I love you Kevin Lee but Nakano would wipe the floor with the judoka you filmed with! If you get the opportunity to gi up with a judoka like him you will feel the difference.
Now that's a real Sensei, respectfull, skillful, and no ego. He even went easy on Josh. And Josh is also a real nice guy and a good respectfull student. Great video
@@davidmartinez9804 for a street fight? Sure being able to grapple standing up in general is safer than going to the ground. But bjj beats judo in literally every other aspect
What a wonderful video! You, my man, are a humble servant of your art (BJJ) and a very promising Judoka. Your throws are no joke; I am a brown belt Judoka and you are better than I am! I began at age 50 and am not particularly athletic so yeah-- you would likely throw me in Randori with ease. You have a LOT of throws and they all look good and OBVIOUSLY your ground game is on point (a Purple Belt in BJJ is equal to a 1st degree blackbelt in Judo when you take everything into account. Josh- PLEASE STICK WITH JUDO. I'm not saying "replace" BJJ w/Judo-- simply saying do both; with your athleticism, mat awareness, age and crazy high level (COMPARED TO MOST PEOPLE) ground game you would progress to Black Belt in 2 years. Do it consistently and see if I'm wrong. I won't be. Going w/Sensei Nakano is like going against Eddie Van Halen in a guitar-playing contest: you ain't winning lol. None of us would stand a chance against him. He's higher than high level; he's tippy top. Anyway- dude- if THAT GUY'S in your backyard so to speak you'd be passing up the opportunity of a lifetime not to train with him. For the sake of yourself AND your channel, do both. Thanks for a fantastic watch brother.
As a judoka, I would never tell you that your purple belt is useless. You have so much time on the ground that I'd be happy to spar with you to learn more ground. Newaza is so neglected in most judo programs. Only a few people in world tour tournaments are confident enough in their newaza that they actually try to score with it. And the ones who are proficient in newaza often score with it in their matches. And geez you trained with Soichi Hashimoto as well. You're not afraid of getting your ass kicked to learn. Respect to Nakano though, from experience I would say those high hip strength pulls hurt when you land. The knee bend to get your hip lower is so key for the experience of uke (and also to make the throw easy for yourself so you don't have to rely on overpowering the opponent). Seeing this was actually extremely helpful and educational. I went through the throws frame by frame to see where exactly did Nakano see a gap in your balance or defense. Like what were your legs doing, how far apart were you, what were you doing with your hands or where were you moving when he attacked. Because many times he snapped like a viper the moment he landed the grip and it was free, but I didn't see it in the moment. Like that de ashi barai when he did it right when he got the grip, because you were moving backwards with your left leg hanging in the front and feet being almost in line. Those are the really important things I want and need to learn to really understand judo. It's also very noticeable how Nakano moves way way less than you, which I tend to see a lot in my club as well. We tend to move excessively for no reason and often times "loosely" like in normal life, an experienced judoka would punish it because movement creates opportunities especially when your steps aren't maintaining balance throughout. You can tell when practicing with a less experienced judoka than yourself that they're always moving more than you and they're always using more speed and force to do everything they do. You can almost stand still and only move when necessary often times. The end notes were fantastic. It's such a common thing for less experienced players not being able to relax and being a bit afraid so they tense up really hard. Or they're fully relaxed and just let you do whatever you want, seen that a couple of times too. There's no winning or losing in practice really, you need to know how to let the opponent play and get yourself into bad positions just as much as you need to try and attack them. Being less defensive allows to be offensive as well. It's taken a long time to really start to understand what being a good practice partner is. Even if you would dominate your partner, you should let them practice just as well even in randori, like getting the grips and trying to go for a throw. You shouldn't dominate them so that they get nothing out of it. And it's not at all obvious when you're focused on trying to practice to your best effort yourself. "The mutual benefit" is one of the fundamental philosophies in judo and I suppose learning that will never end. Because it's difficult to be humble and considerate enough to keep in mind that even when you're not dedicatedly uke for someone, you're still their practice partner and you need to take into account their practice effectiveness as well.
@Johnstuart4914 Both are great. It's hard to go wrong with either. Honestly, my recommendation would depend a lot on why you want to train. Obviously judo will make you better at throws and takedowns and BJJ will make you better on the ground. But judo still has a ground game and BJJ still trains throws and takedowns. That said, unless you have Olympic aspirations, I might give BJJ the slight edge. BJJ has a no gi variant that judo generally doesn't. And it's probably more applicable to MMA if you ever have any aspirations to do that. Also, while it can still be hard on your body, it's definitely easier on your body than judo. Getting thrown over and over again is rough! Lol. Of course it will train you to take falls which is actually incredibly beneficial. That probably wasn't very helpful. 😂
This was really good. Nakano sensei is so humble and easy going, he is awesome. Josh your mind is open and your natural ability is very good. The opportunity to interact so freely with someone at Nakano sensei's level is rare. One of the two principles of Judo is mutual benefit and welfare, you have experienced it first hand I hope it was instructional for you as there was a wealth of treasure in the easy going manner that your randori session contained. Many have to do very hard practice for years to experience that level of skill.
Kami shiho is also my favourite pin. I studied Katsuhiko Kashawasaki endlessly for little tips and tricks that would make it stronger. Whenever I trained BJJ, if I got the opportunity to transition to it, I would. Done well, it's a very difficult pin to escape from. Josh is doing really well, lovely to see him improving. Shintaro's coaching is exactly what judo is about. Fantastic Judoka and totally humble.
Glad to see judo getting the respect it deserves. Through MMA the world knows how great BJJ is now, but even in that ruleset the respect for the stand up is growing now. A lot of wrestling and judo emphasis these days to make well rounded complete grapplers
Actually its more like the opposite. BJJ has completely fallen off. It was WAY more effective in the early days of MMA because no one else knew what they were doing. Once people figured it out, it became a purely supplementary style to striking/wrestling.
@@JohnSmith-rr3jt I agree for the most part. Fighting has return to it's heavy emphasis on position, particularly top control in recent years. However, I'd still go as far to say that BJJ is a bit more important than just "suplemental". If you watch fights like the recent one with Khamzat and Whittaker, if you fight someone who is a much better wrestler than you, nullifying it with accepting the ground and making them deal with a superior guard is a legitimate get out of jail free card. That's why Gilbert Burns was and probably will always be Khamzat's toughest match up. Being good in all areas gives you more options to win
I'm a BJJ blackball and a third degree in Judo. First. I loved how respectful both of these gentlemen were towards each other. The sports are equal in my opinion. Obviously one is better standing the other on the ground. All that being said, a member of a Japanese National Judo team is a world class elite athlete. Kind of like asking a high school kid to play an NBA player in basketball. So far from a fair match. Fun video. Thanks.
Hahah, big shoutout to Sensei Chuck Jefferson -- I was actually just at class tonight and (after he destroyed me in randori) I mentioned to him I finally got to stop by SJSU and saw his pictures. Maybe I'll challenge Chuck for the next video in this series... if he accepts... *dun dun dun* 👀
judo black belt who practice for 20 years here. I really enjoyed this video and I m gonna make a way too long comment: I can feel that you did your best following the advices and for a white belt that was actually really good. I m gonna comment the nage komi since it was a very good exercice, especially at your level. The master didn't attack nor block so that you feel free to experiment and accepted the throws when you attempted them. It's actually a great way to improve. 7:37 the osoto gari was really smooth, congrats. 7:41 you are doing morote but you go backwards and get off balanced, you endanger yourself way more that your opponent. 8:18 the o goshi/harai goshi is actually really good. I also really liked how you handled the sleeve grip to prepare it, from a black belt point of you, that's what would make you win the fight. 8:32 the ippon seoi nage was nice, you didn't bend much the knees and you didn't fix correctly the shoulder but the upward pull was nice and the global form was still good overall, it might lack a bit of speed and power but focusing on your speed now would be the best way to make awful technics instead of correct ones, the speed will come with time, also doing slow and good is challenging even for black belts, but fast and bad, no worries, anyone could do that. 8:48 nice tai otoshi, for beginners I think a good advice would be to tell you to do it when uke is going forward because it s more the spirit of it, but competitors also do it this way. 8:52 you did the tomoe nage while turning, it s not really efficient (yoko tomoe nage works but it s really different), tomoe nage works wonders against people who push straight ahead (see 11:06 ), it happens a lot with judo white belts but not much with bjj guys though, since they rather aim for the ground and tend to pull more than push. Overall you did great, especially on kuzushi, the big highlight beeing the o goshi/harai goshi with the sleeve work that was really clean, I also like that you focus on doing right instead of fast or putting strength in it. For the randori, he's way too experienced for you, you are screwed the second he grabs the sleeve, that's why kumi kata is so important for us, but it's not the first thing you should focus on. (ok at 13:02 you do a combo that I do very often, but you should push when you enter, with a strong and dangerous enough sweep attempt to make him push back foward to make it work, here, he goes sideways, but well, he knows this stuff, that was still a fair attempt). It makes no sense for me to comment the pin challenge, you are way better than me on the ground, and even though judokas are usually not beasts on the ground, your opponent is still a worldclass one. Thanks for the share and giving judo a shot. I also really liked your spirit!
you are a great champion josh . you challenged yourself with no fear and willing to put yourself in a difficult situation to be able to learn new skills , thats a champion to me ,
Amazing to see such a friendly a positive video. It’s not about which is the best or proving one thing to the other, but learning the other art, whether just for knowledge or to improve yourself. All done in a respectful manner as should always be. Thank you both. Nakano sensei wa subarashii desu. And Josh, it was great.
Nakano seems like a wonderful instructor and I enjoy his videos. I know I've mentioned levels before in comments on your videos but it really is difficult to explain to someone how high a level of competitor someone is to have been on Japan's national team for many years. Please keep training and sharing with us I look forward to your updates.
Good to see ya back in the comments, thanks for watching! Yeah he is absurdly good 😂 Gonna definitely make some more judo stuff soon! Glad you’re enjoying it 🙏
Sensie was very generous to let himself be thrown over and over. To this point in his life his body has been put through hell and back, so to freely give the little that is left is impressive.
Great video. Your technique is looking good. Interesting comment you made about at the 10:42 mark. That you would think it weird to be doing Randori with the owner of his own dojo inside his own dojo. I noticed one of the major differences about Judo and BJJ... In Judo you are encouraged to work out with the head sensei or any sensei for that matter...It is sometimes considered rude not to ask to work out. In BJJ they dont allow lower belts to ask high belts...from what I have experienced. I always found that funny. In Judo it is my goal to have my students to one day beat me or tap me. Nothing makes me happier than to have a lower belt do well against me. This is the JUDO way.
Thanks for watching! Appreciate that. Hahah yeah it’s pretty different, in a lot of jiu jitsu gyms there’s a thing about not even asking higher belts to roll, which I always thought was weird. Back a few months ago I was told I should be asking the higher judo belts to train as much as possible, which I think is awesome.
THIS! This is why I love Judo.... it is a dance. The hips never stop... there is always motion... subtle sleek deceptive motion that explodes to effect.
This is wholesome! Thanks for this content. Funny too! Getting thrown by a black belt is the best, it doesn't hurt, almost like a massage even, because they don't hesitate to let gravity do the work.
for a video about a really complex sport it is actually well explained in the big lines, well done on that, you made our beautiful sport quite understandable
Great video and I enjoyed watching it. In that north south pinning position, I realized the difference between yours and Nakano-sensei technique. It's hard to explain but sensei used like a double underhook position trapping both your arms and while pulling your belt, he drives his upper body and shoulder down keeping you pinned on the mat. Also maintaining heavy hips and his legs spread to prevent you potentially turning him over or whatever situations that may occur. Hopefully this explanation makes sense haha.
I was surprised Josh started on his knees and his posterior aimed at the sky. Sensei on the other hand was sprawled and locked with his hip on Josh's shoulder.
Yeah. Shintaro really locked his arms under him while Josh kinda took it lightly and made space. Josh also probably played it lightly out of respect too. But regardless, there is no escaping elite judoka pin.
@@doublechinmask3744as someone who’s done both because pinning can win the match outright judo guys will explode out so they’re harder to hold down. Also they put more top pressure into the pin. BJJ guys (a lot of them not all) tend to try to float in the position and hunt the sub but this leaves way less pressure. BJJ has got to get back to dominant top control because when you go against someone like a wrestler they’ll often explode out if you’re applying good pressure
Awesome video. Great sportsmanship and love seeing a bjj guy highlight the strength of judo. I started training judo after getting my black belt in bjj and wish I would’ve started much earlier!
Lovely video. Your love for the martial arts is palpable. A note on your kami shiho gatame if you don't mind. Try to get your elbows between his arms and the mat. Restricting your opponent's movement while maintaining mobility yourself is the main goal. Your legs work to maintain your position on top, while your upper body pinches his shoulders firmly on the mat, your arms restricting his for added control.
Experience plays a huge part. Although there are experienced fighters/experts, they have big egos and forget their training. I practiced judoka when I was a bit younger and broke my collarbone during a competition in Nippon in 1988. I hadn't recovered for 5 years because of the severity of the break. I am older now, so my training comes with the old man's martial arts-Kali. Lol, thanks for the video.
Josh IMHO is a perfect example of how to be a good student on other arts. He is an experienced BJJ guy but it did not stop him from being a beginner again and learn. Thank Josh for sharing and for the lesson.
Amazing video as always. Like I said last time, it's beautiful doing cross-training and can work wonders for your skill. You can try Shintaro Higashi, one of my favorite Judokas based in US. P.S. Doing randori with Hashimoto is mind-blowing, but also a privilege!! If you have the blessing and luck to come by him on your path, try Ono Shohei.
a couple points of critique: 1. Right off the bat the first thing I noticed was you didn’t get your arms underneath his arms, which enabled sensei Nakano to get his arms underneath you and into your hips. In my judo club, we’re always taught to get chest to chest, get our arms underneath our opponent’s arms, grab our opponent’s lapel, and then sink our hip down to create as much pressure on our opponent’s head. I don’t know how you’re taught the north-south position in BJJ, and I think the north-south position in BJJ is used more as a position to transfer into submissions rather than a position for pinning, so perhaps that’s why you did it like that, but if you had done it the way it’s taught in judo, I think you would have been able to pin him for those 20 seconds. I also think that fundamentally the north-south position in BJJ is slightly different than the kami shiho gatame position in judo. 2. you were too far forward. going back to the emphasis on getting chest-to-chest, i noticed your head was almost past his belt. in order for north-south to be a good pinning position, you need to put more weight on your opponent's head and chest. also, being that far forward in conjunction with you not controlling his arms meant that you made it much easier for him to get hand his hands onto your hips. 3. technically the challenge was just to pin him for 20 seconds, but you don't specifically need to use kami shiho gatame as the pinning position. if you were more familiar with side control (yoko shiho gatame) or the scarf hold (kesa gatame) then you should have used those positions. i personally prefer kesa gatame myself because there are so many great submission opportunities and transitions in addition to the pinning position. lastly, i wouldn't say your bjj purple belt is useless, but just like anytime you transition from one martial art to another, you have to make adjustments in your technique. i recommend you stick with judo and continue to study judo newaza more in depth. from my experience, i believe judo newaza offers a very different perspective on groundwork than what you're used to in bjj. the goal of judo newaza isn't necessarily to innovate on ground techniques and become the best ground fighter like in bjj, the goal of judo newaza is to finish a fight on the ground as quickly as possible; and as such, judo newaza emphasizes speed, top pressure, and aggression more so than finesse. also, in the future, you should go back to sensei nakano and ask him for two rounds of newaza where one person starts on top and one person starts belly down or in turtle and then you switch positions. win by pin or submission. person on top has 10 seconds to get into position for a pin or a submission. if the person on top gets into the position for a pin within 10 seconds, they have to hold down their opponent for an additional 20 seconds for a pin. this is a drill we often do in my judo club. it'll help you get an idea of how different judo newaza is to bjj groundwork.
That took me right back to my teenage years, I was my boarding school' s Judo captain. It taught me so much, and I believe helped prepare me for life 😊
Thanks Jordan! Hahaha good question. This session got me thinking about how I’d design practice for this actually 😂 The steps in the throws are a lot of information, so during all my judo practice I’ve been trying to focus on what’s making all of these things work during sparring.
My wrist was hurting watching this. I recall always having to tell myself to not let my wrist bend backwards so not bad but just a little advice as I didn't see it mentioned in the few comments I read.
Osotogari was my favorite when my son and I dabbled in judo. I come in around 280# and was a lineman "back in the day". My technique was spotty but I could sure drive that one home. Also when you did your ground work i did pretty well at sensi's pin...as a chunky guy
Ooh yeah you really don't wanna stand up on that submission haha, had the same thing happen to me once. Would love to visit their dujo if I ever came to the US, looks like a great environment
These judoka are like everyone I trained with in judo. Judo generally attracts people people. I've studied a few but judo is the only one in which what is done in play in the dojo is exactly what you'd use on the street. The only difference is intent.
Judo is awesome! 1 month old BJJ white belt here. I'd like to learn some judo as I value those throws for self defense. I feel like BJJ has good ground work, but I like starting standing up.
There's an old judo style that is still practised in Japan universities which focuses on ground work and developed by and for smaller people( sounds familiar?) ...I guess it's what maeda taught the Gracies. If you look up kosen Judo on TH-cam it's pretty much the foundation for Bjj.
What I see here is the Judo guy is playing a game and having fun. I think us western martial arts practitioners get caught up in trying to be so practical in our approach that we can't play. Maybe if we were fighting for our lives we would come out on top because we had to, but I think play is more important than we realize most of the time. Not sure why, but it seems to be working for Judo guy
I'm a boxing guy, but I feel like I really need to learn how to grapple too, I have to admit I'm falling in love with judo, every single video I watch is always a judoka beating a bjj guy.
Thank you for this opportunity! It was a pleasure collaborating with you. We will continue to grow and prosper together as martial artists.
Thanks so much Sensei Nakano! I had a lot of fun. Now we gotta figure out our next video... 🙏 Ossssss
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That look like so much fun. Martial arts are supposed to be fun, when the #Bushido is good.
Nakano Sensei, you are so humble and yet very good. More power to you!
Big respect for you Shintaro you are an amazing judoka
Osu! Thank you for sharing
Its good to see a BJJ guy who does not sound like a cult member
Most of the cult members have a Brazilian accent.
@@matejfele9971 Don't forget the Gra*** ***ra gear.
as a gracie barra bluebelt, this is too funny😀GB is my favorite team of all sports but i think theytake it too far sometimes. keep training!
I admit I am sort of the bjj cult but I am
Also aware of the stand up limitations if judo is not practiced
Why are Judo guys so butthurt over BJJ?
This guy really has the learner's mindset, very admirable!
appreciate you, thanks for watching!
Shoshin.
I recently challenged a Judo champion on my video too. I got tossed around like there is no tomorrow LOL
But where does Kevin Lee fit into all of this???😂
I love you Kevin Lee but Nakano would wipe the floor with the judoka you filmed with! If you get the opportunity to gi up with a judoka like him you will feel the difference.
yeah you did but it looked worth it lol
So what about the fight? How did that go?
Now that's a real Sensei, respectfull, skillful, and no ego. He even went easy on Josh. And Josh is also a real nice guy and a good respectfull student. Great video
I appreciate that you are giving more exposure to judo because it’s so underrated
Underrated? It is literally an olympic sport
@@AlucardVanHellsing454 that’s true but i truly meant for North America specifically
@@CG54545 fair ig
exactly. Judo>bjj since it's alot more well rounded and better for street fighting.
@@davidmartinez9804 for a street fight? Sure being able to grapple standing up in general is safer than going to the ground. But bjj beats judo in literally every other aspect
Judo guys really love the name Shintaro😅
Yeah i was like, Shintaro really lost some mass...
Love seeing people cross training! I really appreciated how respectful everyone was across the board!
What a wonderful video! You, my man, are a humble servant of your art (BJJ) and a very promising Judoka. Your throws are no joke; I am a brown belt Judoka and you are better than I am! I began at age 50 and am not particularly athletic so yeah-- you would likely throw me in Randori with ease. You have a LOT of throws and they all look good and OBVIOUSLY your ground game is on point (a Purple Belt in BJJ is equal to a 1st degree blackbelt in Judo when you take everything into account.
Josh- PLEASE STICK WITH JUDO. I'm not saying "replace" BJJ w/Judo-- simply saying do both; with your athleticism, mat awareness, age and crazy high level (COMPARED TO MOST PEOPLE) ground game you would progress to Black Belt in 2 years. Do it consistently and see if I'm wrong. I won't be.
Going w/Sensei Nakano is like going against Eddie Van Halen in a guitar-playing contest: you ain't winning lol. None of us would stand a chance against him. He's higher than high level; he's tippy top.
Anyway- dude- if THAT GUY'S in your backyard so to speak you'd be passing up the opportunity of a lifetime not to train with him. For the sake of yourself AND your channel, do both.
Thanks for a fantastic watch brother.
As a judoka, I would never tell you that your purple belt is useless. You have so much time on the ground that I'd be happy to spar with you to learn more ground. Newaza is so neglected in most judo programs. Only a few people in world tour tournaments are confident enough in their newaza that they actually try to score with it. And the ones who are proficient in newaza often score with it in their matches.
And geez you trained with Soichi Hashimoto as well. You're not afraid of getting your ass kicked to learn. Respect to Nakano though, from experience I would say those high hip strength pulls hurt when you land. The knee bend to get your hip lower is so key for the experience of uke (and also to make the throw easy for yourself so you don't have to rely on overpowering the opponent).
Seeing this was actually extremely helpful and educational. I went through the throws frame by frame to see where exactly did Nakano see a gap in your balance or defense. Like what were your legs doing, how far apart were you, what were you doing with your hands or where were you moving when he attacked. Because many times he snapped like a viper the moment he landed the grip and it was free, but I didn't see it in the moment. Like that de ashi barai when he did it right when he got the grip, because you were moving backwards with your left leg hanging in the front and feet being almost in line. Those are the really important things I want and need to learn to really understand judo. It's also very noticeable how Nakano moves way way less than you, which I tend to see a lot in my club as well. We tend to move excessively for no reason and often times "loosely" like in normal life, an experienced judoka would punish it because movement creates opportunities especially when your steps aren't maintaining balance throughout. You can tell when practicing with a less experienced judoka than yourself that they're always moving more than you and they're always using more speed and force to do everything they do. You can almost stand still and only move when necessary often times.
The end notes were fantastic. It's such a common thing for less experienced players not being able to relax and being a bit afraid so they tense up really hard. Or they're fully relaxed and just let you do whatever you want, seen that a couple of times too. There's no winning or losing in practice really, you need to know how to let the opponent play and get yourself into bad positions just as much as you need to try and attack them. Being less defensive allows to be offensive as well. It's taken a long time to really start to understand what being a good practice partner is. Even if you would dominate your partner, you should let them practice just as well even in randori, like getting the grips and trying to go for a throw. You shouldn't dominate them so that they get nothing out of it. And it's not at all obvious when you're focused on trying to practice to your best effort yourself. "The mutual benefit" is one of the fundamental philosophies in judo and I suppose learning that will never end. Because it's difficult to be humble and considerate enough to keep in mind that even when you're not dedicatedly uke for someone, you're still their practice partner and you need to take into account their practice effectiveness as well.
The old Judo Newaza rules and technicques are amazing🔥👍
Judo is legit. Judo guys are tough. 😮😮😮
We should all practice judo😅😅😅😅😊
I'm a bjj practitioner, but I've loved judo since I was a teenager, I still use some judo techniques when we roll in Jiu-Jitsu, extremely efficient.
@@ivenslaercio6474 Judo and all wrestling combined with jiu jitsu are a match made in heaven.
Throw in some basic striking and you're good to go
Judo brown belt/BJJ blue belt checking in. Love to see this stuff!
Do you have a preference? I have done tasters in each but struggling to decide
@Johnstuart4914 Both are great. It's hard to go wrong with either. Honestly, my recommendation would depend a lot on why you want to train. Obviously judo will make you better at throws and takedowns and BJJ will make you better on the ground. But judo still has a ground game and BJJ still trains throws and takedowns. That said, unless you have Olympic aspirations, I might give BJJ the slight edge. BJJ has a no gi variant that judo generally doesn't. And it's probably more applicable to MMA if you ever have any aspirations to do that. Also, while it can still be hard on your body, it's definitely easier on your body than judo. Getting thrown over and over again is rough! Lol. Of course it will train you to take falls which is actually incredibly beneficial.
That probably wasn't very helpful. 😂
This was really good. Nakano sensei is so humble and easy going, he is awesome. Josh your mind is open and your natural ability is very good. The opportunity to interact so freely with someone at Nakano sensei's level is rare. One of the two principles of Judo is mutual benefit and welfare, you have experienced it first hand I hope it was instructional for you as there was a wealth of treasure in the easy going manner that your randori session contained. Many have to do very hard practice for years to experience that level of skill.
YES!!!!
Man... its impressive how Nakano aplies the techniques smoothly without applying power
This was such a fun video! Awesome to see more cross-styles practice content! ❤
Kami shiho is also my favourite pin.
I studied Katsuhiko Kashawasaki endlessly for little tips and tricks that would make it stronger.
Whenever I trained BJJ, if I got the opportunity to transition to it, I would.
Done well, it's a very difficult pin to escape from.
Josh is doing really well, lovely to see him improving.
Shintaro's coaching is exactly what judo is about.
Fantastic Judoka and totally humble.
you should challenge Travis Stevens. He'll give no mercy
Hahaha video title: "travis stevens actually killed me"
this vidéo would be awsome, Travis Stevens is great judoka
Hahaha....wrong choice. He will show no mercy 😀
My favorite. With our sensei Max Kafka.
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@@joshbeambjj R.I.P.
Glad to see judo getting the respect it deserves. Through MMA the world knows how great BJJ is now, but even in that ruleset the respect for the stand up is growing now. A lot of wrestling and judo emphasis these days to make well rounded complete grapplers
Actually its more like the opposite. BJJ has completely fallen off. It was WAY more effective in the early days of MMA because no one else knew what they were doing. Once people figured it out, it became a purely supplementary style to striking/wrestling.
@@JohnSmith-rr3jt I agree for the most part. Fighting has return to it's heavy emphasis on position, particularly top control in recent years. However, I'd still go as far to say that BJJ is a bit more important than just "suplemental". If you watch fights like the recent one with Khamzat and Whittaker, if you fight someone who is a much better wrestler than you, nullifying it with accepting the ground and making them deal with a superior guard is a legitimate get out of jail free card. That's why Gilbert Burns was and probably will always be Khamzat's toughest match up. Being good in all areas gives you more options to win
I'm a BJJ blackball and a third degree in Judo. First. I loved how respectful both of these gentlemen were towards each other. The sports are equal in my opinion. Obviously one is better standing the other on the ground. All that being said, a member of a Japanese National Judo team is a world class elite athlete. Kind of like asking a high school kid to play an NBA player in basketball. So far from a fair match. Fun video. Thanks.
Love the causal scroll past Chucks picture on the wall at the end, great video!
Hahah, big shoutout to Sensei Chuck Jefferson -- I was actually just at class tonight and (after he destroyed me in randori) I mentioned to him I finally got to stop by SJSU and saw his pictures. Maybe I'll challenge Chuck for the next video in this series... if he accepts... *dun dun dun* 👀
judo black belt who practice for 20 years here. I really enjoyed this video and I m gonna make a way too long comment:
I can feel that you did your best following the advices and for a white belt that was actually really good. I m gonna comment the nage komi since it was a very good exercice, especially at your level. The master didn't attack nor block so that you feel free to experiment and accepted the throws when you attempted them. It's actually a great way to improve. 7:37 the osoto gari was really smooth, congrats. 7:41 you are doing morote but you go backwards and get off balanced, you endanger yourself way more that your opponent. 8:18 the o goshi/harai goshi is actually really good. I also really liked how you handled the sleeve grip to prepare it, from a black belt point of you, that's what would make you win the fight. 8:32 the ippon seoi nage was nice, you didn't bend much the knees and you didn't fix correctly the shoulder but the upward pull was nice and the global form was still good overall, it might lack a bit of speed and power but focusing on your speed now would be the best way to make awful technics instead of correct ones, the speed will come with time, also doing slow and good is challenging even for black belts, but fast and bad, no worries, anyone could do that. 8:48 nice tai otoshi, for beginners I think a good advice would be to tell you to do it when uke is going forward because it s more the spirit of it, but competitors also do it this way. 8:52 you did the tomoe nage while turning, it s not really efficient (yoko tomoe nage works but it s really different), tomoe nage works wonders against people who push straight ahead (see 11:06 ), it happens a lot with judo white belts but not much with bjj guys though, since they rather aim for the ground and tend to pull more than push. Overall you did great, especially on kuzushi, the big highlight beeing the o goshi/harai goshi with the sleeve work that was really clean, I also like that you focus on doing right instead of fast or putting strength in it. For the randori, he's way too experienced for you, you are screwed the second he grabs the sleeve, that's why kumi kata is so important for us, but it's not the first thing you should focus on. (ok at 13:02 you do a combo that I do very often, but you should push when you enter, with a strong and dangerous enough sweep attempt to make him push back foward to make it work, here, he goes sideways, but well, he knows this stuff, that was still a fair attempt).
It makes no sense for me to comment the pin challenge, you are way better than me on the ground, and even though judokas are usually not beasts on the ground, your opponent is still a worldclass one.
Thanks for the share and giving judo a shot. I also really liked your spirit!
you are a great champion josh . you challenged yourself with no fear and willing to put yourself in a difficult situation to be able to learn new skills , thats a champion to me ,
This was such a fun video to watch. I'm a Judoka and totally rate BJJ for Naze Waza. A lot of the GB squad go to BJJ to practice their Naze Waza.
I need to tell... this video put a smile on my face! Thanks!
The respect between all was true sportsmanship and shows honor. Something seriously lacking today.
Gotta new sub outta me. Love the humble approach. Light hearted but serious educating/learning taking place. 👍👍
Amazing to see such a friendly a positive video. It’s not about which is the best or proving one thing to the other, but learning the other art, whether just for knowledge or to improve yourself. All done in a respectful manner as should always be. Thank you both. Nakano sensei wa subarashii desu. And Josh, it was great.
Nakano seems like a wonderful instructor and I enjoy his videos. I know I've mentioned levels before in comments on your videos but it really is difficult to explain to someone how high a level of competitor someone is to have been on Japan's national team for many years. Please keep training and sharing with us I look forward to your updates.
Good to see ya back in the comments, thanks for watching! Yeah he is absurdly good 😂
Gonna definitely make some more judo stuff soon! Glad you’re enjoying it 🙏
Sensie was very generous to let himself be thrown over and over. To this point in his life his body has been put through hell and back, so to freely give the little that is left is impressive.
Great video. Your technique is looking good. Interesting comment you made about at the 10:42 mark. That you would think it weird to be doing Randori with the owner of his own dojo inside his own dojo. I noticed one of the major differences about Judo and BJJ... In Judo you are encouraged to work out with the head sensei or any sensei for that matter...It is sometimes considered rude not to ask to work out. In BJJ they dont allow lower belts to ask high belts...from what I have experienced. I always found that funny. In Judo it is my goal to have my students to one day beat me or tap me. Nothing makes me happier than to have a lower belt do well against me. This is the JUDO way.
Thanks for watching! Appreciate that. Hahah yeah it’s pretty different, in a lot of jiu jitsu gyms there’s a thing about not even asking higher belts to roll, which I always thought was weird. Back a few months ago I was told I should be asking the higher judo belts to train as much as possible, which I think is awesome.
More of these vids please! ❤ judo gives love respect confidence mental awareness
THIS! This is why I love Judo.... it is a dance. The hips never stop... there is always motion... subtle sleek deceptive motion that explodes to effect.
This is wholesome! Thanks for this content. Funny too! Getting thrown by a black belt is the best, it doesn't hurt, almost like a massage even, because they don't hesitate to let gravity do the work.
This was so humble and wonderful to see. I loved this. Amazing respect between you two.
Such a humble video. I didn’t think Nakano Sensei would achieve a flawless victory like that. Truly impressive.
Nakano sensei - very inspirational. He is the kind of judoka I would be looking for if starting judo. Thanks for sharing.
Love this collab. Great rounds, Shintaro has such chops
I love how you've journeyed into judo to round your BJJ game even more. Great video and great channel, man!
14:35 naturally respectful, Shintaro is a true martial artist
Awesome. Judo definitely is no Joke (and same goes for BJJ).
Entertaining video ! Thanks to Sensei Shintaro Nakano for hosting you at his dojo.
This video embodies the spirit of the martial arts. Great job everybody.
Great video, brother. Every video is great content and quality
Improves!
for a video about a really complex sport it is actually well explained in the big lines, well done on that, you made our beautiful sport quite understandable
What an amazing sensei. Excellent video.
Great job! Another wonderful adventure :)
Hey thanks brother as always! Glad you liked it 🤜🤛
Great video and I enjoyed watching it. In that north south pinning position, I realized the difference between yours and Nakano-sensei technique. It's hard to explain but sensei used like a double underhook position trapping both your arms and while pulling your belt, he drives his upper body and shoulder down keeping you pinned on the mat. Also maintaining heavy hips and his legs spread to prevent you potentially turning him over or whatever situations that may occur.
Hopefully this explanation makes sense haha.
I was surprised Josh started on his knees and his posterior aimed at the sky. Sensei on the other hand was sprawled and locked with his hip on Josh's shoulder.
Yeah. Shintaro really locked his arms under him while Josh kinda took it lightly and made space.
Josh also probably played it lightly out of respect too.
But regardless, there is no escaping elite judoka pin.
@@doublechinmask3744as someone who’s done both because pinning can win the match outright judo guys will explode out so they’re harder to hold down. Also they put more top pressure into the pin. BJJ guys (a lot of them not all) tend to try to float in the position and hunt the sub but this leaves way less pressure. BJJ has got to get back to dominant top control because when you go against someone like a wrestler they’ll often explode out if you’re applying good pressure
That was such a great video. Thank you! LOVED IT ! ! !
Awesome video. Great sportsmanship and love seeing a bjj guy highlight the strength of judo. I started training judo after getting my black belt in bjj and wish I would’ve started much earlier!
Lovely video. Your love for the martial arts is palpable. A note on your kami shiho gatame if you don't mind. Try to get your elbows between his arms and the mat. Restricting your opponent's movement while maintaining mobility yourself is the main goal. Your legs work to maintain your position on top, while your upper body pinches his shoulders firmly on the mat, your arms restricting his for added control.
The vibe here is wonderful and a credit to both disciplines and all the participants.
Brother, I loved this video! The energy, the humility and respect and vibe! Thank you a lot! New sub here!! 🙌😎
Super good Sensei skill and attitude! Also great beginners attitude and effort. Really good to see good learning and practice. Very good video. 😊
It's so refreshing to see a BJJ practitioner not making a video to trash Judo.
thanks for watching!
I love this video. Well done. I had fun watching this one.
Loved this video
siiick, glad you liked it!
loved it
Amazing video!! I'm a judo black belt and brown belt in bjj. I appreciate the compliments for both martial arts!!!.
That 8:20 O-goshi was awesome
Experience plays a huge part. Although there are experienced fighters/experts, they have big egos and forget their training.
I practiced judoka when I was a bit younger and broke my collarbone during a competition in Nippon in 1988. I hadn't recovered for 5 years because of the severity of the break.
I am older now, so my training comes with the old man's martial arts-Kali. Lol, thanks for the video.
Josh IMHO is a perfect example of how to be a good student on other arts. He is an experienced BJJ guy but it did not stop him from being a beginner again and learn. Thank Josh for sharing and for the lesson.
Soundtrack for the randori session was perfect.
during that randori there was a throw that looked pretty hard 😂 poor josh. Taking throws for the fans 🙌🏼
We need a follow up video of newaza randori of bjj purple vs judo black against nakano-sensei!!! Waiting for it🎉
It's nice that Sensei Shintaro Nakano let you bring your cheer squad to his dojo.
Amazing video as always. Like I said last time, it's beautiful doing cross-training and can work wonders for your skill. You can try Shintaro Higashi, one of my favorite Judokas based in US.
P.S. Doing randori with Hashimoto is mind-blowing, but also a privilege!! If you have the blessing and luck to come by him on your path, try Ono Shohei.
Love judo. Such an underrated martial arts in modern day.
the music choices are great. good jorb
a couple points of critique:
1. Right off the bat the first thing I noticed was you didn’t get your arms underneath his arms, which enabled sensei Nakano to get his arms underneath you and into your hips. In my judo club, we’re always taught to get chest to chest, get our arms underneath our opponent’s arms, grab our opponent’s lapel, and then sink our hip down to create as much pressure on our opponent’s head. I don’t know how you’re taught the north-south position in BJJ, and I think the north-south position in BJJ is used more as a position to transfer into submissions rather than a position for pinning, so perhaps that’s why you did it like that, but if you had done it the way it’s taught in judo, I think you would have been able to pin him for those 20 seconds. I also think that fundamentally the north-south position in BJJ is slightly different than the kami shiho gatame position in judo.
2. you were too far forward. going back to the emphasis on getting chest-to-chest, i noticed your head was almost past his belt. in order for north-south to be a good pinning position, you need to put more weight on your opponent's head and chest. also, being that far forward in conjunction with you not controlling his arms meant that you made it much easier for him to get hand his hands onto your hips.
3. technically the challenge was just to pin him for 20 seconds, but you don't specifically need to use kami shiho gatame as the pinning position. if you were more familiar with side control (yoko shiho gatame) or the scarf hold (kesa gatame) then you should have used those positions. i personally prefer kesa gatame myself because there are so many great submission opportunities and transitions in addition to the pinning position.
lastly, i wouldn't say your bjj purple belt is useless, but just like anytime you transition from one martial art to another, you have to make adjustments in your technique. i recommend you stick with judo and continue to study judo newaza more in depth. from my experience, i believe judo newaza offers a very different perspective on groundwork than what you're used to in bjj. the goal of judo newaza isn't necessarily to innovate on ground techniques and become the best ground fighter like in bjj, the goal of judo newaza is to finish a fight on the ground as quickly as possible; and as such, judo newaza emphasizes speed, top pressure, and aggression more so than finesse.
also, in the future, you should go back to sensei nakano and ask him for two rounds of newaza where one person starts on top and one person starts belly down or in turtle and then you switch positions. win by pin or submission. person on top has 10 seconds to get into position for a pin or a submission. if the person on top gets into the position for a pin within 10 seconds, they have to hold down their opponent for an additional 20 seconds for a pin. this is a drill we often do in my judo club. it'll help you get an idea of how different judo newaza is to bjj groundwork.
Best comment so far!!!
Congratulations
Yep. My BJJ teacher tells us the same thing about this position we call the "north-south"
Holy yap
That newaza part was impressive, Judo rules.
That took me right back to my teenage years, I was my boarding school' s Judo captain. It taught me so much, and I believe helped prepare me for life 😊
"I dont wanna disrespect BJJ" 14:33
That advice in the end really extends to all training.
Shintaro has some great TH-cam Judo instructionals
Awesome video Josh! I'm curious what you think about non-CLA classes/instruction like this, now that you've delved into CLA/Eco so much?
Thanks Jordan! Hahaha good question. This session got me thinking about how I’d design practice for this actually 😂 The steps in the throws are a lot of information, so during all my judo practice I’ve been trying to focus on what’s making all of these things work during sparring.
@@joshbeambjj Randori, not "sparring".
Sensei Nakano was going like at 20% of his real capacity. NIce video !
Indeed he was hahaha thanks for watching!
@@joshbeambjj I would have loved to visit that dojo. It looked great to train, with a great teacher.
He was taking uke for you. Incredible. An amazing teacher.
My wrist was hurting watching this. I recall always having to tell myself to not let my wrist bend backwards so not bad but just a little advice as I didn't see it mentioned in the few comments I read.
Great video. Sensei Nakano seems like a beast and a great human being.
Osotogari was my favorite when my son and I dabbled in judo. I come in around 280# and was a lineman "back in the day". My technique was spotty but I could sure drive that one home.
Also when you did your ground work i did pretty well at sensi's pin...as a chunky guy
You're facing an olympic level judoka on their terms. You're gonna get ragdolled
Same happen when BJJ Guy try Judo. He was a Bluebelt from Gracie Barra, got whooped by a Orangebelt Middle School Judo.
Sensei Nakano used 1% of his power
Excellent Video!
Thanks!
1:03 *Nakano practicing a variation of "Hide-In-Shadows"?* 😆
Ooh yeah you really don't wanna stand up on that submission haha, had the same thing happen to me once.
Would love to visit their dujo if I ever came to the US, looks like a great environment
This was like a reminiscing of Royce Gracie vs Hidehiko Yoshida ! 🤯🤯
These judoka are like everyone I trained with in judo. Judo generally attracts people people. I've studied a few but judo is the only one in which what is done in play in the dojo is exactly what you'd use on the street. The only difference is intent.
well this was always gonna end one way :) full marks for trying though and for the humble attitude
Judo is awesome! 1 month old BJJ white belt here. I'd like to learn some judo as I value those throws for self defense. I feel like BJJ has good ground work, but I like starting standing up.
As a Judoka, I think you did well! Good content, keep going.
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
@@joshbeambjj Punctuation is problematic.
As a Bjj purple belt who started judo 5 months ago, i too feel during tachi.waza randori that my bjj purple belt is useless
Judo is legit. Wish I could train but my health sucks. As it is, I can barely handle BJJ privates.
It’s still great that your training in general though 🔥, weather bjj, or judo, they both make you a better fighter, and a better person
There's an old judo style that is still practised in Japan universities which focuses on ground work and developed by and for smaller people( sounds familiar?) ...I guess it's what maeda taught the Gracies. If you look up kosen Judo on TH-cam it's pretty much the foundation for Bjj.
Nice sportsmanship, i did expect a better pin down from a purple belt, people just overhyping purple belts i guess.
The combination of Judo and BJJ is great. Ne-wasa can be the finisher after a take-down.
a perfect example to any student of any art...........magic
What I see here is the Judo guy is playing a game and having fun. I think us western martial arts practitioners get caught up in trying to be so practical in our approach that we can't play. Maybe if we were fighting for our lives we would come out on top because we had to, but I think play is more important than we realize most of the time. Not sure why, but it seems to be working for Judo guy
that waltz playing on randori was on spot
haha thanks for watching!
@@joshbeambjj Please use an uppercase letter a tthe start of a sentence, and a full stop at the end of a sentence?
Where did you learn English?
really enjoyed this video!
I'm a boxing guy, but I feel like I really need to learn how to grapple too, I have to admit I'm falling in love with judo, every single video I watch is always a judoka beating a bjj guy.