My rule of thumb is, if I already own a movie on Bluray and it received a quality transfer with good bonus features, I don't worry much about getting a 4k copy (Unless it's one of my favorites). If it's a movie I don't own yet, then I go for the 4k version, if available. The resolution bump definitely makes a difference. But, the biggest leap is having the HDR. You will see details and other things that you never even noticed in your movies, especially if you have a larger display.
@P T You're not necessarily wrong. I'm not as much of a stickler for audio as I am for picture quality. As long as I have my DTS Master Audio or Dolby True HD, I'm a happy camper. But, that's probably because my hearing isn't as good as it could be. HAHA!
@Louis Williams there are movies that dont get released in every region. Two that comes to mind is ghost in the shell on 4k. It was never released in europe and thankfully 4k is region free. Sadly, I wasn't as fortunate with häxan on bluray. It is region A ONLY and unless I get a region free disc player I am shit out of luck watching häxan in 1080p.
@Louis Williams I live in the UK and managed to pick up the Columbia collection imported from Amazon US while it was on offer. It worked out as £95 after currency conversion and all import/postal fees. And GBP is still fairly weak against USD. I could not even find anywhere to buy that collection in the UK and even when it was available I think it £200. Admittedly its not always worth it, but in that instance importing was definitely the way to go
I collected movies and t.v. shows on VHS for years. When DVDs became affordable, I switched over and upgraded my VHS collection to DVD. No more rewinding tapes for me... and the picture was better too. Then Blu-ray's came along and the picture quality went up again. I started out by buying only movies that I didn't already own on DVD... but as time went on, I began the expensive task of upgrading my DVD collection to Blu-ray. That upgrade is still going on. Then 4K started up... and while the picture quality did go up again, I don't find the difference to be quite as pronounced. Some movies will never look all that good on 4K... or on Blu-ray either. In the end, I have decided that Blu-ray is good enough for me. If a 4K version of a film comes out that also has the Blu-ray at a reasonable price, I have no problem with that. My xBox One will play 4K discs even though my T.V. is not 4K. If Blu-ray ever goes away, I think I would probably look more to some sort of streaming alternative... rather than undertake a third massive and expensive platform upgrade. I have more than 6,000 films and television season sets in my collection. It would just be too time-consuming and expensive to do it again. Blu-ray is good enough for my needs.
@@NinjaRunningWild I agree. And it's not just wasting my money either. It's also wasting my time too. I've spent 15+ years trying to upgrade my DVD collection to blu-ray... and that's still ongoing. If I were to start upgrading to 4K now (which I'm genuinely not interested in doing)... I'd be into my mid-to-late 70s before (potentially), I'd be where I am today with blu-ray. 4K, for me anyway, just doesn't make sense. In the end, I'd be upgrading just for the sake of collecting 4K. I'm not sure that's a good enough reason for me.
I'm the same, my only annoyance is that lots of big Blu-ray releases are not Atmos, only dts hdx, which I like, but I would like to be able to compare soundtracks.
No shame in sticking with what you have, but I will point out that of course you're not going to see any difference in watching 4k if you don't have a 4k TV*! I personally held out on collecting VHS, DVD, Blu-ray since they were all inferior to the quality seen at the movie theater. Recently upgraded from a 1080p VA panel TV to a 4k OLED TV and purchased a 4k UHD player. I have 20/20 vision and I am stunned at the difference! I'm not going to go out and buy every 4k UHD disc, they are just too expensive, but I plan to accumulate over the coming years since I expect streaming services will start to economizing their services at the detriment of their customers. IMO, where the technology really needs to go now is better color range. *I'll add that it probably doesn't make sense to have 4k with a small screen.
I own thousands of blu rays and I feel like the jump from blu to 4K isn’t as dramatic as the jump from dvd to blu was. There’s also no way I’m updating all of those blu rays I own to 4K for marginal improvement for some of them.
Your 100% right I recently upgraded my 1080p plasma to a 4k oled and don't get me wrong it is night and day when it comes to sport and nature documentaries. But movies it's nothing like the jump from dvd to blu ray on some 4k I can't notice a difference.. a lot of 4k TH-camrs must have the most sensitive eyes on the planet.. dune is amazing.but when it comes to the enjoyment of movies it's negligible..I would just upgrading to a oled tv
I'm definitely planning on upgrading, but I'll wait until it becomes a higher priority because of (further?) deterioration of my old 1080p tv. Already now, 4k tv's are the same price as, or even cheaper than, a 1080p tv of the same size. So basically, the future may make the decision for you! I'm buying 4k discs to "future-proof" myself.
correct me if I'm wrong but to my eye, we've hit a threshold for movie quality. I've seen some 4k movies before and I'm always blown away by how great it looks. But I usually have a similar reaction to 1080, it still looks amazing. i cant even imagine anything greater than 4k and by then it probably would look artificial.
It really depends on a couple of factors. Screen size, screen brightness, how far are you sit from your TV, how old the movie and your audio solution. In my living room I have a 2.1 soundbar I'm 15 ft away from my TV and it's a 65" so really the only benefit I get from 4K is HDR because my TV gets plenty bright enough. In my dedicated theater room I have a 5.1.2 klipsch reference speakers connected to an AV receiver with a 110" projector screen and a 4k HDR projector. For my living room it's had to tell the difference in my theater room 4k HDR is night and day. When you blow a picture of that big one of the main things you notice on a 1080p imagine is color banding with HDR it's basically gone and the Atmos DTS-X soundtracks are amazing.
@@waterzipper Don't forget it also depends on what you're looking at. Nature images might not show off the sharpness of the image, although the color could definitely make a difference. Change to an urban scene and then you begin to notice. There are many factors at play here, and it's better to have it and see it, than not have it and not know what you're missing. Or you just don't care and notice image fidelity. Many are like this so it's up to your tolerance level.
Felt the same way. Got my eyeglasses and was watching Mad Max Fury Road on BluRay. Then I was like "oh I see what they mean." With glasses I can see grains of sand. So I guess without glasses my worldview is HDR VHS vision.
I just started going into 4k as of today. I got a 4k TV, Ultra HD blu ray player, and started my collection with Top Gun: Maverick, Harry Potter Eight Film Collection, and Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back. I didn't realize there was HDR and SDR, but I was lucky enough to get a TV with HDR. I watched Harry Potter & The Chamber Of Secrets for the first demonstration of my TV and player, and I'm blown away at the quality of 4k. Makes watching all my favorite movies even more awesome!!! Very informative video and I subscribed. Thank you for sharing your insight!!!
I've tried watching 3 highly rated 4K discs back-to-back with their Blu-ray counterparts on my 65" 4K OLED TV and I could barely notice any difference even when I was seriously trying to find the difference. Furthermore, on 2 of the 3, I actually felt that I was slightly liking the look of the Blu-ray more than the 4K disc as the 4K image looked a little bit more artificial to me.
@@MunKeeButt67 Exactly, the over usage of green screens is throwing the movie off. The lighting is always the give away. That’s why I prefer 50s-00s films the best 🙌
@@ILoveTheAllCreator too many films now as well, as a kid in 70s, a film could be in a 1 screen cinema for 3 months, and the bigger cinemas had 3 screens. And they only came out on projector reel. There was more of an element of magic with the shortage of content. Now they squirt films out hundreds a month. Quantity over quality.
Upgrading from SD to HD makes a world of difference on screens as small as 32", but the upgrade from HD to UHD is rather underwhelming on my 49" display from a normal viewing distance. I also have a 1080p projector with a screen of about 80" and I'm very happy with regular old HD even at that size.
yup same. 1080p Epson shooting a 100 inch image that i sit maybe 7.5 to 9 feet back from. Looks just as good as the local cinema. Only thing that beats it visual and audio wise is imax.
My still upgrading my movies from DVD to Blu Ray,I still have a long way to go,as far as 4k goes not there yet I'm happy with my blu- rays,but Im thankful for this channel and others like it I have learned alot over a year span. Thank you again for the information.let's watch some movies!!!!!
I kinda skipped a generation I didn’t buy much dvds my family had a lot of vhs tapes and when I got my ps3 I started buying blu rays on my own but it would be nice to upgrade one day
I only have 10 or 20 4k blurays and still collectiing blurays and upgrading from dvds aswell all me dvds have been replaced with blurays now but still alot of movies I'd like and 4k is ok if you have a very expensive TV as I only have a samsung Tu8000 4k TV and the 4k discs look dark and hdr is weak so not worth it unless have a good TV I learnt the hard way after paying lots for a 4k player and my first 4k movie and was quite disappointed tbh yes the resolution is amazing just not bright and colourful like blurays in my opinion and I agree the going for DVD to blu ray was I massive upgrade but from bluray to 4k not so much as now mostb4k TV's have amazing upscaleing built in and even cheap ones like my TV. Ps I have watched a 4k disc on a LG oled with amazing hdr and yes is grate but unless you have oled or a very expensive other brand led it not worth it's it at all I regret buying a 4k player now lol hope this helps
The DCPs (Digital Cinema Package) for most movies delivered to theaters are between 150 GB and 300 GB for a 4K movie. The way they are encoded makes it possible to play the same DCP in 2K if your theater doesn't have a 4K projector. (the image is encoded using 12 bits per color JPEG2000 for the picture and each frame is encoded as a separate picture instead of using frame interpolation with key frames like we have in home formats such as H264 and H265/HEVC, sound is Atmos or 24bit/48KHz uncompressed PCM). If the film is easy to compress like 2D animation, it can be less than that. I remember a projectionist mentioning that he received a 60 GB DCP once. Most CGI heavy movies are released in theaters only in 2K. All 3D movies are projected only in 2K, as the digital cinema norms cannot handle 4K and 3D at the same time (as you need twice the framerate in 3D, because of 24 fps for each eye). One of the ways used for reducing the size of the files for Blu-rays (both HD or 4K) is chroma subsampling. A DCP, 2K or 4K, will always be in 4:4:4 but a 1080p Blu-ray will always be encoded in 4:2:2 or 4:2:0, and a 4K one in 4:2:0. This is the other reason why, additionally to the bigger color space / HDR, the image of a 4K Blu-ray can look sharper than a 1080p Blu-ray of the same movie, even if the movie only has a 2K master.
I just upgraded to 4k. Its worth every penny. Ive heard alot of people say its not worth it to them but everything is so much more lifelike, im sold. Im also an audio guy so having the better soundtrack was selling point enough for me even before i saw the difference between hd and 4k video
@@Lord_Medus So far: Alien, 5th element, ghost in the shell (original), gladiator, interstellar, prince of darkness,psycho, the quick and the dead,scott pilgrim, the shining, speed, into the spiderverse, they live, unforgiven, and war of the worlds. :)
Louis Williams watching a physycal 4k disc with hdr in an oled tv makes a great different compared to bluray. Benefits from 4k aren’t such great at streaming or a non oled tv
Same thing happened with blurays when they were first released. Plenty of low bitrate low quality transfer discs back then, and there are still some bad one being put out.
T2 will probably never be redone. James Cameron is really controlling over transfers of his films and none are released without his oversight. And sadly he just prefers his films not to look their age, no matter the cost. He isn’t even shy of simply George Lucasing his movies with new transfers.
Streaming today is only half the movies, because streaming for got the audio. Audio is SO compressed that you watch a movie and you have to dial up the volumes just to hear the movie you’re watching. Sometimes the volume is so Low to hear that you can’t hear anything at modest to medium volumes.
I'm glad you mentioned how some people may not like the HDR or film grian reduction, it's important to mention for people who aren't sure what to buy I'd say get the 4k combo, most 4k films I've seen usually have the standard blu ray disc as well and digital codes so if anything the 4k combo is the way to go. I've also noticed expired digital codes in films at Walmart for the films priced at 14.99 and when I tried to redeem them they still worked.
I was gifted a few months ago with a only one year old 50 inch Samsung 4K tv. I bought a 4K player soon after. Started buying 4K blu-rays and they are amazing. That being said, I still own some regular blu-rays and will still purchase both as one thing I also like about the 4K player is it also seems to make regular blu-ray discs look even better.
My family and I never upgraded to Blu-Ray. We simply stuck with DVD as we never really upgraded our TV sets. Our biggest set is 42 inches and my family actually lowered the refresh rate on it as they thought it was to realistic.
Don't forget about the new AV1 codec. It supposedly has superior compression to H.265, but since it's brand new it's only supported on the newest pc/home theater products.
I only ever buy 4k if: 1. I don't already own the movie or show on any previous format 2. The item at the time of purchase is 20 dollars or less 3. The price of the 4k is no more than 5 dollars of the blu ray version Honestly the difference in visual and audio quality isn't that large to justify breaking any of these rules
Also great hdr with dolby vision! There's a scene with Natalie Portman wearing an orange jumpsuit in Annihilation and the color POPS!! Also the DV on the Midsommar 4k looks astounding!
I think normal blu ray is fantastic, there's more content, it's cheaper and a "uncompressed" 1080p stream from a disc is still gonna look great even compared to some 4k streaming imo, plus integrated upscaling is really starting to get good. While some media definitely benefits greatly from HDR (i just finished arcane and it was awesome, my first proper HDR experience on my new LG C1), it's not gonna make a giant difference everywhere.
@@layzy24 I watched it on the C1 itself. Don't have to worry about compatibility with HDR or HDMi cables if you just watch it off the Tv's apps. When you start playing it it should confirm Dibly Vision somewhere on the scren and you're off to the races. I
@@steve4321able Sorry man, I use the UBP-X700. Haven't had any issues with it apart from the fact that you have to manually toggle Dobly Vision on and off, which can be annoying.
If it was just the resolution, I probably wouldn’t bother Regular blu-Rays upscaled on my 4K TV look fantastic - even DVDs look great. It’s really the extended color gamut that makes the biggest difference, really gorgeous!
Thanks for the detailed explanation of the differences between Blu Ray and 4K Blu Ray. Very helpful. And the 3 shot picture showing the difference between 4K, 1080P and 720P images, makes the difference in quality between the 3 formats crystal clear for me as I consider upgrading to a 4K TV.
good video.....since i started watching your channel 6 weeks ago i have added about 120...... 4K movies.....thanks alot...lol.....credit card will never be the same..lol...cheers from Canada and be safe all
It's a great way to build up a 4K movie library while still only owning a 1080p blu-ray player, assuming the 4K disc isn't defective, in which case you'll find out later on when you buy a 4K disc player.
Even though most of us are buying a 4K movie we prob already own on BD, it never hurts to have an extra copy (or two). I have had two 4K discs clap out on me after a year of ownership, having barely been used, & kept behind glass. You just never know.
@@ddc2957 Actually its better because the blu-ray comes with the special features, while the 4k only includes the movie. So its a great option. I do agree though that it would be cheaper if it comes only with one disc. But I'm one of those who enjoys the bonus features along with the movie.
Technically, yes, the resolution is increased. However, it does not mean the image is automatically "better." 1080P still can look remarkable and often does.
Yes, this is so true. I've started collecting Blu Rays recently. Trying to convert my collection. Which is over 1000 DVDs over to Blu Ray. And Blu Ray looks amazing. I'm not even comparing DVD here. Just going from watching a streaming service or DVD, to Blu Ray. The quality is amazing. So I was wondering if it was worth getting 4K Disk if Blu Ray already looks so good. I've been watching on a 70" inch 4K TV. And I swear regular Blu Ray looks just as good as 4K on a Streaming Service. So I think I will just stick with regular Blu Ray as it is slightly cheaper, and honestly looks just as good. I think the reason it looks just as good even though it is only 1080p is because a format like Blu Ray. Is effectively lossless. Like a CD, or a FLAC. But I am not sure. I would need to do more research on something like that.
@@ROBLOX-1gv7ej2j The reason it can look worse on 1080p is because of how little the pixel count is on a 1080p display compared to a 4k one. 1080p can look not so great on a 720p display, because of the same thing as before, less pixels. So you don't get to see the full proper resolution of the content you are viewing. It can often times look pixelated watching higher res stuff on a lower res display. And if you do it the opposite way, look at lower res stuff on a higher resolution display it can look blurry. Cause it is stretching the picture to fit that screen and it can look very not good. Try playing a PS3 on a 4k TV. Not a great viewing experience, at least at a distance of under 10 feet. I hope this makes sense. I was also personally saying when watching Blu Ray and 4k on a 4k display there is not a huge difference in the picture, to me at least. If you get close to the display however you can notice a big difference. But viewing a show from the couch there is hardly any difference in my eyes. Also Blu Ray and 4K look so much better than any streaming service. Especially for older shows with lots of film grain. Streaming services can not handle film grain, it can look very bad most of the time. Kay, that's all. If you have anymore questions I will try to answer them.
I've recently upgraded to 4K from 2K and there are marginal improvements. The biggest difference is my upgrade to Atmos. The sound really fills the room.
@@redrock425 You cannot really compare it like this with a double upgrade as the A80J is an OLED TV … the step up from my old LCD 4K UHD Sony to my new Sony A90J alone was an amazing leap …
@@redrock425 On the A80J you should not see that much of a difference as it upscales BluRays … on my A90J BluRay vs UHD difference is minimal … as it is a brilliant upscaler …
Saving Private Ryan was in DTS MA because that was the standard audio format then (it's not about disc space). Just as h.265 video encoding was introduced for UHD, 3D audio (Atmos, DTS:X) was also introduced. With included new blu-ray versions, you will see Atmos tracks on blu-ray now.
@@JeffRauseo The blu-ray specs came out years before Dolby Atmos was introduced. First theatrical movie with Atmos was Brave: 2012 (and Transformers, Age of Extinction was first BD in 2014). Also, home Atmos encoding tends to add locational meta-data on top of a Dolby Digital+ or True-HD 7.1 bed (so doesn't necessarily add a lot of extra disc space)
@@JeffRauseo BD movies are still being released in 5.1 (as opposed to 7.1) because there is still a large catalogue of movies that haven't been mixed in Atmos or DTS:X. Again, Atmos adds positional meta-data that doesn't add as much disc space as the bed of encoded audio channels (which for home media is 7.1 sound). What adds the most disc space for a movie is video (this is true for 8-bit h.264 1080P BDs and 10/12-bit h.265 4K BDs).
@@JeffRauseo Atmos does NOT take up more space; the difference is added metadata, that helps the decoder to place the sounds correctly, but it doesn't require extra disc space! Same goes for other 3D sound formats! NO added disc space, unless they have remastered the track and maybe added some effects...
Maybe I'm just content, but i just don't care about trying to get the "latest" thing. I'm a collector with over 2000 BD's. I do tend to upgrade titles when they get mint reissues and collector's editions, but those are sensible upgrades and only every so often. Blu-Ray does everything I want it to without the "benefit" of the newer format. I'm old school either way, I don't care about "lifelike", just give me what looks like cinema, like the days I spent going to my local cineplex when we didn't even have digital projection or Atmos. Blu-ray does that just fine for me. Now doesn't mean I'm blind to poor quality. I've run into shit looking and sounding releases, and I do scrutinize within the Blu-ray confines. I hate egregious DNR and edge enhancement. At the end of the day, i just reached a point where "it's good enough". I can spend my money on other things like life experiences like traveling vacations, or updating my house. I can still relish in my love for cinema without falling into that format technology trap. A few years from now, 8k will come out in bloom and people will turn their nose up at 4k next. To hell with all that. Do you love stories told with visuals, or do you love electronic devices???
I don't double dip as much as I used to because HDR is the main upgrade and I haven't figured out a good way to calibrate it. And the discs are still more expensive.
On most displays, the difference between 4K and 2K Blu Ray is virtually imperceptible. Even as a physical media enthusiast, I really have to be looking for differences instead of just sitting back and enjoying the movie I’m watching. I can’t say that it’s worth it for the vast majority of people.
@@emeryththeman Yeah. When the price is right, I’ll buy a new 4K myself, but I have hundreds of Blu rays and there’s no way in hell I’m upgrading all of those to 4K like I did with my DVD collection.
@@raphaeldelaghetto85 People who care enough about sound/image quality to buy 4k discs. also care about having a dobly atmos system or at least surround. Lol.
Very well done! You explained things very well that most could understand. As a projector guy I have minor problems with HDR. Some forums have been a big help on settings..
In short for me, if I already own a blu-ray copy and it's a title I love then I'll upgrade. If I only own the dvd, then I could go either or depending on the title.
Great, straight to the point video. Just bought my first 4K UHD player today. Going to be a bit of a wait for it to arrive so went down a rabbit hole of 4K disc reviews so I have something to watch when it arrives sometime next week. Just subbed your channel.
@@UltimateGamR honestly not always but occasionally I'll switch from watching a 4K movie and then switch to a Blu-ray and the difference becomes more noticeable . It depends on the movie. Sometimes I'll watch a 4K movie and because my eyes have adjusted to the resolution , it's not something I notice much. But then I switch between 4K and BR and it's more obvious. I was watching The Raid on Blu-ray recently straight after watching Dredd 4K and that was noticeable. Everything was sharper and the colours really stood out in Dredd, though The Raid just looked softer from the lower resolution and it looked dated. In fairness The Raid isn't a colourful movie but the details on Blu-ray were just not there. I also watched Heat in 4K recently and except that it looked darker, it didn't stand out much from what I remember having seen it on other formats. So far the best movie that really sold me on 4K BR was Black Hawk Down. There were times I watched that movie and I was blown away by how good that looked. The sharpness, the colour contrasts from the HDR just blew me away in a way no standard BR could. So I'd say its worth it for the upgrade but it also comes down to the movie itself and how well it is transferred to 4K. I find myself always choosing 4K discs over BR if I have the option. BR is still fine though.
@@BadBeardDude Yeah I know exactly what you mean about your eyes getting used to the picture as that's happened to me. What you've said makes a lot of sense though so thanks for getting back to me I really appreciate it. I've got a PS5 which has a built in 4k blu ray player so was thinking of buying my favourite movies in 4k but wasn't sure if it was worth it as they aren't cheap but I will definitely buy a few movies like King Kong and Jurassic Park etc in 4k. Thanks again mate.
As an invested 4k home cinema guy I’d just say to really enjoy all of the benefits 4k needs a certain level of investment , time and planning is needed . Buy the best flat screen 4k tv you can afford but pay attention to the size of the tv vrs seating position / distance - buy a very good 4k DVD player , buy a Good 5.1 speaker system with a good AV receiver and find a way to install at least 2 actual atmos height ceiling speakers . Then you’ll get the full enjoyment of going to 4k dvds . DTs-x sounds great but Dolby Atmos is another level. Hacksaw Ridge on blue ray is one I know has atmos encoded but it does gripe me slightly that a lot of 4k movies ( mostly Sony affiliates) are only DTs-x .
@@supergrissi dts-x as far as I’m aware doesn’t support the use of height / ceiling speakers 🔊 where as Atmos is designed specifically for that function- therefore it’s inferior in that it’s using the 5.1 set up to try and create the elevated sounds - with Atmos you must have the speaker elements linked to a AV receiver so height sound is dedicated to those speakers. From someone who has a 5.2.2 Atmos set up using full Monitor Audio products I can honestly say dts-x is not as good as Atmos .
This is just the video I needed to say - explained everything great for me. Just getting my first 4k 55 inch tv and wondering what the differences are between the different formats, and this has helped a lot. Thanks!
And I just started collecting 4K ultra HD after my Blu-ray disc started collecting dust and wearing out my friend. Your advice is very much helpful to me. I’m learning new things by watching your videos. Thank you for the advice. Keep
Of a very recent 4K purchase of mine of 'The Godfather: Coda' I actually prefer the grain and color structure of the previous Bluray of 'The Godfather: Part III' (and the previous edit). The new one didn't amaze or impress me.
In my experience of collecting DVD Bluray & 4k Bluray the main factors are the Transfer Quality of the Discs and your Equipment...ie TV, Disc Player, & Audio Set-up..... When 4k 1st dropped studio's were offering 4k Disc with Bluray Disc and DVD discs all in 1 package so you were completely covered incase you hadn't upgraded to a 4k Bluray player which was substantial more costly than standard Bluray player (& still is) or purchased a top end 4K TV to get full advantage of the Technology as Plasma was Dying and OLED was just around the corner for consumers
For movies, images don't need to "pop". In fact, they would rather not "pop". Because popping in movies tend to look superficial and put-on, dare I say "digital".
Great video! The only thing stopping me from upgrading to 4K is that I have a lot of standard DVDS that were never released on bluray or 4K and they look terrible on a 4K or Ultra HD TV.
@@Ben-tt3cg Hi Ben👍 I bought a Samsung ultra hd tv and some of my early DVDs were very motion blurry. I called out a tech guy after i tried all the settings and he said it was to be expected with the difference in picture. Just have to hope these DVDs get upgraded in the future.
@@Ben-tt3cg No it definitely does not look better it looks worse … on my 83” A90J plenty of DVDs have become unwatchable as the picture is tiny with black frame all around … or blown up to full screen you only see a pixelated something. An it does an amazing upscaling work … but a lot of old DVD’s have an awful quality, especially old rare ones …
I have invested in every format so far including hd dvd, blu ray is my final format as it is more than good enough. I find many 4k movies to be too dark for my liking. Unless you have a top of the line tv that's at least 75 inches you are not going to notice much of a difference. New formats are mainly introduced to get consumers to re- purchase movies that they already own, it's called planned obsolescence. You are also at the mercy of the transfer that the studios do it doesn't matter what the format is a bad transfer is not going to look good. A regular bluray with a good transfer will look better that a 4k with a bad transfer. And the human eye can only see so much detail anyways. No 4k for me I pretty much stopped purchasing movies anyways they take up alot of room you may watch them once or twice and then they just sit there collecting dust. Streaming is the future I've already embraced it. Rant over
Yeah even I’m only planning on collecting my absolute favourites- like a top 10 or 25 that I KNOW I’ll watch at least once every other year till I’m gone. Including a few that made the biggest impacts to me personally. For everything else, it’ll be streaming.
One thing you didn’t mention, which I feel is important to point out, is the equipment needed. Besides the 4K disc player and TV, you also need to replace your HDMI cables. If you don’t, your expensive system and discs won’t perform as they should.
Some blurays are soo good it almost looks like a 4k depending on your player also ,I have Panasonic 820 and it up-convert the bluray to almost 4k ,do you have any news on the 4k release of heat yet ??
Thanks for this informative video. It's true what you say about how some people don't see the difference and think it's a waste of money for the upgrade. Thing is I do notice it so I get satisfaction with the higher quality where my friends thinks I'm wasting money.
@@chadster225 it depends on what you want man. If sound isn't important to you then probably not. I recently installed ceiling speakers for atmos. For me, it adds a lot to the immersion during certain scenes. It has to be mixed properly for atmos though. War movies sound great with bullets flying around you and planes going over your head. With Covid continuing as it is, the movie theater is dying. So I figured I might as well bring it to my house. I have no regrets. I bought the speakers on Amazon. Klipsch 5650 II. I also have an LG oled which looks amazing with proper use of HDR.
I've got a mix of blu-rays and 4K. Currently 40 4K and another 4 on the way. UK based, buy used or in the sales, there are some good buys out there, be picky 😉
Great info! My qualitative experience has been: DVD: hit and miss on video and sound, often soft and harsh, respectively. Can be a hard watch on a large screen (projector, or even large panel). BD: generally solid imagery and audio. Rarely have any complaints on a good system. 4k: HDR is a boost to video, resolution less so (even on a very large screen) but can occasionally “wow”. Audio is just more natural and immersive. Sound is less flashy and feels more like an immersive, high-impact, but natural experience. This could be modern mixing, atmos or less compression…bit I’ve stopped noticing problems with the mix and started enjoying the movie more
If I see a movie that I only kinda want, not a high priority, I’ll just buy the standard dvd, but if it’s one I loved, plan to watch again and again, I’ll buy the blu ray/4K
I have owned both formats, and settled on regular Bluray. On my 55" 4K Samsung QLED. There is NO VISIBLE DIFFERENCE and NOT WORTH the extra spend on media.
There is a huge difference with HDR. I've gone from a Samsung LED to a Sony OLED, a very noticeable upgrade. Viewing distance is key too. If we're watching a good 4K film the sofa gets pulled up to 8ft away.
Thanks for this man. I’m still rocking an old sony blu ray player and 1080p plasma tv lmao. Have started to pick up a few disks on sale to replace dvds, specifically those that have 4k+blu ray, so i can enjoy either or when I replace my player. Great video btw, concise and clear
Good Video! Even now, 3 years after this video I am still sticking to Blu Ray. I can easily tell the difference between DVD and a standard Blu Ray at the "proper viewing distance" but can't really tell a difference between 1080p and 4K most of the time. Many things I like I don't think will ever get a 4k release, like Star Trek TNG, Lost, etc. Heck, many other old titles I can only get on DVD like Mash (TV Series). Between the increased cost and increased storage needs for 4k, for now, I'll just stick with Blu Ray when I can get it.
4k is 4,096 x anything. There are varying heights for footage. Things only get letterboxed to a fixed 16:9 frame when fed to the final video encoding process.
Good video. I have collected (some) VHS tapes, then went crazy with DVD and finally upgraded almost all my movies to Blu-Ray and that is where I am stopping. I don't own a 4K TV (yet), still rocking a 2008 Panasonic plasma (yes it helps to heat my house! ha ha) picture quality still great for me with Blu-Ray1080p and DTS sound. I also rip all my Blu-ray discs and compress them down a bit to get a smaller file size - my eyes can't tell the difference!
I'll stick with my blurays and DVDs. I can't tell the difference between 4k and Blu-ray and can't see the point in "upgrading" to 4k. Plus it's way too expensive.
Larger disc size have nothing to do with the audio. In the beginning atmos was on bluray discs, but due to sales strategy it became exclusive to uhd discs
For me personally, it really depends on the movie. If it has a 3D theater release, I’ll get the 3D Blu-ray. If not, I’ll look for it on 4K first, then Blu-ray if it’s not there. Last resort is dvd 📀. Will avoid that if possible.
@@Loki-sk7bi You get a projector and glasses (DLP Viewsonic PX701HD for example). For me, 1080p is still fantastic quality and I wouldn't change the 3D experience for more pixels any day soon. Gl :)
I loved 3D and my Samsung 55" TV performed wonderfully for 10 yrs, until the power module failed. I then searched for several frustrating months until I found a "hole in the wall" shop that could fix it (none of the "big boys" would even return my calls for service). The repairs cost $500 and lasted only a year before failing again. I decided not to fall further down the rabbit hole and sadly bid farewell to the 3D format. I switched to OLED, and the amazing quality of 4K pictures has eased somewhat the pain of losing my beloved 3D. All things must pass, I guess.
I’m still with my dvd and Blu Rays. Even though a have some 4K. DVD are not bad, they good. Blu Rays is Great . I grew in the VHS era. And that was not all that good. But we enjoyed the films. I find is sad how some people want to throw away their DVDs, Blu rays, just because of 4K.
I honestly don't see much of a difference. Blu-ray seems to be lighter but 4K is a bit sharper and the color has more detail. But blurays still look awesome. So I don't see much of a reason for everyone to switch over.
@@daniboy4153 between the movies I've tested bluray to 4K the clarity looks to be about exactly the same but the 4K color is a lot darker. So I honestly don't really see the hype with 4K. When I watch any of the films I have with 4K I usually watch the Blu-ray version instead. But I do watch the full-length film on 4K as well just to see the differences. In a film like Alien there's a ginormous difference on the 4K you can't see anything because the film is so dark anyways but on the Blu-ray you can see everything. Like when Kane goes down the shaft where all the eggs are you can see the whole map painting and how big the room really is and the eggs where is on 4K you can just see that little bit of light where he is and what's directly around him.
I have finally learned something here . I have had terrible experience with 4k . I even sent my 4k version of "The Ten Commandmente" back to the seller because the colors were so bad and dark . But I NOW believe that it is my DVD player ! I got it second-hand and it was supposed to play 4k disc's . I thought that if my DVD player did not play 4k's it wouldn't play at ALL . But it did play the 4k but the quality is terrible . But I have been reading and listening to reviews about 4k's and their supposed to be so much better . But on my DVD player the colors are faded and the picture is dark, dark, dark . I am going to take a chance and buy another DVD player . Thank you so much for all of this information . It was very much appreciation . Bob "Ziggy" Anderson
I look for the quality of how the film was made, scripted and acted WAY before I look at the various types of DVD which may be available. There are a lot of crappy movies out there these days in the best of HD DVD available. The human eye can see only so much, but the intelligence in how a film was made is really where the difference lies. And some of the best movies are in Black and White, a medium in which they were artistically best filmed.
I'm happy with Blu-Rays and not willing to spend a lot of money to replace my main system which includes a very loved Panasonic plasma TV, an Oppo universal disc player, yes for SACD's too, a Cambridge AV receiver, GoldenEar all around and an SVS sub. Thanks for a very informative video even if almost a year later.
Xbox one X isn’t bad. If you have a Dolby vision TV then it would be good to get a separate player. Otherwise it may not make much of a difference. Not much wear and tear really
@@CrashCarson14 so I just brought a 4K hdr 2160 tv. I believe it has Dolby vision/sound but I use the Xbox s (upgraded). are you suggesting/saying a separate 4K player would be better?
@@garyAjames the Xbox isn’t bad and won’t be be but a stand-alone player would be “easier” and have better options/settings geared for movies and audio. What I did is found a used X800 player for $85 on my local FB. I needed that 2nd HDMI out port for audio to my receiver. I wouldn’t pay much more for a player personally.
@@CrashCarson14 I'll check out that x800 player you mentioned. I live in a apartment and can't really blast the sound. the best I have is a single bose TV soudbar. thanks for the response and info
I see a lot of complaints about HDR. If you plan on watching HDR and UHDs, it's important not to just buy a 4K TV because it says 4K and is $300. You need proper local dimming or OLED for HDR to work the way it is intended and that's the major difference between $300 4K TVs and ones that are over $1000. Yes, HDR does make scenes dark but keep in mind, it's trying to mirror what your actual eyes would see. If it's dark outside, shouldn't it look dark? At the same time, if it's a bright scene, it should be super bright. Anyway, spend the extra dough to get proper HDR. It's worth it.
The problem I have is that I have a Samsung qn90a I’m not sure if you’re familiar but it is a 1500+ dollar tv that hits up to 2000 nits of brightness and in sdr it’s fantastic, everything pops but in hdr even in daytime scenes it’s unrealistically dark even with brightness settings maxed out and I don’t know if it’s intended or not or if I’m just used to overblown images but it just looks bad to me even in a dark room. Idk maybe if I forced myself to watch it exclusively for a while I would get used to it but it sure is difficult.
I go by the quality of the movie first. 8/10, 9/10, 10/10 movies and if the disc has been scanned at native 4K. For films that I think are just good I go with regular Blu Ray. However almost all animated movies I go with Blu ray, with the only exception being 'Into the Spiderverse' as the 4K copy is phenomenal. 4K's are very expensive so regular Blu Rays is big savings.
Great vid! I was really impressed by psycho, maybe because something so old comes to life in a new realistic way. Also the sound on Harry Potter was amazing.
I agree that not all 4k movies are done equally. I didn't like the Batman 1989 movie on it. The Blue hue took away the minimalist lighting that it originally had. For that particular movie, I'm sticking with the Blu Ray. Blu Ray also had that same problem. I bought the Saw Collection on Blu Ray and I was disappointed with at the image noise and grainy picture it had in some of the movies. To mean, I felt that it was just a straight from DVD transfer. No HDR was used, even the original DVD's I still have look way better than the ones on Blu Ray.
It should be said that you need a decent tv if you want to get into 4K blu rays otherwise you'll be questioning what all of the hype is about. When I first got a 4K BluRay player, I already had an LG 50" 4K TV that was given to me free from my service provider for a 2 year commitment. I bought a bunch of highly recommended discs and was ready to be wowed! I was so disappointed. There was virtually no visually significant difference between the BluRay and 4K. I then sold off the 4Ks and kept the Blurays. Fast forward to about a year ago and I'm looking to upgrade to a bigger TV for my living room. I learned more about the HDR formats, wide color gamut (WCG) and contrast ratios. I didn't know that even though my 50" claimed to have HDR, there is just no comparison to the Sony 900H that I ended up buying. I now see what the fuss is about! Long story short... make sure your tv is up to snuff. I'm now rebuying all of those 4K discs.
@P T Agreed. But like the visual improvements, you'd need the audio equipment to realize those benefits. Most people (at least everyone I know) are blissfully unaware of those gains and are therefore content with their 5.1, basic soundbar, or TV speakers. Come to think of it, I don't think I've met anyone else that buys physical media (outside of the people I buy used discs from)...I think I need some new friends lol.
So I’m thinking about getting a 4K ultra HD player for my Samsung 4K TV that I bought a year and a half ago. But from everything I’ve seen online and read about the 4K Movies that you can buy looked much darker than the Blu-ray movies. It seems to be a major turn off for a lot of people can you explain this please and also can you tell me what the Fixies? Is there a setting on the TV or what do I do to make the movies brighter if I buy one of these players?
I just bought a Sony UBP-X700 last week during the Boxing Week sales. I like it quite a bit so far plus it does upscaling (though I realize this is not as good as native 4K content). I only have one Ultra HD movie in my entire collection right now, Jigsaw. Usually I find 4K discs are much more expensive than 1080p Blu-rays. If it's only a few dollars more, I might be inclined to go 4K movies for future purchases, especially since I have a 75 inch TV with HDR10 and HDR10+ (and HLG if that counts). I just have a lower-end 2 channel soundbar with subwoofer but this is still way better than the built in speakers on the TV. I still have quite a few DVD's in my collection but won't upgrade from those unless I really like the movie. I've heard of people having freezing issues with various 100GB 4K discs (usually at the same parts of the movie), though I don't know how widespread that issue is. Might have to do with layer changes. Appreciate the unbiased advice later in your video!
Wait 6 months to a year after a movie's release on 4K discs and buy 4K discs Used-Like New or Used-Very Good on Amazon. You get surprisingly cheap bargains on 4K movies that way, sometimes cheaper than buying a 1080p movie new.
@P T Sorry to hear that. So far so good with my X700 one and a half years later although I don't use it a lot. Mostly I just play DVD and 1080p Blu-Ray movies.
I went through the whole upgrade thing a few years ago with my favorite movies upgrading from DVD to Blu Ray and that was a big difference. I don't see as big of a benefit making the jump from Blu Ray to 4K. Is 4K better than Blu Ray? Well of course it is and for any new movies that come out that I love and want to add to my collection I will get the movie in 4K. Some of my Blu Rays are not the best transfer so if reviews on a 4K version of the same movie were great I would consider an upgrade in that case but for most of my Blu Rays I am quite satisfied with the quality of the video and audio. I think based on the home theater system most people have they will be fine with Blu Ray video and sound. I am not getting free movies sent to me so my budget is limited on what I have to spend on adding to my collection. I do love having the physical media though. Streaming quality at present just can't match what you get from a source disk and for a collector you get enjoyment just looking through your collection at times, looking at the artwork on the case which brings back memories of the movie.
If you have an OLED & a high end 4K blu ray player , then it’s a pretty big upgrade , it’s more immersive , yes the quality of blu rays are good but if there’s a 4K equivalent, it’s best to get that one
I have a massive movie collection and have previously replaced all my dvds with blu rays because the difference was so apparent. But I seriously cannot see any meaningful difference in quality from blu ray to 4k. At that point you are talking about detail that you could only notice on a massive screen if you paused and got up real close to examine the pixels. And I personally am not a fan of the HDR coloring. I think it looks artificial and makes movie look very uncinematic.
I only ever owned 3 blu-rays out of 300 dvds. I sold that off & made the jump to 4k on my favorite franchises & that's it. I'm planning on buying blu-rays now for certain films that don't have a 4k release yet.
I'm happy with whatever my streaming service provides me these days. I've been around for too long and have spent a fortune upgrading from, vinyl to tape, to CD. I always wanted to enjoy either music or video at the best quality within monetary reason, but I've stopped collecting all media. That's just me. Next thing will be 8K then 16K, yada, yada, yada. Now I'm not putting anyone down who wants to collect physical media, it's just not for me anymore.
Great subject! I have a core range of movies that I have on 4K or want on 4K (Jaws, joker, the nolan film’s, the shining etc, and hopefully one day my all time favourite, the silence of the lambs) But there are some titles that I like but don’t watch a whole lot so always wonder if it’s worth spending £20 on the 4K disc or would I be more then happy dropping £10 on the blu ray
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My rule of thumb is, if I already own a movie on Bluray and it received a quality transfer with good bonus features, I don't worry much about getting a 4k copy (Unless it's one of my favorites). If it's a movie I don't own yet, then I go for the 4k version, if available. The resolution bump definitely makes a difference. But, the biggest leap is having the HDR. You will see details and other things that you never even noticed in your movies, especially if you have a larger display.
Common sense is common.
Great
Question: How does The Goonies & E.T. The Extra Terrestrial look on 4K?
@@TheCosmicStarmen I don't own ET yet. But Goonies looks fantastic and was reviewed quite favorably by most websites I've checked.
@P T You're not necessarily wrong. I'm not as much of a stickler for audio as I am for picture quality. As long as I have my DTS Master Audio or Dolby True HD, I'm a happy camper. But, that's probably because my hearing isn't as good as it could be. HAHA!
Also 4k being region free is a big selling point you can buy a disc from any country and you know it’s going to play on my set up
That's awesome. I didn't know that. So I don't have to worry about region B or region C
@Louis Williams I believe there’s also some 4Ks only available in different countries tho
@@StaticBlaster no all 4ks are region free unlike blu rays which can be region a or b locked
@Louis Williams there are movies that dont get released in every region. Two that comes to mind is ghost in the shell on 4k. It was never released in europe and thankfully 4k is region free. Sadly, I wasn't as fortunate with häxan on bluray. It is region A ONLY and unless I get a region free disc player I am shit out of luck watching häxan in 1080p.
@Louis Williams I live in the UK and managed to pick up the Columbia collection imported from Amazon US while it was on offer. It worked out as £95 after currency conversion and all import/postal fees. And GBP is still fairly weak against USD. I could not even find anywhere to buy that collection in the UK and even when it was available I think it £200. Admittedly its not always worth it, but in that instance importing was definitely the way to go
I collected movies and t.v. shows on VHS for years.
When DVDs became affordable, I switched over and upgraded my VHS collection to DVD. No more rewinding tapes for me... and the picture was better too.
Then Blu-ray's came along and the picture quality went up again. I started out by buying only movies that I didn't already own on DVD... but as time went on, I began the expensive task of upgrading my DVD collection to Blu-ray. That upgrade is still going on.
Then 4K started up... and while the picture quality did go up again, I don't find the difference to be quite as pronounced. Some movies will never look all that good on 4K... or on Blu-ray either.
In the end, I have decided that Blu-ray is good enough for me. If a 4K version of a film comes out that also has the Blu-ray at a reasonable price, I have no problem with that. My xBox One will play 4K discs even though my T.V. is not 4K.
If Blu-ray ever goes away, I think I would probably look more to some sort of streaming alternative... rather than undertake a third massive and expensive platform upgrade. I have more than 6,000 films and television season sets in my collection. It would just be too time-consuming and expensive to do it again.
Blu-ray is good enough for my needs.
All "upgrades" eventually hit the law of diminishing returns. No sense in wasting money if you're happy / satisfied with what you already have.
@@NinjaRunningWild I agree. And it's not just wasting my money either. It's also wasting my time too. I've spent 15+ years trying to upgrade my DVD collection to blu-ray... and that's still ongoing. If I were to start upgrading to 4K now (which I'm genuinely not interested in doing)... I'd be into my mid-to-late 70s before (potentially), I'd be where I am today with blu-ray. 4K, for me anyway, just doesn't make sense. In the end, I'd be upgrading just for the sake of collecting 4K. I'm not sure that's a good enough reason for me.
I'm the same, my only annoyance is that lots of big Blu-ray releases are not Atmos, only dts hdx, which I like, but I would like to be able to compare soundtracks.
No shame in sticking with what you have, but I will point out that of course you're not going to see any difference in watching 4k if you don't have a 4k TV*!
I personally held out on collecting VHS, DVD, Blu-ray since they were all inferior to the quality seen at the movie theater. Recently upgraded from a 1080p VA panel TV to a 4k OLED TV and purchased a 4k UHD player. I have 20/20 vision and I am stunned at the difference! I'm not going to go out and buy every 4k UHD disc, they are just too expensive, but I plan to accumulate over the coming years since I expect streaming services will start to economizing their services at the detriment of their customers.
IMO, where the technology really needs to go now is better color range.
*I'll add that it probably doesn't make sense to have 4k with a small screen.
I own thousands of blu rays and I feel like the jump from blu to 4K isn’t as dramatic as the jump from dvd to blu was. There’s also no way I’m updating all of those blu rays I own to 4K for marginal improvement for some of them.
Only a fraction of Blurays are released on 4K anyways. It's totally worth it for some movies though for sure.
It’s not unless you have a very big TV and unless you get really close to the TV if you do or have either of the two then it’s a big jump
Your 100% right I recently upgraded my 1080p plasma to a 4k oled and don't get me wrong it is night and day when it comes to sport and nature documentaries. But movies it's nothing like the jump from dvd to blu ray on some 4k I can't notice a difference.. a lot of 4k TH-camrs must have the most sensitive eyes on the planet.. dune is amazing.but when it comes to the enjoyment of movies it's negligible..I would just upgrading to a oled tv
@@meyeame8956 what movies do you think, so far I have Dune, Pulp fiction, Aladdin, Dark knight trilogy, stand by me, the matrix and the revenant.
@@theninjararar Do you have a 4k player that upscales old blu rays to 4K? They look incredible, nearly just as good as 4K UHD discs.
Im happy with Blu-Ray. The main reason being that the cost to upgrade would be way to much for what I can afford.
It’s coming down all the time though. Hang in there - & 1080s are still a high quality format anyway.
I'm definitely planning on upgrading, but I'll wait until it becomes a higher priority because of (further?) deterioration of my old 1080p tv. Already now, 4k tv's are the same price as, or even cheaper than, a 1080p tv of the same size. So basically, the future may make the decision for you! I'm buying 4k discs to "future-proof" myself.
Whatever you can afford is the BEST format for you!
@@ddc2957 You just haven't watched Planet Earth II in 4K and HDR.
Best TV and player to watch 4K Blue rays on?
correct me if I'm wrong but to my eye, we've hit a threshold for movie quality. I've seen some 4k movies before and I'm always blown away by how great it looks. But I usually have a similar reaction to 1080, it still looks amazing. i cant even imagine anything greater than 4k and by then it probably would look artificial.
Maybe this is just for newer, bigger, 4k TV’s.
It really depends on a couple of factors. Screen size, screen brightness, how far are you sit from your TV, how old the movie and your audio solution. In my living room I have a 2.1 soundbar I'm 15 ft away from my TV and it's a 65" so really the only benefit I get from 4K is HDR because my TV gets plenty bright enough. In my dedicated theater room I have a 5.1.2 klipsch reference speakers connected to an AV receiver with a 110" projector screen and a 4k HDR projector. For my living room it's had to tell the difference in my theater room 4k HDR is night and day. When you blow a picture of that big one of the main things you notice on a 1080p imagine is color banding with HDR it's basically gone and the Atmos DTS-X soundtracks are amazing.
@@waterzipper Don't forget it also depends on what you're looking at. Nature images might not show off the sharpness of the image, although the color could definitely make a difference. Change to an urban scene and then you begin to notice. There are many factors at play here, and it's better to have it and see it, than not have it and not know what you're missing. Or you just don't care and notice image fidelity. Many are like this so it's up to your tolerance level.
There is also 8k
I’ve heard 8k is like the maximum resolution the eyes can see and anything above that looks the same
My eyes are still adjusted to VHS 📼 😆
I will always have a place in my heart for VHS! 😃
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Still loads of porn on VHS 😂😂😂😂
It’s Aesthetic!
Felt the same way. Got my eyeglasses and was watching Mad Max Fury Road on BluRay. Then I was like "oh I see what they mean." With glasses I can see grains of sand.
So I guess without glasses my worldview is HDR VHS vision.
I just started going into 4k as of today. I got a 4k TV, Ultra HD blu ray player, and started my collection with Top Gun: Maverick, Harry Potter Eight Film Collection, and Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back. I didn't realize there was HDR and SDR, but I was lucky enough to get a TV with HDR. I watched Harry Potter & The Chamber Of Secrets for the first demonstration of my TV and player, and I'm blown away at the quality of 4k. Makes watching all my favorite movies even more awesome!!! Very informative video and I subscribed. Thank you for sharing your insight!!!
I've tried watching 3 highly rated 4K discs back-to-back with their Blu-ray counterparts on my 65" 4K OLED TV and I could barely notice any difference even when I was seriously trying to find the difference. Furthermore, on 2 of the 3, I actually felt that I was slightly liking the look of the Blu-ray more than the 4K disc as the 4K image looked a little bit more artificial to me.
The upscaling on your TV or player can make a big difference. I agree with you that the picture quality difference is minimal.
4k looks dark and fake to me.
@@ILoveTheAllCreator I think some films are looking just too much like film sets now, especially Marvel.
@@MunKeeButt67 Exactly, the over usage of green screens is throwing the movie off. The lighting is always the give away. That’s why I prefer 50s-00s films the best 🙌
@@ILoveTheAllCreator too many films now as well, as a kid in 70s, a film could be in a 1 screen cinema for 3 months, and the bigger cinemas had 3 screens. And they only came out on projector reel. There was more of an element of magic with the shortage of content. Now they squirt films out hundreds a month. Quantity over quality.
Upgrading from SD to HD makes a world of difference on screens as small as 32", but the upgrade from HD to UHD is rather underwhelming on my 49" display from a normal viewing distance. I also have a 1080p projector with a screen of about 80" and I'm very happy with regular old HD even at that size.
yup same. 1080p Epson shooting a 100 inch image that i sit maybe 7.5 to 9 feet back from. Looks just as good as the local cinema. Only thing that beats it visual and audio wise is imax.
Totally agree
My still upgrading my movies from DVD to Blu Ray,I still have a long way to go,as far as 4k goes not there yet I'm happy with my blu- rays,but Im thankful for this channel and others like it I have learned alot over a year span. Thank you again for the information.let's watch some movies!!!!!
I kinda skipped a generation I didn’t buy much dvds my family had a lot of vhs tapes and when I got my ps3 I started buying blu rays on my own but it would be nice to upgrade one day
@@GringoXalapeno The nice thing about DVDs, particularly the earlier prints, is that they usually come with special features.
I only have 10 or 20 4k blurays and still collectiing blurays and upgrading from dvds aswell all me dvds have been replaced with blurays now but still alot of movies I'd like and 4k is ok if you have a very expensive TV as I only have a samsung Tu8000 4k TV and the 4k discs look dark and hdr is weak so not worth it unless have a good TV I learnt the hard way after paying lots for a 4k player and my first 4k movie and was quite disappointed tbh yes the resolution is amazing just not bright and colourful like blurays in my opinion and I agree the going for DVD to blu ray was I massive upgrade but from bluray to 4k not so much as now mostb4k TV's have amazing upscaleing built in and even cheap ones like my TV. Ps I have watched a 4k disc on a LG oled with amazing hdr and yes is grate but unless you have oled or a very expensive other brand led it not worth it's it at all I regret buying a 4k player now lol hope this helps
The DCPs (Digital Cinema Package) for most movies delivered to theaters are between 150 GB and 300 GB for a 4K movie. The way they are encoded makes it possible to play the same DCP in 2K if your theater doesn't have a 4K projector.
(the image is encoded using 12 bits per color JPEG2000 for the picture and each frame is encoded as a separate picture instead of using frame interpolation with key frames like we have in home formats such as H264 and H265/HEVC, sound is Atmos or 24bit/48KHz uncompressed PCM).
If the film is easy to compress like 2D animation, it can be less than that. I remember a projectionist mentioning that he received a 60 GB DCP once.
Most CGI heavy movies are released in theaters only in 2K.
All 3D movies are projected only in 2K, as the digital cinema norms cannot handle 4K and 3D at the same time (as you need twice the framerate in 3D, because of 24 fps for each eye).
One of the ways used for reducing the size of the files for Blu-rays (both HD or 4K) is chroma subsampling. A DCP, 2K or 4K, will always be in 4:4:4 but a 1080p Blu-ray will always be encoded in 4:2:2 or 4:2:0, and a 4K one in 4:2:0. This is the other reason why, additionally to the bigger color space / HDR, the image of a 4K Blu-ray can look sharper than a 1080p Blu-ray of the same movie, even if the movie only has a 2K master.
Wow! I’m impressed by your knowledge of the subject. It’s way over my head.
I just upgraded to 4k. Its worth every penny. Ive heard alot of people say its not worth it to them but everything is so much more lifelike, im sold. Im also an audio guy so having the better soundtrack was selling point enough for me even before i saw the difference between hd and 4k video
started watching your stuff since i got my PS5. Already started my 4k movie collection. Great videos my dude
Which movies?
@@Lord_Medus So far:
Alien, 5th element, ghost in the shell (original), gladiator, interstellar, prince of darkness,psycho, the quick and the dead,scott pilgrim, the shining, speed, into the spiderverse, they live, unforgiven, and war of the worlds. :)
Seating distance and screen size is important to getting a benefit from 4k.
@Louis Williams never seen 4k broadcast. Thought it only happened in very limited localities.
Louis Williams watching a physycal 4k disc with hdr in an oled tv makes a great different compared to bluray. Benefits from 4k aren’t such great at streaming or a non oled tv
Absolutely! Screen size matters!
Resolution-wise, absolutely, screen size makes a difference. However, the benefits of HDR can be seen even on a smaller screen.
@Louis Williams Would a Blu Ray movie played on a 4k player look better vs it played on a Blu Ray Player?
Some early 4K discs need to be redone like T2, the first 3 bourne movies, Gremlins, Goodfellas!!
Same thing happened with blurays when they were first released. Plenty of low bitrate low quality transfer discs back then, and there are still some bad one being put out.
true the first 3 B.M on 4k looks so horrible even the bluray looks better
T2 yes
T2 will probably never be redone. James Cameron is really controlling over transfers of his films and none are released without his oversight. And sadly he just prefers his films not to look their age, no matter the cost. He isn’t even shy of simply George Lucasing his movies with new transfers.
Josh Allen no that disc came out about 4 years ago
Streaming today is only half the movies, because streaming for got the audio. Audio is SO compressed that you watch a movie and you have to dial up the volumes just to hear the movie you’re watching. Sometimes the volume is so Low to hear that you can’t hear anything at modest to medium volumes.
I'm glad you mentioned how some people may not like the HDR or film grian reduction, it's important to mention for people who aren't sure what to buy I'd say get the 4k combo, most 4k films I've seen usually have the standard blu ray disc as well and digital codes so if anything the 4k combo is the way to go. I've also noticed expired digital codes in films at Walmart for the films priced at 14.99 and when I tried to redeem them they still worked.
I was gifted a few months ago with a only one year old 50 inch Samsung 4K tv. I bought a 4K player soon after. Started buying 4K blu-rays and they are amazing. That being said, I still own some regular blu-rays and will still purchase both as one thing I also like about the 4K player is it also seems to make regular blu-ray discs look even better.
My family and I never upgraded to Blu-Ray. We simply stuck with DVD as we never really upgraded our TV sets. Our biggest set is 42 inches and my family actually lowered the refresh rate on it as they thought it was to realistic.
What's wrong with being realistic?
@@LennyQUMFIF Something about a Soap Opera Effect.
interesting
Me too, dvs with 42" Plasma!
Once you try realistic for a few movies you won't want to go back to 24fps.
I’ll stick with Blu Ray. You have to get a new disc, a new player and a new Tv.
I do get what you mean about the sound on a Disney movie.
And a new AV Receiver if you want Atmos etc.
Don't forget about the new AV1 codec. It supposedly has superior compression to H.265, but since it's brand new it's only supported on the newest pc/home theater products.
I only ever buy 4k if:
1. I don't already own the movie or show on any previous format
2. The item at the time of purchase is 20 dollars or less
3. The price of the 4k is no more than 5 dollars of the blu ray version
Honestly the difference in visual and audio quality isn't that large to justify breaking any of these rules
Yeah my price point would be 30 and under otherwise I’ll go blu ray or dvd if the movie doesn’t have a release on higher format
Wait, so 4K isn't a scam?! Why do so many people feel the need to say so on my videos about 4K 😅 Great video pal
Hey I know you!
Because 4K is a scam. Hdr is good but there simply isn't enough content to justify it.
@@aussieexpat well there’s enough content but looking in modern cgi heavy movies aren’t as good older films shot on location it
@@GringoXalapeno perhaps but the studios don't give a crap about how the hdr looks on that older content.
@@aussieexpat That’s not true though. Just look at any Kubrick film.
HDR also importantly can greatly improve shadow and highlight detail, hence the term high dynamic range.
I have the Sony x700 4k player and it has great upscale!!
I say unless the 4k disc is a significant upgrade, stick with your bluray disc.
Got the same one I love it.
I’m trying to get one used
Just annoying, that you have to turn on/off dolby vision manually
Also great hdr with dolby vision! There's a scene with Natalie Portman wearing an orange jumpsuit in Annihilation and the color POPS!!
Also the DV on the Midsommar 4k looks astounding!
@@justindmk Agree and if you leave it on when there's no DV on the disc it just adds more video noise
I think normal blu ray is fantastic, there's more content, it's cheaper and a "uncompressed" 1080p stream from a disc is still gonna look great even compared to some 4k streaming imo, plus integrated upscaling is really starting to get good.
While some media definitely benefits greatly from HDR (i just finished arcane and it was awesome, my first proper HDR experience on my new LG C1), it's not gonna make a giant difference everywhere.
Whats the best 4k player? I've used Sony and had issues.
How did you watch arcane? I have Netflix and a ps5 and an LGC1. Will I be able to watch it in HDR?
@@layzy24 I watched it on the C1 itself. Don't have to worry about compatibility with HDR or HDMi cables if you just watch it off the Tv's apps. When you start playing it it should confirm Dibly Vision somewhere on the scren and you're off to the races. I
@@steve4321able Sorry man, I use the UBP-X700. Haven't had any issues with it apart from the fact that you have to manually toggle Dobly Vision on and off, which can be annoying.
@@steve4321able Panasonic ub820 or ub9000.
Endgame is only on a 66GB disc, it doesn't even have a 4kDI, it's a 2k movie upscaled up to 4k for the 4k disc
Endgame, the biggest movies in recent years, and they just upscale it like It's nothing lmao.
If there is a lot of CGI that is why. They can't/won't do 4K CGI as the costs are too high because of the extra data.
@@redrock425 CGI sucks.
If it was just the resolution, I probably wouldn’t bother Regular blu-Rays upscaled on my 4K TV look fantastic - even DVDs look great. It’s really the extended color gamut that makes the biggest difference, really gorgeous!
Yes HDR is the game changer. Sadly a lot of 4K TV's won't display it correctly and is maybe why some don't see a need for an upgrade.
Also my dvds looks great. Upscaled by the bluray player??
Thanks for the detailed explanation of the differences between Blu Ray and 4K Blu Ray. Very helpful. And the 3 shot picture showing the difference between 4K, 1080P and 720P images, makes the difference in quality between the 3 formats crystal clear for me as I consider upgrading to a 4K TV.
good video.....since i started watching your channel 6 weeks ago i have added about 120...... 4K movies.....thanks alot...lol.....credit card will never be the same..lol...cheers from Canada and be safe all
I like watching nature videos to test for 4K. Like snow, trees, and especially water.
Great video like always man
another plus of 4K blu-ray discs are that, they also come with the regular blu-ray disc.
It's a great way to build up a 4K movie library while still only owning a 1080p blu-ray player, assuming the 4K disc isn't defective, in which case you'll find out later on when you buy a 4K disc player.
Even though most of us are buying a 4K movie we prob already own on BD, it never hurts to have an extra copy (or two). I have had two 4K discs clap out on me after a year of ownership, having barely been used, & kept behind glass. You just never know.
@@ddc2957 Actually its better because the blu-ray comes with the special features, while the 4k only includes the movie. So its a great option. I do agree though that it would be cheaper if it comes only with one disc. But I'm one of those who enjoys the bonus features along with the movie.
Technically, yes, the resolution is increased. However, it does not mean the image is automatically "better." 1080P still can look remarkable and often does.
Yes, this is so true. I've started collecting Blu Rays recently. Trying to convert my collection. Which is over 1000 DVDs over to Blu Ray. And Blu Ray looks amazing. I'm not even comparing DVD here. Just going from watching a streaming service or DVD, to Blu Ray. The quality is amazing. So I was wondering if it was worth getting 4K Disk if Blu Ray already looks so good. I've been watching on a 70" inch 4K TV. And I swear regular Blu Ray looks just as good as 4K on a Streaming Service. So I think I will just stick with regular Blu Ray as it is slightly cheaper, and honestly looks just as good.
I think the reason it looks just as good even though it is only 1080p is because a format like Blu Ray. Is effectively lossless. Like a CD, or a FLAC. But I am not sure. I would need to do more research on something like that.
@@Group-935Can you explain to me why Or give me details why 4k discs look worse on a 1080p tvs or 1080p monitors than Standard blu ray on it
@@ROBLOX-1gv7ej2j The reason it can look worse on 1080p is because of how little the pixel count is on a 1080p display compared to a 4k one. 1080p can look not so great on a 720p display, because of the same thing as before, less pixels. So you don't get to see the full proper resolution of the content you are viewing. It can often times look pixelated watching higher res stuff on a lower res display. And if you do it the opposite way, look at lower res stuff on a higher resolution display it can look blurry. Cause it is stretching the picture to fit that screen and it can look very not good. Try playing a PS3 on a 4k TV. Not a great viewing experience, at least at a distance of under 10 feet.
I hope this makes sense.
I was also personally saying when watching Blu Ray and 4k on a 4k display there is not a huge difference in the picture, to me at least. If you get close to the display however you can notice a big difference. But viewing a show from the couch there is hardly any difference in my eyes. Also Blu Ray and 4K look so much better than any streaming service. Especially for older shows with lots of film grain. Streaming services can not handle film grain, it can look very bad most of the time.
Kay, that's all. If you have anymore questions I will try to answer them.
And if you have no standards like me, DVD still looks great too
@@pointyorb True... They do.
There are also still shows out there that are DVD only... So, yeah.
I've recently upgraded to 4K from 2K and there are marginal improvements. The biggest difference is my upgrade to Atmos. The sound really fills the room.
I've just bought a Sony A80J and see a big difference between Blu-ray and 4k discs. The HDR makes a huge difference on the right screen.
@@redrock425 You cannot really compare it like this with a double upgrade as the A80J is an OLED TV … the step up from my old LCD 4K UHD Sony to my new Sony A90J alone was an amazing leap …
@@redrock425 On the A80J you should not see that much of a difference as it upscales BluRays … on my A90J BluRay vs UHD difference is minimal … as it is a brilliant upscaler …
Saving Private Ryan was in DTS MA because that was the standard audio format then (it's not about disc space). Just as h.265 video encoding was introduced for UHD, 3D audio (Atmos, DTS:X) was also introduced. With included new blu-ray versions, you will see Atmos tracks on blu-ray now.
It may not be in this case, but it could be the case on other releases. Atmos takes up more space.
@@JeffRauseo The blu-ray specs came out years before Dolby Atmos was introduced. First theatrical movie with Atmos was Brave: 2012 (and Transformers, Age of Extinction was first BD in 2014). Also, home Atmos encoding tends to add locational meta-data on top of a Dolby Digital+ or True-HD 7.1 bed (so doesn't necessarily add a lot of extra disc space)
@@dsr0116 yes I understand that. And you could have a movie from 2020 that doesn’t include Atmos on the 4K because of disc space.
@@JeffRauseo BD movies are still being released in 5.1 (as opposed to 7.1) because there is still a large catalogue of movies that haven't been mixed in Atmos or DTS:X. Again, Atmos adds positional meta-data that doesn't add as much disc space as the bed of encoded audio channels (which for home media is 7.1 sound). What adds the most disc space for a movie is video (this is true for 8-bit h.264 1080P BDs and 10/12-bit h.265 4K BDs).
@@JeffRauseo Atmos does NOT take up more space; the difference is added metadata, that helps the decoder to place the sounds correctly, but it doesn't require extra disc space!
Same goes for other 3D sound formats! NO added disc space, unless they have remastered the track and maybe added some effects...
I'm happy with 1080p but moved to a 4K player as the discs usually have Atmos/DTS:X sound and that's what interests me the most.
Yeah audio is my favorite thing about movies
If the 4K blu-ray comes with a regular blu-ray, it is a no brainer, I buy that one but my favourite movies either don't exist in 4K BR yet
Maybe I'm just content, but i just don't care about trying to get the "latest" thing. I'm a collector with over 2000 BD's. I do tend to upgrade titles when they get mint reissues and collector's editions, but those are sensible upgrades and only every so often. Blu-Ray does everything I want it to without the "benefit" of the newer format. I'm old school either way, I don't care about "lifelike", just give me what looks like cinema, like the days I spent going to my local cineplex when we didn't even have digital projection or Atmos. Blu-ray does that just fine for me.
Now doesn't mean I'm blind to poor quality. I've run into shit looking and sounding releases, and I do scrutinize within the Blu-ray confines. I hate egregious DNR and edge enhancement.
At the end of the day, i just reached a point where "it's good enough". I can spend my money on other things like life experiences like traveling vacations, or updating my house. I can still relish in my love for cinema without falling into that format technology trap. A few years from now, 8k will come out in bloom and people will turn their nose up at 4k next. To hell with all that. Do you love stories told with visuals, or do you love electronic devices???
I don't double dip as much as I used to because HDR is the main upgrade and I haven't figured out a good way to calibrate it. And the discs are still more expensive.
I must be high. How is this video 3 years old when Dune 2 came out in 2024 🤔🤔🤔
I’d guess that he changes the thumbnail every now and again to trick the algorithm into pushing it
8:15 I'll note not all Blu-Ray discs use h264 compression. People can put whatever codecs they want in their discs.
4k is better on a video game quality
On most displays, the difference between 4K and 2K Blu Ray is virtually imperceptible.
Even as a physical media enthusiast, I really have to be looking for differences instead of just sitting back and enjoying the movie I’m watching. I can’t say that it’s worth it for the vast majority of people.
@@emeryththeman Yeah. When the price is right, I’ll buy a new 4K myself, but I have hundreds of Blu rays and there’s no way in hell I’m upgrading all of those to 4K like I did with my DVD collection.
@P T How many people do you think put speakers in their ceiling and/or generally give a shit about object based sound?
@@raphaeldelaghetto85 People who care enough about sound/image quality to buy 4k discs. also care about having a dobly atmos system or at least surround. Lol.
Hmmmmm as well as new discs I feel like this video is telling me to get a new monitor/TV. Do I need it? Cj
Very well done! You explained things very well that most could understand. As a projector guy I have minor problems with HDR. Some forums have been a big help on settings..
In short for me, if I already own a blu-ray copy and it's a title I love then I'll upgrade. If I only own the dvd, then I could go either or depending on the title.
agreed
DVDs are just too obviously bad on the new TVs we have now.
Great, straight to the point video. Just bought my first 4K UHD player today. Going to be a bit of a wait for it to arrive so went down a rabbit hole of 4K disc reviews so I have something to watch when it arrives sometime next week. Just subbed your channel.
How has it been for you mate? Do you notice much difference between blu ray and 4k or are they very similar? Thanks
@@UltimateGamR honestly not always but occasionally I'll switch from watching a 4K movie and then switch to a Blu-ray and the difference becomes more noticeable . It depends on the movie. Sometimes I'll watch a 4K movie and because my eyes have adjusted to the resolution , it's not something I notice much. But then I switch between 4K and BR and it's more obvious.
I was watching The Raid on Blu-ray recently straight after watching Dredd 4K and that was noticeable. Everything was sharper and the colours really stood out in Dredd, though The Raid just looked softer from the lower resolution and it looked dated. In fairness The Raid isn't a colourful movie but the details on Blu-ray were just not there.
I also watched Heat in 4K recently and except that it looked darker, it didn't stand out much from what I remember having seen it on other formats.
So far the best movie that really sold me on 4K BR was Black Hawk Down. There were times I watched that movie and I was blown away by how good that looked. The sharpness, the colour contrasts from the HDR just blew me away in a way no standard BR could.
So I'd say its worth it for the upgrade but it also comes down to the movie itself and how well it is transferred to 4K. I find myself always choosing 4K discs over BR if I have the option. BR is still fine though.
@@BadBeardDude Yeah I know exactly what you mean about your eyes getting used to the picture as that's happened to me. What you've said makes a lot of sense though so thanks for getting back to me I really appreciate it. I've got a PS5 which has a built in 4k blu ray player so was thinking of buying my favourite movies in 4k but wasn't sure if it was worth it as they aren't cheap but I will definitely buy a few movies like King Kong and Jurassic Park etc in 4k. Thanks again mate.
@@UltimateGamR No problem! I don't know if you have a HDR TV but I would say that's a massive selling point for me with 4K BR over standard BR.
@@BadBeardDude Yeah I do buddy you've convinced me anyway so thanks again.
As an invested 4k home cinema guy I’d just say to really enjoy all of the benefits 4k needs a certain level of investment , time and planning is needed . Buy the best flat screen 4k tv you can afford but pay attention to the size of the tv vrs seating position / distance - buy a very good 4k DVD player , buy a Good 5.1 speaker system with a good AV receiver and find a way to install at least 2 actual atmos height ceiling speakers .
Then you’ll get the full enjoyment of going to 4k dvds . DTs-x sounds great but Dolby Atmos is another level. Hacksaw Ridge on blue ray is one I know has atmos encoded but it does gripe me slightly that a lot of 4k movies ( mostly Sony affiliates) are only DTs-x .
DTS:X is NOT inferior to Dolby Atmos!
What it comes down to, is the mastering proces!
@@supergrissi dts-x as far as I’m aware doesn’t support the use of height / ceiling speakers 🔊 where as Atmos is designed specifically for that function- therefore it’s inferior in that it’s using the 5.1 set up to try and create the elevated sounds - with Atmos you must have the speaker elements linked to a AV receiver so height sound is dedicated to those speakers.
From someone who has a 5.2.2 Atmos set up using full Monitor Audio products I can honestly say dts-x is not as good as Atmos .
This is just the video I needed to say - explained everything great for me. Just getting my first 4k 55 inch tv and wondering what the differences are between the different formats, and this has helped a lot. Thanks!
You bring it straight and understandable to the point! 👍🏻
Thank you
And I just started collecting 4K ultra HD after my Blu-ray disc started collecting dust and wearing out my friend. Your advice is very much helpful to me. I’m learning new things by watching your videos. Thank you for the advice. Keep
Of a very recent 4K purchase of mine of 'The Godfather: Coda' I actually prefer the grain and color structure of the previous Bluray of 'The Godfather: Part III' (and the previous edit). The new one didn't amaze or impress me.
In my experience of collecting DVD Bluray & 4k Bluray the main factors are the Transfer Quality of the Discs and your Equipment...ie TV, Disc Player, & Audio Set-up..... When 4k 1st dropped studio's were offering 4k Disc with Bluray Disc and DVD discs all in 1 package so you were completely covered incase you hadn't upgraded to a 4k Bluray player which was substantial more costly than standard Bluray player (& still is) or purchased a top end 4K TV to get full advantage of the Technology as Plasma was Dying and OLED was just around the corner for consumers
HDR is the major benefit in my opinion. Really makes the image pop.
For movies, images don't need to "pop". In fact, they would rather not "pop". Because popping in movies tend to look superficial and put-on, dare I say "digital".
Great video! The only thing stopping me from upgrading to 4K is that I have a lot of standard DVDS that were never released on bluray or 4K and they look terrible on a 4K or Ultra HD TV.
4K TVs can upscale low res content so it should look better
@@Ben-tt3cg Hi Ben👍 I bought a Samsung ultra hd tv and some of my early DVDs were very motion blurry. I called out a tech guy after i tried all the settings and he said it was to be expected with the difference in picture. Just have to hope these DVDs get upgraded in the future.
@@Ben-tt3cg No it definitely does not look better it looks worse … on my 83” A90J plenty of DVDs have become unwatchable as the picture is tiny with black frame all around … or blown up to full screen you only see a pixelated something. An it does an amazing upscaling work … but a lot of old DVD’s have an awful quality, especially old rare ones …
I have invested in every format so far including hd dvd, blu ray is my final format as it is more than good enough. I find many 4k movies to be too dark for my liking. Unless you have a top of the line tv that's at least 75 inches you are not going to notice much of a difference. New formats are mainly introduced to get consumers to re- purchase movies that they already own, it's called planned obsolescence. You are also at the mercy of the transfer that the studios do it doesn't matter what the format is a bad transfer is not going to look good. A regular bluray with a good transfer will look better that a 4k with a bad transfer. And the human eye can only see so much detail anyways. No 4k for me I pretty much stopped purchasing movies anyways they take up alot of room you may watch them once or twice and then they just sit there collecting dust. Streaming is the future I've already embraced it. Rant over
Yeah even I’m only planning on collecting my absolute favourites- like a top 10 or 25 that I KNOW I’ll watch at least once every other year till I’m gone. Including a few that made the biggest impacts to me personally. For everything else, it’ll be streaming.
Cat O Nine Tails looks horrible.
One thing you didn’t mention, which I feel is important to point out, is the equipment needed. Besides the 4K disc player and TV, you also need to replace your HDMI cables. If you don’t, your expensive system and discs won’t perform as they should.
Some blurays are soo good it almost looks like a 4k depending on your player also ,I have Panasonic 820 and it up-convert the bluray to almost 4k ,do you have any news on the 4k release of heat yet ??
Thanks for this informative video. It's true what you say about how some people don't see the difference and think it's a waste of money for the upgrade. Thing is I do notice it so I get satisfaction with the higher quality where my friends thinks I'm wasting money.
Atmos, for the 0.01% of people that want the voice of God.
Actually hilarious and true!
Or currently can afford to hear his voice.
I have a 5.1.4 system. It's great
Sound is my least concern when watching a movie. I usually just use earphones... Is it really worth upgrading?
@@chadster225 it depends on what you want man. If sound isn't important to you then probably not. I recently installed ceiling speakers for atmos. For me, it adds a lot to the immersion during certain scenes. It has to be mixed properly for atmos though. War movies sound great with bullets flying around you and planes going over your head.
With Covid continuing as it is, the movie theater is dying. So I figured I might as well bring it to my house. I have no regrets. I bought the speakers on Amazon. Klipsch 5650 II. I also have an LG oled which looks amazing with proper use of HDR.
Well done. First time experiencing your channel. Now subscribed. Thank you!
4K is capable of delivering OUTSTANDING quality...IF the "human element", the colorist, hasn't mucked up the transfer with improper color grading.
The upgrade is worth it if you only have the DVD
@@jeffreykaufmann2867 No, it's even an upgrade over 1080p blu-ray. The HDR contrast of 4K is incredible.
Too much teal 👎👎👎👎
There are not many 4K titles out at the moment to warrant purchasing them here in the UK, best to stick to standard Blu-Ray for now.
I've got a mix of blu-rays and 4K. Currently 40 4K and another 4 on the way. UK based, buy used or in the sales, there are some good buys out there, be picky 😉
Good distraction from the TV. Thanks for the upload bro
Great info! My qualitative experience has been:
DVD: hit and miss on video and sound, often soft and harsh, respectively. Can be a hard watch on a large screen (projector, or even large panel).
BD: generally solid imagery and audio. Rarely have any complaints on a good system.
4k: HDR is a boost to video, resolution less so (even on a very large screen) but can occasionally “wow”. Audio is just more natural and immersive. Sound is less flashy and feels more like an immersive, high-impact, but natural experience. This could be modern mixing, atmos or less compression…bit I’ve stopped noticing problems with the mix and started enjoying the movie more
Another great video as always man. Keep'em comin'!
If I see a movie that I only kinda want, not a high priority, I’ll just buy the standard dvd, but if it’s one I loved, plan to watch again and again, I’ll buy the blu ray/4K
I have owned both formats, and settled on regular Bluray. On my 55" 4K Samsung QLED. There is NO VISIBLE DIFFERENCE and NOT WORTH the extra spend on media.
There is a huge difference with HDR. I've gone from a Samsung LED to a Sony OLED, a very noticeable upgrade. Viewing distance is key too. If we're watching a good 4K film the sofa gets pulled up to 8ft away.
Thanks for this man. I’m still rocking an old sony blu ray player and 1080p plasma tv lmao. Have started to pick up a few disks on sale to replace dvds, specifically those that have 4k+blu ray, so i can enjoy either or when I replace my player. Great video btw, concise and clear
T-2 is the only 4K disc I’ve had to downgrade from and buy the regular blu ray.
& for hurting his feelings, its douchebag director will deny us The Abyss, Aliens, T1 etc.
@@ddc2957 really?? I thought Abyss was on 4k already... :(
@@ddc2957 The Titanic win really got to his head and now he hasn't made anything good in 27 years.
Good Video! Even now, 3 years after this video I am still sticking to Blu Ray. I can easily tell the difference between DVD and a standard Blu Ray at the "proper viewing distance" but can't really tell a difference between 1080p and 4K most of the time. Many things I like I don't think will ever get a 4k release, like Star Trek TNG, Lost, etc. Heck, many other old titles I can only get on DVD like Mash (TV Series). Between the increased cost and increased storage needs for 4k, for now, I'll just stick with Blu Ray when I can get it.
Technically, 3860 x 2160 is not 4K but rather UHD. 4K resolution is 4096 x 2160
4k is 4,096 x anything. There are varying heights for footage. Things only get letterboxed to a fixed 16:9 frame when fed to the final video encoding process.
Maybe it was, but we can thank TV manufactures for mixing the terms to the point that 4K is 3840*x2160
Technically no movies are even 4k. They're filmed in 4k but compressed into 2k when put onto the CDs
Good video. I have collected (some) VHS tapes, then went crazy with DVD and finally upgraded almost all my movies to Blu-Ray and that is where I am stopping. I don't own a 4K TV (yet), still rocking a 2008 Panasonic plasma (yes it helps to heat my house! ha ha) picture quality still great for me with Blu-Ray1080p and DTS sound. I also rip all my Blu-ray discs and compress them down a bit to get a smaller file size - my eyes can't tell the difference!
I'll stick with my blurays and DVDs. I can't tell the difference between 4k and Blu-ray and can't see the point in "upgrading" to 4k. Plus it's way too expensive.
Discs are but there are some great offers on apple regularly and sometimes you get a free 4k upgrade if you have a hd version
dvd in 2023? 😂😂😂
Larger disc size have nothing to do with the audio. In the beginning atmos was on bluray discs, but due to sales strategy it became exclusive to uhd discs
For me personally, it really depends on the movie. If it has a 3D theater release, I’ll get the 3D Blu-ray. If not, I’ll look for it on 4K first, then Blu-ray if it’s not there. Last resort is dvd 📀. Will avoid that if possible.
I wonder who still has 3d tv at this point. I really want to have one but they’re not being made anymore
@@Loki-sk7bi You get a projector and glasses (DLP Viewsonic PX701HD for example). For me, 1080p is still fantastic quality and I wouldn't change the 3D experience for more pixels any day soon. Gl :)
I loved 3D and my Samsung 55" TV performed wonderfully for 10 yrs, until the power module failed. I then searched for several frustrating months until I found a "hole in the wall" shop that could fix it (none of the "big boys" would even return my calls for service). The repairs cost $500 and lasted only a year before failing again. I decided not to fall further down the rabbit hole and sadly bid farewell to the 3D format. I switched to OLED, and the amazing quality of 4K pictures has eased somewhat the pain of losing my beloved 3D. All things must pass, I guess.
I’m still with my dvd and Blu Rays. Even though a have some 4K. DVD are not bad, they good. Blu Rays is Great . I grew in the VHS era. And that was not all that good. But we enjoyed the films. I find is sad how some people want to throw away their DVDs, Blu rays, just because of 4K.
I honestly don't see much of a difference. Blu-ray seems to be lighter but 4K is a bit sharper and the color has more detail. But blurays still look awesome. So I don't see much of a reason for everyone to switch over.
The higher resolution benefits bigger displays more, the annoying thing is alot if these 4k discs aren't even 4k because of file sizes
I still buy blu rays, but some 4K movie with proper HDR treatment are worth the price. I would consider blu ray the new standard.
Some companies either do 1080 HD, 2K HD, OR 4K HD when they release a Blu-ray.
@@daniboy4153 between the movies I've tested bluray to 4K the clarity looks to be about exactly the same but the 4K color is a lot darker. So I honestly don't really see the hype with 4K. When I watch any of the films I have with 4K I usually watch the Blu-ray version instead. But I do watch the full-length film on 4K as well just to see the differences. In a film like Alien there's a ginormous difference on the 4K you can't see anything because the film is so dark anyways but on the Blu-ray you can see everything. Like when Kane goes down the shaft where all the eggs are you can see the whole map painting and how big the room really is and the eggs where is on 4K you can just see that little bit of light where he is and what's directly around him.
I have finally learned something here . I have had terrible experience with 4k . I even sent my 4k version of "The Ten Commandmente" back to the seller because the colors were so bad and dark . But I NOW believe that it is my DVD player ! I got it second-hand and it was supposed to play 4k disc's . I thought that if my DVD player did not play 4k's it wouldn't play at ALL . But it did play the 4k but the quality is terrible . But I have been reading and listening to reviews about 4k's and their supposed to be so much better . But on my DVD player the colors are faded and the picture is dark, dark, dark . I am going to take a chance and buy another DVD player . Thank you so much for all of this information . It was very much appreciation . Bob "Ziggy" Anderson
I look for the quality of how the film was made, scripted and acted WAY before I look at the various types of DVD which may be available.
There are a lot of crappy movies out there these days in the best of HD DVD available.
The human eye can see only so much, but the intelligence in how a film was made is really where the difference lies. And some of the best movies are in Black and White, a medium in which they were artistically best filmed.
I'm happy with Blu-Rays and not willing to spend a lot of money to replace my main system which includes a very loved Panasonic plasma TV, an Oppo universal disc player, yes for SACD's too, a Cambridge AV receiver, GoldenEar all around and an SVS sub. Thanks for a very informative video even if almost a year later.
You should check out James Rolfe top 10 why blu ray sucks
@@JohnyTheWizKid There could be 100 reasons and not just 10 but still not willing or thinking to discard something I'm happy with.
@@francescotenti193 Then would you consider buying the Angry Video Game Nerd bluray set? And tell me how the interactive menu is?
@@JohnyTheWizKid I do not play games, never did.
I've been considering buying a standard 4k player instead of using my Xbox one X. I think it works fine, just less wear and tear
Xbox one X isn’t bad. If you have a Dolby vision TV then it would be good to get a separate player. Otherwise it may not make much of a difference. Not much wear and tear really
@@CrashCarson14 so I just brought a 4K hdr 2160 tv. I believe it has Dolby vision/sound but I use the Xbox s (upgraded). are you suggesting/saying a separate 4K player would be better?
@@CrashCarson14 nevermind, my TV does not have Dolby Vision (samsung)
@@garyAjames the Xbox isn’t bad and won’t be be but a stand-alone player would be “easier” and have better options/settings geared for movies and audio. What I did is found a used X800 player for $85 on my local FB. I needed that 2nd HDMI out port for audio to my receiver. I wouldn’t pay much more for a player personally.
@@CrashCarson14 I'll check out that x800 player you mentioned. I live in a apartment and can't really blast the sound. the best I have is a single bose TV soudbar. thanks for the response and info
Tricky work putting a new thumbnail on an old video, well done.
I see a lot of complaints about HDR. If you plan on watching HDR and UHDs, it's important not to just buy a 4K TV because it says 4K and is $300. You need proper local dimming or OLED for HDR to work the way it is intended and that's the major difference between $300 4K TVs and ones that are over $1000. Yes, HDR does make scenes dark but keep in mind, it's trying to mirror what your actual eyes would see. If it's dark outside, shouldn't it look dark? At the same time, if it's a bright scene, it should be super bright. Anyway, spend the extra dough to get proper HDR. It's worth it.
The problem I have is that I have a Samsung qn90a I’m not sure if you’re familiar but it is a 1500+ dollar tv that hits up to 2000 nits of brightness and in sdr it’s fantastic, everything pops but in hdr even in daytime scenes it’s unrealistically dark even with brightness settings maxed out and I don’t know if it’s intended or not or if I’m just used to overblown images but it just looks bad to me even in a dark room. Idk maybe if I forced myself to watch it exclusively for a while I would get used to it but it sure is difficult.
@@Devin11246 Calibrated Qn90a is just over 1150 nits.. Which is perfect for the 1000nit reference.
I go by the quality of the movie first. 8/10, 9/10, 10/10 movies and if the disc has been scanned at native 4K. For films that I think are just good I go with regular Blu Ray. However almost all animated movies I go with Blu ray, with the only exception being 'Into the Spiderverse' as the 4K copy is phenomenal. 4K's are very expensive so regular Blu Rays is big savings.
4K is the best quality for the video game graphics
Great vid! I was really impressed by psycho, maybe because something so old comes to life in a new realistic way. Also the sound on Harry Potter was amazing.
Super informative. Just starting to collect 4K discs. Thank you!
Blu ray 3D format is better 😎
For example Avatar the Way of Water (and the first chapter) is better on blu ray 3D than 2D 4K
I agree that not all 4k movies are done equally. I didn't like the Batman 1989 movie on it. The Blue hue took away the minimalist lighting that it originally had. For that particular movie, I'm sticking with the Blu Ray. Blu Ray also had that same problem. I bought the Saw Collection on Blu Ray and I was disappointed with at the image noise and grainy picture it had in some of the movies. To mean, I felt that it was just a straight from DVD transfer. No HDR was used, even the original DVD's I still have look way better than the ones on Blu Ray.
It should be said that you need a decent tv if you want to get into 4K blu rays otherwise you'll be questioning what all of the hype is about.
When I first got a 4K BluRay player, I already had an LG 50" 4K TV that was given to me free from my service provider for a 2 year commitment. I bought a bunch of highly recommended discs and was ready to be wowed! I was so disappointed. There was virtually no visually significant difference between the BluRay and 4K. I then sold off the 4Ks and kept the Blurays.
Fast forward to about a year ago and I'm looking to upgrade to a bigger TV for my living room. I learned more about the HDR formats, wide color gamut (WCG) and contrast ratios. I didn't know that even though my 50" claimed to have HDR, there is just no comparison to the Sony 900H that I ended up buying. I now see what the fuss is about! Long story short... make sure your tv is up to snuff. I'm now rebuying all of those 4K discs.
How many times can you watch the same movie?
@@jeffreykaufmann2867 4-5 times at least. Just off hand, I know I've seen LOTR, Alita, Wonder woman, Matrix, and some Disney titles that many times.
And Home Alone and Sound of Music are Christmas traditions...
@@darrenchan22 I can't wait for a 4k box set of all six terminator movies.
@P T Agreed. But like the visual improvements, you'd need the audio equipment to realize those benefits. Most people (at least everyone I know) are blissfully unaware of those gains and are therefore content with their 5.1, basic soundbar, or TV speakers. Come to think of it, I don't think I've met anyone else that buys physical media (outside of the people I buy used discs from)...I think I need some new friends lol.
So I’m thinking about getting a 4K ultra HD player for my Samsung 4K TV that I bought a year and a half ago. But from everything I’ve seen online and read about the 4K Movies that you can buy looked much darker than the Blu-ray movies. It seems to be a major turn off for a lot of people can you explain this please and also can you tell me what the Fixies? Is there a setting on the TV or what do I do to make the movies brighter if I buy one of these players?
I believe that 4K has a better picture quality for the video games
I prefer the blu-ray version of movies because the 4K version hurts my eyes
Does owning a 4k tv up scale a standard blu ray? The leap from DVD playing on a blu ray player seems to look better from an up scale?
Anyone????
The Dune 2 cover confused me. lol
he's a time traveler. lol
I just bought a Sony UBP-X700 last week during the Boxing Week sales. I like it quite a bit so far plus it does upscaling (though I realize this is not as good as native 4K content). I only have one Ultra HD movie in my entire collection right now, Jigsaw. Usually I find 4K discs are much more expensive than 1080p Blu-rays. If it's only a few dollars more, I might be inclined to go 4K movies for future purchases, especially since I have a 75 inch TV with HDR10 and HDR10+ (and HLG if that counts). I just have a lower-end 2 channel soundbar with subwoofer but this is still way better than the built in speakers on the TV. I still have quite a few DVD's in my collection but won't upgrade from those unless I really like the movie. I've heard of people having freezing issues with various 100GB 4K discs (usually at the same parts of the movie), though I don't know how widespread that issue is. Might have to do with layer changes. Appreciate the unbiased advice later in your video!
Wait 6 months to a year after a movie's release on 4K discs and buy 4K discs Used-Like New or Used-Very Good on Amazon. You get surprisingly cheap bargains on 4K movies that way, sometimes cheaper than buying a 1080p movie new.
@@kthx1138 Will check into that, thanks!
@P T Sorry to hear that. So far so good with my X700 one and a half years later although I don't use it a lot. Mostly I just play DVD and 1080p Blu-Ray movies.
I went through the whole upgrade thing a few years ago with my favorite movies upgrading from DVD to Blu Ray and that was a big difference. I don't see as big of a benefit making the jump from Blu Ray to 4K. Is 4K better than Blu Ray? Well of course it is and for any new movies that come out that I love and want to add to my collection I will get the movie in 4K. Some of my Blu Rays are not the best transfer so if reviews on a 4K version of the same movie were great I would consider an upgrade in that case but for most of my Blu Rays I am quite satisfied with the quality of the video and audio. I think based on the home theater system most people have they will be fine with Blu Ray video and sound. I am not getting free movies sent to me so my budget is limited on what I have to spend on adding to my collection. I do love having the physical media though. Streaming quality at present just can't match what you get from a source disk and for a collector you get enjoyment just looking through your collection at times, looking at the artwork on the case which brings back memories of the movie.
If you have an OLED & a high end 4K blu ray player , then it’s a pretty big upgrade , it’s more immersive , yes the quality of blu rays are good but if there’s a 4K equivalent, it’s best to get that one
I have a massive movie collection and have previously replaced all my dvds with blu rays because the difference was so apparent. But I seriously cannot see any meaningful difference in quality from blu ray to 4k. At that point you are talking about detail that you could only notice on a massive screen if you paused and got up real close to examine the pixels. And I personally am not a fan of the HDR coloring. I think it looks artificial and makes movie look very uncinematic.
You should check out James Rolfe top 10 why blu ray sucks and read the comments
I only ever owned 3 blu-rays out of 300 dvds. I sold that off & made the jump to 4k on my favorite franchises & that's it. I'm planning on buying blu-rays now for certain films that don't have a 4k release yet.
I'm happy with whatever my streaming service provides me these days. I've been around for too long and have spent a fortune upgrading from, vinyl to tape, to CD. I always wanted to enjoy either music or video at the best quality within monetary reason, but I've stopped collecting all media. That's just me. Next thing will be 8K then 16K, yada, yada, yada. Now I'm not putting anyone down who wants to collect physical media, it's just not for me anymore.
Great subject! I have a core range of movies that I have on 4K or want on 4K (Jaws, joker, the nolan film’s, the shining etc, and hopefully one day my all time favourite, the silence of the lambs) But there are some titles that I like but don’t watch a whole lot so always wonder if it’s worth spending £20 on the 4K disc or would I be more then happy dropping £10 on the blu ray
As always, great content! Thank you so much for putting this out!
This was very informative. A lot of useful information and no filler. Thank you.