How GOOD was EVERY Starter ACTUALLY? - Starter Pokemon Tier List - Singles

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  • We ranked EVERY Starter's final evolution based on the tiers they have been over the past 9 generations!
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  • @TheNuts1225
    @TheNuts1225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4527

    As a meganium fan, I can honestly tell you I saw that placement from a mile away. Meganium will get its day sooner or later.

    • @MrDeflador
      @MrDeflador 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

      Call it Mr. Stake and it cant be killed in a nuzlock

    • @isaacthered
      @isaacthered 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

      Chikorita is pretty good in Mystery Dungeon at least.

    • @vaporterra
      @vaporterra 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +101

      This won’t stop us from using Meganium in game while building a strong team to support

    • @CursedGaming31
      @CursedGaming31 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

      It got Knock off, Trailblaze, Solar Blade, Zen Headbutt, Body Press, Grassy Glide, Encore and Endeavor in the DLC now. Won't mend it's stats but movepool-Wise it's much, much better now.
      It has Swords Dance already, maybe it's not as garbage in lower tiers now.

    • @nolanevans7603
      @nolanevans7603 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      In the fanfare Radical Red its great, with an ability giving priority to healing moves like giga Drain and the Fairy typing

  • @dork4202
    @dork4202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1545

    My personal buff for meganium would be to change it to a fire fighting type, give it the speed boost ability, and change its name to Blaziken

    • @zkdelta8014
      @zkdelta8014 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +140

      Cool, now you got a Blaziken with Meganium's move pool.

    • @mgeezylaslo7054
      @mgeezylaslo7054 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      no just switch its special defense stat with its HP and give meganium spore, sleep powder or thunder wave

    • @dork4202
      @dork4202 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Cool, now you got a blaziken with meganium's movepool"-🤓@@zkdelta8014

    • @saikatkar4452
      @saikatkar4452 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      After years of ridicule, Meganium just needs a broken Hidden Ability or Signature move that turns things around for it. There's still a lot of broken Pokemon after 9 generations. I wouldn't mind them buffing Meganium to an extreme extent. Mons like Pidgeot and Meganium look so cool but are so insanely average that it's almost disheartening.

    • @Quentinthemudkip
      @Quentinthemudkip 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@saikatkar4452I feel you, I’m a typhlosion fan😅

  • @matthewesposito6973
    @matthewesposito6973 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2745

    If this was on doubles, incineroar would need its own tier

    • @stylevstar253
      @stylevstar253 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +350

      Video*

    • @theschnozzler
      @theschnozzler 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +339

      ​@@stylevstar253*feature-length film

    • @unaffectedbycardeffects9152
      @unaffectedbycardeffects9152 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +230

      @@theschnozzler *12 40 min long episodes series

    • @MidoseitoAkage
      @MidoseitoAkage 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

      The VGC westling cat tier

    • @Lakanus
      @Lakanus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

      two tiers above any other starter

  • @amateraceon5202
    @amateraceon5202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1199

    Typhlosion is an incredible cleaner who gets to spam Eruption and even got a new Hisuian form
    Feraligatr presses Swords Dance once and destroys everything with Sheer Force Liquidation, second only to Crawdaunt as a physical Water destroyer
    And Meganium… was on the box art of New Pokémon Snap

    • @bomoose
      @bomoose 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      game freak hate meganium, he's also the best starter in hgss nuzlockes

    • @ravinercf
      @ravinercf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      ​@@bomoose tô make the game harder right? I love the guy but it's matchs up into the major fights is by far the worst match up spread a starter has had in any main line pokemon game. Grass is so bad in gen 2 it is just sad

    • @potatoman2580
      @potatoman2580 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      ​@bomoose most incorrect thing ever stated, meganuim is garbage every time it appears in the series

    • @DiabloTommaso
      @DiabloTommaso 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It has dat! Been in a cover is Nice 😂

    • @hanscaniagochan8448
      @hanscaniagochan8448 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@bomoosethe only thing it has going is being good at post game IN pokemon Mystery dungeon game so there's that

  • @bluebaron6811
    @bluebaron6811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2767

    Guys, Incineroar gained Helping Hand in Gen 9.
    Doubles is just as dead as Singles.

    • @sephiross6438
      @sephiross6438 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

      Oh no..

    • @General_C
      @General_C 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +271

      ALOLA PRIDE BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

    • @ddraven3180
      @ddraven3180 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +321

      Hahaha yes, anything to make people rage even further. Heel cat gonna drink them tears and keep on trucking in VGC

    • @Kuesoth
      @Kuesoth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      HELL YEAH!!!

    • @DoinkDeetus
      @DoinkDeetus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      LMAO

  • @jacksonparker6983
    @jacksonparker6983 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +894

    Let the record show that Skeledirge is currently in OU again!

    • @banriswirl6414
      @banriswirl6414 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +105

      Skeledirge is easily A tier in a future version of this video and likely S tier.

    • @tyim5593
      @tyim5593 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Skeledirge is definetely one of the most interesting starters, because it was a top 10 ubers pokemon while sitting in a UU tier​@@banriswirl6414

    • @tytar2132
      @tytar2132 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      @@banriswirl6414bro top 10 Ubers

    • @mimmikyute
      @mimmikyute 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I didn’t know he was that good until this video! I knew it was in Ubers but damn! I don’t even have a switch to play gen 9 on and Dirge is becoming one of my favourite starters; killer design both looks and mechanics!

    • @jacksonparker6983
      @jacksonparker6983 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@mimmikyute dirge also just got some great fairy coverage and scorching sands with the new dlc!

  • @donkassadin2014
    @donkassadin2014 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1266

    Never forget the leader of an entire archetype of starters. Blaziken we salute you.

    • @iss2075
      @iss2075 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +119

      Infernape (and then Speed Boost) was basically Game Freak going "Man, we should have given Blaziken a higher speed". I still don't know what they were thinking with Emboar. Everybody was so shocked when we found out about it.

    • @h0m3st4r
      @h0m3st4r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Uber tier starters?

    • @mimmikyute
      @mimmikyute 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      It was the first fire/fighting 😂

    • @cristhianmlr
      @cristhianmlr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I don't. So many people thought it was an insta win PKMN they didn't knew how to use it properly and barely did any damage despite being an "Uber" threat.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​@@iss2075The fire-fighting starters were almost certainly about the first gyms always being Rock type. Charmander was given metal claw in FR/LG for a similar reason.
      And for Gen V specifically, I would wager a lot of money that the team designing the pokemon were assuming the rock gym when Emboar was designed.

  • @vicctretamaj7289
    @vicctretamaj7289 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +673

    I know Incineroar ain’t gonna be at the top since this is singles focused, but I expect a full video to go into is VGC dominance one day🔥

    • @mimmikyute
      @mimmikyute 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      I’ve been mostly following doubles and vgc lately so even though I was expecting Roar’s placement here it still somehow surprised me :P

    • @angle2703
      @angle2703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

      Incineroar in singles: Normal Pokémon in NU, even moved up to PU.
      Incineroar in doubles: Has won every format they’ve been allowed in, insane usage numbers. Arguably the best VGC Pokémon ever. Incineroar is like the US military of doubles

    • @sebarsht12
      @sebarsht12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I predict a VGC version of this video may have for S-rank
      Incinaroar; Rilaboom and Charizard

    • @vicctretamaj7289
      @vicctretamaj7289 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@sebarsht12 Zard is prob A tier

    • @TalkingVidya
      @TalkingVidya 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@angle2703 Like, he was number 1 in usage in a generation with legal Zacian!

  • @GoldStorm07
    @GoldStorm07 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +312

    The other week I was imagining if Hyper Beam retained its Gen 1 mechanics and as a result, the elemental variants exclusive to the starters would have been scary competitive options. There's a hint of that alternate timeline in Eruption Typhlosion.

    • @TheWizardMus
      @TheWizardMus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Picturing Sub Sunny Day Peteya Berry Blast Burn Charizard being able to keep pushing the button after OHKOing Swampert

    • @Eroil
      @Eroil 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Bkc (writer for this channel) actually made a video about it if you're interested

    • @theserpent8667
      @theserpent8667 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@TheWizardMusNow that's a cool scenario. Why do I imagine Alain doing this?

    • @TheWizardMus
      @TheWizardMus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@theserpent8667 it happened it Jimothy Cool's Gen 3 OU ADV Revival tournament and it was so cool

    • @Skullhawk13
      @Skullhawk13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It really should work that way. Otherwise why use it at all

  • @RealBeastBoy007
    @RealBeastBoy007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +674

    Alright guys lets remember, +1 on 103 base special attack and 122 speed is shockingly broken with insane STAB types and life orb

    • @SJtheMFZB
      @SJtheMFZB 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      And Hisui-Eye gets the upperhand in the lower tiers against Krook, Wo-Chien, and, uh, Tyranitar, which even gets Knock Off now. 😅 (If you think I'm fucking about on this one, just look at the OU list. Great Tusk, IVal, Ting-Lu and friends with zero Pursuit. He's become shockingly adept at inviting the opponent to win, so now he's a feather in the cap of E-tiers among E-tiers. :/)

    • @RealBeastBoy007
      @RealBeastBoy007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

      @@SJtheMFZB Gen 9 competitive is interesting but in all the wrong ways

    • @1peidu
      @1peidu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      and it's still markedly worse than Agren since +1 103 with a life orb is barely stronger than specs 153

    • @insertnamehere658
      @insertnamehere658 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@1peidu if it's strong enough to stay in teal mask ou, it's still doing something right.

    • @1peidu
      @1peidu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@insertnamehere658 Agren would end up banned instead of just staying in OU mate, since iirc reg gren is mostly used as a cleaner on rain. Agren can use rain cleaner sets but in Gen 9 if it wanted to it could SD Tera electric and smoke its usual checks. People forget this is as strong as Lando T. Reg gren can't pull that off even with battle bond.

  • @Malisteen
    @Malisteen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    seeing clips from various gens back to back really highlights how much better the sprites of g4 and g5 were than the 3d stuff we've been stuck with ever since.

  • @rubiconprime1429
    @rubiconprime1429 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +293

    Gotta love how from Gen 4 to 5 Blaziken when from worse infernape to better infernape

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      I mean that was just due to speed boost if it didn't get that ability the powercreep would have dropped it to mid tier RU

    • @rubiconprime1429
      @rubiconprime1429 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@laxusstrauss5945 yep, but the point still stands

    • @Alastordadeer
      @Alastordadeer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rubiconprime1429yeah until it’s mega came in

    • @NightmareZerogbs
      @NightmareZerogbs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Better STARTER, period xD

    • @Tungdil_01
      @Tungdil_01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@NightmareZerogbs until Cinderace appears :(

  • @aetius254
    @aetius254 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    I'm just glad that my boy Sceptile got to C tier, and I'm pretty sure everybody saw Meganium's placement coming a mile away

    • @jjgriffiniv1307
      @jjgriffiniv1307 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My boy Sceptile deserves at least B, boy is a dragon type too she. In mega form!

    • @InsaneGarrison25
      @InsaneGarrison25 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jjgriffiniv1307 The problem is that it’s a mega. Mega Sceptile would be incredible if it could use held items and learn Draco Meteor but it unfortunately can’t

    • @Charleyyy678
      @Charleyyy678 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t really care that much about Sceptile, but I do like Meganium

  • @paopaothesiopao995
    @paopaothesiopao995 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Mudkip was the Pokemon I picked in the my first Pokemon game (Ruby Version). I’m glad to see Swampert placed high on the list. I’ve always loved how reliable it is.

    • @dramaticScar
      @dramaticScar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Swear… I tested this… but it’s the only Hoenn Starter to make gen 3 battle frontier a bit easier

    • @RandomHans
      @RandomHans 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@dramaticScar one weakness, high bulk, amazing offensive typings go brrrrr

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +179

    So glad my boy Serperior is in A tier. Spamming contrary leaf storm is so much fun

    • @Charleyyy678
      @Charleyyy678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Agreed

    • @joonas394
      @joonas394 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      After whole Gen 8 absence, Serperior returned stronger than ever with Stellar Contrary Tera Blast

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Really wish he had Draco Meteor too as a bona-fide special Move Tutor. He does look a _bit_ like a Dragon, like a Grassy Dragonair.

    • @Alastordadeer
      @Alastordadeer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It’s also a good sub leech seed user

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We do not refer to Pokemon as a boy or a girl.

  • @GWFanSoftcoreBrony
    @GWFanSoftcoreBrony 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    Poor Meganium. It looks like they at least gave it Body Press as something interesting but as far as I can tell so far, the only way it can raise its defense is with Curse or an uncommon random boost from Ancient Power.

    • @Cobalt957
      @Cobalt957 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      It also has knock off so it can also force progress which is a pretty nice thing to have

    • @benjaminh.5690
      @benjaminh.5690 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Encore is another funny move it got. That plus Tera Fighting Body Press make it a (really bad) check to Kingambit. I wish my baby had gotten a new HA as well but it didn’t.

    • @Origin-vb4iu
      @Origin-vb4iu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Cobalt957 nice thing to have if u live a hit , yeah not happening with that miserable speed stat and grass typing..

    • @maxf_03
      @maxf_03 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eviolite Bayleef is surprisingly tanky. With the 50% boost it has 120 base in both defences and it has an okay base 60hp. It can stall pretty well with leech seed, protect and synthesis. Plus you can catch alot of super effective hits off guard now with tera rock.

    • @netweed09
      @netweed09 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fella, some Pokémon are just never meant for the Fight. Leave it be and let it continue with World Pollination.

  • @mvjbass9561
    @mvjbass9561 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    I know it's not official, but I feel like Mega-Blastoise being banned in Gen 9 NatDex should be mentioned. It's a shame that it gained Shell Smash as it lost its Mega.

    • @aquinoima
      @aquinoima 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Free my boy Blastoise

    • @Forged4War206
      @Forged4War206 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's not just an unofficial tier, it's a make believe meta that only can exist on simulations. Smogon OU singles and even all of the lower unofficial tiers like ZU or UUbers can be replicated in the actual games themselves, you can't do that at all with NatDex, because certain moves no longer exist, Pokemon are missing, AND multiple different generational mechanics are allowed. It's about as real as Almost Any Ability, STABmons, or any of the other OMs that exist on Smogon, which is why it's not worth mentioning when talking strictly official formats.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We don't use a hyphen between the word mega and the Pokemon's name.

    • @TheForgidbearbackers
      @TheForgidbearbackers 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      good news, he's coming back officially.

    • @c-8164
      @c-8164 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Forged4War206 not really , its basically a meta where all pokemon are allowed including z moves and Megas ofcourse theres a banned list and although tera is an awful mechanic that disrupted the natdex format gen 8 national dex is a competitive tear at the high ladder. If Blastoise can be banned in a meta like that it means that if megas come back once it shell smashes it becomes monster

  • @Elfking94
    @Elfking94 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Ill never forget somehow being swept by an evasive/sleep meganium in the gen 3 battle tower. Boy what an introduction to gimick strategies lol

    • @shawnli4746
      @shawnli4746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      That's why it's a battle tower. You're allowed to use degenerate stuff that smogon ban ages ago.
      But then again, you're also up against a CPU that knows which move you click, and luck is always on their side.

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I don't remember ever facing that, but my fire punch alakazam may have just crushed it every time. I'm not really sure.

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is why u use Mono dragon Latios with sub calm and recover

    • @shawnli4746
      @shawnli4746 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@bryanc1772 to quote a certain other video: none of that matters when you can't *hit* them

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shawnli4746 +6 252 SpA Latios Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Meganium: 377-444 (103.5 - 121.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
      It only needs to hit once which will come . It’s only a matter of time and yea it’s not like meganium can break Latios subs

  • @spamgoose6447
    @spamgoose6447 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Quaquaval having triple axel now will give it a shot at OU again imo. Triple Axel destroys its previous counters

    • @1peidu
      @1peidu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That axel doing a fat 13% to pex with 3 hits and a fat 5% to dozo with 3 crit hits

    • @spamgoose6447
      @spamgoose6447 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@1peidu he said dragonite and dragapult were counters, reason why I said it lol

    • @sonic5993
      @sonic5993 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@spamgoose6447 Meowscarda gets it too and it can get STAB off of it unlike Quav, so probably not.

    • @MisterSleep1123
      @MisterSleep1123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@sonic5993Ydk it can tera, right? But then again, why waste a tera to be an ice type

    • @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283
      @librathebeautifulwarmonk1283 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@MisterSleep1123Regiekeki:

  • @typhlosion7872
    @typhlosion7872 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +166

    Primarina is so good in UU for gens 7 and 8 and I hope that continues. Highest special attack AND highest special defense of all starters not counting Eeveelutions

    • @Goldenblade14
      @Goldenblade14 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It kind of astounds me how Prima isn't at least BL, but then again, I look to the Rampardos theorem.

    • @teddyhaines6613
      @teddyhaines6613 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@Goldenblade14 Rampardos theorem is overstating it considering Primarina has good special bulk and a good defensive typing. Think it's just the speed holding it back.

    • @YoungusChungus
      @YoungusChungus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well Rampardos Theorem says that "power isn't everything," and it doesn't necessarily specify the issue as poor bulk or typing. Primarina having the Highest starter Special Attack and being considered a C Tier fits the mold imo.@@teddyhaines6613

    • @Rawla2
      @Rawla2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yea I was hoping Primarina would get maybe quiver dance and or boomburst this gen. But alas my girl is just gonna have to wait for her time

    • @TrixterTheFemboy
      @TrixterTheFemboy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Rawla2 Boomburst I would love, but dear gods if this thing gets Quiver Dance it's skyrocketing right up to OU and never coming back down

  • @ginwilliam7763
    @ginwilliam7763 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    I feel like Dirge is at least A rank. Being viable in Ubers should surely be worth some brownie points.

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's held back by the fact it's only been around for 1 generation.

  • @EmersonCRVG
    @EmersonCRVG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    incineroar in singles, C tier, middle of the middle. In doubles, SSS+

  • @jo_jo_jo
    @jo_jo_jo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Honest to God, I just saw that Meganium didn't get any significant boost in Indigo disk and I am SO mad about it. Like, really? How is it possible that Gamefreak keeps on mistreating it? Gosh, GF better put their sh¨t together.

    • @brain_tonic
      @brain_tonic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      But wait! It got…. Uh… hmmm… knockoff, surely that’s a rare move that not over a hundred mons better than meganium learn. (Clueless)
      Oh oh oh ! I got you! It got body press! Now it can deal with those pesky steel types! Please ignore the fact that it already knows earthquake and that it’s best defense boosting move is… curse…

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Give it a Fire/Grass regional form and then we can talk

  • @t.j.helming5534
    @t.j.helming5534 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I've been a HUGE Swampert fan for majority of its existence. Glad to see that the competitive scene loves it too!!

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Swampert had a very significant niche in previous gen as a specially defensive wall that could set p rocks, spread toxic/threaten what it walls, utilise flip turn for momentum, and just spam earthquake or scald, so it was actually quite decent quite recently (nothng game breaking but the niche it fitted was quite significant)

    • @t.j.helming5534
      @t.j.helming5534 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I still to this day, play ruby & Sapphire on my Gameboy SP
      Swampert is my undisputed favorite starter of all time!
      I'm soo dedicated to Swampert (even before the physical/special split) that I don't care using an over-leveled mixed attacking starter during playthroughs (hydro pump/surf; ice beam; earthquake; brick break).
      I even trade every Swampert I've ever played with to another game before restarting my gen 3 games!

    • @ShiningJudgment666
      @ShiningJudgment666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@t.j.helming5534 Mixed Swampert was pretty much the standard in Gens 3 and 4. It usually packed Ice Beam and Earthquake for damage dealing moves while the other 2 slots were for utility (Roar for PHazing and either Stealth Rock or Water STAB for more coverage). Ice Beam despite running off its lower attacking stat was more effective than Ice Punch in Gen 4.

  • @wanderlustwarrior
    @wanderlustwarrior 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Saw Meganium coming a mile away. It basically exists to get dunked on. It's also the poster child of "overshadowed by its own middle stage."

  • @nathanielkarasik2372
    @nathanielkarasik2372 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Seeing meganimun one of my favorite starters always so low always breaks my heart.

    • @majesticgothitelle1802
      @majesticgothitelle1802 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Only if meganium get a new ability like thick fat or technician

    • @Lagi42800
      @Lagi42800 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Or megic bounce, or even Triage

    • @nathanielkarasik2372
      @nathanielkarasik2372 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@majesticgothitelle1802 that would be such a cool hidden ability. Or just a boost in stats

    • @bonniefazbear1987
      @bonniefazbear1987 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just remember that this is only with competitive Pokémon, comp stuff isn't all there is

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It even ties with Ash’s Bulbasaur in a League battle lol

  • @weesticles650
    @weesticles650 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    Keep in mind both Meowscarada and Quaquaval got Triple Axel this dlc so they're gonna be even better than at the time this tier list was made.

    • @cheyanne2001
      @cheyanne2001 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      They *both* got Triple Axel??? What was Game Freak cooking lol

    • @weesticles650
      @weesticles650 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@cheyanne2001 if you think that's bad think of VGC. Incineroar just got Helping Hand 😂. I don't know why the thought Meowscarada, Quaquaval or most of all Incineroar needed buffs.

    • @cheyanne2001
      @cheyanne2001 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@weesticles650 they did *what* to Incin

    • @weesticles650
      @weesticles650 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@cheyanne2001 it got Helping Hand. Plus it got the new move Temper Flare so if it hits into Protect it'll have a 150 BP move the next turn.

    • @cheyanne2001
      @cheyanne2001 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@weesticles650 OH WHY. It's not like Incin was a top VGC Mon already, yup. It needed more buffs apparently 😭

  • @DUDEBRUHMICE
    @DUDEBRUHMICE 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    If this was doubles then incineroar would’ve been S tier

    • @Alexdbre
      @Alexdbre 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Z Tier actually…

    • @michaelurmo7984
      @michaelurmo7984 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Incineroar tier, more like

  • @reycoswanson
    @reycoswanson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Actually im pretty sure the protean/libero change was due to Tera. Like you said Gren had it or 3 gens and they left it alone. Im sure there would have been bugs or terablast would be absurd on them, also if keckleon stays gone that would make sense as a reason. (Not that keckleon was used a lot lol)

    • @BrendonCap
      @BrendonCap 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It definitely was because it was broken or that they thought it was distracting.
      Bugs would have been simple to fix, thats really not an issue. This is coming from a dev.

    • @Unknwnwrrior
      @Unknwnwrrior 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm fairly confident because it was Cinderace wrecking stuff in Battle Stadium Singles (BSS). With Bounce, Bulk Up/HJK, Sucker Punch, Pyro Ball, and Gigantamax it could go for a Max Airstream then pick and choose its counters, deftly avoiding any priority with Protean that could dent it.

    • @aaajeear8654
      @aaajeear8654 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@BrendonCap Gamefreak having an easy time fixing bugs? ha, that's funny.

    • @dysr
      @dysr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That doesn't seem particularly likely, since Tera just disables those abilities, so they could've done the same thing with the previous version.

    • @BrendonCap
      @BrendonCap 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aaajeear8654 All jokes aside, yes, gamefreak is quite adept at making games without bugs, if you dont count graphical errors. When was the last time we had a real significant bug related to the type chart or abilities? They are amazingly rare.

  • @KiryuuYoshiya
    @KiryuuYoshiya 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    venusaur truly is the goat. so glad to see it this high on the list where it deserves to be 💕

    • @midniteryder_3-16
      @midniteryder_3-16 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wish it was on the s tier, though…but whatever…

  • @omniultimate
    @omniultimate 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Blaziken has been my favorite pokemon since it's beginning
    to see it ascend so high competitively has always put a smile on my face
    if only it was also amazing in VGC

    • @Alastordadeer
      @Alastordadeer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the same with greninja. Even with battle bond no longer making it’s base stats mewtwo level. It’s still an insanely good mon, despite that it doesn’t have a niece in the among the highest offensive stat department. It’s still an all around S tier Pokemon.

    • @SarcasticBeingYes
      @SarcasticBeingYes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      greninja trash lol@@Alastordadeer

    • @bijupak
      @bijupak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SarcasticBeingYes Yea lol Greninja trash

  • @TheOnlyGBeast
    @TheOnlyGBeast 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I think skeledirge is back in OU now by usage, it's still quite great

  • @lane5686
    @lane5686 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Blaziken who is the archetype of Fire & Fighting for 3 generations and gained speed boost: Bawk Bawk motherf*cker

  • @ItsJustKaya
    @ItsJustKaya 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Chesnaught is my favourite pokemon to find early one in any Rom.
    Its essentially Swampert but double weak to Flying. Which is generally rare to see in competitive and on difficult game.

    • @maniakb416
      @maniakb416 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Flying is absolutely not uncommon to see in competitive.

  • @AlectricEel
    @AlectricEel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +116

    Contrary Serperior with leaf storm and choice specs plus maxed out speed is way too deadly.

    • @NasJuiced
      @NasJuiced 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      i think specs serperior is one of the worse serp sets tbh. sub leech glare leaf storm (you could swap a move for coverage such as hidden power/tera blast). the ability to spread paralysis as a mon that fast + being able to take advantage of paralysis to setup is crazy good. serp isn’t as scary if it’s just clicking leaf storm and, for example, if someone switches in a heatran your stuck with a specs leaf storm instead of being able to snipe it with coverage like hidden power/ tera blast ground or, even better, paralyze it.

    • @mangosteak
      @mangosteak 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      specs serp is Bad
      Grass is a trash offensive typing.
      Serp loves spamming its aupport moves like glare, leechseed and defog
      Or screens

    • @AlectricEel
      @AlectricEel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@NasJuiced You make a very good point however Serp's many weaknesses may mean to use at least 2 moves it needs a sash. Sashing it ain't a bad move or anything but it takes away the use of another item. Honestly your opinion is clever and probably better than how I like to use Serp however I like brute force!

    • @AlectricEel
      @AlectricEel 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@mangosteak Just because a type is trash offensively, doesn't mean a Pokemon that has that type is. And Grass is probably worse defensively due to its many weaknesses! Its honestly up to you how to play with it and I respect your opinion as that is how Serp is usually played! I just like trying to take mons out quickly before they can set up entry hazards and status conditions.

    • @devilman4723
      @devilman4723 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AlectricEelthe idea is more than grass isn't great offensively, so you don't want to lock yourself into it. Using Leaf Storm to get the +2 and using that to break your normal switchins with something like Tera Blast Fire is a lot more effective than being forced out yourself. Alternatively, grabbing a substitute can let you spam Leaf Storm forever and eventually break everything that used to wall you

  • @mjodyh
    @mjodyh หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was taken aback while watching the video when I noticed Incineroar in the C-Tier.
    I paused the video and checked the title to see "-Singles", then it all makes sense

  • @MorrisPXG
    @MorrisPXG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Even Greninja Got Nerfed in Battle Bond and Protean,He’s still Grow Strong,Well done.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shouldn't there be a space after every comma?

  • @newdonkshitty
    @newdonkshitty 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Calling Serperiors movepool "Devilish" was a good callback. For the unaware, Contrary used to be called "Devil's Advocate" prior to BW being released in English.

    • @kariquigley3817
      @kariquigley3817 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      30:49 not even gliscore can tank it

  • @fooddaily3609
    @fooddaily3609 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I think the biggest reason they have changed Protean/Libero is the interaction with terastalization. However, I think this change will stay even in future gens.

    • @DampWetstew
      @DampWetstew 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It'ld be nice if they gave Kelceon a variant of the original version. Being able to swap between types freely makes it really fun. With it's stats keep it from being overwhelming. (Very high sp.def, average hp, defense attack, and low speed)
      It also gets priority Dark/Ghost/Normal attacks, giving it a lot of fun immunity play.

    • @Pariah_ANT
      @Pariah_ANT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I thought the same thing when they nerfed it.

    • @what.are.you.doing.stepbro
      @what.are.you.doing.stepbro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea. If it remained the same in gen 9, Meow would totally outclass the other 2 especially now that it gets triple axel. Its faster than the other 2 or in fact any starter and it hits harder than greninja and also has a broken signature move

    • @RealBeastBoy007
      @RealBeastBoy007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@what.are.you.doing.stepbroImagine they bring back Ash Greninja

  • @thelegendsplays6266
    @thelegendsplays6266 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Blaziken has been my fave mon since I got introduced to Pokemon, which was with the release of Emerald. It does me so well to see my boy top the list of the tierlist because he was too broken to deal with for like 3 whole gens.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We do not refer to Pokemon as a boy or a girl.

    • @thelegendsplays6266
      @thelegendsplays6266 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Amelia4111 Since Blaziken has a gender ratio of 87.5% male and 12.5% female and I only ever got male Torchics, I am very confident to call him my boy and dont think you should critize this topic to even begin with

    • @darkenedpp
      @darkenedpp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Amelia4111 Why? There's clearly genders there.

    • @Aspencio
      @Aspencio 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Amelia4111okay bro

  • @deanoor9391
    @deanoor9391 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Swampert is my favorite final evolution of the starters but infernape isn't that far away

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Man of culture

    • @sonicmaster206
      @sonicmaster206 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same here

    • @yaya6195
      @yaya6195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same,their my favorite water and fire starters respectively
      (Meowscarada is my favorite grass)

    • @Brochacho73
      @Brochacho73 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @deanoor9391 the fact we have the same favorite mon and name is wild lol

  • @ekman2095
    @ekman2095 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I would LOVE seeing a similar video going over pseudo legendaries!

  • @nolanevans7603
    @nolanevans7603 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    Imfernape needs a strong special Fighting Type move like Aura Sphere!

    • @fernandoguillen5996
      @fernandoguillen5996 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      It's weird and fascinating how infernape can have a second chance if it obtains a bettee special movepool

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      It already have it
      infernape just needs a better hidden ability or a boost to iron fist (which is super weak 20%) it should get the same boost as strong jaw
      The fact that it stayed OU/UU stable for 16 years with even blaze is impressive same goes with swampert in fact most of his sets are not used with iron fist

    • @qwilliams1539
      @qwilliams1539 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      But it does have such a move...
      ...70% of the time.

    • @MMW1299
      @MMW1299 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      It learns Aura Sphere btw

    • @jerrytaylor4036
      @jerrytaylor4036 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@qwilliams1539call it what it is; focus miss

  • @alfredsupersauce
    @alfredsupersauce 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Can’t wait to see meganium also come in last in the doubles version of this video. Incineroar being #1 is also inevitable.

  • @gioanysgonzalez3396
    @gioanysgonzalez3396 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Charizard: Hey look at that guys ! I’m placed in PU as in “Perfectly Usable”
    Blastoise: Should we tell him?
    Venusaur: Nah let it sink in.

    • @aprinnyonbreak1290
      @aprinnyonbreak1290 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I mean
      Blastoise probably should avoid casting stones, or really doing anything to draw attention to itself. Or its forehead

  • @FilipDrlik
    @FilipDrlik 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Great video, please do legendaries in the same video format

  • @Crusina
    @Crusina 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Typhlosion is my favorite starter and one of my favorite pokemon if all time.
    Its both ferocious but also cuddly. Could you imagine being out in the wilds and juat cuddling with it late at night to go to sleep?

    • @bomoose
      @bomoose 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and it burning you to death?

    • @mrtrollnator123
      @mrtrollnator123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@bomooseit can take its flames off

  • @megasean3000
    @megasean3000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    GameFreak: How do we buff Meganium?
    Sensible employee 1: Give it new moves?
    GameFreak: Nah.
    Sensible employee 2: Give it a new ability which compliments its wall status?
    GameFreak: Nah.
    Dumbass employee: Make it the mascot for the new Pokemon Snap game and call it a day?
    GameFreak: BRILLIANT!!!

    • @goGothitaLOL
      @goGothitaLOL 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      It did just got 3 new moves recently in S/V
      Knock Off, Body Press, and Encore
      It’s HA is still the infamous Leaf Guard, it lost Aromatherapy (deleted) with no Heal Bell to take it’s place, and still no Sleep Powder, Calm Mind, Earth Power, or the new Alluring Voice, not even Pollen Puff

    • @Catastrophe3x3
      @Catastrophe3x3 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Give it regenerator, synthesis, calm mind, earth power & sleep powder and it would probably be decent in RU.

    • @maverick12070
      @maverick12070 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I still want my Mega Meganium. Grass/Fairy, Pixilate, Hypervoice, 100 Base Speed. done

  • @gavtro2
    @gavtro2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Blaziken has always been my favorite starter, other than personal bias I'm happy to see there is a reason why I liked it so much.

  • @krisiverse
    @krisiverse 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Meganium is one of my absolute favorite Pokemon, but yeah, competitively it definitely deserves that placement in F tier. The placings of all these are solid and you've explained them very thoroughly, great video!

  • @praise0908
    @praise0908 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video! I'm a shiny hunter, not a competitive player, but I love watching comp videos so I really like that you get so detailed on the history of all these mons. Even the bad ones!

  • @homebaked1731
    @homebaked1731 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    How is charizard ranked so high when it’s been pu for the last 3 gens

    • @aleger620
      @aleger620 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s puzzling me too… but if the video author was making a video based on NATDEX-Tier where Both Mega Char versions are available, it has its sense because both are very solid mons, normal Char in Pu and UU char is quite nasty…
      So, probabily a little FORCED but Char deserve a seat in the upper level of the pyramid 🙂

    • @homebaked1731
      @homebaked1731 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s recently dropped to ZU. I’m even more baffled as to why it’s ranked so high here

  • @tenken73
    @tenken73 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey man, love you guys and your videos. I appreciate the passion. Happy holidays! (Also, Venosaur will always be #1*)
    Pokédex depending on

  • @kanauso3706
    @kanauso3706 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    False Swipe always posts BANGERS.

  • @loupe500
    @loupe500 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Yeah, I always knew my boy would be in first, like he is supposed to be. But in all seriousness, I think Hisuian Sammurott, Skeliderge and Meowscarada will be seen in A tier next gen, specially the former 2, since I just can’t see Skeliderge losing it’s niche in ubers without a legendary unaware pokemon being released. Ubers is currently way too powerful and it’s in need of an unaware user, and he is just the best one.

    • @what.are.you.doing.stepbro
      @what.are.you.doing.stepbro 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It'll lose tera next gen so it wont be nearly as viable as it is now. It has wayy too many common weaknesses for a slow pokemon to be good without tera next gen. Meowscarada got tripple axel and is now actually one of the most used mon on ou according to the usage chart finchinator tweeted

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We don't use the word its as a pronoun if there's an apostrophe in it.

    • @loupe500
      @loupe500 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@what.are.you.doing.stepbro he is not good even with tera. He has just been power crept. But he is still decent, it’s slow but speed boost can fix this, and he will probably have the best history of any starter forever. I just can’t see any starter having 3 generations in ubers. He was even considered good in gen 5, that’s just how goated his run was.

  • @elrhunadan
    @elrhunadan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Meganium wouldn't be so lonely if you had counted Pikachu

    • @tonyvazquez7612
      @tonyvazquez7612 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      At least the lets go starters have coverage

  • @Folutu
    @Folutu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    My favorite and chosen starters for each gen:
    Gen 1: Bulbasaur
    Gen 2: Totodile
    Gen 3: Treecko
    Gen 4: Turtwig
    Gen 5: Snivy
    Gen 6: Froakie
    Gen 7: Rowlet
    Gen 8: Sobble
    Gen 9: Fuecoco
    Looking at the list, I think I've picked rather well. I tend towards reptile/amphibian Pokémon, with a bias towards Grass and the resulting choices haven't been bad.

    • @arnoldwolf6
      @arnoldwolf6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Besides the first two I also have the same favorites (gen 3 to gen 9), but My fav of all starter is by far far far far margin Squirtle (I have a Blastoise tattoo on my back). 2nd gen is Chikorita (but is more by a nostalgic factor than competitive or any other way)

  • @dr.cogleIRL
    @dr.cogleIRL 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    God, Greninja, and Cinderace used to be absolutely terrifying back then, so I've heard. Having practically the same abilities that were broken. I think its good they nerfed their abilities because they were almost unstoppable.
    But the fact they almost destroyed competitive battles kinda makes me love them even more

  • @Matpit18
    @Matpit18 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Great video, FSG!
    Very well made!
    Can’t wait for the Doubles Version of this video, though I think we all know who the best starter is there! 😂

    • @MorrisPXG
      @MorrisPXG 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Incineroar:

    • @lorenzotosi7872
      @lorenzotosi7872 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greninja also or venusaur rillaboom mega Charizard y serperior can be S tier maybe incineroar is S+

    • @pekorisa
      @pekorisa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@lorenzotosi7872 Honestly they could be S and Incin could just jump straight into S++
      Gigachad buff cat is singlehandedly the best doubles Pkmn to have ever existed and the others will never compare

    • @lorenzotosi7872
      @lorenzotosi7872 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ever no, consider landorus-t, meta since its introduction, gastrodon, groudon, and smeargle ludicolo metagrross the early days, at the end the title of best goes to none other than king kyogre itself@@pekorisa

    • @jeremiahgreen5632
      @jeremiahgreen5632 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@lorenzotosi7872Yeah, but Incineroar is way more consistent. Kyogre can be easily shut down by Groudon with Solar Beam.

  • @PWNAGE703
    @PWNAGE703 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Bro the fact that dlc is $35 is insane

  • @nightsider2705
    @nightsider2705 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Honestly, I'd argue chesnaught deserves to be moved up a tier.
    It's been a solid uu mon for 2 of 3 gens its been in, while everything else in the same tier was ru or below

  • @falsebeliever8079
    @falsebeliever8079 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Meganium should get a signature move that sets up sun and grassy terrain simultaneously

  • @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
    @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I wonder how much this list will change with their full return in Teal Mask/Indigo Disk SV DLC? Sadly it will be quite while since it usually takes several testing and actual tourneys to fully test out a complete list in regards to the full changes.

  • @MusicComet
    @MusicComet 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like how you make a lot of pokemon sound strong despite their tiers like with decidueye and emboar. I'm not into competitive so I can't tell how true this is, it just sounds really nice :)

  • @TheSpiritOfGeorgia
    @TheSpiritOfGeorgia 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    We need these tierlist from you!
    Great video.

  • @iss2075
    @iss2075 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    I think Meganium could be quite good with Regenerator (especially in metagames with really strong Ground-types, which is most of them lol). And it wouldn't need to use Assault Vest like Tangrowth. And it's faster and stronger than Amoongus.

    • @MMW1299
      @MMW1299 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I also think Swampert should get Slack Off, Recover or Regenerator.
      Would fit because it's based off a mud fish/amphibian

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Triage would be my pick.

    • @teddyhaines6613
      @teddyhaines6613 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Hell, give it Regenerator and Strength Sap. That would make it a tank physical sweepers actually fear facing instead of thinking it's setup fodder.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@teddyhaines6613 Imagine Triage Strength Sap, though. That could go pretty wild.

    • @pixelbro99
      @pixelbro99 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Floral healing would make a lot of sense considering it has a giant flower around its neck. Also, give my girl Meganium Sleep Powder and Stun Spore and maybe Pollen Puff.

  • @superdriver
    @superdriver 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Imagine releasing this the day Sceptile gets shed tail

  • @nikinovski
    @nikinovski 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    10:00 the way he introduces the beginning of C rank and above, and immediately hts you with the blastoise facing back pose. False Swipe Gaming you didn't need to go this hard 🔥🔥

  • @MrSupersonic2012
    @MrSupersonic2012 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Meganium fans: GF please buff
    GF: What? You want us to give Charizard ANOTHER new form?

  • @boop53
    @boop53 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    15:20
    Quaquaval in the past few months has also gained Knock Off and Triple Axel. Its honestly a really cool pokemon

  • @gamerwatchproductions8684
    @gamerwatchproductions8684 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like to see more of these tier list videos. Could the next one be the regional variants ranked?

  • @tnghunter
    @tnghunter 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did have fun mopping the floor with Zacian & Cinderace in doubles.
    "Oh, you have a bulky water type? Well Libero energy ball should deal with that fine."

  • @sebarsht12
    @sebarsht12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It really goes to show, despite Grass having the reputation of one of the worst offensive typing, their support capabilities and resistances to some key types. Grass serves to be one of the most balanced types (in terms of starters)
    From my view and counting, using the number of Mons above and below C-Tier (which i consider as the middle ground)
    - Grass is well-balanced
    - Fire, even counting regional forms is POWERFUL as well as popular, it helps that many games have a sparce diversity of fire types.
    - Water while favouring average towards above average. As a whole, to me, it's reliable. Squirtle was my first ever Pokémon, Gatr was my first ever shiny. I tend to lean towards the Water type.
    -

    • @brain_tonic
      @brain_tonic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s what makes Meganium extra bad. It manages to be a grass type without all those good grass support moves and good abilities that grass types tend to have. Also grass is frequently a good secondary typing on defensive mons (see ferrothorn or Amoonguss) but Meganium is monotype. Bro never stood a chance. 😢

    • @bryanc1772
      @bryanc1772 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brain_tonicblame power creep and the existance of better Pokémon
      Just use Tangrowth , it’s just much better than most things Meganium can do
      Offensive Grass types ; Ferrothorn , Ogerpon-Hearthflame, Waterpon and Rockpon exist now, even Kartana and Mega Venusaur
      Venusaur nowadays is a lot better since Poison typing helps it with Fairies

    • @sebarsht12
      @sebarsht12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bryanc1772 it should also be noted that Meganium has access to the Grass staples of Leech Seed, Powders and self-healing as well as dual screens.
      Then Serperior came along.

    • @brain_tonic
      @brain_tonic 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sebarsht12 It actually only has poison powder, which is a terrible move... meanwhile Venusaur has sleep powder and toxic. Also hundreds of mons have screens, pretty irrelevant to mention. Leech seed is on every defensive grass pretty much, so Meganium isn't really standing out with that either.

  • @marioalbertofernandez9225
    @marioalbertofernandez9225 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Serperior is my favorite starter and I liked its high place.

  • @yuga7397
    @yuga7397 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I couldn't stop thinking of terminal montage's animation while watching this

  • @Unknwnwrrior
    @Unknwnwrrior 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Please buff Meganium"
    GF with the Indigo Disk: "Nerf Meganium? Alright!"

  • @Professor_Wisteria_
    @Professor_Wisteria_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Turtwig was my first ever starter, and i can say confidently that the phrase "Shell Smash Torterra" gives me goosebumps. he might not be one of the most ridiculous mons out there but good gods above is he a tanky mf. add shell smash to that and you have a cannonball of a pokemon

  • @nametab6415
    @nametab6415 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great video as always: of course I'd make a few changes though
    Samurott down to E: It might have been good in NU but it's still always NU, similar to Typhlosion's frequent NU excursions
    Chesnaught up to C: The OU niche in XY does a fair bit for me here even if it ead RU by usage
    Skeledirge to A: Only one generation but it's literally checking the most broken pokemon conceived. Definitely higher than Meow

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Zard atleast a tier lower as well? been badge if you exclude the bias and 2 megas it got, B tops but C even

  • @mylestomsik4720
    @mylestomsik4720 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No matter if some of the starters were strong or not, they still are iconic and memorable, and we will remember them for a long time to come.

  • @GrizbyK72
    @GrizbyK72 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow. I love Venusaur, but did not expect it to be ranked this high. And right next to its “cooler” sibling no less.

  • @beanburrito4405
    @beanburrito4405 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Quaquaval should be B tier as it was ranked OU for half a year. Great video!!

  • @socberttrucker3598
    @socberttrucker3598 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I like mudkips

    • @bluebaron6811
      @bluebaron6811 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too. Mudkip is my spirit animal

  • @gio9255
    @gio9255 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was an awesome video format. Please do this again for the pseudo legendaries and legendaries.

  • @nanya524
    @nanya524 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not surprised Empoleon was ranked so high. Only two weaknesses in Gens 4 and 5 and tough enough to withstand a STAB Close Combat/Earthquake from Infernape/Torterra while OHKOing them in return.

    • @arnoldwolf6
      @arnoldwolf6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      On gen gen 4 and onwards he always have : 3 Weaknees Thunder, Ground and Fighting this never had been changed. in gen 6 steel lose Dark and Ghost as a resistant only...

  • @Brainfly-
    @Brainfly- 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wait nothing against Meganium fans but I have never met a Meganium fan

  • @snowyinferno
    @snowyinferno 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Meganium has always been the pokemon I first look for new moveset changes in every new release since gen 6

    • @arnoldwolf6
      @arnoldwolf6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too. I also have thad bad habit, this gen lost Aromatherapy and got Body Press, Knock Off and Zen Headbutt. The problem is that stil with shitty Leaf Guard and no signature move that gives a specif niche.

  • @maykonbrasileiro761
    @maykonbrasileiro761 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As someone who had chikorita as their first starter
    I still wait for the day it will be good

  • @Smallsmallrose
    @Smallsmallrose 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Decidueye also saw a good amount of use in gen 7 UU, it was a decent stallbreaker in a meta where stallbreakers were inconsistent due to stall's variety, and its Z-move was incredibly powerful, even to resists.

  • @xeruexe1624
    @xeruexe1624 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Shouldn't we count Raichu for Yellow's Pikachu? So Meganium wouldn't be so lonely down there.

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In neither game where Pikachu is a starter can you even evolve it.

    • @Espadasilenciosa
      @Espadasilenciosa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@skeetermania3202 You can trade it to another game, evolve it there and trade it back to yellow

  • @missplayer30
    @missplayer30 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yay! My favorite starter, Swampert, ever made it to A tier, I'm so proud of him. I don't care if he isn't S tier (Which honestly it's a very tough spot to reach), as long as he is still ze best and still is.

  • @ryanmeek6284
    @ryanmeek6284 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    VGC fans seeing incineroar in c tier must be like what singles fans feel seeing toxapex in f tier

  • @boop53
    @boop53 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    imo, Meowscarada will be back in OU. It will have competition of course, but that movepool and speed tier will always give it a place
    it gained some new moves in indigo disk

  • @playersnake
    @playersnake 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Please do a theorem video explaining the impact of entry hazards (forretress theorem)

  • @BMB
    @BMB 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    fun fact: charizard is NU in gen 1, but is one of the top 20 most used pokémon in OU because new players don’t know any better

  • @lorenzotosi7872
    @lorenzotosi7872 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Always wanted a well done starter analysis, my hope was fading but fsg is there for a reason

  • @PlutoPlanetPower
    @PlutoPlanetPower 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need this same video for doubles!

  • @jacobruby2237
    @jacobruby2237 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm glad that Torterra finally got Shell Smash and other moves in Gen 9. (It should've gotten Shell Smash in BDSP) Though on BDSP, there must've been tiers for it right? I remember when Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee had its own playable tiers.

  • @brentvalliere7624
    @brentvalliere7624 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Skeledirge is definitely an A-tier in my book. Top 10 pokemon in Uber and UU, and now its back in OU. Very good boy!

    • @CMiY0
      @CMiY0 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Along with this I think H. Samurott deserved A tier bare minimum. Getting free spikes up is insane. It forces crazy progress and has massive sweeping ability with a swords dance sucker punch tera set.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We do not refer to Pokemon as a boy or a girl. WHY?

  • @skeetermania3202
    @skeetermania3202 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    5:10 And there’s the obligatory Tyranitar mention in a 30+ minute FSG video.

  • @thomasmcmahan2631
    @thomasmcmahan2631 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Its interesting to think about how different this list is now. Of course blaziken earns a top spot for so many years of dominance but he has definitely been power crept quite a bit.