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What if the terrible FEAR of an accident caused me to drink and drive and caused the accident? Can I sue the inventor of Jack Daniels, corn farmers, Henry Ford, and Canada if I hit a maple tree?
@@danorris5235lmao my friend’s dog goes crazy anytime he hears “haircut?” but not like he’s going to get one, just the word itself sets him off and he runs around screaming
I think "complicit" is a better word - the authorities know about whatever inhuman/subhuman/half-human predators are comitting these strange head-huntings and murders - and they do not seek to destroy them - they instead placate them and avoid their "territory". Why? If have to make a wild guess: these creatures are connected in some way to the Nephilim; and the authorities are in constant contact with the fallen angels - garnering forbidden knowledge and tech from them in exchange for their ancient offspring being spared annihilation - as well as the authorities having to actively attempt to free the fallen ones. Or maybe it's a supernatural force that the authorities simply do not know HOW to counter. Maybe things become worse when the authorities actively attempt to defeat these forces?
Canadian here. If someone I cared about went missing and the RCMP was lead on the case I’m immediately hiring private investigators/trackers to supplement my own and local search parties. That’s putting it mildly.
Uhhhh...... ABSOLUTELY....... ONE LOOK AT BRENDA LUCKY (RCMP Commissioner) AND THE TOTAL SHITSTORM THAT WAS THE NOVA SCOTIA SHOOTING..... AND OTHER STUPID SHIT....= PURE CORRUPTION AND POLITICAL POLICE FORCE
Interestingly, some US states have actual laws on the books relating to big foot. For example, a law in Texas saying that it’s perfectly fine to shoot one.
The thing that always gets me about this case (and the only reason I remember this case) is because of that fucking bag. Bart had food in that bag. Even people who don't know jack shit about bears know they love people food - they will break into houses, cars, trashcans etc. to get to it. So you have a bag w/ food in it sitting a few yards away from the remains of Bart. A bag which, after a week, was still untouched w/ the indentation of where Bart was sitting still embedded in it. Not disturbed in the slightest. Not to mention the rest of his supplies. Weird. Really fucking weird. Even if this was a murder - someone came and offed Bart for sport or some awful shit - that still doesn't explain why animals never raided his supplies. Even something small, like a fox.
I’d also like to add to your point about the supposed bear not touching his other supplies It was late September early October. During this season a hibernating bear’s daily calorie intake goes from ~5,000 calories a day to fuckin 20,000 calories a day. The time frame matches up to when a bear would literally eat any and everything it physically could stomach in order to prepare for hibernation.
Would it have been a bag that is sealed to prevent the scent of food from getting out? Sounds like something useful for bear country. I don't live/camp in bear country so I don't know if this is really a thing.
@@Thomas62374 Its not a thing as far as i know... they can always smell something thats why you go around 200 feet away to hang your food (overnight) & also cook in a different location & also change the clothes you cook in (leave the clothes there too some people clean it there too) so you try to cook close to a water source. But tbh I don't camp like that (long hikes & camping on the trails)
Bears have a reputation for loving people food because there is a high correlation between bears that live around people and bears that have learned that people have good food. Unfortunately for Bart, he was not around these bears.
The detail about how the alaskan wildlife photographer was eaten alive and the audio was recorded is freaking horrifying. Some awful morbid part of me wants to look it up but there’s no way I’m doing that. My god that’s terrifying.
Not only did he get himself eaten, but also his girlfriend. If you're interested there's a documentary called "grizzly man" about him. He thought he could talk to them and that the bears shared a "bond" with him. He recorded himself being eaten by a bear, telling his girlfriend to hit the bear with a pan, and got her killed too. They won't release the real audio because of messed up it is but they recreated it I guess
His name was Timothy Treadwell and he was well known with the local wildlife agencies for getting way too close to the bears. He and his girlfriend were also in the area later in the year than usual, so the bears were hungry and looking for calorie-dense foods. I've heard that Mr. Treadwell could recognize the bears that were "regulars" in the areas he stayed in and the bear that killed him wasn't one he knew, so I guess maybe he did have a reasonable sense of how safe he was around familiar bears. But still, his story is a lesson in why you always respect a wild animal's ability to hurt or kill you. You don't get a special pass just because you feel like you have a "bond" with them.
I'm morbidly curious as well but just not there, ready to seek it out, yet. If you do, come back please and give a short summary or let us know whether it is not for the faint of heart, please?
If anybody’s curious about the Alaskan wildlife photographer mentioned, his name was Timothy Treadwell. He spent thirteen summers camping around grizzlies on the Katmai Coast, trying to get as close to them as possible, even touching them and interacting with cubs. He and his girlfriend Amie Huguenard were eaten by a 28-year-old male in 2003
@@Si_Sireeni There wasn't any video, only audio, and it was destroyed. (you'd know that if you watched the video you're commenting under) You absolutely have not seen any "video" of this event. Moron
Couple, friendly, factual corrections. I worked with a bunch of the P&W people involved in some of the grizzly studies you mentioned back when I was in uni. So, for bear attack, there's a ton of common misconceptions around the best thing to do. The data are pretty clear in it, however. 1) If it hasn't seen you yet, back away slowly and try to remain unseen. 2) If it has seen you, slowly back away but talk to it and let it know you're human. 3) If it charges you, scream and make yourself big. Almost all charges are bluff charges. Call it's bluff like your life depends on it (it does). 4) If it slowly, steadily approaches you, this is actually the worst. This is textbook predatory behavior. Scream, yell, make yourself big, throw stuff. Prepare to fight for your life because it's decided you'd look real nice as human-sushi with a side of spare ribs. Under no circumstances, ever, short of you being within feet of your car, or shelter, should you run. This will trigger a predation response even in a curious bear. Also, playing dead only works if the bear was acting in defense, and you hadn't triggered a predation response. So unless you're REALLY confident in your ability to read bear body language before the attack, you're much better off fighting.... On a separate note, the shape of a bow really has nothing to do with it's inherent strength. You can have a 200 lb recurve bow and a 10 lb longbow. The same actually applies to shortbows which are frequently misunderstood as "weaker" than a longbow. The power of a bow is determined purely by the resistance of the limbs. Now, the limb shape will help determine things like the angle an arrow will take when it first leaves the bow, but the arrow will be moving at the same speed and travel the same distance as it would with a differently-shaped bow of the same draw weight. You can think of it sorta like shooting a .22 round out of a handgun or a rifle. There are advantages and disadvantages to each, but the "strength" of the bullet is essentially the same.
While you’re correct I do want to point out that a .22 fired out of a semi automatic pistol would be vastly less powerful than a .22 fired out of a Bolt action rifle Simply because in a semi automatic or automatic, some of the Gas/Force is used to rotate the bolt and chamber a new round. While in a bolt action every little bit of that energy and gas is pushed out of the barrel and none of its wasted Your comparison with guns would work better if you were to say that the barrel length doesn’t make a difference in force, because as for as energy and force goes they actually aren’t equal
@@eshanroveran7850 yeah, I actually thought of that before posting. Also thought about the impact of rifling on the accuracy of the slug and some of the other factors. I sorta went back and forth about changing it but ultimately settled on it being "close enough." For example, you can make the argument that the limb geometry of bows does change the trajectory of the arrow in flight, so it's not that there is "no" difference between a 90 lb. longbow and a 90 lb. recurve bow, but more that at the end of the day, they both were roughly the same in terms of their stopping power. So, even though I know a rifle essentially gets "more use" out of the same amount of powder, I figured the overall analogy still stands since, in my experience, the length and rifling of a barrel is much more important in terms of it's benefits to accuracy than it is to increasing stopping power. Maybe a cleaner analogy for it would be, "if you wouldn't hunt a moose with a .22 in a hand gun, upgrading to a rifle really isn't gonna do much either. You just need need more firepower" and by the same token, "if a 60 lb recurve bow isn't enough to bring down your target, switching to a 60 lb longbow is really not likely to change much."
Does it matter at all depending on the type of bear? I’ve heard what you should do can differ whether you’re facing a grizzly or black bear. Not sure how true that is lol
Bart seems like one of the coolest people I've ever heard of. Every fact/anecdote just made him better and better. These cases are always so sad, but this one really gets me. What a legend. RIP Bart
This video is a very glossed-over positive portrayal lol clearly left out all negatives and just listed as many positive words and synonyms as possible, for some reason
He was a cool guy but this video really really really does not cover Bart as a person (properly or thoroughly enough). I'd recommend doing even deeper research genuinely.
Bart sounds like the type of dude I would want to go hunting with. I can definitely appreciate the sense of humor with taxidermy or mummified animals, the love of nature, and the absolute backwoods badassery that this man exhibited. May his legacy never be forgotten.
As a hunter i can say contrary to your statment, yes its entirely possible for him to have been snuck up on, but its also highly likly that somthing simple like him having been sleepy and nooding off only to get attacked by a predator of some kind. Or some combination like that to have happened. Even the most skilled and highly trained people still mess up or get blindsided from time to time in any field.
Why would a large preditor care about human food or stuff? Assuming it's not a bare, but even then, why would something that just got itself around 200 pounds of meat care about other food in the area?
@@DipsAndPushups The food is just as likely to be eaten either way. if he just got lost somewhere, animals would still eat it. But if he was their meal they are more likely to leave it alone. But a large apex predator in the area can make lesser predators skiddish or simply leave the area. But even if he just dropped the bags in camp or where his bow was found and beamed up to a starship the bags are just as likely to be ripped open for any food that can be smelled unless a big corpse is available t be eaten instead. If the predator scent marked the spot after the kill other animals would leave it alone.
I theorize that Bart was dead and his body just scavenged. I think the strongest possibility is an undiagnosed medical condition that caused his death. Of course, with so little of the remains recovered, it’s impossible to say for sure.
This would explain why there were no signs of a struggle and none of the scat nearby had clothing in it. The scavengers would come and go and they may even have ignored a sealed dry bag of food, being either unable to smell it over the strong smell of a decaying body or uninterested in working the bag open when there was such an easy meal right there.
@@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920 I wonder how helpful the scatological evidence is. Do we have to assume whatever ate him immediately took a dump right there?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Except, instead of "undiagnosed medical problem" (which IS viable, too), I thought maybe he just had some accident- Maybe a bad fall, or he badly injurred himself some other way (sure, he was a highly skilled outdoorsman. But freak accidents can happen to ANYONE. And he seems like he had a pretty risky lifestyle). And if that left him either unconscious, badly injurred, or dead, then he'd be easy pickings for a bear or wolf.
Just because you're healthy doesn't mean you can't have a cardiovascular event that ends you. I was 23 and known to be an unstoppable beast. Yet a lot of bad stuff happened and my body couldn't take it. His best friends died so close together, he died of a broken heart, literally.
Well and external health doesn't always show the internal sometimes things go unnoticed because of this idea young athletic people don't have to worry about cardiac events
Fr I knew an athletic kid, fit and ate really well, never was into drugs or alcohol. At 15 he suddenly dropped dead of a heart attack. None of his physicals picked up an underlying heart issue and he never showed or at least mentioned any symptoms.
Yeah and also genetics are another possibility. We don't know his family's medical history. What if his closest relatives have heart issues all over and he himself was the "nah, I'm good, it'll heal on its own" type like most of the hunters I know?
Everyone is talking about heart attacks, but an aneurysm is just as likely and probably explains why a man who was so healthy could just drop dead. Aneurysms can form in the healthiest of people and are silent killers
this is a pretty common pop culture myth. Aneurysms don't just make people drop dead, even in incredibly severe cases where they actually burst (which is generally the only cases where there are any immediately serious complications at all) they *_are_* serious, but the metric you can see from a quick google is "40% of people die within 24 hours", which is a far cry from the instant death that's depicted in most media. Definitely incredibly serious, but not anything like the "whoops you're dead" that you see commonly depicted. Also, he had absolutely none of the markers for someone suseptible to one. He didn't smoke, he was incredibly fit, ate incredibly well, etc. It's certainly possible he was stressed and had high blood pressure, but that'd be a fairly large stretch to make. (especially given the condition he died in)
Don't just write off a death to a medical illness due to the person being the sptting image of health. My wife's stepbrother recently died from a sudden massive heart attack while out hunting with his wife. They're were both up in a tree stand when it happened, and the only reason anyone found out was because his wife was there to witness it and watch helplessly. He was 25, and the model image of good health, better than I could ever say I am. Seriously, you literally CAN meet an unfortunate fate due to a sudden stroke or heart attack.
its certainly not impossible but its really not something to be worried about. its extremely rare and extremely unlikely. such things are caused by an underlying medical condition or illness, thats why its always good to get regular check ups. your probably more likely to win the lottery.
Thank you for representing most of the hunting community so well. I’ve been hunting since I was around eight years old with my dad and you’ve described everything I was taught to do perfectly. A lot of people miss understand what hunting is so it’s refreshing to see someone educate themselves. Thank you!
As a resident of Rogersville, TN (foothills of the Smokies) I really appreciate the effort you take to educate people on the residents of Appalachia and their distinction from the Hollywood stereotype. This is the second episode where I've seen you do this, and that fact alone earned you a sub...plus your content is pretty darned good, too. I will say, the one thing that "hillbillies" have a propensity to do is to apostrophize plurality. You know...like "Now serving ½lb hamburger's!". When you see that, it won't be long before you hear "y'all" and "you'uns", the sound of banjos ,smell the comforting smell of cornbread and soup beans and then you know you're in Appalachia where all "i" pronunciations are lazy and drawled and the people all wave at you, even if you've never met them ..just bc it's the kind and neighborly thing to do. 😉 Thanks again my man. Keep up the good work!
this guy seemed so chill, it was sad to hear at the end that he was dead rather than missing, somehow when someones missing it seems almost more hopeful?
…yet all of the behaviour doesn’t match up. It’s not that something COULD kill him that’s concerning, he’s human- it’s that the food-smelling bag was so untouched, that it still had his indentation in it. None of the bear signs or tells nearby, no cache, nothing. When the lifetime bear-experts say “…I don’t think that could be a bear”, I think I’ll take that analysis to have some weight
As an Alaskan I feel the need to express the fact that Kodiak grizzlies are known to be especially large even for grizzly bear standards, just a fun fact I can’t help but share.
I have seen a video of a couple of grown Kodiaks in a rescue. You know how big they are intellectually, but it not the same as seeing them next to a person. They are freaking huge! Cute and fluffy, but huge.
0:40 the collinsworth edit is easily the most niche, random, and truly comical edit i've seen in a long time... I was just listening to the video, and when you said "now this is a guy" bro i literally thought of chris , then glanced over to see his face pop up
Fun fact! Its believed the main reason most wild animals avoid humans is because we're mostly hairless. In nature, animals without fur are usually sick/ill, so its instinctive to stay away from them unless they're desperate
The main reason most animals avoid humans is because the ones that didn't became man's prey at which point they could no longer reproduced. It's called survival of the fittest. Any gene that increases the likelihood your genes are more represented in the next generation tends to be selected for. Like the ability to avoid an intelligent and adaptive predator like man. Just watch the video of deer ducking arrows as they "jump the string". the arrow was aimed perfectly but after tens of thousands of years being hunted by bows some developed an instinct to immediately run when they hear a bowstring twang. The first part of running is coiling their legs so they can spring off them. This became a huge advantage because the arrow sailed over their back while thrir legs are coiled. The videos showed the arrows flew to the perfect spot for a kill shot had the deer stood still.
I for one TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU and I have NO ULTERIOR MOTIVES WHATSOEVER. Please talk about Wendigos more often, as MUCH AND AS OFTEN as possible!! Feed your hunger and sink your teeth into the warm, bloody brain meats of your curiosity...
@@meredithgrubb4497 I think you are thinking of the skinwalkers, and honestly that is just the english word we assign to them so it would have no real power. Now if you used their actual name thats different. But Wendigo are from an entirely different set of tribes to the far far north. Although as someone might have pointed out the Navaho tribe did just appear in their region one day traveling down from the north and its believed their ancestors were from that region but two different "Creatures"
Poor Bart seems like one of those people that just had extraordinarily weird luck. Like, he got some incredible opportunities but he also had some of the most horrible stuff happen around him. Whatever happened to him, I think he was probably scavenged/dragged off by predators at some point after his death. As for the food, it's possible the wind was just blowing in the wrong direction and the animals never caught its scent, but I also don't really know whether or not I believe predators were actually the cause of death here. It's really hard to tell when there's so much weird about Bart's circumstances in the first place, and all of the weird stuff involving the investigation itself. Had they investigated properly, perhaps an actual cause of death could have been established with more certainty.
If it were animal predators his stuff would've been messed with, and there would've been signs of a struggle. Even if he had dropped dead of a heart attack there would be signs of his body being scavenged/dragged off/more bones/more of his clothes around. It's very weird the way the cops reacted and tried to brush it under the carpet. I suspect he was taken by Earth's apex predator - Man.
The investigation or lack thereof suggests to me that they already feared what took him because the RCMP already knew they were there and didn't want to investigate immediately or at all. It sounds like the most basic investigation by a greenhorn would have put them quickly on the right track. Maybe that is what they were afraid of. The fact that after finally putting boots on the ground that it took them so long to find what was immediately found by untrained people suggest they tried to drive something out of the area before going into it. A large force having noisy, slow approach from far off would most likely have that effect, which sounds like what the RCMP did by design.
I appreciate your respect towards hunting and the bits of extra information you give about it. I’m not a hunter myself, but I’ve known several and it’s a really misunderstood craft.
@@PD-we8vf I try not to refer to other channels too often, but the TH-cam Channel "The Why Files" did a pretty good video about the "Moon Eyed People".
Came across y'all after being a Wendigoon fan. I've been binging your videos for the last 2 days. Love the amount of investigation that goes into the videos, instead of just going with an "agenda." Keep up the great work!
Agree with y’all on the killer being a person angle. Seems far too likely the pilot, a random hunter, or a native tribe was involved. With wendigos there usually isint any remains, feels too “normal” of circumstance to not be a person they did it. It doesn’t really check any of the 411 boxes for supernatural involvement
I thought about the pilot as well. Normally, I would think that the RCMP would rule out the pilot pretty early on but given their lackluster investigation, I wouldn't be that surprised if they didn't.
If a person killed him, why did they take his pants off and scuff them, but just his pants, and then obliterate enough of him to get just a skull fragment and some other bones to leave a ways away from there? Why would a person not just off him and bury him in the woods? He'd never be found. The person angle doesn't make sense to me.
Bart & I are already besties from this description, if there's a fun version of the afterlife, I would love to hear him talk about his stories and go hunting for ghost deer/bears (arguably more dangerous than their living counterparts)
wendigoon in the back 🥰 been loving your videos, i left a comment on your video called hunger if i recall saying that it was triggering however your comment reply was so thoughtful and respectful i really appreciated how you took the time to understand where i was coming from. amazing video as always !
Could the pilot have stuck around for a while and then killed him and left his body for the animals? Idk about motives or anything but considering he hadn't even lit a fire it was still somewhat early in the day when he was killed. Also it sounds like the evidence was pretty open and shut if a few people found his body within a few days of searching. Not sure why that wouldve been too demanding for the mounties other than laziness, financials, or conspiracy. Idk 🤷♀️
Even if you aren’t hunting with a gun or hunting at all, you should probably pack a gun when you go into the middle nowhere/bear country. Minimum requirement for a gun which can actually put a charging bear down is a 357 revolver (revolvers are supposedly better in inclement weather as well.) However, if you actually are being charged by a bear you probably want more, something which you can shoulder unless you have nerves of steel. For people who haven’t used guns, a rifle is infinitely easier to use.
I have two friends that were doing scientific research on Admiralty Island, Alaska. I was an environmental impact study for possible mining operations there. The island has the highest concentration of Kodiak bears in the world. They were charged by a Kodiak bear while walking down a trail through the thick rain forest vegetation. They heard it popping its jaw ahead and knew there was a pissed off bear ahead in the thicket. One had a high powered rifle for bear protection and the other a 12 gauge shotgun. They got ready. Suddenly the bear charged right at them popping out of the brush just 5 yards away on the trail that they were on, and they both barely had time to fire one shot before diving into the thicket to get off the trail the bear was charging down. The bear crumpled up as it got to where they were standing a split second before. They both sprung to their feet and emptied their guns at the motionless bear now lying at their feet. The law said they had to skin any problem bears that had to be killed and turn the claws, hide, and skull into whatever they call their department of fish and game. One of my friends was a taxidermist as a hobby so it was easy for him to do. The bear had two shots in its chest that it took as it charged. but every shot fired at the motionless bear lying at their feet missed the bear completely. They kept their minds right for each of their first shots, but they were to excited to hit something motionless at point blank range after that.
I've been binge-watching your videos ever since I saw you on a Wendigoon video!! :D I was weary at first, but your content is actually one of my favorites now! I'm glad I decided to check your channel out
Aiden in front of the camera is a historian, i think this ads a whole lot of polish to their videos. Im not sure what behind the camera Aiden's background is, bit they make a good ass team!
@@chrism4008 Yeah I was actually very thrilled when I found out that he was a historian! That's really awesome, and I do agree that it adds a lot of polish to their content! And I've actually not watched anything other than their videos ever since I found them because they are just THAT entertaining to me :)
I can relate to the "what would you do if an Elk just appeared" But for me it was a moose, and he was just a couple meters away, (or like 7 feet) Looked at me and then just ran away.
There is a 19-year old Park working currently missing in Glacier National Park in Montana since January 20th. Keeping an eye on the news but so far, I haven’t seen any updates.
17:48 i’m already close to tears- bart seemed like such a genuinely good and wonderful person, knowing that he died so young is heartbreaking. i can only imagine what his loved ones must feel without him. the lack of investigation on his case is disturbing and horrible, he deserved better. i hope his family and loved ones know that he is not just a strange missing 411 case to all of us.
Bart was such a light. People like that are once in a lifetime. I’ve lived in the woods my entire life and have gone hunting for years. Bart is the epitome of a great woodsman. This injustice to him feels like the worst kind of disrespect.
I have to say you did a great job of explaining about Bart & his Hunting. I live in England & Hunting isn't exactly what it is over in the states! Trophy Hunters do annoy me, people who will literally kill any animal they can for a carpet or horns etc. It's such a waste of usually a beautiful animal! Then guys like Bart? Someone that uses as much of the animal they can, food, clothing, bow strings FFS! Then things like the conservation aspect of it, keeping populations in check so all the animals can live healthily & in harmony. Those guys deserve WAY more respect & drop the hate!
26:54 I literally JUST learned about this in a meme talking about jujitsu against a grizzly! Talked about how the grizzly would immediately break your neck and bury you alive to keep you fresh and eat you a couple days later.
I've heard of many bear attacks with food around and the bears completely ignored the food. Maybe he dozed off while sitting there hunting. He just got there that day,set up tent etc..and went hunting. A bear could easily surprise,and they have many times,somebody sleeping and killed them instantly with a crushing bite to them neck. Hence no sign of a struggle and his cap falling off and not getting messed up etc,etc....
The guy was an a-hole, he was a lunatic who endangered the bears and ultimately ended up having 2 bears, his girlfriend and himself killed all to satisfy his own ego. Not to mention all the bears, foxes, etc that were around him would be bolder around humans putting the animals and other people in danger. He kinda deserved it 😂
I used to keep a mummified cat on my front porch to introduce to my friends when I was younger. Named him Kevin. Glad that someone as cool as Bart backed me up on that decision
i used to have an ossified rat that i found in the basement of my family house. I kept them in a 'wunderkammer' along with other odd things I'd collected, including my collection of animal skulls. The prize of my skull collection was a skull from a venerable old black alley cat who used to live behind an apt. I lived in in Oakland, and one day I found him dead and decided to commemorate him. In life he was ornery af but he was a true king of the alley cats.
I love how you do your research and educate people on all topics. My dad was an avid hunter and too many times people don’t understand hunting or the nature of things. Keep up the great work and detailed research!
My Uncle was a little up there, late 50s I think, when he just dropped dead one night. He was very active and had no health issues. That's to say I wouldn't rule out Bart possibly having a heart attack.
Any bow can be made heavy or light, the style is irrelevant, you can make a recurve very heavy and a longbow very light, and when you said composite bow you showed a compound bow. The difference is the efficiency in energy transfer and storage, say you have two bows, one recurve and one longbow of the same quality and draw weight, the recurve will have a slightly higher fps than the longbow, while a compound bow will be massively ahead of both at the same draw weight.
Was going to comment similar and I only just started archery at weekends but have a love of medieval history. Lowest poundage english war longbows are thought to be about 80 pounds. My bf shoots a 50 pound longbow and struggled to draw an 80 so it is massive jumps up. So someone drawing 90 is loads for what people usually shoot nowadays in sport and as a hobby. No clue about hunting tho
A human seems more than likely of a story if there were no conclusive evidence for an animal attack. I mean, let's say there is this person more than willing to kill a man in cold blood, he is not from the area, rather he is himself a hunter and he's an opportunist killer, he goes around in different hunting zones and kills hunters he happens to find for whatever reason. In this case he would have the expertise and the want to kill, Bart might've been unlucky, another victim of a killer that's hard to almost impossible to find since animals and nature itself hides their victims.
As always this is the channel to go to if you want the full unadulterated story,. I learnt some new things here , so great job on the research. This case seems inexplicable, Bart is the last guy you'd think could ever be taken by surprise, by man or beast. The scene makes little sense, about as much sense as the RCMP, didn't exactly trample over each other in their efforts to find him. No idea what to think on this one. Great video.
Love your guys’ stuff been getting really into missing 411 and north american folklore after discovering you and wendigussy. Im actually starting a semester paper on the dennis martin case in one of my classes soon
Pro tip the Canadian RCMP punishes their worst behaved cops by sending them way up north and hoping they either correct themselves or leave the force. So this makes sense. There was one near me who was absolutely brutal, would look for any reason to go after people, ended up in a gunfight with her husband in a suburb actually just down the way from me at the time and last I heard was sent up north for correction. Also random murders do happen in the north, usually with little investigation.
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Maybe instead of being killed by a predator, he was killed by another animal? Like what he was there to hunt: moose. It would explain why his food was untouched if it was just dealing with a perceived threat. While it would be a bit odd for it to catch him offguard, it’s not impossible. Moose can charge rather suddenly. My guess as to why his pants were off and completely intact is that he was taking a dump, or going to at least. Furthermore, both bears and wolves are perfectly happy to scavenge if the opportunity presents itself.
As a guy who has worked out in the woods I’ve seen people get hit by branches multiple times. Luckily none of those people died but getting hit by a real widow maker could take you out. Especially that deep in the shit. I think it’s a possibility he got slammed by a branch, but that’s just a guess.
My first thought was poachers. Poachers will definitely shoot if they think they're going to get caught and then its just leaving the body out and letting nature take its course.
I’m pretty new to missing 411 stuff, but I know about the random missing clothing aspect of those cases, so that weird element of this story really sent a chill down my spine even before you got into the details of why the ‘attack’ didn’t make sense
Honest thought, if I were a person that’d wanna separate myself from modern society and be a far as possible from it, the Yukon is one of those places I’d go. I’m sure that you could live there for 20-30 yrs and never see a person.
My theory is this, Bart went out there and let us say that he wasn't attacked. Let us say that he did had some sort of medical situation happened. It doesn't have to be a heart attack but could have been something else that may prevented him from fighting back. I know, healthy people don't get sick argument will get tossed here, but underling health conditions can still exist even in healthy people. Because of the bear and wolf scatt around, I am going to assume that they smelled either his corpse or just happen to have found Bart in a compromised state. Let us say the wolves found him first and torn away what they can to drag back pieces of him back to their den. Then the leftovers attracted the bear in which case they don't have to get through the clothes to get the meat which hints towards the lack of clothes in their scatt. I mean, he was out there for a good while and if this all did happen on day one of his trip then that is a lot of time for animals to get to his body. Honestly, the greatest shame of this is how the police and Canada Mounties handed this whole thing. Just pure laziness and not willing to do anything at all. They need to be fired or at the very least reduce their wages because they are not doing their job.
My brother is an outfitter in the Yukon and I've spent a fair amount of time up there with him. One thing he constantly reminds me about is that there is at least one hermit or small group of people in what you would think is an isolated, uninhabited area. He always brings useful 'gifts' to leave out for them whenever he enters into an area so that they leave him, his guides, and whoever is with them, alone. These hermits or small groups consider entire valleys, streams, lakes, etc. their backyard and are very territorial. They generally do not want any type of contact because that could bring more attention to their area. But if you seem disrespectful, or are unlucky enough to cross paths with one that is bats**t crazy, unexplained deaths and disappearances happen. Not saying that this is for sure what happened but definitely needs to be considered.
Loving the videos! Loving your voice! I’m not sure how many people do this, but I fall asleep to these videos (because learning about missing people DEFINITELY help people sleep at night). Anyways, I was wondering if the outro music could be turned down a little. Your closing statements are well written, but the music sometimes overpowers your voice and we can’t hear you as well. That, and it’s also a rock music jumpscare lol. If you’re able to read this, Thanks!
Occam’s Razor. It’s evident that Bart was attacked within the first 12-24 hours of arriving. The 2 weeks plus between that day and when his remains were found is crucial. His remains and clothes were not in the location or state they would have been in when he died. Small predators and scavengers will scatter a kill site significantly. It was a grizzly. There are a number of incidents where a grizzly ambushed or snuck up behind someone. There’s a video on YT of a Montana ranger and lifelong hunter who had a female griz drop her cubs off and then circled back around behind him and snuck up to within charging distance and nailed him from behind.He was severely wounded but survived and tells the story himself. A griz is extremely unpredictable and very intelligent.
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Over half the episode on some hunter story, can we get better quality control?
Does mr ballen know you used one of his early add reads in this episode?
Love your channel🏴
What if the terrible FEAR of an accident caused me to drink and drive and caused the accident? Can I sue the inventor of Jack Daniels, corn farmers, Henry Ford, and Canada if I hit a maple tree?
Your dog making the noise every time you said 'talk to animals' was hilarious 🤣
I want to be clear that he was not trained to do that
@@TheLoreLodgeI had one growing up that would bark whenever she heard the word, "pinecones," like someone just cussed at her.
@@danorris5235lmao my friend’s dog goes crazy anytime he hears “haircut?” but not like he’s going to get one, just the word itself sets him off and he runs around screaming
@@TheLoreLodge makes me all the more convinced animals can learn to understand english
@@danorris5235my dog would get mad if you said burlap to her
The more I watch videos like this the more I realize how lazy law enforcement can be.
I think "complicit" is a better word - the authorities know about whatever inhuman/subhuman/half-human predators are comitting these strange head-huntings and murders - and they do not seek to destroy them - they instead placate them and avoid their "territory". Why? If have to make a wild guess: these creatures are connected in some way to the Nephilim; and the authorities are in constant contact with the fallen angels - garnering forbidden knowledge and tech from them in exchange for their ancient offspring being spared annihilation - as well as the authorities having to actively attempt to free the fallen ones. Or maybe it's a supernatural force that the authorities simply do not know HOW to counter. Maybe things become worse when the authorities actively attempt to defeat these forces?
And so much terrible things happen to do many really upstanding people.
@@willemvanstaden3292 Drugs are cool, and I love the SCP implications as much as anyone, but maybe a lower dose next time, homie.
Best joke ever
Almost like you can't trust them and you are the only person you can reply on or something.
Canadian here. If someone I cared about went missing and the RCMP was lead on the case I’m immediately hiring private investigators/trackers to supplement my own and local search parties. That’s putting it mildly.
Indeed
Yup, sad to say but true
Uhhhh...... ABSOLUTELY....... ONE LOOK AT BRENDA LUCKY (RCMP Commissioner) AND THE TOTAL SHITSTORM THAT WAS THE NOVA SCOTIA SHOOTING..... AND OTHER STUPID SHIT....= PURE CORRUPTION AND POLITICAL POLICE FORCE
This is so true tho because most canadian cases are just showing incompetence and laziness
American here. I trust the rcmp as much as I trust the fbi. Not one darn bit.
im really sorry to hear about your attack. hope they find the squach that did it to you and throw the book at him
#notallbigfoots
#notallbigfoots
Interestingly, some US states have actual laws on the books relating to big foot. For example, a law in Texas saying that it’s perfectly fine to shoot one.
Thank Heavens for Morgan and Morgan
It's cause he did not Pity the Gourd
The thing that always gets me about this case (and the only reason I remember this case) is because of that fucking bag. Bart had food in that bag. Even people who don't know jack shit about bears know they love people food - they will break into houses, cars, trashcans etc. to get to it. So you have a bag w/ food in it sitting a few yards away from the remains of Bart. A bag which, after a week, was still untouched w/ the indentation of where Bart was sitting still embedded in it. Not disturbed in the slightest. Not to mention the rest of his supplies. Weird. Really fucking weird.
Even if this was a murder - someone came and offed Bart for sport or some awful shit - that still doesn't explain why animals never raided his supplies. Even something small, like a fox.
I’d also like to add to your point about the supposed bear not touching his other supplies
It was late September early October. During this season a hibernating bear’s daily calorie intake goes from ~5,000 calories a day to fuckin 20,000 calories a day.
The time frame matches up to when a bear would literally eat any and everything it physically could stomach in order to prepare for hibernation.
Would it have been a bag that is sealed to prevent the scent of food from getting out? Sounds like something useful for bear country. I don't live/camp in bear country so I don't know if this is really a thing.
@@Thomas62374 Its not a thing as far as i know... they can always smell something thats why you go around 200 feet away to hang your food (overnight) & also cook in a different location & also change the clothes you cook in (leave the clothes there too some people clean it there too) so you try to cook close to a water source. But tbh I don't camp like that (long hikes & camping on the trails)
Bears have a reputation for loving people food because there is a high correlation between bears that live around people and bears that have learned that people have good food. Unfortunately for Bart, he was not around these bears.
dude that honestly is a mind breaking thought. animals not doing their typical animal thing is extremely weird.
The detail about how the alaskan wildlife photographer was eaten alive and the audio was recorded is freaking horrifying. Some awful morbid part of me wants to look it up but there’s no way I’m doing that. My god that’s terrifying.
Not only did he get himself eaten, but also his girlfriend. If you're interested there's a documentary called "grizzly man" about him. He thought he could talk to them and that the bears shared a "bond" with him. He recorded himself being eaten by a bear, telling his girlfriend to hit the bear with a pan, and got her killed too. They won't release the real audio because of messed up it is but they recreated it I guess
😧 Such a fucking nightmare!
His name was Timothy Treadwell and he was well known with the local wildlife agencies for getting way too close to the bears. He and his girlfriend were also in the area later in the year than usual, so the bears were hungry and looking for calorie-dense foods. I've heard that Mr. Treadwell could recognize the bears that were "regulars" in the areas he stayed in and the bear that killed him wasn't one he knew, so I guess maybe he did have a reasonable sense of how safe he was around familiar bears. But still, his story is a lesson in why you always respect a wild animal's ability to hurt or kill you. You don't get a special pass just because you feel like you have a "bond" with them.
@@GrandpasRevenge43 oh christ, that’s even more tragic
I'm morbidly curious as well but just not there, ready to seek it out, yet.
If you do, come back please and give a short summary or let us know whether it is not for the faint of heart, please?
Bart sounds like the absolute chillest dude. Would have loved to put back some beers and Glizzies with him. RIP
Bears and grizzlies? Lol
The Kwijibo got him. For those old enough to remember the Simpson's season 1.
glizzy gobblin
I'd get a glizzy with that guy. Why not?
I think the Glizzies killed him
If anybody’s curious about the Alaskan wildlife photographer mentioned, his name was Timothy Treadwell. He spent thirteen summers camping around grizzlies on the Katmai Coast, trying to get as close to them as possible, even touching them and interacting with cubs. He and his girlfriend Amie Huguenard were eaten by a 28-year-old male in 2003
I've seen the video. It's fucking gruesome.
@@Si_Sireeni Why does this video need to exist?
@@edorasmarauder5761 he was recording at the time
@@Si_Sireeni There wasn't any video, only audio, and it was destroyed. (you'd know that if you watched the video you're commenting under) You absolutely have not seen any "video" of this event. Moron
@@dusky6280 see deez nuts
Couple, friendly, factual corrections. I worked with a bunch of the P&W people involved in some of the grizzly studies you mentioned back when I was in uni.
So, for bear attack, there's a ton of common misconceptions around the best thing to do. The data are pretty clear in it, however.
1) If it hasn't seen you yet, back away slowly and try to remain unseen.
2) If it has seen you, slowly back away but talk to it and let it know you're human.
3) If it charges you, scream and make yourself big. Almost all charges are bluff charges. Call it's bluff like your life depends on it (it does).
4) If it slowly, steadily approaches you, this is actually the worst. This is textbook predatory behavior. Scream, yell, make yourself big, throw stuff. Prepare to fight for your life because it's decided you'd look real nice as human-sushi with a side of spare ribs.
Under no circumstances, ever, short of you being within feet of your car, or shelter, should you run. This will trigger a predation response even in a curious bear.
Also, playing dead only works if the bear was acting in defense, and you hadn't triggered a predation response. So unless you're REALLY confident in your ability to read bear body language before the attack, you're much better off fighting....
On a separate note, the shape of a bow really has nothing to do with it's inherent strength. You can have a 200 lb recurve bow and a 10 lb longbow. The same actually applies to shortbows which are frequently misunderstood as "weaker" than a longbow.
The power of a bow is determined purely by the resistance of the limbs.
Now, the limb shape will help determine things like the angle an arrow will take when it first leaves the bow, but the arrow will be moving at the same speed and travel the same distance as it would with a differently-shaped bow of the same draw weight.
You can think of it sorta like shooting a .22 round out of a handgun or a rifle. There are advantages and disadvantages to each, but the "strength" of the bullet is essentially the same.
While you’re correct I do want to point out that a .22 fired out of a semi automatic pistol would be vastly less powerful than a .22 fired out of a Bolt action rifle
Simply because in a semi automatic or automatic, some of the Gas/Force is used to rotate the bolt and chamber a new round. While in a bolt action every little bit of that energy and gas is pushed out of the barrel and none of its wasted
Your comparison with guns would work better if you were to say that the barrel length doesn’t make a difference in force, because as for as energy and force goes they actually aren’t equal
@@eshanroveran7850 yeah, I actually thought of that before posting. Also thought about the impact of rifling on the accuracy of the slug and some of the other factors.
I sorta went back and forth about changing it but ultimately settled on it being "close enough."
For example, you can make the argument that the limb geometry of bows does change the trajectory of the arrow in flight, so it's not that there is "no" difference between a 90 lb. longbow and a 90 lb. recurve bow, but more that at the end of the day, they both were roughly the same in terms of their stopping power.
So, even though I know a rifle essentially gets "more use" out of the same amount of powder, I figured the overall analogy still stands since, in my experience, the length and rifling of a barrel is much more important in terms of it's benefits to accuracy than it is to increasing stopping power.
Maybe a cleaner analogy for it would be, "if you wouldn't hunt a moose with a .22 in a hand gun, upgrading to a rifle really isn't gonna do much either. You just need need more firepower" and by the same token, "if a 60 lb recurve bow isn't enough to bring down your target, switching to a 60 lb longbow is really not likely to change much."
A friendly correction to you in turn: if bear not friend, why cute, hm?
@@Kellethorn I suspect Bart's case was #4, and it may have attacked him while he was sleeping.
Does it matter at all depending on the type of bear? I’ve heard what you should do can differ whether you’re facing a grizzly or black bear. Not sure how true that is lol
Bart seems like one of the coolest people I've ever heard of. Every fact/anecdote just made him better and better. These cases are always so sad, but this one really gets me. What a legend. RIP Bart
Anybody that would eat raw Skunk has a screw loose.
This video is a very glossed-over positive portrayal lol clearly left out all negatives and just listed as many positive words and synonyms as possible, for some reason
Not that that means he wasn’t cool, though, just that this video guzzles his nuts a bit haha
He was a cool guy but this video really really really does not cover Bart as a person (properly or thoroughly enough). I'd recommend doing even deeper research genuinely.
Man even despite knowing what was gonna happen, I got really invested in learning about Bart's life, thank you for including that.
Bart sounds like the type of dude I would want to go hunting with. I can definitely appreciate the sense of humor with taxidermy or mummified animals, the love of nature, and the absolute backwoods badassery that this man exhibited. May his legacy never be forgotten.
As a hunter i can say contrary to your statment, yes its entirely possible for him to have been snuck up on, but its also highly likly that somthing simple like him having been sleepy and nooding off only to get attacked by a predator of some kind. Or some combination like that to have happened. Even the most skilled and highly trained people still mess up or get blindsided from time to time in any field.
Sir your are a man of extreme intelligence and rational thought ....cudos for not being a duck
That doesn't explain why the food that he left just a couple of yards away from him was untouched.
Why would a large preditor care about human food or stuff? Assuming it's not a bare, but even then, why would something that just got itself around 200 pounds of meat care about other food in the area?
@@DipsAndPushups The food is just as likely to be eaten either way. if he just got lost somewhere, animals would still eat it. But if he was their meal they are more likely to leave it alone. But a large apex predator in the area can make lesser predators skiddish or simply leave the area. But even if he just dropped the bags in camp or where his bow was found and beamed up to a starship the bags are just as likely to be ripped open for any food that can be smelled unless a big corpse is available t be eaten instead. If the predator scent marked the spot after the kill other animals would leave it alone.
@@treyt3764 He was killed by a dogman. That's the large predator that marked the scent
Being eaten alive by a bear has to be one of the worst ways to die. Just thinking about it freaks me out!
You should check out mr ballen’s video “man who was eaten alive by a bear,” or something like that
I theorize that Bart was dead and his body just scavenged. I think the strongest possibility is an undiagnosed medical condition that caused his death. Of course, with so little of the remains recovered, it’s impossible to say for sure.
If his body was scavenged there would be obvious signs of it.
This would explain why there were no signs of a struggle and none of the scat nearby had clothing in it. The scavengers would come and go and they may even have ignored a sealed dry bag of food, being either unable to smell it over the strong smell of a decaying body or uninterested in working the bag open when there was such an easy meal right there.
@@clobberelladoesntreadcomme9920 I wonder how helpful the scatological evidence is. Do we have to assume whatever ate him immediately took a dump right there?
Yeah, that's what I thought. Except, instead of "undiagnosed medical problem" (which IS viable, too), I thought maybe he just had some accident- Maybe a bad fall, or he badly injurred himself some other way (sure, he was a highly skilled outdoorsman. But freak accidents can happen to ANYONE. And he seems like he had a pretty risky lifestyle).
And if that left him either unconscious, badly injurred, or dead, then he'd be easy pickings for a bear or wolf.
@@baconsarny-geddon8298 That’s a good point.
Just because you're healthy doesn't mean you can't have a cardiovascular event that ends you.
I was 23 and known to be an unstoppable beast. Yet a lot of bad stuff happened and my body couldn't take it.
His best friends died so close together, he died of a broken heart, literally.
Omg you're right, then he could have been gnawed at by scavengers, picked at and eaten. The poor man, what an unfortunate end to a life.
Well and external health doesn't always show the internal sometimes things go unnoticed because of this idea young athletic people don't have to worry about cardiac events
Fr I knew an athletic kid, fit and ate really well, never was into drugs or alcohol. At 15 he suddenly dropped dead of a heart attack. None of his physicals picked up an underlying heart issue and he never showed or at least mentioned any symptoms.
Yeah and also genetics are another possibility. We don't know his family's medical history. What if his closest relatives have heart issues all over and he himself was the "nah, I'm good, it'll heal on its own" type like most of the hunters I know?
Everyone is talking about heart attacks, but an aneurysm is just as likely and probably explains why a man who was so healthy could just drop dead. Aneurysms can form in the healthiest of people and are silent killers
this is a pretty common pop culture myth. Aneurysms don't just make people drop dead, even in incredibly severe cases where they actually burst (which is generally the only cases where there are any immediately serious complications at all) they *_are_* serious, but the metric you can see from a quick google is "40% of people die within 24 hours", which is a far cry from the instant death that's depicted in most media.
Definitely incredibly serious, but not anything like the "whoops you're dead" that you see commonly depicted. Also, he had absolutely none of the markers for someone suseptible to one. He didn't smoke, he was incredibly fit, ate incredibly well, etc. It's certainly possible he was stressed and had high blood pressure, but that'd be a fairly large stretch to make. (especially given the condition he died in)
Don't just write off a death to a medical illness due to the person being the sptting image of health.
My wife's stepbrother recently died from a sudden massive heart attack while out hunting with his wife. They're were both up in a tree stand when it happened, and the only reason anyone found out was because his wife was there to witness it and watch helplessly.
He was 25, and the model image of good health, better than I could ever say I am. Seriously, you literally CAN meet an unfortunate fate due to a sudden stroke or heart attack.
He'd probably gotten the clot shot AKA covid "v@ccine". That wasn't happening when this story took place.
@user-tl9gz3ic5y he was unvaxxed, and the big 'Vid was not ruled as a factor believe it or not. It was completely out of the blue.
@@UpToSpeedOnJaguar crazy. Sorry to hear that
I'm genuinely sorry to hear that dude. However while it shouldn't be written off as a possibility, it *is* arguably extremely, extremely unlikely.
its certainly not impossible but its really not something to be worried about. its extremely rare and extremely unlikely. such things are caused by an underlying medical condition or illness, thats why its always good to get regular check ups. your probably more likely to win the lottery.
Thank you for representing most of the hunting community so well. I’ve been hunting since I was around eight years old with my dad and you’ve described everything I was taught to do perfectly. A lot of people miss understand what hunting is so it’s refreshing to see someone educate themselves. Thank you!
Most accurate take on game hunting I've seen. The culture is rarely represented so closely.
It was refreshing.
As a resident of Rogersville, TN (foothills of the Smokies) I really appreciate the effort you take to educate people on the residents of Appalachia and their distinction from the Hollywood stereotype. This is the second episode where I've seen you do this, and that fact alone earned you a sub...plus your content is pretty darned good, too. I will say, the one thing that "hillbillies" have a propensity to do is to apostrophize plurality. You know...like "Now serving ½lb hamburger's!". When you see that, it won't be long before you hear "y'all" and "you'uns", the sound of banjos ,smell the comforting smell of cornbread and soup beans and then you know you're in Appalachia where all "i" pronunciations are lazy and drawled and the people all wave at you, even if you've never met them ..just bc it's the kind and neighborly thing to do. 😉 Thanks again my man. Keep up the good work!
like "nahs whaht rahs"? that's what we have over in Canton NC, that phrase coming to mind as i've seen it in a translation key in a dictionary even
This is why you have to have two cameras when you're in the woods. One with the camera flash, the other with the muzzle flash
this guy seemed so chill, it was sad to hear at the end that he was dead rather than missing, somehow when someones missing it seems almost more hopeful?
There's an old saying in Wyoming: There ain't a horse that can't be rode, or a cowboy who can't be throwed. Maybe he just found that one bear.
…yet all of the behaviour doesn’t match up.
It’s not that something COULD kill him that’s concerning, he’s human- it’s that the food-smelling bag was so untouched, that it still had his indentation in it. None of the bear signs or tells nearby, no cache, nothing.
When the lifetime bear-experts say “…I don’t think that could be a bear”, I think I’ll take that analysis to have some weight
As an Alaskan I feel the need to express the fact that Kodiak grizzlies are known to be especially large even for grizzly bear standards, just a fun fact I can’t help but share.
I have seen a video of a couple of grown Kodiaks in a rescue. You know how big they are intellectually, but it not the same as seeing them next to a person. They are freaking huge! Cute and fluffy, but huge.
It was mentioned in the video with the exact same words, but thanks.
0:40 the collinsworth edit is easily the most niche, random, and truly comical edit i've seen in a long time... I was just listening to the video, and when you said "now this is a guy" bro i literally thought of chris , then glanced over to see his face pop up
Fun fact! Its believed the main reason most wild animals avoid humans is because we're mostly hairless. In nature, animals without fur are usually sick/ill, so its instinctive to stay away from them unless they're desperate
The main reason most animals avoid humans is because the ones that didn't became man's prey at which point they could no longer reproduced. It's called survival of the fittest. Any gene that increases the likelihood your genes are more represented in the next generation tends to be selected for. Like the ability to avoid an intelligent and adaptive predator like man. Just watch the video of deer ducking arrows as they "jump the string". the arrow was aimed perfectly but after tens of thousands of years being hunted by bows some developed an instinct to immediately run when they hear a bowstring twang. The first part of running is coiling their legs so they can spring off them. This became a huge advantage because the arrow sailed over their back while thrir legs are coiled. The videos showed the arrows flew to the perfect spot for a kill shot had the deer stood still.
15:53 - Aidan calling baby Siberian Tigers “kittens” is awesome and I’m here for it.
I mean that with respect and love. Please don’t ever change. 😻
Bart was a friggen RPG Protag with his shenaniganry from the sounds of it.
Damn, im mourning this guy at this point in the story bc of how great he sounds
He genuinely sounds like an amazing guy
Yo, your channel truly is the best out there, keep up the great work guys!
Thank you!
If you like this channel do yourself a favor and check out Belief Hole Podcast. It's on TH-cam and absolutely phenomenal
Wendigos are lowkey terrifying, but somehow are a mesmerising concept that I feel isn't talked about enough around the world.
"lowkey"
Whaaaat? Wen-who? Could you say it again?
They r not supposed to be talked about if one really believes in them.
I for one TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU and I have NO ULTERIOR MOTIVES WHATSOEVER. Please talk about Wendigos more often, as MUCH AND AS OFTEN as possible!! Feed your hunger and sink your teeth into the warm, bloody brain meats of your curiosity...
@@meredithgrubb4497 I think you are thinking of the skinwalkers, and honestly that is just the english word we assign to them so it would have no real power. Now if you used their actual name thats different. But Wendigo are from an entirely different set of tribes to the far far north. Although as someone might have pointed out the Navaho tribe did just appear in their region one day traveling down from the north and its believed their ancestors were from that region but two different "Creatures"
You do a really great job of introducing these individuals and painting a picture of who they were. Thanks for making these videos so engaging.
Poor Bart seems like one of those people that just had extraordinarily weird luck. Like, he got some incredible opportunities but he also had some of the most horrible stuff happen around him. Whatever happened to him, I think he was probably scavenged/dragged off by predators at some point after his death. As for the food, it's possible the wind was just blowing in the wrong direction and the animals never caught its scent, but I also don't really know whether or not I believe predators were actually the cause of death here. It's really hard to tell when there's so much weird about Bart's circumstances in the first place, and all of the weird stuff involving the investigation itself. Had they investigated properly, perhaps an actual cause of death could have been established with more certainty.
If it were animal predators his stuff would've been messed with, and there would've been signs of a struggle. Even if he had dropped dead of a heart attack there would be signs of his body being scavenged/dragged off/more bones/more of his clothes around. It's very weird the way the cops reacted and tried to brush it under the carpet.
I suspect he was taken by Earth's apex predator - Man.
The investigation or lack thereof suggests to me that they already feared what took him because the RCMP already knew they were there and didn't want to investigate immediately or at all. It sounds like the most basic investigation by a greenhorn would have put them quickly on the right track. Maybe that is what they were afraid of. The fact that after finally putting boots on the ground that it took them so long to find what was immediately found by untrained people suggest they tried to drive something out of the area before going into it. A large force having noisy, slow approach from far off would most likely have that effect, which sounds like what the RCMP did by design.
I appreciate your respect towards hunting and the bits of extra information you give about it. I’m not a hunter myself, but I’ve known several and it’s a really misunderstood craft.
No it isn't
Aidan, your take on these cases are excellent journalism. The way you present the story is very engaging & respectful to the victims. Thank you.
I’d love to hear you talk about the moon eyed people! I find it so interesting but never see anyone talk about it.
Where are they?
@@PD-we8vf I try not to refer to other channels too often, but the TH-cam Channel "The Why Files" did a pretty good video about the "Moon Eyed People".
Came across y'all after being a Wendigoon fan. I've been binging your videos for the last 2 days. Love the amount of investigation that goes into the videos, instead of just going with an "agenda." Keep up the great work!
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Agree with y’all on the killer being a person angle. Seems far too likely the pilot, a random hunter, or a native tribe was involved. With wendigos there usually isint any remains, feels too “normal” of circumstance to not be a person they did it. It doesn’t really check any of the 411 boxes for supernatural involvement
I thought about the pilot as well. Normally, I would think that the RCMP would rule out the pilot pretty early on but given their lackluster investigation, I wouldn't be that surprised if they didn't.
a think it was person like.. but not a person
Do we know who the pilot was? that was my first instinct too.
Because Wendigos actually exist lmao stop larping
If a person killed him, why did they take his pants off and scuff them, but just his pants, and then obliterate enough of him to get just a skull fragment and some other bones to leave a ways away from there? Why would a person not just off him and bury him in the woods? He'd never be found.
The person angle doesn't make sense to me.
I’ve heard Bart’s story a few times but this one has so much more back story and gets into his life much more than any other. Well done
Bart & I are already besties from this description, if there's a fun version of the afterlife, I would love to hear him talk about his stories and go hunting for ghost deer/bears (arguably more dangerous than their living counterparts)
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wendigoon in the back 🥰 been loving your videos, i left a comment on your video called hunger if i recall saying that it was triggering however your comment reply was so thoughtful and respectful i really appreciated how you took the time to understand where i was coming from. amazing video as always !
Could the pilot have stuck around for a while and then killed him and left his body for the animals? Idk about motives or anything but considering he hadn't even lit a fire it was still somewhat early in the day when he was killed. Also it sounds like the evidence was pretty open and shut if a few people found his body within a few days of searching. Not sure why that wouldve been too demanding for the mounties other than laziness, financials, or conspiracy. Idk 🤷♀️
Cold Night, Light's out, A couple lit candles & Listening to the Lore Lodge. Make's for a Cozy🌙Night.
Doing the same
Wind howling here - also adds to the atmosphere
Thank you for explaining why hunting tags are so important to keep the balance.
Even if you aren’t hunting with a gun or hunting at all, you should probably pack a gun when you go into the middle nowhere/bear country.
Minimum requirement for a gun which can actually put a charging bear down is a 357 revolver (revolvers are supposedly better in inclement weather as well.) However, if you actually are being charged by a bear you probably want more, something which you can shoulder unless you have nerves of steel. For people who haven’t used guns, a rifle is infinitely easier to use.
Guns are a good backup for bows and bows are a good backup for guns
@@lillianflorence-gy4mu And a back up for all is a knife, something sharp for close range when push comes to shove. Hell, a sword would also do.
@@samuraijackoff5354 yeah, you're not using a knife or sword to kill a bear
I have two friends that were doing scientific research on Admiralty Island, Alaska. I was an environmental impact study for possible mining operations there. The island has the highest concentration of Kodiak bears in the world. They were charged by a Kodiak bear while walking down a trail through the thick rain forest vegetation. They heard it popping its jaw ahead and knew there was a pissed off bear ahead in the thicket. One had a high powered rifle for bear protection and the other a 12 gauge shotgun. They got ready. Suddenly the bear charged right at them popping out of the brush just 5 yards away on the trail that they were on, and they both barely had time to fire one shot before diving into the thicket to get off the trail the bear was charging down. The bear crumpled up as it got to where they were standing a split second before. They both sprung to their feet and emptied their guns at the motionless bear now lying at their feet.
The law said they had to skin any problem bears that had to be killed and turn the claws, hide, and skull into whatever they call their department of fish and game. One of my friends was a taxidermist as a hobby so it was easy for him to do. The bear had two shots in its chest that it took as it charged. but every shot fired at the motionless bear lying at their feet missed the bear completely. They kept their minds right for each of their first shots, but they were to excited to hit something motionless at point blank range after that.
I've been binge-watching your videos ever since I saw you on a Wendigoon video!! :D
I was weary at first, but your content is actually one of my favorites now! I'm glad I decided to check your channel out
Aiden in front of the camera is a historian, i think this ads a whole lot of polish to their videos. Im not sure what behind the camera Aiden's background is, bit they make a good ass team!
@@chrism4008 Yeah I was actually very thrilled when I found out that he was a historian! That's really awesome, and I do agree that it adds a lot of polish to their content! And I've actually not watched anything other than their videos ever since I found them because they are just THAT entertaining to me :)
I can relate to the "what would you do if an Elk just appeared"
But for me it was a moose, and he was just a couple meters away, (or like 7 feet) Looked at me and then just ran away.
Probably spooked him
There is a 19-year old Park working currently missing in Glacier National Park in Montana since January 20th. Keeping an eye on the news but so far, I haven’t seen any updates.
Wish I could double like for the fact you pointed out conservation hunting and its benefits.
17:48 i’m already close to tears- bart seemed like such a genuinely good and wonderful person, knowing that he died so young is heartbreaking. i can only imagine what his loved ones must feel without him. the lack of investigation on his case is disturbing and horrible, he deserved better. i hope his family and loved ones know that he is not just a strange missing 411 case to all of us.
Bart was such a light. People like that are once in a lifetime. I’ve lived in the woods my entire life and have gone hunting for years. Bart is the epitome of a great woodsman. This injustice to him feels like the worst kind of disrespect.
I have to say you did a great job of explaining about Bart & his Hunting. I live in England & Hunting isn't exactly what it is over in the states!
Trophy Hunters do annoy me, people who will literally kill any animal they can for a carpet or horns etc. It's such a waste of usually a beautiful animal!
Then guys like Bart? Someone that uses as much of the animal they can, food, clothing, bow strings FFS! Then things like the conservation aspect of it, keeping populations in check so all the animals can live healthily & in harmony. Those guys deserve WAY more respect & drop the hate!
Amazing job. I absolutely loved how you did this one. It made me really invested in this person.
26:54 I literally JUST learned about this in a meme talking about jujitsu against a grizzly! Talked about how the grizzly would immediately break your neck and bury you alive to keep you fresh and eat you a couple days later.
I've heard of many bear attacks with food around and the bears completely ignored the food. Maybe he dozed off while sitting there hunting. He just got there that day,set up tent etc..and went hunting. A bear could easily surprise,and they have many times,somebody sleeping and killed them instantly with a crushing bite to them neck. Hence no sign of a struggle and his cap falling off and not getting messed up etc,etc....
I think I know who you’re talking about in that Alaska case. Timothy Treadwell, Professional Bear Wrangler. What a guy.
That’s correct
The guy was an a-hole, he was a lunatic who endangered the bears and ultimately ended up having 2 bears, his girlfriend and himself killed all to satisfy his own ego. Not to mention all the bears, foxes, etc that were around him would be bolder around humans putting the animals and other people in danger. He kinda deserved it 😂
Thing is, how does one sue Bigfoot without knowing their address?
Pretty hard to serve papers to a hairy multidimensional giant 🤣🤣
No worries, you can just call it in with some woods knocks and whooping 🗣
He has a PO-box
You send the lawyer to his place of work.
8:55 you forgot the Rizzly Bear. 😭
Your dog was telling you " Yea I talked to Bart a couple times, he was a good dude. " 😂🤣
I used to keep a mummified cat on my front porch to introduce to my friends when I was younger. Named him Kevin.
Glad that someone as cool as Bart backed me up on that decision
i used to have an ossified rat that i found in the basement of my family house. I kept them in a 'wunderkammer' along with other odd things I'd collected, including my collection of animal skulls. The prize of my skull collection was a skull from a venerable old black alley cat who used to live behind an apt. I lived in in Oakland, and one day I found him dead and decided to commemorate him. In life he was ornery af but he was a true king of the alley cats.
We have a "Garden of Dead Things" that has a few mummified lizards, snake skins, iridescent beetles, we just appreciate the small stuff, yeah?
What the hell is wrong with you guys
@@OpasgegenLinks lots of things, but that's unrelated to the cat 🤔
@@almishti I'm not trying to be rude. But that is extremely, extremely concerning. Talk to a therapist, "Kat."
Came back after a long break and I am SO proud of how far you guys have come. Keep it up!
Thank you for doing this video. His death has always had so many questions. I love your channel!. Great stuff!!.
I love how you explain about hunting. South African living in Australia. Only found you today and binge-watching your videos. Keep it up dude!
The RCMP knows something they don't want the rest of us to know.
I love how you do your research and educate people on all topics. My dad was an avid hunter and too many times people don’t understand hunting or the nature of things. Keep up the great work and detailed research!
My Uncle was a little up there, late 50s I think, when he just dropped dead one night. He was very active and had no health issues. That's to say I wouldn't rule out Bart possibly having a heart attack.
Loved hearing about this man's personality, he sounded like a very sweet, funny and bright soul. ❤️
Any bow can be made heavy or light, the style is irrelevant, you can make a recurve very heavy and a longbow very light, and when you said composite bow you showed a compound bow. The difference is the efficiency in energy transfer and storage, say you have two bows, one recurve and one longbow of the same quality and draw weight, the recurve will have a slightly higher fps than the longbow, while a compound bow will be massively ahead of both at the same draw weight.
I was going for a general summary of their historic use more than anything, and the images were an error by the editor
Was going to comment similar and I only just started archery at weekends but have a love of medieval history. Lowest poundage english war longbows are thought to be about 80 pounds. My bf shoots a 50 pound longbow and struggled to draw an 80 so it is massive jumps up. So someone drawing 90 is loads for what people usually shoot nowadays in sport and as a hobby. No clue about hunting tho
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A human seems more than likely of a story if there were no conclusive evidence for an animal attack.
I mean, let's say there is this person more than willing to kill a man in cold blood, he is not from the area, rather he is himself a hunter and he's an opportunist killer, he goes around in different hunting zones and kills hunters he happens to find for whatever reason. In this case he would have the expertise and the want to kill, Bart might've been unlucky, another victim of a killer that's hard to almost impossible to find since animals and nature itself hides their victims.
As always this is the channel to go to if you want the full unadulterated story,. I learnt some new things here , so great job on the research. This case seems inexplicable, Bart is the last guy you'd think could ever be taken by surprise, by man or beast. The scene makes little sense, about as much sense as the RCMP, didn't exactly trample over each other in their efforts to find him. No idea what to think on this one. Great video.
Love your guys’ stuff been getting really into missing 411 and north american folklore after discovering you and wendigussy. Im actually starting a semester paper on the dennis martin case in one of my classes soon
Missing 411 is David Pauldise's work. He also has a YT channel called Canam missing project.
I come for the theories I stay for the absolute fire intro and outro
Gritty Bear!!😂😂😂 9:25 Love it! I'm a Tampa Bay Lightning fan, but Gritty is HANDS DOWN the BEST mascot in any sport!
Pro tip the Canadian RCMP punishes their worst behaved cops by sending them way up north and hoping they either correct themselves or leave the force. So this makes sense. There was one near me who was absolutely brutal, would look for any reason to go after people, ended up in a gunfight with her husband in a suburb actually just down the way from me at the time and last I heard was sent up north for correction.
Also random murders do happen in the north, usually with little investigation.
I don’t know who makes these thumbnails, but an absolute A+ for that demented Philadelphia Flyer mascot thingy.
FREEDOM UNITS. Freaking fantastic, sir😂🇺🇲
I absolutely adore your channel. Keep up the amazing work. 👏
It's a good thing other people are willing to "cull the herd" because every time I see a grizzly bear I just want to hug it. 🥰
Lol it's ironic cuz they want to hug us too....violently.
I think that desire you’re describing is called natural selection
I found this channel last night!
And you know this girl is on a binge watch sunday
I'm so happy to be here your content is off the charts kudos to you brother/brothers 😘🤯🧐☠👹👻👽😱💙💙💙💙
Love your videos! The intro music is a bit loud tho! 😊
We keep turning it lower and people keep saying that 😂
Really enjoying your podcasts.
Well spoken and sharing good details. Also, I'm a big Paulides fan. Great topics.
Maybe instead of being killed by a predator, he was killed by another animal? Like what he was there to hunt: moose. It would explain why his food was untouched if it was just dealing with a perceived threat. While it would be a bit odd for it to catch him offguard, it’s not impossible. Moose can charge rather suddenly. My guess as to why his pants were off and completely intact is that he was taking a dump, or going to at least. Furthermore, both bears and wolves are perfectly happy to scavenge if the opportunity presents itself.
Absolutely brilliant video, so much info, the best video about the Bart Schleyer disappearance I have seen 🧐
As a guy who has worked out in the woods I’ve seen people get hit by branches multiple times. Luckily none of those people died but getting hit by a real widow maker could take you out. Especially that deep in the shit. I think it’s a possibility he got slammed by a branch, but that’s just a guess.
I verbally said "fuck yeah" when I saw you uploaded a new video. Great channel!!
My first thought was poachers. Poachers will definitely shoot if they think they're going to get caught and then its just leaving the body out and letting nature take its course.
Its canada, not africa
I’m pretty new to missing 411 stuff, but I know about the random missing clothing aspect of those cases, so that weird element of this story really sent a chill down my spine even before you got into the details of why the ‘attack’ didn’t make sense
Honest thought, if I were a person that’d wanna separate myself from modern society and be a far as possible from it, the Yukon is one of those places I’d go. I’m sure that you could live there for 20-30 yrs and never see a person.
A well researched and excellently detailed, intelligent account
My theory is this, Bart went out there and let us say that he wasn't attacked. Let us say that he did had some sort of medical situation happened. It doesn't have to be a heart attack but could have been something else that may prevented him from fighting back. I know, healthy people don't get sick argument will get tossed here, but underling health conditions can still exist even in healthy people. Because of the bear and wolf scatt around, I am going to assume that they smelled either his corpse or just happen to have found Bart in a compromised state. Let us say the wolves found him first and torn away what they can to drag back pieces of him back to their den. Then the leftovers attracted the bear in which case they don't have to get through the clothes to get the meat which hints towards the lack of clothes in their scatt. I mean, he was out there for a good while and if this all did happen on day one of his trip then that is a lot of time for animals to get to his body.
Honestly, the greatest shame of this is how the police and Canada Mounties handed this whole thing. Just pure laziness and not willing to do anything at all. They need to be fired or at the very least reduce their wages because they are not doing their job.
Great episode really enjoyed this one.
What a guy, put some respect on his name! To do what he did 20-30 years ago... Absolute unit and legend
My brother is an outfitter in the Yukon and I've spent a fair amount of time up there with him. One thing he constantly reminds me about is that there is at least one hermit or small group of people in what you would think is an isolated, uninhabited area. He always brings useful 'gifts' to leave out for them whenever he enters into an area so that they leave him, his guides, and whoever is with them, alone. These hermits or small groups consider entire valleys, streams, lakes, etc. their backyard and are very territorial. They generally do not want any type of contact because that could bring more attention to their area. But if you seem disrespectful, or are unlucky enough to cross paths with one that is bats**t crazy, unexplained deaths and disappearances happen.
Not saying that this is for sure what happened but definitely needs to be considered.
I mean, good advice and all,, but I do reserve my right to worry even if I see a grizzly bear from afar.
Loving the videos! Loving your voice! I’m not sure how many people do this, but I fall asleep to these videos (because learning about missing people DEFINITELY help people sleep at night). Anyways, I was wondering if the outro music could be turned down a little. Your closing statements are well written, but the music sometimes overpowers your voice and we can’t hear you as well. That, and it’s also a rock music jumpscare lol. If you’re able to read this, Thanks!
Occam’s Razor. It’s evident that Bart was attacked within the first 12-24 hours of arriving. The 2 weeks plus between that day and when his remains were found is crucial. His remains and clothes were not in the location or state they would have been in when he died. Small predators and scavengers will scatter a kill site significantly. It was a grizzly.
There are a number of incidents where a grizzly ambushed or snuck up behind someone.
There’s a video on YT of a Montana ranger and lifelong hunter who had a female griz drop her cubs off and then circled back around behind him and snuck up to within charging distance and nailed him from behind.He was severely wounded but survived and tells the story himself.
A griz is extremely unpredictable and very intelligent.
There was absolutely no evidence of a bear attack and no way a bear would leave his food behind.
Did you watch all of the video?
8:55 Gritty Bear is one of the most terrifying things I have ever seen