My family bought a refurbished Wii u from game stop. We ended up getting a disc copy of smash bros brawl for wiI still inside the system and they never reformatted the system so it had splatoon and Wii u smash bros installed for free. Needless to say we came out ahead on that deal.
@@juandelossantos8777 How? They got BRAWL in it: that's the worst insult and piece of dirt they could possibly ever get. Unless Project M was pre-installed, too.
I'm surprised you didn't feel disgusting asking *anyone* to sign up for pre-orders. Particularly these days when the only purpose they serve is tricking you into buying a non-returnable product before you find out that it's a steaming pile of crap that you really wish you hadn't purchased. But at least your boring bug-riddled $90 collector's edition came with a $2 plastic figurine and an exclusive in-game weapon.
That's unsurprising considering GameStop's repair centers don't exactly fix the issue at hand. They basically perform a minor band-aid fix which may work for a few days, a few weeks, maybe a few months if you're lucky, but they weren't longterm fixes. A longterm fix would either be to re-ball the CPU and GPU or just replace the board with a brand new one as a whole.
They literally take the systems apart and blow air in them and use parts from broken systems and see if they boot up and then say they are fixed then. Point of reference, personally observed the process.
Oh yeah, I also ran the defective return reports for the company for over 5 years. These had a roughly 40-50% on the later versions of the 360, the very first two versions of the 360 had a much higher defective return rate around 75% is my memory serves me correct. You are better off buying used than GameStop refurbished.
All the telltale signs of a GameStop "repair" done to the console, thanks for spreading the awareness of it! Unfortunate that many people are now seeing videos such as these years after the Xbox 360's peak popularity, but it's equally unfortunate that GameStop is STILL doing this to consoles in 2018.
Looks like the GPU has the wrong heatsync as well. That is the first gen GPU heatsync with no copper heat tube and secondary heatsync... It has the newer gen CPU heatsync though. That is definitely a Frankensteined system.
In my xbox 360 the CPU fan was setup to blow directly into the plastic side. After red ring of death (for overheating)I decided to inspect the inside. After opening it up and noticing the poor cooling design I decided to drill holes into the side of the plastic. I am proud to say that my Xbox 360 is still working after 12+ years of service. Apparently I'm a better engineer than the company out of Waterloo that Microsoft contracted to design the thing.
The biggest problem is that they used the same fans that are in the original Xbox. Newer technology is much more powerful and put out a lot more heat. This was a stupid idea. Plus, they undervoltaged them, so they were only running at about 40% capacity until they were starting to overheat; at that point, the fans finally sped up.
@@bryancampbell4604 when I looked up the part number of the fan, it was listed numerous places as being for both the original and 360. They probably listed it wrong then.
@@justinbowman1342 Got that right I was training to be a seasonal temp and the workstation froze up like every 5 mins and I couldn't even finish the damn thing. Ended up not even bothering working for them because the communication with management was so awful. I had been checking up with them regularly to see when I would train more and start working but the Manager wouldn't even really answer me and said I don't know and a few weeks go by and and a friend I would've been working with messages me saying I was scheduled for 10 am earlier that day. I had contacted them 3 days prior and they didn't even give me an idea of when I would start working. This all happened within this week too and was not years ago. I wouldn't recommend trying to work there. I literally was interviewed like beginning of September and was told I would most likely start working mid October then I go train for 1 day at the end of October and then they pull this shit this week.
@@NeoDFFXIV And yet they're bleeding money so bad they have to resort to converting 80% of each store into selling candy and toys and bullshit. Now they're desperately trying to corner the retro game market to stay relevant.
Hi there! Gamestop employee here for a good chunk of time... unfortunately. If you’re gonna buy preowned systems from GS, I would always recommend getting a USED system from the store and not a refurb. They’re different skews in our system since they’re treated differently. When they’re used, it’s been tested in our stores for all usual notable issues. When it is refurbed, it’s been sent to our warehouse and “fixed” We get complaints a lot when it comes to refurbs, and have to do a lot of returns and exchanges. The company really doesn’t give a hoot about what they’re selling you, even though the employees genuinely want to make sure you’re getting what you pay for. Also customers have a right to ask the employees to make sure it works at the store, or at least open the box if they want to examine all pieces. Just try not to do that at a busy time when there’s a single employee... (I beg of you) I digress, sorry the 360 you got was a shitty one. I can’t say I’m surprised but it’s still painful to see when it happens.
Is there any reason why Gamestop would hire non-gamers? Not being pretentious or showing off how big my dick is, but I seem very knowledgeable on games and systems and even have retail experience, yet the Gamestop employees I run into seem to be those extroverted, I don't give a shit about games type of peoplethat GS likes to hire. I even see cute girls working at the store as managers of all people. Seems Gamestop hates having gamers in their stores.
Alan Walkman Because first and foremost GameStop is a business. Always have been and considering they are dying out as people buy things digitally, they need employees that can sell games. Most of their customers are family members who won’t know what’s what and are an easy sell to outgoing people or cute girls that seem to be on their side. A gamer like you or me will tell them if a game is bad and not to buy, GameStop wants the most return on investment and have no cares for customer satisfaction. It’s better off you don’t work there anyway, it’s a shit working experience and the employees can tell you that. The only gamer employees that are there are the ones who just need the cash and are just selling what they know is garbage to keep their jobs.
Alan Walkman Frankly most gamers probably wouldn’t make for the best gamestop salesman, which is what the job entails. It doesn’t matter how many hours you racked up in Red Dead 2 if you can’t sell a product. And a lot of gamers wouldn’t recommend preordering games like Call of Duty, but that is part of the job.
The GameStop I worked at about 5 years ago now was staffed entirely by gamers - including the females on the staff (we are not arm candy, nor are we ditzy idiots that don't know anything about games, thank you very much). That was a fun crew. Our primary objective was to help ppl find games they wanted to play and our manager fully supported us in that. Sure, there were the spiels we had to give and the memberships and preorder percentages we had to maintain, but we always tried to customize our sales pitches to the customer. For example, if I had a customer that came in looking for an RPG, I didn't try to pitch CoD or Madden to them, instead I brought up an upcoming RPG that I thought they might like. I left when they introduced the credit cards. I knew it was a bad idea and that they'd eventually end up including them in our "numbers" that we had to hit every month (despite their insistence that they wouldn't - when I went back about a year later and talked to the ASM, he confirmed that my suspicions were correct). I already hated that they tried to get us to pitch iPods and the stupid phone stuff - although the phone card plans stopped being pushed after they acquired... whatever that store is called. As of the last time I went to that store, the only one left was Bill - the ASM. Everyone else had ended up leaving for one reason or another. And the ppl that replaced them were all about making sales goals and didn't care one bit about the customers. That's been my experience at my new local GameStop too (I've moved since then). I expected the usual spiels and such, but when the manager tried to tell me that the PSVR had better graphics than Vive or Occulus? That was when I knew I couldn't trust anyone at that store to tell me the truth. All I wanted to know was how much quality would be sacrificed and whether or not the cost differences were worth it. To lie to me outright like that in hopes of getting a sale? Fuck that! As for GameStop locations with great employees that care and try to take care of their customers? That seems to be luck of the draw from what I've seen. I also wouldn't expect it to always stay that way either. GameStop has high turnover rates for a reason - and it's entirely due to corporate policies (including pay).
@@SadisticSenpai61 I had a similar experience in a UK-based game store (owned by the same people as GameStop), the times when you could actually help a customer find a game that was right for them were great, when you could recommend a title based on what games they enjoyed. Over time though, all these sales targets and being pushed to sell certain titles and store-exclusive editions or preorders really began to wear down on the enjoyment that a lot of us got from it, and pretty much everyone began to leave and be replaced by people who didn't really care what they were selling as long as they met the targets. The last straw for me came when a customer was looking for an RPG, after chatting I recommended the Witcher 3 (which matched what he wanted, was on sale at the time and a really damn good deal for the price), and the store manager told me off both for recommending a sale title over a full price one, and for taking too long... This was literally the only customer in the shop. Later that day, a kid and his mum came in for GTA5, and I mentioned that the game was 18-rated, which the mum didn't know and decided not to buy it for her 7-ish year old son. I got shouted at by the manager for that, as well. At that point I just quit on the spot.
The 5 dollar is not that bad you get a hot pizza for cheap price it may not be as fancy as other pizza place that the price of frozen pizza you do not have to wait 20 minutes for hot pizza
I bought a used Ps Vita for 160$ from them and they gave me a Vita that went through World War II. It was covered in deep scratches and heaps amount of p*rn on it, the stick was completely unresponsive on the left side. It took them 3 months to get me a refund. I bought one on ebay for cheaper and brand new in the box. NEVER buy a used console from gamestop.
I wouldn't be surprised if working at a refurb place you are forced an mpu (minutes per unit) to complete each one. So you do them as quickly as you can and quality doesn't matter. This is just my theory.
I love...LOVE how it isnt simply a refurbished console. It's a PREMIUM REFURBISHED SYSTEM! I mean, if it was just refurbished I would pass...BUT PREMIUM???? How can I resist!!!
In terms of marketing, it's actually probably a pretty solid tactic. Most people who buy these aren't going to open them up, let alone have any idea what they're supposed to be looking at if they do so I'm sure that fancy sounding name is an effective selling point.
They probably don't have a warranty sticker on there because it's becoming more common knowledge now that those "WARRANTY VOID IF REMOVED" stickers are actually illegal. Companies can't refuse warranty service just because you opened up a device you own and have every legal right to open.
Companies will still try to deny services based off stickers being removed unfortunately. It would require taking them to court to make them honor the warranty, which they know the average joe cannot afford. Yes, you still have the right to claim the warranty, but you will often require more money than the system cost in legal fees.
@@awifephnptrrytrw Actually, there's some hope: the FTC is warning many companies that their stickers are illegal, and as a result, some of them are voluntarily discontinuing placing these stickers on new products and are more likely now to honor warranties on products that did have those stickers broken.
Unless it’s a rolls Royce my man, if you even pop the hood open on a rolls Royce, a seal between the hood and grill is broken unless opened by a rolls Royce factory or dealership themself, and you warranty is void just because u wanted to show off your engine. Defff not tryna compare an og xbox 360, just giving an example of a company putting out a fucked up rule that voids a warranty
@@salvatorelanzilotta386 Wow. Refusing warranty service that way sounds pretty illegal. I'm not a lawyer, but I wouldn't give Rolls Royce good odds in court if someone sued over it.
probably if he got a nice one he wouldn't bother to record and upload it on youtube. the title "i got a good console from gamestop and i am happy" wouldn't get many views and subs.
@@ghassbomb9910 good thing people never break laws LOL I don't know if it was me you better believe I'd be returning it as they sold me a faulty product however I can't imagine it's worth the hassle
They don’t have the sticker in case you bring it back and they go “well sir there seems to be no sticker here so obviously you messed with it” and if you explain that there was never a sticker they would say “how would you know unless you opened and messed with it” *triggered*
I’ve bought 5 of those back in the day. 3 are red ringed in my closet still. And every single one came with jacked up controller sticks. They certify the system, NOT its components. And if you try to return the controllers, that’s exactly what they’ll tell you. That was the last time I gave GameStop a dime of my money. I’d rather quit gaming forever than spend anymore money in their store.
Had 5 different 360's. 4 died to RoD and one had a faulty GPU (not RoD but weird colors). The last one was out of warranty so a younger me had to open and repair it, which then lasted for a year at least. I liked the 360 but man was it prone to failure.
Yeah, if I remember the shoddy quality of the earlier Xbox 360 consoles was to rush them into the market which is how the whole 'Red Ring of death' appeared and for some reason the future versions never fully recovered from that sting.
You got the Xbox 360 for only $40. I paid around $200 or so at the time. It was also refurbished and I also bought 4-5 games for it for a total of around $250. The unfortunate thing is that the console stopped working around the time that the return date had expired. From that moment on I've never bought a refurbished game console, at least not when it comes to the newer systems. It didn't help that the older Xbox 360 consoles got the infamous RROD, which was due to overheating issues. I finally bought a brand new Xbox 360 Slim back in 2012 and it's been working flawlessly since then. Thanks for the great video. I really appreciate it!
You make a very valid point. The Xbox 360 originally came with a 1 year warranty, which was extended to 3 years because of the RROD. At the time, I couldn't get a refurbished PS3 for around $180-$200. My only option was to buy an Xbox 360 and I wanted to experience HD gaming for the first time. Unfortunately, rushing out to buy a refurbished Xbox 360 ended up costing me in the end. It's been a learning lesson since then.
super unfortunate. I got a referb 360 years and years ago from gamestop and It is still working with slight problems, been playing a lot of skate 3 here lately and even halo 2/halo 4. But, my biggest issue is the wifi card on it only works when it wants to work, and the system will freeze if the wifi goes out while signing in to my account. Luckily, my console is very close to my internet router so I can hard wire it.
@@bryanjordan8876 You have an Xbox 360 slim, right? The old phat ones don't have an internal WiFi. The slims were less likely to fail, so you can't really compare that. The original phat Xboxes failed a lot, I got a few of them broken and I normally tried to get one that hadn't been tampered with, because you never knew what the previous owner had done to it. My first one was a 2008 model that I got new. It got the RROD within two years. Then I got a 2009 model with a defective drive (dead laser), used the laser from my 2008 one to fix that, I still have that one (I think), but I replaced it with a Slim that didn't work due to a defective harddrive (easiest fix ever, didn't even have to open it). Also I still have two (or three?) from 2006, that I got nearly for free around 2012, in non-working condition, they all had really bad xclamp fixes. I didn't want to fix them, but ended up still trying to save them, by putting the mainboards in the oven. Now they work, but they have been collecting dust for atleast four years. They work, so I don't want to throw them away, but I also can't sell them, because there is no way I could tell how long they work, they might fail again within a few days.
My first console I ever bought with my own money was a 360 from Mejier years ago. It was used, but Mejier told me "there was nothing to worry about." Long story short, I took it home it was already red ringed. Believe it or not, the next day I took it back and the guy right in front of me in line at the return desk also had a used 360, and it too was red ringed. Said fuck it, went to Best Buy, spent an extra $100 and got the elite for twice the memory. Used consoles are shiet.
@@knockbitzhd I had one of the first 60gb ps3 backwards compatible for like 2 years before it got the yellow light of death. Warranty replaced it for the 80gb mgs4 bundle and that one took a dump after a few months. I never had good luck with the ps3. My ps4 however is an early release 500gb model and I'm still using it to this day.
If you actually paid for it , then yeah, it's a waste of money. But they have been offering it for free after rebate the past black fridays. If you are lucky enough you get a system you can mod and you get more than your moneys worth which is about the cost of the tax you paid(if any) for it.
I tried dismantling my old 360 elite because dust had gathered behind the power button sensor which would turn it on and off at random times. Without the Microsoft tool.... It's was bad.... real bad... I ended up Ripping the casing off and it took me hours and I cut my hands up on the metal sheet on the inside and got blood all Inside my xbox... to this day if the console heats up alot I can smell burnt blood...
I bought one of these years ago and it literally failed withing a week, I wish I could have seen this video then, thanks for sharing, you are very knowledgeable.
I wish my parents knew back in 2010 when they bought the slim model. But i loved it still. And besides the only thing i ever cared about was playing Bad Company 2
Lol my first and second 360s were both 4gb. The first one was the arcade model and it came with guitar hero 3. The second one was the slim model. Never had a problem with not having a hard drive.
@@johnharrington4757 I knowingly bought the hard drive-less 360 slim in 2011. I mainly just played call of duty black ops so I had no issues. It was back when Sony got hacked and PSN was down for 3 weeks. I was so hooked on Black Ops at the time I took a bunch of PS3 games that I had but didn't play and traded them in for a 360 and a copy of black ops.
Got a refurb 360 and it was crap. Controller hadn't been washed and didn't work. My poor kid was so disappointed. Was a dumb mistake to make. Never again.
Yep, I had a similar experience. My parents bought me a refurbished GameStop Xbox 360, for my 14th birthday. Because our original Xbox 360 broke. The console worked for about two weeks, then it broke. Complete waste of a birthday presents. Was so disappointed that my main birthday present that year broke after two weeks. Thankfully, I got a brand new Xbox 360 E that year for Christmas. 4 years later, and my Xbox 360 E still works like brand new; as it did four years ago. Only thing I don't like about the E model Xbox 360 is that it was built out very cheap plastic. Internally, the console is identical to how it was, when I got 4 years ago. Sadly, the exterior is covered in large scratches because of the garbage plastic it was built out of.
@KoivuTheHab Well that's the thing, I haven't put anything on it; except for the controllers. And I've had no more than two on it at the time. I made sure to put the controllers on the glossy side, not the seide with the fan. I just don't think putting controllers on it should scratch it that badly. Still confuses me how it happened, when I haven't done anything to cause the scratches.
@@daed1819 I wouldn't buy a refurbished anything, I only get consoles new if it's still possible. I bought a brand new PS3 500GB this year factory sealed.
I remember when I my friends 3rd 360 failed it was an Black Elite it was only 9 months old from new and he got a RRoD. Sent to MS for repair they sent it to Germany to be fixed, it took 4 weeks to come back but I had to call for him to see where it was. Well when it came back he just bought Command and Conquer 3 and palyed it for about an hour and he got a RRoD even thought it was sent out for repair. I called up and a manager came on the phone when I told him that it RRoD his reply was "What Already" they sent out UPS to pick it up again and they have him 2 free games when it came back. Viva Pinata and Gears of War
This is actually a Kronos motherboard and is very reliable. I don't it was red ring as these board don't have that fault. The smaller GPU is actually perfectly adequate due to the redesigned chip at 65nm. The metal case is used to keep the board straight so the warping is from the bolt mod.
Max Pain exactly why sony a better system never had problems with my ps3 nor my ps4 I always had problems with my Xbox 360 and my Xbox one .,Xbox will soon go out of business like Dreamcast did watch
Ive repaired so many of these, that I know them like the back of my hand. These early 360s are garbage. Ive replaced caps, thermal paste, entire sections of the board, reflowed them, ect. Each one has its own handfull of bullshit. And not a single one has been able to stay fixed for more than a year without more overheating problems. These systems are trash. Its the main driving reason why the ps3 started a massive comeback, and the main reason why I just stopped repairing these headaches.
Really You can really fix xbox 360's Well I could use a little help. My Xbox's disc tray doesn't come out when I press the button. It's like jammed. What do I do?
@@teazy9836 Tap it lightly on the top while pressing the eject button to see if it will make a difference. Most likely the round black little rubber band of the dvd drive needs to be replaced. TH-cam or google around, there are plenty of videos or forums that may help. Good luck!
You spent time repairing these and never had one last longer than a year? Sounds to me like your skills of "repair" aren't as good as you think. Considering my friend repairs these consoles and they last for years.
I feel like I must be really lucky, I've still got mine from launch day. It never red-ringed, the disk tray broke a while ago but I got it fixed. Still play it on occasion to this day.
I still have my OG launch day 360 with its 20 gig hard drive, no HDMI port and shiny silver disk tray that takes a solid wack to open/close it. How in the hell does this thing still work
@@mayowankenobi NES system were actually made properly as compared to the fuck fest that was the 360. I had to return mine 4 times in 2 year and they would give me a completely new one every time (meaning it was irreparable). I wasn't complaining tho because it was cheaper to buy the OG when the model in this video was already out and i had bought a 3 year warranty so i got my moneys worth.
I went to the thrift store a few weeks ago and seen a Xbox 360, PS2, and a Wii and I bought all 3 of em for $20 each and all of it work perfectly. Even though I already had a 360 and two non working PS2's from 2003 but I couldn't help myself it was only 20 bucks.
@@cwatson42785 its a cardboard building set with interactive games and tbh my younger brother loved making his, all of these people shitting on it don't get the concept of kids toys.
Suta Raito lol. not a federal law, and not for electronics. also, warranty stickers have nothing to do with it. not to mention its an entirely unenforceable law. you think electronics manufacturers are going to turn over their schematics? youre delusional.
PrezidentTrump that’s stupid considering most corporations go out of business. The biggest corporation in America can’t even pay their employees a living wage. So the government (which is we the people) has to bail out the people who are working for the most successful business in the country.
@@StinkyBlack1 Magnuson Moss is absolutely a federal law, but it's pretty much never enforced. The FTC bit at electronics makers about a year ago, but we'll see if it actually turns out to mean anything. (Spoiler: almost definitely not.)
I think he did and just didn't show it in the video. He said at some point, that he heared the fans inside going crazy, when he first turned it on and was already expecting the fan mod, when he opened it up. ^^
I remember my family got one of these refurbished Xbox 360 consoles when they were on sale. It lasted for about a month before breaking down. Not a happy sight :c
Getting to all the failed motherboards and servicing parts is just such a great joy on these ..I really do hate the way Microsoft rushed this system out
Both Sony and Microsoft underestimated the cooling they really needed with the launch systems.It's crazy when Sony released a full year later and still had issues.
The 360 had a lot of momentum. Even in Japan, it was picking up a lot of games. The RRoD issue really halted a lot of that, had the system been planned and built better, its possible Xbox would be tops in market share today. Makes me sad.
When you flexed that board I got chills... I built my first PC when I was 14 and I didn't put standoff screws under the motherboard. I just had extra long screws and it flexed just as much if not more that. It luckily lasted me 3 years and when I went to put in the new motherboard I had forgotten I did that and saw the flexing and was just blown away that it had lasted that long.
@Steven Fine Lack of standoffs won't inherently cause a short or fry anything. The material and coating of the case plate can save you where a short would occur and otherwise it depends which areas of the mobo physically touch the plate, if there's raised screw points corresponding to the form factor there's practically no chance of frying but standoffs are still beneficial for other reasons.
@@nguyenbagiap7433 It was (stll is) a nzxt phantom. I dont remember the number (like 410 or 820). I'll make a correction though: Roughly half of the mounting holes require a screw and a nut, and the others require the screw, a nut, and the standoff for the screw to go in due to a gap between the case and the mobo. I didn't use the standoffs (at the time i didnt know they existed). This made the mobo bend and since it turned on I figured it wasnt that big of a deal. Fast forward three years, I saw what I had done and was surprised it had lasted to say the least. So they weren't preinstalled, but they did come with the case. I was just too dumb and impatient to figure it out.
@Demon Orb That's such a small segment of the market though it's barely relevant. The RROD was one of the most publicized covered hardware failures in consumer electronics history. The amount of people unaware later models released fixed the issue is "slim" if anything.
@@thefunder1 someone is gonna be curious always anyways.... im a sony pony and im still a fanboy of the 360... saw one on an internet cafe.. kept touching it and literally wanted to take it home, but alas, my PS4 wont be lonely as fuck cause we have a Wii.. a broken famicom (straight from Japan) and now, im looking forward on the Xbox my Uncle has...
I took apart my 360 slim recently to dust the inside with canned air, and I'm so shocked to see how much they revised the internal hardware between this earlier white model and the one I have!
my brother got us a refurbished system for $60 and sent in his receipt got his $60 back, and the thing has lasted over a year. The only thing we had to do was taking the rubber band out of the disk tray and cleaning it off. Other than that it is a good system.
I bought a refurbished wired ngc controller from an indie shop, they use nunchuk thumbs to rebuild them since they're in higher demand and it's a much nicer thumbstick.
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Game over video games in Austin tx sold me one that died after having it for 10 days and would not exchange it or refund it.
Dont buy anything at game stop i got a xbox one x took it to a game stop selled it they cleaned it up and selled it full price that is so wrong save up and get one at Wal-Mart.
I totally am not surprised, GameStop really scares me and I have yet to step foot inside one of them. I tried finding out about their electronic insurance and they ignored my question, to tell me through email that I can't post questions about it in their help FAQ forum thing.... Wtf, any company that pushes electronic insurance on your Games/Consoles/Hardware and Device should be able to answer questions on the policy! Decided then they were scum, over email no less, then started watching the horror stories about them on TH-cam. This reminds me of taking your car to a shady mechanic, for them to break your car in ways that fail slowly and will cause you to go back for more 'fixing' over time..
@@dogg-paws I didn't go through them after this happened, I was looking into their PSVR headset options/electronic insurance. This was a year ago, I was told to look at them for that by a friend (who no longer shops there BTW), went through the online site for closest store and ended up asking a question about the insurance on the site. They then did the above mentioned response, without even answering my question to them, they just stated I can't ask that on their help forum. Like fuq that shit, you want to offer and push to use insurance advertised with the product though can't explain how it works or just refuse to explain? No thanks, scum company.
GameStop will buy an Xbox 1 for $40 and sell it for $200. The customer never wins when dealing with game stop I honestly have no idea how the company hasn’t went bankrupt. I don’t know who still shops at these places but they’re dumb because every single game stop I’ve been to or heard of is complete shit.
I bought a PS3 slim back in 2010 from a guy at a gas station for $20, got home with it plugged it in and heard a noise coming from the fan. I opened it up and found $72 under the case next to the fan. My guess was that he stole the PS3 from someone to make a quick buck, jokes on him though lol I basically got a PS3 and $52 for free.
ive had a refurbished 360 for about 2 years now and its been loud since day one but i played it a whole summer and even still now every now and then and i havent had a problem
I had the manager at a gamestop tell me how I must have been mistreating my 360 if I had it fail more than once. I think that's MORE to do with the system having a 56% failure rate at one point that MS had to extend it's warranty to 3 years to make people happy since the things were failing left and right. I've never had a console fail on me. PS2 DVD drive got wonky, but a total failure? Only the 360. I dunno about the slim units, I only had the early models and they were trash. All of them. If I didn't have a year long warranty from a store, I wouldn't have had a 360 very long. Shame since I had a few games I wanted to play on it but I'm not about to trust that platform with such an awful system that can't stand up to infrequent use.
Omg I thought I was the only one with 360s fucking up. First 360 I had got red ring my second one was a slim and I was told they fixed the problem with those models. Maybe like 4 months down the line the system started to fuck up, it tried formatting itself and I couldn't even start it up. I eventually gave up on 360s. The fact they could sell these eventually failing consoles is beyond me.
I had my first 360 red ring on me a little over a year after I bought it. Sent it in to Microsoft, and they sent me a new one. Worked fine for about 2 years and then it too Red ringed. Ended up grabbing a slim stupid cheap from a friend of mine’s game shop. That ones still working. Only other system I had fail on me over the years was an original PlayStation.
Back in high school I made a bit of money reflowing these things myself, and it never ceased to amaze me just how badly those things are designed. I always kept a stockpile of the better GPU heatsinks with the extension that came on the Zephyr and Falcon boards so that any time I worked on a Xenon or Jasper board I would put them on, with an extra small fan on that extension. It helped, but it was still garbage.
The Irony is that the Jasper Consoles are the most reliable consoles. Putting a "X-Clamp Fix" in one is a travesty! I've worked on 100s of 360s and i've never seen a jasper get the standard RROD naturally. This console probably had a bad laser and they threw in the fan mod / x-clamp fix. Almost every Jasper I've gotten from Gamestop has had this x-clamp fix installed, None of which actually needed it.
I done hundreds of RGH mods on all compatible 360 models, and the jasper systems I got for GameStop refurbished system got that xclamp fix, i see early 2009 Jasper's with rlod 0100 error with rams modules fried, but never a gpu or CPU bga problem
Ture enough. The 360 Elites were by far the most reliable of the original run. Costly, but damn if it didn't prove that cost= quality in the case of the Xbox 360. Mine did eventually suffer disk drive failure, out of warranty but that wast until Years down the road, just prior to the 360 Slim
yeah the thing that would happen with jaspers were not RROD but something where it would show on error 3xx(forgot the exact number) on screen, which usualy was where the scaler chip got busted. but even then it was a much more reliable piece of hardware than previous xboxes
I would guess that there's a good chance all the systems sent in for refurbishment get all the standard fixes for issues common to that system, regardless of whether or not they need them. It would save time on testing and allow them to standardize the process into something of an assembly line. Plus, it leaves more visible evidence that they've actually done something to the system in the process of refurbishment.
I had a refurbed Jasper that worked a while for me but then failed (still having the X-clamp intact and a higher powered fan mod). I would go back and forth between playing for a few hours and then having to six the RRoD until I would get put off and store it away for months on end.
In about 2011 I bought an Xbox 360 Refurb from my local Gamestop. As I remember the unit was very loud (probably had the above mentioned fan-mod). The xbox worked well though. I even upgraded to the Xbox 360 Elite in about 2013 (so I used the original refurb for about 2 years) and then gave my old xbox to my good friend. My friend used my old xbox for atleast 2-3 years before the disk drive stopped working. Maybe we just got lucky with the one I bought. Believe I paid around $120 or so for the refurb unit at the time.
I'm so happy I don't live in America, we have no Gamestop so if you wanna refurbish your console, you have to take it to a technician. And if you wanna buy games, go to mall shopping or buy it from the only 2 stores we have: Microplay and Weplay. I've never been dissapointed!~
I've been to Gamestop once in my life when I was on vacation and desperately needed a Nintendo DS game for an 8hr car ride. I would never shop there otherwise. I would never trade in either. I don't understand why people would sell their old consoles for $0.43 when they could sell it themselves on Craigslist for $20 and give a stranger a good deal as well.
That’s interesting, it’s pretty rare for a Jasper Unit to have solder joint issues. If anything, I would assume, the previous owner or whomever, had it standing straight up in an open area, and it fell onto its side several times. Etc Reason being, because out of all the original style 360 units, the jasper revision was the one with the least failures.
Jasper is just perfect. I own one from recent time and it's very cold in terms of heat, silence and low temperatures. Is a solid hardware. And unlike xenons if the system detect a rise in temperature (like me before applying new thermal paste) it fast rise up the fan speed.
From what I hear is that reballing is not the actual fix, it's the CPU dye actually losing connection to the substrate in that when you heat the chip up to remove it, it actually weakly reconnects whatever was disconnected between the two, and wasn't actually an issue with the solder balls, it was actually a chip defect.
Just heating up and reseating a BGA component is only ever a temporary fix. It will just break again. -- If you reball it with quality leaded solder it will last a lot longer.
@@madmax2069 that's an odd claim, the wafer shouldn't flex between itself and the dye. The flex should be between the motherboard to the wafer (which is electrically connected via bga).
@@BrainSlugs83 it's not an odd claim, everything expands and contracts when heated and cooled, and each different material has different expansion rates. Oh and it's not a claim, experience and research tells me this. The only time a reflow works is if replacing the chip with a new one.
@@BrainSlugs83 I think you're missing the point here. "flexing" isn't even the issue. The issue is the heat itself. The GPU gets cooked for so long because the fan shroud is designed in such a way that it doesn't pull enough air across the GPU's heatsink. This, in turn, greatly weakens the internals of the GPU which causes the RROD. Something that unfortunately, cannot be fixed. Reballing is temporary, and it isn't even the process of reballing that "fixes" it. It's simply the heating of the chip that temporarily revives it. I really wish the Xbox 360 had a thermal monitor built into it from day one, so we could simply check temperatures on the dashboard. This is what it would probably commonly look like: CPU: 67c / GPU: 98c
I remember my first console I bought, I was young, I got it with the money I saved for months. And it was "Premium Refurbished" didnt last a week without issues and then it had Red Rings. Terrible experience.
I bought a pre owned ps3 in 2013 from GameStop and I have to go back twice cuz there was no controller in the box and no charging cable for the controller. And they tried to charge me for the controller.
Uchenna Obi ....they do that with every product where used is available because they make much less cash if hardly any profit when selling new items. It's upsetting to me how the used items are just a hair cheaper than new so it's crazy they sell so much used. At least w games when used, you can sorta rent them for a week then switch out/return for another title
This is why I just go to Walmart if I want a new console or game. you might live where a bestbuy or target is and those can be even better but I don't have them around me.
Yeah. I didnt really know much about gamestop when i bought my ps4 and why they love selling pre owend first. But now I know . I rather buy new things and support the developers instead of buy preowned and support gamestop.
They kept telling me that the ps4 slim overheats. they freaking made me pay for insurance. I had it for 2 years and it has never overheated. I play it for like 6 hours a day
Falcon and Jasper motherboards are the most reliable boards for the 360 fat model I personally have a 2008 Falcon arcade model and it's working perfectly without any modded fans or bolt mods
I dropped one of my already faulty and broken 360's of one of my old balconys and shattered it and another i just hacked at it with a sledgehammer for the same reason. Which is a shame because 360 has decent games.
Sometimes people start OCD modding because some idiots on the internet have a half baked brain fart. What is bad is when companies adopt those farts as truth. I personally wouldn't write one off because of a harmless fan mod. The x clamps should have been more like socket am2 brackets,or even spring load the screws like in many laptops.
Dont forget the shity support,I cant even connect to xbox live on the new xbox 360 I bought and I'm fucking pissed. Thanks alot shitsoft cuz now I cant use my account
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My family bought a refurbished Wii u from game stop. We ended up getting a disc copy of smash bros brawl for wiI still inside the system and they never reformatted the system so it had splatoon and Wii u smash bros installed for free. Needless to say we came out ahead on that deal.
Ezra Goldfinkelsteinberg how?
SantosMcGriddle, it’s GameStop. That’s how.
@@juandelossantos8777 How? They got BRAWL in it: that's the worst insult and piece of dirt they could possibly ever get. Unless Project M was pre-installed, too.
If people don't obey gun free zone signs why would they obey a do not move while disk is inside label
RedHairdo doesn’t matter a free game is a free game. And maybe the person that bought it likes brawl without the mod.
"Gamestop, taking advantage of single moms and kids since 1999"
I felt disgusting asking poor families to sign up for pre-orders, pro cards, etc.
@@LalienX lmao 😂
@@LalienX the shit people will do for money, eh?
I'm surprised you didn't feel disgusting asking *anyone* to sign up for pre-orders. Particularly these days when the only purpose they serve is tricking you into buying a non-returnable product before you find out that it's a steaming pile of crap that you really wish you hadn't purchased. But at least your boring bug-riddled $90 collector's edition came with a $2 plastic figurine and an exclusive in-game weapon.
@@ripper82 *Ouch* 🤕
When I worked at Gamestop, we would open all refurbished 360's and test them. 7 out of 10 would he dead right out of the box.
That's unsurprising considering GameStop's repair centers don't exactly fix the issue at hand. They basically perform a minor band-aid fix which may work for a few days, a few weeks, maybe a few months if you're lucky, but they weren't longterm fixes. A longterm fix would either be to re-ball the CPU and GPU or just replace the board with a brand new one as a whole.
Why ruin the consoles with dumb repairs?
Gotta love the quality of LBOXes. 😂
@@princegroove All consoles have defects, and they fixed this.
@@aminecraftplayer4067 “””fixed”””
They literally take the systems apart and blow air in them and use parts from broken systems and see if they boot up and then say they are fixed then. Point of reference, personally observed the process.
Oh yeah, I also ran the defective return reports for the company for over 5 years. These had a roughly 40-50% on the later versions of the 360, the very first two versions of the 360 had a much higher defective return rate around 75% is my memory serves me correct. You are better off buying used than GameStop refurbished.
All the telltale signs of a GameStop "repair" done to the console, thanks for spreading the awareness of it! Unfortunate that many people are now seeing videos such as these years after the Xbox 360's peak popularity, but it's equally unfortunate that GameStop is STILL doing this to consoles in 2018.
Didn't you make a gamestop video about the 360's too?
Looks like the GPU has the wrong heatsync as well. That is the first gen GPU heatsync with no copper heat tube and secondary heatsync... It has the newer gen CPU heatsync though. That is definitely a Frankensteined system.
MrMario2011 But we don’t know that all consoles are like this, he could’ve done this himself just to make this video, he’s lied before so who knows
He did.
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Why not buy a slim as they last longer
In my xbox 360 the CPU fan was setup to blow directly into the plastic side. After red ring of death (for overheating)I decided to inspect the inside. After opening it up and noticing the poor cooling design I decided to drill holes into the side of the plastic. I am proud to say that my Xbox 360 is still working after 12+ years of service. Apparently I'm a better engineer than the company out of Waterloo that Microsoft contracted to design the thing.
The biggest problem is that they used the same fans that are in the original Xbox. Newer technology is much more powerful and put out a lot more heat. This was a stupid idea. Plus, they undervoltaged them, so they were only running at about 40% capacity until they were starting to overheat; at that point, the fans finally sped up.
@@C71-m1l The original xbox had a single fan, not a dual fan. Unless you had a rev. 1 which included a tiny fan on the gpu.
@@bryancampbell4604 when I looked up the part number of the fan, it was listed numerous places as being for both the original and 360. They probably listed it wrong then.
same fan different quantity
Pretty sure they designed the One/One S/One X in-house this time around. Which is why they have oversized cooling solutions compared to PS4.
It comes with cardboard? Awesome! Nintendo wants extra money for that
Lol
Roll the seinfeld theme!
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It's yet one more proof of the collaboration between Nintendo and Microsoft!
That was hilarious.
Damn I’ll never forget when My mom bought me a brand new one in 2007 and being so damn happy.
Can’t believe I’m watching this like it’s a relic almost
Funny, I've never seen a 360 taken apart delicately. When mine red-ringed, I used a sledgehammer.
Well,that's because you're a trogoldyte
Good job, that should be done on the xbox one as well
These comments 😂it’s so easy to repair
You should have recorded yourself smashing the thing.
@Poison ._. Xbox 360 was revolutionary but xbox one fell behind the ps4 but they have plans to get ahead
The Gamestop website looks and functions like it was designed around the same time this Xbox 360 was made.
Its funny because they have such an antiquated business model.
@@justinbowman1342 Got that right I was training to be a seasonal temp and the workstation froze up like every 5 mins and I couldn't even finish the damn thing. Ended up not even bothering working for them because the communication with management was so awful. I had been checking up with them regularly to see when I would train more and start working but the Manager wouldn't even really answer me and said I don't know and a few weeks go by and and a friend I would've been working with messages me saying I was scheduled for 10 am earlier that day. I had contacted them 3 days prior and they didn't even give me an idea of when I would start working. This all happened within this week too and was not years ago. I wouldn't recommend trying to work there. I literally was interviewed like beginning of September and was told I would most likely start working mid October then I go train for 1 day at the end of October and then they pull this shit this week.
Stop hating pussies
@@puffyboy5991 I for one love pussies
Oliver White so is the software they use for sales
Premium with a corded controller.....
less input delay>sitting 20 feet from the couch
@@Pharium but tbf, the input delay for legit controllers are so minimal, it's basically irrelevant :p
no running of to buy new batteries or recharge.
@@EthanBradburyVlogs yikes
@@Pharium shut the fuck up bitch
And ppl wonder why Gamestop is probably going away soon...
Game stop isn't going anywhere lol, they hold the largest corner piece on video game, figure, and console sales besides amazom
I've been hearing this for 10 years now. Lol Yet somehow their still around.
@@NeoDFFXIV And yet they're bleeding money so bad they have to resort to converting 80% of each store into selling candy and toys and bullshit. Now they're desperately trying to corner the retro game market to stay relevant.
Yea now 2000 stores are closing 😂😂 fuck game stop
This comment was posted almost a year ago you sure about that?
Gamestop offered me $7.50 in store credit for my cure for Aids.
Wow
Damn I bet the cashier got in trouble for approving that amount. That's top dollar in their book
JAZ THE SAGA your pic killing me.
Are you positive?
Was the cure a bullet or ten bucks worth of gas and a lighter?
Hi there! Gamestop employee here for a good chunk of time... unfortunately.
If you’re gonna buy preowned systems from GS, I would always recommend getting a USED system from the store and not a refurb. They’re different skews in our system since they’re treated differently.
When they’re used, it’s been tested in our stores for all usual notable issues. When it is refurbed, it’s been sent to our warehouse and “fixed” We get complaints a lot when it comes to refurbs, and have to do a lot of returns and exchanges. The company really doesn’t give a hoot about what they’re selling you, even though the employees genuinely want to make sure you’re getting what you pay for.
Also customers have a right to ask the employees to make sure it works at the store, or at least open the box if they want to examine all pieces. Just try not to do that at a busy time when there’s a single employee... (I beg of you)
I digress, sorry the 360 you got was a shitty one. I can’t say I’m surprised but it’s still painful to see when it happens.
Is there any reason why Gamestop would hire non-gamers? Not being pretentious or showing off how big my dick is, but I seem very knowledgeable on games and systems and even have retail experience, yet the Gamestop employees I run into seem to be those extroverted, I don't give a shit about games type of peoplethat GS likes to hire. I even see cute girls working at the store as managers of all people. Seems Gamestop hates having gamers in their stores.
Alan Walkman Because first and foremost GameStop is a business. Always have been and considering they are dying out as people buy things digitally, they need employees that can sell games. Most of their customers are family members who won’t know what’s what and are an easy sell to outgoing people or cute girls that seem to be on their side. A gamer like you or me will tell them if a game is bad and not to buy, GameStop wants the most return on investment and have no cares for customer satisfaction.
It’s better off you don’t work there anyway, it’s a shit working experience and the employees can tell you that. The only gamer employees that are there are the ones who just need the cash and are just selling what they know is garbage to keep their jobs.
Alan Walkman Frankly most gamers probably wouldn’t make for the best gamestop salesman, which is what the job entails. It doesn’t matter how many hours you racked up in Red Dead 2 if you can’t sell a product. And a lot of gamers wouldn’t recommend preordering games like Call of Duty, but that is part of the job.
The GameStop I worked at about 5 years ago now was staffed entirely by gamers - including the females on the staff (we are not arm candy, nor are we ditzy idiots that don't know anything about games, thank you very much). That was a fun crew. Our primary objective was to help ppl find games they wanted to play and our manager fully supported us in that. Sure, there were the spiels we had to give and the memberships and preorder percentages we had to maintain, but we always tried to customize our sales pitches to the customer.
For example, if I had a customer that came in looking for an RPG, I didn't try to pitch CoD or Madden to them, instead I brought up an upcoming RPG that I thought they might like.
I left when they introduced the credit cards. I knew it was a bad idea and that they'd eventually end up including them in our "numbers" that we had to hit every month (despite their insistence that they wouldn't - when I went back about a year later and talked to the ASM, he confirmed that my suspicions were correct). I already hated that they tried to get us to pitch iPods and the stupid phone stuff - although the phone card plans stopped being pushed after they acquired... whatever that store is called.
As of the last time I went to that store, the only one left was Bill - the ASM. Everyone else had ended up leaving for one reason or another. And the ppl that replaced them were all about making sales goals and didn't care one bit about the customers. That's been my experience at my new local GameStop too (I've moved since then). I expected the usual spiels and such, but when the manager tried to tell me that the PSVR had better graphics than Vive or Occulus? That was when I knew I couldn't trust anyone at that store to tell me the truth. All I wanted to know was how much quality would be sacrificed and whether or not the cost differences were worth it. To lie to me outright like that in hopes of getting a sale? Fuck that!
As for GameStop locations with great employees that care and try to take care of their customers? That seems to be luck of the draw from what I've seen. I also wouldn't expect it to always stay that way either. GameStop has high turnover rates for a reason - and it's entirely due to corporate policies (including pay).
@@SadisticSenpai61 I had a similar experience in a UK-based game store (owned by the same people as GameStop), the times when you could actually help a customer find a game that was right for them were great, when you could recommend a title based on what games they enjoyed. Over time though, all these sales targets and being pushed to sell certain titles and store-exclusive editions or preorders really began to wear down on the enjoyment that a lot of us got from it, and pretty much everyone began to leave and be replaced by people who didn't really care what they were selling as long as they met the targets.
The last straw for me came when a customer was looking for an RPG, after chatting I recommended the Witcher 3 (which matched what he wanted, was on sale at the time and a really damn good deal for the price), and the store manager told me off both for recommending a sale title over a full price one, and for taking too long... This was literally the only customer in the shop. Later that day, a kid and his mum came in for GTA5, and I mentioned that the game was 18-rated, which the mum didn't know and decided not to buy it for her 7-ish year old son. I got shouted at by the manager for that, as well. At that point I just quit on the spot.
Ah the Gamestop refurbished 360, the $5 Hot N Ready Pizza of the games world...
That's the most accurate analogy I've ever heard.
But you can't eat it... so it's just a paperweight.
Hey now! No need to insult the $5 Hot N Ready Pizza. Even that's a higher standard than this.
The 5 dollar is not that bad you get a hot pizza for cheap price it may not be as fancy as other pizza place that the price of frozen pizza you do not have to wait 20 minutes for hot pizza
@@brucenadeau1280 I dont mind the Hot N Readys, you just have to make sure to eat it within an hour of buying it cause they dont reheat well.
I bought a used Ps Vita for 160$ from them and they gave me a Vita that went through World War II. It was covered in deep scratches and heaps amount of p*rn on it, the stick was completely unresponsive on the left side. It took them 3 months to get me a refund. I bought one on ebay for cheaper and brand new in the box. NEVER buy a used console from gamestop.
sounds like you got my old vita
Lol. Refurbished my ass. Looks like they threw a bunch of crap in a box, slapped a $40 sticker on it and called it a day.
Mathew Snyder lmao
Premium refurbished to you buddy
I will NEVER buy anything refurbished
Mathew Snyder i mean your not wrong lol
I wouldn't be surprised if working at a refurb place you are forced an mpu (minutes per unit) to complete each one. So you do them as quickly as you can and quality doesn't matter. This is just my theory.
I love...LOVE how it isnt simply a refurbished console. It's a PREMIUM REFURBISHED SYSTEM!
I mean, if it was just refurbished I would pass...BUT PREMIUM????
How can I resist!!!
Spills51 or maybe "good" Refubished than i also dont know if i would do It...
just a marketing term to make customers feel special
@@ILovePancakes24 or to justify cost
In terms of marketing, it's actually probably a pretty solid tactic. Most people who buy these aren't going to open them up, let alone have any idea what they're supposed to be looking at if they do so I'm sure that fancy sounding name is an effective selling point.
the word premium is for the gullible.
Jesus! I remember I was 11 years old trying to open my Xbox to see if I could fix the red ring of death 😂
lmao
This is what they call "Premium"?!
I wonder what non-premium looks like...
𝙸𝚖 𝚜𝚌𝚊𝚛𝚎𝚍....
Thin air
Let me show you.
*Throws Xbox 360 into Bermuda triangle*
There we go.
@@typicalgameenjoyer1302 lol
Nononono, you pay for the "Premium" literally the word.
They probably don't have a warranty sticker on there because it's becoming more common knowledge now that those "WARRANTY VOID IF REMOVED" stickers are actually illegal. Companies can't refuse warranty service just because you opened up a device you own and have every legal right to open.
Shame I cant see if this applies to UK law
Companies will still try to deny services based off stickers being removed unfortunately. It would require taking them to court to make them honor the warranty, which they know the average joe cannot afford. Yes, you still have the right to claim the warranty, but you will often require more money than the system cost in legal fees.
@@awifephnptrrytrw Actually, there's some hope: the FTC is warning many companies that their stickers are illegal, and as a result, some of them are voluntarily discontinuing placing these stickers on new products and are more likely now to honor warranties on products that did have those stickers broken.
Unless it’s a rolls Royce my man, if you even pop the hood open on a rolls Royce, a seal between the hood and grill is broken unless opened by a rolls Royce factory or dealership themself, and you warranty is void just because u wanted to show off your engine. Defff not tryna compare an og xbox 360, just giving an example of a company putting out a fucked up rule that voids a warranty
@@salvatorelanzilotta386 Wow. Refusing warranty service that way sounds pretty illegal. I'm not a lawyer, but I wouldn't give Rolls Royce good odds in court if someone sued over it.
That board must be pretty buff with all that flexing going on.
Weird flex, but ok
So stupid but I LOLd
Sparked quite the laugh I have to say
Feel th burrrrnn...
HA ha
really enjoyed this video. well done
eyyyy its mvg
Ancien regime gamer
I got a premium re furbish PS4 and it's not bad I give it a 8
* *Loud Pacific drive noises in the distance, closing in* *
Hello mvg
Honestly even back in 2009 when I bought my first 360, the general rule of thumb was to not buy it used because of the RROD.
Premium Refurbished is Premium Misleading
Underrated comment love the joke
Pornhub or xbox
r/virginvschad for those interested
Can you put it back together and return it, try again? See if you get another hackjob.
probably if he got a nice one he wouldn't bother to record and upload it on youtube. the title "i got a good console from gamestop and i am happy" wouldn't get many views and subs.
@@SlavomirG normally id say you couldnt but since they forgot to put the sticker on i guess you could lol
@@ghassbomb9910 good thing people never break laws LOL I don't know if it was me you better believe I'd be returning it as they sold me a faulty product however I can't imagine it's worth the hassle
Those stickers are now prohibited in the USA. Never were valid.
_THIS_ is one of the reasons why you have over 151k subs.
And why playeressence hasnt
I love watching him take things apart
@@FallicIdol I also like him smashing things with his hammer
Jonathan did you get a tan ?
Yup I’m subscribed to both but I think spawnwave is better
They don’t have the sticker in case you bring it back and they go “well sir there seems to be no sticker here so obviously you messed with it” and if you explain that there was never a sticker they would say “how would you know unless you opened and messed with it” *triggered*
I’ve bought 5 of those back in the day. 3 are red ringed in my closet still. And every single one came with jacked up controller sticks. They certify the system, NOT its components. And if you try to return the controllers, that’s exactly what they’ll tell you. That was the last time I gave GameStop a dime of my money. I’d rather quit gaming forever than spend anymore money in their store.
Watching a 360 being taken apart brings backs memories...
Had 5 different 360's. 4 died to RoD and one had a faulty GPU (not RoD but weird colors). The last one was out of warranty so a younger me had to open and repair it, which then lasted for a year at least.
I liked the 360 but man was it prone to failure.
@@Wrathful_Scythe I never had an issue with mine at all guess I got lyckky
BloodyHazessr same here. I recently found my Xbox 360 S and it still works
When i bought my gamecube it was $5 which in 2018 was an amazing deal and i had to learn how to take it apart and repair/ solder
@@EVega0611 that's because the old phats are way more prone to red ringing than the slim models/s models
Here's Why A Refurbished* Gamestop Xbox 360 Is A Waste Of Money
frakenstiened*
I had my xbox 360 since the first launch and it still runs great
German Rojo How?
Mine too! Never had issues
Getting my cousins launch-launch 360 soon in April
I've had mine since late 2007 and I've never had a problem. Mine is an arcade With a 120gb hard drive haha I've probably jinxed it now lmao
It’ll get red ring eventually
From a former employee for over 5 years. NEVER EVER buy a refurbished console. Almost everyone I sold always came back.
@tyvek05 lol the video literally shows why NOT to buy refurbished. Removing parts and adding screws for a temp. fix is not new parts haha
@@Codyrosa wow...
Richie Jackson lol wow what?
@tyvek05 Well you can stick wit that, I rather have mine fresh out of the box
@@Codyrosa wow...
I have repaired a few 360s myself. I by no means am a professional but these actually made me scared at how badly they were done.
Yeah, if I remember the shoddy quality of the earlier Xbox 360 consoles was to rush them into the market which is how the whole 'Red Ring of death' appeared and for some reason the future versions never fully recovered from that sting.
You got the Xbox 360 for only $40. I paid around $200 or so at the time. It was also refurbished and I also bought 4-5 games for it for a total of around $250. The unfortunate thing is that the console stopped working around the time that the return date had expired. From that moment on I've never bought a refurbished game console, at least not when it comes to the newer systems. It didn't help that the older Xbox 360 consoles got the infamous RROD, which was due to overheating issues. I finally bought a brand new Xbox 360 Slim back in 2012 and it's been working flawlessly since then. Thanks for the great video. I really appreciate it!
This is why you dont buy anything that says 30 day guarantee... You go for anything 2 years or more, used or new.
You make a very valid point. The Xbox 360 originally came with a 1 year warranty, which was extended to 3 years because of the RROD. At the time, I couldn't get a refurbished PS3 for around $180-$200. My only option was to buy an Xbox 360 and I wanted to experience HD gaming for the first time. Unfortunately, rushing out to buy a refurbished Xbox 360 ended up costing me in the end. It's been a learning lesson since then.
I goy my 360 back in 2007. Halo 3. Gears of war. Cod 4. Etc. Good times.
super unfortunate. I got a referb 360 years and years ago from gamestop and It is still working with slight problems, been playing a lot of skate 3 here lately and even halo 2/halo 4. But, my biggest issue is the wifi card on it only works when it wants to work, and the system will freeze if the wifi goes out while signing in to my account. Luckily, my console is very close to my internet router so I can hard wire it.
@@bryanjordan8876 You have an Xbox 360 slim, right? The old phat ones don't have an internal WiFi. The slims were less likely to fail, so you can't really compare that. The original phat Xboxes failed a lot, I got a few of them broken and I normally tried to get one that hadn't been tampered with, because you never knew what the previous owner had done to it. My first one was a 2008 model that I got new. It got the RROD within two years. Then I got a 2009 model with a defective drive (dead laser), used the laser from my 2008 one to fix that, I still have that one (I think), but I replaced it with a Slim that didn't work due to a defective harddrive (easiest fix ever, didn't even have to open it). Also I still have two (or three?) from 2006, that I got nearly for free around 2012, in non-working condition, they all had really bad xclamp fixes. I didn't want to fix them, but ended up still trying to save them, by putting the mainboards in the oven. Now they work, but they have been collecting dust for atleast four years. They work, so I don't want to throw them away, but I also can't sell them, because there is no way I could tell how long they work, they might fail again within a few days.
Plug it in for the first time and then you get a red ring of death
ikr lol my old ps3 never had any problems
Yeah.
My first console I ever bought with my own money was a 360 from Mejier years ago. It was used, but Mejier told me "there was nothing to worry about." Long story short, I took it home it was already red ringed. Believe it or not, the next day I took it back and the guy right in front of me in line at the return desk also had a used 360, and it too was red ringed. Said fuck it, went to Best Buy, spent an extra $100 and got the elite for twice the memory. Used consoles are shiet.
Why was Mejier selling used Xbox Consoles?
@@knockbitzhd I had one of the first 60gb ps3 backwards compatible for like 2 years before it got the yellow light of death. Warranty replaced it for the 80gb mgs4 bundle and that one took a dump after a few months. I never had good luck with the ps3. My ps4 however is an early release 500gb model and I'm still using it to this day.
If you actually paid for it , then yeah, it's a waste of money. But they have been offering it for free after rebate the past black fridays. If you are lucky enough you get a system you can mod and you get more than your moneys worth which is about the cost of the tax you paid(if any) for it.
I tried dismantling my old 360 elite because dust had gathered behind the power button sensor which would turn it on and off at random times. Without the Microsoft tool.... It's was bad.... real bad... I ended up Ripping the casing off and it took me hours and I cut my hands up on the metal sheet on the inside and got blood all Inside my xbox... to this day if the console heats up alot I can smell burnt blood...
That's metal as fuck
Rad.
What does that smell like?
Yikes...
Lol it was probably auto updating
I bought one of these years ago and it literally failed withing a week, I wish I could have seen this video then, thanks for sharing, you are very knowledgeable.
The 4GB-of-storage 360 with no hard drive was ALWAYS a bad deal.
Always buy the knect seperately, or you get a 4gb model.
I wish my parents knew back in 2010 when they bought the slim model. But i loved it still. And besides the only thing i ever cared about was playing Bad Company 2
Im getting my cousins' abandoned but still working Xbox 360 that has GTA IV... soon, even if i have a PS4
Lol my first and second 360s were both 4gb. The first one was the arcade model and it came with guitar hero 3. The second one was the slim model. Never had a problem with not having a hard drive.
@@johnharrington4757 I knowingly bought the hard drive-less 360 slim in 2011. I mainly just played call of duty black ops so I had no issues. It was back when Sony got hacked and PSN was down for 3 weeks. I was so hooked on Black Ops at the time I took a bunch of PS3 games that I had but didn't play and traded them in for a 360 and a copy of black ops.
Got a refurb 360 and it was crap. Controller hadn't been washed and didn't work. My poor kid was so disappointed. Was a dumb mistake to make. Never again.
Yep, I had a similar experience. My parents bought me a refurbished GameStop Xbox 360, for my 14th birthday. Because our original Xbox 360 broke. The console worked for about two weeks, then it broke. Complete waste of a birthday presents. Was so disappointed that my main birthday present that year broke after two weeks. Thankfully, I got a brand new Xbox 360 E that year for Christmas. 4 years later, and my Xbox 360 E still works like brand new; as it did four years ago. Only thing I don't like about the E model Xbox 360 is that it was built out very cheap plastic. Internally, the console is identical to how it was, when I got 4 years ago. Sadly, the exterior is covered in large scratches because of the garbage plastic it was built out of.
@KoivuTheHab Well that's the thing, I haven't put anything on it; except for the controllers. And I've had no more than two on it at the time. I made sure to put the controllers on the glossy side, not the seide with the fan. I just don't think putting controllers on it should scratch it that badly. Still confuses me how it happened, when I haven't done anything to cause the scratches.
Don’t ever buy a refurbished console for your kid.
Probably more disappointed dad had the gall to get him a 13 year old system
@@daed1819 I wouldn't buy a refurbished anything, I only get consoles new if it's still possible. I bought a brand new PS3 500GB this year factory sealed.
I remember when I my friends 3rd 360 failed it was an Black Elite it was only 9 months old from new and he got a RRoD. Sent to MS for repair they sent it to Germany to be fixed, it took 4 weeks to come back but I had to call for him to see where it was. Well when it came back he just bought Command and Conquer 3 and palyed it for about an hour and he got a RRoD even thought it was sent out for repair. I called up and a manager came on the phone when I told him that it RRoD his reply was "What Already" they sent out UPS to pick it up again and they have him 2 free games when it came back. Viva Pinata and Gears of War
GameStop stops games
Good one
Bad one
GameStop potSemaG
This is actually a Kronos motherboard and is very reliable. I don't it was red ring as these board don't have that fault. The smaller GPU is actually perfectly adequate due to the redesigned chip at 65nm.
The metal case is used to keep the board straight so the warping is from the bolt mod.
Yeah. He pretty much says that at 14:32
Was really looking forward to this, and I loved the GameCube controller video!!
You weren’t kidding when you said we were gonna like these tech waves!
My 360 has issues playing some old xbox games
Max Pain exactly why sony a better system never had problems with my ps3 nor my ps4 I always had problems with my Xbox 360 and my Xbox one .,Xbox will soon go out of business like Dreamcast did watch
Ive repaired so many of these, that I know them like the back of my hand. These early 360s are garbage. Ive replaced caps, thermal paste, entire sections of the board, reflowed them, ect. Each one has its own handfull of bullshit. And not a single one has been able to stay fixed for more than a year without more overheating problems. These systems are trash. Its the main driving reason why the ps3 started a massive comeback, and the main reason why I just stopped repairing these headaches.
Really You can really fix xbox 360's
Well I could use a little help. My Xbox's disc tray doesn't come out when I press the button. It's like jammed. What do I do?
@@teazy9836
Tap it lightly on the top while pressing the eject button to see if it will make a difference. Most likely the round black little rubber band of the dvd drive needs to be replaced. TH-cam or google around, there are plenty of videos or forums that may help. Good luck!
You spent time repairing these and never had one last longer than a year? Sounds to me like your skills of "repair" aren't as good as you think. Considering my friend repairs these consoles and they last for years.
I feel like I must be really lucky, I've still got mine from launch day. It never red-ringed, the disk tray broke a while ago but I got it fixed. Still play it on occasion to this day.
Mine still works to this date, and I have the model with 128mb storage!
I still have my OG launch day 360 with its 20 gig hard drive, no HDMI port and shiny silver disk tray that takes a solid wack to open/close it.
How in the hell does this thing still work
LAZARES I still have my original NES which had an entire Coka Cola poured into it. Still works like a champ!
You should play the lottery
@@mayowankenobi NES system were actually made properly as compared to the fuck fest that was the 360. I had to return mine 4 times in 2 year and they would give me a completely new one every time (meaning it was irreparable). I wasn't complaining tho because it was cheaper to buy the OG when the model in this video was already out and i had bought a 3 year warranty so i got my moneys worth.
I had a piece of wire around my tray I would pull to get it to open. I had an HDMI port... Had being the key word. If i use it now its YRW only.
LAZARES
You are one lucky boy.
I went to the thrift store a few weeks ago and seen a Xbox 360, PS2, and a Wii and I bought all 3 of em for $20 each and all of it work perfectly. Even though I already had a 360 and two non working PS2's from 2003 but I couldn't help myself it was only 20 bucks.
immaculateAMG theft or thrift store
Baby Sapphire lma
Same here. Got ps3 for 20 bucks loaded with games and wii loaded with games for 20$. Overall good deal
@Lee Santos i got it from value village
S Mac doesn't that mean that you're logged into the other persons account?
$40 and u got all that cardboard? Labo really was a rip off.
MDK22420 If people still buying labo then they need see serious help. XD
Labo comes with more cardboard
more cardboard more price ;)
@@kronillix2735 what is labo?
@@cwatson42785 th-cam.com/video/Of9GOMM9HPg/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/P3Bd3HUMkyU/w-d-xo.html
@@cwatson42785 its a cardboard building set with interactive games and tbh my younger brother loved making his, all of these people shitting on it don't get the concept of kids toys.
Warranty stickers on electronics aren't allowed anymore, iirc. Right to repair act.
Suta Raito lol. not a federal law, and not for electronics. also, warranty stickers have nothing to do with it. not to mention its an entirely unenforceable law. you think electronics manufacturers are going to turn over their schematics? youre delusional.
bigstrudel you think corporate rules fix problems, dumb.
Corporations are in most cases more competent in running almost everything than the Government is. Also before I forget, you're dumb.
PrezidentTrump that’s stupid considering most corporations go out of business. The biggest corporation in America can’t even pay their employees a living wage. So the government (which is we the people) has to bail out the people who are working for the most successful business in the country.
@@StinkyBlack1 Magnuson Moss is absolutely a federal law, but it's pretty much never enforced. The FTC bit at electronics makers about a year ago, but we'll see if it actually turns out to mean anything. (Spoiler: almost definitely not.)
Weird board flex, but ok.
Weird flex, not ok*
Kyle Smith r/woooosh
PICT[/.\]CHAT what makes you think he didn't get the joke?
@@SamuelMK_ board flex is not ok
@@Mashamazzi weird board flex, not ok
Would've thought you'd at least power it up first just to make sure it does actually work
I think he did and just didn't show it in the video. He said at some point, that he heared the fans inside going crazy, when he first turned it on and was already expecting the fan mod, when he opened it up. ^^
@@Mi-ht2co It's not a proof, he has it out of the box as if it was the first time and he would like us to trust him for the rest ... I have doubts!
11:16 that board actually looks like a small scale city
Tron
Like... all motherboards in existence?
Oh yeah
I remember my family got one of these refurbished Xbox 360 consoles when they were on sale. It lasted for about a month before breaking down. Not a happy sight :c
Getting to all the failed motherboards and servicing parts is just such a great joy on these ..I really do hate the way Microsoft rushed this system out
Both Sony and Microsoft underestimated the cooling they really needed with the launch systems.It's crazy when Sony released a full year later and still had issues.
The 360 had a lot of momentum. Even in Japan, it was picking up a lot of games. The RRoD issue really halted a lot of that, had the system been planned and built better, its possible Xbox would be tops in market share today. Makes me sad.
@@cyphaborg6598 The Great Flip Chip Plague of the mid 2000's.
Watching this made me miss the days of 360.
When you flexed that board I got chills... I built my first PC when I was 14 and I didn't put standoff screws under the motherboard. I just had extra long screws and it flexed just as much if not more that. It luckily lasted me 3 years and when I went to put in the new motherboard I had forgotten I did that and saw the flexing and was just blown away that it had lasted that long.
@Steven Fine Lack of standoffs won't inherently cause a short or fry anything. The material and coating of the case plate can save you where a short would occur and otherwise it depends which areas of the mobo physically touch the plate, if there's raised screw points corresponding to the form factor there's practically no chance of frying but standoffs are still beneficial for other reasons.
Was those old case models has no stand offs? The new one usually come with 3-4 pre-installed in the case.
@@nguyenbagiap7433 It was (stll is) a nzxt phantom. I dont remember the number (like 410 or 820). I'll make a correction though: Roughly half of the mounting holes require a screw and a nut, and the others require the screw, a nut, and the standoff for the screw to go in due to a gap between the case and the mobo. I didn't use the standoffs (at the time i didnt know they existed). This made the mobo bend and since it turned on I figured it wasnt that big of a deal. Fast forward three years, I saw what I had done and was surprised it had lasted to say the least.
So they weren't preinstalled, but they did come with the case. I was just too dumb and impatient to figure it out.
What a clown!🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Why anyone would buy one of these and not the slim redesign is beyond me.
@Demon Orb That's such a small segment of the market though it's barely relevant. The RROD was one of the most publicized covered hardware failures in consumer electronics history. The amount of people unaware later models released fixed the issue is "slim" if anything.
Had a red ring after like a year or so, bought another one and it is still going strong. That’s like 8 years now. Finally gonna upgrade to a PS4
Kevin De Smet No
Ps4 ? Traitor
@@thefunder1 someone is gonna be curious always anyways.... im a sony pony and im still a fanboy of the 360... saw one on an internet cafe.. kept touching it and literally wanted to take it home, but alas, my PS4 wont be lonely as fuck cause we have a Wii.. a broken famicom (straight from Japan) and now, im looking forward on the Xbox my Uncle has...
@@thefunder1 People buy what is better not the same line of systems for their whole life
Was just kidding
I took apart my 360 slim recently to dust the inside with canned air, and I'm so shocked to see how much they revised the internal hardware between this earlier white model and the one I have!
my brother got us a refurbished system for $60 and sent in his receipt got his $60 back, and the thing has lasted over a year. The only thing we had to do was taking the rubber band out of the disk tray and cleaning it off. Other than that it is a good system.
Indie shops have much higher quality refurbs.
Or do they??
Suta Raito my Microsoft refurbished has been going for about 8 years now
I bought a refurbished wired ngc controller from an indie shop, they use nunchuk thumbs to rebuild them since they're in higher demand and it's a much nicer thumbstick.
Game over video games in Austin tx sold me one that died after having it for 10 days and would not exchange it or refund it.
My 360 is from 2008 and im still using it
When I worked there in the late 1990's we barely tested the machines if we even tried to test them at all. BUYER BEWARE.
Dont buy anything at game stop i got a xbox one x took it to a game stop selled it they cleaned it up and selled it full price that is so wrong save up and get one at Wal-Mart.
I know everybody case is different. But I got my refurbished 360 in 2011, and it is still running strong!
Was it from gamestop?
@@windostar2622 Yes
MAKEOUTHILL not only that $10 for a 2 year exchange
I bought 3 to 4 years ago and it's still running good no problems. It is the xbox 360 S
Mine to. Only my disc tray jams alot.
I totally am not surprised, GameStop really scares me and I have yet to step foot inside one of them. I tried finding out about their electronic insurance and they ignored my question, to tell me through email that I can't post questions about it in their help FAQ forum thing.... Wtf, any company that pushes electronic insurance on your Games/Consoles/Hardware and Device should be able to answer questions on the policy!
Decided then they were scum, over email no less, then started watching the horror stories about them on TH-cam.
This reminds me of taking your car to a shady mechanic, for them to break your car in ways that fail slowly and will cause you to go back for more 'fixing' over time..
Ever thought of filing a lawsuit against them?
Gamestop isn't all that bad when it comes to actual games but the rest of the stuff is a gamble.
@@dogg-paws
I didn't go through them after this happened, I was looking into their PSVR headset options/electronic insurance. This was a year ago, I was told to look at them for that by a friend (who no longer shops there BTW), went through the online site for closest store and ended up asking a question about the insurance on the site.
They then did the above mentioned response, without even answering my question to them, they just stated I can't ask that on their help forum. Like fuq that shit, you want to offer and push to use insurance advertised with the product though can't explain how it works or just refuse to explain?
No thanks, scum company.
@@SierraHerb its called normal wear and tear on your car I bet you think everyone's are you ya paranoid b****
GameStop will buy an Xbox 1 for $40 and sell it for $200. The customer never wins when dealing with game stop I honestly have no idea how the company hasn’t went bankrupt. I don’t know who still shops at these places but they’re dumb because every single game stop I’ve been to or heard of is complete shit.
Premium Rubish
Rubbish = asian
Todoroki?
@@hangingjontron818 Asian girl= No rubber
@@hangingjontron818 We meet again.
Todoroki 😁
I got my Xbox 360 for 40 bucks. Still works perfectly. Might play it soon
Same experience
That’s ok
I look forward to a future skit of you taking a hammer to this.
...and this is why you don't shop at GameStop.
xxianoob whats wrong with used products lmao
Also why you don't buy Apple.
Defensive Wounds what does any of this have to do with Apple?
@El-ahrairah he provided proper evidence as to why these refurbs can be very bad. You did not. Who do you think I believe?
@xxianoob when it comes to used consoles the pawn shop is the way to go
All refurbished consoles are not really ideal never know whats happened to them, i dont trust previous owners at all.
I bought a PS3 slim back in 2010 from a guy at a gas station for $20, got home with it plugged it in and heard a noise coming from the fan. I opened it up and found $72 under the case next to the fan. My guess was that he stole the PS3 from someone to make a quick buck, jokes on him though lol I basically got a PS3 and $52 for free.
@@heyassbut8199 And my dad is the CEO of Apple
@@Milk-hb5ve well I pity you.
This keeps on showing up on my recommendation feed.
ive had a refurbished 360 for about 2 years now and its been loud since day one but i played it a whole summer and even still now every now and then and i havent had a problem
Watch Spawnwave take this Xbox 360 off of life support. RIP Xbox 360, you beautiful mess.
Refurbished Wave
Only game I ever preordered was resident evil 6 and never picked it up out of laziness...
Best decision ever lmao
Even I could refurb better then that and I've just started fixing consoles
0westdude hell I’ve never even fixed anything and I could still do better
I had the manager at a gamestop tell me how I must have been mistreating my 360 if I had it fail more than once. I think that's MORE to do with the system having a 56% failure rate at one point that MS had to extend it's warranty to 3 years to make people happy since the things were failing left and right. I've never had a console fail on me. PS2 DVD drive got wonky, but a total failure? Only the 360.
I dunno about the slim units, I only had the early models and they were trash. All of them. If I didn't have a year long warranty from a store, I wouldn't have had a 360 very long.
Shame since I had a few games I wanted to play on it but I'm not about to trust that platform with such an awful system that can't stand up to infrequent use.
Omg I thought I was the only one with 360s fucking up. First 360 I had got red ring my second one was a slim and I was told they fixed the problem with those models. Maybe like 4 months down the line the system started to fuck up, it tried formatting itself and I couldn't even start it up. I eventually gave up on 360s. The fact they could sell these eventually failing consoles is beyond me.
Another PS2 owner that had their Xbox 360 act up? Yay
im just glad I never came across these issues with console or handhelds, in my 18 years of gaming.
I had my first 360 red ring on me a little over a year after I bought it. Sent it in to Microsoft, and they sent me a new one. Worked fine for about 2 years and then it too Red ringed. Ended up grabbing a slim stupid cheap from a friend of mine’s game shop. That ones still working. Only other system I had fail on me over the years was an original PlayStation.
Lmao I couldn't believe it when my xbox got the red rings. I had it for less a year, I only had it to play elder scrolls but still.
Back in high school I made a bit of money reflowing these things myself, and it never ceased to amaze me just how badly those things are designed. I always kept a stockpile of the better GPU heatsinks with the extension that came on the Zephyr and Falcon boards so that any time I worked on a Xenon or Jasper board I would put them on, with an extra small fan on that extension. It helped, but it was still garbage.
You are garbage. Jasper are just perfect. Runs cold and silent.
You know your golden when you take a fat 360 apart and it has the good heatsinks!
This man singlehandedly keeps GameStop afloat
The Irony is that the Jasper Consoles are the most reliable consoles. Putting a "X-Clamp Fix" in one is a travesty! I've worked on 100s of 360s and i've never seen a jasper get the standard RROD naturally. This console probably had a bad laser and they threw in the fan mod / x-clamp fix. Almost every Jasper I've gotten from Gamestop has had this x-clamp fix installed, None of which actually needed it.
I done hundreds of RGH mods on all compatible 360 models, and the jasper systems I got for GameStop refurbished system got that xclamp fix, i see early 2009 Jasper's with rlod 0100 error with rams modules fried, but never a gpu or CPU bga problem
Ture enough. The 360 Elites were by far the most reliable of the original run. Costly, but damn if it didn't prove that cost= quality in the case of the Xbox 360. Mine did eventually suffer disk drive failure, out of warranty but that wast until Years down the road, just prior to the 360 Slim
yeah the thing that would happen with jaspers were not RROD but something where it would show on error 3xx(forgot the exact number) on screen, which usualy was where the scaler chip got busted. but even then it was a much more reliable piece of hardware than previous xboxes
I would guess that there's a good chance all the systems sent in for refurbishment get all the standard fixes for issues common to that system, regardless of whether or not they need them. It would save time on testing and allow them to standardize the process into something of an assembly line. Plus, it leaves more visible evidence that they've actually done something to the system in the process of refurbishment.
I had a refurbed Jasper that worked a while for me but then failed (still having the X-clamp intact and a higher powered fan mod). I would go back and forth between playing for a few hours and then having to six the RRoD until I would get put off and store it away for months on end.
Game Stop and their cheap things to get people's money. 🤦♂️
In about 2011 I bought an Xbox 360 Refurb from my local Gamestop. As I remember the unit was very loud (probably had the above mentioned fan-mod). The xbox worked well though. I even upgraded to the Xbox 360 Elite in about 2013 (so I used the original refurb for about 2 years) and then gave my old xbox to my good friend. My friend used my old xbox for atleast 2-3 years before the disk drive stopped working. Maybe we just got lucky with the one I bought. Believe I paid around $120 or so for the refurb unit at the time.
That's basically the reason why I don't use my 360 no more
Noice
I'm so happy I don't live in America, we have no Gamestop so if you wanna refurbish your console, you have to take it to a technician.
And if you wanna buy games, go to mall shopping or buy it from the only 2 stores we have: Microplay and Weplay. I've never been dissapointed!~
"This is a certified premium refurbished Xbox 360 from Gamestop" Well there's your problem!
I haven't been to a GameStop in years. I download all my games.
they mostly sell plush toys, cups & mugs, t-shirts and other knick-nacks. Games comes second.
I've been to Gamestop once in my life when I was on vacation and desperately needed a Nintendo DS game for an 8hr car ride.
I would never shop there otherwise. I would never trade in either.
I don't understand why people would sell their old consoles for $0.43 when they could sell it themselves on Craigslist for $20 and give a stranger a good deal as well.
Thank you spawn wave. Very cool
That’s interesting, it’s pretty rare for a Jasper Unit to have solder joint issues. If anything, I would assume, the previous owner or whomever, had it standing straight up in an open area, and it fell onto its side several times. Etc
Reason being, because out of all the original style 360 units, the jasper revision was the one with the least failures.
Jasper is just perfect. I own one from recent time and it's very cold in terms of heat, silence and low temperatures. Is a solid hardware. And unlike xenons if the system detect a rise in temperature (like me before applying new thermal paste) it fast rise up the fan speed.
It was never broken. Gamestop does this to almost every phat regardless of model. I mean it's probably broken now because of that stupid mod
A second hand store where I live sells them without hard drives and they are mostly banned consoles
From what I hear is that reballing is not the actual fix, it's the CPU dye actually losing connection to the substrate in that when you heat the chip up to remove it, it actually weakly reconnects whatever was disconnected between the two, and wasn't actually an issue with the solder balls, it was actually a chip defect.
Just heating up and reseating a BGA component is only ever a temporary fix. It will just break again. -- If you reball it with quality leaded solder it will last a lot longer.
@@BrainSlugs83 that's not what's going on, the issue is in between the core/wafer/dye and the substrate, it was never an issue with the balls.
@@madmax2069 that's an odd claim, the wafer shouldn't flex between itself and the dye. The flex should be between the motherboard to the wafer (which is electrically connected via bga).
@@BrainSlugs83 it's not an odd claim, everything expands and contracts when heated and cooled, and each different material has different expansion rates. Oh and it's not a claim, experience and research tells me this. The only time a reflow works is if replacing the chip with a new one.
@@BrainSlugs83 I think you're missing the point here. "flexing" isn't even the issue. The issue is the heat itself. The GPU gets cooked for so long because the fan shroud is designed in such a way that it doesn't pull enough air across the GPU's heatsink. This, in turn, greatly weakens the internals of the GPU which causes the RROD. Something that unfortunately, cannot be fixed. Reballing is temporary, and it isn't even the process of reballing that "fixes" it. It's simply the heating of the chip that temporarily revives it.
I really wish the Xbox 360 had a thermal monitor built into it from day one, so we could simply check temperatures on the dashboard.
This is what it would probably commonly look like:
CPU: 67c / GPU: 98c
0:45 voicecrack
Got my laugh, time to go to the next video
GAMes there getting
I remember my first console I bought, I was young, I got it with the money I saved for months. And it was "Premium Refurbished" didnt last a week without issues and then it had Red Rings. Terrible experience.
I can concur my red ring system did die again after 6months of use refurbishment. Had it refurbished with Asurion.
J Dog terrible company!
I bought a pre owned ps3 in 2013 from GameStop and I have to go back twice cuz there was no controller in the box and no charging cable for the controller. And they tried to charge me for the controller.
Why didn't you get them to check that stuff before you bought it. Even just to see the condition of the ps3
It was a surprise from my mom. I had no idea she bought it until we left. I was looking at p24 games the whole time we were there.
why a ps3 in 2013
I like to even have the cashier open the game/box to make sure everything is kosher-can't go wrong
William Mills I bought one in 2018, the games are still great and cheap that's why.
I bought my PS4 from gamestop and they where trying to convince my to buy a refurbished one. I'm so happy i went with the brand new one
Uchenna Obi ....they do that with every product where used is available because they make much less cash if hardly any profit when selling new items. It's upsetting to me how the used items are just a hair cheaper than new so it's crazy they sell so much used. At least w games when used, you can sorta rent them for a week then switch out/return for another title
This is why I just go to Walmart if I want a new console or game.
you might live where a bestbuy or target is and those can be even better but I don't have them around me.
Yeah. I didnt really know much about gamestop when i bought my ps4 and why they love selling pre owend first. But now I know . I rather buy new things and support the developers instead of buy preowned and support gamestop.
They kept telling me that the ps4 slim overheats. they freaking made me pay for insurance. I had it for 2 years and it has never overheated. I play it for like 6 hours a day
Falcon and Jasper motherboards are the most reliable boards for the 360 fat model
I personally have a 2008 Falcon arcade model and it's working perfectly without any modded fans or bolt mods
*GAMESTOP would like to know your location*
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WHO ELSE WAS JUST WAITING FOR HIM TO SWIPE IT OFF THE TABLE ON THE FLOOR? LOL
@Derpaherp 🤣🤣🤣
Yes . Game stop gets people messed up. Atleast we know what to lookout for now! Lol . Not like i plan on buying a 360 . Lol but neaver know
I dropped one of my already faulty and broken 360's of one of my old balconys and shattered it and another i just hacked at it with a sledgehammer for the same reason. Which is a shame because 360 has decent games.
I would have brought it back to gamestop apart in a bag... "here, you can have it back".
Sometimes people start OCD modding because some idiots on the internet have a half baked brain fart. What is bad is when companies adopt those farts as truth. I personally wouldn't write one off because of a harmless fan mod. The x clamps should have been more like socket am2 brackets,or even spring load the screws like in many laptops.
The poor Xbox 360...
It’s one of the best consoles on the planet, yet it’s the worst internally designed system to have ever been made...
Red ring of death: *I'm about to end this man's gaming experience*
Dont forget the shity support,I cant even connect to xbox live on the new xbox 360 I bought and I'm fucking pissed. Thanks alot shitsoft cuz now I cant use my account