OWON SDS1102 Oscilloscope Review & Tear Down
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- OWON SDS1102 Oscilloscope Review & Tear Down
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Thank you for taking the time to go through this scope in detail - i do like the thin design/footprint and the simplicity of the insides is actually quite impressive.
The distinction you made between cost saving (cost efficient) and cheap layout. 👌👋👍
After my last relationship,
Electronics > marriage.
Congrats on the new scope! =)
Liked and subscribed! No shame in your oscilloscope habit, as it helps advise folks like myself on our purchase decisions. Thank you for this review. This looks like a good, affordable one.
I have had this scope for about a year now and for the price it’s been really good.
Keep them sound effects coming. I had a good laugh watching this when the sound effects were on. Regarding this scope, I actually have one of these here. I would be lost without it. I used it to troubleshoot a car cassette player one day. Found the trouble very quickly.
Awesome review, dude. It really looks nice! 😊
BTW, recognizing the problem is the first step. 😬
nice video dude, thanks for upload.
One dozen cheap scopes < one good scope. I have a Rigol MSO1104Z with all options. It does a lot very well, but falls short for serious SPI or I2C troubleshooting. Falls short on Math functions too. And there are a few things that my ancient Hitachi V-1050F still does better such as X-Y timebase. Knowing what I know now, I would have saved up for the MSO5104 with all options at twice the price. Thanks for the review.
Thanks for the video
Thank you for another great review! I'm about to buy the Owon SDS1102, or the Hantek DSO5102P, and I noticed that you also think it's a hard choice.
i have the hantek and can thoroughly recommend it, if that helps!
I have to see the video in pauses paul because my eyes are terrible and require a new pair of lenses + filter for UV. So far so good, but thats a really nice compact scope, it will leave the bench with extra space or carrrying around for external service. At 7:00 there is a M symbol when you select Probe ou MeasureCurr, Does it means it has extra options by pressing one button called Menu or M? ( Edit it appear when it has a numerical value or the extra manual that has to be manually changed by knob , thats a feature for indication). Screen looks crisp
I only wish I could be 'ashamed' of having all those scopes. XD ... marriage is why we can't have nice things.
I just got the 4 channel version of this scope which is the SDS1104 since you replied that Owon scopes are pretty decent in another video, and I gotta thank you cause the scope really is pretty damn good for the price and it was even $100 cheaper than the Rigol 1054Z. Amazing how crisp and bright the screen is on the Owon (doesn't really come across on video) and it works really well and I love that it doesn't have any obnoxious fans humming in the background
Considering they are using near identical model names to the Siglent scopes it was a bit of a red flag to me initially but clearly Owon makes decent stuff, absolutely a phenomenal 4 channel scope for the price and I'm surprised there isn't more coverage on them cause I could definitely see it being a Rigol killer and the 1054Z has been on the market for maybe a bit too long anyway
Owon is owned by Lilliput Technologies. They are a huge manufacturer in China.
Just received my SDS1102. Your video is very helpful. Need a video on how to properly connect to electronic components for repairs. What would you suggest? Thank you.
do you recommend this oscilloscope for this price
I am not saying that you have a scope addiction but maybe you should start every video with: "Hi my name is ..... and I love scopes" :-)
Hey Paul! That was a good easy going, soothing review ... i really enjoyed your surprise and speechlessness when you took the back off .. and my dog would also say "... and it's OK to kill chickens?"! .. and yes peace brother and God Bless.
the thing that made my day is hearing you say " this is why i am not married "hahaha , i love your videos more and more. cheers!
Looks very nice and does a wonderful job. What it doesn't do is give you the soft comforting glow and winter warmth of a 545B gently rumbling away in the workshop. (Or suck electricity like 10 bastards) (Or weigh a hundredweight). I want one of those or a Rigol.
Is this battery powered? Is there any similar scope in the market like the one you’re reviewing battery powered? Thanks in advance
Now I have another oscilloscope to consider. You mentioned the Hantek 5102p 100MHz oscilloscope... Does the Hantek oscilloscopes have hold off function? I saw a Dave Jones video EEV Blog about using the hold off function.
you recommend it as a first Oscilloscope? what it will be your choice ? for 250$?
Not a bad little scope for the money, would work great as a starter scope for someone who just getting into the hobby. I would definitely like to see more shielding inside that thing, it looks to be begging for some noisy interference if it was on my bench. Great video Paul (even with the sound effects).
I work fixing High End Audio, I have many scopes, one 150Mhz Agilent inclusive, let me tell you something, the FFT works better in this cheap scope than my Agilent.
I bought this scope for use with my curve tracer only.
For someone live me is a very good option if you are in budget.
This is identical to the Hantek scope I just bought. It works fine except when the iec lead is knocked and there's a click iside and it turns itself off! I paid £199 for it
thanks for the great teardown mate. im just about up to the bit where ya rip it apart. it is a bit of a shame about that loooooong cable. im keen to see if this thing can handle my extreme frequency square waves of 12mhz. its still way below its bandwidth limit - but those rounded edges etc.
Where's the review of the FFT capabilities?
Hello! I'm still searching for the model I want to buy. But I guess that this OWON is better than that low budget FNIRSI, isn't it? At least it's powered by a PSU, not from an external "phone charger". And they've put metal thread insertions in the case instead of a raw plastic. I've seen how you've broke that case in another review.
Yeah, the cageless PSU looks aweful... But at least they've put radiators on the processing units. Hantek doesn't do that :D And their similar model(s) is more expensive.
My main concern... Do I need a function generator if I'll be working with small BJT transistors?
Also the main thing I want to know: how good is this (SDS1102) scope measuring DC voltages below 1v? Another review (with comparison) did show that Hantek and FNIRSI are in "anywhere than the actual value" range in terms of low DC measuring.
Oh, I thought it's the SDS1022, but what's the difference to the 1102?
It's very good for the price and that can always be put forth to justify missing features but while it does many things one wouldn't expect for the price, I know the lack of a single shot (and maybe, an external trigger input) would bug me after a while. Sometimes, you just want a quick look at a digital line, maybe to eliminate any analogue interactions (dwelling in the noise margin, slew-limited transitions, etc.) or need to actually read the initial bitstream on boot-up or whatever and having the scope already on the bench as one of the default instruments makes that a quick check function without resorting to logic analysers, etc. Thanks for your practical review.
It has single shot.
After watching this video, I bought one, I have a old B&K 5M scope from electronic school, That's still collecting dust in my closet...
Paul Good video's as always.
Hello, thankful for the review. I was quite happy about the layout and working of the unit until... you opened it up. It looks way too cheap to function reliably when measuring reliability and service life is concerned.
Perhaps I am wrong but even the power supply section looks quite dreadful. Did it make it to the second year?
I am on the market for a scope and I don't really know if I'll throw my money on something like this or the copy from Hanmatek. I am certainly a beginner but once I begin I make frequent use of my tools and I feel like buying this it might last me a couple of years without component failure before I'll have to buy something more decent, something that I should have bought in the first place to have the peace of mind of more robust measurements and prolonged service life.
Great to watch your videos. You are tearing down scopes. Why not you give away one to me!
Через 4 месяца осцил.накрылся во время включения. Накрылась ШИМ ка TLV62569(16AF) ,максимальное входное напряжение 5,5 вольта,U вых 1.28 В.Блок питания выдавал 5.68 В,во время включения наблюдался бросок напряжения до 6В,этого хватило для пробоя.Приколхозил DC-DC преобразователь отдельной платкой и осц. ожил.Понизил питание блока до 5.5В и поставил стабилитрон на 5.6В после дросселя,на всякий случай.Пока работает уже больше месяца.Советую протестировать блок питания и поставить защитный стабилитрон,потому как представитель OWONA сразу определил неисправность по переписке.Выслали ШИМку 16AF,жду до сих пор.
Any update on this beastie?
I have one, bought pretty cheap from Amazon , different brand name, but otherwise exactly the same.
It does a sort of decent job, but suffers from digital noise and, as a radio Ham, it does not do well in the vicinity of radios. Very noisy.
I bought this scope new a few days ago. Looks good so far, but the top function button is shorter than the others and is about one or two millimetres shorter than the rest and feels way less tactile (you can't feel any feedback on pressing it). I think this is a fault in the production, because when I opened it up to check if it's stuck, it seemed all fine apart from the difference in height for that single button on that rubber sheet. But because of the way how it's made, I think mine is just one of many with this issue. Can anyone else confirm that?
Hmmm..... One wife or lots of oscilloscopes? Not really a contest is it?
This guy gets it. My gf costs me easily as much as a new toy each month.
😂🤣
Why not both?
@ Cost. A wife is far more expensive than a hooker.
@@gordonlawrence1448 Old Navy saying: If it flies, floats or fucks, renting is ALWAYS cheaper.
I have the OWON model PDS6062S, I bougth it I think in 2009 and I still use it, I am starting again to repair as main job, this is my dream work and I dont want to depend on a boss that will just shoot me out of the business because of a "restructuration" like I already experienced years ago...Anyways, thanks for this videol !!!!!! Now I am subscribed to your channel !
What scope you reccomend for lower price?
Having problem with image saving, don't know why..
Did you try this function with success?
I was planning to remove the power board and place a li-ion batery pack to make it portable Would you know the voltage of the PSU?
That is not a bad scope, considering the price. I have one and it performs well above 100MHz. I have tested with my RF signal generator at 110MHz sinusoidal and it triggers the wave without issues and at 78mV RMS amplitude, around 30% down of what the generator is supplying.
The bandwidth should be measured in sinewave, not squarewave, but you know this. I just mention it because some people believe that if a scope can not show a "perfect" square wave at 20MHz, then it is limited to around that "frequency", and this is plain wrong.
A square wave is composed of a large series of sinusoidal waves, and when a scope manufacturer states that a bandwidth value is 100MHz, they are referring to a sinusoidal wave, not a square wave, and this has nothing to do with the brand of the scope.
Bought one of these a couple of years ago, it’s been in the shop more than I have used it. Plagued with dry joint problem which completely stop the unit working. Would not buy another. By the way it is currently back in the repairers.
Paul, what is your opinion of the Rigol 1054z, also a small scope?
Great scope!
One day you might either open a museum with oscillosopes or sell them all for a big Rohde & Schwarz :)
Do you get usable fast/hardware serial decode etc on any of these cheap scopes? Probe attenuation would be completely useless for me on this scope as it doesn't have 50x and 500x as needed by my differential probes.
But your missing the point of your probes cost more than the scope. Most people don't need that ability. But I looked hard at owon and bought Rigol when I got my new scope. Sometimes a little more money is well spent.
@@phillipbartlett1819 True. I originally used a Rigol but I found the Serial decode to be annoyingly slow so upgraded to a Keysight. These cheap scopes do leave me wondering if they're useful even for beginners however as they lack many features beginners need. Serial decode etc is very useful even if you're just messing around with Arduino.
For square waves (and high frequencies) you need a 50 ohm termination at the scope input, otherwise, like you said, the coax becomes resonant and looks like ringing. btw, risetime should be 0.35 / freq response of the scope (and probe with the probe usually increasing total bandwidth). Also make sure you turn off the 20MHz BW limit.
Plug at the side is not good, takes up space on the bench. Is there a 200Mhz hack for this?
How well FFT work on this?
Great review - super comprehensive. Danka.
[EDIT] - wheres the FFT? You said you were going to show FFT?? WTF - I want FFT!!! unhappy face.
I agree. This wasn't a comprehensive review. No bandwith test either..
Feels more like a rushed review.
I have the same and for me ' lab tech ) is the best for price / capabilities !!! a wonderful machine only that ... every day
Better to insult a man's wife, religion or mother than his oscilloscope.
Interesting, how this oscilloscope work around 100MHz. Anyway, like for your efforts. Thank you !
I don't know the voltage of the PSU but I think it is easy to mod it to a battery operated scope and take it with you on the go. Remove the original PSU, install a DC socket and place a battery (with BMS) instead of the PSU and tada, there you go!
I like my owon. Not the best, not the fastest, but great memory depth makes it pretty trustworthy.
Yeah, I have an SDS7102V+LAN 100MHz, 1Gs/s. There are some snags with the softwar but at least there were updates available and it should be somewhat hackable.
That is the model I have.
@@benbaselet2026 Hi, where did u find the updates? I have a 7102 which I like, excepting the crapy rotary switches.
@@ericslighton5813 The manufacturer's website I think, although there was also an owon related forum with posts about the firmware and links. It was a few years ago so I can't remember much more.
@@ericslighton5813 I don't think the source is available any more but if it helps I found the files I used years ago and uploaded them here if you want to take a look :)
petti.kapsi.fi/random/owon/
No shielding for this scope) tnx for the review
One can never have too many oscilloscopes! I'm at 22 and counting... (About half of them are in good working order, and the others are waiting for me to restore them...)
Vale a pena comprar?
This is IDENTICAL to the Hanmatek DOS1102 Oscilloscope. And I mean identical.
All made by Lilliput
How many mv/div is the max resolution?
Do I need external triggering because this doesn't have it.
Hi
I am a loyal viewer of your channel. Love the video's. Please don't use the sound effects. And maybe change the 70's p0rn jingle at the end? I always hum 'oh yeah baby feels so fine' at it...
One more thing. Regarding a Spectrum Analyzer - How about using an SDR as a budget Spectrum Analyzer? It's not a new idea. There seems to be software for it.
So we have two excuses for a new toy!
1) Radio Scanner
2) Spectrum Analyzer
I'm saving up to get SDRPlay Duo from Ham Radio Outlet.
I need excuses. I have a Wife. In case you don't know, it's a very expensive luxury item.
You really just need to tell everyone which scope to buy at each price point. Just tell me what to ask for for Christmas. Actually, come to think of it, I just did the KOTY (Kit of the Year) awards... You should totally do the SOTY scope of the year with superlatives at each category.
That's not a bad idea at all.
Hi All, want to ask a favour, i recently bought the Hanmatek clone of this scope off ebay and the 5.5v power supply has died on me(no output), i have modified the casing to take an external dc input so i can still use it. I cannot find a circuit diagram for this scope, i have checked all caps, diodes(except unmarked zener where voltage very low) transformer, i suspect either the PN8149 or optocoupler EL817. there is also a surface mount transistor but no markings on it, if anyone knows where i can find a circuit diagram for this power supply would be appreciated? Thanks in advance
It would be nice to see if the bandwith is within advertised spec
They go up to the sepcified bandwidth no problems. Accuracy is not like your Tektronix, but for a cheap scope they work well. Even being cheap, you get your monies worth with these. There is are other versions in different bandwidths, and they seem to meet the specs. They are about half the price now compared to the price when this video was made 4 years ago
Did you use your cupins to buy your scope? Did you get lucky! You purchased that from eBay, the electronic wrecking yard and you didn’t get a scope that was mullested as far as you can tell, wow that’s pretty impresive, buyer beware on purchasing anything from eBay, especially electronics, holy crap, the force was with you, wow.👍
About a month ago I purchased the same scope from Walmart for about $135. It went by another name, and OWAN was photoshopped out on the case.. I knew it was the same scope by the way it looked, and OWAN was on the screen in the software. I can't find it on Walmrt's sight any more.
what is the net weight while in box?
Please answer which oscilloscope is better? Hantek DSO2C10 or this
I'd buy the owon
where is the MicSig!???
which one is better hantek dso 5102p or that owon sds 1102?
I like the Owon out of the two
Hey don't feel bad. My ex told me that letting me go for a drunk was the worst thing she ever did. But now iam just 300 bucks shy of getting the oscilloscope I want. So you win some and you loose more.!
What is the size in cm?
Came here because my PDS5022s has died after ages sat in a box. Sadly, the teardown didn't show me the secret magic smoke refill slot.
Hello guys. I have to choose between Hantek DSO5102P or OWON SDS1102. I really like the small windows with measurements in OWON than this in Hantek. But Hantek have larger memory record - 40k vs 10k in OWON. Which one will be better?
En este enlace hay una revisión muy buena del Osciloscopio OWON SDS1102 th-cam.com/video/RaxE6pOxGHQ/w-d-xo.html
compre un hanmatek dos1102 y es exactamente lo mismo por dentro y por fuera, el firmware es el mismo solo que cambia el logo al encender.
buen dato!
So no external Trigger Input option? What about a more complex signal, like a Video signal or a Serial data signal say 9600Bd? Can it trigger on some data lines out of an old computer. What a bout a AM or FM IF /RF signals. Can I trigger on a Video TV line. I think any scoop to day can handle a square wave, So what are the real limits. Even the simple Voltcraft 20MHz 2Ch analog scoop of 30yrs old has a trigger input . Also no X-Y option? SO if this has NO trigger input is a peace of expensive toy.
So, do I hear a retraction on that "Cheap Chinese" comment?
I've got the SDS7102V. It's pretty nice.
No
I have sds1102x but generally while doing voltage measurements I get in Ampere
The magnitude seems to be okay but the unit!
Does Owon actually make that oscilloscope or is it made by one of China's so-called "White label manufacturers?" That identical scope, right down to the style of the knobs is sold under many different brand names, but it's obvious they come from the same factory.
I think they all come from the same factory
Some day I'll Own a real scope. This would fit the bill. Not like a Tektronix under the hood, eaaaa? I leave those protective films on as long as I can.
So which is better, this one or the FNIRSI 1014D? Also, do away with the sound effects. They're annoying.
single 5.5 volts supply.. may be 1-1.5 ampere. Hmm... is there anybody who powered it from USB or Li-Ion packs ?
You counted the boot time too slowly... Was more like 20-21 seconds... (Not that it matters much)
You overlooked the TI chip.
It's the CPU AM3352BZCZ060, up to 1-GHz Sitara ARM Cortex A8 32‑Bit RISC Processor according to the datasheet
This tear down is hilarious, even in 2024. You're the only one with a tear down. I was wondering if I could add more RAM or memory or a EPROM chip or something. I guess not.
How did it pass FCC inspection? Thanks for the zoom in on the board.
th-cam.com/video/AZhtmUoLKWQ/w-d-xo.html
Why is it all these cheap scopes use the same interface as the Hantek scopes. That signature blue color in the menu makes me think they have the same firmware. Might even use the same Hardware design.
I have a theory that they are all made in the same factory and rebadge just like Multimeters. Zotek makes meters for about 20 different brands. I'm betting that Lilliput does the same with scopes.
The colors can be changed though, if desired. Can even look like a Rigol if you want, although i dont like that background personally.
Nah, Dooooooiiiiiiiinnnnnngggg was a much better sound effect. I would assume that scope is non-repairable unless sent back to Owon.
Nice. Have a great weekend Paul.
Please help me decide with price range which one is best value
1. Hantek
2. Owon
3. Rigol
What do you want to use it for? Home hobby? Work? School?
@@learnelectronics pls i want to know too, i use it as hobby
Cheapest oscilloscope I could find at $214 with free shipping
LOL you are cracking me up man. This is why I'm not married. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA OMG one of the god-like introduction.
I wouldn't trade my wife for a chinese scope....but for a Tektronics, DONE!
I just don't understand why they can't ditch the crappy internal PSU and instead drive the unit from an external powerbrick.
That way the scope could be just an inch thick. Rear housing in stamped aluminum, and Bob's your uncle...
Nice price, but looks real cheap inside. Manufactured 2 years ago also.
Was hoping this would be a new model, but maybe not so much?
Interesting video anyway, thank you very much.
Soundeffects? No, stop doing them! You got that? Stop doing them! You got that? Stop doing them! You got... Oh never mind.
About the being-maried-stuff: It's better to have an electric guitar or other loud electrical device. She screams for you, instead of at you. And the laws of mother nature are always the same, every day. Your love for electronics will never be in vain. :)
Guys help me this oscilloscope or hantek's
Owon
Anyone else missing the old chunky giant oscilloscopes?
I've got a Tektronix 456b (I think) in a closet. It weighs about 60lbs.
That's what I'm talking about right there. Now everything piece of equipment feels like an empty shell that is designed so it makes repair/modification more difficult. While it may be okay for consumer products, it shouldn't be for a technician or engineer.
At least for my taste, the actual trend is and feels awful, making products look portable even when they're not.
Only 10k of memory
that's why I'm not married .... lol