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If you are near Assen in the Netherlands, the Drents Museum currently has a large exposition of gold and silver items from Dacia before the Roman conquest. They are items on loan from various Romanian museums.
Very interesting subject. I am from Bulgaria and 3 years ago a made a big motorcycle trip in Transylvania, then two smaller ones in the west. I visited several museums and historical sites related to the Dacians and have learned a lot of new things. The history of the Balkans is very interlinked and trade, culture, art, religion travelled far further than on could guess, even in these times.
@@ДеянКънчев-ф4вBut Dacia was considered north Thracia, both Greek and Roman historians of the Classical Era and the archaeology bare out the connection. Before the Romans and Magyars and Slavs moved in, the Carpathian Basin and Southeast Balkans were a continuum of people. Then so many invasions happened that todays Pannonians in Hungary identify with Asian Nomads, Dacians in Romanian identify with Romans and Thracians in Bulgaria identify with Slavs.
Every day is the same, nothing special, but why is it when i look not even far back, everything, including me, was so different from now? History is beautiful
I'm a worker in a car factory from Romania, here we build cars with this name mentioned by you above...a brand name in deed ...well knowm worlwide as i see :)
Also, two type of heavy trucks, named DAC and ROMAN, made by the same factory in Brasov. Naming cars after ancient warriors seem to be a romanian thing :)
The dacian stindard was a wolf head made of bronze or brass.The body was of similar to a snake or dragon made of textile material or leather. The head was in a pike and when the rider("Draconar") started galloping the body increased it's size because of the air and in the same time the had a shrinking device at the end with a flute which created the sound of a hauling wolf.
@@catalincata9043 It's called the falx. It was curved and the inside blade was the sharp one. It was pretty good at dismembering and thanks to its curved shape it could bypass the roman great shield and chop legionary hands. Google it to see what it looked like if you want. Hope that helps 🙂
Publius Ovidius Naso was exiled to Tomis, a coastal area of the Black Sea, located in modern day Romania. There, he wrote 'Epistulae ex Ponto', where he described the locals.
@@raulpetrascu2696 Yep and we also have the Ovid award which awarded to Romanian writers for best literature. Which is fitting because Ovid was Rome's famous fictional writer. A little too succesful for his own good because that's why Octavian exiled him.
What always fascinates me about the post roman era of the region is how Romanian is still a latin language, after so many different peoples came through and changed surounding areas langages like in hungary, bulgaria, serbia, the romanians kept their latin tongue.
Romanian is still a latin language same way Welsh is still a Celtic language, mountains. Romanian survived in the highlands of the Carpathian arch where nomads usually did not venture
Mountains. The core of Dacia was the Carpathian arch, very big, very mountainous area. Whenever things got rough, the locals would take refuge in the mountainous, wooded areas, which to present day cover a very large area, Romania was up to recently one of the most wooded countries in Europe. Most migratory peoples were horse based, , they'd avoid the mountains. Then, when/if they'd settle down, the locals would slowly intermingle with them, trade, and assimilate them slowly over time, while also adopting many of the invader's traits themselves. It also helps that these locals were semi-migratory pastoralists themselves, raising sheep high up in the mountains and always moving based on seasons, a feature also evidenced by their later (middle age) supposed descendants, the Vlachs.
Whenever I think about the Dacians is how feared they were at combat, especially their long ass curved swords, which the Romans made a gladiator type arm/sleeve armor just to combat that weapon.
The Manica Segmentata (armguard). The Romans also reinforced their helmets with iron cross guards for extra protection against the Dacian falx. The Romans took many casualties because a hard blow to the head with the tip of the falx could pierce the Roman helmet.
It took the Romans many years to conquer Dacians. To avoid being paraded in Rome and enslaved, Decebal, the ruler of the Dacians, killed himself. The Roman occupation lasted about 200 hundred years. The Dacians' language disappeared, but there are few words that survived and now used in the Romanian language, which is of Latin descendence. Because of the invading tribes, warring with Empires like the Ottomans, Slavic and Slavonic countries, Romanian language is what is now.
As a Romanian, I thank you for this video. We are proud of this part of our history having references to it in our national anthem and our own car brand is called Dacia which is quite popular in many European and Asian countries (though it may be exported under the Renault brand in some places)
Our national anthem does not reference Dacia at all. Although we do reference our Roman ancestry, "un sange de Roman, un nume de Traian". A Roman blood and a name of Trajan. So maybe if you meant Roman Dacia.
Dacia is no longer a "romanian" brand. It's been bought by Renault for quite a few years now. even under the hood, the engine is the typical Renault engine. Hell, since Russia hates Romania so much, Dacia cars are sold there under the Renault badge. even if the entire body is exactly a Dacia. Like Renault Duster or Sandero xD
The Romans had to change their gear because the Falx swords' curved tip allowed the Dacians to reach around the edge of the Roman shields and hit the soldier in the head and the arm.
You have some inconsistencies around the dacian wars period. As far as I am aware the dacians managed to get tribute out of the romans not the other way around as well as craftsmen. With Trajan the were forced to destroy forts etc
Probably the main reason Trajan decided to attack Dacia is because of the shameful tribute that Rome was paying since Domitian. As well as the raids on Roman forts south of the Danube
Would love to see a video on the origins of the Romanians and modern Romania, given that Dacia was in modern-day Romania and that the Romanian language is a geographical outlier due to being a Romance language and descended from Latin. The Roman presence there clearly left a much more lasting effect than in other areas.
Romanians being direct descendants of Dacians sounds just as absurd as Hungarians being Turkic or Englishmen springing from the Brythonic peoples. Only uneducated and misinformed people can carve such claims. As this channel has correctly pointed out, Dacians have way too many question marks regarding their origins regardless of how doggedly you invent your own armchair-detective claims.
We consider both as ancestors but my DNA test made the picture clearer. Even after 1900 years from roman conquest I still have 54% from the south of Italy(roman) 16% Tharcian, 11%German, 10% Hungarian and about 9% slavic. Quite a mix but mainly roman, no wonder that even to this day in our own language we call ourselfs Roman.
@@goosequillianActually, no. There is no other feasible answer, as claiming romanians are not descended from the dacians means that the dacian populace suddenly vanished into thin air, as there were no major migrations out of Dacia that could have lead to them disappearing. This conclusion is reached because any other answers are not logical. There is also the fact that many Dacian traditions and traditional outfits are large parts of romanian culture, and have been for hundreds of years.
Under Decebal, Dacia represented an existential threat to Rome. Although Rome "officially" said it won the first Dacian war, they somehow ended up paying up monthly taxes to Dacia. A second all or nothing war was seemingly inevitable but Trajan and Decebal came to an agreement: Trajan was to adopt Decebal's youngest son and raise him as his official heir. A Dacian on the throne of the Roman Empire was something that appeased both the hostile Dacians as well as the Roman people which had great respect for Dacians due to their reputation as warriors. (One of the greatest gladiatorial schools right next to the Colosseum was entirely dedicated to Dacian culture). However the child passed away after a freak accident while playing with a sword. Emperor Trajan invaded Dacia with the entire might of the Roman army. It was the biggest and most costly war campaign in the history of Rome because defeat in this instance was tantamount to the extinction of the Empire. Trajan won, "colonized" Dacia with 40 000 romans while also "transferring" >400 000 Dacians to Rome. Two centuries later Dacians were running the Empire with most of the elite being descendants of these Dacians that Trajan brought. Emperor Galerius (half-Dacian on his mother's side) even proposed to change the name of the Roman Empire to the Dacian Empire. This sparked great tensions between the two ethnic factions within Rome which eventually culminated in the split of the Empire, with Emperor Constantine (half-Dacian on his father's side) laying down the foundation of the Byzantine Roman Empire which lasted for another 1000 years. Roman religion never managed to enter Dacia. Herodotus describes an outward hostility towards the Roman gods, with Dacian rituals revolving around blaspheming the Pantheon and challenging Zeus to a fight plus calling him a coward for not showing up. Dacians were one of the first people to be Christianized around 70 AD by St. Andrew. The Romans even reported the presence of Christian symbolism (crosses, icons) in Sarmisegetuza, around 100 AD. One thing to note is that throughout the history of the Dacian people, they have always had a hostility towards the Roman Empire. Sometimes this hostility was unexplainable. One example of this is when Emperor Constantine came to the aide of the Dacians because they were engaged in a war with germanic invaders. The Dacians promptly turned their swords against Constantine's army as well and they were forced to retreat. Emperor Constantine after being rejected by what he considered to be his true homeland, decided to cope by giving himself the lofty title of Dacicus Maximus. This title (for some reason) was then adopted by all the later Emperors up until the dissolution of the Byzantine Empire in the 15th Century.
@@alucard347 It's Wikipedia-tier knowledge but it is scattered all over the place. I just placed everything into one coherent narrative. If you google each of my statements you will find some article mentioning it. The most difficult aspect to understand was why was ancient Rome so in love with the Dacians. Keep in mind that most of what we know about Dacians come from the Romans themselves. Though enemies of the Empire, the Dacians were portrayed absurdly positively: noble, honest, well-spoken, great warriors, fearless, and cunning. There's also the fact that Dacians and Romans were related, one nation branching from the other but whether or not they understood this at the time is speculative. I think this mystery is solved by the fact that one of the biggest gladiatorial schools in Rome was dedicated exclusively to Dacians. The gladiatorial games was such an important part of ancient Rome that it almost bankrupted the empire several times. So it comes to reason why Romans had such a positive view of Dacians when they were so used to seeing them perform in the arena so often.
@@yossarian7617 hmm... interesting. I'll need to read up on that, as dacian history is really not my forte. thank you for the information! have a good day!
The Thracian Culture and Ethnic Identity: The Thracian culture emerged during the early Bronze Age, around 3500 BC, and from it developed various regional groups, including the Getae, the Dacians, and others. These groups were consistently considered Thracian by ancient historians such as Dio Cassius, Trogus Pompeius, Appian, Strabo, Herodotus, and Pliny the Elder, who noted that the Dacians and Getae spoke the same Thracian language. Indo-Europeanization and Cultural Development: By the beginning of the Bronze Age, the region had completed its Indo-Europeanization. The inhabitants, initially proto-Thracians, evolved into distinct groups such as the Danubian-Carpathian Geto-Dacians and the Thracians of the eastern Balkan Peninsula by the Iron Age. Getae and Dacians: A Unified Identity: Strabo, an ancient Greek geographer, and other classical authors argued that the Daci and the Getae were essentially the same people, distinguished mainly by their geographic locations. The Daci lived in the western region towards the Pannonian plain (Transylvania), while the Getae were situated further east towards the Black Sea coast (Scythia Minor). Strabo's view, widely supported by other sources, suggests that the distinction between Dacians and Getae is largely artificial, with both groups speaking the same language and sharing a common Thracian heritage. Strabo's accounts, along with other ancient sources, have led some modern historians to consider that if the Thracian ethnic group were to be divided, one of these divisions should be the "Daco-Getae." Linguist Ivan Duridanov identified a "Dacian linguistic area" in Dacia, Scythia Minor, Lower Moesia, and Upper Moesia. Romanian scholars, such as historian Constantin C. Giurescu, have often gone further, claiming that the Getae and Dacians were identical. Archaeologist Mircea Babeș even spoke of a "veritable ethno-cultural unity" between the two groups. Similarly, Glanville Price pointed out that Strabo's account shows the Getae and Dacians were one and the same people. Early Mentions and Historical Accounts: Herodotus, the ancient Greek historian, described the Getae as "the noblest as well as the most just of all the Thracian tribes." He highlighted their belief in the immortality of the soul and their practice of considering death merely a change of country. This early mention of the Getae establishes their Thracian roots and their cultural and religious beliefs. Roman Accounts and Terminology: In his Roman History (circa 200 AD), Cassius Dio noted the interchangeable use of the terms Dacians and Getae. He clarified that the Dacians, as referred to by the Romans, were the same people whom the Greeks called Getae. Dio pointed out that the Dacians lived on both sides of the Lower Danube, with those south of the river known as Moesians and those north as Dacians. He emphasized that these groups were essentially Thracians of Dacian race. The Bulgarian historian Alexander Fol considered that the Getae became known as "Dacians" in Greek and Latin texts by writers such as Caesar, Strabo, and Pliny the Elder, as Roman observers adopted the name of the Dacian tribe to refer to all the unconquered inhabitants north of the Danube. Edward Bunbury similarly believed that while the Getae were originally known to the Greeks on the Euxine, the name Dacians was used by the Romans to refer to the western tribes adjoining the Pannonians. Classical and Poetic References: The Dacians were variously referred to as Getae or Daci in ancient texts. Herodotus was the first to use the term Getae. Julius Caesar, Strabo, and Pliny the Elder also referred to these people, often interchangeably, as Dacians or Getae. Latin poets like Vergil, Lucian, Horace, and Juvenal used both terms in their works, reflecting interchangeability in naming. Modern historians prefer the term Geto-Dacians to encompass both groups. Scholars such as James Minahan, Catherine B. Avery, David Sandler Berkowitz, and Philip Matyszak support the view that the Greeks called these people Getae, while the Romans called them Daci. Linguistic and Cultural Identity: The Dacians and Getae spoke the Dacian language, which is debatedly related to the Thracian language, potentially as a subgroup. Many scholars, drawing from Strabo's accounts, agree that the Getae and Dacians were the same people. Modern historians and writers, such as James Minahan, Catherine B. Avery, David Sandler Berkowitz, and Philip Matyszak, have supported this view. Notable scholars, including the Bulgarian historian Alexander Fol and the British historian Edward Bunbury, have also supported the perspective that the terms "Dacians" and "Getae" referred to the same people at different stages of their history. As a result, the concept of a "Geto-Dacian" culture has become prevalent in modern scholarship. Conclusion: The Getae and Dacians are best understood as closely related, if not identical, Thracian tribes. Ancient sources consistently treated them as such, and modern scholarship supports this unified identity, often using the term Geto-Dacians to describe their shared culture and language.
@@lost_porkchop It was a bit of ChatGPT and Wikipedia work yeah XD but overall I say it's informative and true regarding all the ancient and modern sources that share the same point of view
, yes. They kicked the asses of all those who wanted to trasspass their territories. Too bad they were unable to stop the Roman Empire, but they held them back for many years.
Great video! I'm honored to be somewhat related to both Romans and Dacians, as I'm Romanian myself. The only correction from my side - it's "Sarmizegetusa", not "Sarmizetegusa" :D
Dacia is still in Romania. Dacia never disappeared. Just adapted to the new eve. Romania is Dacia and it will remain so for the future. The Balkans do not forget the old cultures. Romania is surrounded by the Slav population but The Slavs did not destroy the older natives of this region. They mingle with them and integrate them. This is why The East or Europe is sooo different in culture, religion, and traditions to the rest of Europe. Great video! Thank you! This mega statue of Decebalus is still guarding the land, so people will never forget their roots!
@@vasarelly37 This is Hungarian theory. Only Hungarians claim this. Every other scholar in Europe thinks otherwise. No population disappeared from history like that. Remember that at that time, Dacia was 80% forest. All invaders remained on those lands for a short time because it wasn't easy to settle. Nomads are not used to live in towns. Except for some Slavic tribes and some Pecheneg, nobody remained in Dacia. They all went to rich places like Italy. The reason why some Vlachs live in the Balkans is that some natives retreated with the Roman army and settled In Moesia, Ilyria, and Greece. This was in short numbers. The eastern Roman scholars and later the Byzantines, stated the same. In the entire history of Europe, no population disappeared as you claim. They mingle with others but they stay in their lands. For the people at that time, the world was really small. Most of them never move from their village radius except for battles or commercial reasons. The families stay. The Hungarian so-called theory is supported only by Hungarian historians. And that is politically biased. Nobody else.
I'm Romanian. But, I wish my country was named Dacia and we would be refered to as Dacians. We still have so many words that we use even nowadays from the Dacian language. My grandpa was so proud that his mother's last name was Trache which is a Tracian name. I took a DNA test and it confirmed we are from the region of Dacia. I wish he would still be alive to share that with him. But, just like our old believes I know he is up there with all my ancestors, and I'll join them once my journey here is over. Long live the Dacians!
@@dienamychd7611 mențin idea că pentru o civilizație care a existat pe aceste tărâmuri dinaintea oricărei alte civilizații...300 de cuvinte străvechi sunt destule, chiar și din 120000. Acum agree to disagree. Commentul meu nu se focusa atât pe numărul de cuvinte. Dar fiecare se focusează pe ce vrea.
It is not well to say that they could have originated from the Caspian Sea region or from Anatolia. As in many European regions, the main genetic pools for this area were three: the ancient Europeans, Anatolian farmers, and Indo-Europeans. In this area, they contributed in roughly equal parts, with a slight prevalence for the ancient Europeans. Even before the arrival of the Indo-Europeans, cultures like Cucuteni had flourishing settlements of many thousands of people. The Indo-Europeans brought with them the language and generated the Bronze Age civilization in the area. We then have the Basarabi culture, which is the first homogeneous culture on this territory, a sort of proto-Getae. We then have the Scytho-Iranian invasions, with the first form of the Iron Age, which also brought a new ruling class, but the Scythians mostly remained on the eastern border. This certainly formed the Getae tribes. We then have Celtic influence in Transylvania, which crystallizes the transformation into the Dacian civilization. The first great kingdom of Burebista is "Geto-Dacian," Burebista probably being from south of the Carpathians, but moving his power base towards the Orăștie Mountains.
It is interesting that the Romans, Byzantines, and Ottomans all had difficulty controlling the region north of the Danube. Making the area a vassal state was the best most hegemonic powers could accomplish.
@Constantin_de_România Plenty of communist countries were not members of the USSR but were allies of the Warsaw Pact. The USSR was able to crush rebellions in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. But they did not have such control in all areas of communist Cold War Europe. Yugoslavia and Albania probably were the most independent countries from the USSR during the Cold War. Tito in Yugoslavia prided himself on being something of a non-aligned player in the Cold War. This was a role much like Franco and Salazar in Spain and Portugal during WWII. They were fascists but were not drawn into Hitler's war.
@Constantin_de_România Additionally Romania was criticized for its totalitarian child-rearing policies during the Cold War in order to boost the population. Nicolae Ceausescu's policies led to the institutionalization of over 100,000 children in state-run orphanages by the end of his rule in 1989. Childless people were taxed and oppressed. Conditions in the orphanages were terrible. Many children born from that time are still looking for their parents and are having difficulty reintegrating into society.
@KingsandGenerals True! He can say that (I'm a Romanian) we opposed the invasion of czechoslovakia and other dirty stuff made by Kremlin but we were not the only country outside of CCP but in communist block
so dacia province have existed for 160 years only...and it was 2000years ago, then check your dnas how much dacian genes you got...close to zero even cumins had more lasting effect
Love these chaps. Romans thought they were just a tribe likie any other, but they checked the Romans for a while and had incredible cities, culture, art and warfare.
Culture? They didn't even have writing. And Sarmizegetusa was the only settlement that you could have call a city. Besides the sacred precinct it was just a big village. As for art, for it to be incredible pretty jewels are not enough.
@@UlmoLOTR you're confusing culture and civilization. besides, just because we don't have known clear sources of Dacian or Thracian writings, it does not mean that they did not exist, especially since most common writings done in the area, if existed (likely did), would've been on perishable materials like animal hides, tree bark and so on. if by art you refer to written literature or poetry, maybe you're right but Dacians were amazing artisans as they had a pretty insane metallurgy for that time, including using complicated lamination processes just in order to forge some Macedonian coins. they also had extensive plumbing systems with pipes made of lead as well as ceramics. you should document yourself more about Dacians.
@@jonsnow7092 I read plenty about the Dacians. I wander how you believe it is logical to say that they wrote on hides and bark since they had plenty of stone, metal or even wax, like the Romans had. And the water pipes were built by the Romans when Dacia was a vasal state or after the conquest.
That's not necessarily the case. From what we know the Carpi originate from East of the mountains in modern Moldova. They were probably called Carpi because they lived beyond the mountains from a Roman point of view.
The withdrawal of Aurelian is given too much importance. Dacia was part of Rome until much later since Constantine the Great built a bridge over Danube and also multiple fortifications as far as 200 km north of Danube. Constantine took the title Gothicus Maximus and named the region of today south Romania as Gothia. Rome loses control of territory north of Danube at the time of Justinian (early sixth century).
For real? The entire Dacia was under Roman occupation? Not just 33% of Dacia? Maybe read more history. And Aurelianian withdrawal happened because of multiple revolts. It didn't just happened because the Roman Empire got bored. And those revolts were led by the free Dacians.
@@dargaard3339 untrue. More like 66% of Dacia was Roman, the other 33% was Gothic (Germanic) and some remaining free Dacian tribes. The Dacians never revolted against the Roman colonists because most of them were women. If you’re talking about the free Dacians who fought alongside the goths against the Romans, well they were not under Roman rule to begin with. The Roman presence in Dacia had a profound impact on the people living there today. We Romanians speak a latin language and continue calling ourselves Romans to this day.
so dacia province have existed for 160 years only...and it was 2000years ago, then check your dnas how much dacian genes you got...close to zero even cumins had more lasting effect
Decebalus even got weapons and military instructors from the disgraced Domitian. When Emperor Trajan launched his first campaign agains the Dacians, he found this unexpected issue and was forced to develop new armor and siege engines to conquer the tough veteran barbarians.
And you are a Romanian, I suppose?! The Dacians are not the ancestors of modern Romanians. The Vlach shepherds from the Balcan peninsula (Illyria) are.
I would love to see an episode about the Avars. Their connection to the Rouran Khaganate is fascinating. It's a shame that most of these nomadic civilizations don't leave written archives behind.
Ofcourse. But the caucasian Avars cannot be the descendants of the Rourans. Btw the Palóc people might be the descendants of the Pannonian Avars.@@BarlasofIndus
so dacia province have existed for 160 years only...and it was 2000years ago, then check your dnas how much dacian genes you got...close to zero even cumins had more lasting effect
Correction: Not Sarmizetegusa, but Sarmizegetusa. Pronounced Sar-mi-ze-dje-too-za. It apparently meant "place of Sarmatians and Getae", as can be seen in the name even today.
❤ that you gave Dacians the well deserved attention. We dont know for sure how much Dacian blood🩸we have in our veins today, or how much of our DNA. But Dacians are 100% the spiritual ancestors of Romanians. As you say... Dacians were more than 1 tribe themselves and were in contact with several cultures. Until ... they united. Not a very difficult DNA task for us then.
so dacia province have existed for 160 years only...and it was 2000years ago, then check your dnas how much dacian genes you got...close to zero even cumins had more lasting effect
It's interesting that in Romania the people called Romania are called Romana. It would be interesting to talk about the origins of Romania and the limit of the Latin world. The Romanian language is very similar to Portuguese
We call our country Romania because we're the only Latin people that continued to call ourselves Romans. The Romanian people came into being after the Roman conquest and settlement of Dacia.
Moldova, taken over by Stalin, belongs to Romania. Ukraine, an artificial, very new state, has never had anything in common with the Romanian territories, history, culture, and language-Bucovina and other territories were also stolen by Stalin at the end of WW2 and given to Ukraine not even to Moldova. Hungarian tribes, who constantly attacked Europe, eventually established where they are today - in Dacian lands. They showed up only in the 10th century. In the 6th century, the Slavic tribes arrived around former Dacia that has a long time ago evolved into the incipient modern nation, whose lands would become the modern state of Romania. The Dacians never "vanished" from those lands. The stage of the Daco-Roman people ended in time with the formation of the modern Romanian people. There is continuity here - nothing, nobody, just vanished. Of course, there are minorities, as they are in all the European countries which also were heading towards their own modern states. A little correction - the Celts have been assimilated by the local people, not vice versa. The language spoken for millennia in those lands is the Latin language that has nothing in common with Celts, Slavs, Hungarians, and you name it. As happened in all European countries invasions, and wars, all of these happened until the modern people, languages, and borders settled more or less. Those tribes came into those lands, leaving or being assimilated by the local people. The Romanian language doesn't have dialects, but only regionalisms, meaning that they communicate and understand each other perfectly wherever they are in those lands. It is the closest language to Italian.
I am not sure if I remember well the history lessons I was taught in school, but they believed in immortality and whenever they wanted to send an important message to the gods, they would select a brave warrior, who would throw himself into a pit full of spears. Iaics
Some say that the Dacian’s language disappeared, but latin got many words from it, and now latin is the base of many European languages. Some even argue that Latin comes from what was spoken in Dacia / Tracia region…
Because Dacian are awesome, and someone needed to mark into history their greatness, since Dacians didn't bothered to leave us some written historical heritage.
@@Lalw We Romanians have more to do with Romans than with Dacians. The reason there are statues of Dacians on the arch of Constantine is to commemorate his partial reconquest of Dacia in his campaign against the Goths. Those statues weren’t sculpted in Constantine’s time but were actually taken from Trajan’s forum and placed atop the arch.
@@octaviantimisoreanu5810 or Romans with us, however genetically we are more related with our Slavic neighbours as per some studies. Anyways, history is a story shaped by people with rich fantasy and political interest, and if you think 160 years is long enough to become more roman, and our Dacian mothers to teach us Latin instead of native language, when the troops during age of empires where a mix of nations, then all hopes are lost of us, and no long until we will declare ourselves of other origins which we deem cool because we like to be copies, not part of an original DNA makeup. Surely each one can be of which originins want to be, under our apparent freedom. Informative, people should search writings from Sulina port during or right after ottoman occupation of 400 years, it's an interesting mix of Romanian (predominant) , French and Turkish, and let's not forget about the multicultural background in the area, where etnic Lipovans, Hahols, Turks, Tatars, Greeks etc still speak their community languages, under so many wind of political changes, and hundreds of years. Last but not least, the knowledge of foreign languages should be used wisely to read books wrriten by European historians, researchers and etimologists etc which will reveal different point of views, some far different than what we are taught or wrriten in romanian.
@@octaviantimisoreanu5810 thank you for sharing your point of view. I do know enough languages and have quite a handful of books written by people which base their work on actual research to form my own opinion about my heritage. You're free to be more roman if it pleases you, however I'm more Get.
@@Lalw Well you're free to identify as non-binary space pirate if you like, but in objective reality, Romanians are Roman, irrespective of whatever your feelings are on the matter. Thank you.
As a Romanian, thank you for your hard work, great video! One thing to mention though, the Dacian capital is spelled Sarmisegetuza and therefore pronunced differently, hope this helps!
so dacia province have existed for 160 years only...and it was 2000years ago, then check your dnas how much dacian genes you got...close to zero even cumins had more lasting effect
@@deluxecapprian983 Dacians have nothing to do with romanians... Learn history kid... Thats like saying the Avars or the Huns were Hungarian, when infact they werent.
@@relhithrrdn you contradict yourself: history, tradition , language and not least of all common sense show that Dacians are the ancestors of the Romanian folk.
@@relhithrrdn instead of spreading lies and misinformation maybe you should say thanks to romanians for freeing you of bolsheviks - learn history August 1919. You're welcome, kid.
As a Romanian, I really love and appreciate your documentary, thanks for this! I do however have to say that 5 minutes in I started laughing because your voice sounds like a South Park Canadian narrator and I couldn't unhear it after that. 😄
Thank you for another excellent video! I'm looking forward to the next overview in this series. I quite enjoy these videos on the less-covered peoples of history. God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
At 7:55 Burebista's equipment is inspired from my father's reenactment gear, our historical reenactment asociation Geto-Dacii din Moldova. Your art is very beautiful as always and the information is easy to digest!!!Cheers from Romania 🇷🇴🇲🇩
Romania has a giant carving of Decebalus on the side of a mountain overlooking the Danube river on the border with Serbia. It's like Romania's Mount Rushmore 😂
It seems that the geti tribes were more numerous than is generally known. Apart from the Romanian area, there were also the Tyrageti in the north of the Black Sea or the mysterious Massageti with Queen Tomiris in the area of the Caspian Sea up to the Tarim Basin in western China.
The Tyragetae and Messagetae were not related to the Getae at all. They were Sarmatians. The Greeks had this annoying habit of naming newly encountered tribes after known ones, which is why in Greek sources almost all steppe nomads are known as Scythians even though they were not.
@@SirAdrian87 I only know the story that their name given by the Greeks literally means the Getae from the river Tyras and the Great Getae, which does not quite match the Scythian version. In addition, I think you know the discoveries of blonde mummies in western China. The Scythians don't think they were blond.
it's strange how in just 165 years of roman occupation it left such an mark on the region, especially on the language. Comparing with other provinces like Britain, witch was longer under roman rule (aprox 450 years) and the language spoken today has nothing to do with latin.
The same argument is brought by a Romanian nationalist current called dacopatie. Part of it claims that the Thracian-Daco-Getians would have spoken a language sister to Latin or a compatible one. Moreover, the Spanish researcher Carmen Huertas has a theory of the same kind on the Spanish side.
Dacia had a lot of gold. And I do mean a lot. It was very heavily settled by people from all corners of the empire, people whose only common language was Latin. Just to give you an example within 40 years the province had multiple colonia, which was the highest status a roman provincial city could attain. There were also 3 full legion stationed in the area at all times with veterans being given land in Dacia. Britain on the other hand was a backwater province at the edge of the empire. It was the poorest province in the empire and while it had useful resources there was nothing that would want to make someone from roman Greece or Egypt want to go there. Moreover Dacia was also helped by terrain. The relatively tall plateau of the Carpathian arch allowed the romanised population to survive the migration period as wooded mountain areas are generally of little interest to nomads, whereas in Britain the relatively flat relief allowed the Romano-Brittish were subsumed by the invading Saxons in short order.
It makes more sense if you consider trade over the river was easier than over the channel,the number of roman settlers, the people who conquered the teritorries after and their culrural and population power, etc.
It is strange that during Pompey the Great, Romans were still campaigning in Hispania (and were awarded triumphs for that), while 160 years later, Hispania was giving first Roman Emperor. Imagine what a mark Romans left on Hispania. And this isn't strange to you, ain't it?
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hey do you think you could do something about the batavion revolt in the roman empire no one ever talks about it
i hope you cover the roman dacian wars one day
Any idea when first punic war series will be available for followers to watch who are not youtube members?? Hope it's really soon.
@@Scorpion51123314512 don't know
@@KingsandGenerals thanks
If you are near Assen in the Netherlands, the Drents Museum currently has a large exposition of gold and silver items from Dacia before the Roman conquest. They are items on loan from various Romanian museums.
yessss im dying to go!
Thanks for the info, added on my list to visit.
@@LalwVizitează pământul sfânt. Sar putea sa vezi lucruri la care nici nu visezi.
Strange is that the romanian daci(dacians) and dutch have same pronunciation
@@ioncojoaca9811 iesi ma cu israelu de aci,mai bine merg in baicoi
Very interesting subject. I am from Bulgaria and 3 years ago a made a big motorcycle trip in Transylvania, then two smaller ones in the west. I visited several museums and historical sites related to the Dacians and have learned a lot of new things. The history of the Balkans is very interlinked and trade, culture, art, religion travelled far further than on could guess, even in these times.
Romania definitely remembers the Dacians considering they've been working on a giant stone monument to Decebalus.
Been there to see it and on the serbian side the Tabula Traiana. To bad they didn't go ahead with building Trajan's monument there.
What do you mean been working? The monument was done decades ago.
@@ДеянКънчев-ф4вBut Dacia was considered north Thracia, both Greek and Roman historians of the Classical Era and the archaeology bare out the connection.
Before the Romans and Magyars and Slavs moved in, the Carpathian Basin and Southeast Balkans were a continuum of people.
Then so many invasions happened that todays Pannonians in Hungary identify with Asian Nomads, Dacians in Romanian identify with Romans and Thracians in Bulgaria identify with Slavs.
I think naming a car brand after it, is already a lot of recognition 😅
@@ДеянКънчев-ф4в awww poor llittle hungarian :))))))
The reason I like history is that every passing day the subject expands. Everything is new, yet nothing is new.
as it should be, if history is boring, then you're learning it the wrong way
"Nothing new under the Sun".
Agreed, plus It's so endlessly fascinating
Every day is the same, nothing special, but why is it when i look not even far back, everything, including me, was so different from now? History is beautiful
@@andreibarbulescu3276nostalgia
Now i get where the car brand Dacia gets its name from
I'm a worker in a car factory from Romania, here we build cars with this name mentioned by you above...a brand name in deed ...well knowm worlwide as i see :)
@dand7763 got to ride around in a few when I was stationed at Mk. Well made vehicles and can definitely take the daily grind of taxi work lol
It's been delayed!
Also, two type of heavy trucks, named DAC and ROMAN, made by the same factory in Brasov. Naming cars after ancient warriors seem to be a romanian thing :)
@@TheNeamtu Every country does it. American Apache chinock helicopters, french Leclerc tank, british ships etc
The dacian stindard was a wolf head made of bronze or brass.The body was of similar to a snake or dragon made of textile material or leather.
The head was in a pike and when the rider("Draconar") started galloping the body increased it's size because of the air and in the same time the had a shrinking device at the end with a flute which created the sound of a hauling wolf.
You know your civilization is awesome when it has a weapon that scared the hell out of the Romans and force them to change their helmet
That's hardcore.
And add a metal sleeve on their sword hand
Whats that weapon?
@@catalincata9043 It's called the falx. It was curved and the inside blade was the sharp one. It was pretty good at dismembering and thanks to its curved shape it could bypass the roman great shield and chop legionary hands. Google it to see what it looked like if you want. Hope that helps 🙂
@@catalincata9043 falx
Publius Ovidius Naso was exiled to Tomis, a coastal area of the Black Sea, located in modern day Romania. There, he wrote 'Epistulae ex Ponto', where he described the locals.
You can see his statue in the modern city, Constanța
@@raulpetrascu2696 Yep and we also have the Ovid award which awarded to Romanian writers for best literature. Which is fitting because Ovid was Rome's famous fictional writer. A little too succesful for his own good because that's why Octavian exiled him.
Tomis lives today as well with a different name, we even have a liqueur wine call " Ovidiu's tear"
This is true 💯👍
I downloaded his writings. They are free thankfully. Thanks for the tip
I'm starting my history bachelor. Thank's to K&G in sparking my interest!
Best of luck to you!
Oof.
What always fascinates me about the post roman era of the region is how Romanian is still a latin language, after so many different peoples came through and changed surounding areas langages like in hungary, bulgaria, serbia, the romanians kept their latin tongue.
But it's the least understandable romance language 😂
@@BasedGod66 Ever listened to a french speaking?
Romanian is still a latin language same way Welsh is still a Celtic language, mountains. Romanian survived in the highlands of the Carpathian arch where nomads usually did not venture
@@BasedGod66 are u a French?
Mountains. The core of Dacia was the Carpathian arch, very big, very mountainous area. Whenever things got rough, the locals would take refuge in the mountainous, wooded areas, which to present day cover a very large area, Romania was up to recently one of the most wooded countries in Europe. Most migratory peoples were horse based, , they'd avoid the mountains. Then, when/if they'd settle down, the locals would slowly intermingle with them, trade, and assimilate them slowly over time, while also adopting many of the invader's traits themselves. It also helps that these locals were semi-migratory pastoralists themselves, raising sheep high up in the mountains and always moving based on seasons, a feature also evidenced by their later (middle age) supposed descendants, the Vlachs.
Whenever I think about the Dacians is how feared they were at combat, especially their long ass curved swords, which the Romans made a gladiator type arm/sleeve armor just to combat that weapon.
The Manica Segmentata (armguard). The Romans also reinforced their helmets with iron cross guards for extra protection against the Dacian falx. The Romans took many casualties because a hard blow to the head with the tip of the falx could pierce the Roman helmet.
They have curved swords....curved...swords. Whiterun Guard
it was not a weapon...it was a agricultural tool!
It took the Romans many years to conquer Dacians. To avoid being paraded in Rome and enslaved, Decebal, the ruler of the Dacians, killed himself. The Roman occupation lasted about 200 hundred years. The Dacians' language disappeared, but there are few words that survived and now used in the Romanian language, which is of Latin descendence. Because of the invading tribes, warring with Empires like the Ottomans, Slavic and Slavonic countries, Romanian language is what is now.
@@laurapenciuc6258 Indeed. But it wasn’t an “occupation” it was a settlement. Dacia was settled with Romans and heavily Romanized.
As a Romanian, I thank you for this video. We are proud of this part of our history having references to it in our national anthem and our own car brand is called Dacia which is quite popular in many European and Asian countries (though it may be exported under the Renault brand in some places)
Our national anthem does not reference Dacia at all. Although we do reference our Roman ancestry, "un sange de Roman, un nume de Traian". A Roman blood and a name of Trajan. So maybe if you meant Roman Dacia.
Dacia is no longer a "romanian" brand. It's been bought by Renault for quite a few years now. even under the hood, the engine is the typical Renault engine. Hell, since Russia hates Romania so much, Dacia cars are sold there under the Renault badge. even if the entire body is exactly a Dacia. Like Renault Duster or Sandero xD
@@Shadow.24772 If it says Dacia on it. It's Romanian. End of story.
@@Shadow.24772 Trust me, no Romania will give a shit and say "Dacia is Romanian. Cry about it."
@@Alexander99602 you are so wrong
The Romans had to change their gear because the Falx swords' curved tip allowed the Dacians to reach around the edge of the Roman shields and hit the soldier in the head and the arm.
You have some inconsistencies around the dacian wars period. As far as I am aware the dacians managed to get tribute out of the romans not the other way around as well as craftsmen. With Trajan the were forced to destroy forts etc
Yup.
Probably the main reason Trajan decided to attack Dacia is because of the shameful tribute that Rome was paying since Domitian. As well as the raids on Roman forts south of the Danube
Would love to see a video on the origins of the Romanians and modern Romania, given that Dacia was in modern-day Romania and that the Romanian language is a geographical outlier due to being a Romance language and descended from Latin. The Roman presence there clearly left a much more lasting effect than in other areas.
Half the Romanians think they are descended from the glorious Dacian lineage, while the other half extoll their Roman ancestry.
@@ElBanditorather they think of themselves as both Dacian and Roman, never heard anyone claiming just one of the two 😅
Romanians being direct descendants of Dacians sounds just as absurd as Hungarians being Turkic or Englishmen springing from the Brythonic peoples. Only uneducated and misinformed people can carve such claims. As this channel has correctly pointed out, Dacians have way too many question marks regarding their origins regardless of how doggedly you invent your own armchair-detective claims.
We consider both as ancestors but my DNA test made the picture clearer. Even after 1900 years from roman conquest I still have 54% from the south of Italy(roman) 16% Tharcian, 11%German, 10% Hungarian and about 9% slavic. Quite a mix but mainly roman, no wonder that even to this day in our own language we call ourselfs Roman.
@@goosequillianActually, no. There is no other feasible answer, as claiming romanians are not descended from the dacians means that the dacian populace suddenly vanished into thin air, as there were no major migrations out of Dacia that could have lead to them disappearing.
This conclusion is reached because any other answers are not logical.
There is also the fact that many Dacian traditions and traditional outfits are large parts of romanian culture, and have been for hundreds of years.
Would love to see a video of Trajan and his wars in Dacia and Parthia!!
I have always been intrigued by the history of the Dacians
I’ve always wanted a video on Dacia it’s such a fascinating kingdom we don’t really know much on
Under Decebal, Dacia represented an existential threat to Rome. Although Rome "officially" said it won the first Dacian war, they somehow ended up paying up monthly taxes to Dacia. A second all or nothing war was seemingly inevitable but Trajan and Decebal came to an agreement: Trajan was to adopt Decebal's youngest son and raise him as his official heir. A Dacian on the throne of the Roman Empire was something that appeased both the hostile Dacians as well as the Roman people which had great respect for Dacians due to their reputation as warriors. (One of the greatest gladiatorial schools right next to the Colosseum was entirely dedicated to Dacian culture). However the child passed away after a freak accident while playing with a sword. Emperor Trajan invaded Dacia with the entire might of the Roman army. It was the biggest and most costly war campaign in the history of Rome because defeat in this instance was tantamount to the extinction of the Empire. Trajan won, "colonized" Dacia with 40 000 romans while also "transferring" >400 000 Dacians to Rome. Two centuries later Dacians were running the Empire with most of the elite being descendants of these Dacians that Trajan brought. Emperor Galerius (half-Dacian on his mother's side) even proposed to change the name of the Roman Empire to the Dacian Empire. This sparked great tensions between the two ethnic factions within Rome which eventually culminated in the split of the Empire, with Emperor Constantine (half-Dacian on his father's side) laying down the foundation of the Byzantine Roman Empire which lasted for another 1000 years.
Roman religion never managed to enter Dacia. Herodotus describes an outward hostility towards the Roman gods, with Dacian rituals revolving around blaspheming the Pantheon and challenging Zeus to a fight plus calling him a coward for not showing up. Dacians were one of the first people to be Christianized around 70 AD by St. Andrew. The Romans even reported the presence of Christian symbolism (crosses, icons) in Sarmisegetuza, around 100 AD.
One thing to note is that throughout the history of the Dacian people, they have always had a hostility towards the Roman Empire. Sometimes this hostility was unexplainable. One example of this is when Emperor Constantine came to the aide of the Dacians because they were engaged in a war with germanic invaders. The Dacians promptly turned their swords against Constantine's army as well and they were forced to retreat. Emperor Constantine after being rejected by what he considered to be his true homeland, decided to cope by giving himself the lofty title of Dacicus Maximus. This title (for some reason) was then adopted by all the later Emperors up until the dissolution of the Byzantine Empire in the 15th Century.
Awesome trivia!
Do you have sources for that?
It seems a bit too good to be true.
@@alucard347 It's Wikipedia-tier knowledge but it is scattered all over the place. I just placed everything into one coherent narrative. If you google each of my statements you will find some article mentioning it.
The most difficult aspect to understand was why was ancient Rome so in love with the Dacians. Keep in mind that most of what we know about Dacians come from the Romans themselves. Though enemies of the Empire, the Dacians were portrayed absurdly positively: noble, honest, well-spoken, great warriors, fearless, and cunning. There's also the fact that Dacians and Romans were related, one nation branching from the other but whether or not they understood this at the time is speculative.
I think this mystery is solved by the fact that one of the biggest gladiatorial schools in Rome was dedicated exclusively to Dacians. The gladiatorial games was such an important part of ancient Rome that it almost bankrupted the empire several times. So it comes to reason why Romans had such a positive view of Dacians when they were so used to seeing them perform in the arena so often.
@@yossarian7617 hmm... interesting. I'll need to read up on that, as dacian history is really not my forte.
thank you for the information!
have a good day!
@@yossarian7617 I always thought that the Dacians wore actually a branch from the Thracians , that split up and formed a new empire.
The Dacians didn't disappear from historical record though. You can still find references until they become Romanians.
The Thracian Culture and Ethnic Identity:
The Thracian culture emerged during the early Bronze Age, around 3500 BC, and from it developed various regional groups, including the Getae, the Dacians, and others. These groups were consistently considered Thracian by ancient historians such as Dio Cassius, Trogus Pompeius, Appian, Strabo, Herodotus, and Pliny the Elder, who noted that the Dacians and Getae spoke the same Thracian language.
Indo-Europeanization and Cultural Development:
By the beginning of the Bronze Age, the region had completed its Indo-Europeanization. The inhabitants, initially proto-Thracians, evolved into distinct groups such as the Danubian-Carpathian Geto-Dacians and the Thracians of the eastern Balkan Peninsula by the Iron Age.
Getae and Dacians: A Unified Identity:
Strabo, an ancient Greek geographer, and other classical authors argued that the Daci and the Getae were essentially the same people, distinguished mainly by their geographic locations. The Daci lived in the western region towards the Pannonian plain (Transylvania), while the Getae were situated further east towards the Black Sea coast (Scythia Minor). Strabo's view, widely supported by other sources, suggests that the distinction between Dacians and Getae is largely artificial, with both groups speaking the same language and sharing a common Thracian heritage.
Strabo's accounts, along with other ancient sources, have led some modern historians to consider that if the Thracian ethnic group were to be divided, one of these divisions should be the "Daco-Getae." Linguist Ivan Duridanov identified a "Dacian linguistic area" in Dacia, Scythia Minor, Lower Moesia, and Upper Moesia. Romanian scholars, such as historian Constantin C. Giurescu, have often gone further, claiming that the Getae and Dacians were identical. Archaeologist Mircea Babeș even spoke of a "veritable ethno-cultural unity" between the two groups. Similarly, Glanville Price pointed out that Strabo's account shows the Getae and Dacians were one and the same people.
Early Mentions and Historical Accounts:
Herodotus, the ancient Greek historian, described the Getae as "the noblest as well as the most just of all the Thracian tribes." He highlighted their belief in the immortality of the soul and their practice of considering death merely a change of country. This early mention of the Getae establishes their Thracian roots and their cultural and religious beliefs.
Roman Accounts and Terminology:
In his Roman History (circa 200 AD), Cassius Dio noted the interchangeable use of the terms Dacians and Getae. He clarified that the Dacians, as referred to by the Romans, were the same people whom the Greeks called Getae. Dio pointed out that the Dacians lived on both sides of the Lower Danube, with those south of the river known as Moesians and those north as Dacians. He emphasized that these groups were essentially Thracians of Dacian race.
The Bulgarian historian Alexander Fol considered that the Getae became known as "Dacians" in Greek and Latin texts by writers such as Caesar, Strabo, and Pliny the Elder, as Roman observers adopted the name of the Dacian tribe to refer to all the unconquered inhabitants north of the Danube. Edward Bunbury similarly believed that while the Getae were originally known to the Greeks on the Euxine, the name Dacians was used by the Romans to refer to the western tribes adjoining the Pannonians.
Classical and Poetic References:
The Dacians were variously referred to as Getae or Daci in ancient texts. Herodotus was the first to use the term Getae. Julius Caesar, Strabo, and Pliny the Elder also referred to these people, often interchangeably, as Dacians or Getae. Latin poets like Vergil, Lucian, Horace, and Juvenal used both terms in their works, reflecting interchangeability in naming. Modern historians prefer the term Geto-Dacians to encompass both groups. Scholars such as James Minahan, Catherine B. Avery, David Sandler Berkowitz, and Philip Matyszak support the view that the Greeks called these people Getae, while the Romans called them Daci.
Linguistic and Cultural Identity:
The Dacians and Getae spoke the Dacian language, which is debatedly related to the Thracian language, potentially as a subgroup. Many scholars, drawing from Strabo's accounts, agree that the Getae and Dacians were the same people. Modern historians and writers, such as James Minahan, Catherine B. Avery, David Sandler Berkowitz, and Philip Matyszak, have supported this view. Notable scholars, including the Bulgarian historian Alexander Fol and the British historian Edward Bunbury, have also supported the perspective that the terms "Dacians" and "Getae" referred to the same people at different stages of their history. As a result, the concept of a "Geto-Dacian" culture has become prevalent in modern scholarship.
Conclusion:
The Getae and Dacians are best understood as closely related, if not identical, Thracian tribes. Ancient sources consistently treated them as such, and modern scholarship supports this unified identity, often using the term Geto-Dacians to describe their shared culture and language.
Great essay, thank you!
Thank you, Wikipedia
@@lost_porkchop It was a bit of ChatGPT and Wikipedia work yeah XD but overall I say it's informative and true regarding all the ancient and modern sources that share the same point of view
Oho mistar kapanool the getae dacians ssnd tracians was scityans sarmat iranic and. Masagetae and dacians cekto germans. Tribe stop bulsit rumenians vlachs are ilirians migrant 1200 in dacia in kumans khazar kiocak empireavars huns stock
@@Kapanol97kapanool you eat bulsit Dobrogea was called scitya minor and Bulgaria scityans tribe getae dacians was celto austriac
The roman helmets were modified to be more resistant to dacian weapons as they were quite effective at puncturing the top of the helmets.
Criminally underrated civilization.
Compared with ?
@@plc20100 basically any other ancient civilization and even unorganised tribes.
@@IvanKarAmazoV421 Really ? How civilised is yours ? :D A bastard from Siberia... :D
@@plc20100 you don't know who that is, you don't talk to me
, yes. They kicked the asses of all those who wanted to trasspass their territories. Too bad they were unable to stop the Roman Empire, but they held them back for many years.
Never clicked so fast on a video! Thank you so much for this fascinating video 🙏🏻 it makes us, Romanians, so proud of our history.
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What victory?😂
You lost everything, even your language
Great video! I'm honored to be somewhat related to both Romans and Dacians, as I'm Romanian myself. The only correction from my side - it's "Sarmizegetusa", not "Sarmizetegusa" :D
Wow, I was Waiting for this video for 4 years since I started watching your TH-cam channel
Dacia is still in Romania. Dacia never disappeared. Just adapted to the new eve. Romania is Dacia and it will remain so for the future. The Balkans do not forget the old cultures. Romania is surrounded by the Slav population but The Slavs did not destroy the older natives of this region. They mingle with them and integrate them. This is why The East or Europe is sooo different in culture, religion, and traditions to the rest of Europe. Great video! Thank you! This mega statue of Decebalus is still guarding the land, so people will never forget their roots!
Only the Dacians has disappeared. After the Avars came, the Pechenegs, the Cumans and lately the Vlach shepherds from the Balcan peninsula.
@@vasarelly37 This is Hungarian theory. Only Hungarians claim this. Every other scholar in Europe thinks otherwise. No population disappeared from history like that. Remember that at that time, Dacia was 80% forest. All invaders remained on those lands for a short time because it wasn't easy to settle. Nomads are not used to live in towns. Except for some Slavic tribes and some Pecheneg, nobody remained in Dacia. They all went to rich places like Italy. The reason why some Vlachs live in the Balkans is that some natives retreated with the Roman army and settled In Moesia, Ilyria, and Greece. This was in short numbers. The eastern Roman scholars and later the Byzantines, stated the same. In the entire history of Europe, no population disappeared as you claim. They mingle with others but they stay in their lands. For the people at that time, the world was really small. Most of them never move from their village radius except for battles or commercial reasons. The families stay. The Hungarian so-called theory is supported only by Hungarian historians. And that is politically biased. Nobody else.
Perfect timing. Currently, I'm on vacation in Bucharest, went to visit the museum yesterday. 😁
I see our northern cousins, I upvote.
Cheers! 🍺
I'm Romanian. But, I wish my country was named Dacia and we would be refered to as Dacians. We still have so many words that we use even nowadays from the Dacian language.
My grandpa was so proud that his mother's last name was Trache which is a Tracian name. I took a DNA test and it confirmed we are from the region of Dacia. I wish he would still be alive to share that with him. But, just like our old believes I know he is up there with all my ancestors, and I'll join them once my journey here is over. Long live the Dacians!
To be fair,the specific dialect of the country is daco-romanian, as opposed to a- istro- and megleno- -romanian.
Ai cateva cuvinte ,nu "so many "....
@@mariussantamarian9766 A da? Peste 300 de cuvinte dintr-o limbă străveche ți se par câteva?
@@ToniSerban-bt7mk pai da...limba romana contine 120 000 de cuvinte. 300 nu este mult de loc..
@@dienamychd7611 mențin idea că pentru o civilizație care a existat pe aceste tărâmuri dinaintea oricărei alte civilizații...300 de cuvinte străvechi sunt destule, chiar și din 120000. Acum agree to disagree. Commentul meu nu se focusa atât pe numărul de cuvinte. Dar fiecare se focusează pe ce vrea.
Finally someone love history and not being ignorant about Dacians.
It is not well to say that they could have originated from the Caspian Sea region or from Anatolia. As in many European regions, the main genetic pools for this area were three: the ancient Europeans, Anatolian farmers, and Indo-Europeans. In this area, they contributed in roughly equal parts, with a slight prevalence for the ancient Europeans. Even before the arrival of the Indo-Europeans, cultures like Cucuteni had flourishing settlements of many thousands of people. The Indo-Europeans brought with them the language and generated the Bronze Age civilization in the area. We then have the Basarabi culture, which is the first homogeneous culture on this territory, a sort of proto-Getae. We then have the Scytho-Iranian invasions, with the first form of the Iron Age, which also brought a new ruling class, but the Scythians mostly remained on the eastern border. This certainly formed the Getae tribes. We then have Celtic influence in Transylvania, which crystallizes the transformation into the Dacian civilization. The first great kingdom of Burebista is "Geto-Dacian," Burebista probably being from south of the Carpathians, but moving his power base towards the Orăștie Mountains.
It is interesting that the Romans, Byzantines, and Ottomans all had difficulty controlling the region north of the Danube. Making the area a vassal state was the best most hegemonic powers could accomplish.
@Constantin_de_România that is not correct
@Constantin_de_România Plenty of communist countries were not members of the USSR but were allies of the Warsaw Pact.
The USSR was able to crush rebellions in Hungary and Czechoslovakia. But they did not have such control in all areas of communist Cold War Europe.
Yugoslavia and Albania probably were the most independent countries from the USSR during the Cold War. Tito in Yugoslavia prided himself on being something of a non-aligned player in the Cold War.
This was a role much like Franco and Salazar in Spain and Portugal during WWII. They were fascists but were not drawn into Hitler's war.
@Constantin_de_România Additionally Romania was criticized for its totalitarian child-rearing policies during the Cold War in order to boost the population.
Nicolae Ceausescu's policies led to the institutionalization of over 100,000 children in state-run orphanages by the end of his rule in 1989. Childless people were taxed and oppressed. Conditions in the orphanages were terrible. Many children born from that time are still looking for their parents and are having difficulty reintegrating into society.
@KingsandGenerals True! He can say that (I'm a Romanian) we opposed the invasion of czechoslovakia and other dirty stuff made by Kremlin but we were not the only country outside of CCP but in communist block
@@AAAA-lt9hqyou mean what US tries now? To ban abortion ?
I appreciate your mentioning the doubts and debates. Many documentary filmmakers act like they know everything for sure.
Another great video! Keep up the good work!
Awesome topic. I hope you will cover even into the migration period--Avars, Lombards, Ostrogoths, Alans, Franks, Burgundians, Bavarians, etc.
I hope more hungarians see this, history is always complicated
so dacia province have existed for 160 years only...and it was 2000years ago,
then check your dnas how much dacian genes you got...close to zero even cumins had more lasting effect
Love these chaps. Romans thought they were just a tribe likie any other, but they checked the Romans for a while and had incredible cities, culture, art and warfare.
Culture? They didn't even have writing. And Sarmizegetusa was the only settlement that you could have call a city. Besides the sacred precinct it was just a big village. As for art, for it to be incredible pretty jewels are not enough.
@@UlmoLOTR you're confusing culture and civilization. besides, just because we don't have known clear sources of Dacian or Thracian writings, it does not mean that they did not exist, especially since most common writings done in the area, if existed (likely did), would've been on perishable materials like animal hides, tree bark and so on.
if by art you refer to written literature or poetry, maybe you're right but Dacians were amazing artisans as they had a pretty insane metallurgy for that time, including using complicated lamination processes just in order to forge some Macedonian coins. they also had extensive plumbing systems with pipes made of lead as well as ceramics.
you should document yourself more about Dacians.
@@jonsnow7092 I read plenty about the Dacians.
I wander how you believe it is logical to say that they wrote on hides and bark since they had plenty of stone, metal or even wax, like the Romans had.
And the water pipes were built by the Romans when Dacia was a vasal state or after the conquest.
@@UlmoLOTRYou are wrong, the Dacians were advanced, why are you lying?
@@Alin-ro6jb Advanced by what standard?
The carpi used to live in the Carpatian mountains givin them their name.
That's not necessarily the case. From what we know the Carpi originate from East of the mountains in modern Moldova. They were probably called Carpi because they lived beyond the mountains from a Roman point of view.
@@zuraorokamono204 And Costobocs were Free Dacians.
The withdrawal of Aurelian is given too much importance. Dacia was part of Rome until much later since Constantine the Great built a bridge over Danube and also multiple fortifications as far as 200 km north of Danube. Constantine took the title Gothicus Maximus and named the region of today south Romania as Gothia. Rome loses control of territory north of Danube at the time of Justinian (early sixth century).
For real? The entire Dacia was under Roman occupation? Not just 33% of Dacia? Maybe read more history. And Aurelianian withdrawal happened because of multiple revolts. It didn't just happened because the Roman Empire got bored. And those revolts were led by the free Dacians.
@@dargaard3339 untrue. More like 66% of Dacia was Roman, the other 33% was Gothic (Germanic) and some remaining free Dacian tribes. The Dacians never revolted against the Roman colonists because most of them were women. If you’re talking about the free Dacians who fought alongside the goths against the Romans, well they were not under Roman rule to begin with. The Roman presence in Dacia had a profound impact on the people living there today. We Romanians speak a latin language and continue calling ourselves Romans to this day.
I've been waiting for this moment a long time!
Same
so dacia province have existed for 160 years only...and it was 2000years ago,
then check your dnas how much dacian genes you got...close to zero even cumins had more lasting effect
Fascinating!
This is the sort of think I was referring to in the Punic War video when suggesting a video or series about the Carthaginians
Cool. What I knew about the Dacians was basically, foil for various ambitious Romans.
Decebalus even got weapons and military instructors from the disgraced Domitian. When Emperor Trajan launched his first campaign agains the Dacians, he found this unexpected issue and was forced to develop new armor and siege engines to conquer the tough veteran barbarians.
there were no barbarians
Finally a video about our ancestors, the Dacians. Many thanks Kings and Generals! :)
And you are a Romanian, I suppose?! The Dacians are not the ancestors of modern Romanians. The Vlach shepherds from the Balcan peninsula (Illyria) are.
I have been waiting fir this video for years. Glad I kept asking for it in the comments .
Amazing video ! What a people the Dacians 🇷🇴💪🏻
I would love to see an episode about the Avars. Their connection to the Rouran Khaganate is fascinating. It's a shame that most of these nomadic civilizations don't leave written archives behind.
You mean the pseudo Avars(Mongoloids) of Avar Khanate? Because there are a Caucasian people also called avars
Ofcourse. But the caucasian Avars cannot be the descendants of the Rourans.
Btw the Palóc people might be the descendants of the Pannonian Avars.@@BarlasofIndus
please do an episode on the Massagetae people.
Thank you - so much to learn, there is no end to the stories from history !
Another amazing video KnG! as always.
Glad to see your video art getting better and better ❤
This documentary should be played in Hungary’s academic 3rd grade.
so dacia province have existed for 160 years only...and it was 2000years ago,
then check your dnas how much dacian genes you got...close to zero even cumins had more lasting effect
A very much needed episode !
Asked for it, got it, happy ! Great video !
Very appreciated. Thanks!
Amazing documentary, thank you
Thank you for letting me watch this. It's nice. You got +1 subscriber
Excellent video 📹
Real people with history
Thank you for making a video about my ancestors. ❤️😎👍🏼
😂😂😂😂😂😂
He is talking about the Dacians and not about your ancestors, the Vlach shepherds from the Balcan peninsula.
@@vasarelly37 Well, I was born In Romania, and my Grandparents were both from “Sarmisegetuta.” the capital of old Dacia…. Still stands to this day.😎✌️
So, what's the next? Minoans? Mycaneans?
They’re already done Mycenaean, but I would love to see them expand on them
I love that you are talking about all the Total War Roman 2 factions
Correction: Not Sarmizetegusa, but Sarmizegetusa. Pronounced Sar-mi-ze-dje-too-za. It apparently meant "place of Sarmatians and Getae", as can be seen in the name even today.
"Pronounced Sar-mi-ze-dje-too-za"
Actually, it is pronounced Sar - mi - se - dje - too - za.
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
❤ that you gave Dacians the well deserved attention.
We dont know for sure how much Dacian blood🩸we have in our veins today, or how much of our DNA. But Dacians are 100% the spiritual ancestors of Romanians. As you say... Dacians were more than 1 tribe themselves and were in contact with several cultures. Until ... they united. Not a very difficult DNA task for us then.
so dacia province have existed for 160 years only...and it was 2000years ago,
then check your dnas how much dacian genes you got...close to zero even cumins had more lasting effect
ADN-UL romanilor : 67% greco-latin , 33% slav, baltic , maghiar , asiatic ,german.
Definitely running to the comments for this one
It's interesting that in Romania the people called Romania are called Romana. It would be interesting to talk about the origins of Romania and the limit of the Latin world. The Romanian language is very similar to Portuguese
We call our country Romania because we're the only Latin people that continued to call ourselves Romans. The Romanian people came into being after the Roman conquest and settlement of Dacia.
Actually the Romanian language has much more in common with french then portuguese, but all latin based languages really sound similar
No, Romanian language has nothing to do with portuguese
@@danielblitzke3909 lol. Seek some basic education about languages before commenting. Thank you.
I m happy bcz i m from România. Very nice country with history. ❤❤❤
Moldova, taken over by Stalin, belongs to Romania. Ukraine, an artificial, very new state, has never had anything in common with the Romanian territories, history, culture, and language-Bucovina and other territories were also stolen by Stalin at the end of WW2 and given to Ukraine not even to Moldova. Hungarian tribes, who constantly attacked Europe, eventually established where they are today - in Dacian lands. They showed up only in the 10th century. In the 6th century, the Slavic tribes arrived around former Dacia that has a long time ago evolved into the incipient modern nation, whose lands would become the modern state of Romania. The Dacians never "vanished" from those lands. The stage of the Daco-Roman people ended in time with the formation of the modern Romanian people. There is continuity here - nothing, nobody, just vanished. Of course, there are minorities, as they are in all the European countries which also were heading towards their own modern states.
A little correction - the Celts have been assimilated by the local people, not vice versa.
The language spoken for millennia in those lands is the Latin language that has nothing in common with Celts, Slavs, Hungarians, and you name it. As happened in all European countries invasions, and wars, all of these happened until the modern people, languages, and borders settled more or less. Those tribes came into those lands, leaving or being assimilated by the local people. The Romanian language doesn't have dialects, but only regionalisms, meaning that they communicate and understand each other perfectly wherever they are in those lands. It is the closest language to Italian.
I am not sure if I remember well the history lessons I was taught in school, but they believed in immortality and whenever they wanted to send an important message to the gods, they would select a brave warrior, who would throw himself into a pit full of spears. Iaics
Awesome. I cannot wait for Minoans
Some say that the Dacian’s language disappeared, but latin got many words from it, and now latin is the base of many European languages. Some even argue that Latin comes from what was spoken in Dacia / Tracia region…
thank you K&G for another good video ❤
This video was very informative, some facts are not right but 95% it’s there.
Lovely, thank you!❤
Now wonder why Constantine gate from Rome has 4 dacians standing and the Trajan collum is all about the Dacian wars.
Because Dacian are awesome, and someone needed to mark into history their greatness, since Dacians didn't bothered to leave us some written historical heritage.
@@Lalw We Romanians have more to do with Romans than with Dacians. The reason there are statues of Dacians on the arch of Constantine is to commemorate his partial reconquest of Dacia in his campaign against the Goths. Those statues weren’t sculpted in Constantine’s time but were actually taken from Trajan’s forum and placed atop the arch.
@@octaviantimisoreanu5810 or Romans with us, however genetically we are more related with our Slavic neighbours as per some studies.
Anyways, history is a story shaped by people with rich fantasy and political interest, and if you think 160 years is long enough to become more roman, and our Dacian mothers to teach us Latin instead of native language, when the troops during age of empires where a mix of nations, then all hopes are lost of us, and no long until we will declare ourselves of other origins which we deem cool because we like to be copies, not part of an original DNA makeup.
Surely each one can be of which originins want to be, under our apparent freedom.
Informative, people should search writings from Sulina port during or right after ottoman occupation of 400 years, it's an interesting mix of Romanian (predominant) , French and Turkish, and let's not forget about the multicultural background in the area, where etnic Lipovans, Hahols, Turks, Tatars, Greeks etc still speak their community languages, under so many wind of political changes, and hundreds of years.
Last but not least, the knowledge of foreign languages should be used wisely to read books wrriten by European historians, researchers and etimologists etc which will reveal different point of views, some far different than what we are taught or wrriten in romanian.
@@octaviantimisoreanu5810 thank you for sharing your point of view.
I do know enough languages and have quite a handful of books written by people which base their work on actual research to form my own opinion about my heritage.
You're free to be more roman if it pleases you, however I'm more Get.
@@Lalw Well you're free to identify as non-binary space pirate if you like, but in objective reality, Romanians are Roman, irrespective of whatever your feelings are on the matter. Thank you.
As a Romanian, thank you for your hard work, great video! One thing to mention though, the Dacian capital is spelled Sarmisegetuza and therefore pronunced differently, hope this helps!
Awesome video! Thanks,Kings and Generals!
You should make a video on the Makurians, very interesting history indeed
Back with another banger eh?
Finally a great video about legendary Dacians ❤
so dacia province have existed for 160 years only...and it was 2000years ago,
then check your dnas how much dacian genes you got...close to zero even cumins had more lasting effect
I find the lack of mention of the legendary Dacia Sandero worrying.
Excellent joke! 😂
Thank you for sharing with us!
Hungary was 8000 miles away digging their way to Europe 😂
Back then Hungary wasn't even a fart.
They simply didn't exist.
@@_JOJ_ when i listen to Iran language vs Hungary language the audio is the same omg.But they still think are from Transylvania region haha .
@@deluxecapprian983 Dacians have nothing to do with romanians... Learn history kid... Thats like saying the Avars or the Huns were Hungarian, when infact they werent.
@@relhithrrdn you contradict yourself: history, tradition , language and not least of all common sense show that Dacians are the ancestors of the Romanian folk.
@@relhithrrdn instead of spreading lies and misinformation maybe you should say thanks to romanians for freeing you of bolsheviks - learn history August 1919. You're welcome, kid.
Amazingly done as always but why dont you do videos on Chaldeans and amorites too ?
Romania here 😅
As a Romanian, I really love and appreciate your documentary, thanks for this!
I do however have to say that 5 minutes in I started laughing because your voice sounds like a South Park Canadian narrator and I couldn't unhear it after that. 😄
The Dacian tribes consisted of the Sanderos, the Logans, the Dusters, and the Dokkers
Nu uita și de tribul dobitocilor din care te tragi tu :)
Thank you for another excellent video! I'm looking forward to the next overview in this series. I quite enjoy these videos on the less-covered peoples of history.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Thanks!
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
At 7:55 Burebista's equipment is inspired from my father's reenactment gear, our historical reenactment asociation Geto-Dacii din Moldova. Your art is very beautiful as always and the information is easy to digest!!!Cheers from Romania 🇷🇴🇲🇩
A Spectacular Video.
Romania has a giant carving of Decebalus on the side of a mountain overlooking the Danube river on the border with Serbia. It's like Romania's Mount Rushmore 😂
why is this so underrated
În the România historia Brooks the roman Dacian war în 86-88 was a victory for the dacians and they held all their territory north of the Danube.
In Romanian history books, civilization started in Dacia )
@@MihaiArdelean-m1mYeah and some of the dacopats believe that even Jesus was a daco-romanian.
Thx for this video!
It seems that the geti tribes were more numerous than is generally known. Apart from the Romanian area, there were also the Tyrageti in the north of the Black Sea or the mysterious Massageti with Queen Tomiris in the area of the Caspian Sea up to the Tarim Basin in western China.
The Tyragetae and Messagetae were not related to the Getae at all. They were Sarmatians. The Greeks had this annoying habit of naming newly encountered tribes after known ones, which is why in Greek sources almost all steppe nomads are known as Scythians even though they were not.
@@SirAdrian87 I only know the story that their name given by the Greeks literally means the Getae from the river Tyras and the Great Getae, which does not quite match the Scythian version. In addition, I think you know the discoveries of blonde mummies in western China. The Scythians don't think they were blond.
Another fantastic ancient history documentary! This channel is a goldmine for history buffs.
it's strange how in just 165 years of roman occupation it left such an mark on the region, especially on the language. Comparing with other provinces like Britain, witch was longer under roman rule (aprox 450 years) and the language spoken today has nothing to do with latin.
The same argument is brought by a Romanian nationalist current called dacopatie. Part of it claims that the Thracian-Daco-Getians would have spoken a language sister to Latin or a compatible one. Moreover, the Spanish researcher Carmen Huertas has a theory of the same kind on the Spanish side.
Dacia had a lot of gold. And I do mean a lot. It was very heavily settled by people from all corners of the empire, people whose only common language was Latin. Just to give you an example within 40 years the province had multiple colonia, which was the highest status a roman provincial city could attain. There were also 3 full legion stationed in the area at all times with veterans being given land in Dacia.
Britain on the other hand was a backwater province at the edge of the empire. It was the poorest province in the empire and while it had useful resources there was nothing that would want to make someone from roman Greece or Egypt want to go there.
Moreover Dacia was also helped by terrain. The relatively tall plateau of the Carpathian arch allowed the romanised population to survive the migration period as wooded mountain areas are generally of little interest to nomads, whereas in Britain the relatively flat relief allowed the Romano-Brittish were subsumed by the invading Saxons in short order.
It makes more sense if you consider trade over the river was easier than over the channel,the number of roman settlers, the people who conquered the teritorries after and their culrural and population power, etc.
Though it's not technically a "Latin" language, English includes a great many words of Latin origin.
It is strange that during Pompey the Great, Romans were still campaigning in Hispania (and were awarded triumphs for that), while 160 years later, Hispania was giving first Roman Emperor. Imagine what a mark Romans left on Hispania. And this isn't strange to you, ain't it?
I was waiting for this. I hope the Phrygians are coming too