I lived in northern Alaska in the 70s, was an arctic survival instructor and spent a lot of time in the wilderness. One thing everyone knew back then: Don't go anywhere without a firearm. Going into the Alaskan or Yukon Territory wilderness with just a bow is like going to a gunfight with just a knife. Nothing against bow hunters. But having a firearm backup on you or being with someone who is armed and can back you up is a must. So, here's one more scenario to consider: It's September and Bart is going to an unfamiliar area to camp. Bears are feeding as much as possible before they go into hibernation. Bart walks away from his campsite to have a bowel movement (he would do that to keep the odor away from his camp--a bear can smell that from far off). A grizzly, that has established this area as his, has has been watching and tracking him from a distance. While Bart is in this vulnerable position, the bear attacks. It could have been a black bear, but they usually are only this aggressive when they are desperate to feed or protecting cubs. And they usually leave a messy kill site. A grizzly would kill, eat a small amount and cache the rest (or camp out on it until consumed). You wouldn't find that much left. Finding a portion of the skull means something cracked it. Three animals live in that region that are capable of breaking a human skull: bear, wolf and wolverine. They often will break bones and not leave a mark on the bone. Which usually means it happened during or right after the kill. The skin and muscle will often diffuse the bite pressure so there is a break but the teeth marks are all in the tissue. That leaves out wolves and wolverines. Wolves leave a large bloody kill site because they are pack hunters. The wolverine would be feeding on what was left. So, most likely a grizzly. Or it could have happened differently. But I believe he was setting himself up for failure when he went out there unarmed. Remember Steve Irvin--you can risk injury or death with large animals for years and get away with it. Until one day, when the odds catch up with you. His passing is a loss for us all. The information he passed on to researchers advanced their understanding of the animals in the regions he frequented. Very sad. Anyway, hope this helps. Thanks for shedding light on the premature demise of this genuine Man of the Wilderness. Cheers.
Gus, excellent comments regarding what could have occurred. It is unfortunate that Bart chose to go into areas where inaccessibility and difficulty are the norm. By what was stated relating to his experience he surely should have known that having a firearm is something that clearly makes common sense. A firearm is a part of someones kit and is a tool that should be used if needed. The responsibility in having training and becoming competent with it rest with the person possessing it. Much too frequently individuals possess firearms in which they either lack the training or have limited knowledge of their operation and use. In the case of being in areas where there are dangerous animals it is clear that a person must have the means to protect oneself. In this case a bow does not suffice as a weapon that will do the job quickly and efficiently. Take care.
My friend, my son and i went fishing with Bart and his son in the Talkeetna river for kings. He fished for 8 hrs and never caught a fish. He was such a kind and patient man. I was so impressed with his attitude. Never got mad or upset. He said that's the way it goes sometimes in fishing. . I admired him. So sad what happened
Gerald: Bart sounds like a nice guy. It is truly unfortunate that he met with such a tragic end. People can always say: would have, could have, should have, but the reality is that many things can occur. Whatever happened, I hope that he passed quickly and did not suffer. This is something that we must all hope for and about when our time comes to an end. If things had been different or had changed, then he might still be with us today. I wish him well on his path to God. This is all that any of us can ask. Take care!
@@jasonstewart3748 not necessarily, only if the masses believe the propaganda. There is strength in numbers. That is why the government, The controlled media reports fear? Wake up.
Two words, Timothy Treadwell. When what was left of him was found after the grizzly bear attack all that was left part of his head and spine and his left arm from the elbow down, nothing else, no messy kill site, no rustled ground. Most likely scenario and explanation for the pants being off is he was probably using the bathroom and was attacked while in that vulnerable position by a grizzly that was probably stalking him, bears are smart and they will wait until you are in a vulnerable position and will sneak up and be on you before you have a chance to do anything r egardless of how experienced of an outdoorsman you are you are no match for a grizzly.
I thought they found Treadwell's entire lower body with one thigh eaten down to the femur which resembled a chicken drumstick that's been eaten to the bone? I could be wrong but if you google Timothy Treadwell remains photo's that picture comes up on multiple different websites and papers that wrote articles about the event.
Extremely silent. I was in copper harbor Michigan in the early years of my training. About 1998, I was bow hunting about 2 miles in, just sitting at my camp enjoying the beauty of Michigan's upper peninsula and out of no where, dead leaves sticks and everything we would normally associate with the sound of an animal walking through the brush was all around me, a giant black bear pushing 500 pounds or more suddenly appeared ten yards away. It was as if the animal had learned to place his feet where they would be as quiet as possible. A clear hunting strategy. They are canines after all. Smart adaptable animals.
I remember reading a story in "Outdoor Life" magazine. There was a problem with a wild grizzly. The government decided to hire some "expert hunters" to track and kill the bear. One was working a hot trail. Unknown to him the bear had circled backed and climbed on to top of a large brush pile. As the hunter passed the bear reached down and swatted him in the head. According to the story, the force of that "swat" exploded the hunter's head. The thing that gets me in most of these cases is ALL the experts consulted, very few mention the real expert, the animal itself.
@@bojangles2492 Have you ever seen what a .30 caliber bullet does to a human head? Call bs after you have. Back in the day when people read actual magazines "Field & Stream" & "Outdoor Life" were like the Bible of hunting and fishing. It wasn't like the internet where you have to verify everything.
Amen! People should be armed everywhere they go. A firearm can be the difference between life and death, especially for women and other vulnerable people.
I am originally from Southeast Asia and I can relate. The tropical jungles in my part of the world are full of things that can make your trip into the jungle a very short one. Pythons, crocs, bears, tigers, leopards, wild dogs.. you name it. Plus a plethora of leeches, blood sucking insects, spiders, scorpions, centipedes, poisonous plants. Not to mention poachers, smugglers, traffickers. It's a very unpleasant environment tbh.
@@ivanakhid3333 yeah, I don’t see a guy showing a bear his phd’s and the bear then apologizing to him and go looking for food elsewhere, lol…wild animals can be unpredictable. No matter how much you have studied them and think you know them they are wild and if they are hungry and bigger and stronger than you are they will eat you.
Yesterday I took my Rottweiler out to a small town surrounded by mountains and rivers in Alaska. It was a stunning day without a cloud in the sky. There was fresh snow and it was so beautiful. I was listening to a podcast as I walked the banks and noticed several eagles nests. It was beautiful and I walked towards them. I realized the podcast I was listening to described a female who was murdered next to a river bank by someone that had been watching her from the woods. As I neared the eagles nest, I noticed a blue color in the trees and was able to make out a tent. Then I realized I was being watched. Even with my gun and big dog, be aware. I thought I was alone out there. If I hadn’t been listening to the podcast, I don’t think I would have noticed.
What happened after you noticed you were being watched?!?!?!? Did you see him? Was he following you? Did anyone fire a shot? What happened? How close was this person?
Some additional details, only the remains of one meal was found, the rest remained in its case, so the bear had seemingly attacked him on his first day at the lake unless he had caught some fish, either way the attack happened not long after he'd been there. His remains had been scavenged and spread out for nearly two weeks, that's why it didn't look like a typical grizzly kill site. The reason no grizzly cache was found was because again it had been at least 10 days since the attack occurred. Furthermore the only predictable thing about grizzly behavior is how unpredictable it is. When blood is found on his clothing and human remains are found in the grizzly scat, it is not a mystery what occurred. There is nothing mysterious about his death. Occam's Razor tells us if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it isn't a hippopotamus. He was clearly killed by an animal. No evidence of a cougar attack, no evidence of a wolf attack, ample evidence of a grizzly attack. Schleyer had once called in a grizzly on himself while calling moose and this is most likely what happened. It got in close in the dense brush and struck too fast for him to do anything. He was very experienced (to say the least) and was prepared, they are just that fast and ruthless. If you live in grizzly country you will have heard dozens of stories of their incredible intelligence when it comes to stalking and sneak attacking humans. No one is safe when they decide to do this. They will drop cubs off in hiding and circle back around, wide around, taking up to an hour to do so, and sneak up behind you on the trail. I appreciate that you do not alter facts to make things more 'mysterious'. Unfortunately David Paulides of Missing 411 has a lot of listeners and in his video on Bart Schleyer he states that no blood was found on any clothing and that the bear scat did not show any signs of human remains, both statements are demonstrably false. He does this quite often. Thanks for not doing that.
Hopefully he died quickly, big cats are known for this also, quick and violent outbursts. People tend to forget that the mindset at the moment changes the perspective of the facts completely, maybe he wasn't in a good mindset and that led to his demise. I think the bear mauled him and crushed the head with its weight.
I like the racks, not bs to heighten up the story. I hunted the Maine woods 40+ years now a lot of unexpected things happened. I am corniced of a surprise Grizzly attack.
I used to go to wild and away places, always felt self assured I could deal with anything. Several times I encountered sketchy people and had animals walking around my tent at night, heard some grunts, sniffing, scratching… I kept quiet and silent, so did my smart big pit bull and I always stayed the remainder of the days intended. But one day went to explore a new area and as soon as got there, an uneasy feeling overwhelmed me, (I believe the Holy Spirit alerted me) … I felt vulnerable, being alone (didn’t have my dog), no gun and getting into the evening hours… I didn’t see of hear anything but my whole body felt kind of numb, I left and hiked my way back to my truck. Although I continue camping in remote areas, never visited that area again. There are definitely lots of peace and beauty but also weird things out there in the wild .
@@thebibleisaxiomatic8178 Probably I’d have not seeing anything but not being able to have a peaceful night either. It is good to “listen” when warned of weird of dangerous situations. I’ve been spared from many of those, that’s why I have learned to just simply follow the “warnings”.
@@julesgardet659 - Always listen to your gut instinct ... I was hiking up a side canyon of the Colorado trying to find some hot spring. All of a sudden I got a urgent "warning" in my head saying get back down to the river! I ran back just in time to grab my kayak as the water level rose from a dam release. Always tied up after that.
Yup I've been there before, I fish in really remote places and went alone quite often, but there was a certain area I went that each time I went there I had this very uneasy feeling, after the second time I never went back to that place, don't know why but something was telling me to get away from there, never had that feeling about any other spots I went
Most people really underestimate how dangerous the wilderness is here in Canada. I live in a large city surrounded by mountains. Many tourists don't understand that the moment you step out of the city and into one of the mountains you are right away in bears or cougars territories. Even the suburbs aren't safe from the bears especially in fall.
Yeah I live here, love the mountains and camping but I feel extremely vulnerable sleeping in a tent in the wilderness. 99% of the time I camp now I sleep in the back of my 4x4 suv . I've ran into black bear and cubs once during the day and would never want to be laying on the ground woken up in the middle of the night by a bear .
for anyone to say "the least likely event is a bear attack" a bear could have taken a single swipe at him and took his jaw off or fractured his skull. One swipe and your switch is turned off. No struggle. No playing dead. It makes pretty good sense to me.
As a lifelong hunter & former guide, their is things in the mountains that can kill you in a heartbeat, doesn't matter how prepared, or how much knowledge you think you have
It actually does matter how prepared you are. If you constantly have a high caliber magnum as a side arm(44 Caliber or 50 Caliber D. Eagle) and stay hyper-alert at all times, then there's *NO* reason for you to get killed.
@@LIQUIDSNAKEz28 lol life isn't like a movie where you can snap off a headshot on a 40mph charging animal like it's nothing, having a gun doesn't automatically make you impervious to everything.
@@savannahkorben7353 true but it definitely helps.... Just the sound of a firearm usually will send Bears and other animals running.... And definitely the bear spray
@@kendalgreene8688 certainly isn't something to lay your life on, they can also ignore both gunfire and bear spray and take you down. Apex predators are dangerous no matter what we have on us, nothing's guaranteed.
What stuck out the most for me was the fact that remnants of his dinner were left in camp. Even I know to never leave food lying around a campsite & I’m from LA! Something strange happened at his campsite IMO.
"I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all."
A bear is much more quiet than what most people think. A predatory bear can be extremely quiet when stalking. My husband was in his small tent reading. A black bear "sneaked up on him" to scratch at his backpack that was next to him just outside his tent. The scratching was the only thing he heard. It was quiet with no wind and lots of dry crunchy leaves. Thank God it ambled off when he yelled at it.
I agree.... there are things in the woods we have no control over and know nothing about... a gun is an equalizer, and could save your life!!! Everytime I step foot in the woods, there is a 12gage pump fully loaded on my back.....
@@sirandrelefaedelinoge yes your right. I apologize. If you cannot access a firearm, you need a machete, or a big knife, anything you can protect yourself with.
I will say a bear as in a mother bear watch that movie Revenant I think that is the name. It shows a bear attack without food on site and eating a human being would not make the camp meal as a snack. I would think the bears appetite was filling. Sorry to be so blunt. But that was also the case of yet another man who did not take his ride out by plane asap....did not want to return to cement city. Even though he was familiar with a few bears he certainly was not with all. So to say in bear country there is no supermarkets out there. These men love nature however fending for oneself can create cannibalism as a bear starving it makes sense. The man who was attacked by the Bear had always a video on with sound and his girlfriend had left yet on other reports she was there. A report said to her from one that the sound on the video you do not want to listen to. It is quite disturbing of her boyfriend being attacked by a unknown bear he was not familiar with.....and as the story goes how many times will a man think a bear will just pull up a stool and join him at the campfire totally crazy and in areas that are full of mother bears and the males too.
It's clear Bart went into the woods countless times without a firearm, which gave him confidence that he was safe without one. It's probably safe to say that if you have a firearm with you, you'll likely never have to use it in self-defense. However, bad luck is a numbers game and if you do something risky often enough one day you're gonna draw the short straw. And if you're not prepared for that unlikely event, you're history. Bart's vast experience and knowledge gave him a false sense of security.
Bear spray much more effective than a gun against bears. Unless you got a Desert Eagle, or a shotgun with slugs, or explosive ammo. You don’t get more than a couple trigger pulls, where bear spray is a cloud that blinds them. Some crazy person probably killed him. A lot of crazies live out in remote locations.
I’d take the gun then to deal with the crazy … I’m leaning on side of like above … Your never an expert .. you can know a lot but nature & timing is boss .. real shame but just think bear … respects to all . 😘
"bad luck is a numbers game and if you do something risky often enough one day you're gonna draw the short straw" Agreed, 99.9 percent safe means its a certainty that given enough time luck runs out.
My old man was a great outdoorsman. He used bows and rifles but always took his 44 mag on his side. I remember asking him if it was for the bears. And he said, man even the deer can kill you.
@@alexmartin3143 I agree, something that confused me growing up, as children take things literally...a lover being called Baby etc. I think it is like the old days when a couple became parents and would call one another "Mother" or "Father". My Old Man is a husband, and Old Lady a wife -- settled into a life together, regardles of age.
I have lived most of my adult life in the Canadian Rocky mountains of Alberta, guiding, hunting, hiking, camping etc. so I am familiar with life in the bush. Strange things happen in the wilderness and there is no way of knowing the reasons for the anomalies in this case, but one thing is for sure, its wild country and no matter how well prepared and trained you may be, it can (and occasionally does) kill you.
I think 'well renowned expert or well supplied' doesn't matter sometimes in a remote location. Predators are in charge in those areas. All it takes is one little moment of stupidity or non-vigilance to become the prey.
Yes, I totally agree. And I have seen other video's where dogs, wolves and bears have completely removed the pants from the victim but shaking the hell out of them. Sometimes Nature wins the fight and the grizzlys will scatter the evidence. They didn't care for the food in the container bcuz the poor guys body was enough. So sad and one of the worst ways to go. R I P.
I went through my stage of going to somewhat remote places. I don't do it anymore because a couple times I sat there and said "what if you did fall". Even on a little hike in france, I got into trouble but wasnt to far from my car as weather coming in and freezing everything quickly. I got cold. Then im Spain. I laughed when I saw a bear sign in a remote trail parking spot. 20 feet down the trail they had another sign. You see them everywhere in Europe but you rarely see big game. A short walk down the trail I saw a fresh track and felt I was being watched. I went back to the car.
@@theodoresmith5272 The signs are there becuz the game wardens have seen them. The bears are running out of food resources and will smell a human before a container of food. The videos that I've seen have mauled people to be unrecognizable, and they tried every tactic to thwart them off. Better to be safe than sorry.
@@floridagal150 we will never know but several scenarios are most likely. when I was in Alaska, the moose were more dangerous then bear. They said he was hunting a moose. With a bow in that landscape it often under 20 yards. The moose are huge and a charge could have wounded or even killed him out right so it wouldn't leave bear attack signs in the part of the head they found. Im sure bears and/ or other scavengers would have made him go away in a few days. I'm going to say he didnt end up in the water which is usually my 1st suspect when there is a good size body of it around. 2nd exposure. Nope. So that leave 3rd a natural event, could he have been hit by lightning because its not lile he got caught in a mud or snow slide, flash flood, or anything like that. So Something killed him. Take your pick bear, moose or wolves. Then they ate him and so didnt other animals right down to the ants that will hide the evidence.
I've been studying ursus horribulus and canis lupus for 40 years. Specifically bear and wolf attacks. It's pretty obvious there are only three main causes of his death, he either had 1. an internal fatal crisis event or 2. he was the victim of a bear attack or 3. He was the victim of a wolf attack. My guess is that it more than likely happened when he grabbed his bow, got into his boat and went to call a moose that he may have seen across the shore somewhere. He may have walked down to the water to rinse off some pots and pans and seen a moose on the distant shore and ran back up to his campsite and grabbed his bow and some quick supplies and took a quick paddle over there. Stopped, ran up and wanted to see if he could call the moose back. And that right there could have either brought in the bear or the wolves. Didn't bring a handgun or rifle with him and that's it. Even if he brought a handgun or a rifle which he didn't but even if he did it's possible a grizzly still could have got him as is all too common with hunters not having time to shoot and kill a charging grizzly. But for me his biggest mistake was going in to grizzly country number one, alone and without another experienced armed hunter. And number two he went in alone in grizzly country during hyperphasia which is obviously the time of year that grizzlies are ravenously eating everything and anything they can to put on weight for the winter. You never go into deep grizzly country during hyperphasia without being on high high alert always having plenty of firepower on you with other people around you with plenty of firepower. Finally, just because there's no sign of a struggle on the ground doesn't mean that there wasn't sign of a struggle that is later covered up by the elements whether it's a hard rain that repacked the soil down or maybe there just wasn't signs of a struggle, that doesn't mean there wasn't one. It also doesn't mean that it wasn't wolves either that could have got him. For over 20 years from my Early childhood into my teens and young adulthood I defended wolves believing that attacks on humans were very rare. However with the emergence of the internet and access to more information I soon discovered that was not the case and that there are many many reports of wolves attacking and killing human beings being the opportunist that they are. But either way grizzlies don't always go for the head. They will pin you down and just start eating your leg and they absolutely will rip your pants off to get to the flesh. They eat you alive unlike wolves that have the natural instinct to go for the throat and dispatch its prey quickly to avoid the prey from struggling or getting away. So it's possible either wolves or bears got him.
Really!!!! Well I don't believe that stupid outrageous senario at all , simply because everyone such as yourself are too damn quick to blame nature or the wild animals instead of sticking to the very simple and.rather obvious expaination ; which is that he was killed or murdered by one or more persons who either knew him and where he was going or some stranger or strangers who were already up there waiting to ambush and murdered anyone that they.came across and they did!!!!! And. by the way you were right in saying that he should've never went up there alone and without a gun or rifle etc !!!!????!
No matter how experienced he was, if he went out there with no firearm, he had clearly become cocky or complacent... Anyone THAT skilled and knowledgeable in the woods would NEVER go to that region without a side arm of some sort. For outdoorsman or any other hobby that comes with risks.... Complacency Kills. There has been 1 black bear spotted within 4 miles of where I deer hunt. It was spotted 4 years ago and had 2 cubs with it. To this day, I do not walk to my tree stand without a side arm. Period. Just better to be safe than sorry.
I was friends with Bart for a season. He was amazing when it came to knowing about animals. I thank God for our time. I will see him again someday in heaven.
Sorry for the loss of your friend:( Do you believe it was a bear attack? Sorry again for your loss and thoughts and prayers for you and Bart's family & everyone who knew him.
definitely sounds like a missing 411 story. where items were found where people had previously searched, as well as the horrible weather at start ending any type of search. some weird stuff for sure
I remember hearing this from the missing 411 stories and it always amazed me how people think just because someone is an expert or prepared that it automatically means they can’t be killed doing what they do. You’re out in someone else territory you aren’t safe no matter how versed you are in it
Then again, why is everyone assuming he was killed? The guy could've had a stroke and been eaten later. The part about his tent and supplies being untouched definitely doesn't suggest a bear.
@@joshuagross3151 the bears shit where he died. Whether they killed him or not, they were there, and they didn't eat the food. It's almost as if animals don't always do everything you assume they will.
@@Guts3570 EXACTLY. People tend to think too often that animals always will operate in a manner you think you they will. They occasionally act JUST as unconventional as US!
This is what struck me, too often in these "mysterious" cases the argument against the most likely things that kill people in the woods is "but they were super duper experienced." Yeah, but people are dumb and we all make mistakes. This guy's mistake was overestimating his skills and equipment. I found easy explanations for the majority of the "Missing 411" cases and this one too. I like how the 411 guy did note that a lack of a firearm on the person was a correlated factor to disappearance. I'm an experienced outdoorsman, familiar with topo maps and land nav from my time as a paratrooper, and all my experience and training has ever taught me is just how easy it is to get turned around and lose your bearings or how fast a reliable piece of equipment can fail you.
I've read alot about Grizzly attacks and one thing is sure - they are unpredictable and wild. You never know if they are going to go for the head, or the groin. They found Tim Treadwell's arm without a defense wound on it. And he was attacked in the groin first, not the head. So you never know where the bear decides to grab you. And once he attacks, it will cache what they don't eat. So it's possible that this poor guy was attacked, and even cached and the dinner never touched since the bear had enough. I think this case proves that no matter how much you know about bears, you still can never predict them. And you will never, ever, be safe around them in their territory. Never. It will catch up with you sooner or later.
@@speteydog2260 Most of the time they'll leave you alone, but this guy went out in late September, the end of the feeding time and right before hibernation, so the sickly bears are out trying to forage anything they can to put on weight for the winter - and if that means easy pickings with a human, then so be it. Tim Treadwell made the same mistake. For a guy who knew a lot about wildlife, he must have known he was taking a big risk going so late in the season.
@@joshuacruz4244 He was actually attacked in the head, then the groin, to which he was dragged away from the camp and devoured. Judging by the description of his panicked mouth and expression: Treadwell was aware he was being eaten alive. Not long after, the bear returned and devoured his girlfriend, Amy. Bears do not have natural predators. They are not like most predators that may be deterred, or warred by another animal. Being killed by a bear is terrifying. You either are found "peacefully" sleeping, with just an arm and part of your head remaining; or you are found with an agonizing look of fear, and pain, with just an arm and part of your head remaining. All in all, my rant is to say simply: never go into the woods without a weapon or deterrence for the apex predator in the area.
I survived a bear attack five years ago. I got away from the bear and her Cubs. Eleven months later I returned to the site with large carnivore biologists where we discovered the entire skeleton of the elk I was attempting to retrieve. Intact. The bears never returned to it. Bears are the apex predator. Always. Bears are unpredictable. They will do what is natural until they don’t.
Imo, the most compelling evidence here of something extraordinary happening is that his food remained untouched. The rest can reasonably be somehow explained though improbable--they were yet possible events. But a bear's entire Natural design, unimprovable I might add, it's whole reason for being and the unending laser like focus of it's existence is one thing: to sniff out food and scarf it down with greedy, insatiable intent. Perfect scripting call, btw, on leaving that point for last and I totally agree. As soon as you said that I was like, "Whoa." I'm no bear expert but I know Nature and that's not how she operates. It seems a virtual impossibility that food remained untouched. And antecedent to that the alleged bear would have had to surprise a man universally-regarded as the very pinnacle of achievement across so many fields and disciplines of Biology and wildlife that I lost count, THE premier mountain man of his day--everyone is fallible but I find that extremely unlikely. Just bizarre. And such a seemingly warm and genuine man. Such a life lived of frankly jaw-dropping skills, knowledge, and achievement and just basic decency is a rare and beautiful thing, I must say. 🙏❤️☯️
I was an avid outdoorsman, and spent summers in Alaska. The most experienced hunting guide/tracker/hunter I knew had a lot of stories where he was overwhelmed, outwitted, or survived by the Grace of God and good luck alone. In my personal experiences in the backcountry alone, there were many times where one inch left or right and a rattler would have struck me, or I would have fallen off a ridge, or break my leg. Life is full of inconceivable circumstances that even the best of us did not foresee. I'm guessing this gentleman knew this and placed himself in a position to encounter dangerous unexpected events. That's part of the wonder of the wilderness/wild. Some of us tend towards settling down with a family and life in the suburbs (especially with spouses who prefer city life) , but still understand things happen to the best of us. I doubt there is that much of a mystery here. As many have said, bear country includes apex boars who cachet even large moose, caribou, elk. A man would be easy to cachet. I've seen bear cachet mounds 3 meters high. Quite easy to store one man there.
I saw a TH-cam video a few days ago & commented on one part in which 2 men appeared to be about 30yards away from a bear that lay down facing away from them. The men were focused on a bag on the ground. I wrote they were too close & focused on a bag instead of the bear. Well he responds he's been an Alaskan hunting guide for 10yrs & the bear in the shot looks close bcz telephoto compression & I shouldn't talk what I don't know bcz I never been around bears. He says not all bears are aggressive & he's been within 10yards of some. I apologized though he would have know the telephoto would have that appearance as being much closer. I didn't respond further, but I see how "expert guides" get into trouble if they think it's OK to be 10yards from a wild bear. Nobody needs to be an expert or around bears to know that.
At 8:25 in this has animal stalking and attack written all over it. Often that exuberant love of animals causes overconfidence in their habitats. Backcountry Alaska without both a rifle and high caliber handgun, worn chest rig accessible, is just not a good idea. God bless him. Prayers for his family & loved ones
I don't want to die doing what I love. I want to live doing what I love. And dying sure is going to ruin it for you so I don't think he died thinking, "Boy, this isn't so bad, at least I'm enjoying my hobby while dying horribly". This is just one of those platitudes used by people to try and make everything seem like a back-handed victory, but it's meaningless and a way of whistling in the dark
I went to school with Bart. He was definitely a mans man. 6’2” 220 build like brick house He was very handsome but very humble. He lived in Culbertson Hall Dorm on the “animal floor”. His nickname was Wolverine because he was absolutely the toughest of the tough. I always admired Bart and looked up to him both for his physical prowess as well as his humble nature. His loss will resonate with many people, friends, classmates, researchers, etc. Rest in peace Wolverine🙏🏻🙏🏻
What makes his death strange is that there was only a piece of his skull found with no human tissue on it. No other remains. He was only gone a couple weeks. What has the power to break a skull apart and where are the rest of the bones? Where are the rest of his clothes? There's evidence that bears ate his remains, but no evidence that they killed him. His food at the camp site was untouched. Way too strange to be a natural death.
There is no evidence that any animals at all (bears wolf's squirrels) ate his remains or what even happened to the remains. Nothing at all in any poo piles cloths or bones to indicate animals did anything!
After reading all these comments I consider being alive a miracle. I never took a firearm on my solo backpacking trips, it was part of the "thrill". My only defense was bear spray, Bowie knife and my spear if I ever had an uneasy feeling about the area. I did experience my share of near death experiences due to sudden weather change, rattle snake encounters, slip and falls. Also bears, and cougars stalking me. Waking up to cougar piss right outside my tent. I stopped once my wife became pregnant.
the bear attack didn't have to be for food. if he had only a bow and arrows (did not carry a gun), its hard to defend with that against a surprise bear attack. It was fatal mistake not to bring a gun into wilderness.
Idk what people are thinking, i travel on a motorcycle and carry a gun on my person, you never know where you'll pull off or break down. Murderers, creeps, rapists, wild animals. You just never know.
d mx: You are correct. Even carrying a bow and being an expert with it cannot make up for carrying a heavy caliber handgun for a back-up weapon. This can make the difference between life and death. I am a veteran of the U.S. Army Special Forces and we always operated in teams. This ensures safety and provides for better over watch. We were on a mission in the Brooks Range in Alaska and the parameters involved team cohesion. This is especially true when facing the unknown. It is unfortunate that Bart lost his life and the answers as to why or what killed him cannot be determined.
A bow is next to useless against a bear. Even if you could kill it with a bow you wouldn't do it instantly and in that time it would rip you apart. A lot of guns are useless against a bear. Youd be best off with a powerful shotgun. You need something that will stop it in its tracks and preferably make a very loud noise in the process.
In Canada you can’t carry a handgun especially as a foreigner. Maybe he could have a shotgun for protection Im not sure. I just hunted whitetail in Manitoba during muzzleloader season. Having a pistol or even shotgun with me was not a legal option.
Speaking as a parent who lost a teenager in a car accident, we all grieve in different ways when the impossible actually happens to us. You look for blame and reason where there is none to be found. The only thing that helped me to cope were the facts of the matter and how humanly fallible we all are, especially when we believe we are invincible. A human being can only survive losing up to four internal organs (at most) and even then, the EMT's know they are gonner's despite their heroic efforts. They see fatalities everyday, which would explain the hesitancy to argue with the bereaved family and friends who are demanding more should be done in the wake of a tragedy. It also puts recovery and rescue personnel at risk of being attacked by going deeper out, to look for evidence when they all understood (with great probability) what the outcome would be. I do appreciate their sheer will and determination to find their friend alive. Hope and your faith in God is a powerful motivator. However, judging by the evidence, and despite Bart's vast knowledge of the wilderness, what happened to Bart was clearly a bear attack. How many times do we hear about the bears consuming a body and only leaving part of the head intact? A few shattered bone fragments? Perhaps Bart was washing up, or swimming to shore with his canoe, or even had fallen asleep without his pants on, or had been distracted washing his field clothes when the event occurred. He was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. It could happen to anyone. At least he died doing what he loved to do, pursuing his sport. The bear doesn't care how smart and how educated you are. The bear is a cunning and wild apex predator and you are in his territory. And no matter what level of expert he was, he broke the cardinal rule by hunting (or hiking) alone in bear country. That is the risk you have to assume when you are out hunting. You must always assume there are dangers and risks when you step out into the woods.
I myself is an avid hunter/outdoorsman who lives out in the sticks out in remote Montana. I remember reading this story in the newspaper at that time. The story jumped out at me seeing how I shared the same kind of passions for the outdoors. I wonder if it’s possible an animal attacked him while going to the bathroom? It would explain him missing pants, right? Sometimes we could really overthink things, but then again, we live in a cruel world. My thoughts n prayers go out to his family. Holidays are probably hard on them. Cheers
Anything is possible, but as soon as they mentioned he didn't have a firearm, that's kinda a weird move. Montana is wild, but not on the same level as Alaska/N. Canada.
I’m thinking that. Or possibly a bull moose attack. The rut is on that time of year and if he has to be patient for a close shot no doubt a moose could smash his face in on a charge or trample. I’ve seen a few videos of archers being attacked by close moose. Weird case
This is definitely a great mystery. As someone with so much experience, but not to mention the evidence they did find. Just so odd. Especially considering the report I was able to find via your description (Thank you for always leaving details) very sad and prayers for his family.
I saw my strong, fit, 6'5" uncle die in an old age homè, it took 3 years of lost dignity, loss of control over his life, being slowly reduced to a person that could not even talk anymore. It made me wish I would rather die in a war in a firefight.
It doesn't matter what level of experience someone has, because there are dangerous animals, that are sometimes more dangerous than you are. He tested his luck until it finally ran out, and then he became a tasty snack. As a Canadian I have a healthy respect for large, muscular creatures that know their surroundings better than we do. My father survived 6 years of combat in WW2, but barely survived, getting charged by a Moose. He shot 5 rounds out of his Savage model 99 lever gun, and they all bounced off it's thick skull, and luckily his hunting partner killed it with his 30-06, before it struck him down..
Wow what a story! Ikr I respect nature these big animals etc! If your gonna go hunting hiking camping better be prepared best ya can! Big bears & cats are no joke! Those moose etc either!
There is a lot missing from this account, regarding the condition of evidence. So the camp was normal in appearance, looked like it would look if he had no worries about bears so maybe he hadn't seen any around camp. It's nearly his last day there and he wants a successful hunt, so even though the weather is doubtful he gets his hunting gear and jumps in his boat and paddles a half mile to a place he thinks is good. Then the weather goes to crap, suddenly, and he winds up in the water trying to get the boat to shore. Water temp there is cold enough you have a few minutes before you can't function. They find his bow near the boat, then the arrows, then his dry bag against a tree in a spruce thicket. Scattered clothing about the area. Even experts make mistakes, and in a place like the Yukon a mistake can kill you no matter how expert you are. I can grab a half dozen memories of such things in my own experience, stuff that happened that I didn't expect and I'm only alive now because I was lucky and it didn't kill me. Sometimes you aren't lucky. When you are in last stages of hypothermia you get really stupid, start leaving gear behind, take off your clothes because your body is flushing the last bits of heat to your extremities to keep you moving and you feel hot. Then you get tired and you sit down and you freeze to death. People find piles of clothing neatly stacked, never find the body sometimes because people in that state of mind hide somewhere. Bears don't eat pants, neither do wolves, the account mentions wolf scat I think, and wolves dismember bodies and bury them. Would probably be a lot in the evidence recovered that would support or deny these ideas, but it's not covered in the video.
I would be very interested to know if any arrows were missing. I agree he made a fatal mistake or had a medical emergency. I dont know how they can call what they examined an autopsy. He could have had a head injury. Why were his arrows not with his bow? Were arrows missing? Whatever happened he was eating and stopped. I would love to see the reports from the investigation.
I’ve read quite a bit about this story and it’s pretty clear he was attacked by a bear. Being a bear expert means nothing when a bear decides to take you. The rest of his remains were probably stashed by the bear or taken off by other opportunists. Finding remains in the Yukon is far beyond a needle in a haystack. Remember that it took a team to find his personal items just 60 yards away from his bow.
I think you are wrong, Everything and everybody said, there are no bear marks found on his body that was examined. Nothing at that site suggest that. This man was a highly trained outdoorsman. Nothing of the food was touched or eaten, and yet we are again here saying this was a bear. People always are afraid to say something else dark happened here, and just choose for the safest answer and that's the bear. I can't believe that, his case has a lot of similarities with dozen of other cases where people vanished forever of are found years later with no clues. He was in the middle of fucking nowhere so no human killed him that i'm sure and no animal, so something else happened here. David Paulides wrote also heavily on this case. Henry Ford once said: I think somebody is fishing on us! I do believe that, we do the same to animals. I'm just sayin, keep an open mind, don't jump to the easiest conclusions just because the mind can't handle it or the truth.
There's a chilling line from a famous Canadian poet that says: "There are strange things done in the midnight sun...the Arctic trails have their secret tales that would make your blood run cold." (Robert Service)
Lol...a grizzly stalking a human for days in order to eat them is more like something from a movie or a book. Grizzly are almost always more interested in the trash and the food you have than actually looking at you as a meal. The only bear known to consistently stalk humans for pray is the Polar bear and they're behavior patterns are totally different than a Grizzly or Brown bear.
There's one important piece missing to the story. The first Pilot that arrived to pick up Bart stated that he had this uneasy feeling and specifically remembers being "creeped out" to the point that he jumped back in his plane and flew off.
Years ago I lived in central Idaho. I was alone, bow hunting for elk in the Pahsimeroi Valley. I saw a number of elk skeletal remains (some, if not most wolf kills I assumed) I was slowly moving through timber cow elk calling as I moved. It was very quiet (no elk in the vicinity) when I suddenly heard a very loud groan/bellow. It didn't sound like a typical bull elk squeal, or groan, but I assumed it was a bull elk w/an unusual voice. I remained still listening/looking for a bull elk sneaking in. Then from behind me, and moving to my right, about 70 yards, was a large, white timber wolf. It's head was low, and moving steadily to my front. It did not look at me, but clearly knew I was there. Assuming it was part of a group, I quickly left the area. My aunt later told me seeing a white wolf in the wild is supposed to be big medicine. My only other Idaho wolf encounter was seeing an adolescent that was a more typical charcoal color.
@@libraryfiles4470 I've never heard of a wolf/wolves attacking people. However, while I lived in central Idaho wolves chased a young man I knew. It was late winter/early spring and he was looking for antlers that deer shed (deer shed them in mid-late winter). Evidently, (unbeknowst to him) he was near wolf den and when he ventured too close, the wolves "escorted" him away. Idaho Fish & Game officers investigated after he got back to town and reported the incident. They confirmed it happened just as he said. Obviously, wolves could chase down, and kill a human effortlessly if that was their intent. These chose to intimidate him rather than kill him. The Fish & Game officers surmised the wolves may have had new pups and the ones who chased him were the enforcers for keeping potential threats from getting too close to the pups.
@@MGE9436 I'm not exactly certain (as it's slang) (a way of stating something, or defining something using metaphor, or exaggeration) but, I think it's a way of saying powerful karma, or mysticism.
His chances of being killed by wildlife were higher than almost anyone else in the world, given his passion for the great outdoors, his confidence with wildlife and the sheer exposure he put himself in by being alone so often in the middle of nowhere. Very sad. I'm risk averse, and being eaten alive is one eventuality I am doing my darnedest to minimise the chances of occurring. RIP. He's hopefully having a beer with Steve Irwin ❤️
It's received plenty of attention. David Paulides covered it already, plus several other youtube channels have made videos about it. It's well known because it's one of the strangest cases ever related to Missing 411.
@@DIVISIONINCISION I mean obviously you’re a professional and all but I mean enough coverage like many of the more well known cases that have been on things such as … the national news, 20/20, ID channel. Stuff like that.
@@notchase1798 I agree- it’s like Roswell. Certain events receive a disproportionate amount of coverage,subject matter aside. Dennis Martin and certain other cases receive massive attention while others are ignored. Bart was not just “another hunter” or camper.
I am a resident of Whitehorse and due to my physical condition hunting trips are not high up on my priority list. My adult son however does bear, bison, sheep and moose hunts. A few times he has planned solo sheep hunts and I always talk with him about this case, Bart was an outdoor expert in every sense and in my opinion no bear did that to him, if Bart could handle himself in the wilderness with tigers then bears are moot. My son has always found a partner for these sheep hunts at the last minute but nothing makes me as nervous for him as a solo hunt in the mountains. Even though he always carries a sat phone and is armed (not a bow hunter) I never want him to go alone, I've read and heard too many horror stories, Dave Paulides is responsible for most, that was where I first heard Bart's story. A baffling and uneasy feeling engulfs me everytime I go over the facts of the case, I don't believe this was animal predation, there may have been some after the incident, scavenging and the like after, yes of course. Like this presenter said when a bear feeds on a human corpse they always ingest fragments of the clothing which can be found in the scat. Something strange happened to Bart out there in the wilds of Yukon Territory.
Being alone dramatically increases the odds that one will be attacked by a predator including human. If one is alone, be aware of it and take extraordinary precautions.
@@thegreatape884 Little salty there, I've never purchased a book of his and his TH-cam isn't huge. Frank Sinatra sung a song about folks like you, can you guess which one? I'll give ya a hint, J Phoenix. Most folks with missing family members want the most amount of attention they can get. There is no pleasing everyone and there will always be some doofus to poo poo something no matter how good it is.
Seriously, read the Yukon newspaper article, his bow and arrows were found together leaning on a tree, his skull and bones had teeth marks on them, his balaclava had blood, hair and tissue in it, bear scat recovered at the scene had human tissue in it and there’s no mention of half eaten food at the camp. He was attacked and eaten by a bear, it was October, bears are fattening up for winter, no mystery here.
Native American here, Cree. My mosom/grandpa always use to say there is no such thing as a professional in the woods, remain cautious and always do a turn around from time to time. He was a tradition hunter tracker, scouter and code talker from ww2. just goes to show that even a firefighter can die from fire.
I don’t care how much your a survival/animal “expert”. If your in the woods alone or with kids you ALWAYS have a firearm! You better with it and never needing it then you are needing it and not having it.
I don't care what ppl claim.....All ppl Professionals makes mistakes and get's killed from being "that" Professional. Never underestimate anything ! Bigfoot , Dogman, demons, etc..... are very real and out there.
Spot on. Humans are at a disadvantage in the wilds in which these animals have spent every day of their lives. We're never going to be stronger than a bear or quicker than a mountain lion. Firearms are the great equalizer. They give us a fighting chance, not the guaranteed outcome of safety and survival. Use tools for their intended purpose.
Alone is dangerous, but can be awesome too. I have hiked years alone inro the wilderness. Love the solitude of being out there just you and God creations. I have greater chance of being killed by a car then something in the woods. The concrete jungle is more dangerous than anything out in woods. That is where I feel safe and happy, but that is just me.
Nothing wrong with going alone if you have the right experience and equipment. And know what not to risk. The problems usually happen due to inexperience, inattention and bravado. Plenty of experts make basic mistakes, usually they are lucky. Not always
As an avid outdoorsman who's been skiing avalanche terrain, recreating and hunting in grizzly country, and various other "high risk" activities for 20 yrs solo, I respectfully disagree.
@@tr7938 I would have truthfully embellished lavishly on these statements if my intent was to brag or impress. I do apologize that my comment upset you and I hope you have a terrific day.
@a v I agree with you. It’s because they are government employees much like our fbi and they are NOT held accountable. If u even question them you end up in jail. In saying that, I think there are several really good cops in the rcmp, but their reputation is smeared by all the clowns that they work with and the politicians in charge of them. When all hell breaks lose it won’t matter, we’re all on our own. Just pray God is our only hope. Cops are mostly corrupt anyways.
@@silver-en7kl "when all hell breaks loose we're on our own" I think this is what everyone is waiting for.... to escape the tyranny of man. THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT AND THE SLAVES ARE MOST AWARE. I'll take my chances with the 🐻 🐻❄. Thank you. May the most high protect his saints. To live is Christ and to die is Christ.... amen brothers and sisters
Being an outdoorsman myself, for over 50 years, I would say that this man was ambushed by a bear. They stated that his dry bag was found in a willow/black spruce thicket, which would severely limit his field of vision. And lastly, they found part of his head, which didn't have evidence of a predatory attack. Really? I would say that by only finding part of his skull, that would point directly at a predatory incident.
bears dont take your pants off without tearing them or leaving blood on them. something strange got him while he was sitting up against a tree calling in a moose.nothing like a bear attack and none of the scat had human remains in it and if a bear was hungry enough to eat u he would of eaten the food in the camp and what was left on his plate.
So if he died of something else you don't think the the bears or wolves wouldn't eat his body? Like they said .. Bears don't take your pants off and his open lunch wasn't eaten and his container of food was untouched. People are so quick to think oh it was just a bear. When they don't even know bear behavior
I worked in northern BC, in the 90s and knew a trapper up there who was familiar with a huge grizzly bear, that was nicknamed Kong. Very rare to see these animals before theyve seen you. Very smart and cunning. All that was scene was his tracks, which were big enough for two size 12s hiking boots to fit in. He may have been hunted by such an animal. And they don't get this big from being careless or clumsy.
I am in grizzly country every day, we have at least six prowling our local neighborhood. It begins right outside my door. I carry spray and the right firearm whenever i'm in the surrounding woods. What i point out to people is that when it comes to "being prepared" in life, it is never 99% of the times you go out that you are preparing for. Don't let that number make you careless. People who are prepared are interested in that 1% or less of the times they are out. THAT's the number you are preparing for, always. That said, there are still no guarantees. On a long enough timeline in fact, regardless of what we prepare for in life or how well we do it, our individual odds of survival are 0%. You ARE gonna die. It's just a matter of how and when.
I am a retired Private Investigator with over 20 years under my belt and I have a Degree in Criminology. As a Private Investigator I would start by where he was at his campsite and start what Police would do, the process of elimination like was the fire still hot, how long was any food items left out to exposure of air, animals, or anything that would look suspicious like tracks of animals or human? Then you work your way from there. A campsite says a lot about what might be going on by the way it was left. I have read this story and I can say it probably wasn't an animal because it doesn't fit the narrative of the evidence. Also, the way they found his gear and other things just don't add up. This is one for the X files that is for sure. There are a lot of things in the woods that we still do not know about.
I agree. AS a Mercenary soldier we would dig up enemy dump sites or look at where they camped overnight to gather intel. What are they eating. Are they eating well. Are the wasting food what kind of food, who is the food supplied by...etc. Lots of intel to gather at a camp site. Im going with hypothermia though due to his cloths being removed.
Your wrong.....Many ppl do know about the existence of Bigfoot or Dogman, just it's kept Hush Hush. Private Investigator with 20yrs? Are you familiar with Dave Paulides, CanAm Missing 411???
Jim Fixx was also in great shape! As a retired homicide detective, I have handled several deaths that were natural or accident, where the body was then eaten by animals. Sometimes, several different animals.
My husband is a hunter, he loves hunting and I love that he hunts but i get so scared every year during hunting season because all the stories about hunters going missing or getting shot by accident
--- For 2 yrs, I lived in the little logging town of Canal Flats on the SE side of BC. Since I was an obvious "slicker", everyone took the time to warn me of wolves & bears & what to do if it crosses paths with me... I agree with you that if it was bear attack there would be more evidence, like ALL the food gone... Since the spot was so "clean" why couldn't a wolf have come to take the leftovers back to the den...but then there should have been more blood evidence if he was ripped apart! My heart suspects foul play...whether by live crazy humans or aliens, there was foul play! Happy trails, Ms. CharLee
I surely agree with you... there is soooo much more out there than what we know... I was a hunter for years.... there would be no food left there at all.... it’s very creepy any more when you think about what is in the woods!!!
Why do you always say things about the people on your videos that you cannot possibly have any idea about? You continually say how great these people are, and how kind and nice they are. You have no idea what kind of people they are or were. People die all the time because they hunt dangerous game. If you go after, or hike, camp or otherwise try to cohabitate around large predators alone and with no firearms, you will be killed and eaten by a large predator. Never, ever go out alone.
Though this is tragic, it is predictable. People who are experts are the most likely to be killed by animals. They are likely to be over confident because they are so experienced.
Interesting that the mask with blood and hair on it was so far away from everything else, with no signs of disturbance to suggest that the rest of him had been dragged away. Makes me think something happened to him and then he ran away, ripping his mask off and then his baseball cap (possibly a head/face attack due to the blood?). Another interesting thing is that an experienced outdoors man would never leave half eaten food out at their camp site either. Perhaps he left in a hurry, but I couldn't see him making such a basic error over a potential moose. What if something spooked him?
Other than the blood/hair on the mask there was no blood at the scene whatsoever. Even the piece of skull left had no tissue or blood on it. That's not natural. Scalp tissue would be remaining after 2 weeks. I agree that something spooked him, but no evidence of what/who.
I think he was eating, heard or saw a moose where his boat was found and grabbed his pack and bow and paddled over there. The bear may have already been stalking the moose Bart saw/heard and when Bart started making cow sounds the bear wisely moved in on him. But all of this took a while and Bart felt the urge to drop a deuce in the lake, which would explain why there was no kill site and why just the bow was found by the boat. Maybe he got off 1 arrow before the attack.
Squatch. He was chased out of his campsite by squatches. He took his boat, and bow, went aways away, perhaps to regroup, but they were tipped off to his existence by his two-week stay, and eventually got him. I don't think he was looking for moose on the last day he was to be retrieved.
A dogman is more of a possibility as it is a cold blooded predator. Hence, the wolf tracks found around his campsite. A Bigfoot would just try to scare and drive him out but not kill him.
I would look closer for a Game-Camera hopefully he had put one up? Squatches I believe is possiable. He may have been hidding out away from his tent with food in tent area ....baiting whatever was stocking him. Squatches started throughing Rocks at him while he took a swim as he hid out from his tent possiably?
It's always hard with little or confusing evidence because there's always exceptions to rules and we're not sure how it all fits together. He was an expert outdoorsman making him less likely to get into trouble but he also spent so much time out there that it makes him more likely for something to happen out there. He understands bears really well but he also frequents their territory so much it's slightly more likely that he has an encounter. Somehow he got the unlikely draw, I'm just not sure which one.
This has been happening since the early 1900's. I'm genuinely not trying to take away from the seriousness of this case, a great man lost his life in the northwest territory, and it just shows how dangerous this section of Canada can be, even for the most experienced. An area in the Northwest territory, pretty much in the center of it, was nicknamed headless Valley. Long story short people kept going to this area to find gold and hunt early 1900's, a high percentage of them never came back and when/if their bodies were found, they were found headless or dead of very very strange circumstances. It's pretty easy to find of you look it up, I encourage you to check it out! Such a tragic loss, it's sad to see people still losing their lives so violently out there today.
A native tribe that lived in the headless valley had broke contact with people not long before the killings. That tribe was also known to decapitate people. So ya know....
@@jimbob465 I hadn't heard about this! I'll have to look check it out. Could explain a lot when it comes to the burnt down cabin and charred body with wounds all over it, the clean decapitations, the terrifying calls that have been heard by multiple accounts, and so many other strange happening in the area. Truly creepy mystery.
Here's what I think happened. He was overly confident and left his bear spray because he had his arrows. He thought he'd be okay. Well, a grizzly did spot him and wasn't going away. It probably was hunting him for a few days and when he set his stuff up for the moose, it chased him. Not attacked but chased him! It killed him and ripped him to pieces but the site where they found his skull was not the kill site. The rest of his body was probably eaten and dragged off by other bears or wolves. A wolf den is very well hidden so his clothing and whatever else there was probably became buried in brush to never be seen again.
Never enter an animals domain without a large firearm for your own safety. It doesn't matter how much you've been taught about wild animals, You are not one, and we must respect them.
I beg to differ . I've met quite a few wild animals masquerading as Humans in my day.....Equally unpredictable, equally dangerous too. Sometimes i think we're safer with the ones out in nature lol.
No matter how fit, well versed and educated you're per wildlife and living in the woods; "wildlife" is born into it and it's in their nature to consume life to preserve their own. Life consumes life. Bart seemed like an amazing man, and many may call this a tragedy, but for me, he lived his life to the fullest and likely perished by the same thing he loved. There is no sin, nor indictment on the way his parting occurred, but rather their is memory to carry on his accomplishments and research.
Remember . Early humans that were experts in the wild, banded together for protection from getting eaten. They were way better then this fellow in the woods was having spent their entire lives in those woods learning from their fathers and grandfather's knowledge on living in the wild full of hungry animals. One rule first learned, never go anywhere alone. You will be eaten. Alone, there is no one watching your back. Whatever got him, may he rest in peace. His luck just ran out on him.
No matter how someone dies, people tend to want to make some great mystery out of it. I think it's only human to have a difficult time with acceptance. Also television has affected how people think about incidents such as this. It is very likely that it's as simple as Bart was attacked and killed by a wild animal. It is very sad and unfortunate. There are great risks involved and he knew this. No amount of training or experience will guarantee your safety. RIP sir.
Hi Bryan! You did a great job on this presentation and it does possess some curly questions. You mentioned that there was the possibility that he had a heart attack. That scenario may not be far off possible. He could have started having chest pain and as the pain of the heart attack continued he might have started walking. As his heart continued to decompensate, his oxygen levels would have fallen dramatically. He would have been really labouring to breathe, he would have been sweaty. He could have started to remove clothing as confusion set in with oxygen desaturation. He could have fallen and struck his head or face, hence the bloody mask. At 49, Bart might have had undiagnosed heart disease. He wouldn't be the first athlete to die suddenly and unexpectedly from undiagnosed heart disease. Although animal attack has not been ruled out, I didn't hear anything that suggested an attack by a person either. It seems, therefore, that a medical episode is at least as likely as either of the other two possibilities. This won't balm any of his familiy's and friends' hurt at his death. My thoughts and prayers are with them.
Good evening Bryan, This is just my opinion not fact. I really think he had a surprise attack by an animal(s)bears, wolves or any other large animal that eats meat in the Yukon. Remember the old saying "Even the best swimmers drown." He was not a God, he was not perfect ,he was just a man. I do think It was poor judgement to go to an area with animals that can eat you and not carry a gun for protection. A bow and arrow are great to hunt with, but for protection from a large animal ,Hell no. I think he was eaten not only by the large animals ,but by several types of scavengers in the Yukon. Clothes taste just fine for hungry animals. A person did not kill him. Everything of value was left behind. (except him) No food was taken , he still had all his expensive equipment on site. No human hurt Him. It is a sad story but one a read about often. A person very skilled in an activity, hobby etc....... is killed while they are doing the activity they know the most about. . (Like hiking)
Surely virgin wilderness, and he was alone in a place only accessible by plane. He thought nothing bad would happen to him. He was invincible. Very poor judgment. You don't go by yourself to grizzly, wolves territory by yourself, no firearms, to stay in that vastness two weeks. He had a death wish in my opinion. Something terrible happened to him. Supernatural entities took him, this is what I believe. Folded pants is a clue.
I agree with you. Everyone has their own preferences, but I personally would not be without a gun in a place like that, even if there are laws forbidding guns. I carry one anyway. I'd rather break the law than die from an attack by a large predator or a two-legged one. Bear spray is not enough.
That's a rather tragic story indeed. I truly hope there wasn't foul play involved in this, whatever it may have been. He was a handsome man. Regardless, none of this matters if there happens to be an angry grizzly bear in the immediate vicinity who is hellbent on getting you. I think he should have had a gun with him, as well. Bears will attack without notice from places you weren't expecting. He knew. I just hope it was pretty and less suffering. Be a good book or movie down the road... I'm sure there are all kinds of facets to his life that are amazing. RIP man.
Sounds to me like he was doin his business and was stalked and attacked. I can tell you first hand these big bears can be absolutely silent almost like a ghost that is all of a sudden there. It is amazing how quiet they can be. Bart never heard or saw it coming and at that point being unarmed succumbed to a brutal death in the jaws of an apex predator.
Had a buddy real pro bear had griz double back on him twice in one day and wait for him as he went back to his car at the end of the day,sitting silently on a ledge at the trail head as he walked by 10 ft away buddy decided to find a new hobby.
@@tomstulc9143 That was my first thought. They don't leave a damn trace and it's as fascinating as it is terrifying. A professor of mine in Montana said if a cat decides to kill you, you won't know till you're dead.
Just remember, when you venture out alone hunting, there’s always something else watching you . Sometimes it’s something unexplained that is watching you and hunts you down .
@@t.g.7180 not a funny joke sorry to say,look up NVTV he's got his own You tube channel and talks about all these mysterious deaths in national parks and rural areas in our 50 states even law enforcement has had encounters with these cryptid creatures,that for some strange reason prey on humans.
I remember when this happened and believe most experts concluded that he was killed by a bear, possibly a bear that was attracted by his use of a moose call. Bears are often attracted by calls. It can happen to anyone, regardless of experience.
Steve Irwin was also an animal expert and died of a freak animal accident. Things happen, even to experienced people. He died where he lived and I'm sure that is what he would have wanted.
Steve Irwin was hovering above a large stingray. A stingray is not violent and only has a spike at thr base of their tail as defense. The only thing g a stingray fear is a shark that eats stingrays. So Irwin decided to snorkel or scuba right above thr stingray looking like a shark to a stingray. Irwin is also known for poking animals and antagonizing them to get a reaction for TV. So the stingray stabbed in the chest. He would have survived if his buddies in the boat had left the spike in his chest but they pulled it out allowing massive hemorrhaging. This was the same "animal expert" who went walking around in a crocodile pit carrying his infant baby. If he had slipped or tripped or if any croc decided to rush at him, he and his baby would have been lunch. That was a numbskull stunt so I wouldn't classify him as any expert. An expert respects wild animals. Respects their abilities. And respects their capacity to harm.
he also like to sex animals and if you can see all the animals he's ever done that too they get quite uncomfortable I'm sorry but I don't care what kind of animal you are you don't want some weird animal touching your junk and that's exactly what he was doing in the video with a stingray he was trying to sex it like he always does Stingray was in perfect position to send the spine right underneath his rib cage into his heart that was totally his fault he did not need to know what the sex of that stingray was let's just be honest you could say it was for biology but does that really freaking matter well it should have mattered to him cuz he's not here anymore I just could not dig how he would just basically molest animals and it was okay no animal wants to be touched. like that
Nobody is surprised when a skydiver dies while skydiving. Or a race driver in a car accident. To me there is no mystery here. He was involved with wild animals it is only logical one of those killed him. The chance to get hit by a lightning is very small, but that’s because the exposure is minimal. Chase every storm on the planet and you certainly will increase the chance.
What is strange is how does nature produce a skull in less than a month? I live deep forest woods NE Washington state we have grizzly wolves black bears etc. I have had animals dead in my yard that takes weeks for the coyotes to pick clean than the magpies and other birds pick the rest off in months
Had an X Co-worker who lived out a bit further East of Cle-Elum, Bigfoot roams in her 20 Acres of land. Yep... Don't care what you think, It's real and they are out there!!
I lived in northern Alaska in the 70s, was an arctic survival instructor and spent a lot of time in the wilderness. One thing everyone knew back then: Don't go anywhere without a firearm. Going into the Alaskan or Yukon Territory wilderness with just a bow is like going to a gunfight with just a knife. Nothing against bow hunters. But having a firearm backup on you or being with someone who is armed and can back you up is a must.
So, here's one more scenario to consider:
It's September and Bart is going to an unfamiliar area to camp. Bears are feeding as much as possible before they go into hibernation. Bart walks away from his campsite to have a bowel movement (he would do that to keep the odor away from his camp--a bear can smell that from far off). A grizzly, that has established this area as his, has has been watching and tracking him from a distance. While Bart is in this vulnerable position, the bear attacks. It could have been a black bear, but they usually are only this aggressive when they are desperate to feed or protecting cubs. And they usually leave a messy kill site. A grizzly would kill, eat a small amount and cache the rest (or camp out on it until consumed). You wouldn't find that much left.
Finding a portion of the skull means something cracked it. Three animals live in that region that are capable of breaking a human skull: bear, wolf and wolverine. They often will break bones and not leave a mark on the bone. Which usually means it happened during or right after the kill. The skin and muscle will often diffuse the bite pressure so there is a break but the teeth marks are all in the tissue. That leaves out wolves and wolverines. Wolves leave a large bloody kill site because they are pack hunters. The wolverine would be feeding on what was left. So, most likely a grizzly.
Or it could have happened differently. But I believe he was setting himself up for failure when he went out there unarmed.
Remember Steve Irvin--you can risk injury or death with large animals for years and get away with it. Until one day, when the odds catch up with you.
His passing is a loss for us all. The information he passed on to researchers advanced their understanding of the animals in the regions he frequented. Very sad.
Anyway, hope this helps. Thanks for shedding light on the premature demise of this genuine Man of the Wilderness. Cheers.
Gus, excellent comments regarding what could have occurred. It is unfortunate
that Bart chose to go into areas where inaccessibility and difficulty are the norm.
By what was stated relating to his experience he surely should have known that
having a firearm is something that clearly makes common sense. A firearm is a
part of someones kit and is a tool that should be used if needed. The responsibility in having training and becoming competent with it rest with the person possessing it. Much too frequently individuals possess firearms in which they either lack the training or have limited knowledge of their operation and use. In the case of being in areas where there are dangerous animals it is clear that a person must have the means to protect oneself. In this case a bow does not suffice as a weapon that will do the job quickly and efficiently.
Take care.
You forgot about the fourth animal? A Squatch...💀
That is a logical and chilling theory. Your writing on this indicates you have vast knowledge of the wilderness in that neck of the woods
What about Bigfoot...you left that out ?
Always got to have a gun to take doen those bears!!
My friend, my son and i went fishing with Bart and his son in the Talkeetna river for kings. He fished for 8 hrs and never caught a fish. He was such a kind and patient man. I was so impressed with his attitude. Never got mad or upset. He said that's the way it goes sometimes in fishing. . I admired him. So sad what happened
To be free it will kill. God given rights are real and not just animals have them.
@@jasonstewart3748 To be free, it will kill? Lack of freedom will kill as well.
@@texasrose2315 "freedom is purchased with violence"
Gerald: Bart sounds like a nice guy. It is truly unfortunate that he met with such a
tragic end. People can always say: would have, could have, should have, but the
reality is that many things can occur. Whatever happened, I hope that he passed
quickly and did not suffer. This is something that we must all hope for and about when our time comes to an end. If things had been different or had changed, then he might still be with us today. I wish him well on his path to God.
This is all that any of us can ask.
Take care!
@@jasonstewart3748 not necessarily, only if the masses believe the propaganda. There is strength in numbers. That is why the government, The controlled media reports fear? Wake up.
Two words, Timothy Treadwell. When what was left of him was found after the grizzly bear attack all that was left part of his head and spine and his left arm from the elbow down, nothing else, no messy kill site, no rustled ground. Most likely scenario and explanation for the pants being off is he was probably using the bathroom and was attacked while in that vulnerable position by a grizzly that was probably stalking him, bears are smart and they will wait until you are in a vulnerable position and will sneak up and be on you before you have a chance to do anything r egardless of how experienced of an outdoorsman you are you are no match for a grizzly.
Sounds about spot on & I reckon any grizzly would see a seasoned woodsman to be a challenge..
Like any prey🤷♀️
Him and his girlfriend!
Oh that was horrific the way Tim and his girlfriend died. Very sad 😥😞
Clarkee P. Thanks for
Saying that about
Timothy, I was thinking
The same thing.
I thought they found Treadwell's entire lower body with one thigh eaten down to the femur which resembled a chicken drumstick that's been eaten to the bone? I could be wrong but if you google Timothy Treadwell remains photo's that picture comes up on multiple different websites and papers that wrote articles about the event.
I’ve spent a lot of time in the Yukon bush (unarmed), and I have had bears come up on me, and out of 3, only one made a noise. They can be silent.
Extremely silent. I was in copper harbor Michigan in the early years of my training. About 1998, I was bow hunting about 2 miles in, just sitting at my camp enjoying the beauty of Michigan's upper peninsula and out of no where, dead leaves sticks and everything we would normally associate with the sound of an animal walking through the brush was all around me, a giant black bear pushing 500 pounds or more suddenly appeared ten yards away. It was as if the animal had learned to place his feet where they would be as quiet as possible. A clear hunting strategy. They are canines after all. Smart adaptable animals.
And deadly.
Full of shit !!!
I remember reading a story in "Outdoor Life" magazine. There was a problem with a wild grizzly. The government decided to hire some "expert hunters" to track and kill the bear. One was working a hot trail. Unknown to him the bear had circled backed and climbed on to top of a large brush pile. As the hunter passed the bear reached down and swatted him in the head. According to the story, the force of that "swat" exploded the hunter's head.
The thing that gets me in most of these cases is ALL the experts consulted, very few mention the real expert, the animal itself.
Score one for the bear! lol
yes..more people are killed by cars than bears
@@paulcorradini1662 Because there are more cars, lots more?
Exploded his head? I call BS on that, claw it appart sure.
@@bojangles2492 Have you ever seen what a .30 caliber bullet does to a human head? Call bs after you have.
Back in the day when people read actual magazines "Field & Stream" & "Outdoor Life" were like the Bible of hunting and fishing. It wasn't like the internet where you have to verify everything.
Ive been a diehard bow hunter for years... Ive never been in the bush without my sidearm. You don't get a second chance .
I agree.
@Tonya Harmon absolutely Tonya... Alot to learn from these stories.... Thx for the shout out.
And a BACKUP sidearm!
@@zeebest1004 yep... Not worth the risk
Amen! People should be armed everywhere they go. A firearm can be the difference between life and death, especially for women and other vulnerable people.
I am originally from Southeast Asia and I can relate. The tropical jungles in my part of the world are full of things that can make your trip into the jungle a very short one. Pythons, crocs, bears, tigers, leopards, wild dogs.. you name it. Plus a plethora of leeches, blood sucking insects, spiders, scorpions, centipedes, poisonous plants. Not to mention poachers, smugglers, traffickers. It's a very unpleasant environment tbh.
Yes even small thing can kill you, like a Mosquito. Everything can kill you in wilderness even if you're an expert.
@@ivanakhid3333 yeah, I don’t see a guy showing a bear his phd’s and the bear then apologizing to him and go looking for food elsewhere, lol…wild animals can be unpredictable. No matter how much you have studied them and think you know them they are wild and if they are hungry and bigger and stronger than you are they will eat you.
Your part of the world has also wonderful sights to behold !
Beautiful and enriching experiences to be had !
Worth mentioning too 👍😍
Sounds like a lovely place to retire, I'm on my way!
I’m not afraid of forests but jungles are a whole other matter. Going alone into the wilderness is a huge mistake regardless of experience.
Yesterday I took my Rottweiler out to a small town surrounded by mountains and rivers in Alaska. It was a stunning day without a cloud in the sky. There was fresh snow and it was so beautiful. I was listening to a podcast as I walked the banks and noticed several eagles nests. It was beautiful and I walked towards them. I realized the podcast I was listening to described a female who was murdered next to a river bank by someone that had been watching her from the woods. As I neared the eagles nest, I noticed a blue color in the trees and was able to make out a tent. Then I realized I was being watched. Even with my gun and big dog, be aware. I thought I was alone out there. If I hadn’t been listening to the podcast, I don’t think I would have noticed.
You're never alone!
Where did the murder happen? Was it publicized?
You are NEVER alone in the woods, ever. Be armed and always be prepared.
What happened after you noticed you were being watched?!?!?!? Did you see him? Was he following you? Did anyone fire a shot? What happened? How close was this person?
CREEPY!!! Stay safe and NEVER let your guard down.
Some additional details, only the remains of one meal was found, the rest remained in its case, so the bear had seemingly attacked him on his first day at the lake unless he had caught some fish, either way the attack happened not long after he'd been there.
His remains had been scavenged and spread out for nearly two weeks, that's why it didn't look like a typical grizzly kill site. The reason no grizzly cache was found was because again it had been at least 10 days since the attack occurred. Furthermore the only predictable thing about grizzly behavior is how unpredictable it is.
When blood is found on his clothing and human remains are found in the grizzly scat, it is not a mystery what occurred. There is nothing mysterious about his death. Occam's Razor tells us if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck it isn't a hippopotamus. He was clearly killed by an animal. No evidence of a cougar attack, no evidence of a wolf attack, ample evidence of a grizzly attack.
Schleyer had once called in a grizzly on himself while calling moose and this is most likely what happened. It got in close in the dense brush and struck too fast for him to do anything. He was very experienced (to say the least) and was prepared, they are just that fast and ruthless.
If you live in grizzly country you will have heard dozens of stories of their incredible intelligence when it comes to stalking and sneak attacking humans. No one is safe when they decide to do this. They will drop cubs off in hiding and circle back around, wide around, taking up to an hour to do so, and sneak up behind you on the trail.
I appreciate that you do not alter facts to make things more 'mysterious'. Unfortunately David Paulides of Missing 411 has a lot of listeners and in his video on Bart Schleyer he states that no blood was found on any clothing and that the bear scat did not show any signs of human remains, both statements are demonstrably false. He does this quite often. Thanks for not doing that.
Thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed explanation, very well done, I most definitely appreciate it!
It doesn't matter how experienced you are, that doesn't mean you can't make a mistake, or have some unfortunate accident.
Hopefully he died quickly, big cats are known for this also, quick and violent outbursts. People tend to forget that the mindset at the moment changes the perspective of the facts completely, maybe he wasn't in a good mindset and that led to his demise. I think the bear mauled him and crushed the head with its weight.
I like the racks, not bs to heighten up the story. I hunted the Maine woods 40+ years now a lot of unexpected things happened. I am corniced of a surprise Grizzly attack.
No clothing or human remains were ever found in the bear scat it wasn’t a bear.
I used to go to wild and away places, always felt self assured I could deal with anything. Several times I encountered sketchy people and had animals walking around my tent at night, heard some grunts, sniffing, scratching… I kept quiet and silent, so did my smart big pit bull and I always stayed the remainder of the days intended. But one day went to explore a new area and as soon as got there, an uneasy feeling overwhelmed me, (I believe the Holy Spirit alerted me) … I felt vulnerable, being alone (didn’t have my dog), no gun and getting into the evening hours… I didn’t see of hear anything but my whole body felt kind of numb, I left and hiked my way back to my truck. Although I continue camping in remote areas, never visited that area again. There are definitely lots of peace and beauty but also weird things out there in the wild .
@@thebibleisaxiomatic8178 Probably I’d have not seeing anything but not being able to have a peaceful night either. It is good to “listen” when warned of weird of dangerous situations. I’ve been spared from many of those, that’s why I have learned to just simply follow the “warnings”.
@@julesgardet659 - Always listen to your gut instinct ... I was hiking up a side canyon of the Colorado trying to find some hot spring. All of a sudden I got a urgent "warning" in my head saying get back down to the river! I ran back just in time to grab my kayak as the water level rose from a dam release. Always tied up after that.
Yup I've been there before, I fish in really remote places and went alone quite often, but there was a certain area I went that each time I went there I had this very uneasy feeling, after the second time I never went back to that place, don't know why but something was telling me to get away from there, never had that feeling about any other spots I went
I have had those numb pulses hit me before. Yeah, seek a safer place.
Dada hatch maybe
Most people really underestimate how dangerous the wilderness is here in Canada. I live in a large city surrounded by mountains. Many tourists don't understand that the moment you step out of the city and into one of the mountains you are right away in bears or cougars territories. Even the suburbs aren't safe from the bears especially in fall.
When I was a kid in BC our neighbor (an old man) was mauled by a cougar. He was hurt but survived
Yeah I live here, love the mountains and camping but I feel extremely vulnerable sleeping in a tent in the wilderness. 99% of the time I camp now I sleep in the back of my 4x4 suv . I've ran into black bear and cubs once during the day and would never want to be laying on the ground woken up in the middle of the night by a bear .
Hyperphagia. Wrong time to be outside of a vehicle
Personally from what I've seen in recent years about Canada it won't be on my visit list
Sounds like Vancouver and absolutely step out of the city even to Capilano park and you are in the wilderness and anything can happen.
for anyone to say "the least likely event is a bear attack" a bear could have taken a single swipe at him and took his jaw off or fractured his skull. One swipe and your switch is turned off. No struggle. No playing dead. It makes pretty good sense to me.
No bear came forward to confess, so it's clearly aliens.
@@heinzriemann3213or big foot or dog man
As a lifelong hunter & former guide, their is things in the mountains that can kill you in a heartbeat, doesn't matter how prepared, or how much knowledge you think you have
It actually does matter how prepared you are. If you constantly have a high caliber magnum as a side arm(44 Caliber or 50 Caliber D. Eagle) and stay hyper-alert at all times, then there's *NO* reason for you to get killed.
@@LIQUIDSNAKEz28 lol life isn't like a movie where you can snap off a headshot on a 40mph charging animal like it's nothing, having a gun doesn't automatically make you impervious to everything.
@@savannahkorben7353 true but it definitely helps.... Just the sound of a firearm usually will send Bears and other animals running.... And definitely the bear spray
@@kendalgreene8688 certainly isn't something to lay your life on, they can also ignore both gunfire and bear spray and take you down. Apex predators are dangerous no matter what we have on us, nothing's guaranteed.
wtf is killing you tho?
What stuck out the most for me was the fact that remnants of his dinner were left in camp. Even I know to never leave food lying around a campsite & I’m from LA! Something strange happened at his campsite IMO.
Another "Move fast" scenario. Maybe a run for your life moment?
But... why wasnt any of the food eaten?
Good observation. ( I’m old, what does IMO stand for?
@@kathymyers7279 BTW (by the way), IMO = in my opinion & IMHO = in my humble opinion 😉
@@kathymyers7279 Sorry but I bet I’m older than you. It means in my opinion. 😂
Things happen to even experts. We are not immune to nature. I always enjoy your programs, Bryan. You present each case so well.
Thank you Diane and yes! No one is immune! It's just so weird! Thank you for your feedback and your support 🙏
"I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all."
A bear is much more quiet than what most people think. A predatory bear can be extremely quiet when stalking. My husband was in his small tent reading. A black bear "sneaked up on him" to scratch at his backpack that was next to him just outside his tent. The scratching was the only thing he heard. It was quiet with no wind and lots of dry crunchy leaves. Thank God it ambled off when he yelled at it.
And thank God it wasnt a grizzly
No matter How much experience a person has for the outdoors you never go in the woods without a gun .
I agree.... there are things in the woods we have no control over and know nothing about... a gun is an equalizer, and could save your life!!! Everytime I step foot in the woods, there is a 12gage pump fully loaded on my back.....
We aren't all American...
@@sirandrelefaedelinoge yes your right. I apologize. If you cannot access a firearm, you need a machete, or a big knife, anything you can protect yourself with.
@@sirandrelefaedelinoge Canada does it too.
Lots of parks were you cannot have your gun in Canada so I carry double can of bear spray and two knifes one big one emergency small
The cases you feature on your channel are always interesting and, at times scary. But this one is deeply disturbing. Truly!
I will say a bear as in a mother bear watch that movie Revenant I think that is the name. It shows a bear attack without food on site and eating a human being would not make the camp meal as a snack. I would think the bears appetite was filling. Sorry to be so blunt. But that was also the case of yet another man who did not take his ride out by plane asap....did not want to return to cement city. Even though he was familiar with a few bears he certainly was not with all. So to say in bear country there is no supermarkets out there. These men love nature however fending for oneself can create cannibalism as a bear starving it makes sense. The man who was attacked by the Bear had always a video on with sound and his girlfriend had left yet on other reports she was there. A report said to her from one that the sound on the video you do not want to listen to. It is quite disturbing of her boyfriend being attacked by a unknown bear he was not familiar with.....and as the story goes how many times will a man think a bear will just pull up a stool and join him at the campfire totally crazy and in areas that are full of mother bears and the males too.
It's clear Bart went into the woods countless times without a firearm, which gave him confidence that he was safe without one. It's probably safe to say that if you have a firearm with you, you'll likely never have to use it in self-defense. However, bad luck is a numbers game and if you do something risky often enough one day you're gonna draw the short straw. And if you're not prepared for that unlikely event, you're history. Bart's vast experience and knowledge gave him a false sense of security.
Bear spray much more effective than a gun against bears. Unless you got a Desert Eagle, or a shotgun with slugs, or explosive ammo. You don’t get more than a couple trigger pulls, where bear spray is a cloud that blinds them.
Some crazy person probably killed him. A lot of crazies live out in remote locations.
Well stated
I’d take the gun then to deal with the crazy … I’m leaning on side of like above …
Your never an expert .. you can know a lot but nature & timing is boss .. real shame but just think bear … respects to all . 😘
@@tomd4748 True, bear spray never fails unless there are high winds.
"bad luck is a numbers game and if you do something risky often enough one day you're gonna draw the short straw" Agreed, 99.9 percent safe means its a certainty that given enough time luck runs out.
My old man was a great outdoorsman. He used bows and rifles but always took his 44 mag on his side. I remember asking him if it was for the bears. And he said, man even the deer can kill you.
even the deer can kill you.....that is the most sensible answer...
True and deers grow their own weapon basically so your dad was a wise man
Deer probably kill way more of us than bears do, especially if you count car wrecks. If a bear had antlers it'd be a Beer.
Why is “old man” a euphemism for a father and boyfriend/husband? Very confusing…
@@alexmartin3143 I agree, something that confused me growing up, as children take things literally...a lover being called Baby etc. I think it is like the old days when a couple became parents and would call one another "Mother" or "Father". My Old Man is a husband, and Old Lady a wife -- settled into a life together, regardles of age.
I have lived most of my adult life in the Canadian Rocky mountains of Alberta, guiding, hunting, hiking, camping etc. so I am familiar with life in the bush.
Strange things happen in the wilderness and there is no way of knowing the reasons for the anomalies in this case, but one thing is for sure, its wild country and no matter how well prepared and trained you may be, it can (and occasionally does) kill you.
from what i learnt from these sort of videos is u have to be a brave hard human to go into the wild alone . respect to these people
Even if he was attacked, not the place you want to break a leg or have a heart attack.
You end up donating your body to nature somehow.
He put himself in situation,we shouldn't have to pay for others people's stupidity
@@raycastel9473 if u crash ur car should i have to help you? people pay tax for rangers or charities. so dont be a ass hle
Because we don't belong there.
I think 'well renowned expert or well supplied' doesn't matter sometimes in a remote location. Predators are in charge in those areas. All it takes is one little moment of stupidity or non-vigilance to become the prey.
Yes, I totally agree. And I have seen other video's where dogs, wolves and bears have completely removed the pants from the victim but shaking the hell out of them. Sometimes Nature wins the fight and the grizzlys will scatter the evidence. They didn't care for the food in the container bcuz the poor guys body was enough. So sad and one of the worst ways to go. R I P.
I went through my stage of going to somewhat remote places. I don't do it anymore because a couple times I sat there and said "what if you did fall". Even on a little hike in france, I got into trouble but wasnt to far from my car as weather coming in and freezing everything quickly. I got cold.
Then im Spain. I laughed when I saw a bear sign in a remote trail parking spot. 20 feet down the trail they had another sign. You see them everywhere in Europe but you rarely see big game. A short walk down the trail I saw a fresh track and felt I was being watched. I went back to the car.
@@theodoresmith5272 The signs are there becuz the game wardens have seen them. The bears are running out of food resources and will smell a human before a container of food. The videos that I've seen have mauled people to be unrecognizable, and they tried every tactic to thwart them off. Better to be safe than sorry.
This is the truth, a mix of bizarre and reality.
@@floridagal150 we will never know but several scenarios are most likely. when I was in Alaska, the moose were more dangerous then bear. They said he was hunting a moose. With a bow in that landscape it often under 20 yards. The moose are huge and a charge could have wounded or even killed him out right so it wouldn't leave bear attack signs in the part of the head they found. Im sure bears and/ or other scavengers would have made him go away in a few days.
I'm going to say he didnt end up in the water which is usually my 1st suspect when there is a good size body of it around. 2nd exposure. Nope. So that leave 3rd a natural event, could he have been hit by lightning because its not lile he got caught in a mud or snow slide, flash flood, or anything like that. So
Something killed him.
Take your pick bear, moose or wolves.
Then they ate him and so didnt other animals right down to the ants that will hide the evidence.
They said that the first guys that went to search for him got really bad vibes when they searched his camp.. Wierd shit..
Any link or interview
I've been studying ursus horribulus and canis lupus for 40 years. Specifically bear and wolf attacks. It's pretty obvious there are only three main causes of his death, he either had 1. an internal fatal crisis event or 2. he was the victim of a bear attack or 3. He was the victim of a wolf attack. My guess is that it more than likely happened when he grabbed his bow, got into his boat and went to call a moose that he may have seen across the shore somewhere. He may have walked down to the water to rinse off some pots and pans and seen a moose on the distant shore and ran back up to his campsite and grabbed his bow and some quick supplies and took a quick paddle over there. Stopped, ran up and wanted to see if he could call the moose back. And that right there could have either brought in the bear or the wolves. Didn't bring a handgun or rifle with him and that's it. Even if he brought a handgun or a rifle which he didn't but even if he did it's possible a grizzly still could have got him as is all too common with hunters not having time to shoot and kill a charging grizzly. But for me his biggest mistake was going in to grizzly country number one, alone and without another experienced armed hunter. And number two he went in alone in grizzly country during hyperphasia which is obviously the time of year that grizzlies are ravenously eating everything and anything they can to put on weight for the winter. You never go into deep grizzly country during hyperphasia without being on high high alert always having plenty of firepower on you with other people around you with plenty of firepower. Finally, just because there's no sign of a struggle on the ground doesn't mean that there wasn't sign of a struggle that is later covered up by the elements whether it's a hard rain that repacked the soil down or maybe there just wasn't signs of a struggle, that doesn't mean there wasn't one. It also doesn't mean that it wasn't wolves either that could have got him. For over 20 years from my Early childhood into my teens and young adulthood I defended wolves believing that attacks on humans were very rare. However with the emergence of the internet and access to more information I soon discovered that was not the case and that there are many many reports of wolves attacking and killing human beings being the opportunist that they are. But either way grizzlies don't always go for the head. They will pin you down and just start eating your leg and they absolutely will rip your pants off to get to the flesh. They eat you alive unlike wolves that have the natural instinct to go for the throat and dispatch its prey quickly to avoid the prey from struggling or getting away. So it's possible either wolves or bears got him.
wow, thank you
Really!!!! Well I don't believe that stupid outrageous senario at all , simply because everyone such as yourself are too damn quick to blame nature or the wild animals instead of sticking to the very simple and.rather obvious expaination ; which is that he was killed or murdered by one or more persons who either knew him and where he was going or some stranger or strangers who were already up there waiting to ambush and murdered anyone that they.came across and they did!!!!! And. by the way you were right in saying that he should've never went up there alone and without a gun or rifle etc !!!!????!
But no bear came forward to confess so it's clearly aliens.
@@heinzriemann3213 LMAO
You should never go alone no matter how good you are with knowledge of the wilderness. You are safer in numbers
Yes, bring Smith and Wesson along for sure!
No matter how experienced he was, if he went out there with no firearm, he had clearly become cocky or complacent... Anyone THAT skilled and knowledgeable in the woods would NEVER go to that region without a side arm of some sort. For outdoorsman or any other hobby that comes with risks.... Complacency Kills. There has been 1 black bear spotted within 4 miles of where I deer hunt. It was spotted 4 years ago and had 2 cubs with it. To this day, I do not walk to my tree stand without a side arm. Period. Just better to be safe than sorry.
I was friends with Bart for a season. He was amazing when it came to knowing about animals. I thank God for our time. I will see him again someday in heaven.
What was he like
Sorry for the loss of your friend:( Do you believe it was a bear attack? Sorry again for your loss and thoughts and prayers for you and Bart's family & everyone who knew him.
definitely sounds like a missing 411 story. where items were found where people had previously searched, as well as the horrible weather at start ending any type of search. some weird stuff for sure
I remember hearing this from the missing 411 stories and it always amazed me how people think just because someone is an expert or prepared that it automatically means they can’t be killed doing what they do. You’re out in someone else territory you aren’t safe no matter how versed you are in it
Then again, why is everyone assuming he was killed? The guy could've had a stroke and been eaten later. The part about his tent and supplies being untouched definitely doesn't suggest a bear.
@@joshuagross3151 the bears shit where he died. Whether they killed him or not, they were there, and they didn't eat the food. It's almost as if animals don't always do everything you assume they will.
It's like all those professional MA fighters who get stabbed & KILLED in some pointless & random Bar fight...
@@Guts3570 EXACTLY. People tend to think too often that animals always will operate in a manner you think you they will. They occasionally act JUST as unconventional as US!
This is what struck me, too often in these "mysterious" cases the argument against the most likely things that kill people in the woods is "but they were super duper experienced." Yeah, but people are dumb and we all make mistakes. This guy's mistake was overestimating his skills and equipment.
I found easy explanations for the majority of the "Missing 411" cases and this one too. I like how the 411 guy did note that a lack of a firearm on the person was a correlated factor to disappearance.
I'm an experienced outdoorsman, familiar with topo maps and land nav from my time as a paratrooper, and all my experience and training has ever taught me is just how easy it is to get turned around and lose your bearings or how fast a reliable piece of equipment can fail you.
I've read alot about Grizzly attacks and one thing is sure - they are unpredictable and wild. You never know if they are going to go for the head, or the groin. They found Tim Treadwell's arm without a defense wound on it. And he was attacked in the groin first, not the head. So you never know where the bear decides to grab you. And once he attacks, it will cache what they don't eat. So it's possible that this poor guy was attacked, and even cached and the dinner never touched since the bear had enough. I think this case proves that no matter how much you know about bears, you still can never predict them. And you will never, ever, be safe around them in their territory. Never. It will catch up with you sooner or later.
Your scenario sounds the most real. Wow bears are dangerous !
@@speteydog2260 Most of the time they'll leave you alone, but this guy went out in late September, the end of the feeding time and right before hibernation, so the sickly bears are out trying to forage anything they can to put on weight for the winter - and if that means easy pickings with a human, then so be it. Tim Treadwell made the same mistake. For a guy who knew a lot about wildlife, he must have known he was taking a big risk going so late in the season.
Well said. The bear most likely buried the body somewhere.
It was never stated that tim treadwell was attacked first in the groin ? Wtf lol
@@joshuacruz4244 He was actually attacked in the head, then the groin, to which he was dragged away from the camp and devoured. Judging by the description of his panicked mouth and expression: Treadwell was aware he was being eaten alive.
Not long after, the bear returned and devoured his girlfriend, Amy.
Bears do not have natural predators. They are not like most predators that may be deterred, or warred by another animal.
Being killed by a bear is terrifying. You either are found "peacefully" sleeping, with just an arm and part of your head remaining; or you are found with an agonizing look of fear, and pain, with just an arm and part of your head remaining.
All in all, my rant is to say simply: never go into the woods without a weapon or deterrence for the apex predator in the area.
I survived a bear attack five years ago. I got away from the bear and her Cubs. Eleven months later I returned to the site with large carnivore biologists where we discovered the entire skeleton of the elk I was attempting to retrieve. Intact. The bears never returned to it. Bears are the apex predator. Always. Bears are unpredictable. They will do what is natural until they don’t.
Glad you survived the attack and went back to the scene to investigate.That had to be eerie! Wishing you the best!
Your last line...truer words never spoken. A bear can't be something it's not.
sasquatch is the apex
My AK47 tells me I'm the apex..
@@leevancleef451 finally someone with common sense
Imo, the most compelling evidence here of something extraordinary happening is that his food remained untouched. The rest can reasonably be somehow explained though improbable--they were yet possible events. But a bear's entire Natural design, unimprovable I might add, it's whole reason for being and the unending laser like focus of it's existence is one thing: to sniff out food and scarf it down with greedy, insatiable intent. Perfect scripting call, btw, on leaving that point for last and I totally agree. As soon as you said that I was like, "Whoa." I'm no bear expert but I know Nature and that's not how she operates. It seems a virtual impossibility that food remained untouched. And antecedent to that the alleged bear would have had to surprise a man universally-regarded as the very pinnacle of achievement across so many fields and disciplines of Biology and wildlife that I lost count, THE premier mountain man of his day--everyone is fallible but I find that extremely unlikely. Just bizarre. And such a seemingly warm and genuine man. Such a life lived of frankly jaw-dropping skills, knowledge, and achievement and just basic decency is a rare and beautiful thing, I must say. 🙏❤️☯️
I was an avid outdoorsman, and spent summers in Alaska. The most experienced hunting guide/tracker/hunter I knew had a lot of stories where he was overwhelmed, outwitted, or survived by the Grace of God and good luck alone. In my personal experiences in the backcountry alone, there were many times where one inch left or right and a rattler would have struck me, or I would have fallen off a ridge, or break my leg. Life is full of inconceivable circumstances that even the best of us did not foresee. I'm guessing this gentleman knew this and placed himself in a position to encounter dangerous unexpected events. That's part of the wonder of the wilderness/wild. Some of us tend towards settling down with a family and life in the suburbs (especially with spouses who prefer city life) , but still understand things happen to the best of us. I doubt there is that much of a mystery here. As many have said, bear country includes apex boars who cachet even large moose, caribou, elk. A man would be easy to cachet. I've seen bear cachet mounds 3 meters high. Quite easy to store one man there.
When it's your time, well, then times up.
Going out there alone ? No ! That's rule number 1 . Don't go out there alone ! Rule # 2 bring you at least Winchester 3030
I saw a TH-cam video a few days ago & commented on one part in which 2 men appeared to be about 30yards away from a bear that lay down facing away from them. The men were focused on a bag on the ground. I wrote they were too close & focused on a bag instead of the bear. Well he responds he's been an Alaskan hunting guide for 10yrs & the bear in the shot looks close bcz telephoto compression & I shouldn't talk what I don't know bcz I never been around bears. He says not all bears are aggressive & he's been within 10yards of some. I apologized though he would have know the telephoto would have that appearance as being much closer. I didn't respond further, but I see how "expert guides" get into trouble if they think it's OK to be 10yards from a wild bear. Nobody needs to be an expert or around bears to know that.
Alaska has zero snakes thanks for the tall tale
Those bear cachet’s are almost as full of 💩 as you
At 8:25 in this has animal stalking and attack written all over it. Often that exuberant love of animals causes overconfidence in their habitats. Backcountry Alaska without both a rifle and high caliber handgun, worn chest rig accessible, is just not a good idea. God bless him. Prayers for his family & loved ones
Whatever happened to this man. He died in the place that he clearly loved. Rest in peace.
Such a good way to look at it, ya sexy mama. Lol
The fungular tentacles of heinousness spread rapidly across this poor man in the deep forest and took him away...
I’d be willing to bet in that moment he hated nature.
I believe they know what they are facing as well. So agreed, died doing what he loved. Probably not the plan, but still.
I don't want to die doing what I love. I want to live doing what I love. And dying sure is going to ruin it for you so I don't think he died thinking, "Boy, this isn't so bad, at least I'm enjoying my hobby while dying horribly". This is just one of those platitudes used by people to try and make everything seem like a back-handed victory, but it's meaningless and a way of whistling in the dark
I went to school with Bart. He was definitely a mans man. 6’2” 220 build like brick house He was very handsome but very humble. He lived in Culbertson Hall Dorm on the “animal floor”. His nickname was Wolverine because he was absolutely the toughest of the tough. I always admired Bart and looked up to him both for his physical prowess as well as his humble nature. His loss will resonate with many people, friends, classmates, researchers, etc. Rest in peace Wolverine🙏🏻🙏🏻
What makes his death strange is that there was only a piece of his skull found with no human tissue on it. No other remains. He was only gone a couple weeks. What has the power to break a skull apart and where are the rest of the bones? Where are the rest of his clothes? There's evidence that bears ate his remains, but no evidence that they killed him. His food at the camp site was untouched. Way too strange to be a natural death.
I agree
There are incredibly dangerous creatures that exist in the wilderness of this planet that we are unaware of.
@@claymac7895 like cryptids? I’ve heard Bigfoot’s not the only one out there, and that there are far more dangerous creatures.
There is no evidence that any animals at all (bears wolf's squirrels) ate his remains or what even happened to the remains. Nothing at all in any poo piles cloths or bones to indicate animals did anything!
Bears ate his body but not the food he had storage ? How come ? Bears have excellent sense of smell
After reading all these comments I consider being alive a miracle. I never took a firearm on my solo backpacking trips, it was part of the "thrill". My only defense was bear spray, Bowie knife and my spear if I ever had an uneasy feeling about the area. I did experience my share of near death experiences due to sudden weather change, rattle snake encounters, slip and falls. Also bears, and cougars stalking me. Waking up to cougar piss right outside my tent. I stopped once my wife became pregnant.
That’s when most men stop their risky behaviors. I know i did
Bear spray is surprisingly effective, but it won't help if you're pounced before you can reach it.
@@mrspeigle1 Or if the wind is blowing against you.
@@mrspeigle1or if it’s a Momma Bear with her cubs, she will charge through it
the bear attack didn't have to be for food. if he had only a bow and arrows (did not carry a gun), its hard to defend with that against a surprise bear attack. It was fatal mistake not to bring a gun into wilderness.
Idk what people are thinking, i travel on a motorcycle and carry a gun on my person, you never know where you'll pull off or break down. Murderers, creeps, rapists, wild animals. You just never know.
d mx: You are correct. Even carrying a bow and being an expert with it cannot
make up for carrying a heavy caliber handgun for a back-up weapon. This
can make the difference between life and death. I am a veteran of the U.S.
Army Special Forces and we always operated in teams. This ensures safety
and provides for better over watch. We were on a mission in the Brooks
Range in Alaska and the parameters involved team cohesion. This is especially
true when facing the unknown. It is unfortunate that Bart lost his life and the
answers as to why or what killed him cannot be determined.
A bow is next to useless against a bear. Even if you could kill it with a bow you wouldn't do it instantly and in that time it would rip you apart. A lot of guns are useless against a bear. Youd be best off with a powerful shotgun. You need something that will stop it in its tracks and preferably make a very loud noise in the process.
@@darrenlamb5640 Many bears have been shot full charge with massive calibers and they dont drop always, sometimes they keep coming forward.
In Canada you can’t carry a handgun especially as a foreigner. Maybe he could have a shotgun for protection Im not sure. I just hunted whitetail in Manitoba during muzzleloader season. Having a pistol or even shotgun with me was not a legal option.
Speaking as a parent who lost a teenager in a car accident, we all grieve in different ways when the impossible actually happens to us. You look for blame and reason where there is none to be found. The only thing that helped me to cope were the facts of the matter and how humanly fallible we all are, especially when we believe we are invincible.
A human being can only survive losing up to four internal organs (at most) and even then, the EMT's know they are gonner's despite their heroic efforts. They see fatalities everyday, which would explain the hesitancy to argue with the bereaved family and friends who are demanding more should be done in the wake of a tragedy. It also puts recovery and rescue personnel at risk of being attacked by going deeper out, to look for evidence when they all understood (with great probability) what the outcome would be.
I do appreciate their sheer will and determination to find their friend alive. Hope and your faith in God is a powerful motivator. However, judging by the evidence, and despite Bart's vast knowledge of the wilderness, what happened to Bart was clearly a bear attack. How many times do we hear about the bears consuming a body and only leaving part of the head intact? A few shattered bone fragments? Perhaps Bart was washing up, or swimming to shore with his canoe, or even had fallen asleep without his pants on, or had been distracted washing his field clothes when the event occurred. He was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. It could happen to anyone. At least he died doing what he loved to do, pursuing his sport.
The bear doesn't care how smart and how educated you are. The bear is a cunning and wild apex predator and you are in his territory. And no matter what level of expert he was, he broke the cardinal rule by hunting (or hiking) alone in bear country. That is the risk you have to assume when you are out hunting. You must always assume there are dangers and risks when you step out into the woods.
Please accept my condolences
I’m sorry for your loss
I am very sorry for your loss (hug)
I myself is an avid hunter/outdoorsman who lives out in the sticks out in remote Montana. I remember reading this story in the newspaper at that time. The story jumped out at me seeing how I shared the same kind of passions for the outdoors. I wonder if it’s possible an animal attacked him while going to the bathroom? It would explain him missing pants, right? Sometimes we could really overthink things, but then again, we live in a cruel world. My thoughts n prayers go out to his family. Holidays are probably hard on them. Cheers
Anything is possible, but as soon as they mentioned he didn't have a firearm, that's kinda a weird move. Montana is wild, but not on the same level as Alaska/N. Canada.
Or 2 legged predators.
I’m thinking that. Or possibly a bull moose attack. The rut is on that time of year and if he has to be patient for a close shot no doubt a moose could smash his face in on a charge or trample. I’ve seen a few videos of archers being attacked by close moose. Weird case
Man, I miss Montana so f-ing badly.
@@lizc6393 I'll bet you do!!!!!
This proves that how experienced you are, when you're in Nature, you are vulnerable.
This is definitely a great mystery. As someone with so much experience, but not to mention the evidence they did find. Just so odd. Especially considering the report I was able to find via your description (Thank you for always leaving details) very sad and prayers for his family.
Died doing what he loved , better then dying in a nursing home ❤️
I saw my strong, fit, 6'5" uncle die in an old age homè, it took 3 years of lost dignity, loss of control over his life, being slowly reduced to a person that could not even talk anymore. It made me wish I would rather die in a war in a firefight.
What if all ur nurses are beautiful and attentive to all ur needs??...hmmmm?
So true.
Assuming he loved screaming for his life and being torn to pieces.
@@losonsrenoster I worked in one for some years..did he only go once he started to get worse at home.
It doesn't matter what level of experience someone has, because there are dangerous animals, that are sometimes more dangerous than you are. He tested his luck until it finally ran out, and then he became a tasty snack. As a Canadian I have a healthy respect for large, muscular creatures that know their surroundings better than we do. My father survived 6 years of combat in WW2, but barely survived, getting charged by a Moose. He shot 5 rounds out of his Savage model 99 lever gun, and they all bounced off it's thick skull, and luckily his hunting partner killed it with his 30-06, before it struck him down..
Wow what a story! Ikr I respect nature these big animals etc! If your gonna go hunting hiking camping better be prepared best ya can! Big bears & cats are no joke! Those moose etc either!
Seen a moose go down with a 9mm Glock 19. Shot placement is all you need. Video on youtube actually.
@@Theylive4213that’s a lucky shot sheesh! 🎯
There is a lot missing from this account, regarding the condition of evidence. So the camp was normal in appearance, looked like it would look if he had no worries about bears so maybe he hadn't seen any around camp. It's nearly his last day there and he wants a successful hunt, so even though the weather is doubtful he gets his hunting gear and jumps in his boat and paddles a half mile to a place he thinks is good. Then the weather goes to crap, suddenly, and he winds up in the water trying to get the boat to shore. Water temp there is cold enough you have a few minutes before you can't function. They find his bow near the boat, then the arrows, then his dry bag against a tree in a spruce thicket. Scattered clothing about the area. Even experts make mistakes, and in a place like the Yukon a mistake can kill you no matter how expert you are. I can grab a half dozen memories of such things in my own experience, stuff that happened that I didn't expect and I'm only alive now because I was lucky and it didn't kill me. Sometimes you aren't lucky. When you are in last stages of hypothermia you get really stupid, start leaving gear behind, take off your clothes because your body is flushing the last bits of heat to your extremities to keep you moving and you feel hot. Then you get tired and you sit down and you freeze to death. People find piles of clothing neatly stacked, never find the body sometimes because people in that state of mind hide somewhere. Bears don't eat pants, neither do wolves, the account mentions wolf scat I think, and wolves dismember bodies and bury them. Would probably be a lot in the evidence recovered that would support or deny these ideas, but it's not covered in the video.
I would be very interested to know if any arrows were missing. I agree he made a fatal mistake or had a medical emergency. I dont know how they can call what they examined an autopsy. He could have had a head injury. Why were his arrows not with his bow? Were arrows missing? Whatever happened he was eating and stopped. I would love to see the reports from the investigation.
He got the animals for years, but finally they got him.
The hypothermia via entering water on accident makes sense to me.
@@norml.hugh-mann That would explain several things.
With Food left for as long as it did makes no sense at all.
I’ve read quite a bit about this story and it’s pretty clear he was attacked by a bear. Being a bear expert means nothing when a bear decides to take you. The rest of his remains were probably stashed by the bear or taken off by other opportunists. Finding remains in the Yukon is far beyond a needle in a haystack. Remember that it took a team to find his personal items just 60 yards away from his bow.
I think you are wrong, Everything and everybody said, there are no bear marks found on his body that was examined. Nothing at that site suggest that. This man was a highly trained outdoorsman. Nothing of the food was touched or eaten, and yet we are again here saying this was a bear. People always are afraid to say something else dark happened here, and just choose for the safest answer and that's the bear. I can't believe that, his case has a lot of similarities with dozen of other cases where people vanished forever of are found years later with no clues. He was in the middle of fucking nowhere so no human killed him that i'm sure and no animal, so something else happened here. David Paulides wrote also heavily on this case. Henry Ford once said: I think somebody is fishing on us! I do believe that, we do the same to animals. I'm just sayin, keep an open mind, don't jump to the easiest conclusions just because the mind can't handle it or the truth.
@andrew8500 My guess it was a forest giant either a Sasquatch or a Dogman. Could also been a Wendigo. But I highly doubt it was a bear or Wolves.
Bow was left at his boat but arrows by his hiding blind! Medical issue probably resulting in smaller critters to clean up remains!
My dad always said there’s two people that drowned, people that can’t swim and people I think they can,It’s the same thing with wildlife
There's a chilling line from a famous Canadian poet that says: "There are strange things done in the midnight sun...the Arctic trails have their secret tales that would make your blood run cold." (Robert Service)
@Foxyand Lucy haha...it's a Canadian thing, eh? I went to school in Vancouver.
Never touch the wilderness alone no matter how good you are at being outdoors. Especially in National Parks.
THE GRIZZLY IS A BETTER HUNTER...It MAY HAVE STALKED HIM FOR DAY'S AND HE NEVER KNEW IT...R.I.P BROTHER.
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@@jacobstinchcomb6207 THANK YOU!!
I kind of agree.
@@lindabrennan4455 IT IS A FACT!!
Lol...a grizzly stalking a human for days in order to eat them is more like something from a movie or a book. Grizzly are almost always more interested in the trash and the food you have than actually looking at you as a meal. The only bear known to consistently stalk humans for pray is the Polar bear and they're behavior patterns are totally different than a Grizzly or Brown bear.
There's one important piece missing to the story. The first Pilot that arrived to pick up Bart stated that he had this uneasy feeling and specifically remembers being "creeped out" to the point that he jumped back in his plane and flew off.
unimportant
A feeling of uneasiness is unsurprising for someone who is alone in the wilderness, especially given the circumstances.
There is a citic reptilian base up in the Yukon
@@paulmurray8734 proof? I'm curious about such things
Your thinking of the Timothy treadwell case. That pilot left because of the feeling he got at Tim’s campsite.
Years ago I lived in central Idaho. I was alone, bow hunting for elk in the Pahsimeroi Valley. I saw a number of elk skeletal remains (some, if not most wolf kills I assumed) I was slowly moving through timber cow elk calling as I moved. It was very quiet (no elk in the vicinity) when I suddenly heard a very loud groan/bellow. It didn't sound like a typical bull elk squeal, or groan, but I assumed it was a bull elk w/an unusual voice. I remained still listening/looking for a bull elk sneaking in. Then from behind me, and moving to my right, about 70 yards, was a large, white timber wolf. It's head was low, and moving steadily to my front. It did not look at me, but clearly knew I was there. Assuming it was part of a group, I quickly left the area. My aunt later told me seeing a white wolf in the wild is supposed to be big medicine. My only other Idaho wolf encounter was seeing an adolescent that was a more typical charcoal color.
Do wolves attack humans or just keep their distance?
@@libraryfiles4470 I've never heard of a wolf/wolves attacking people. However, while I lived in central Idaho wolves chased a young man I knew. It was late winter/early spring and he was looking for antlers that deer shed (deer shed them in mid-late winter). Evidently, (unbeknowst to him) he was near wolf den and when he ventured too close, the wolves "escorted" him away. Idaho Fish & Game officers investigated after he got back to town and reported the incident. They confirmed it happened just as he said. Obviously, wolves could chase down, and kill a human effortlessly if that was their intent. These chose to intimidate him rather than kill him. The Fish & Game officers surmised the wolves may have had new pups and the ones who chased him were the enforcers for keeping potential threats from getting too close to the pups.
What does big medicine mean?
@@MGE9436 I'm not exactly certain (as it's slang) (a way of stating something, or defining something using metaphor, or exaggeration) but, I think it's a way of saying powerful karma, or mysticism.
Thank you for explaining this. I kinda like that term. @@UnderSprayedWhiteSkies
His chances of being killed by wildlife were higher than almost anyone else in the world, given his passion for the great outdoors, his confidence with wildlife and the sheer exposure he put himself in by being alone so often in the middle of nowhere. Very sad. I'm risk averse, and being eaten alive is one eventuality I am doing my darnedest to minimise the chances of occurring. RIP. He's hopefully having a beer with Steve Irwin ❤️
One of the cases that definitely doesn’t get enough attention. One of the baddest modern day outdoorsmen that’s ever existed.
It's received plenty of attention. David Paulides covered it already, plus several other youtube channels have made videos about it. It's well known because it's one of the strangest cases ever related to Missing 411.
@@DIVISIONINCISION I mean obviously you’re a professional and all but I mean enough coverage like many of the more well known cases that have been on things such as … the national news, 20/20, ID channel. Stuff like that.
@@notchase1798
I agree-
it’s like Roswell.
Certain events receive a disproportionate amount of coverage,subject matter aside.
Dennis Martin and certain other cases receive massive attention while others are ignored.
Bart was not just “another hunter” or camper.
And never took firearm
I am a resident of Whitehorse and due to my physical condition hunting trips are not high up on my priority list. My adult son however does bear, bison, sheep and moose hunts. A few times he has planned solo sheep hunts and I always talk with him about this case, Bart was an outdoor expert in every sense and in my opinion no bear did that to him, if Bart could handle himself in the wilderness with tigers then bears are moot. My son has always found a partner for these sheep hunts at the last minute but nothing makes me as nervous for him as a solo hunt in the mountains. Even though he always carries a sat phone and is armed (not a bow hunter) I never want him to go alone, I've read and heard too many horror stories, Dave Paulides is responsible for most, that was where I first heard Bart's story. A baffling and uneasy feeling engulfs me everytime I go over the facts of the case, I don't believe this was animal predation, there may have been some after the incident, scavenging and the like after, yes of course. Like this presenter said when a bear feeds on a human corpse they always ingest fragments of the clothing which can be found in the scat. Something strange happened to Bart out there in the wilds of Yukon Territory.
You will in the end end up the way you lived just a matter of time
Being alone dramatically increases the odds that one will be attacked by a predator including human.
If one is alone, be aware of it and take extraordinary precautions.
@@christinerose4839 wtf you even talking about bitch?
@@thegreatape884 Little salty there, I've never purchased a book of his and his TH-cam isn't huge. Frank Sinatra sung a song about folks like you, can you guess which one? I'll give ya a hint, J Phoenix. Most folks with missing family members want the most amount of attention they can get. There is no pleasing everyone and there will always be some doofus to poo poo something no matter how good it is.
Maybe a crazed hermit…😏
Seriously, read the Yukon newspaper article, his bow and arrows were found together leaning on a tree, his skull and bones had teeth marks on them, his balaclava had blood, hair and tissue in it, bear scat recovered at the scene had human tissue in it and there’s no mention of half eaten food at the camp. He was attacked and eaten by a bear, it was October, bears are fattening up for winter, no mystery here.
Thank you
Yeah talk about not doing your research. Embellishing the story to make it more dramatic and it really was read that Yukon newspaper article
A bear will not neatly remove his pants; what animals have hands to do that in the Yukon?
And the bear left his food intact at the camp?
heading out hunting with a bow in bear country is asking to be eaten alive ,
Moral of the story, even if you're a professional doesn't mean you're invincible. RIP bro.
I have heard of many stories from people who have exp strange and scarry encounters with something in the woods and wilderness
Native American here, Cree. My mosom/grandpa always use to say there is no such thing as a professional in the woods, remain cautious and always do a turn around from time to time. He was a tradition hunter tracker, scouter and code talker from ww2. just goes to show that even a firefighter can die from fire.
I don’t care how much your a survival/animal “expert”. If your in the woods alone or with kids you ALWAYS have a firearm! You better with it and never needing it then you are needing it and not having it.
I don't care what ppl claim.....All ppl Professionals makes mistakes and get's killed from being "that" Professional. Never underestimate anything ! Bigfoot , Dogman, demons, etc..... are very real and out there.
Spot on. Humans are at a disadvantage in the wilds in which these animals have spent every day of their lives. We're never going to be stronger than a bear or quicker than a mountain lion. Firearms are the great equalizer. They give us a fighting chance, not the guaranteed outcome of safety and survival. Use tools for their intended purpose.
No matter how professional a man is at survival, No one should go into the wild alone. Animals do what is instinct. Period.
Alone is dangerous, but can be awesome too. I have hiked years alone inro the wilderness. Love the solitude of being out there just you and God creations. I have greater chance of being killed by a car then something in the woods. The concrete jungle is more dangerous than anything out in woods. That is where I feel safe and happy, but that is just me.
Nothing wrong with going alone if you have the right experience and equipment.
And know what not to risk.
The problems usually happen due to inexperience, inattention and bravado.
Plenty of experts make basic mistakes, usually they are lucky.
Not always
As an avid outdoorsman who's been skiing avalanche terrain, recreating and hunting in grizzly country, and various other "high risk" activities for 20 yrs solo, I respectfully disagree.
@@benjaminlaster3773, I admire You. I believe that You are a professional. I hope You are well and healthy. Never have to fight to survive.
@@tr7938 I would have truthfully embellished lavishly on these statements if my intent was to brag or impress. I do apologize that my comment upset you and I hope you have a terrific day.
Unsurprising how yet again, the RCMP seemed to have dropped the ball. Definitely a strange case!
Holy shit! i never heard of a more incompetent organization........ SERIOUSLY they have dropped the ball on so many occasions......
@a v I agree with you. It’s because they are government employees much like our fbi and they are NOT held accountable. If u even question them you end up in jail. In saying that, I think there are several really good cops in the rcmp, but their reputation is smeared by all the clowns that they work with and the politicians in charge of them. When all hell breaks lose it won’t matter, we’re all on our own. Just pray God is our only hope. Cops are mostly corrupt anyways.
@@silver-en7kl "when all hell breaks loose we're on our own" I think this is what everyone is waiting for.... to escape the tyranny of man. THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS CORRUPT AND THE SLAVES ARE MOST AWARE. I'll take my chances with the 🐻 🐻❄. Thank you. May the most high protect his saints. To live is Christ and to die is Christ.... amen brothers and sisters
I’m really glad I don’t have to worry about predators in the woods where I’m from
Being an outdoorsman myself, for over 50 years, I would say that this man was ambushed by a bear. They stated that his dry bag was found in a willow/black spruce thicket, which would severely limit his field of vision. And lastly, they found part of his head, which didn't have evidence of a predatory attack. Really? I would say that by only finding part of his skull, that would point directly at a predatory incident.
You'd think so. I would think so anyway.
bears dont take your pants off without tearing them or leaving blood on them. something strange got him while he was sitting up against a tree calling in a moose.nothing like a bear attack and none of the scat had human remains in it and if a bear was hungry enough to eat u he would of eaten the food in the camp and what was left on his plate.
@@juansimon5802 But what if a bear Got him first and then someone else came along after the bear left.
@@juansimon5802 He was about to take a crap when the bear or wolf got him
So if he died of something else you don't think the the bears or wolves wouldn't eat his body? Like they said .. Bears don't take your pants off and his open lunch wasn't eaten and his container of food was untouched. People are so quick to think oh it was just a bear. When they don't even know bear behavior
I worked in northern BC, in the 90s and knew a trapper up there who was familiar with a huge grizzly bear, that was nicknamed Kong. Very rare to see these animals before theyve seen you. Very smart and cunning.
All that was scene was his tracks, which were big enough for two size 12s hiking boots to fit in.
He may have been hunted by such an animal. And they don't get this big from being careless or clumsy.
Two size 12 boots is basically 2 feet. Are you sure this bear's footprint was 2 feet long? humm
@@slatsgrobneck7515 think he means side by side..
@@leevancleef451 Ahh, yes. :)
Seeing that while alone in the woods would make your hair stand on end
There are more things out there in the remote wilderness than we might think.
For Sure , Many things
Like what
@@seanlamar29 me
@@seanlamar29 cryptids!
I am in grizzly country every day, we have at least six prowling our local neighborhood. It begins right outside my door. I carry spray and the right firearm whenever i'm in the surrounding woods. What i point out to people is that when it comes to "being prepared" in life, it is never 99% of the times you go out that you are preparing for. Don't let that number make you careless. People who are prepared are interested in that 1% or less of the times they are out. THAT's the number you are preparing for, always. That said, there are still no guarantees. On a long enough timeline in fact, regardless of what we prepare for in life or how well we do it, our individual odds of survival are 0%. You ARE gonna die. It's just a matter of how and when.
He died where he wanted to be , a place where when things go wrong you are on your own .
I am a retired Private Investigator with over 20 years under my belt and I have a Degree in Criminology. As a Private Investigator I would start by where he was at his campsite and start what Police would do, the process of elimination like was the fire still hot, how long was any food items left out to exposure of air, animals, or anything that would look suspicious like tracks of animals or human? Then you work your way from there. A campsite says a lot about what might be going on by the way it was left. I have read this story and I can say it probably wasn't an animal because it doesn't fit the narrative of the evidence. Also, the way they found his gear and other things just don't add up. This is one for the X files that is for sure. There are a lot of things in the woods that we still do not know about.
I agree. AS a Mercenary soldier we would dig up enemy dump sites or look at where they camped overnight to gather intel. What are they eating. Are they eating well. Are the wasting food what kind of food, who is the food supplied by...etc. Lots of intel to gather at a camp site. Im going with hypothermia though due to his cloths being removed.
@@stevel6939 Many of the Missing 411 cases are ruled as hypothermia because they can't figure out another cause of death.
Human agency seems most likely...based....on the evidence provided here.
@@fionnmaccumhaill3257 elaborate a little because I am not familiar with that agency? Please and thank you.
Your wrong.....Many ppl do know about the existence of Bigfoot or Dogman, just it's kept Hush Hush. Private Investigator with 20yrs? Are you familiar with Dave Paulides, CanAm Missing 411???
Jim Fixx was also in great shape! As a retired homicide detective, I have handled several deaths that were natural or accident, where the body was then eaten by animals. Sometimes, several different animals.
Jim Fixx was a runner. He died of a heart attack while jogging! What gives?
@@lcaceci43 I think the detective is saying that the hunter could have just died of a random heart attack. It happens.
My husband is a hunter, he loves hunting and I love that he hunts but i get so scared every year during hunting season because all the stories about hunters going missing or getting shot by accident
May he rest in peace. My condolences go out to his family and loved ones.
I lived in Alaska for 5 years. It's a dangerous and hostile environment that does not suffer fools or forgive even the tiniest mistake.
Yeah, lots of drunks and domestic violence.
Anything can happen to a person no matter how well trained they are. Sad story about that fella. A real head stumper this one.
A REAL HEAD STUMPER YOU COULDN'T HELP YOURSELF YOU HAD TO GO THERE
Sounds like he just wanted to disappear
Sad guy lol
--- For 2 yrs, I lived in the little logging town of Canal Flats on the SE side of BC. Since I was an obvious "slicker", everyone took the time to warn me of wolves & bears & what to do if it crosses paths with me... I agree with you that if it was bear attack there would be more evidence, like ALL the food gone... Since the spot was so "clean" why couldn't a wolf have come to take the leftovers back to the den...but then there should have been more blood evidence if he was ripped apart! My heart suspects foul play...whether by live crazy humans or aliens, there was foul play! Happy trails, Ms. CharLee
I surely agree with you... there is soooo much more out there than what we know... I was a hunter for years.... there would be no food left there at all.... it’s very creepy any more when you think about what is in the woods!!!
The hairy man is real and not our friend.
Who is that?
@@L8bro Sasquatch
I am hairy, and real, and I'm not a friend of people who believe ridiculous things.
@@gibbogle good for you 👍 , its hard to believe things you never have a chance to experience living in your mama's basement.
@@gibbogle I’m not hairy, I’m real & don’t need friends who can’t believe in the unseen…😉
Why do you always say things about the people on your videos that you cannot possibly have any idea about? You continually say how great these people are, and how kind and nice they are. You have no idea what kind of people they are or were.
People die all the time because they hunt dangerous game. If you go after, or hike, camp or otherwise try to cohabitate around large predators alone and with no firearms, you will be killed and eaten by a large predator.
Never, ever go out alone.
Though this is tragic, it is predictable. People who are experts are the most likely to be killed by animals. They are likely to be over confident because they are so experienced.
Interesting that the mask with blood and hair on it was so far away from everything else, with no signs of disturbance to suggest that the rest of him had been dragged away. Makes me think something happened to him and then he ran away, ripping his mask off and then his baseball cap (possibly a head/face attack due to the blood?). Another interesting thing is that an experienced outdoors man would never leave half eaten food out at their camp site either. Perhaps he left in a hurry, but I couldn't see him making such a basic error over a potential moose. What if something spooked him?
Other than the blood/hair on the mask there was no blood at the scene whatsoever. Even the piece of skull left had no tissue or blood on it. That's not natural. Scalp tissue would be remaining after 2 weeks. I agree that something spooked him, but no evidence of what/who.
This is a very good observation of facts. Someone has critical thinking skills that I like.
Fox often follow bear around and scavenge.
What a great shame we lost this incredible man ,and his knowledge of animals ,sad loss ,god bless him
I think he was eating, heard or saw a moose where his boat was found and grabbed his pack and bow and paddled over there. The bear may have already been stalking the moose Bart saw/heard and when Bart started making cow sounds the bear wisely moved in on him. But all of this took a while and Bart felt the urge to drop a deuce in the lake, which would explain why there was no kill site and why just the bow was found by the boat. Maybe he got off 1 arrow before the attack.
Squatch. He was chased out of his campsite by squatches. He took his boat, and bow, went aways away, perhaps to regroup, but they were tipped off to his existence by his two-week stay, and eventually got him. I don't think he was looking for moose on the last day he was to be retrieved.
A dogman is more of a possibility as it is a cold blooded predator. Hence, the wolf tracks found around his campsite. A Bigfoot would just try to scare and drive him out but not kill him.
I think it was a giant.
I would look closer for a Game-Camera hopefully he had put one up? Squatches I believe is possiable. He may have been hidding out away from his tent with food in tent area ....baiting whatever was stocking him. Squatches started throughing Rocks at him while he took a swim as he hid out from his tent possiably?
Gugwe / Genoskwa is known as face eating sasquatch.
Some type of cryptid attacked/chased him out of his base camp. He left quick and eventually was attacked. 😔
It's always hard with little or confusing evidence because there's always exceptions to rules and we're not sure how it all fits together. He was an expert outdoorsman making him less likely to get into trouble but he also spent so much time out there that it makes him more likely for something to happen out there. He understands bears really well but he also frequents their territory so much it's slightly more likely that he has an encounter. Somehow he got the unlikely draw, I'm just not sure which one.
Well said Chris.
look at you being all reasonable in the comments section... are you ill sir? ))
@@paladro My bad, I'll try and start some drama next time. 😂😂
When people live in the same areas Grizzly bears live ....
This has been happening since the early 1900's. I'm genuinely not trying to take away from the seriousness of this case, a great man lost his life in the northwest territory, and it just shows how dangerous this section of Canada can be, even for the most experienced. An area in the Northwest territory, pretty much in the center of it, was nicknamed headless Valley. Long story short people kept going to this area to find gold and hunt early 1900's, a high percentage of them never came back and when/if their bodies were found, they were found headless or dead of very very strange circumstances. It's pretty easy to find of you look it up, I encourage you to check it out! Such a tragic loss, it's sad to see people still losing their lives so violently out there today.
Bigfoot attack sounds to me🤔🤔
This happened in the Yukon, not NWT
@@cabinfevrr "Reid lakes area of northwest territories" no sir you're incorrect.
A native tribe that lived in the headless valley had broke contact with people not long before the killings.
That tribe was also known to decapitate people.
So ya know....
@@jimbob465 I hadn't heard about this! I'll have to look check it out. Could explain a lot when it comes to the burnt down cabin and charred body with wounds all over it, the clean decapitations, the terrifying calls that have been heard by multiple accounts, and so many other strange happening in the area. Truly creepy mystery.
Here's what I think happened. He was overly confident and left his bear spray because he had his arrows. He thought he'd be okay. Well, a grizzly did spot him and wasn't going away. It probably was hunting him for a few days and when he set his stuff up for the moose, it chased him. Not attacked but chased him! It killed him and ripped him to pieces but the site where they found his skull was not the kill site. The rest of his body was probably eaten and dragged off by other bears or wolves. A wolf den is very well hidden so his clothing and whatever else there was probably became buried in brush to never be seen again.
Never enter an animals domain without a large firearm for your own safety. It doesn't matter how much you've been taught about wild animals,
You are not one, and
we must respect them.
Yes, hell of a good idea !
I beg to differ . I've met quite a few wild animals masquerading as Humans in my day.....Equally unpredictable, equally dangerous too. Sometimes i think we're safer with the ones out in nature lol.
@@brainspin7518 yes
or STAY OUT OF THEIR DOMAIN!
Yes, our firearms are our strength, claws, and speed, which large predators have integrated into their bodies.
No matter how fit, well versed and educated you're per wildlife and living in the woods; "wildlife" is born into it and it's in their nature to consume life to preserve their own. Life consumes life. Bart seemed like an amazing man, and many may call this a tragedy, but for me, he lived his life to the fullest and likely perished by the same thing he loved. There is no sin, nor indictment on the way his parting occurred, but rather their is memory to carry on his accomplishments and research.
Well said.
Remember . Early humans that were experts in the wild, banded together for protection from getting eaten. They were way better then this fellow in the woods was having spent their entire lives in those woods learning from their fathers and grandfather's knowledge on living in the wild full of hungry animals. One rule first learned, never go anywhere alone. You will be eaten. Alone, there is no one watching your back. Whatever got him, may he rest in peace. His luck just ran out on him.
Yes he won’t be killing again will he .
@@christinerose4839 Lmao please.....
@@christinerose4839 As the old saying goes "you live by the sword and you die by the sword"--sad reality--r i p--
@@jq7323 Sad but true animal killers usually get the same fate---even in human nature murderers get the same sentence...
@Chris Waters Any living entity has feelings---humans--trees-animals and yes even carrots--
No matter how someone dies, people tend to want to make some great mystery out of it. I think it's only human to have a difficult time with acceptance. Also television has affected how people think about incidents such as this. It is very likely that it's as simple as Bart was attacked and killed by a wild animal. It is very sad and unfortunate. There are great risks involved and he knew this. No amount of training or experience will guarantee your safety. RIP sir.
Hi Bryan! You did a great job on this presentation and it does possess some curly questions. You mentioned that there was the possibility that he had a heart attack. That scenario may not be far off possible. He could have started having chest pain and as the pain of the heart attack continued he might have started walking. As his heart continued to decompensate, his oxygen levels would have fallen dramatically. He would have been really labouring to breathe, he would have been sweaty. He could have started to remove clothing as confusion set in with oxygen desaturation. He could have fallen and struck his head or face, hence the bloody mask. At 49, Bart might have had undiagnosed heart disease. He wouldn't be the first athlete to die suddenly and unexpectedly from undiagnosed heart disease. Although animal attack has not been ruled out, I didn't hear anything that suggested an attack by a person either. It seems, therefore, that a medical episode is at least as likely as either of the other two possibilities. This won't balm any of his familiy's and friends' hurt at his death. My thoughts and prayers are with them.
I considered that too
Facts
He took his pants off to have a tom tit !
and it explains why his bow was neatly placed against a tree.
That's the age where surprises happen
Good evening Bryan,
This is just my opinion not fact. I really think he had a surprise attack by an animal(s)bears, wolves or any other large animal that eats meat in the Yukon. Remember the old saying "Even the best swimmers drown." He was not a God, he was not perfect ,he was just a man. I do think It was poor judgement to go to an area with animals that can eat you and not carry a gun for protection. A bow and arrow are great to hunt with, but for protection from a large animal ,Hell no. I think he was eaten not only by the large animals ,but by several types of scavengers in the Yukon. Clothes taste just fine for hungry animals. A person did not kill him. Everything of value was left behind. (except him) No food was taken , he still had all his expensive equipment on site. No human hurt Him. It is a sad story but one a read about often. A person very skilled in an activity, hobby etc....... is killed while they are doing the activity they know the most about. . (Like hiking)
Surely virgin wilderness, and he was alone in a place only accessible by plane. He thought nothing bad would happen to him. He was invincible. Very poor judgment. You don't go by yourself to grizzly, wolves territory by yourself, no firearms, to stay in that vastness two weeks. He had a death wish in my opinion. Something terrible happened to him. Supernatural entities took him, this is what I believe. Folded pants is a clue.
So the bear left his food intact?
I agree with you. Everyone has their own preferences, but I personally would not be without a gun in a place like that, even if there are laws forbidding guns. I carry one anyway. I'd rather break the law than die from an attack by a large predator or a two-legged one. Bear spray is not enough.
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The only this we can say for sure in this case is that there's not enough information to make a determination. Excellent presentation of this story!
That's a rather tragic story indeed. I truly hope there wasn't foul play involved in this, whatever it may have been. He was a handsome man. Regardless, none of this matters if there happens to be an angry grizzly bear in the immediate vicinity who is hellbent on getting you. I think he should have had a gun with him, as well. Bears will attack without notice from places you weren't expecting. He knew. I just hope it was pretty and less suffering. Be a good book or movie down the road... I'm sure there are all kinds of facets to his life that are amazing. RIP man.
Sounds to me like he was doin his business and was stalked and attacked. I can tell you first hand these big bears can be absolutely silent almost like a ghost that is all of a sudden there. It is amazing how quiet they can be. Bart never heard or saw it coming and at that point being unarmed succumbed to a brutal death in the jaws of an apex predator.
Had a buddy real pro bear had griz double back on him twice in one day and wait for him as he went back to his car at the end of the day,sitting silently on a ledge at the trail head as he walked by 10 ft away buddy decided to find a new hobby.
Could have been a cougar also.
@@tomstulc9143 That was my first thought. They don't leave a damn trace and it's as fascinating as it is terrifying. A professor of mine in Montana said if a cat decides to kill you, you won't know till you're dead.
My first thought also...
🐾
I never imagined them being so quiet wow, I'm a city person but this freaks me out.
Just remember, when you venture out alone hunting, there’s always something else watching you . Sometimes it’s something unexplained that is watching you and hunts you down .
like Bigfoot !
Crazy talk
Wendigo
Amazing, nobody else has mentioned anything like this yet...
Exactly
There are so many unexplained occurrences in that region
The fact that there was food still in
his camp is suspicious..bears would have cleaned that up long ago...
Exactly Dogmen has been killing hikers and campers,a record high in deaths
@@aaronmatthewsalinas1408 dogmen? WTH? 🤣
@@t.g.7180 not a funny joke sorry to say,look up NVTV he's got his own You tube channel and talks about all these mysterious deaths in national parks and rural areas in our 50 states even law enforcement has had encounters with these cryptid creatures,that for some strange reason prey on humans.
Dogman does not eat picnic baskets,he likes human flesh instead 😵
@@aaronmatthewsalinas1408 Don’t forget the giants or nephilim.
I remember when this happened and believe most experts concluded that he was killed by a bear, possibly a bear that was attracted by his use of a moose call. Bears are often attracted by calls. It can happen to anyone, regardless of experience.
and God bless his great friend who went out there looking for him.
Steve Irwin was also an animal expert and died of a freak animal accident. Things happen, even to experienced people. He died where he lived and I'm sure that is what he would have wanted.
Steve Irwin was hovering above a large stingray. A stingray is not violent and only has a spike at thr base of their tail as defense. The only thing g a stingray fear is a shark that eats stingrays. So Irwin decided to snorkel or scuba right above thr stingray looking like a shark to a stingray. Irwin is also known for poking animals and antagonizing them to get a reaction for TV. So the stingray stabbed in the chest. He would have survived if his buddies in the boat had left the spike in his chest but they pulled it out allowing massive hemorrhaging.
This was the same "animal expert" who went walking around in a crocodile pit carrying his infant baby. If he had slipped or tripped or if any croc decided to rush at him, he and his baby would have been lunch. That was a numbskull stunt so I wouldn't classify him as any expert. An expert respects wild animals. Respects their abilities. And respects their capacity to harm.
he also like to sex animals and if you can see all the animals he's ever done that too they get quite uncomfortable I'm sorry but I don't care what kind of animal you are you don't want some weird animal touching your junk and that's exactly what he was doing in the video with a stingray he was trying to sex it like he always does Stingray was in perfect position to send the spine right underneath his rib cage into his heart that was totally his fault he did not need to know what the sex of that stingray was let's just be honest you could say it was for biology but does that really freaking matter well it should have mattered to him cuz he's not here anymore I just could not dig how he would just basically molest animals and it was okay no animal wants to be touched. like that
@@ms.annthrope415 He was a teacher, and teachers have standards. Be polite, be efficient, have a plan to educate everyone you meet.
Nobody is surprised when a skydiver dies while skydiving. Or a race driver in a car accident. To me there is no mystery here. He was involved with wild animals it is only logical one of those killed him. The chance to get hit by a lightning is very small, but that’s because the exposure is minimal. Chase every storm on the planet and you certainly will increase the chance.
@@ms.annthrope415 👏👏👏👏👏
What is strange is how does nature produce a skull in less than a month? I live deep forest woods NE Washington state we have grizzly wolves black bears etc. I have had animals dead in my yard that takes weeks for the coyotes to pick clean than the magpies and other birds pick the rest off in months
I must have missed the part with the details on the skulls state of decomposition.
I also live in that general area. I agree wholeheartedly
Guess the Squatch cleaned off the skull...💀
Had an X Co-worker who lived out a bit further East of Cle-Elum, Bigfoot roams in her 20 Acres of land. Yep... Don't care what you think, It's real and they are out there!!
Realistic situation he was killed by Bear. Unrealistic situation he was killed by a Wendigo