had mai set a card that would have saved her on joeys turn one of her harpie ladies would have returned to the field cuz remember harpie's pet dragon was sent 1 turn into the future whilst her 3 harpie ladies were sent 2 turns into the future 3 turns into future and 6 turns into the future had mai survived joey' next attack and the following attack mai would have survived 2 more turns i think givin mai 2 more turns to make a comeback
The one I've been waiting for. Thanks TGS, it was great seeing it covered. I especially enjoy these kind of vids as you really go in depth on each turn
The real reason why Joey refused to use his time wizard in the first duel is because he knew Mai was depressed already and didn't want to hit her with his time wizard luck. What a nice guy!
I also choose to headcannon that he's aware enough to know that her losing to time wizard just like their first duel would only add to her trauma because it was the event that triggered her downward spiral.
@nightshroud9671 well yes and no. The fight with marik was definitely a breaking point but ever since duelist kingdom and Joey's use of time wizard in their duel she has yet to win any duel of significance. She was able to recover during the duelist kingdom by beating some people off panel but she still lost to the player killer and had to be saved by yugi. She lost in the finals to yugi. We don't see her beat anyone in battle city and in the finals she's traumatized by marik's shadow game and it leads her to reflect on her duels because that duel with Joey is a big moment for her so it does still hang heavy over her. So seeing it again is Definitely going to effect her negatively.
To clarify about that Jinzo duel: the Jinzo Jaden dueled against was actually a Duel Spirit that some other students were trying to call into the real world. When Jaden dueled it, Jinzo itself wasn't treated as a deck master, and thus eventually got summoned during the duel and later destroyed; this in turn gave Jadrn the opening he needed to be able to activate trap cards and therefore his copy of Solemn Judgement
@@matthewkuscienko4616I like how this is seemingly here just for the sake of how’s he gonna throw a trap card on the field when Jinzo? Jinzo’s fame surely exceeds the GX filler. Neat that he was also the deck master of Big 5 and a duel spirit later. And in 2 duelist decks besides Joey getting it. They loved Jinzo.
That's why I put Solemn Judgement in the Jaden Character Recipe and I would put Fiber Jar in the Joey Recipe if it weren't Banned everywhere I can make said Recipes! Although, it's the same reason why Winged Dragon of Ra and Necro Gardna find their way in there as well (Ra in the Extra Deck, his presence mostly a nod) and Effect Veiler in Yusei's and Stardust Dragon in both Jack's and Akiza's! The Character Deck Recipes are fun to make!
In the same vein, it's also weird that Joey suddenly has the Fiend Megacyber in his deck. He certainly didn't get it from Espa Roba, nor do we ever see him using that card again, so how the hell did he get it?
Basically: Joey: Alright, I'm about to beat Marik! The Plot: *Are you sure about that?* (ONE SEASON LATER) Joey: Alright I'm about to beat Mai! The Plot: How many times do I have to teach you this lesson Brooklyn man?!
actually he would win the first match and in the second match if he attacked at the first turn her life points will be 2200 so he would also win@@WiiManElite
Personally, I never had a problem with Joey trying to throw the duel in order to get through to Mai. What I did have a problem with this was the fact that Joey was effectively removed from the final act of the Waking the Dragon Arc. I would've loved to see Yugi, Kaiba and Joey team up together to take on Dartz. Especially since Joey is supposed to be the wielder of the Claw of Hermos, one of the three dragons who fought Dartz 10,000 years ago. What I think they should've done was, if the events of the Waking the Dragon arc has to stay the same, where Joey loses to Mai, and then have Mai lose to Rafael, is have Rafael undo the effects of the Orichalos, by pulling out the souls of Joey and Mai and place them back in their respected bodies. After all, Rafael has been shown to do that, as he did return the souls of Weevil Underwood and Rex Raptor. So why couldn't he do the same thing with Joey and Mai? And no, I don't think the answer is that he no long posseses the powers of the Orichalos, as Rafael did accidentally tapped into that power when he discovered that it was Dartz who murdered his family and made him the man he was. Plus, it's not like he couldn't have had the two cards containing Joey and Mai's souls, as Mai would've most likely had Joey's card on her person when she attempted to defeat Rafael, and then Rafael claiming the two cards that contained Joey and Mai's souls after he defeated her.
If I had a nickel for every time Joey couldn't finish a duel because he physically collapsed, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
and if i had a nickel for every time Joey died became he was dq'd in a duel due to physically passing out, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
My favorite was during the Pegasus tournament in the 1st season the battle platforms had chains and flamethrowers lol wtf were they doing with those . And I think what's it was panik or bandit Keith who could control the flames too. For a children's card game lol
The biggest issue was time. The story presents that Mai went a long time suffering from PTSD and was on a massively losing streak that people were mocking her over. However, by all indications Battle City ended only a few days ago. Weevil even asked why Rex was still in the city and not back home, and why would it take Yami so long to go to the museum?
Joey has gone through it in so many duels. Struck by lightning, burned by a god(+more) and this now being the second time he collapsed. He lost his soul too. I swear if he has kids someday he’ll have some nuts stories.
Fun Fact: When Joey, Kaiba and Yugi first used their respective legendary Dragon cards, we get all 3 duel results except win: Joey got No Result, Kaiba got Draw and Yugi got Loss. Was Syrus about to defeat Zane? I will continue to request this until it happens, Sam.
Joey didn't just push Mai out of harm's way, he tore the Oricalcos stone off of her, something we know affects a person's mental state. He was looking out for her to the last.
Which is funny, because one would thought that this would've deactivated the Seal of Orichalcos just like Valon did earlier. Maybe it didn't because the duel was already over?
@@VixYW technically no. it effects the mind yes but it also has its own power within the stone and valen was able to use that power to break the seal. when the stone breaks its showing that the person who had the stone has broken free of its hold. it technically has no connection to when the card gets played unless the holder willingly uses it for such a purpose
@@VixYW I can see why because of how it works but the stone from mai broke but he was still taken by the seal. The card has its own power just like the stones. Now when playing the card while wearing the stone may mean that the overall effects are stronger when used together. Although they aren't needed to be used together. I mean the millennium puzzle broke thru the seal as well. Granted it wasn't quite the same way as when broken by valen but that's also due to him knowing how to do it properly.
The fact Joey was able to duel at all, let alone reasonably well given the circumstances, while DYING and literally having his senses failing him, makes him such a top tier duelist just for that determination alone
It's a shame that yugioh doesn't treat it's females well, then again that's the case in most anime! In fact, I'm making my own comic series and I study females in fiction as a guideline for how to construct my own characters!
@@loreandre He Wouldn't Survive Tribe King Mega Man Star Force's LeoKingdomGX Atomic Blazer Giga Card!110 x 12=1320 Damage!Strongest Giga Card In Star Force 2!The "Burning Lion Of Ra!"Joey Goes Up In SMOKE!Fire Off A Beam Made Of FIYAH,And Burn Baby Burn,Bosses Who Never Learn!BTW,These Joey Vs Mai Duels Are Like The Geo Vs Sonia Boss Fights In Star Force 1 And 2!Auto Tribe King Is Stronger Than Pharaoh Atem!You Usually Draw Your Fave Gigas And Brother Cards(Fave Giga Roulette)First!It's The "Heart of The Battle Cards"!In Star Force 3,Rogue Noise And The MuBarrier Giga Card Are The Seal Of Orichalcos Equivalent:Sever Your Bonds For Diabolic Power!Thoughts?!
You know who's tougher? EVERYONE WHO DUELED ZARC AND DIDNT PASS OUT. Declan, whoever was possessed by the girls (forget their name), and the Professor don't count, as Moon Shadow rescued them.
My main problem with Mai being angry at the gang for "leaving her behind" is that there's no implication that she every reached out to them for help with her trauma and her inferiority complex. Had she done so and they ignored it her anger would be far more justified
When you're in that headspace itll seem like they abandoned or ignored her. A weird example of this could be scaramouche from genshin if you know his story it's pretty good so I dont wanna outright spoil it but basically just thinking someone abandoned you or ignores you or whatever while you're in an angry, depressed, or just anything unhappy mood is really easy
Mai’s main character flaw is her hyper-independence. She’s too proud to ask for help! Which is why it annoyed me she accused Yugi and friends of abandoning her when she never indicated she needed or wanted help.
And not to belittle her, I get the trauma... But little Yugi had his soul literally dissolved, Joey full on died for a bit, and he nearly died from his duel with Yugi while brainwashed. Yami Bakura's doing all this wacky business in the background. They are sleeping on a blimp with a known murderer on it. I can go on. In this universe, I think she got a rather good experience with the shadow games. Plus Tristan's there. The group's standards aren't *that* high. You don't even have to be a duelist lol. EDIT: Okay if you were to consider manga cannon... Oh my god it makes sense. She suffered a penalty game. I won't say the details, because penalty games are the most gruesome Yugioh gets. It almost makes me sick.
In regards to Mai's fear of a card like Fiber Jar in the first duel, I can't really blame her. One monster that comes to mind that would be right at home in Joey's deck and would be EXACTLY what Mai doesn't want to walk into is Cyber Jar. With how many low level monsters Joey has, it would do wonders in his deck. Furthermore, it would be awful for Mai because while she does have level 4 or lower monsters, she would be down two of her copies of Harpie Lady and she runs way fewer monsters in her deck than Joey does. And after seeing a card like Fiber Jar in his deck, I don't think you could argue against the possibility of him having something like Cyber Jar, especially seeing as we know that it has been in the anime's version of the card game since before Battle City.
During the first duel Joey had Monster Reborn in his hand so he could have revived any monster from the grave after Time Wizard's effect goes off and won.
Compensation Mediation is probably one of the most situational anime only cards in the game that it’s kinda laughable and really stretches Joey’s luck which also makes more fun to watch. I mean, it makes for good tension and might be fun to play or collect (if ever released) if you’re a Joey fan but given it’s a 1 in 3 chance of ending the battle phase and your opponent gets to put their chosen cards back in the deck, you might have just play Negate Attack instead. Negate Attack in DM is probably a very rare card which is why only Kaiba has it at this point and Joey remember is quite poor so he likely pulled Compensation Mediation out of a random pack he got using his allowance from his part time job and put it in his deck.
@@Blazecap He seemed like he was trying to break up the fight between those other two guys, but not of his own free will, that ghost monster was strangling him to make him do that
Honestly, IF this card was ever brought to the real world, it would work with a huge buff: remove the completely superfluous chance game and just make it: “When your opponent declares an attack: Your opponent selects 2 Spell or Trap Cards in their GY; you place them on top of their Deck in any order, also end the Battle Phase.”
Brooo im glad someone talked about this card. When I last watched it I remember arguing in the comments that it’s the WORST card in probably all of the anime and it’s an example of the writers giving Joey waaay too many luck cards to raise tension A 1 outta 3 chance of negating just one attack?? And no matter the outcome the opponent gets ANY 2 cards back?? That’s crazy card advantage Easily the worst card the anime has ever made by far. They made Joey’s deck too luck based to fit his luck based theme
The Waking the Dragons arc was awesome. And, because I’m a weirdo hopeless romantic like that, I feel like Mai started to realize she had feelings for Joey when she cancelled her attack, literally rushing over to catch him mid collapse.
The mystery card Mai drew on her last turn in the first duel could’ve been the Equip Spell, Rose Whip. Since there was not a Harpy Lady on field to equip it to, this was basically a dead draw.
@@PlutoTheSecond The only wrong answers are cards that could’ve helped out Mai on her last turn. Like the Grave Arm spell card. She could’ve had used that to destroy Fiend Megacyber and then attacked Joey directly with her Pet Dragon and Dartz would’ve gotten Joey’s soul almost twenty episodes earlier. Plus with just 200 life points left it would’ve pointless for Joey to use Skull Dice on a direct attack.
TGS, since you’ve looked at duels for Yugi & Joey from the Waking The Dragons Arc, you should also look at Kaiba’s duels with Alister. The first one ended in a draw, so you could see if either could’ve won that one. Kaiba won their second meeting on the plane and you could look at if Alister could’ve won that one. They’re both really interesting duels and I think you could have fun breaking them down.
9:45 If I did the math right in my head, then Joey could have: 1) Special summon Fiend Mega Cyber first with its effect 2) Normal summon Time Wizard and gamble with its effect to clear Mai’s Monsters 3) Activate Monster Reborn to bring back a Harpie Lady 4) Attack directly with all 3 monster to deal exactly 4000 damage and Joey wins
Do you people even watch the anime? Winning would've done nothing but take Mais soul. He had to draw out the Duel in the hopes of convincing her to stop.
Mais arc in this season is absolutely heartbreaking. It's a really powerful representation of severe PTSD and how people can act out, in her case overcompensation for being so vulnerable and seeking to trying to prevent this from happening by pushing to be stronger, even to the point of completely rejecting the people who are truly there for her, because all that will do is leave her vulnerable again. Both Joey and Valon knew this, and wanted to help her in their own ways, Valon looking to protect her without respecting her desire to be independent, and Joey standing to remind her of who she is, and that it is ok to feel how she is feeling and to not let her trauma become her, nor allow her to be taken advantage of by Dartz. This is actually the kind of subtext that seems to get missed a lot of the time regarding yugioh and especially in season 4, and I genuinely love the show for it.
another interesting detail with the phoenix formation that shows up in this arc. when mai lost to marik, it was to ra... RA... who posesses a phoenix mode effect to destroy monsters. Mai's phoenix formation is a weaponization of her trauma from marik against her opponent. However... Joey... has survived Ra before... so it makes sense that mai never quite manages to finish off joey with phoenix formation. also in that final duel, its kind of symbolic that joey survives the final phoenix formation attack by giving the power of his blue flame swordsman to her.
Mai was so underrated with the Seal. She was a really really good duelist, and the extra abilities she gained was exactly her harpies needed at the time. Joey in this arc on the otherhand proved to every Kaiba fan that he was a top 5 duelist. Still never top 3 but he really grew
even kaiba's insult about him being a third rate duelist with a 4th rate deck would imply he's highly skilled as third rate is still pretty high and to be able to top or win any sort of tournament holding any prestige to it whatsoever using a 4th rate deck, which if we assume joey's deck as a prime example of, would place it as like a rogue or casual deck would further attest to his skill, so all that taken into account he managed to be a pro duelist without even remotely trying
@@lssjvegeta7103 "even kaiba's insult about him being a third rate duelist with a 4th rate deck" He never says that in the anime. That line was only said by him in Duel Links. In the dub, Kaiba just calls Joey a third-rate duelist.
It’s cool that Joey used all three of his ace monsters in the rematch duel: Flame Swordsman, Red-Eyes and Gilford the Lightning. Don’t see that a lot where a main character gets out all of their aces in a single duel.
@@kaayjaay8while it is true he gets them out often, especially with BEUD as his boss monster, he often only needs 1 to get wins, it's rare for him to need all of them. Examples of kaiba only needing 1 blues eyes would be when he fought ishizu, Leichter and his second duel with Allister. He also only got 1 out when he dueled noah Tho it is true that they are his strongest main deck monsters and his main aces, along with being stronger then all of Joey's aces (minus Gilford the lightnings effect, but thats more of a boss monster for Joey rather then an ace) and most of yugis big monsters (it ties Black luster Soldier, loses to Buster Blader due to its effect, and is flat out weaker then Valkierion)
Worth noting he obviously added new ones to his deck after Battle City, Fiend mega Cyber was not in it then and neither was Cyber Tech aligator just to name two examples.
I could only think of a ring of destruction, but that’s a Kaiba card. So it would have to be a card that makes Joey give up life points to then take Mai’s at the same time……..meteor of destruction would have been a crazy one, but definitely not that
I could imagine a Tremendous Fire. That spell deals 1000 damage to the opponent and also hits the user for 500. That might have been one of the rare spell cards Odion gave Joey while Joey was under Marik's mind control.
If I remember correctly it was her who collected Pegasus' soul, off-screen, so technically wasn't she one of the more successful seal users with two souls?
Granted, this wasn’t the Season 1 Pegasus that Yugi dueled against. He was monumentally more powerful and dangerous in S1, and was a shadow of his former self in S4. But at least he survived! If you follow the “canon,” Pegasus did not survive his duel with Yami Bakura in S1 after losing to Yugi.
@@guitarbass22i'm happy pegasus is a life in the anime we see him in gx and chilling in the walking of dragon's arc so i'm happy he didn't die i like the anime more then the manga
Idk why, but the way he did the nonchalant spongebob imagination rainbow arch when he said, "picture this" makes us so happy. I love how expressive you are with your videos. Also, love these duel breakdowns! So exciting ^_^
Joey's goal was to Save Mai, not defeat her. Even if he won the duel, then when Dartz was defeated Mai would've sought out another dangerous power to defeat Joey. By sacrificing himself Joey should Mai that he was always going to be there for her, so as far as I'm concern Joey is a winner in the end. Joey was able to prevent Mai from becoming a dangerous version of Rex & Weevil.
29:29 (Justine Courtney voice (i ran out of prosecutors)): Objection! Sheep Tokens can't be used for tribute summons, even with Joey summoning Paladin of Dark Dragon, he needs 2 more monsters for the destruction effect. If he wasn't going for the destruction effect, he would have to forgo using Red-eyes & Hermos together since Gilford the Lightning requires 2 tributes (he needs his Ritual monster to bring Red-eyes out, or use said ritual monster & blue flame swordsman as sacrifices for Gilford. Joey doesn't have monster reborn in his hand to do everything)
I think the last card Mai drew was the Field Spell Harpies' Hunting Ground, which would have been useless on her last turn considering all the Harpie Ladies were still banished. Or, ya know, maybe it was Hysteric Party which is insane, but needs a discard to work.
i believe joey could have beat mai if he wanted to but that wasnt his goal it was to rescue her from the darkness and get her back joey isnt top 4 for a reason
Little related to the duel, what's interesting when Valon's & Joey's soul gets taken away, they're the only ones shown they've accept the imprisonment in the carvings instead of reaching out their hands for help.
@@woobgamer5210 I'm not talking about the Berserker Soul scene. It's the display on the stone carving when his soul was trapped like all but two people.
I always thought Mai was a really cool character when I was a kid and I hate how shafted she was. To this day, the Harpie archetype is still one of my all time favorites!
9:11 And right here, Atems lack of understanding others in seeing the benefits of losing. Only seeing pride in winning at all cost is more important regardless of the reason why.
That isn’t foreshadowing. That’s character regression since he saw the benefit of losing back in Battle City when he refused to attack Normal Bakura for game and held back against Yami Marik because he didn’t want to kill Normal Marik.
Ignoring my desires to see a marathon video focusing on the Big Five Duels (AKA, Yugi vs. Gansley, Teá vs. Crump, Joey vs. Johnson, Serenity, Duke and Tristen vs. Nesbitt, Kaiba vs. Lecter, and finally Yugi and Joey vs. the Big Five,) I would also like to see the Kaiba vs. Allister duels in the near future.
Or how about with Tremolo vs Yudias? Tremolo only agreed to the duel in that he knew an alien flying fish informant - it's complicated - was in the area, and would seek to reconvene with the good guys. On a certain turn, Tremolo spots the fish, and then, makes a flashy move of boomeranging _two_ cards at once when he needed to do some GY cycling, and in the end, it's revealed that he _captured the fish between those two cards and stuffed it in his GY without anyone noticing beyond the over-the-top throw._ Now THAT has to be the cleanest throw ever.
Tbf on Mai overthinking or being too safe..this did happen before in Duelist Kingdom when she dueled Yugi. She choose not to attack him for game because she was too cautious of his facedown when it was revealed that had she did attack she could’ve won..so it makes sense for it to happen again
Joey was at his prime during this filler (even if he held back against Mai and Rex). The Joey respect during this arc is 💯 Sadly, he was butchered again during his fight with Pink Hitler!
Peak Joey here and even his losses are a result of him not actually trying to win and/or him not being in peak form through no fault of his own. Also while fighting an opponent with busted cards no one else had access to or even knows exists.
I mean to be fair Joey only lost to Sigfried because he had to relay on something as bricky as "Contingency of Madness" because if he would have called the card correctly would he have won next turn. Never mind that if he had the money to afort proper Negate Attack would he also just have won. And mind you even Kaiba only won with just 50LP remaining despite knowing far more about Sigfrieds deck thanks to his duel with Joey ahead of time and getting some amazing draws of his "Card of Demise" in his last turn.
@@roncerjani9063 They properly should (or Tea should at least trait her Waboku with Joey) but I guess providing Joey with decent cards would make him less of an under dog so we can't have that.
@@rynobehnke8289 Nah he had some. Don't forget, he used Trap Hole, Fiber Jar, Graverobber (anime version is fantastic), Fiend Megacyber, Giant Trunade. I am pretty sure that they can get away with giving him Negate Attack or Waboku without messing with his underdog image.
I think the neko mane king play was due to the fact that Joey wasn't trying to win, only stall out the duel for a solution to present itself( and it actually does), but also because Joey knows Mai, and how she's unsure of her own abilities, and would go for the safest play. That way he knew that she wouldn't just attack for game, as he already used fiber Jar.
Mai was built up to be this great duelist but almost all of it is offscreen..the little that we see her legitimately win or even do well without some dark magic assistance/magic friendship assistance is agaisnt Tea but she faked a loss..also..Tea barely knew what she was doing and still almost won..relaitsiclaly..Tea is kind of interesting. Despite being downplayed so often, she pretty much comes out on top of the few times we see her duel. The reality is that she is pretty darn good..I would love to see a version of Tea more like Joey. One who was genuinly emotionally interested in developing herself as a duelist over just being mildly invested indirectly through her friendships with dueling fanatics. I feel she would have the potential to easily surpass Joey and Yugi withing a much shorter time than Joey was building up to. She gebuinly seems much more naturally skilled and capeable, even at a disadvantage. Mai is not the worst, but it does seem she had hit a wall by Duelist City. Tea was already nearly beating her on what is one if her earlier duels. Not her first but clearly before she even fully undersrnads all the basic rules.
The absolute madlad Joey is to achieve what he wanted even after going through 2 rough duels and at the cost of his own soul. His devotion to his friends is truly his greatest strength. P.S. TGS, if it's okay to credit the background music for your videos, it'd be very much appreciated. The music is pretty cool, but it's hard to find them without knowing their names.
8:23 (Klavier Gavin voice): Objection! Mai destroyed 1 sheep token, and Joey sacrificed 1 for panther warrior's effect (leaving 2 sheep tokens left), if Joey wants to attack with Panther Warrior in your scenario (where she attacks 2 tokens & ends her turn), he'd have to sacrifice Megacyber, Mai wouldn't have been able to win with Phoenix Formation in that case
How Fiber Jar is described in the dub (definitely from a dub error) is even more crazy. From what I remember it’s described that it forces both players to shuffle the cards on their fields and graveyards into one pile and both players draw five from the pile
@@JaimeD. He had the means to tho, he just chose not to for some reason until it was too late. Watch the episode this guy did on Bakura VS Yugi in the battle city finals. Literally no reason for him to have lost that duel if he were even half as competent as Mai.
@@RazorFrost680 I was referring to JaimeD's last statement. They didn't specify it only applied to season 5, it sounded like a blanket statement. Plus, I initially read the "Yugi and Atem" part as meaning he didn't have a chance against yugi and Atem working together, so I was pointing out a canon example where he most certainly did have a chance (he just blew it big time, despite the winning play being about as basic as it gets).
Weird that Joey doesn't know the effects of the Hermos fusion he makes in his first duel with it but, he knows every time after despite it being entirely different each time. Even more so for the fact that Atem and Kaiba knew every time what their legendary dragon fusion effects would be.
Probably because the anime's writers hate Mai and really wanted to rub it in that she was gonna lose to someone who doesn't know what his own cards do to justify her little quest for more power, I guess...
@@emilstoqanov3270 To be fair... I never watched that arc. I was very tired of fillers at that point and just moved on to the last one. That's unfortunate to hear.
There was a period where they would throw "ending the battle phase" into effects of cards a lot. I think it was an experiment toward a detrimental, non-cost effect and shorter text. Since ending the battle phase typically came last it was just an additional affect of a card rather than a cost so there were unique advantages/disadvantages to balancing effects like that. It also restircted battle but didn't nessisarily restrict all battle in a turn and was shorter to put in a card than "your monsters can't declare an attack this turn.". It was a period between really early and more structured Yugioh where they were refining some game mechanics.
Joey couldn't have Summoned Gilford back during the turn he makes REBDS, as the warrior returning alive returns the card to the hand, and does not summon it. He normal Summoned blue flame swordsman and then ritual Summoned knight of dark dragon
He might do a video of one of those duels sometime soon. I think he should do a video on that Gansley vs Yugi duel. If not what about Leichter vs Kaiba or the big 5 vs Atem and Joey.
I'm sure everyone remembers the order of all the Big 5 duels, but just in case you don't: -Yugi/Atem (Kuriboh) vs Gansley (Deepsea Warrior) -Tea (Dark Magician Girl) vs Crump (Nightmare Penguin) -Joey (Flame Swordsman) vs Johnson (Judge Man) -Duke (Strike Ninja), Tristan (Super Robo-yaru), Serenity (Goddess with the Third Eye) vs Nesbitt (Robotic Knight) -Kaiba (Lord of Dragon) vs Leichter (Jinzo) -Atem (Dark Magician), Joey (Flame Swordsman) vs "Tristan" (All Deck Masters)
@@TotalEvo7 out of those, I want to see that Joey vs Johnson(Judge Man) duel being covered and see how different that duel would have been if Johnson wasn’t constantly cheating until Noah showed up to interrupt the duel to tell Joey that Johnson was indeed cheating. Now that I’m thinking about it I would also like to see tgs cover that Big 5(as Tristen) Atem and Joey.
@@RT88414 Noah didn’t want Johnson to cheat, and yet he cheats with using a brainwashed Mokuba as a meat shield. Noah is a hypocrite and DESERVED to lose, his wealth, his status, EVERYTHING. He should be begging for scraps.
I will never understand ehy we didn't get a "this card can't be used in a duel" Cards of Sanctity where its effect is: You cannot set spell or traps or summon monsters before you activate this card this turn. Each player draws until they have six cards in hand. You cannot activate this card if your opponent has four or more cards in hand.
I was completely shocked that Mai joined darts and his gang, I mean it’s was unjustifiable, she didn’t even call them for help, she just assumed they forgot about her!! But it was a pretty close duel
Hot Take! I always thought Serenity could have joined Dartz instead of Joey needing to rescue Mai AGAIN! The virtual world arc was all about Kaiba Family Drama. The orichalcos arc could have focused on Wheeler Family Drama.
Awesome video as always Sam!!!! I know you're probably not going to see this, but I just wanted to say that even though I don't play Yu-gi-oh anymore, I still keep watching your videos all this time. Not only are they fun, sometimes funny, but almost always entertaining and relaxing. Never saw you cursing, throwing a tantrum or being just overall a shill for anything, especially not getting yourself involved with controversies or drama. Recently I have been going through some major stressful days with family's health and my own, but things seem to be getting better and your content really helped me get through it. Keep doing what you do buddy, you deserve every single sub and view that you have. ✌
Man, coming back to this vid kinda illustrates how absolutely GOATed Joey became after Battle City (before the KC Grand Prix knocked him back down). Like, he gets two dedicated rivals from Doma and could’ve beaten one of them (who is admittedly Mai) on two separate occasions without his dragon if he really felt like it and beat the other guy on his first try (contrast Yugi losing to Rafael despite having his dragon AND The Seal of Oricalcos or Kaiba needing his dragon to force a tie on the first go).
“Her inferiority complex” damn drag her. She’s my favorite character of the entire series but that’s really the perfect words to describe where they took her character.
He's barely gone as far as Zexal; I imagine the latter series won't be included for a while. EDIT: okay, he DID also do an Arc-V duel, but my point stands.
While Mai's experience against Marik was traumatizing no matter how you slice it, I kind of wish the anime used the manga version of her duel with Marik instead. It would justify her anger and fear of losing MUCH more than simply feeling "Left behind", since she literally had several near death experiences both in the duel and in her resulting Penalty Game.
I am rewatching Yugioh 5DS, and in duel beetween team 5DS and team Unicorn, Jack made so big misplay on his first turn, that he lost, and 5DS won, only thanks to plot armor.
@@DarthFhenix55 I mean, come on, that plot armor in the final turn against Team Unicorn is simply ridiculous, even by YGO standards. The moment Jean realized Yusei was about to deck out, he should've immediately passed turn without doing anything which would force Yusei to lose UNLESS he had a card that allowed him to skip his own Draw Phase -- which wasn't the case.
Damn my brain just realised that Yugi is saying to Joey that surrendering a duel is basically a dishonourable way to lose a duel. That was accidently savage on Mia, considering she did that V Yugi at dualist Kingdom
Fiber Jar doesn't actually destroy cards it only returns them to the deck. According to anime rules, The Seal of Orichalcos "Cannot be destroyed by Card Effects" since Fiber Jar doesn't destroy only return, it would work on the Seal.
Actually, he couldn't have used Gilford because Warrior Returning Alive only brings the Monster back to his hand not the field, so he would need Tributes which he didn't have. Blue Flaming Swordsman was the correct move. Also, if Joey did attack with Blue Flaming Swordsman on the first turn, sure he would have done some damage to Mai by getting out Flaming Swordsman, but then this would have snowballed into him losing the Duel. This would happen one of two ways, depending on whether or not he chose to set Scapegoat on his first turn after Flaming Swordsman attacks or if he waited until the next turn like he did in the actual Duel. In the scenario where he sets Scapegoats on Mai's next turn she use Monster Reborn to bring back her first Harpie equips it with Aero Nail and Summons the second Harpie, the first destroys Flaming Swordsman and the second destroys a Token. Next turn Joey can't summon his Aliegator now so he can just summon Swordsman of Landstar in defense. On Mai's next turn she summons her third Cyber Harpie and activates the Seal, then attacks and destroys Landstar and two Tokens. Joey's next turn comes and he bricks, he can't do anything. So on Mai's next turn, she destroys the last Token then uses her two remaining Harpies to attack for game. Now in the scenario where he waits to set Scapegoat, Mai does her Monster Reborn, Aero Nail, and second Cyber Harpie play again, destroying Flaming Swordsman and attacking directly, dropping Joey to 1900 LP, and Mai sets Tri-Mirror. On Jeoy's next turn he again can't summon his Aligator, so insetad summons Landstar in defense and sets Scapegoat. Mai summons her third Haprie and plays the Seal and attacks, she destroys Landstar and two Tokens and gets four more Harpies thanks to Tri-Mirror. Joey's next turn he sets his two Traps. Mai tries to attack next turn but Joey tributes his last two Tokens to do his Double Magic Arm Shield and Vow of Tribe combo. Then on Joey's next turn he Tributes the two Cyber Harpies to get out Gilford(since it only requires two Tributes, but if you want to active it's monster destruction effect you need three) and uses it to attack and destroy another Cyber Harpie dropping Mai to 1700 LP. However, on Mai's next turn she uses Card of Sancity to get Sparrow Formation and with four Cyber Harpie's activates it to destroy Gilford and deal 2800 damage wiping Joey out and winning the Duel.
The fact that Joey has stood up to some of the heaviest hitters in the series like Mai, Kaiba, Marik etc... with, let's be honestly, a pretty damn awful deck, is just insanely impressive. Edit: To all the comments replying how Mai is a jobber, yeah definitely in the series but she has a history of being an ace duelist and winning lots of competitions. Just because it's not shown in the show doesn't mean she didn't have skill. Just terrible writing 😅
@@EnclosedPoolArea Never seen in the show but she's won multiple tournaments and is one of the best duelists around (obv not compared to Yugi/Kaiba etc), but they really do just make her a punching bag in the episodes lol
19:50 most of the Time Skull Dice Always Lands on a 2 I'm guessing the Screen Writers didn't know how to Divide the Attack Stat Except for Dividing in Half no Idea why....
Mai is one of the OGs and therefore is immensely powerful. Also plotwise Joey was supposed to not be good yet whereas Mai was already a beautiful cool skilled duelist. It may have been close but Mai always had it.
Yeah, I think there's no doubt that Mai has a crap-ton more wins off-screen than Joey ever did, but the real issue is that the writers should have given her more time to shine to make it feel more believable to us the viewers. You know, using the "show, don't tell" rule.
@@LonesomeDevil I agree. If you take away the win against Joey from Waking the Dragons arc, Mai won a grand total of *drumroll* one legitimate duel on-screen.
@@christopherbouska6779That was amazing. Great arc for Cronos. Went from a borderline psycopathic and prideful guy to a great teacher who inspires his students to grow.
I'm curious about something. If Joey's Fiber Jar's effect activated, since its effect forces a player action, would that have forced Mai to shuffle The Seal back into her Deck?
It's kind of hard to say because the anime text for the doesn't have any clear description or problem solving card text in regards to what the card actually does. In the anime we only know it properly because the people using it state which effects are applied when they use them and as far as the Seal goes we only know that it can't be destroyed by card effects (Yugi used Dust Tornado on it once and in a later duel didn't use Breaker to destroy the Seal of Orichalos) but we don't know if it's unaffected by all other card effects.
If anything you gotta admit that it's awesome she went back to using Harpies in Waking the Dragons as oppose to Amazoness. Also I'm guessing the card Mai drew at the end of the first duel was Harpie Girl
Personally I loved that they included Elegant Egotist and Harpie Lady Sisters. It was such a good callback to their first encounter in Duelist Kingdom and we as viewers can appreciate that despite everything Joey and Mai have come a long way, and w the way things ended made it all the more bitter sweet
He didn't get Gilford back because he activated the warrior returning alive which adds the monster to his hand so he would have been unable too Summon Gilford, if it was monster Reborn it was a misplay but joey made the right move here
MISPLAY! Joey could have won if he didn't use Claw of Hermos. Summon Paladin of Dark Dragon (1900 attack), use Blue Flame Swordsman ability to boost Paladins attack by 1800 (Blue Flame boosted Harpie's attack while its a winged beast, so I'm sure it would work on Paladin who is a dragon). Use Paladin and attack (3700) for game.
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Ignore 29:17 I went crazy in the brain and swapped Warrior Returning Alive with Monster Reborn in my head.
Might need to pin this; LOTS of people not seeing it.
30:50 you also went mad saying about Mai "ends HIS turn" instead of ends her turn lol.
That was funny 😂. Great video as always
had mai set a card that would have saved her on joeys turn one of her harpie ladies would have returned to the field cuz remember harpie's pet dragon was sent 1 turn into the future whilst her 3 harpie ladies were sent 2 turns into the future 3 turns into future and 6 turns into the future had mai survived joey' next attack and the following attack mai would have survived 2 more turns i think givin mai 2 more turns to make a comeback
The one I've been waiting for. Thanks TGS, it was great seeing it covered. I especially enjoy these kind of vids as you really go in depth on each turn
The real reason why Joey refused to use his time wizard in the first duel is because he knew Mai was depressed already and didn't want to hit her with his time wizard luck. What a nice guy!
I also choose to headcannon that he's aware enough to know that her losing to time wizard just like their first duel would only add to her trauma because it was the event that triggered her downward spiral.
@@urahara64360 I'm not really headcanoning this, personaly, I said it purely as a joke.
Also, it's "headcanon" with one "n".
I found a new meaning for head canon or cannon,
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@@urahara64360 Isn't her duel with Marik that triggered her downward spiral?
@nightshroud9671 well yes and no. The fight with marik was definitely a breaking point but ever since duelist kingdom and Joey's use of time wizard in their duel she has yet to win any duel of significance. She was able to recover during the duelist kingdom by beating some people off panel but she still lost to the player killer and had to be saved by yugi. She lost in the finals to yugi. We don't see her beat anyone in battle city and in the finals she's traumatized by marik's shadow game and it leads her to reflect on her duels because that duel with Joey is a big moment for her so it does still hang heavy over her. So seeing it again is Definitely going to effect her negatively.
If you think Joey having Fiber Jar is crazy, Jaden plays Solemn Judgment in his duel against Jinzo.
To clarify about that Jinzo duel: the Jinzo Jaden dueled against was actually a Duel Spirit that some other students were trying to call into the real world. When Jaden dueled it, Jinzo itself wasn't treated as a deck master, and thus eventually got summoned during the duel and later destroyed; this in turn gave Jadrn the opening he needed to be able to activate trap cards and therefore his copy of Solemn Judgement
@@matthewkuscienko4616I like how this is seemingly here just for the sake of how’s he gonna throw a trap card on the field when Jinzo? Jinzo’s fame surely exceeds the GX filler. Neat that he was also the deck master of Big 5 and a duel spirit later. And in 2 duelist decks besides Joey getting it. They loved Jinzo.
That's why I put Solemn Judgement in the Jaden Character Recipe and I would put Fiber Jar in the Joey Recipe if it weren't Banned everywhere I can make said Recipes! Although, it's the same reason why Winged Dragon of Ra and Necro Gardna find their way in there as well (Ra in the Extra Deck, his presence mostly a nod) and Effect Veiler in Yusei's and Stardust Dragon in both Jack's and Akiza's! The Character Deck Recipes are fun to make!
In the same vein, it's also weird that Joey suddenly has the Fiend Megacyber in his deck. He certainly didn't get it from Espa Roba, nor do we ever see him using that card again, so how the hell did he get it?
Well, with Judgment, he negated Call of the Haunted, so Jinzo wasn't on the field yet.
Basically:
Joey: Alright, I'm about to beat Marik!
The Plot: *Are you sure about that?*
(ONE SEASON LATER)
Joey: Alright I'm about to beat Mai!
The Plot: How many times do I have to teach you this lesson Brooklyn man?!
Joey: I love 4 kids
No, you can't beat his Brooklyn Rage
actually he would win the first match
and in the second match if he attacked at the first turn
her life points will be 2200
so he would also win@@WiiManElite
Personally, I never had a problem with Joey trying to throw the duel in order to get through to Mai. What I did have a problem with this was the fact that Joey was effectively removed from the final act of the Waking the Dragon Arc.
I would've loved to see Yugi, Kaiba and Joey team up together to take on Dartz. Especially since Joey is supposed to be the wielder of the Claw of Hermos, one of the three dragons who fought Dartz 10,000 years ago.
What I think they should've done was, if the events of the Waking the Dragon arc has to stay the same, where Joey loses to Mai, and then have Mai lose to Rafael, is have Rafael undo the effects of the Orichalos, by pulling out the souls of Joey and Mai and place them back in their respected bodies. After all, Rafael has been shown to do that, as he did return the souls of Weevil Underwood and Rex Raptor. So why couldn't he do the same thing with Joey and Mai? And no, I don't think the answer is that he no long posseses the powers of the Orichalos, as Rafael did accidentally tapped into that power when he discovered that it was Dartz who murdered his family and made him the man he was. Plus, it's not like he couldn't have had the two cards containing Joey and Mai's souls, as Mai would've most likely had Joey's card on her person when she attempted to defeat Rafael, and then Rafael claiming the two cards that contained Joey and Mai's souls after he defeated her.
True, he loved mai
On the plus side Joey did have probably the best duels I this arc
Joey automatically wins for his iconic creepy chin
His Scary
True
@@andrewshearsby8125
Russian Roulette is not the same without a Gun but Since we’re Dubbed by 4kids we must make do without one
He’s really scary 😅
What about Mai's dramatic hair flip?
If I had a nickel for every time Joey couldn't finish a duel because he physically collapsed, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
and if i had a nickel for every time Joey died became he was dq'd in a duel due to physically passing out, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
And the funny part is, the first time he would have won that duel, and this second time he was going go lose.
My favorite was during the Pegasus tournament in the 1st season the battle platforms had chains and flamethrowers lol wtf were they doing with those . And I think what's it was panik or bandit Keith who could control the flames too. For a children's card game lol
Hey at least he got to keep his protagonist powers to make his Red Eyes Black Dragon Swords
The biggest issue was time. The story presents that Mai went a long time suffering from PTSD and was on a massively losing streak that people were mocking her over. However, by all indications Battle City ended only a few days ago. Weevil even asked why Rex was still in the city and not back home, and why would it take Yami so long to go to the museum?
The reason why Joey didn’t get back Guildford is because “The Warrior Returning Alive” returns a warrior to the hand and not the field.
Yep, it’s not monster reborn. And he couldn’t have had enough tributes to summon lightning
He added a pin comment to address this mistake. :)
@@gamerookie09 yes, but I beat him to it.
Bro he actually use monster reborn he could bring back gilfor he just didn’t want to win
@@michaellopez7693 that was not the point.
Joey has gone through it in so many duels.
Struck by lightning, burned by a god(+more) and this now being the second time he collapsed. He lost his soul too.
I swear if he has kids someday he’ll have some nuts stories.
even possessed and almost drowned
Fun Fact: When Joey, Kaiba and Yugi first used their respective legendary Dragon cards, we get all 3 duel results except win: Joey got No Result, Kaiba got Draw and Yugi got Loss.
Was Syrus about to defeat Zane? I will continue to request this until it happens, Sam.
Goes to show that Dartz is the most powerful villain and duelist in the DM era!
yugi didn't get his dragon during a duel though
Are you talking about the duel they had in GX 2 season? Zane basically won that due to the plot.
@@rogerwinters4958Technically, Yes, Yugi first used Timaeus against that Storm but I meant used in a duel which is when they’re supposed to be used.
Syrus doesn't deserve to win
Syrus can not win unless his opponents misplay or when Syrus breaks the rules. Dimitri duel is an example
Joey didn't just push Mai out of harm's way, he tore the Oricalcos stone off of her, something we know affects a person's mental state.
He was looking out for her to the last.
Very good catch, I thought that was just a random glisteny piece of the orichalcos seal he was under, but it really was the stone he tore off Mai
Which is funny, because one would thought that this would've deactivated the Seal of Orichalcos just like Valon did earlier. Maybe it didn't because the duel was already over?
@@VixYW technically no. it effects the mind yes but it also has its own power within the stone and valen was able to use that power to break the seal. when the stone breaks its showing that the person who had the stone has broken free of its hold. it technically has no connection to when the card gets played unless the holder willingly uses it for such a purpose
@@crimsonfury-yj1zi Funny. I always had the impression that the card wouldn't work at all without the stone.
@@VixYW I can see why because of how it works but the stone from mai broke but he was still taken by the seal. The card has its own power just like the stones. Now when playing the card while wearing the stone may mean that the overall effects are stronger when used together. Although they aren't needed to be used together. I mean the millennium puzzle broke thru the seal as well. Granted it wasn't quite the same way as when broken by valen but that's also due to him knowing how to do it properly.
The fact Joey was able to duel at all, let alone reasonably well given the circumstances, while DYING and literally having his senses failing him, makes him such a top tier duelist just for that determination alone
I swear after fighting Yami Marik in battle city and now against Mai this man can duel while he’s going to die.
(Not to mention getting struck by a fake Ra in his duel with Odion)
I'm convinced Joey went out dueling. Somehow. Don't know how, but he did.
Fun Fact: Mai is the only duelist in Waking the Dragons to win a duel using The Seal Of Orichalcos.
It's a shame that yugioh doesn't treat it's females well, then again that's the case in most anime!
In fact, I'm making my own comic series and I study females in fiction as a guideline for how to construct my own characters!
@@tarikkash4282I heard that the main girl from Sevens was treated well at least
On screen*
But she lose emotionally so the message about that everyone that use that card lose is still there
Only because Joey was holding back in both duels and also if Valon hadn't interfered Joey would've beat Mai the first time.
Joey really is a tough guy.
I mean, 2 duels in a row is the most gruelsome thing in the Yugi-verse.
When one of them involves getting into an actual fistfight with a guy wearing a robot supersuit...
He freaking is, almost surviving an attack from a God card in a shadow game.
@@loreandre He Wouldn't Survive Tribe King Mega Man Star Force's LeoKingdomGX Atomic Blazer Giga Card!110 x 12=1320 Damage!Strongest Giga Card In Star Force 2!The "Burning Lion Of Ra!"Joey Goes Up In SMOKE!Fire Off A Beam Made Of FIYAH,And Burn Baby Burn,Bosses Who Never Learn!BTW,These Joey Vs Mai Duels Are Like The Geo Vs Sonia Boss Fights In Star Force 1 And 2!Auto Tribe King Is Stronger Than Pharaoh Atem!You Usually Draw Your Fave Gigas And Brother Cards(Fave Giga Roulette)First!It's The "Heart of The Battle Cards"!In Star Force 3,Rogue Noise And The MuBarrier Giga Card Are The Seal Of Orichalcos Equivalent:Sever Your Bonds For Diabolic Power!Thoughts?!
@@chimuoma390 bro why are you bringing up mega man star force in a yugioh discussion?
You know who's tougher? EVERYONE WHO DUELED ZARC AND DIDNT PASS OUT. Declan, whoever was possessed by the girls (forget their name), and the Professor don't count, as Moon Shadow rescued them.
My main problem with Mai being angry at the gang for "leaving her behind" is that there's no implication that she every reached out to them for help with her trauma and her inferiority complex. Had she done so and they ignored it her anger would be far more justified
When you're in that headspace itll seem like they abandoned or ignored her. A weird example of this could be scaramouche from genshin if you know his story it's pretty good so I dont wanna outright spoil it but basically just thinking someone abandoned you or ignores you or whatever while you're in an angry, depressed, or just anything unhappy mood is really easy
Mai’s main character flaw is her hyper-independence. She’s too proud to ask for help! Which is why it annoyed me she accused Yugi and friends of abandoning her when she never indicated she needed or wanted help.
@@ryhi5I think that’s the idea and hearing how she’s talked down in the backstory probably helped fuel that flame that darts used to manipulate her
And not to belittle her, I get the trauma... But little Yugi had his soul literally dissolved, Joey full on died for a bit, and he nearly died from his duel with Yugi while brainwashed. Yami Bakura's doing all this wacky business in the background. They are sleeping on a blimp with a known murderer on it. I can go on. In this universe, I think she got a rather good experience with the shadow games.
Plus Tristan's there. The group's standards aren't *that* high. You don't even have to be a duelist lol.
EDIT: Okay if you were to consider manga cannon... Oh my god it makes sense. She suffered a penalty game. I won't say the details, because penalty games are the most gruesome Yugioh gets. It almost makes me sick.
@@XXMatt0040XX Oh no! Belittle Mai all you want! She deserves it!
In regards to Mai's fear of a card like Fiber Jar in the first duel, I can't really blame her. One monster that comes to mind that would be right at home in Joey's deck and would be EXACTLY what Mai doesn't want to walk into is Cyber Jar. With how many low level monsters Joey has, it would do wonders in his deck. Furthermore, it would be awful for Mai because while she does have level 4 or lower monsters, she would be down two of her copies of Harpie Lady and she runs way fewer monsters in her deck than Joey does. And after seeing a card like Fiber Jar in his deck, I don't think you could argue against the possibility of him having something like Cyber Jar, especially seeing as we know that it has been in the anime's version of the card game since before Battle City.
Holy shit that shot of Joey setting a spell/trap and missing the slot is so clever
Where
24:54@@hectorperez2896
@@hectorperez2896 24:54
During the first duel Joey had Monster Reborn in his hand so he could have revived any monster from the grave after Time Wizard's effect goes off and won.
True but he didn't want to win. He wanted to force a draw.
@@EnclosedPoolArea I know Joey was trying to force a draw, all I was saying was that he COULD have won if he wanted to.
Hammer banishes
@@ThatOneWeirdFlex I never stated from Mai's GY did I?
Compensation Mediation is probably one of the most situational anime only cards in the game that it’s kinda laughable and really stretches Joey’s luck which also makes more fun to watch. I mean, it makes for good tension and might be fun to play or collect (if ever released) if you’re a Joey fan but given it’s a 1 in 3 chance of ending the battle phase and your opponent gets to put their chosen cards back in the deck, you might have just play Negate Attack instead. Negate Attack in DM is probably a very rare card which is why only Kaiba has it at this point and Joey remember is quite poor so he likely pulled Compensation Mediation out of a random pack he got using his allowance from his part time job and put it in his deck.
What’s with the artwork on it too? Why is the ghost monster chocking out the middle guy?
@@TheKpa11I think the idea is that the ghost brings card the two cards from the GY and makes the guy pick. If he chooses wrong he “dies”
@@Blazecap
He seemed like he was trying to break up the fight between those other two guys, but not of his own free will, that ghost monster was strangling him to make him do that
Honestly, IF this card was ever brought to the real world, it would work with a huge buff: remove the completely superfluous chance game and just make it: “When your opponent declares an attack: Your opponent selects 2 Spell or Trap Cards in their GY; you place them on top of their Deck in any order, also end the Battle Phase.”
Brooo im glad someone talked about this card.
When I last watched it I remember arguing in the comments that it’s the WORST card in probably all of the anime and it’s an example of the writers giving Joey waaay too many luck cards to raise tension
A 1 outta 3 chance of negating just one attack?? And no matter the outcome the opponent gets ANY 2 cards back?? That’s crazy card advantage
Easily the worst card the anime has ever made by far. They made Joey’s deck too luck based to fit his luck based theme
The Waking the Dragons arc was awesome. And, because I’m a weirdo hopeless romantic like that, I feel like Mai started to realize she had feelings for Joey when she cancelled her attack, literally rushing over to catch him mid collapse.
The mystery card Mai drew on her last turn in the first duel could’ve been the Equip Spell, Rose Whip. Since there was not a Harpy Lady on field to equip it to, this was basically a dead draw.
Or perhaps swordswoman.
I was thinking Cyber Shield, but that's also possible!
@@PlutoTheSecond The only wrong answers are cards that could’ve helped out Mai on her last turn. Like the Grave Arm spell card. She could’ve had used that to destroy Fiend Megacyber and then attacked Joey directly with her Pet Dragon and Dartz would’ve gotten Joey’s soul almost twenty episodes earlier. Plus with just 200 life points left it would’ve pointless for Joey to use Skull Dice on a direct attack.
Shadow eyes
TGS, since you’ve looked at duels for Yugi & Joey from the Waking The Dragons Arc, you should also look at Kaiba’s duels with Alister. The first one ended in a draw, so you could see if either could’ve won that one. Kaiba won their second meeting on the plane and you could look at if Alister could’ve won that one. They’re both really interesting duels and I think you could have fun breaking them down.
Another good suggestion
9:45 If I did the math right in my head, then Joey could have:
1) Special summon Fiend Mega Cyber first with its effect
2) Normal summon Time Wizard and gamble with its effect to clear Mai’s Monsters
3) Activate Monster Reborn to bring back a Harpie Lady
4) Attack directly with all 3 monster to deal exactly 4000 damage and Joey wins
BOOM! 😄
And knowing Joey’s luck… he’ll land heads most likely.
Do you people even watch the anime? Winning would've done nothing but take Mais soul. He had to draw out the Duel in the hopes of convincing her to stop.
Mais arc in this season is absolutely heartbreaking. It's a really powerful representation of severe PTSD and how people can act out, in her case overcompensation for being so vulnerable and seeking to trying to prevent this from happening by pushing to be stronger, even to the point of completely rejecting the people who are truly there for her, because all that will do is leave her vulnerable again.
Both Joey and Valon knew this, and wanted to help her in their own ways, Valon looking to protect her without respecting her desire to be independent, and Joey standing to remind her of who she is, and that it is ok to feel how she is feeling and to not let her trauma become her, nor allow her to be taken advantage of by Dartz.
This is actually the kind of subtext that seems to get missed a lot of the time regarding yugioh and especially in season 4, and I genuinely love the show for it.
another interesting detail with the phoenix formation that shows up in this arc. when mai lost to marik, it was to ra... RA... who posesses a phoenix mode effect to destroy monsters. Mai's phoenix formation is a weaponization of her trauma from marik against her opponent. However... Joey... has survived Ra before... so it makes sense that mai never quite manages to finish off joey with phoenix formation. also in that final duel, its kind of symbolic that joey survives the final phoenix formation attack by giving the power of his blue flame swordsman to her.
29:17 Warrior returning alive adds a Warrior to the hand. Joey had no way to summon Gilford the Lightning.
It’s the anime. Cards do different things in the anime
@ryhi5 Yeah, but warrior returning alive *doesn't*. He literally says in the video it adds a Warrior back to his hand.
@@christophermitchell9739 Gliford the Lightning is a warrior though
@@roninwarriorsfan but he can't summon it cause it requires 2 or 3 monsters as tributes
@@roninwarriorsfan yeah it needs at least 2 tributes to summon
Mai was so underrated with the Seal. She was a really really good duelist, and the extra abilities she gained was exactly her harpies needed at the time. Joey in this arc on the otherhand proved to every Kaiba fan that he was a top 5 duelist. Still never top 3 but he really grew
And then the Champions Tournament of Season 5 happened. It reduced Joey back to his Duelist Kingdom mentalities.
@@guitarbass22 so true
even kaiba's insult about him being a third rate duelist with a 4th rate deck would imply he's highly skilled as third rate is still pretty high and to be able to top or win any sort of tournament holding any prestige to it whatsoever using a 4th rate deck, which if we assume joey's deck as a prime example of, would place it as like a rogue or casual deck would further attest to his skill, so all that taken into account he managed to be a pro duelist without even remotely trying
@@lssjvegeta7103 If that iconic insult hides a mixed praise. He looks down on Joey's deck more than Joey's own playing skills.
@@lssjvegeta7103 "even kaiba's insult about him being a third rate duelist with a 4th rate deck"
He never says that in the anime. That line was only said by him in Duel Links. In the dub, Kaiba just calls Joey a third-rate duelist.
It’s cool that Joey used all three of his ace monsters in the rematch duel: Flame Swordsman, Red-Eyes and Gilford the Lightning. Don’t see that a lot where a main character gets out all of their aces in a single duel.
Both Yugi and Joey did it and both in filler episodes. Yugi brought out DM , DMG and MoC against Noah. And Joey did versus Mai in their last duel
Doesn't Kaiba get out all three of his Blue Eyes almost every duel ?
@@kaayjaay8while it is true he gets them out often, especially with BEUD as his boss monster, he often only needs 1 to get wins, it's rare for him to need all of them. Examples of kaiba only needing 1 blues eyes would be when he fought ishizu, Leichter and his second duel with Allister. He also only got 1 out when he dueled noah
Tho it is true that they are his strongest main deck monsters and his main aces, along with being stronger then all of Joey's aces (minus Gilford the lightnings effect, but thats more of a boss monster for Joey rather then an ace) and most of yugis big monsters (it ties Black luster Soldier, loses to Buster Blader due to its effect, and is flat out weaker then Valkierion)
@@blitz4779 Did i mention I'm also a Joey hater just like Kaiba
@@kaayjaay8 and i love joey so there you go
Joey's plan was to force a draw, but I don't even know how he could have done that with the cards we know he has, unless I'm forgetting something.
Worth noting he obviously added new ones to his deck after Battle City, Fiend mega Cyber was not in it then and neither was Cyber Tech aligator just to name two examples.
I could only think of a ring of destruction, but that’s a Kaiba card.
So it would have to be a card that makes Joey give up life points to then take Mai’s at the same time……..meteor of destruction would have been a crazy one, but definitely not that
I could imagine a Tremendous Fire. That spell deals 1000 damage to the opponent and also hits the user for 500. That might have been one of the rare spell cards Odion gave Joey while Joey was under Marik's mind control.
Was Zigfried about to defeat Kaiba?
Was Allister about to defeat Kaiba? (Both duels)
Make it happen TGS!!
Yea Allister vs Kaiba would be cool
I had that same thought!
What about was Joey about to defeat Zigfried??
Seconding a Zigfried analysis - one of my favourite duels in the franchise
Here’s an interesting one:
Was Leon about to defeat Yugi?
If I remember correctly it was her who collected Pegasus' soul, off-screen, so technically wasn't she one of the more successful seal users with two souls?
Granted, this wasn’t the Season 1 Pegasus that Yugi dueled against. He was monumentally more powerful and dangerous in S1, and was a shadow of his former self in S4. But at least he survived! If you follow the “canon,” Pegasus did not survive his duel with Yami Bakura in S1 after losing to Yugi.
@@guitarbass22i'm happy pegasus is a life in the anime we see him in gx and chilling in the walking of dragon's arc so i'm happy he didn't die i like the anime more then the manga
0:00 intro
1:06 Duel 1 episode 151
20:07 Conclusion duel
20:29 Duel 2 episode 172
32:39 Outra
Idk why, but the way he did the nonchalant spongebob imagination rainbow arch when he said, "picture this" makes us so happy. I love how expressive you are with your videos.
Also, love these duel breakdowns! So exciting ^_^
Joey's goal was to Save Mai, not defeat her. Even if he won the duel, then when Dartz was defeated Mai would've sought out another dangerous power to defeat Joey. By sacrificing himself Joey should Mai that he was always going to be there for her, so as far as I'm concern Joey is a winner in the end.
Joey was able to prevent Mai from becoming a dangerous version of Rex & Weevil.
29:29 (Justine Courtney voice (i ran out of prosecutors)): Objection! Sheep Tokens can't be used for tribute summons, even with Joey summoning Paladin of Dark Dragon, he needs 2 more monsters for the destruction effect. If he wasn't going for the destruction effect, he would have to forgo using Red-eyes & Hermos together since Gilford the Lightning requires 2 tributes (he needs his Ritual monster to bring Red-eyes out, or use said ritual monster & blue flame swordsman as sacrifices for Gilford. Joey doesn't have monster reborn in his hand to do everything)
I think the last card Mai drew was the Field Spell Harpies' Hunting Ground, which would have been useless on her last turn considering all the Harpie Ladies were still banished. Or, ya know, maybe it was Hysteric Party which is insane, but needs a discard to work.
maybe it was Harpie's Brother or another Amazoness card
Hunting Ground and Hysteric weren't made yet
She already has a Field Spell on the field.
Would she even run a field spell when she's using the Seal, tho?
@@SerenitySpiderMonkey*Sky Scout
i believe joey could have beat mai if he wanted to but that wasnt his goal it was to rescue her from the darkness and get her back joey isnt top 4 for a reason
Eh that's pretty lame. It's more fun when there are stakes and not that one character can always win with ease.
@@danieltodorov7753 it might be lame but thats what joey wanted to do
Little related to the duel, what's interesting when Valon's & Joey's soul gets taken away, they're the only ones shown they've accept the imprisonment in the carvings instead of reaching out their hands for help.
dont forget Weevil but uh
he was literally already gone by the time Atem finished attacking
That is a cool detail you’re right
@@woobgamer5210
I'm not talking about the Berserker Soul scene. It's the display on the stone carving when his soul was trapped like all but two people.
I always thought Mai was a really cool character when I was a kid and I hate how shafted she was. To this day, the Harpie archetype is still one of my all time favorites!
9:11
And right here, Atems lack of understanding others in seeing the benefits of losing. Only seeing pride in winning at all cost is more important regardless of the reason why.
Foreshadowing! That is how he lost to Rafael during their first duel
That isn’t foreshadowing. That’s character regression since he saw the benefit of losing back in Battle City when he refused to attack Normal Bakura for game and held back against Yami Marik because he didn’t want to kill Normal Marik.
Ignoring my desires to see a marathon video focusing on the Big Five Duels (AKA, Yugi vs. Gansley, Teá vs. Crump, Joey vs. Johnson, Serenity, Duke and Tristen vs. Nesbitt, Kaiba vs. Lecter, and finally Yugi and Joey vs. the Big Five,) I would also like to see the Kaiba vs. Allister duels in the near future.
Like and comment to make this happen
11:41 you said cleanest card throw? what about my boy kaiba STOPPING A GUN FROM FIRING BY THROWING A CARD!
Or how about with Tremolo vs Yudias? Tremolo only agreed to the duel in that he knew an alien flying fish informant - it's complicated - was in the area, and would seek to reconvene with the good guys. On a certain turn, Tremolo spots the fish, and then, makes a flashy move of boomeranging _two_ cards at once when he needed to do some GY cycling, and in the end, it's revealed that he _captured the fish between those two cards and stuffed it in his GY without anyone noticing beyond the over-the-top throw._ Now THAT has to be the cleanest throw ever.
My favorite part about watching these videos is waiting and listening for that added line of, "and the penultimate turn of the duel."
Tbf on Mai overthinking or being too safe..this did happen before in Duelist Kingdom when she dueled Yugi. She choose not to attack him for game because she was too cautious of his facedown when it was revealed that had she did attack she could’ve won..so it makes sense for it to happen again
Joey was at his prime during this filler (even if he held back against Mai and Rex).
The Joey respect during this arc is 💯
Sadly, he was butchered again during his fight with Pink Hitler!
Peak Joey here and even his losses are a result of him not actually trying to win and/or him not being in peak form through no fault of his own. Also while fighting an opponent with busted cards no one else had access to or even knows exists.
I mean to be fair Joey only lost to Sigfried because he had to relay on something as bricky as "Contingency of Madness" because if he would have called the card correctly would he have won next turn. Never mind that if he had the money to afort proper Negate Attack would he also just have won.
And mind you even Kaiba only won with just 50LP remaining despite knowing far more about Sigfrieds deck thanks to his duel with Joey ahead of time and getting some amazing draws of his "Card of Demise" in his last turn.
@@rynobehnke8289Honestly, his friends should get together and buy him a Negate Attack or Waboku and pull him out of this misery.
@@roncerjani9063
They properly should (or Tea should at least trait her Waboku with Joey) but I guess providing Joey with decent cards would make him less of an under dog so we can't have that.
@@rynobehnke8289 Nah he had some. Don't forget, he used Trap Hole, Fiber Jar, Graverobber (anime version is fantastic), Fiend Megacyber, Giant Trunade. I am pretty sure that they can get away with giving him Negate Attack or Waboku without messing with his underdog image.
I love that Joey has this jank combo luck deck that just randomly has, easily, one of the most OP cards ever printed
Cap 🧢
@@truthbetold6322 it’s literally been banned for 20 years. Name another card like that other than yata that’s not OP
Kunai with Chain. Right? I haven't seen anyone use that in a long time...
@@the_brutal_king4314 no. Kunai with chain was never banned.
He’s obviously talking about Fiber Jar. It’s basically a duel reset lol
I think the neko mane king play was due to the fact that Joey wasn't trying to win, only stall out the duel for a solution to present itself( and it actually does), but also because Joey knows Mai, and how she's unsure of her own abilities, and would go for the safest play. That way he knew that she wouldn't just attack for game, as he already used fiber Jar.
Mai was built up to be this great duelist but almost all of it is offscreen..the little that we see her legitimately win or even do well without some dark magic assistance/magic friendship assistance is agaisnt Tea but she faked a loss..also..Tea barely knew what she was doing and still almost won..relaitsiclaly..Tea is kind of interesting. Despite being downplayed so often, she pretty much comes out on top of the few times we see her duel. The reality is that she is pretty darn good..I would love to see a version of Tea more like Joey. One who was genuinly emotionally interested in developing herself as a duelist over just being mildly invested indirectly through her friendships with dueling fanatics. I feel she would have the potential to easily surpass Joey and Yugi withing a much shorter time than Joey was building up to. She gebuinly seems much more naturally skilled and capeable, even at a disadvantage. Mai is not the worst, but it does seem she had hit a wall by Duelist City. Tea was already nearly beating her on what is one if her earlier duels. Not her first but clearly before she even fully undersrnads all the basic rules.
The absolute madlad Joey is to achieve what he wanted even after going through 2 rough duels and at the cost of his own soul. His devotion to his friends is truly his greatest strength.
P.S. TGS, if it's okay to credit the background music for your videos, it'd be very much appreciated. The music is pretty cool, but it's hard to find them without knowing their names.
"Whoever loses this duel will now lose their soul. Never gets old. I love saying that!"
You and Tristan Taylor both.
8:23 (Klavier Gavin voice): Objection! Mai destroyed 1 sheep token, and Joey sacrificed 1 for panther warrior's effect (leaving 2 sheep tokens left), if Joey wants to attack with Panther Warrior in your scenario (where she attacks 2 tokens & ends her turn), he'd have to sacrifice Megacyber, Mai wouldn't have been able to win with Phoenix Formation in that case
2:31 Yeah, Mai probably knows Joey has Jinzo, which would completely hose those traps, so I'd actually say to keep them in hand was a good call
How Fiber Jar is described in the dub (definitely from a dub error) is even more crazy.
From what I remember it’s described that it forces both players to shuffle the cards on their fields and graveyards into one pile and both players draw five from the pile
“Was bakura going to defeat yugi”
I’m taking about the REALLY epic duel between them in season 5 of course, that seems like a good one.
Yugi certainly pulled a miracle and it was awesome. Yami Bakura had no chance against Yugi and Atem.
@@JaimeD. He had the means to tho, he just chose not to for some reason until it was too late. Watch the episode this guy did on Bakura VS Yugi in the battle city finals. Literally no reason for him to have lost that duel if he were even half as competent as Mai.
Considering that Yugi duels with his own deck that he had devised behind the scenes
@@codyhanson1344 I was referring when it was yugi alone that dueled him while stem was fighting zorc
@@RazorFrost680 I was referring to JaimeD's last statement. They didn't specify it only applied to season 5, it sounded like a blanket statement. Plus, I initially read the "Yugi and Atem" part as meaning he didn't have a chance against yugi and Atem working together, so I was pointing out a canon example where he most certainly did have a chance (he just blew it big time, despite the winning play being about as basic as it gets).
Weird that Joey doesn't know the effects of the Hermos fusion he makes in his first duel with it but, he knows every time after despite it being entirely different each time. Even more so for the fact that Atem and Kaiba knew every time what their legendary dragon fusion effects would be.
Probably because the anime's writers hate Mai and really wanted to rub it in that she was gonna lose to someone who doesn't know what his own cards do to justify her little quest for more power, I guess...
@@LonesomeDevilmore like they were Clowning on Joey Himself tbf(do you remember what they did to him the very next arc!)
They like the make Joey comedic relief when convenient, that’s probably why
@@emilstoqanov3270Exactly. They did him dirty in Season 5’s Champion Tournament.
@@emilstoqanov3270 To be fair... I never watched that arc. I was very tired of fillers at that point and just moved on to the last one. That's unfortunate to hear.
There was a period where they would throw "ending the battle phase" into effects of cards a lot. I think it was an experiment toward a detrimental, non-cost effect and shorter text. Since ending the battle phase typically came last it was just an additional affect of a card rather than a cost so there were unique advantages/disadvantages to balancing effects like that. It also restircted battle but didn't nessisarily restrict all battle in a turn and was shorter to put in a card than "your monsters can't declare an attack this turn.". It was a period between really early and more structured Yugioh where they were refining some game mechanics.
Ditto "opponent draws a card" as a drawback.
They should have made Mai the same age as Joey.
Yeah xD it’s weird that she’s 24 and he’s only 16
@@TheReaperofHadesmy boy likes his ladies older
Joey couldn't have Summoned Gilford back during the turn he makes REBDS, as the warrior returning alive returns the card to the hand, and does not summon it. He normal Summoned blue flame swordsman and then ritual Summoned knight of dark dragon
Mai had nothing left in the end of thier first duel here. XD
Please do the Big 5 duels someday
He might do a video of one of those duels sometime soon. I think he should do a video on that Gansley vs Yugi duel. If not what about Leichter vs Kaiba or the big 5 vs Atem and Joey.
I'm sure everyone remembers the order of all the Big 5 duels, but just in case you don't:
-Yugi/Atem (Kuriboh) vs Gansley (Deepsea Warrior)
-Tea (Dark Magician Girl) vs Crump (Nightmare Penguin)
-Joey (Flame Swordsman) vs Johnson (Judge Man)
-Duke (Strike Ninja), Tristan (Super Robo-yaru), Serenity (Goddess with the Third Eye) vs Nesbitt (Robotic Knight)
-Kaiba (Lord of Dragon) vs Leichter (Jinzo)
-Atem (Dark Magician), Joey (Flame Swordsman) vs "Tristan" (All Deck Masters)
@@TotalEvo7 out of those, I want to see that Joey vs Johnson(Judge Man) duel being covered and see how different that duel would have been if Johnson wasn’t constantly cheating until Noah showed up to interrupt the duel to tell Joey that Johnson was indeed cheating. Now that I’m thinking about it I would also like to see tgs cover that Big 5(as Tristen) Atem and Joey.
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Noah didn’t want Johnson to cheat, and yet he cheats with using a brainwashed Mokuba as a meat shield. Noah is a hypocrite and DESERVED to lose, his wealth, his status, EVERYTHING. He should be begging for scraps.
I will never understand ehy we didn't get a "this card can't be used in a duel" Cards of Sanctity where its effect is:
You cannot set spell or traps or summon monsters before you activate this card this turn. Each player draws until they have six cards in hand. You cannot activate this card if your opponent has four or more cards in hand.
I was completely shocked that Mai joined darts and his gang, I mean it’s was unjustifiable, she didn’t even call them for help, she just assumed they forgot about her!! But it was a pretty close duel
Assumed? Yes. But don’t forget… the PTSD from Marik’s Shadow Game didn’t go away after losing, Marik intended to break her. Mind. Body. And soul.
@@mystery8820 if only Mai dueled someone else in the finals, this wouldn’t had happened marik was so cruel and despicable towards her
She would eventually have to duel him.
Idk why but I just like these videos. As an anime fan, just playing this in the background while doing something is just fun
Hot Take! I always thought Serenity could have joined Dartz instead of Joey needing to rescue Mai AGAIN!
The virtual world arc was all about Kaiba Family Drama. The orichalcos arc could have focused on Wheeler Family Drama.
You got me wheezing with that "I know you are about to die but... Miss play..."
Awesome video as always Sam!!!!
I know you're probably not going to see this, but I just wanted to say that even though I don't play Yu-gi-oh anymore, I still keep watching your videos all this time. Not only are they fun, sometimes funny, but almost always entertaining and relaxing. Never saw you cursing, throwing a tantrum or being just overall a shill for anything, especially not getting yourself involved with controversies or drama. Recently I have been going through some major stressful days with family's health and my own, but things seem to be getting better and your content really helped me get through it. Keep doing what you do buddy, you deserve every single sub and view that you have. ✌
Man, coming back to this vid kinda illustrates how absolutely GOATed Joey became after Battle City (before the KC Grand Prix knocked him back down). Like, he gets two dedicated rivals from Doma and could’ve beaten one of them (who is admittedly Mai) on two separate occasions without his dragon if he really felt like it and beat the other guy on his first try (contrast Yugi losing to Rafael despite having his dragon AND The Seal of Oricalcos or Kaiba needing his dragon to force a tie on the first go).
“Her inferiority complex” damn drag her. She’s my favorite character of the entire series but that’s really the perfect words to describe where they took her character.
Man, we need more of these duel analysis including Sevens and Go Rush, congrats @TGSAnime :)
He's barely gone as far as Zexal; I imagine the latter series won't be included for a while.
EDIT: okay, he DID also do an Arc-V duel, but my point stands.
Will there be a video on Seto Kaiba vs Zigfried? That may have been Kaiba's best duel.
11:38 When Joey tried to do an impression of The Mask lol
While Mai's experience against Marik was traumatizing no matter how you slice it, I kind of wish the anime used the manga version of her duel with Marik instead. It would justify her anger and fear of losing MUCH more than simply feeling "Left behind", since she literally had several near death experiences both in the duel and in her resulting Penalty Game.
I am rewatching Yugioh 5DS, and in duel beetween team 5DS and team Unicorn, Jack made so big misplay on his first turn, that he lost, and 5DS won, only thanks to plot armor.
We're talking about the duel where team Unicoen lose on purpose due to Yusei's plot armor, that isn't that rare.
@@DarthFhenix55 Official duel in episode 98.
@@DarthFhenix55 I mean, come on, that plot armor in the final turn against Team Unicorn is simply ridiculous, even by YGO standards. The moment Jean realized Yusei was about to deck out, he should've immediately passed turn without doing anything which would force Yusei to lose UNLESS he had a card that allowed him to skip his own Draw Phase -- which wasn't the case.
It's amazing how often the opponent gets the "Seal of Orichalcos" in their first hand.
They even referenced this with Rex's fusion
Honestly, the way mai threw the card was clean, but you can't say the way Joey caught the card wasn't badass
Damn my brain just realised that Yugi is saying to Joey that surrendering a duel is basically a dishonourable way to lose a duel. That was accidently savage on Mia, considering she did that V Yugi at dualist Kingdom
Consider this, Joey fought a death duel, was half dead, still pulling punches, and Mai almost lost again….😂😂😂
She definitely got packed up that first duel before Valon came & played captain save a hoe 😂
I love this serie. Keep up the great work!
Raises the question on if Fiber Jar would have removed the Seal of Orichalcos or not.
I'm erring on no, but clearly Joey thought there was a chance.
Fiber Jar doesn't actually destroy cards it only returns them to the deck. According to anime rules, The Seal of Orichalcos "Cannot be destroyed by Card Effects" since Fiber Jar doesn't destroy only return, it would work on the Seal.
Actually, he couldn't have used Gilford because Warrior Returning Alive only brings the Monster back to his hand not the field, so he would need Tributes which he didn't have. Blue Flaming Swordsman was the correct move.
Also, if Joey did attack with Blue Flaming Swordsman on the first turn, sure he would have done some damage to Mai by getting out Flaming Swordsman, but then this would have snowballed into him losing the Duel. This would happen one of two ways, depending on whether or not he chose to set Scapegoat on his first turn after Flaming Swordsman attacks or if he waited until the next turn like he did in the actual Duel. In the scenario where he sets Scapegoats on Mai's next turn she use Monster Reborn to bring back her first Harpie equips it with Aero Nail and Summons the second Harpie, the first destroys Flaming Swordsman and the second destroys a Token. Next turn Joey can't summon his Aliegator now so he can just summon Swordsman of Landstar in defense. On Mai's next turn she summons her third Cyber Harpie and activates the Seal, then attacks and destroys Landstar and two Tokens. Joey's next turn comes and he bricks, he can't do anything. So on Mai's next turn, she destroys the last Token then uses her two remaining Harpies to attack for game.
Now in the scenario where he waits to set Scapegoat, Mai does her Monster Reborn, Aero Nail, and second Cyber Harpie play again, destroying Flaming Swordsman and attacking directly, dropping Joey to 1900 LP, and Mai sets Tri-Mirror. On Jeoy's next turn he again can't summon his Aligator, so insetad summons Landstar in defense and sets Scapegoat. Mai summons her third Haprie and plays the Seal and attacks, she destroys Landstar and two Tokens and gets four more Harpies thanks to Tri-Mirror. Joey's next turn he sets his two Traps. Mai tries to attack next turn but Joey tributes his last two Tokens to do his Double Magic Arm Shield and Vow of Tribe combo. Then on Joey's next turn he Tributes the two Cyber Harpies to get out Gilford(since it only requires two Tributes, but if you want to active it's monster destruction effect you need three) and uses it to attack and destroy another Cyber Harpie dropping Mai to 1700 LP. However, on Mai's next turn she uses Card of Sancity to get Sparrow Formation and with four Cyber Harpie's activates it to destroy Gilford and deal 2800 damage wiping Joey out and winning the Duel.
The fact that Joey has stood up to some of the heaviest hitters in the series like Mai, Kaiba, Marik etc... with, let's be honestly, a pretty damn awful deck, is just insanely impressive.
Edit: To all the comments replying how Mai is a jobber, yeah definitely in the series but she has a history of being an ace duelist and winning lots of competitions. Just because it's not shown in the show doesn't mean she didn't have skill. Just terrible writing 😅
Mai... a heavy hitter?
"heavy hitters like Mai" lmao
@@EnclosedPoolArea Never seen in the show but she's won multiple tournaments and is one of the best duelists around (obv not compared to Yugi/Kaiba etc), but they really do just make her a punching bag in the episodes lol
Mai was a jobber not a star, she never won anything on screen when a half dead Joey didn't just throw to her.
19:50 most of the Time Skull Dice Always Lands on a 2 I'm guessing the Screen Writers didn't know how to Divide the Attack Stat Except for Dividing in Half no Idea why....
Pls analyse 5ds duels
to be fair, the Neko Mane King gamble is the most Joey play ever
Mai is one of the OGs and therefore is immensely powerful. Also plotwise Joey was supposed to not be good yet whereas Mai was already a beautiful cool skilled duelist. It may have been close but Mai always had it.
Yeah, I think there's no doubt that Mai has a crap-ton more wins off-screen than Joey ever did, but the real issue is that the writers should have given her more time to shine to make it feel more believable to us the viewers. You know, using the "show, don't tell" rule.
@@LonesomeDevil I agree. If you take away the win against Joey from Waking the Dragons arc, Mai won a grand total of *drumroll* one legitimate duel on-screen.
She was lonely
The Claw of Hermos theme is an absolute banger
bro I'm begging you can you please make a video about team5ds vs team unicorn and team ragnarok please man its like my 8th time asking
I love listening to these not only as a stategy analysis but also an awesome duel breakdown
Please make a Judai VS Cronos vid.
Yes please.
Especially the rematch in season 4 for graduation. That one made me cry
@@christopherbouska6779That was amazing. Great arc for Cronos. Went from a borderline psycopathic and prideful guy to a great teacher who inspires his students to grow.
Whos cronos?
Sartorius?
@@nebbynetwork2089 Crowler!
@@nebbynetwork2089 Crowler's original japanese name.
I'm curious about something. If Joey's Fiber Jar's effect activated, since its effect forces a player action, would that have forced Mai to shuffle The Seal back into her Deck?
It's kind of hard to say because the anime text for the doesn't have any clear description or problem solving card text in regards to what the card actually does. In the anime we only know it properly because the people using it state which effects are applied when they use them and as far as the Seal goes we only know that it can't be destroyed by card effects (Yugi used Dust Tornado on it once and in a later duel didn't use Breaker to destroy the Seal of Orichalos) but we don't know if it's unaffected by all other card effects.
Props to Joey for insisting to keep himself going after his intense duel with Valon
If anything you gotta admit that it's awesome she went back to using Harpies in Waking the Dragons as oppose to Amazoness. Also I'm guessing the card Mai drew at the end of the first duel was Harpie Girl
Joey! If you lose the Duel....
You lose your soul!
Mai's unknown discarded cards are probably Harpie Tiger and Amazoness Pet Dragon.
Gods I wish we'd see these as long overdue crossover support.
@@christopherb501 was joking but that would be pretty cool ngl.
Hahaha why is the description for Alligator's Sword done in a Jamaican accent 😂😂 2:53
6:18 that would make a great wallpaper
Mai lost the moment she played the seal of orichalcous.
Everyone, even yami, who activates it loses
Personally I loved that they included Elegant Egotist and Harpie Lady Sisters. It was such a good callback to their first encounter in Duelist Kingdom and we as viewers can appreciate that despite everything Joey and Mai have come a long way, and w the way things ended made it all the more bitter sweet
He didn't get Gilford back because he activated the warrior returning alive which adds the monster to his hand so he would have been unable too Summon Gilford, if it was monster Reborn it was a misplay but joey made the right move here
Joey got that Gigachad face 🗿
MISPLAY! Joey could have won if he didn't use Claw of Hermos. Summon Paladin of Dark Dragon (1900 attack), use Blue Flame Swordsman ability to boost Paladins attack by 1800 (Blue Flame boosted Harpie's attack while its a winged beast, so I'm sure it would work on Paladin who is a dragon). Use Paladin and attack (3700) for game.
Joey just loves to faint during important duels.