WATCH LIVE: ‘Take Care of Maya’ Trial - Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital - Day 28
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- The family of Maya Kowalski, the subject of Netflix’s “Take Care of Maya,” allege that a report of child abuse from Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital led to Beata Kowalski taking her own life. The Kowalski’s are suing doctors, the Department of Children and Families, and Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital for $200 million dollars in connection to Beata’s death. According to court documents, the child abuse case against Beata was pushed forward after Maya’s physician confirmed her condition, complex regional pain syndrome, was not the fault of her parents. During the time Beata was separated from Maya, she took her own life.
Trial Moments:
00:00 Court Begins
00:12:03 Judge and Counsel Give Appearances
00:12:36 Arguments Outside The Presence Of The Jury - Exhibits
00:48:08 Defense Calls Sylvia Bolic - RN - Case Manager
01:02:38 Plaintiff Cross Exam of Sylvia Bolic
01:05:42 Sidebar for Jury Questions
01:08:26 Plaintiff Follow-up Questions
01:07:58 Sylvia Bolic Answers Jury Questions
01:10:05 Defense Calls Amanda Flores - Pediatric Nurse Practitioner -JHACH
01:25:29 Plaintiff Cross Exam of Amanda Flores - Pediatric Nurse Practitioner -JHACH
01:36:32 Defense Redirect of Amanda Flores - Pediatric Nurse Practitioner -JHACH
01:36:59 Plaintiff Recross of Amanda Flores - Pediatric Nurse Practitioner -JHACH
01:37:21 Sidebar for Jury Questions
01:51:14 Amanda Flores Answers Jury Questions
01:57:09 Plaintiff Follow-up Questions
02:03:10 Defense Follow-up Questions
02:04:49 Plaintiff Follow-up Questions
02:07:51 Defense Follow-up Questions
02:08:49 Sidebar for Jury Questions
02:10:56 Amanda Flores Answers Jury Questions
02:12:39 Defense Follow-up Questions
02:13:31 Plaintiff Follow-up Questions
02:20:54 Deposition of Scott Kowalski
02:25:54 Deposition of Jack Kowalski
02:29:15 Two Depositions of Maya Kowalski, will Run Consecutively
02:38:30 Defense Publishes Photos of Maya
02:39:55 Jury Goes on a 15 Minute Break
02:40:37 Arguments Outside The Presence Of The Jury - Exhibits
03:04:38 Arguments Outside The Presence Of The Jury - Exhibits
03:19:53 Defense Rests!
03:19:59 First Rebuttal Witness: Dr. Pradeep Chopra - Pain Medicine Specialist
03:28:43 Defense Cross Exam of Dr. Pradeep Chopra - Pain Medicine Specialist
03:35:29 Sidebar for Jury Questions
03:37:07 Jury Goes to Lunch
03:37:48 Arguments Outside The Presence Of The Jury - Discussing Witness Kushner
03:47:05 Court Goes to Lunch
04:42:19 Arguments Outside The Presence Of The Jury
05:12:05 Plaintiff Next Rebuttal Witness: Plaintiff Jack Kowalski - Maya's Father
05:20:58 Defense Cross Exam of Plaintiff Jack Kowalski - Maya's Father
05:25:34 Plaintiff Redirect of Plaintiff Jack Kowalski - Maya's Father
05:28:17 Plaintiff Rebuttal Witness: Dr. Joseph Corcoran - Healthcare Executive
05:36:57 Defense Voir Dire's Witness Due to Objection
05:42:25 Plaintiff Cross Exam of Voir Dire ofDr. Joseph Corcoran
05:44:35 Plaintiff Continues Direct Exam of Dr. Joseph Corcoran
05:58:08 Excusing Jury and Witness Due to the Objection
05:58:43 Possible Proffer Of Witness May Happen After 5 Minute Break
06:12:12 Proffer of Dr. Corcoran is being Questioned Outside the Presence of the Jury
06:29:29 Court Takes 5 Minute Break
06:34:23 Arguments Outside the Presence of the Jury
06:41:11 Plaintiff Rebuttal Witness Continues in Front of the Jury: Dr. Joseph Corcoran
06:49:45 Plaintiff's Next Rebuttal Witness's Son Was Treated at JHACH
06:57:13 Plaintiff's Rebuttal Witness's: Maya Kowalski - Plaintiff
07:15:03 Defense Cross Exam of Maya Kowalski - Plaintiff
07:16:23 Sidebar for Jury Questions
07:20:02 Maya Kowalski - Plaintiff Answers Jury Questions
07:22:18 Jury Goes on a Break
07:23:04 Arguments Outside The Presence Of The Jury
07:33:59 Judge/Counsel Discuss Further Updates of The Joint Commission Issues
07:31:58 Plaintiff's Rebuttal Witness's Recalled: Maya Kowalski - Plaintiff
07:53:19 Defense Cross Exam of Maya Kowalski - Plaintiff
07:56:18 Jury Being Sent Home
08:03:35 Court and Counsel Handling Housekeeping Matters
08:18:05 Phone Call From Beata Kowalski is Played
08:23:28 Court Taking 5 Minute Break
08:33:00 Court Handling Defense Motion for Directed Verdict And Then Jury Instructions
09:01:11 Court Adjourns
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This is the best judge I have ever seen,,,,,he is a true reflection of how Justice should be handled , Thanks to his wife and family for sharing him for 9 weeks in this trial
I agree. He is so professional and treats the jury with the utmost respect. Although this part of the case has him ruffled, he handles himself very well.
If the Hospital thought that the CRPS diagnosis wasn't real and the prescription was dangerous, why not report the doctors? Why the parents?
This is what annoys me the most is that Beata got the blame for differences between physicians.
And as this other comment says, a woman lost her life and a family lost a mother, a wife, and a lifetime filled with pain and regret based upon egos that all blamed the mom because she simply listened to a doctor in which I am sure she was desperate and scared for her daughter!
My thoughts exactly...
Because that would have made sense.
Exactly. If did wrong they need to be stopped
It’s bizarre how she smiles when discussing Maya defecting on herself.
The nurse in pink rolled her eyes too regarding this question. What a tool she is. Trying to make it sound like she's all this good nurse who cared for Maya's well being. 😅
Absolutely, by far, one of the phoniest smiles ever.
I just saw the newspaper article in the Tampa Bay paper. It said the hospital was in the I.j. category. Not just the cardiac unit.
I am looking forward to Friday on that one
I read the article and the 49 page government report with the findings - this is HUGE! The defense looks really shady misleading the judge about it today.
It's means the lawyer lied. The category is called "dangerous". This is huge.
@@armstrong2388 we shalll see friday
Yeah… this issue is a game changer… should’ve settled…
I knew the defense was slimy, but I just thought that is how they are. Now withholding evidence and misleading the jury is, well, I have never seen anything like this. Wow!
found the article. it states "All Children's had widespread problems with communication. "There was no evidence of any lines of communication or accountability" between risk ,anagement and "any of the 17 committees, councils, and departments"
It's going to continue until they are held accountable for their actions 😢
just because it's written in a book, that doesn't mean it's true.
Just another articled, along the lines of the Netflix documentary, planted by their PR team that they hired before all their court cases started.
@@Silly.Old.Sisyphus and we all know how accurate the media is
@@Silly.Old.Sisyphus that's true, but what you just said is written in an online book of comments, so how do we know that's true either?? In any case, i started telling my students that about books fifty years ago, and the book i had in mind at the time is a book called the Bible. Can't think why i'm bringing it up now, except just imagine if Palestinians and Israelis knew that Kynszch Didales has proven beyond any doubt that both of their precious books that they claim give them the right to live there are plagiarisms and revisions of fantastic fictions that are 37,000 years old, which all started with the number 29 - so they don't in reality have anything to fight about! Someone should tell that to NetanYahoo or whatever his name is.
This case will never be over, appeals will hold courts up, they wont see a dime before they die
Yeah. There is always this possibility. But the longer it takes, the more difficult it is for the hospital to keep this out of the main stream media. They have to protect their reputation. Netflix is waiting for episode 2 🤣
Most likely outcome. This trial means very little. If the Ks win and JHACH win an appeal, Anderson could petition for a loan for of the awarded amount. Only problem is that they will need to pay it back if it’s overturned. Netflix and book release are their insurance policy. The story of maya will fade away into the abyss and she will draw her desperate need for attention through social media. Anderson will then get on will trawling the streets for more victims to exploit. Same old same old 🤷♂️
Your thinking this family is the only one with a case there are hundreds of family's lining up to do the same thing to jhatch they need it rested or the hospital sold and renamed
@@leticiaarbore2979 it is being covered by the media.....what are you talking about?
I though the trial was over next week?
In case you missed it- 9:02:05 The defense is going to make a motion to have a jury member removed. I bet he or she has been smiling back at Maya.
I heard one of them say “Miya”, the other day, and Miya turned to look & gave a smile.
@@LMR-dt9tr Oh wow! That's probably the one he wants removed.
ALL of the Defense witnesses have been smiling at the Jurors.
@@chelseababe01some of them creepily....
There was a guy that was smiling back and forth with her at a few points.. But there is also another guy who is suspect to me.
Smiley Religious Nurse Makin me nervous
Behold the power of Jesus.....
What is that nurse smiling about???? Scary....
Desperately trying to scare Maya im guessing.
If you're referring to nurse Flores, I fully agree. She's disturbing (reminded me of the horror movie Smile) and her chuckle at the end of the testimony even more so.
Yes, Maya certainly had her share of psycho nurses in that hospital/prison.
@@marybryner5562in her own home too, it seems
No she lived with loving parents and a loving brother.
The only psychos were employed at JHACH
How’s the weather in your part of Australia David? It’s a glorious morning here.
Take a drink every time Amanda Flores says “shopkins” to try and prove how well she knew Maya 😵💫
This might have been the most scripted testimony yet, felt so rehearsed with key phrases we’ve heard over and over again and when she gave a response to a question she wasn’t prepped for you could immediately see her expression flatten like she was pondering if that was the right thing to say. And why did she keep fake smiling at such inappropriate times!!? Uuugh this woman’s chaotic and sporadic expressions are deeply unsettling…
It's really really stressful testifying in court. People cope in different ways. Don't forget these people have had their nursing notes to refresh with and we've seen Shopkins mentioned a bit in those notes. Also not a lot of patients are there for 14 weeks, at least not kids like Maya who weren't gravely ill and could interact with others all day every day She'd have probably stood out.
Agree! I feel bad for her patients.
So many staff and witnesses did!! I think it just shows how they all knew about her life for that those and Meghan Trainor
You have found every thing “deeply troubling/unsettling”.
OMG-Amanda Flores expressions, statements, and taking of patient's medical information on her phone (without patient or parental knowledge) off JH premises-HIPPPA violation!!!
Why wasn't the EEG Room video shown? I think it would show Maya being left alone a long time. It would also show that she didn't get out of the bed.
They played like two teeny Snippets of it and defense lied and said that they lost all of it and I think they found it later may be in Evidence but we're not going to see it cuz it's 48 hours
Wow!! I never saw that coming the hospital getting a corporate reprimand 😮
crystal balls don't always work.
It’s so weird her not making eye contact with the lawyers AND judge, but she is facing, winking and smiling inappropriately to the jury. Hopefully, the jury isn’t buying her being fake.
Yes, That nurse was so weird.
It's always inappropriate to do that
That nurse was soooooo weird in so many ways! Who keeps smiling stupidly about nothing on a Witness stand in a Court room!???
That alone was so enormously distracting, the Jury will only remember how crazy her smiling was!
Her daddy learned her up real good.
@@sallysantos524Religious freak! 😬 If that attitude walked into my sick room, S he’d be instructed to “walk w Christ, the f on out” of my room! There’s no room for her, & that Christian attitude in a hospital setting! Especially not from a nurse! Don’t even! 🤨
Big smile at jury while lawyers approach judge like she’s playing a game.
Yeah I think the whole time she was up there it was very weird. She kept smiling at the jury like she was a cheerleader and the way she always turned and talked to the jury reminded me of Amber Hurd.
She is a master manipulator for sure
She is well versed in acting lol
@@Chat_du_blondeyou mean like at 2:01:12 where the defense witness just starts cheesing real big at the jury? Or how about the numerous other times before this time frame where she's staring and smiling at the jury when there's no questions or anything? Or the many other defense witnesses before, like the male billing expert who was winking at the jurors 🤦♀️. Defense witnesses are weird
So if someone smiles at her she’s not supposed to smile back? 🤷♀️
Hold on here a second!!! Medical people do NOT communicate by phone by mail by facebook once a patient is discharged....no matter how "close" you are to the patient. that is unethical! And NOPE we dont go to work on a day off to provide "condolences" to a patient losing a family member. Get real lawyer. OMG WHAT BS IS THIS?????
Agreed! There’s ethical guidelines that are to be followed by all employees in any line of work. This case is a chit show🎪 🤹🏻♀️
And staff sure as heck do NOT take personal pictures of their patients....this is NOT a friendship...its a MEDICAL relationship. it is UNETHICAL AND AGAINST NURSING PROFESIONNALISM
Of course nurses don’t do these things!
Nurses at JHACH do as little as possible.
We all know that by now, no need to tell us.
It’s a good way to lose your job. It’s unethical.
I am a nurse and no we don’t do that. It’s unethical and a little creepy in my opinion.
Two letters IJ 😅 this should just seal the deal full stop.
Amanda thinks this is an audition for SNL.
I had to step away. Are they completely done for the evening?
6:44:35 I like this fella. I know he is a doctor but he testified he hasn’t practiced medicine as a OB/GYN in many years due to his own medical condition…he has however sat on hospital boards & committees and had more of a corporate role and responsibility.
Out of all the ‘expert’ witnesses we’ve heard from, I found his testimony very credible. He clearly knows the ins and outs of large corporate institutions and has done his research. He articulates himself well in a manner that’s easy to follow.
I feel like he’s earned his fee…unlike other ‘experts’ we’ve heard from in this case.
Who knew he’d drop this bombshell on the last day of testimony though?! Is this a tactic??
They couldn't bring it in until rebuttal
💥 I don't understand how JHH is getting out of this horrible mess ?
@@helensmusings yea I guess they were waiting for the defense hospital administration expert to testify that JHACH was operating at a satisfactory standard
@cathbooth1980 he's the only one testifying for free because he is so outraged at the hospitals behaviour, I get the feeling this one has been a very long play in the making. There's so much ground work you have to lay to get it all in the right place, it's a masterful job of the lawyers Anderson and Whitney
Go back to school you need it
the defense seem very intent on performance review from beady not coming in. first it doesn't exist now its in archives.
I'd love to see it come in. But we all know they're gonna delay it as much as possible. Probably enough to where it can't be admitted any more.
i think they have to deal with the other evidence about the hospital being investigated that they lied about today. Judge not happy @@emmalethmayfair9742
i have a feeling that beedy is involved somehow in the investigation they lied about aswell and its in the review that's coincidently missing. @@emmalethmayfair9742
What is this nurse smiling at?????
I don’t know but she was pretty funny.
Anyone and anything. Weird
She seems pulled out of "Smile" 2022
She is disturbing
The fact that the defense didn't present the 48 hour video in the eeg room proves she didn't walk or attempt to use her legs. It also proves she was left alone for a long time.
It proves nothing. There is no way the hospital left her alone for a length of time as all nursing notes were subpoenaed and were comprehensive and covered her whole admission. The defense didn't need to play anything.
I think part of the testimony was that they requested more video and they said they didn't have any. They believe the hospital destroyed evidence.
@@sharonhoward884Nurses don’t note every hour for one pt it is usually either when meds are needed or like morning and night so there is a long period of time Maya could be left alone for. She defecated on herself so she was clearly left alone for a while at one time - not to mention it does still mean they did not catch her lying or moving or anything otherwise it would be the first thing showed.
These comments are so disgusting. I’m so glad Maya, Beata, and their family got justice!!! ❤❤❤
Mr Hunter, sit down. You’re lying.
The line of questioning about the EEG room has been so misleading. Plaintiff’s lawyer keeps referring to her being “taken DOWN to the surveillance room” as if it was some creepy dark surveillance room in the basement. Even the nurse today was so confused as to what he was talking about. I don’t think defense did a good job of attempting to clarify that until today. It was literally just a regular hospital room on the same floor right next to the nurses station but it happened to have extra equipment in it. And zero evidence of mistreatment came out from that video. I don’t believe for a single second she was allowed to defecate on herself. Even the video shows a nurse transferring her to a commode that’s like 1-2 feet from the bed exactly as you would expect. A commode would never be left touching a patients bed as if a patient would be allowed to just roll over and go whenever they wanted. When someone is wheelchair bound they’re most likely going to just pivot them onto a commode exactly like they did with her in the video. That whole line of questioning was extremely misleading and to me seems like they’re making up stories about abusive treatment in the hospital.
I’m proud to say I’ve never fallen out or shouted at a work colleague in 43 yrs . I’m direct speaking but I use humour to get my point across usually . There’s always a way to make a point without arguing or hurting someone’s feelings
I agree with you there 💯
@@gertiealba4453 I believe her stories. I have been yelled at plenty of times during times of stress by co workers and clients. My mom was like that...guess that's why I could cope with high strung people and be quiet when others reach that peak. Keeping your cool is the best way to deescalate. i think her problem was someone else created a problem she had to deal with.
that's NOTHING! i've NEVER SHOUTED at anyone for 143 years, and we used to live in a 'ole in t' road, an our Dad would bash us wiv nuclear bombs every 5 minutes an' you try tellin' that to young people these days and they won't believe yer
@@mai325 LOL ur a you know what
I agree 100% with you on everything you said!
I also think Bedy just had that “story” she manufactured rehearsed to say because she knew she would be asked about this again.
And how did everybody like the little show that was put on with her dad and getting her some meds from those assistants? She purposely mouthed the words on my legs in so much pain. She's seventeen years old. She could have gotten up, motioned to him, and walked out of the courtroom to get a pain pill ( if that was really what she took). It's all for show people.
Yep her dramatics don’t fool me or anyone else with eyes and ears
When was this? I skipped through some of the feed.
After Jack’s testimony about the photos.
@@LMR-dt9tr thanks! 👌
I missed that! I'm still laughing at her talking about homecoming
Negligent training. Letting 3rd parties take photos without orders
Ummm…..You don’t need an order to take a clinical photo of a patient.
The question is what part those pictures played into the actual clinical diagnosis. According to them it was ordered by a physician, then by CPS, later ordered by the physician but approved by CPS and put in M.K. record. I don't know & don't get the point of them.
@@emmalethmayfair9742It has been stated numerous times that they were not put in her medical file. Bedy wrote about it in one note but the pictures were never put in her chart.
You are so funny David 😂😂😂😂. Your body of work tells me more about you’re fragility than you know of mine.
Who
How in the heck is this hospital still in business after the joint commission flagged them as in jeopardy.
According to Maya, Ms. Bedy was always there. Ms. Bedy probably lived in the hospital, no days off, no other patients to visit. She's super extra special.
@@gertiealba4453 why did family drop lawsuit against Bedy?
@@user-cd9on3nu2iThe family was paid
Exactly.
Literally nothing Maya has said at this trial is credible.
She's just so used to "grown-ups" just accepting on face value EVERYTHING she says, no matter how counter-factual, or childishly obvious the falsehood, that she can't help but lie with complete abandon as a default.
Awesome comment
Seems that pasting the 2019 Tampa news article about systemic problems at JHAC, goes against community guidelines ? This is the news headline from 2019 "New federal report details widespread problems at All Children’s"
It's clearly reads the problem at this hospital is systemic based on the report
“I’m trying to land this plane ✈️ today” -love it
What's DOH differential?
Anderson: Whose hands are in the picture? MK: The 2 on the left are mine....the other one is not mine. 😂 Surprised they aren't claiming the hospital made her grow a 3rd hand😣, such a charade.
That’s hilarious 😂
claiming it was Bedy's hand which the bedside nurse testified was hers. Bedy is not African American.
That was funny. She has no idea about those pics. 2 sets. one before she left and one when she came back. the one in the wheelchair may have been made at a different time.
@@Estimator00 She probably can't remember much other than what she's been coached by her attorneys to say. She didn't do herself any favors with her attitude, I was waiting for her head to start spinning😮
@@lthomas8313 totally agree!
I will say it again! I like this judge!
I agree, I think he’s being fair to both sides.
Is this a replay ?
Missing the time stamps the last couple of days.
After the homecoming picture explanation, I think we're looking at someone who's been trained when to play the victim. Pain before (not specified where) but fine the next minute for pictures. Convenient.
Wait so because you take a picture your not in pain 🤔 ? Or because you smile your not in pain ? ?
That's not the point. She us suing the hospital for ruining her life. She claims she never goes out, has no friends, won't go to college, etc. This is all obviously a lie...
@@ThrillOfIt919You clearly have comprehension problems and hear what you want to. She didn’t say she NEVER goes out. She said it doesn’t happen often and it’s hard to do. She didn’t say she has NO friends. She actually spoke about some of her friends. She said she doesn’t know if she will go to college right away, she doesn’t know what she wants to do. Pay attention ffs!!!
Yeah… but what matters is the evidence of the 3 month imprisonment. The rest is MOB lawyers BS… she’s a teenager who’s got a syndrome but is not dead nor an angel. 🤣
So taking a picture means you are not in pain?!? You trolls are absolutely ridiculous and dense and have clearly never experienced chronic pain or any mental health issues or you’re just completely heartless and dense with zero critical thinking skills. It’s so ridiculous!
Did defense attorneys coach their witnesses to keep smiling at the jury???
I’m guessing they did? I thought it was really smarmy…
No, they coached them in the art of perjury
@@Ester10267 That too 😏
It's just more proof of the abysmal level of lawyering in this entire trial from both sides. To coach a witness to do that is so patently condescending to a jury. They see right through it and immediately start wondering why you're resorting to such thick-eared tactics instead of just relying on the testimony to stand for itself.
Did plaintiffs’ attorneys coach the family on how to cry on cue?
Oh wow game changer with these videos, tough call,
limiting the rebuttal allowed time didn't address the defense objecting to everything
That last recording played of beedy calling beata is 100% same voice interupting the calls between maya and her mum. More perjury from defence witnesses🙄
Agreed!!! Absolutely identical!!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
From a certain point (don't forget the DCF order changed 5 times) JHACH were told they could also supervise phone calls etc. This is because there were times over some weekends where DCF person wasn't available.
Lol nah
I've been watching all the lawyer reacts to channels and they are going off 😅😅😅 what a bombshell jhatch was under fire for at risk factors during the time Maya was hospitalised it's sooo explosive what have the defence been hiding ..... An absolute bombshell to their case Pandora's box of inconsistencies and medical neglect 😮
The nurse amanda Flores is scary. She smiles at the most inappropriate times at the jury. She comes off as very fake and it’s funny to see how irritated she gets with Maya’s lawyer lol she can’t even pretend to hold it back. She’s so easily triggered. I am so incredibly happy Maya and her family won!! They deserve the world
Her testimony/behaviour speaks volumes.
Yes, she sounded like the spoiled rotten, lying brat that she is.
@@candybon101Or a 17 year old teenager who feels violated 😢
@@ninamartinez5171 Oh please! I will feel violated as a 17-year-old in those skimpy outfits!
Doesn’t matter what we think of her clothes, photos, smiles, demeanor, etc. what matter are the facts.
Yes, how coached she’s been.
If all that comes out of this case is the fact that this hospital's dark little secrets about babies dying in their heart unit because of bad management comes to light then I will be happy. Too many times mistakes made are buried literally and figuratively and if this makes patients and family aware of this its good enough for me!!
actually it did come to light in an article in Tampa Bay Times.
@@user-cd9on3nu2iWhich only a handful of people ever read. This case put it out there for the world to see.
@@user-cd9on3nu2i living in SA didnt know anything. So now its globally known
This whole Trial has been so unorganized by both sides
That's the truth!!!
Easy to say coming from someone with no qualifications.
@@tiatokkesdal1745 Well judging from all the other trials i have seen.
It's an unmitigated sh*t-show from start to finish. It's hard to feel anything but disgust for the justice system and disdain for everyone involved in this charade.
When is the trial supposed to be over? I thought they had a time frame to wrap this up?
Who is left to trust anymore?
not the jury, that's for sure, given that TH-cam commenters are representative of the population from which jury members are drawn
@@mai325 how dare you! Florida juries are the finest in the world! Who else would have let Casey Anthony off?
God almighty 😊
Don't think that way. If you yourself are trustworthy then certainly there are others of us who also are.
@@Silly.Old.Sisyphus OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS YOU ARE SO RIGHT I LIVE HERE OUCH I FEEL THAT BURN
This boils down to FACTS VS EMOTIONS
Seems like it
Nope
Except the facts make both sides look bad.
What bothers me about today's testimony was that the defense was trying to communicate to the jury the fact that Maya is fine now, no medical problems. BUT that is not the point; the point is how she was treated during the 3 -1/2 months that she was in the hospital back in 2015 and how it had a lingering effect on her life.
All they want is to destroy Maya's credibility. Her tactic since day one has been to make her look like a liar and a bad person (strong focus on swearing, aggressive behaviour etc., pretending to be in pain) so that the jurors don't sympathise with her. In my opinion, it is a disgusting way to defend yourself and only shows that you have nothing more than that.
@@juliab5525I think the point of showing her swearing, and unruly behavior wasn't to show she was a bad person at all but to show the effects of Ketamine withdrawal.
The only lingering effect it had is her continued ability to breath and walk around. It also debunks the absurd claims she'll need a lifetime of K from the K-for-cash quacks to the tune of $5 million 💵💵💵
Also, ketamine user here for depression. I have no withdrawal and don’t have an addiction to it. They are now doing Ketamine IVs for depression!!
@@juliab5525She IS a liar though so what's your point? She's a vengeful nasty piece of work.
The immaturity of the witness Amanda Cook, was just silly. Smiles too much, winked at one of the jurors..yuck. She wants her 15min. of notoriety. She doesn't even really look at either atty and smiles way too much at the jurors..she's just too immature. She acts like this is a silly joke and not to be taken seriously.
Cringe worthy
It was pathetic indeed. Both nurses did not help defense. Shouldn’t have brought them in.
That would be Amanda Flores.
@@emmalethmayfair9742They also stated that her name at the time of hospital admission was Cook!
@@soupnfreshno they don’t. Not usually
Ican remember back in the day when doctors (people) didn't believe in PMS , horrible cramps,menopause symptoms, debilitating migranes, "yuppy diseas.....but big pharma gets people addicted to meds everyday
Looks like just a scratch
Reading most of these comments leads me to believe MOST of you have never had a child in the hosp. For a lengthy stay if ever. Some of you probably don’t even have children. You have no ideal what it is like when you have no clue how to help your child day in and day out and every single person/ doctor wants to tell you something different, and because your super stressed and have no clue how to help or what the real issue is, no one wants to listen, you don’t know who to believe, then because you recite what the last doctor told you or did now all the sudden you the mom is the issue. Give me a dang break. All that Mother wanted was for her baby to be back to just being a kid again and to not be in pain. Yea she was a nurse and a good one from what I have seen, but this hosp. Had too many young fresh out of med school nurses throwing up red flags over BS, which In turn pushed this mom to the breaking point to which she sacrificed her own life so her daughter could come back home to be with her family. 😢❤😢❤😢❤
Beata chose to scar her family for rest their lives by taking her life, in such a dramatic fashion. For being such a “spiritual and God fearing” person, she played God by taking her life rather than trusting God’s will.
My daughter died on the operating table. So yes I do know how it feels. After she died I wanted to be with her so badly but I had two sons that needed me. Only a very disturbed woman would do that. The hospital is not responsible for the "pain" Maya feels today and they are not responsible for Beata's death. These are some messed up folks
@@Estimator00 exactly! I’m so sorry for your loss💕 You are so strong for knowing and trusting God’s will for your life especially as a parent to your other children. May God shine His face upon you and your family.
@@LinneaSanchez Thank you. I miss her every second of every day.
@@LinneaSanchez your situation is no where near what is going on in this trial. So you just proved my point
The problem is that you really can't trust maya's recall. It's clear that she cursed and carried on in the presence of several people and she doesn't remember a thing.
To use Mr. Whitney’s words (regarding her cursing) …
“SO WHAT?!”
@@marybryner5562 Yeah, who cares?
So why perjure yourself on the stand pretending you have no memory of it...?
So what??
She is suing for 220 million based on the fact that her recall is more accurate.
The fact that she lied in her opening statement that she never swore and is now going back on it.
Not believable about anything.
She may have not remembered everything if she was going through withdrawal and/or in pain??? I know I don't remember everything when I'm in pain, soooo ya. Especially being 10, that's really young
@@rachela4071 "Selective" memory... CRPS really is the answer for every lie isn't it? 🤔
Omg. Can't wait till the next trial starts 11.15 pm Australia 🦘 time and counting
Never in all my time spent in the hospital as a child did any of my nurses have time to play with me. 🤣
How long ago and were you there under a DCF court order? If not then you can't compare. A child under a shelter order is something staff are alerted to & instructed to ensure the child's well being while a patient is supported.
Quit smiling! It’s not a photo opp or audition. Very painful watching Christian nurse. If she was honest she wouldn’t get tripped up.
If it comes to this point: The defence should be penalised for deliberately covering up the hospital's systemic failings and speculating that the plaintiffs would not have time to uncover them.
What????
@@rachela4071what’s the confusion?
The name of this case should be. Are you smarter than a 9 year old?
They would have to answer NOPE
Maybe 'Are you smarter than the deceased' since Maya had it ingrained in her to play the part from a small child, even before this particular event, up until the mother checked out. All this exaggeration comes directly from what she has been taught. Also think she is the one in the family pushing all the litigation. Jack just seems like a wet noodle that goes along with anything.
@@bobroberts8082 Jack has no balls. He depended on his wife's income just to live in paradise. Which Fla really ain't.
And if the answer is YES, are you prepared to pay 200mil to said 9 year old
And is a very conniving teenager. She sees $$$$
How did this case come to be on Netflix?
The kowloski’s pimped out their “story”
Greed $$$$$
@@LinneaSanchez how much were they paid? I just started looking into this case
Greg anderson the attorney wrote a screen play.
@@rrtcadhahaha!!!
Oh my goodness gracious lord help me please explain did i hear that Maya doesn't have RSDS ? Please remember that Maya was only a 10 year old child who's acting far more mature than her 17 years .
Wow, all the other chats said to stay away from Law and Crime chat. I see why
@@spalanki352😂😂😂
It’s so much easier to be nice
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I find that Kathy Bedi having disputes with fellow colleagues & being written up is what it is. Her employer verbally reprimanded her. I see nothing in there that says patient. So I take it at face value.
She worked there for a long time. She had words with a co-worker. Wonder how many people have never had a disagreement with a co-worker.
I've never yelled at a co-worker even once, or thrice. Nor been accused of holding down a kid with my knees on his chest.
I see she's pure evil. God bless her 🙏 ❤
Cathi Bedy blowing up at a Co-Worker speaks volumes about her character - or lack-thereof, her unprofessionalism, and her BAD BEHAVIOURS!
@@bobroberts8082Most people lol
He rides on the backs of our greatest thinkers because he is unable to think for himself. Live in the present 📿 there’s happiness here 🙏
I would like to start by stating that I was 100% pro-planiff at the beginning of the planiff case. I started to have my doubts near the end and then evidence during additional testimony in the defense case, had began to change my position. I was still trying to keep an open-mind until today, as the last witness for the planiff rebuttal completed her testimony. It sealed my position to stand behind the defense.
Miya testified concerning her HS Homecoming photos with her 4 things she wanted to touch on - item number 4, she told the jury that “the defense went as far as to look up my friends account to get that picture!”
Which we have now witnessed in real time of the situation throughout this entire case, ‘if she says it, doesn’t make it true.’
We have to rely on the evidence, not her interpretation of how she views the truth in her own mind.
Hopefully, the jury picked up on this today and will rely on the evidence of truth in this case.
When does the jury decide? How much longer do they have before this is wrapped up?
Likewise, I was side maya at the start and didn’t watch the Netflix doco because I knew I was primed to empathise. . I’m a mum and I have a wonderful relationship with my daughter and it was hard for me not to fall in the trap of placing myself in their position. My opinion evolved as the trial went on as I listened to the evidence and the compelling arguments from commenters. I still felt sorry for maya but I don’t have any for her now. I questioned myself constantly. In the end, team kowalski took on the opportunity of a life time - 200M and people will sell their souls for that kind of money. Greed is at the heart of this trial but no amount of money will fill their empty souls. However, I do have a soft spot for Kyle, his pain and loss is the only one I believe.
I agree and it was a mistake for Maya to testify specifically about the Homecoming pictures. I was a bit surprised. However, there are many problems with both sides in this case. But there won't be a $200M verdict.
I hope jury makes a decision based on evidence not sympathy. At the start plaintiff claimed JHACH starved Maya for 5 days. Later on it came out she was starved for 5 days prior to admittance to JHACH. It was Dr. Hannah who failed and sent his patient to JHACH. Based on evidence, JHACH was right. after release from hospital no ketamine, no flare ups to this date.
@@jllore1917I’ll admit that there is something the hospital is hiding and they won’t let go of that bone but it’s not enough to convince me that they should loose this case. The kowalskis case should never have come to trial.
Well there it is proving how incredibly inconsistent she is. The hospital saved her. Had they not intervened she would be immobile in a hospital bed and DEFINITELY not at homecoming.
Doubtful
Lmao yeah that’s called CRPS, it’s not consistent. Thanks for proving to everyone just how ignorant you are. The hilarious part is that the defense keeps putting up witnesses like you and the jury is seeing right through it
Exactly, “ignorant” is right on!
@ 8:42 The judge says that there is no evidence of Negligence JHH getting away.
It's up to the jury not the judge...
@@Gabriel-hf1yyYou wanna bet?
Yeah. That’s what he says.., but the 2 pending issues will cause a lot of damage to this hospital. Let’s see what happens on Monday.
@ninamartinez5171 they're toast.
Lie after lie from JH
BAM
Okay, watching mayas video depo and how she hasn't had any flare ups or on medication...i feel like it all kinda stopped after her mom passed. isn't that odd??
Very!
Quite the co-inky-dink...
Mayas and Jacks testimonies today were disingenuous and contradictory and Maya showed a vengeful attitude. They both shoe horned in excuses from baby books to my leg hurt. The nurses were lying on oath apparently. Not a good look and I do not believe the wise on the jury would have thought anything less.
We definitely got a glimpse of Maya today. She dropped her guard and her ego got the best of her. Thinking she might regret that slip when she reflects back.
They were obviously coached and upset about the defense /what they brought out about her. It's a trial, did they not know what they were in for?
Lol
The jury believes the family, not the hospital. That much is clear already
“Maya showed a vengeful attitude”
What a joke that is!
Maya isn’t vengeful - she is the victim of that Hospital’s many atrocities against her and her Mother and her Father!
The vengefulness is ALL from JHACH right from the start!
is there a verdict
yes. i am a truth teller ver(itas) dict(um). what would you like to know?
i don't think anyone wants to listen to a stone, or is there something else laying beneath that stone 😨
Bedy’s voice on that last recording matches all the recordings of maya and moms calls in the hospital, so glad they will play it for the jury
snap out of it!
It doesn't at all, not one bit. What drugs are you on?
It wasn't bedy
This judge is really good, knows when to take a break and is able to put his foot down when needed. This is a massive blow to the defense if the IJ Report is dealing with a widespread systemic issue.
They know it’s a blow to their case too that’s why they are fighting it so hard
Maya wasn't in any imminent jeopardy from being in the hospital, she was however, from remaining with her mother.
You can't say if she was or was not in imminent danger. her mother brought her to the hospital as soon as she believed was needed. That shows minimizing risk, she believed Mayas awnsers was in Ketamin. instead of taking the child from the family be a recource.@@sharonhoward884
@@sharonhoward884nope
Was there some significance to Maya & her dad wearing pink today?
8:18:30 phone call between Beata & Bedy.
So Beata didn't accept or refuse...interesting
@@emmalethmayfair9742I think the more important part and the reason for listening to the recording is because that is the EXACT SAME voice interrupting Maya’s calls with her mother. Bedy lied and said it wasn’t her, the hospital lied and said it wasn’t her, Laporte lied and said it was her and not Bedy!! Ridiculous bunch of liars who are caught!! That is 100% Cathi Bedy!!!!
Conspiracy theorists seems to have odd blind spots, they'll see four pictures side by side of four different people and swear it's the same person at the scene of 4 mass casualty events, and you wonder what's wrong with their brain. Same here, the voice is so clearly not Bedy, that either these people claiming it is have a piece of their frontal cortex missing, or maybe they're just lying 🤔
That pink shirted nurse came across as a psycho imo.
I agree! I am sure she was probably just nervous, hopefully! Lmao!!! However, she creeped me out watching her live!
My thoughts . Sugary sweet and scary
Well Maya liked her and birds of a feather right?
She is
Would have liked to see Maya’s response when these care givers were testifying
The fact that theu find relevance in Maya attending homecoming, halloween, or any other outong - 7 years AFTER JHACH terrorized her, is absolutely absurd! She's a teenage girl struggling to have a meaningful life after everything she's been through; why shouldn't she? Seems like the defense wants her to suffer for eternity, never leave her house, and forever be stuck in the mindset and social standing of a 10 year old child. Shameful.
Did you watch Maya’s deposition played on day 28?? She’s healthy, working out every morning, participating in PE class, and NO PAIN OR SIGNS OF CRPS and that was taken shortly after her hospital stay…
She said she rarely went out. Her quality of life wasn't good. If she is going to make that claim then yes it is on the table for evidence. The Kowalskis are claiming compensation for that.
$200 million represents a whole lot of suffering! The hospital’s attorneys have an obligation to question…
She has CRPS, she’s not paralyzed. There are people everyday that are walking around us that suffer from chronic pain. My husband is one of them. He never complains because he gets rude comments like people spew on here that have no idea about it.
🙄
Are closings today
Monday.
50 million?!!!
The judge may as well be a lawyer for the defense.
lol
Im kinda of liking the judge who's trying to remain fair and balanced 🤔
LOL I thought that about the plaintiff. guess that means he is balanced
🤣. Fact
This case is bigger than Maya
It’s the systemic failure and the possible IJ (and related ‘missing paperwork) that is being tried here- 5:13:00 onwards is where the real case is
The defence trying to use Jack and Maya's depos against them, as if "I'm doing better now" erases everything that happened in 2016 is a joke. Chronic pain flares and remits. her doing better in 2019 is completely irrelevant and doesn't prove she was "faking" it in 2015-16. JH just. doesn't. get it.
Also the question of "are you taking ketamine now" are slimy. of course the answer will be no, there was a court order prohibiting it. Which their not allowed to explain. It's so gross how the defence continually twisted these points to fit their narrative.
Were you an inexperienced yachtsman David? Do you still carry that guilt?
Too many inconsistencies from Maya and Father. Maya sounds rehearsed. She was 9 or 10 however she is recalling the events as if she read it in a book or someone told her what happened. Her words are similar to how the lawyer asked questions of the other witnesses. Not convinced. All this is supposedly based on a 9/10 year old childs memory, who was in excruciating pain.
She always says “with CRPS…” or “people with CRPS” you are exactly on target…she read a book about people’s perception of their CRPS…she has never said “with MY CRPS…” it’s easy to catch a liar if you listen and point out her discrepancy’s
@@NrsLisa Spot on. A textual analysis would be very revealing, a forensic examination of a *transcript* of the testimony rather than an examination of a video of the testimony. There was an interesting example of this in the Madeleine McCann case examining the parents use of the passive voice and distancing language like using pronouns instead of names of loved ones.
@@NrsLisagreat point 🤔
@@NrsLisashe has said "my CRPS" on the stand before but I still don't believe she had it or has it. She claimed Dr Kirkpatrick took "hours and hours and hours" to carefully diagnose her and he testified to it being less than an hour. So many lies & a hunger for revenge.
There is something very wrong with the Kowalski family.
You got that right. 1st not American, 2nd lost their mother wife sister cousin Auntie friend Co worker it's absolutely horrible and was all available 😢
Why explain...
@@ninamartinez5171ur comment don't make any sense...
They are professional victims!
@@TheOtherBolynGirl101great description. Minus Kyle, he’s actually a victim here.
Immediate jeopardy!!!!!! Where's the documents defence what are you hiding how many other Maya's are out there 🙏😢
Yeah, we wouldn’t want her to sue the judge 😂
Maya: “ I was stripped and de-robed down to my Shopkins Bra…most traumatic experience of my entire life, this traumatic event gave me PTSD, I’m now homebound and have no quality of life…BUT I can’t really remember all the details”
I don’t recall the planiffs calling a witness to confirm her claim of PTSD. Correct?
I have PTSD and was hospitalized at a rehab facility following a traumatic event and then again years later following a trigger. PTSD changes your life immediately and forever. You learn to avoid certain situations that remind you of that trauma, in order to avoid a trigger.
I’m really surprised that she’s there in court or listening to testimony that could trigger her PTSD. As she explains that has confined her.
Today, was the first time that she displayed any discomfort of what was going on in court - and it was after her father’s testimony with the photos.
Yeah and it was hardly "stripped" she removed one article of clothing, a t-shirt and did this herself despite later saying she was totally dependent on others to dress and undress her. Also in the second set of photos, if you look, the t-shirt isn't even off. It is only pulled up at the back and is still on her body.
The bra was shopkins too??
Does Maya see a psychiatrist or is she in on going therapy?
@@sharonhoward884so you know for sure she didn’t like it ? Who are you to say what she feels comfortable with
Do you know what. I find it great that her father helps her as much as he does, mine would have too, I believe he would have. He did not have my mom to guide him. Not everyone has parents like that. They are great. Also her mom, my mom never got the chance since she died before I got sick.
Maybe he should help her and move out of the house they found Beata in. It's been nearly 7 years and I don't understand that part. At all
What does "Buried the Dracula" mean?
~ Statement made by Defense Attorney Hunter regarding the Joint Commission "IJ" survey finding.
He thought he had HIDDEN the EVIDENCE that proved the hospital was a mess so the plaintiffs couldnt find it...but Dr Corcoran has connections and was on a call about how the hospital was in trouble from inspectors and in immediate Jeopardy of losing their certification to stay open
This happens to hospitals all the time. Fed Regs are voluminous.
What drugs is nurse Cooked on such inappropriate affect smiling at the jury at inappropriate times at first I thought what a happy women till Anderson started to ask her questions now I’m like wait a minute are you cray cray
Lol I thought the same… very strange 🥴
Same feeling, she’s a nut job!
Haha that’s so true!!
Oh my that Doctor she has a God complex she is a witch!
oh my god shes finally sharing her story and speaking up! oh my god she finally got the trial she been fighting for, for years! let the girl live she 17 and she is speaking out
Maya is very well spoken. But, her testimony seems very rehearsed even dramatic. And I am left wondering how she remembers all these details that occured when she was age 10. I feel sad for her loss, but I just can’t buy the medical diagnosis and the “trauma” of being in shorts and a bra in the hospital. Working in a hospital, I have to say people are in robes with nothing on underneath. They tie in the back. This is normal in medical care. “Disrobing” “Stripped”. A little much.
Sorry, testimony is a girl with an AMAZING memory and so rehearsed. She remembers everything but remembers NOTHING about cussing etc
selective memory.
She never said she doesn’t remember at all she said she plainly never did it
If it was against your will, you'll remember.
@@paulineaquilina5328 guess everyone who heard her is lying. Reported by more than one person in sworn testimony.
@@SomethingStrange910 unless you are on a drug buzz.
Man thinks he knows all yet knows very little ⚪️⚫️🏌️♂️🧐▶️📚💻⛵️✍️ = 😞
he likes to muzzle the mouths of women to stop their speech. this man is truly a misogynist underneath. what he may not know is that his is merely a pet for my entertainment.
Christian nurse is lying about surveillance room. Committed to defending hospital and if hears wrongful actions, says “I don’t recall”.
Not a credible witness.
She DOES use nicknames “frequent flyer”. Very inexperienced & naive or just plain dishonest.
Bottom line. The child is walking and thriving following a treatment plan similar to the hospital. And NO KETAMINE. She did not die without it as Dr. Kilpatrick predicted to the mother. A Board-certified hospital and board-certified employees, licensed social workers and investigators with all their experience and knowledge with children identified the problem with this child's treatments, followed protocol and put this child on the road to recovery or at least improve her quality of life without dependency on large doses of k. It took time for these professionals to access. The mother was interfering with that process. Authorities did what they had to do and IF sedating (which means putting to sleep) the child with large doses of K was the proper treatment it would have continued. Their observation included 24-hour video surveillance in order to see if what was being observed by those taking care of Maya was true and pictures of the patient's body in order to record, compare and observe and yes protect their record. My question is why the patient fight hard to prevent the pictures if she were not self-mutilating. She was wearing equivalent to a sports bra and shorts. More coverage than many other pictures and videos taken by others. With pictures both the hospital and social services could then decide the truth. Remember the father was giving conflicting information whether it be at the time of his interview and including other times. Beata should have waited, cooperated and given social services the time they needed to investigate and find it was safe to return Maya to her care. Why did she resist all help provided to her especially Dr. Teppa's referral to a mental health specialist. That doctor would have been tantamount in her pleading to take back Maya's treatment. Beata was not a medical doctor nor a specialist in CRPS treatment. She was an IV nurse working at a drug store. The question was and has been by Andersen to those who specialize in pain management, are you specialized in CRPS? Although Beata thought she was, she was not. 40 doctors' guys. 3 hospitals. Countless observations and treatment plans. And she chose doctors who were not board certified, could not accept insurance and one who practiced in Mexico of all places. Does she have CRPS? Many who specialize in the treatment of CRPS say no. However, it is a syndrome and not a disease. Diseases are ruled out and we are left with symptoms which are referred to as a syndrome. There are many. The last text on her phone " Retaliation". What did that mean?
Listen to the podcast nobody should believe me, you’ll get some answers there.
I did and yes u will
what podcast?
@@lpt369 It's called Nobody Should Believe Me.
@@TMTM584 thanks!