that's pretty cool! So essentially having an oil industry is essentially the only true 'self sustaining' one there is as you have basically unlimited power without needing people to transport things, and then you can use the excess to then ship around where people need it.
At this point yes. It is the only true way of a (almost) self sustaining facility. The only human input would be the g-sups and/or contruction materials into the maintenance tunnel
If you keep it small as a solo player or small group it is fine. I highly recommend thinking through what you want to produce and probably use foxholeplanner.com to get a good idea on (maintenance) costs
This is very helpful thank you. Perhaps later on can you do an advanced guide, looking at how to manage all the pipelines coming from different sources and routing into various buildings?
I've been doing some research into how the pipes and valves and flow rates work right now and decided that that is for other people to figure out :D. My main aim with these videos is to teach people the basics so they can explore the deeper layers themselves (and in this instance I just don't understand the deeper layers myself). But maybe when there is a new dev branch, with a next update, I can have a look into that.
Hi Freerk, I am truly enjoying all your building for Foxhole. I'm wondering if we can build a sustainable oil production and refinery in a hex that does not have Oil reserves?
Yeah.... no. With the amount of oil fields being available and the limit of 3 oil wells per field (currently) oil fields should be (semi)-public to allow everyone access to oil for further recipes. Not sure how the actual balance will turn out but I hope they make the calculations so that not all oil can be pumped away and stored in squadlocked liquid transfer stations and other facilities. And yes, I do realize that the comment quite probably was ironic
@@FreerkHoltes Tell that to the clans who monopolize oil resources. It is an endemic problem. They use oil to power their own, and allow none for the public. Such a problem on the Warden side that I simply left 101. It is easy to see why the wardens lose (from my perspective). That, and the devs putting oil resources on little islands that aren't accessible. Couldn't even keep the mines running in our sector due to the hording. Closest public petrol was 2 hexes away.
@@ihatemagas Hopefully the addition of a coal upgarde to the diesel power generator and the changes to the coal power plant recipe can turn the reliance on oil around. Not to forget that in the new decay prevention system the maintenance tunnel doesn't need power anymore, so facilities don't necessarily need 24/7 power
@@FreerkHoltes Well, I keep seeing folks build things right up to the resources (be it coal, scrap, whatever), leaving no room for anything (not even parking) and blocking other player's access to said resources. Extremely poor planning involved. Then they will get mad when you park your truck on their rail line which completely encircles the field. There seems to be a fundamental desire to monopolize. Certain clans on both sides do this. They are not aiding in the war effort.
@@FreerkHoltes It also isn't only about automating power. You need petrol and heavy oil to optimize production of various materials. And since it isn't available, and you are not an oil baron, you get the base model of a tank instead of a battle tank.
What is the point of 2 recepies in electric oil well? I assume when it says 1 per 26 secs it means 50L. So we have 50L/26 sec = 1.92L per second and we have 75L/40 sec = 1.87L per second One is clearly better isnt it? Or the worse one is the only one that can be transfered via pipelines and first one you have to grab manually?
Sandbags can be made in the normal factory as a crate of 5 AND can be made in the Recycler upgrade of the Materials Factory where they stack in the inventory. Loose sandbags can be put into the stockpile of a Material Transfer Station and then put on a pallet like in the Transfer Station video: th-cam.com/video/k42fxoPNkHY/w-d-xo.html So there's three transporting options: loose sandbags, crated sandbags and sandbags on a materials pallet
@@FreerkHoltes Thanks! I was hoping we can turn Pallet --> Storage Depot but sadly that's not really an option. As far as I can see, Pallets are only used to take out of a transfer station and give to players or another Transfer station.
Hi Freerk. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but according to the devblog there is something called a 'pipeline valve'. Is that a separate item from the regular pipes? How does it work?
A valve allows you to regulate the flow of liquids out of a structure. With a wrench you can have it change from 2.5L/s (steps of0.2L) to zero. This can be helpfull to turn on and off the flow of liquid to certain facilitities or even make the distribution of liquids through a pipejunction more effeicient. Fluid dynamics in Foxhole (like in real life) are complicated though, so I kinda stayed away from it.
@@FreerkHoltes By the time we get acclimated with the new update, players will have certified degrees in fields of specialization in the game specially logi players LMAO, heck Logi clans will start posting "Wanted help" in world chat for people and will only let them in If they have at minimum 2 wars worth of experience in logi and not just generally but specialized fields of Logi going forward after 1.0 ... LOL
@@proudfirebrand3946 I will start a certification company scoring FAT's and LAT's. Facilities Aptitude Test and Logistics Aptitude Test. If somebody can come up with a BAT (Building Aptitude Test) that would be great.
so i dont understand why you'd switch from the petrol power plant to the crude based one. youre already making petrol as your main output and its more efficient power wise at 12mW/50l compared to 10mW/50l, especially once you use the water + crude = petrol recipe, plus a smaller building for the PPP. is there any reason for this? i havent looked into facilities much up to now so i dont know the later upgrades etc or anything like that. either way thanks for this and all the other guides youve made
It all depends on the goal you have with your facility (and I with my tutorials). My main goal with the tutorials is to display the different options and game mechanics. Not "what's the meta" or the most efficient. The figuring out part what works, what is best, what is most efficient I leave to everyone themselves
Depends on your needs. If you want a semi-self sustaining powergrid yes. If it's just about access to oil (and oil-like products); you generally still can get oil at the oil pumps and petrol at refineries, cause they produce more than they can pump out.
It is funny i went straight oil industry with 5 refinery and now setting on a lot of petrol i can use those petrol to fuel the new harvest machine to get more material for tank production once 28th hit i will focus on 10 refinery to build my oil empire
In the test war or in devbranch? If you managed to get a 5 refinery set-up working with enough oil in the test war solo, that is amazing (and at least against my expectations of oil being hard to come by)
@@FreerkHoltes I'm on the test server and with what i have i can run the 5 refinery solo and produce 2200 barrel of petrol in a day if i have all the stuff you have i could run 10 refinery with little efforts and make petrol even when I'm offline You can make oil from coal if you invest in the factory right 👍
When the message is "one or more item are not reservable" it means that they are considered "public". I am not sure if all oil is considered public or that if YOU build the oilwell you would actually be able to store it in your private stockpile. Personally I wouldn't bother with crating oil but just transport it via fueltruck or static liquid container and then store it in a squadlocked liquid transfer station, or use it immediately
I think foxhole needs some sort of inserter like in factorio. Or at least we should chose how many items we want to transfer :( waiting is ok but clicking for each item is insane :(
Also, note not to stand right next to where the oil pump modification attaches or else it will snare you and you will get stuck and can not get unstuck with the command !unstuck.
Finally I can become Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadom. Produce all the chocolate milk I want! More milk, more mind control! And more mind control, more money!
Equip your hammer, press "F" to go into upgrade mode, aim at the facility/foundation/traintrack you want removed, press "E". Select the "Mark as disruptive placement" (minus icon) in the action menu. Have 5 people do this, you should then be able to blow it up with HE (otherwise it will say "does not take friendly fire")
It is the most popular discussion topic here: which way of showing the LMB and RMB is best. It is also why in most videos I at least try to mention in voice which button I'm pressing the first time they are displayed. So no, they are not reversed (it's how I designed them and display them) But also yes, you can see them as reversed (Death of the Author)
Hi, using oil as fuel is extremely wasteful, you should stick to using petrol fueled generators instead, they are smaller and generate more power for the same or lower (depending on your refinery setup) cost.
@@zazempireorigin7818 You would have to do some calculations on that. But since it is used in other recipes as well I would not use it to generate power
I hope Devs will add your videos to the game menu , like they do with other Streamers. These videos are better than ingame training course
"These videos are better than ingame training course"
To be fair that isn't a very high bar :D
@@FreerkHoltes 😂😂😂
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Nice Video! It's great that people are getting more invested in the oil industry!
I become an oil prince XD setting on 9000 barrel of petrol and heavy oil
Now I just need the oil industry to invest in my channel ;)
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Thank you to all who build. You make the map so interesting
that's pretty cool! So essentially having an oil industry is essentially the only true 'self sustaining' one there is as you have basically unlimited power without needing people to transport things, and then you can use the excess to then ship around where people need it.
At this point yes. It is the only true way of a (almost) self sustaining facility. The only human input would be the g-sups and/or contruction materials into the maintenance tunnel
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. - Jeremiah 29:13
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
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@@FreerkHoltes 🦕
Thanks for the video. Never really looked into the facilities as it seemed like a headache to do so, but it actually seems fine
If you keep it small as a solo player or small group it is fine. I highly recommend thinking through what you want to produce and probably use foxholeplanner.com to get a good idea on (maintenance) costs
@@FreerkHoltes Thanks, that is a great resource! I was mainly thinking about producing petrol, so the cost should be pretty bearable.
This is very helpful thank you. Perhaps later on can you do an advanced guide, looking at how to manage all the pipelines coming from different sources and routing into various buildings?
I've been doing some research into how the pipes and valves and flow rates work right now and decided that that is for other people to figure out :D.
My main aim with these videos is to teach people the basics so they can explore the deeper layers themselves (and in this instance I just don't understand the deeper layers myself). But maybe when there is a new dev branch, with a next update, I can have a look into that.
Hi Freerk, I am truly enjoying all your building for Foxhole.
I'm wondering if we can build a sustainable oil production and refinery in a hex that does not have Oil reserves?
you are awesome!
but i hope dev will add more oil ... :(
You are amazing, thanks!
can't wait to claim my oil well for private use!
Yeah.... no.
With the amount of oil fields being available and the limit of 3 oil wells per field (currently) oil fields should be (semi)-public to allow everyone access to oil for further recipes. Not sure how the actual balance will turn out but I hope they make the calculations so that not all oil can be pumped away and stored in squadlocked liquid transfer stations and other facilities.
And yes, I do realize that the comment quite probably was ironic
@@FreerkHoltes Tell that to the clans who monopolize oil resources. It is an endemic problem. They use oil to power their own, and allow none for the public. Such a problem on the Warden side that I simply left 101. It is easy to see why the wardens lose (from my perspective). That, and the devs putting oil resources on little islands that aren't accessible. Couldn't even keep the mines running in our sector due to the hording. Closest public petrol was 2 hexes away.
@@ihatemagas Hopefully the addition of a coal upgarde to the diesel power generator and the changes to the coal power plant recipe can turn the reliance on oil around. Not to forget that in the new decay prevention system the maintenance tunnel doesn't need power anymore, so facilities don't necessarily need 24/7 power
@@FreerkHoltes Well, I keep seeing folks build things right up to the resources (be it coal, scrap, whatever), leaving no room for anything (not even parking) and blocking other player's access to said resources. Extremely poor planning involved. Then they will get mad when you park your truck on their rail line which completely encircles the field. There seems to be a fundamental desire to monopolize. Certain clans on both sides do this. They are not aiding in the war effort.
@@FreerkHoltes It also isn't only about automating power. You need petrol and heavy oil to optimize production of various materials. And since it isn't available, and you are not an oil baron, you get the base model of a tank instead of a battle tank.
*Hi Bro, good video, like👍*
Thank you!
very cool videos man!
Thanks!
What is the point of 2 recepies in electric oil well?
I assume when it says 1 per 26 secs it means 50L.
So we have 50L/26 sec = 1.92L per second
and we have 75L/40 sec = 1.87L per second
One is clearly better isnt it?
Or the worse one is the only one that can be transfered via pipelines and first one you have to grab manually?
Great video!
Can you explain Sandbags and Pallets? I'm not understanding how to store these now
Sandbags can be made in the normal factory as a crate of 5 AND can be made in the Recycler upgrade of the Materials Factory where they stack in the inventory.
Loose sandbags can be put into the stockpile of a Material Transfer Station and then put on a pallet like in the Transfer Station video: th-cam.com/video/k42fxoPNkHY/w-d-xo.html
So there's three transporting options: loose sandbags, crated sandbags and sandbags on a materials pallet
@@FreerkHoltes Thanks! I was hoping we can turn Pallet --> Storage Depot but sadly that's not really an option. As far as I can see, Pallets are only used to take out of a transfer station and give to players or another Transfer station.
Hi Freerk. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but according to the devblog there is something called a 'pipeline valve'. Is that a separate item from the regular pipes? How does it work?
A valve allows you to regulate the flow of liquids out of a structure. With a wrench you can have it change from 2.5L/s (steps of0.2L) to zero. This can be helpfull to turn on and off the flow of liquid to certain facilitities or even make the distribution of liquids through a pipejunction more effeicient.
Fluid dynamics in Foxhole (like in real life) are complicated though, so I kinda stayed away from it.
@@FreerkHoltes By the time we get acclimated with the new update, players will have certified degrees in fields of specialization in the game specially logi players LMAO, heck Logi clans will start posting "Wanted help" in world chat for people and will only let them in If they have at minimum 2 wars worth of experience in logi and not just generally but specialized fields of Logi going forward after 1.0 ... LOL
@@proudfirebrand3946 I will start a certification company scoring FAT's and LAT's. Facilities Aptitude Test and Logistics Aptitude Test.
If somebody can come up with a BAT (Building Aptitude Test) that would be great.
so i dont understand why you'd switch from the petrol power plant to the crude based one. youre already making petrol as your main output and its more efficient power wise at 12mW/50l compared to 10mW/50l, especially once you use the water + crude = petrol recipe, plus a smaller building for the PPP. is there any reason for this? i havent looked into facilities much up to now so i dont know the later upgrades etc or anything like that. either way thanks for this and all the other guides youve made
It all depends on the goal you have with your facility (and I with my tutorials).
My main goal with the tutorials is to display the different options and game mechanics. Not "what's the meta" or the most efficient.
The figuring out part what works, what is best, what is most efficient I leave to everyone themselves
fair enough, thanks
what should I do if all the crude oil field all have been taken, just wait for another round and go as fast as possible to take one?
Depends on your needs. If you want a semi-self sustaining powergrid yes. If it's just about access to oil (and oil-like products); you generally still can get oil at the oil pumps and petrol at refineries, cause they produce more than they can pump out.
I wonder how many satchel will it take to take down these refinery .. just curious since they're like hot targets beside trains =)
foxhole.fandom.com/wiki/Structure_Health
Usually is pretty acurate
It is funny i went straight oil industry with 5 refinery and now setting on a lot of petrol i can use those petrol to fuel the new harvest machine to get more material for tank production once 28th hit i will focus on 10 refinery to build my oil empire
In the test war or in devbranch?
If you managed to get a 5 refinery set-up working with enough oil in the test war solo, that is amazing (and at least against my expectations of oil being hard to come by)
@@FreerkHoltes
I'm on the test server and with what i have i can run the 5 refinery solo and produce 2200 barrel of petrol in a day if i have all the stuff you have i could run 10 refinery with little efforts and make petrol even when I'm offline
You can make oil from coal if you invest in the factory right 👍
How do you store oil crate on a private stockpile on a storage depot or seaport? It allways says "One or more items are not resaravble"
When the message is "one or more item are not reservable" it means that they are considered "public".
I am not sure if all oil is considered public or that if YOU build the oilwell you would actually be able to store it in your private stockpile.
Personally I wouldn't bother with crating oil but just transport it via fueltruck or static liquid container and then store it in a squadlocked liquid transfer station, or use it immediately
I hope they make oil transfer job less tedious :( it clicking for each petrol to fill tank makes me insane. Is there any easier method ?
Besides shift-clicking there is currently no quick way that I know of to transfer petrol to fill a fueltank.
@@FreerkHoltes 🥹thank you
I think foxhole needs some sort of inserter like in factorio. Or at least we should chose how many items we want to transfer :( waiting is ok but clicking for each item is insane :(
Btw you are so good man thank you for all tutorials I learned a lot from you
@@cdgggg Yeah agreed. Just letting us select the amount we want to retrieve (even if it takes long) would be great.
I wish you could have explained the fracking upgrade too, the wiki is not much help either regarding that topic :S
Also, note not to stand right next to where the oil pump modification attaches or else it will snare you and you will get stuck and can not get unstuck with the command !unstuck.
There is training course?!😮
Yes, on Home Island. Just open your map when you are on Home Island and you can see the different training courses
5:30 you have the oils reversed, yes it is weird and i know what the captions says when the process does
O yeah, I see it.
Well... people this far into facilities can spot that themselves I hope
Finally I can become Doug Dimmadome, owner of the Dimmsdale Dimmadom. Produce all the chocolate milk I want! More milk, more mind control! And more mind control, more money!
How to demolish something if we can't use demolish button?
Equip your hammer, press "F" to go into upgrade mode, aim at the facility/foundation/traintrack you want removed, press "E". Select the "Mark as disruptive placement" (minus icon) in the action menu.
Have 5 people do this, you should then be able to blow it up with HE (otherwise it will say "does not take friendly fire")
no oil pipeline to refinary?
nevermind
This called for a "Patience young padawan" but I see you allready found it :D
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how to get pipes
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your left click and right click symbols are switched
It is the most popular discussion topic here: which way of showing the LMB and RMB is best. It is also why in most videos I at least try to mention in voice which button I'm pressing the first time they are displayed.
So no, they are not reversed (it's how I designed them and display them)
But also yes, you can see them as reversed (Death of the Author)
Hi, using oil as fuel is extremely wasteful, you should stick to using petrol fueled generators instead, they are smaller and generate more power for the same or lower (depending on your refinery setup) cost.
Agreed.
Just bear in mind that these videos aren't necessarily about what's best but about what's possible and how to do that.
Is heavy oil any more efficient?
@@zazempireorigin7818 You would have to do some calculations on that. But since it is used in other recipes as well I would not use it to generate power
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life. -John 3:16
And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart. - Jeremiah 29:13
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