Positionally speaking in your stance you could be lower. Something you see more common in college wrestling is people already starting with their chest resting on their thigh so they are always ready to shot, this kinda stance also makes a snap down just alittle more difficult because now your chest is connected to your thigh (which is connected to the floor) instead of having an open space to snap you towards. Always be looking up in your shot, as a general rule. Hips in is important and were a person trying to sprawl is trying to create space, to counter this knee pounding in is important. For beginers I like to teach them wrap their arms all the way around the hips, below the butt. The hips only go so far away and you can suck them back in, even grapevine with the arms it just slows them down not prevent the legs from getting away from you, the hips don't move so far away. You'll see Cael Sanderson do this, but he locks more around the waist rather than below the butt (this helps if you want to go quicker into upper body wrestling). Once they get used to controlling the hips and develop good shot and double leg mechanics I have them wrap their arm around one hip (the side where their head is one) and the other arm blocks the knee of the far leg. The reason I teach that later is because I want to understand how to control the hips first
Great, I love the channel. I think with JJ spread around the globe, all cultures can add you style on it. I´m training here in Brazil and love to get different point of views. Maybe seams ridiculous for some college guy em North America, but I never saw that before.
If you had to change your level and then shoot if you explode off of the back foot instead of stepping with the front foot it will quickly and powerfully get your shoulder in the hip socket to drop your knee and follow through.
Different techniques work better for different body types. Nick Rodriguez (another tall guy like Invisible Jiu Jitsu) focuses on what his body type prefers Snap Downs instead of doggedly trying to do a technique where his body creates a disadvantage. Work on your strengths. Snap Down and Sprawl
@@InvisibleJiuJitsu Nick Rodriguez is 6'3" or 190.5cm Keenan Cornelius trained with him and said he just practices snap down and back take over and over at a blistering repetition pace. My kid is also in the 90th percentile for height, towering over other 5 year olds. His shots are rubbish even though he practices wrestling 4 times a week. His snap down and sprawls are good as are his upper body hip throws. So in tournaments I tell him to stick with what works best.
A really good channel I watch that actually showed the grapevine stuff a loong time ago is Bjj Wrestling plan. It looks funny at first but the material is of pretty good quality.
Hello. What an incredible video. Covers all my mistakes! May I translate to Turkish some parts and share on my Facebook with my students?do you give permission? Thanks again
@@InvisibleJiuJitsu Yeah, there's never a good time to take a knee :) I was learning off of Gholar's stuff, from back in the day too. It seems like his way is better for the knee defence (more time to see it coming, and a better position to deal with it) but worse for the actual takedown. I guess it depends on how good the opponents striking is, whether he can time you with a knee from the open. Donald Cerrone, it might be dicey, but the average guy you'll probably be alright I guess
@@simeonelliott8260 yeh! That's why the best shots are set up with movement or strikes, to minimise the opponents abilities to throw strikes or counters as you shoot
Your penetration step should be deeper. Any decent wrestler would stuff you regardless of how good your base is if you shoot like youre shooting. Also I understand you're breaking the shot down into multiple parts for simplicity but you need to make the level change and step in to break their plain one motion.
@@InvisibleJiuJitsu ha yea that makes sense it was mostly the distancing I was worried about but when both people are moving I can see it changing and not every setup is good anyway. Thanks for replying
Positionally speaking in your stance you could be lower. Something you see more common in college wrestling is people already starting with their chest resting on their thigh so they are always ready to shot, this kinda stance also makes a snap down just alittle more difficult because now your chest is connected to your thigh (which is connected to the floor) instead of having an open space to snap you towards. Always be looking up in your shot, as a general rule. Hips in is important and were a person trying to sprawl is trying to create space, to counter this knee pounding in is important. For beginers I like to teach them wrap their arms all the way around the hips, below the butt. The hips only go so far away and you can suck them back in, even grapevine with the arms it just slows them down not prevent the legs from getting away from you, the hips don't move so far away. You'll see Cael Sanderson do this, but he locks more around the waist rather than below the butt (this helps if you want to go quicker into upper body wrestling). Once they get used to controlling the hips and develop good shot and double leg mechanics I have them wrap their arm around one hip (the side where their head is one) and the other arm blocks the knee of the far leg. The reason I teach that later is because I want to understand how to control the hips first
Very helpful
This makes so much sense, I think, from a submission grappling or No GI perspective. Thank you!
Definitely going to be exploring this - I have the same problem you did pre-wresting shot. Osss!
Great, I love the channel.
I think with JJ spread around the globe, all cultures can add you style on it. I´m training here in Brazil and love to get different point of views. Maybe seams ridiculous for some college guy em North America, but I never saw that before.
If you had to change your level and then shoot if you explode off of the back foot instead of stepping with the front foot it will quickly and powerfully get your shoulder in the hip socket to drop your knee and follow through.
This is why his shot started to feel better, not bc of the split level change.
Best double leg is Jordan Burroughs blast double
I can't make it work. It hurts my neck.
Not all of us were built like Jordan though :-(
I love this channel.
thanks so much Joshua!
Different techniques work better for different body types. Nick Rodriguez (another tall guy like Invisible Jiu Jitsu) focuses on what his body type prefers Snap Downs instead of doggedly trying to do a technique where his body creates a disadvantage. Work on your strengths. Snap Down and Sprawl
100%. I wonder how tall nick is? I've never met him so hard to tell
@@InvisibleJiuJitsu Nick Rodriguez is 6'3" or 190.5cm Keenan Cornelius trained with him and said he just practices snap down and back take over and over at a blistering repetition pace. My kid is also in the 90th percentile for height, towering over other 5 year olds. His shots are rubbish even though he practices wrestling 4 times a week. His snap down and sprawls are good as are his upper body hip throws. So in tournaments I tell him to stick with what works best.
A really good channel I watch that actually showed the grapevine stuff a loong time ago is Bjj Wrestling plan. It looks funny at first but the material is of pretty good quality.
this is brilliant! i feel the split level change is a game changer!
Has definitely been for me!
Awesome exposé :-)
Great. Very good explanation of rights and wrongs
Good breakdown! 🤙
Hello. What an incredible video. Covers all my mistakes! May I translate to Turkish some parts and share on my Facebook with my students?do you give permission? Thanks again
Hi, you mentioned mma, how well does this new way work doing that? Does it make it harder to defend knees?
Well, if the guy throws a knee we'll you'll be hit whichever style of shot you do. This way you'll at least be balanced when you get hit I guess
@@InvisibleJiuJitsu Yeah, there's never a good time to take a knee :)
I was learning off of Gholar's stuff, from back in the day too. It seems like his way is better for the knee defence (more time to see it coming, and a better position to deal with it) but worse for the actual takedown.
I guess it depends on how good the opponents striking is, whether he can time you with a knee from the open. Donald Cerrone, it might be dicey, but the average guy you'll probably be alright I guess
@@simeonelliott8260 yeh! That's why the best shots are set up with movement or strikes, to minimise the opponents abilities to throw strikes or counters as you shoot
@@InvisibleJiuJitsu thanks for taking the time, I really enjoy your videos
@@simeonelliott8260 no problem, I always try and respond, especially if the question is worth discussing!
Your penetration step should be deeper. Any decent wrestler would stuff you regardless of how good your base is if you shoot like youre shooting. Also I understand you're breaking the shot down into multiple parts for simplicity but you need to make the level change and step in to break their plain one motion.
Yeh dude, none of those are actually set up like they would be in sparring :) thanks for watching :)
@@InvisibleJiuJitsu ha yea that makes sense it was mostly the distancing I was worried about but when both people are moving I can see it changing and not every setup is good anyway. Thanks for replying
@@austontighe9503 cheers Auston, thanks again :)
you shouldn't be doing "good mornings". they are terrible for your back! that is how bruce lee severely injured his back