This review, among other, helped me pull the trigger on a 2019 1200. I love it. I've had it since December 2019, and it always puts a smile on my face-parked, or driving.
Thank you for another great video. Your video's are what convinced me to give Triumph's a try. I recently bought a 2011 Tiger 1050 ABS for longer distances to go with my KLR 650. I have to say, I'm absolutely loving the Triumph and I could see a Tiger 1200 in my future. Just wanted to say thank you for all the hard work you put into your video's. They got me through a cold Canadian winter haha.
I have lived with the smaller tiger 800 xca for almost 2 years, heated seats and grips a hoot the ABS, tilt angle sensing all really good as was comfort..I'm trading it in for something lighter and not top heavy this week; but very sad to see it go I can only imagine the newer bigger brother is an improvement.. love your vids, inspirational!
I would like to see a test on the best big bikes for long distance touring 2 up with panniers/camping gear etc tourer v adventure bike etc , I will join you if you want 😉
Lovely bike - picked my new Tiger 800 XRT last Friday - 40 mile trip home in monsoon-type weather. Bike plastered! Might be an age thing but the 800 is all the power I need! Don't even miss the quick shifter that my S1000XR had. Ur right - very very comfortable. Cheers, Jon.
I've got the original '12 model and I love it, bought it with a carbon Leo Vince can wth no baffle (and triumphs exhaust remap). Absolutely love it, it does everything I need and it sounds amazing all the time. Recently been doing a 180 mile trip each way the last few weekends and it's dead comfy at 80+ on the motorway, handles great in the corners, an excess of overtaking power. My only criticism would be the traction control, it's pretty shit tbh, I pulled a fairly large wheelie (on purpose) on a crest in the road the other day without it kicking in, and also nearly lost the back end on a wet road when I first got it without any intervention of the tc, but sometimes it kicks in and stops you, especially when pulling away off the line fast. So I just ride it as if it hasn't got it now, which doesn't bother me that much. When I eventually get another bike it will the newer version of mine... just as long as it has a decent exhaust on it as it sounds so good
I've just had to hand my loan Tiger 1200 back to triumph after an all too brief 4 weeks. Got to agree with your comments on the handling. It's so much better than the previous explorer, which I also loved. With everyone rushing in gizmos like TFT screens to keep up with the competition, I'm amazed no one else has done the electric screen thing yet after several years being on the triumph?! Its a small thing, but is a real plus in my book.
For those, who are sceptical, it's all true. I've been riding for 21 years now on soooo many bikes. I own the XRT model for a couple of weeks now and I can honestly say, this is the best bike I've ridden so far. It does the job in every single way. I don't ride off road but it's the only form of transport that I have, so it works for me.
Very well summarised... Especially Point No.4 & 1 also 😅 Its the shaft thats making me tilt towards the 1200 over the 800.. although the 800 is sufficient for my needs 😊. Too lazy to keep cleaning and maintaining the chain. Cheers❤
Have watched a number of your videos it was a toss up between the bmw gsa & the tiger 1200 xca and for the purpose l need I went the xca pick it up today thanks for the reviews keep them coming
Great videos, mate. I'm looking forward to the rest of the Tiger postings you have in the pipeline. I've ridden the 2016 GS and recently the 2018 Tiger 1200. Do you have any plans to do a more in depth comparison between the GS and Tiger, strong and weak points of each one, as compared to each other? That's something I'd really appreciate, being the market for one of these. Thanks!
My Trophy is up for rotation today - always watch your Triumph reviews. One stop is to have a dry chemical fire extinguisher refilled - neighbor's prized rare pickup truck caught fire saturday - he dropped comp-collision coverage recently due to employment issues and he rarely drove the truck. ************************************************ Interesting twists and turns in the Powersports business nearby. Neighborhood power sports emporium moved its watercraft business closer to water (makes sense) and turned that Annex space into a used American - Euro sales floor (occasional new bikes from unknown sources) with the shop remaining in the rear (former car dealership many years ago). Oriental bikes, parts and accessories remain in the original building next door (former bowling alley). New service 'check in' procedure from previous: only oriental bikes are allowed to check in at the original service desk while American - Euro bikes must check in next door at the Annex. All bikes still go to the same shop in the Annex to be serviced by the same people. ********************************************** Keep up your good works. Finding the Quickshifter and TFT display interesting. Also, as always, riding on the left side of the road gets my attention!
Seems to be a lot of miserable people and trolls in the comments today, if you don’t agree with another persons opinions don’t be a baby about it at least!! If it upsets you that much then bugger off and watch TV, great video as ever TMF 👍🏻
I'm sure TMF is big enough to take differing opinions on the chin, maybe even embrace them. We are all different, hence we ride different bikes. I'm not afraid to have my views challenged. Hence I post opinion on here, be it agreeable or differing. It's what forums are for.
I’m not moaning about differing opinions I’m moaning about people who do so in a trolling way or act like a total self appointed knob when pushing there opinions as gospel, 95% of the comments on TMF videos are all sensible folk who can uphold a debate or conversation instead of the few who rest there ugly heads like in this video
Now boys, and girls let's not fall out, tmf is a brilliant youtuber, love the stuff he puts out, but I'm not going to agree with everything he says, as long as no one is slinging out abuse, we should all be allowed to give our opinion.
Cheers for another informative and enjoyable video. Its good to be able to get a non salesmans heads up and compare it with other bikes like the Multistrada 950. Thanks for your efforts.
Agree to many negative and combative comments Having owned and ridden 2015 and 2017 I can say that the weather protection and all around comfort is better on the later bike and much better than the GS Bit worried about all the electrics triumph need to bring out a 36 month warranty considering the price of the bike now
TheMissendenFlyer No but have tried /ridden (150 miles)a GS and have many friends who Dilly between GS and GSA or RT because of weather protection/weight trade off I would like to try a GSA
Nice work as always. I'm liking the new camera position too - gives a much better impression of who's doing the talking (even if you do look a bit Stig-like with the blacked out visor!)
get a hi tech state of the art engine unit and put it in a primitive rear chain dosent make sence shaft drive wins.. although still love chain maintenance. see lots of bikes with horrendous state of rear chain.. Great vids Thanks TMF !!! Brian.
Liking the extra camera work, that makes the vid more personable, great vid as usual, any chance of reviewing used stuff with hints and tricks to newer bikers or first big bike. Thanks again TMF
Looking for another comfortable but nimble and fast sports touring bike. My "adventures" are on paved mountain roads. The Tiger is worth consideration but I've heard decidedly mixed reviews. I don't want a GS because I simply don't want one. I loved my 1st generation Multistrada but it finally had too many mechanical problems and I didn't care for my test ride on the new one. Felt like I was sitting down inside the bike. I look forward to your concluding summation of the Tiger.
Very interesting,i would be more interested in a non electronic version a few years down the line. Great to see shaft drive,for serious year round use rather than a summer toy i think shaft drive is a no brainer. Tyres. What is you're experience with the various brands and styles? Possible good length feature here?
Fantastic motorcycle, but I think the Tiger 800 is right for me. A bit lighter weight and plenty of power for me. Plus, I love to ride off-road and I think a more nimble bike is easier to throw around in the dirt, but if I was strictly a rode ride the 1200 would be on my short list.
It'll be interesting to see how this pans out MF now the latest Tiger is on a par price wise with the GS, especially if the rumoured 150ps VVT 1250 boxer engine turns up in the GS in the autumn. One thing's for sure, with the adventure market being so big and the other players wanting to knock BMW off top spot it's keeping them all on their toes which can only be good for us riders (if expensive!). Looking forward to your long term review and conclusions
I have had a Tiger 800 XCA for 1 1/2 year now, 5000 miles. Totally Trouble free, very enjoyable machine, a toy, I love it ! Thinking of upgrading my means of transport... for this one Triumph 1200 or the german one. When shall we watch THe definitive fair comparison ? ( note: if it favors the Triumph it will make my choice easier). Pascal
Another great, informative video TMF! Really impressed with this bike, the only thing stopping me is the price, by the time you add luggage etc.. I've read (MCN) its pushing towards £20k? Wait a year or two and it will be half that, making it a second hand bargain. Another down side is the servicing cost, an owner told me the 20k service is £800+...
Excellent points, looking forward to what you feel are the cons for this bike. But please hurry, I’m trying to decide between this & the ‘18 GSA right now. 😊
That's what ya call luxury touring. Pretty nice looking too for that kinda thing. I'll probably be keeping the Versys though. It'll do all the important things that does just about as well and cost half the price. Just rolled 40k miles on her and she's breaking in nicely. The only electronics I need on a bike are XM radio and a GPS to find me somewhere to eat and get gas. Doesn't appear the Triumph has either. On my Versys, the ABS is kind of a pain as before going off road I have to pull the fuse to kill it. Hopefully, Triumph made that a switchable affair like it is on my Thruxton. They seem sensible like that. I also love the shaft drive for its low maintenance, but they are heavy, expensive, and rob a lot of power from the rear wheel. Not an issue for me, but that's why they typically aren't used on off road bikes. Chains are as simply, light, cheap, and durable as it gets off road.
Loving the review definitely interested in the 1200 but only really for the shaft drive but still feel the 800 is powerful enough for me just loving the Tiger
Excellent review TMF, I don’t have a Triumph anymore sold it for a GS, but I can relate to your top five likes, the new bike is a big improvement over the previous model and will sell well. The big question is would you have one over your GS ? Keep up the good work.
#1 should be that it is able to parked on double-yellows without a getting a ticket ;-) Really enjoyed the review, TMF. Lovely looking beast, and looks well thought out. Not sure about two of your points though: the shaft drive is definitely not advantageous off road - it adds weight, complexity, is a real problem if struck by a rock or damaged, or you get a flat. Chains are easy to maintain, lighter and readily replaceable anywhere in the world. Second, while the engine is wonderful, having to rev it over 7k revs to get the best out of it is not conducive to control it when off road; for a large bike off road; you want low end torque and chugability...Still, none of that would stop me owning one! Keep up the good work and ignore the righteous :-)Cheers.
Great video as always, I can only have one bike and want to move up to a machine which can do two up touring, two up days out, commuting and fun riding. Clearly you can't have everything - I am keen to test ride this machine to see how close it gets. I rode the R1200GS a few days ago two up and it was great but I did miss my street triple's engine!
Thanks - I planned to ride both, people have said the 800 will bore me and doesn't have enough power for two up and luggage. Time to test it out! My instincts tell me I'll end up with a GS!@@TheMissendenFlyer
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Great update to what for me (an Explorer Mk1 owner) is a very interesting long term test... As it happens I had a test ride on one yesterday and have to agree with your findings so far, albeit my test was pretty short! This bike feels light years ahead of my Mk1 and the only thing I wasn't keen on was the pretty long travel on the clutch before bite point. Have you finally found a proper rival for your GS, TMF?
Thanks TMF, was looking forward to this as well as your forthcoming longer term review of the T12. I am considering getting one, the XRT version, but it's the two obvious downsides that almost every reviewer mentions which I'm wary about, height and weight. I'm also 5'8" like you and sitting on one at the dealers with a standard seat in the lowest position meant that I could not flat foot it both sides at once it but only on toes or balls of my feet at best. I've not ridden it yet though. I'm also getting on a bit so that weight becomes a more important factor as you age. But it's not weight or height on the go that matters, it's when you are parking or getting it on the centre stand or needing to push it around or stopping on an adverse camber road that these two factors can be quite a problem. So I'm thinking more of the T8 XRT which I have tested. I liked that bike a lot with its lower weight and lower height but it does have chain drive and there is no quickshifter option.
As always, an interesting review. As you ride many bikes, some of which are tall and heavy, can I suggest a subject for a future vlog? "TMF's Tricks and Tips for Living with a Tall Heavy Bike". I know the interweb abounds with videos of 5 foot nothing guys running alongside their GSes and backflipping onto them, but I would be interested in real-world advice from a level headed guy such as your good self. If I remember correctly from a comment on a recent review, you refused to review one of the KTM Adventures because it was too tall/heavy. When such a bike is moving weight and height may actually be an advantage, but in those few seconds just before it starts rolling, or just before it has fully come to a graceful stop weight and height can be be a real challenge. One tiny moment of inattention, one small mistake, and wham you are over on your side!
I'm 5'7" and of a certain age like you and test rode the gen1 Explorer . I found it too big and heavy for me at low seeds so bought a factory lowered GS instead. I appreciate that the current gen3 Tiger is loads better but it's still a big heavy bike. If you haven't tried one give a GS a go and then the 1200 Tiger and see which you prefer (I rode them back to back along the same roads) as only you will know which best suits your needs.
Thanks. I've just tested a new GS with the low seat, not the lowered suspension, and found it okay getting my feet down and also putting it on the centre stand etc. I am nearly certain therefore that I'm going to order one because the T12XRT, lovely bike though it is, just is too high (no low seat available for the XRT model) and heavy. The GS, as well as being quite a bit lighter and offering a low seat, has other superior features too, especially the integrated nav and the excellent Vario cases with their lack of ugly visible scaffolding mounts when riding without them as I often will. I agree with TMF on this point. On the other hand I found the quickshifter on the GS to be crude and jerky whereas on the T12XRT it is far superior, very smooth. That wonderful triple engine is superior too in my view and it has other nice touches like illuminated switches and a heated seat and spotlights as standard. But on balance the GS wins, for me, though it's unfortunate that the quickshifter is so awkward. Had it before on an RT which was similarly crude and I thought that BMW would have improved it by now but it's not much better on the latest GS. Bit of a shame really about the T12XRT because if there was little to choose between it and the GS on height and weight, I would have preferred to buy Triumph. Have a Street Scrambler which is one great bike.
Although not the best in the world I'm starting to get used to the GSAP on my 2018MY GS and wouldn't be without it now. Agree with what you say about the T12, lovely bike but just too big and heavy for me, a shame as I too would have liked to buy Triumph.
I had an Explorer 1200, and it was tall and top heavy. Still, it was fun to ride until it was time to change the air filter. ALL DAY JOB! The shaft drive never gave a problem, but the computer started acting up and they never were able to fix it. Also, I've read that you can't get all the options on the lowered version. What's up with that? I now have a 2016 GS lowered version that is loaded.
Hi Flyer, My word didn't expect this to cause so much debate! I was wondering do you have any plans to try the new adventure riding experience Triumph are about to open in Brecon Beacons.Keep on keeping on 😎
Can you try too ride the new 2018 Tiger 800, you did the long term report on the old model but the new model which I own bears no resemblance to the old model, I owned the old model for 3 years, before buying the new model and the new model is simply fantastic, Its in my opinion the best motorcycle of its type you can buy, they have made so many changes for the better, they have done a wonderful job .
Great review as always, this one is top of my list and almost decided. On another note, what's the brand of your adventure suit ?, its very nice. Take care Pete
As a fellow triumph owner I can say this. The triumph explorer is probably the best bike on the planet. Its so comfortable and reliable. It's a massive machine that provides plenty of protection from the elements. The bike is wicked fast. Throttle by wire is instantaneous power. The only negative I have is, I had to put 2 inch risers on the handlebars. And it's got a bit of vibration at 80mph. Other than that, it's brilliant.
Thanks for another great video. Really looking forward to your long term review as I'm in the market for this or a GS TE - how long do you have the bike by the way? I have so far done 3x 3-day trips to Wales following the same route on the 2018 GS TE, 2018 Multistrada 1260S and 2017 Explorer XCA but haven't found anywhere to rent the new Tiger so have only had a couple of hours test drive on it so far. The GS is currently out in front in my evaluation just because it is so easy to live with but comparing it to the old Explorer is not a fair test. I prefer the engine and quick-shifter of the Triumph, which I'm glad you added in at the end as it seems so much smoother than the GS's or the Multistrada's and the main things I didn't like about the GS were the gearbox and engine sound. I didn't find the Explorer's seat nearly as comfortable as the GS TE over 3 days (6+ hours in the saddle each day) but that may have been improved with the new Tiger (difficult to say with only a 2 hour test ride.) When looking at the negatives, interested to see if you find any issues with bar vibes as I did on my test ride (although not with the old Explorer) and how you feel about it's slow speed manoeuvrability (which is excellent on the GS.) Thanks for the great info.
Another great review TMF and an obviously hugely competent motorcycle bristling with cutting edge technology. That said, and indeed as TMF has previously referenced in respect of both Tiger and GS...once "specced up" your change from 20k might just stand you a Friday night kebab in Bradford. I'd have to flog my Triumph Rocket, Yam XJR1300 and 2009 GSAdv to buy one new Tiger and I just know that one such singular acquisition would never match the collective pleasure currently derived from 3 distinctly different rides....twin, triple and four. The single biggest issue to my mind is the temptation to endlessly chase the next update, makeover, redesign, technological innovation or other claimed improvement...it's a bit like running for the horizon...ever alluring but never achieved...it's the scourge of the modern era that great bikes rapidly become "earlier models" thus sewing early seeds of dissatisfaction for all but the very well off. As another "Wheeler", Boethius, once said....Mutability is......
I completely agree sir - which is why I still ride an "old" Street Triple, "old" GS , an "old" 899 Panigale and Honda CRF - to my mind, still each the cracking bike I bought originally...
Superb TMF! Shaft drive really simplifies life. If you could simply hand in your GS and pick this one up - would you? Keep the great content flowing. Cheers
Comfort vs style has become more important as the mass of the biking population ages. Not a priority at 25, essential at 50 plus. :: Once you've had a bike with shaft drive, the idea of going back to a chain isn't appealing. :: Personally, electronic gadgets beyond ABS and traction control, it's not something I'd look for. Not that I've ever had a bike that's had either, but have needed them from time to time. Scary stuff. :: You can't beat effortless big engine horsepower and torque when it comes to putting a massive grin on your face. :: Handling is what makes a great bike, as you've said before there are no bad bikes, but a bike that intuitively handles is a dream to own.
Had a Moto Guzzi for 10 years, shaft drive great bike. Had a number of chain bikes since no problem at all. They've also been great bikes and I'd missed out on them if only stayed with shaft drive.
splodge 57: Agreed. In between having a BMW R100RT and my current Honda ST1100, I had Kawasaki ZZR1100 which was obviously a chain drive. Lovely bike with wild performance compared to the other two mentioned. Loads of fun and an experience not to be missed.
Usual high quality vlog. Like the use of two cameras - perhaps also include 360 camera on your scenic touring vids to come. Well reasoned top five. 👍 However, perhaps a bike to "rent" rather than buy, as I'd hate to think of the cost of any repairs for that high tech piece of equipment 😬.
Love the video and stellar work as usual. Could you please do a comparison of these bikes from different years - for e.g. how does the 2018 Tiger 1200 compare with the 2014 1200? It would be very useful for people trying to get on the adventure bike scene but can't afford the top billings for the new models. And you wouild also have a never ending supply of video content :). Cheers mate. Oh, further edit...love the new GoPro angles. Much better to view you as you speak.
So top 5 and an honourable mentions... but would you take this over the GS or GSA? I wouldn't mind trying it to see what's so great about this triple engine. I think this iteration is nicer looking than the previous models but not sure I'd trade my 2014 GSA for one. Test riding a 2018 GSA and RT this Friday with a view to upgrade.
For what it's worth Mr Flyer could you add maybe a little comparison to the GS ?? This fall I will be purchasing one or the other and your opinion does matter...As always, great video.
I've always been curious as to the advantages (and maybe some disadvantages) of the BMW anti-dive Telever front suspension set up. Has Triumph dialled in anti-dive with software I wonder?
Shaft drive good for off-roading... that explains all the enduro and motorcross bikes with shaft drive? ;) I kid, brilliant video as always! Edit: Wouldn't the quickshifter/autoblipper count as electronics? :)
FW- 190 "BMW" engine. Spitfire "ROLLS ROYCE" engine now owned by BMW. If in Munich the BMW Museum & The Deutsches Museum is well worth a visit! As is RAF Hendon London
Hey, is that visor road legal? I'll have to get out all the free ones I got with various helmets if so! It needs to be BS or EC approved or your mates at Principal will refuse any claim. I think that's only OK on track? Or maybe I'm behind the times? Just saying!
Hii....I'm 5'5 height ....riding Royal Enfield Himalayan now ....plan to upgrade to a big machine ...triumph tiger 1200 and bmw 1200 gs are the options ....is my height a problem on riding those big machines.. ... Please reply
Sorry to say Joe but I think yes - I'm 5'8" and the GS is manageable with a low seat, the Tiger only just so...I think at 5'5" you will struggle...sorry that's not what you wanted to hear...all the best - TMF
It is much nicer to hear the pros and cons together. The Motorcyclist Favorites and Fails is a great format. The only thing better is a head-to-head comparison to another bike in the same class.
I'd love too but actually getting hold of them is logistically difficult (read time consuming)....I am hoping to do some though, I have an idea for a series that I've been meaning to do for ages...
Try as they like Triumph, this bike will never be better than the BMW GS. Simply the boxer engine keeps it's weight much lower. After experiencing keyless, electronic suspension and loads of gadgets on a Multistrada, I've no wish to repeat the experience on any manufacturers machine. Please Triumph make a touring version of your Street Triple but don't make it tall and heavy like the the Tiger.
Great review as usual mate. Definitely at the top of my list as a replacement for my Vstrom 1000. Appreciate the videos and reviews as always. Ride safe brother.
Great vid again T m f It would be a boring world if we all like the same thing but at the end of the day a motorcycle can mean different things to different people .that's what being a motorcyclist is all about be it 50cc all a 1300cc it's all interesting
TheMissendenFlyer if you reviewed more about adv bike, make sure you put side and top box mate. Oh anyway what do you think about motorcycle at my profile picture?
Insurance companies are loathed to publish warranty claims for fear of upsetting their customers would be interesting reading seeing which one's are the least reliable.
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This review, among other, helped me pull the trigger on a 2019 1200. I love it. I've had it since December 2019, and it always puts a smile on my face-parked, or driving.
Key for me on any machine is handling and a great engine, triumph seem to have perfected that Art of delivering that package for your average rider.
I like your comments " header " A very informative review. I greatly enjoyed it, especially the engine sound. Several good bits of engine revving !!
Thank you for another great video. Your video's are what convinced me to give Triumph's a try. I recently bought a 2011 Tiger 1050 ABS for longer distances to go with my KLR 650. I have to say, I'm absolutely loving the Triumph and I could see a Tiger 1200 in my future. Just wanted to say thank you for all the hard work you put into your video's. They got me through a cold Canadian winter haha.
Cheers Dave, glad you found them of interest and good move getting the 1050 - I love those bikes and miss the awesome engine on my old 2009 model...
I have lived with the smaller tiger 800 xca for almost 2 years, heated seats and grips a hoot the ABS, tilt angle sensing all really good as was comfort..I'm trading it in for something lighter and not top heavy this week; but very sad to see it go I can only imagine the newer bigger brother is an improvement.. love your vids, inspirational!
So what are you getting?
A gloss black T100, cruise control, heated grips, and nice bar end mirrors.. cant wait! :-)
I would like to see a test on the best big bikes for long distance touring 2 up with panniers/camping gear etc tourer v adventure bike etc , I will join you if you want 😉
Lovely bike - picked my new Tiger 800 XRT last Friday - 40 mile trip home in monsoon-type weather. Bike plastered! Might be an age thing but the 800 is all the power I need! Don't even miss the quick shifter that my S1000XR had. Ur right - very very comfortable. Cheers, Jon.
Congratulations Jon! ...enjoy....
I've got the original '12 model and I love it, bought it with a carbon Leo Vince can wth no baffle (and triumphs exhaust remap).
Absolutely love it, it does everything I need and it sounds amazing all the time. Recently been doing a 180 mile trip each way the last few weekends and it's dead comfy at 80+ on the motorway, handles great in the corners, an excess of overtaking power.
My only criticism would be the traction control, it's pretty shit tbh, I pulled a fairly large wheelie (on purpose) on a crest in the road the other day without it kicking in, and also nearly lost the back end on a wet road when I first got it without any intervention of the tc, but sometimes it kicks in and stops you, especially when pulling away off the line fast. So I just ride it as if it hasn't got it now, which doesn't bother me that much.
When I eventually get another bike it will the newer version of mine... just as long as it has a decent exhaust on it as it sounds so good
How tall are you out of interest Scot?
I've just had to hand my loan Tiger 1200 back to triumph after an all too brief 4 weeks. Got to agree with your comments on the handling. It's so much better than the previous explorer, which I also loved.
With everyone rushing in gizmos like TFT screens to keep up with the competition, I'm amazed no one else has done the electric screen thing yet after several years being on the triumph?! Its a small thing, but is a real plus in my book.
Yes I agree...
Excellent review 👍🏻🏍 I’ve just put a deposit down on a new Triumph Explorer 1200 ! I’ve got theTiger 800 XCA and it’s been bullet proof in fairness.
First class blog again only thing I would disagree with is tft screen I prefer the old version clocks etc much more to my liking keep up the good work
Cheers mark - will do...
For those, who are sceptical, it's all true. I've been riding for 21 years now on soooo many bikes. I own the XRT model for a couple of weeks now and I can honestly say, this is the best bike I've ridden so far. It does the job in every single way. I don't ride off road but it's the only form of transport that I have, so it works for me.
Nice one Hristo - out of interest have you ridden a new BMW GS?
TheMissendenFlyer unfortunately not. I may test ride one in the near future.
Very well summarised... Especially Point No.4 & 1 also 😅 Its the shaft thats making me tilt towards the 1200 over the 800.. although the 800 is sufficient for my needs 😊. Too lazy to keep cleaning and maintaining the chain. Cheers❤
Have watched a number of your videos it was a toss up between the bmw gsa & the tiger 1200 xca and for the purpose l need I went the xca pick it up today thanks for the reviews keep them coming
Rodney Shaw Hi ! Im am torn between Tiger 1200 XCA and the GSA. What made you go for the tiger ?
Would really like your input !
Thanks !
I enjoyed it - these are really good looking bikes. I'm a Triumph fanboy, but regardless - they've done a great job on the big Tiger.
Yes and no....stay tuned!
All these adventure bikes are so amazing! You can't help but love them!
Good review.... I thought you were going to say TFT screen... but you hit all the highlights...... thx for sharing..... 🏍
What a stonking bike! I'd have one in a second if I was in the adventure market.
Thanks, once again, for a fabulous Top 5 of a fabulous bike. Triumphs rule! (Even my old 1050SE)
You’re welcome Andy, thanks for watching...
Great videos, mate. I'm looking forward to the rest of the Tiger postings you have in the pipeline. I've ridden the 2016 GS and recently the 2018 Tiger 1200. Do you have any plans to do a more in depth comparison between the GS and Tiger, strong and weak points of each one, as compared to each other? That's something I'd really appreciate, being the market for one of these. Thanks!
Yes I am thinking of doing that as a few have requested it - stay tuned!
My Trophy is up for rotation today - always watch your Triumph reviews. One stop is to have a dry chemical fire extinguisher refilled - neighbor's prized rare pickup truck caught fire saturday - he dropped comp-collision coverage recently due to employment issues and he rarely drove the truck.
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Interesting twists and turns in the Powersports business nearby. Neighborhood power sports emporium moved its watercraft business closer to water (makes sense) and turned that Annex space into a used American - Euro sales floor (occasional new bikes from unknown sources) with the shop remaining in the rear (former car dealership many years ago).
Oriental bikes, parts and accessories remain in the original building next door (former bowling alley). New service 'check in' procedure from previous: only oriental bikes are allowed to check in at the original service desk while American - Euro bikes must check in next door at the Annex. All bikes still go to the same shop in the Annex to be serviced by the same people.
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Keep up your good works. Finding the Quickshifter and TFT display interesting. Also, as always, riding on the left side of the road gets my attention!
Thanks for watching Janice!
Seems to be a lot of miserable people and trolls in the comments today, if you don’t agree with another persons opinions don’t be a baby about it at least!! If it upsets you that much then bugger off and watch TV, great video as ever TMF 👍🏻
Cheers Richard....
I'm sure TMF is big enough to take differing opinions on the chin, maybe even embrace them. We are all different, hence we ride different bikes. I'm not afraid to have my views challenged. Hence I post opinion on here, be it agreeable or differing.
It's what forums are for.
I’m not moaning about differing opinions I’m moaning about people who do so in a trolling way or act like a total self appointed knob when pushing there opinions as gospel, 95% of the comments on TMF videos are all sensible folk who can uphold a debate or conversation instead of the few who rest there ugly heads like in this video
Now boys, and girls let's not fall out, tmf is a brilliant youtuber, love the stuff he puts out, but I'm not going to agree with everything he says, as long as no one is slinging out abuse, we should all be allowed to give our opinion.
Well said Richard...
Cheers for another informative and enjoyable video. Its good to be able to get a non salesmans heads up and compare it with other bikes like the Multistrada 950. Thanks for your efforts.
Cheers Mark - appreciated....
Top stuff. Like the camera angle facing you. Looking splendid.
Agree to many negative and combative comments
Having owned and ridden 2015 and 2017 I can say that the weather protection and all around comfort is better on the later bike and much better than the GS
Bit worried about all the electrics triumph need to bring out a 36 month warranty considering the price of the bike now
Out of interest Johnny, have you owned a GS in the past?
TheMissendenFlyer
No but have tried /ridden (150 miles)a GS and have many friends who
Dilly between GS and GSA or RT because of weather protection/weight trade off
I would like to try a GSA
Nice work as always. I'm liking the new camera position too - gives a much better impression of who's doing the talking (even if you do look a bit Stig-like with the blacked out visor!)
...it's not new by the way, I just don't often get the chance to do it (plus it's an editing nightmare)....
Andrew Tunnicliffe I was thinking exactly the same about the B camera position.
Another excellent review of the 1200! Seals the deal for me... Looks like the Rocket III is getting a stallmate. Adventure is king.
Cheers Jim!
Yeah I like the different camera views. Nice variation.
So 6 things to love.....good review and look forward to the others. Love the engine note. Keep up the good work.
Thanks John - more on this bike coming next week - stay tuned!
get a hi tech state of the art engine unit and put it in a primitive rear chain dosent make sence shaft drive wins.. although still love chain maintenance. see lots of bikes with horrendous state of rear chain.. Great vids Thanks TMF !!! Brian.
Liking the extra camera work, that makes the vid more personable, great vid as usual, any chance of reviewing used stuff with hints and tricks to newer bikers or first big bike. Thanks again TMF
I'd love too Tony - stay tuned!
Looking for another comfortable but nimble and fast sports touring bike. My "adventures" are on paved mountain roads. The Tiger is worth consideration but I've heard decidedly mixed reviews. I don't want a GS because I simply don't want one. I loved my 1st generation Multistrada but it finally had too many mechanical problems and I didn't care for my test ride on the new one. Felt like I was sitting down inside the bike. I look forward to your concluding summation of the Tiger.
...coming up the Friday after next Alberto....
Very interesting,i would be more interested in a non electronic version a few years down the line. Great to see shaft drive,for serious year round use rather than a summer toy i think shaft drive is a no brainer.
Tyres. What is you're experience with the various brands and styles? Possible good length feature here?
Fantastic motorcycle, but I think the Tiger 800 is right for me. A bit lighter weight and plenty of power for me. Plus, I love to ride off-road and I think a more nimble bike is easier to throw around in the dirt, but if I was strictly a rode ride the 1200 would be on my short list.
It'll be interesting to see how this pans out MF now the latest Tiger is on a par price wise with the GS, especially if the rumoured 150ps VVT 1250 boxer engine turns up in the GS in the autumn. One thing's for sure, with the adventure market being so big and the other players wanting to knock BMW off top spot it's keeping them all on their toes which can only be good for us riders (if expensive!). Looking forward to your long term review and conclusions
Should be posted the Friday after this one if all goes to plan!
TheMissendenFlyer Oooo you tease LOL
:0)
Lies.It didnt get posted on Friday.Fake hype and revisit bait.
e said "....the Friday AFTER this one", so it's due to be published this Friday i.e. the 11/5/2018
Good video. I love the sound a triple makes on the charge.
Yes, once you wind the big Tiger up she sounds pretty sweet!
I have had a Tiger 800 XCA for 1 1/2 year now, 5000 miles. Totally Trouble free, very enjoyable machine, a toy, I love it ! Thinking of upgrading my means of transport... for this one Triumph 1200 or the german one. When shall we watch THe definitive fair comparison ? ( note: if it favors the Triumph it will make my choice easier).
Pascal
The final long term video will be posted in a week or two - stay tuned!
I look forward to your more detailed review of this Triumph.
Coming up soon Robert....stay tuned!
Another great, informative video TMF! Really impressed with this bike, the only thing stopping me is the price, by the time you add luggage etc.. I've read (MCN) its pushing towards £20k? Wait a year or two and it will be half that, making it a second hand bargain. Another down side is the servicing cost, an owner told me the 20k service is £800+...
Phew! That's a bit salty!
Excellent points, looking forward to what you feel are the cons for this bike. But please hurry, I’m trying to decide between this & the ‘18 GSA right now. 😊
I'll be posting my final longer term video on the Friday after next - stay tuned!
That's what ya call luxury touring. Pretty nice looking too for that kinda thing. I'll probably be keeping the Versys though. It'll do all the important things that does just about as well and cost half the price. Just rolled 40k miles on her and she's breaking in nicely.
The only electronics I need on a bike are XM radio and a GPS to find me somewhere to eat and get gas. Doesn't appear the Triumph has either. On my Versys, the ABS is kind of a pain as before going off road I have to pull the fuse to kill it. Hopefully, Triumph made that a switchable affair like it is on my Thruxton. They seem sensible like that.
I also love the shaft drive for its low maintenance, but they are heavy, expensive, and rob a lot of power from the rear wheel. Not an issue for me, but that's why they typically aren't used on off road bikes. Chains are as simply, light, cheap, and durable as it gets off road.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
Loving the review definitely interested in the 1200 but only really for the shaft drive but still feel the 800 is powerful enough for me just loving the Tiger
Stay tuned Gavin - my last video on this bike will be posted back end of next week!
Looks a cracking bit of kit. Especially shaft drive... Getting fed up of chains & maintenance 🙄
Yeah, shaft drive is rather nice it has to be said...thanks for watching - TMF
I like cleaning my chain ,any excuse to get away from the misses lol,I wish my chain was 15 foot long
2022 New (Tiger 1200) kid in town, completely refined , most likely, will drive this version prices dramatically down
Excellent review TMF, I don’t have a Triumph anymore sold it for a GS, but I can relate to your top five likes, the new bike is a big improvement over the previous model and will sell well.
The big question is would you have one over your GS ? Keep up the good work.
Stay tuned for the next video on the big Tiger next week to find out!
Another very good video sir. Not ridden one yet but looks like i should do.!!
#1 should be that it is able to parked on double-yellows without a getting a ticket ;-) Really enjoyed the review, TMF. Lovely looking beast, and looks well thought out. Not sure about two of your points though: the shaft drive is definitely not advantageous off road - it adds weight, complexity, is a real problem if struck by a rock or damaged, or you get a flat. Chains are easy to maintain, lighter and readily replaceable anywhere in the world. Second, while the engine is wonderful, having to rev it over 7k revs to get the best out of it is not conducive to control it when off road; for a large bike off road; you want low end torque and chugability...Still, none of that would stop me owning one! Keep up the good work and ignore the righteous :-)Cheers.
Thanks for watching and for stopping by! All the best - TMF
Great video as always, I can only have one bike and want to move up to a machine which can do two up touring, two up days out, commuting and fun riding. Clearly you can't have everything - I am keen to test ride this machine to see how close it gets. I rode the R1200GS a few days ago two up and it was great but I did miss my street triple's engine!
How about the new Tiger 800's - I far prefer them over the 1200....
Thanks - I planned to ride both, people have said the 800 will bore me and doesn't have enough power for two up and luggage. Time to test it out!
My instincts tell me I'll end up with a GS!@@TheMissendenFlyer
so... the 800 is lovely but the 1200 amazing! That is the bike for me, just need to find the money :-)@@TheMissendenFlyer
Another great review, always love your videos. Thank you!
Thanks for watching Chris...
Thank you.Pity the Triumph dealership supply chain has been broken and re-introduced in SA.Now starting up again.
It has Bruce?? What happened??
www.zabikers.co.za/2018/03/02/new-distributor-appointed-triumph-motorcycles-south-africa/
From last summer:
www.iol.co.za/motoring/bikes/sa-triumph-prices-tumble-as-old-importer-bows-out-11003418
fallout between importers Kawasaki SA and Triumph.New importers now established.Hurt some people I suspect.
Oh dear :0(
Great update to what for me (an Explorer Mk1 owner) is a very interesting long term test... As it happens I had a test ride on one yesterday and have to agree with your findings so far, albeit my test was pretty short! This bike feels light years ahead of my Mk1 and the only thing I wasn't keen on was the pretty long travel on the clutch before bite point.
Have you finally found a proper rival for your GS, TMF?
Stay tuned for Friday's video to find out! (and I agree on that long travel clutch!)....
Odds are that is the same loan bike they gave me to make my Triumph film. Great top 5.
...so are you the fella they get to do their pro filming? Loving your work...
TheMissendenFlyer Was only my first film for them, but potentially more to come. Have followed your channel for ages, keep the great content coming.
Thanks TMF, was looking forward to this as well as your forthcoming longer term review of the T12. I am considering getting one, the XRT version, but it's the two obvious downsides that almost every reviewer mentions which I'm wary about, height and weight. I'm also 5'8" like you and sitting on one at the dealers with a standard seat in the lowest position meant that I could not flat foot it both sides at once it but only on toes or balls of my feet at best. I've not ridden it yet though.
I'm also getting on a bit so that weight becomes a more important factor as you age. But it's not weight or height on the go that matters, it's when you are parking or getting it on the centre stand or needing to push it around or stopping on an adverse camber road that these two factors can be quite a problem.
So I'm thinking more of the T8 XRT which I have tested. I liked that bike a lot with its lower weight and lower height but it does have chain drive and there is no quickshifter option.
...you'll be interested in my final review of this bike then! Stay tuned....
As always, an interesting review. As you ride many bikes, some of which are tall and heavy, can I suggest a subject for a future vlog? "TMF's Tricks and Tips for Living with a Tall Heavy Bike".
I know the interweb abounds with videos of 5 foot nothing guys running alongside their GSes and backflipping onto them, but I would be interested in real-world advice from a level headed guy such as your good self. If I remember correctly from a comment on a recent review, you refused to review one of the KTM Adventures because it was too tall/heavy.
When such a bike is moving weight and height may actually be an advantage, but in those few seconds just before it starts rolling, or just before it has fully come to a graceful stop weight and height can be be a real challenge. One tiny moment of inattention, one small mistake, and wham you are over on your side!
I'm 5'7" and of a certain age like you and test rode the gen1 Explorer . I found it too big and heavy for me at low seeds so bought a factory lowered GS instead. I appreciate that the current gen3 Tiger is loads better but it's still a big heavy bike. If you haven't tried one give a GS a go and then the 1200 Tiger and see which you prefer (I rode them back to back along the same roads) as only you will know which best suits your needs.
Thanks. I've just tested a new GS with the low seat, not the lowered suspension, and found it okay getting my feet down and also putting it on the centre stand etc. I am nearly certain therefore that I'm going to order one because the T12XRT, lovely bike though it is, just is too high (no low seat available for the XRT model) and heavy. The GS, as well as being quite a bit lighter and offering a low seat, has other superior features too, especially the integrated nav and the excellent Vario cases with their lack of ugly visible scaffolding mounts when riding without them as I often will. I agree with TMF on this point.
On the other hand I found the quickshifter on the GS to be crude and jerky whereas on the T12XRT it is far superior, very smooth. That wonderful triple engine is superior too in my view and it has other nice touches like illuminated switches and a heated seat and spotlights as standard. But on balance the GS wins, for me, though it's unfortunate that the quickshifter is so awkward. Had it before on an RT which was similarly crude and I thought that BMW would have improved it by now but it's not much better on the latest GS.
Bit of a shame really about the T12XRT because if there was little to choose between it and the GS on height and weight, I would have preferred to buy Triumph. Have a Street Scrambler which is one great bike.
Although not the best in the world I'm starting to get used to the GSAP on my 2018MY GS and wouldn't be without it now. Agree with what you say about the T12, lovely bike but just too big and heavy for me, a shame as I too would have liked to buy Triumph.
Like the new camera TMF!
It's not new but thanks anyway!
I had an Explorer 1200, and it was tall and top heavy. Still, it was fun to ride until it was time to change the air filter. ALL DAY JOB! The shaft drive never gave a problem, but the computer started acting up and they never were able to fix it. Also, I've read that you can't get all the options on the lowered version. What's up with that? I now have a 2016 GS lowered version that is loaded.
Stay tuned for my final summary on this bike next week!
Hi Flyer, My word didn't expect this to cause so much debate! I was wondering do you have any plans to try the new adventure riding experience Triumph are about to open in Brecon Beacons.Keep on keeping on 😎
...err nothing firm, I got invited to the launch as it happens but couldn't go....
Great video as usual! So better 1290 Adventure s, BMW GS or the big Tiger? Cheers
Stay tuned for the next video to find out!
Can you try too ride the new 2018 Tiger 800, you did the long term report on the old model but the new model which I own bears no resemblance to the old model, I owned the old model for 3 years, before buying the new model and the new model is simply fantastic, Its in my opinion the best motorcycle of its type you can buy, they have made so many changes for the better, they have done a wonderful job .
Sounds good Colin, I liked the old 800, so I'm sure I'd love the new one!
Great review as always, this one is top of my list and almost decided. On another note, what's the brand of your adventure suit ?, its very nice. Take care
Pete
As a fellow triumph owner I can say this. The triumph explorer is probably the best bike on the planet. Its so comfortable and reliable. It's a massive machine that provides plenty of protection from the elements. The bike is wicked fast. Throttle by wire is instantaneous power. The only negative I have is, I had to put 2 inch risers on the handlebars. And it's got a bit of vibration at 80mph. Other than that, it's brilliant.
Thanks for another great video. Really looking forward to your long term review as I'm in the market for this or a GS TE - how long do you have the bike by the way?
I have so far done 3x 3-day trips to Wales following the same route on the 2018 GS TE, 2018 Multistrada 1260S and 2017 Explorer XCA but haven't found anywhere to rent the new Tiger so have only had a couple of hours test drive on it so far. The GS is currently out in front in my evaluation just because it is so easy to live with but comparing it to the old Explorer is not a fair test. I prefer the engine and quick-shifter of the Triumph, which I'm glad you added in at the end as it seems so much smoother than the GS's or the Multistrada's and the main things I didn't like about the GS were the gearbox and engine sound. I didn't find the Explorer's seat nearly as comfortable as the GS TE over 3 days (6+ hours in the saddle each day) but that may have been improved with the new Tiger (difficult to say with only a 2 hour test ride.) When looking at the negatives, interested to see if you find any issues with bar vibes as I did on my test ride (although not with the old Explorer) and how you feel about it's slow speed manoeuvrability (which is excellent on the GS.)
Thanks for the great info.
You'll definitely want to see my next video on this bike then Darius! Stay tuned....
Another great review TMF and an obviously hugely competent motorcycle bristling with cutting edge technology. That said, and indeed as TMF has previously referenced in respect of both Tiger and GS...once "specced up" your change from 20k might just stand you a Friday night kebab in Bradford. I'd have to flog my Triumph Rocket, Yam XJR1300 and 2009 GSAdv to buy one new Tiger and I just know that one such singular acquisition would never match the collective pleasure currently derived from 3 distinctly different rides....twin, triple and four. The single biggest issue to my mind is the temptation to endlessly chase the next update, makeover, redesign, technological innovation or other claimed improvement...it's a bit like running for the horizon...ever alluring but never achieved...it's the scourge of the modern era that great bikes rapidly become "earlier models" thus sewing early seeds of dissatisfaction for all but the very well off. As another "Wheeler", Boethius, once said....Mutability is......
"Sowing" not "sewing" ;-)
I completely agree sir - which is why I still ride an "old" Street Triple, "old" GS , an "old" 899 Panigale and Honda CRF - to my mind, still each the cracking bike I bought originally...
Superb TMF!
Shaft drive really simplifies life.
If you could simply hand in your GS and pick this one up - would you?
Keep the great content flowing.
Cheers
You'll have to wait for my long term sum up video the Friday after next for that one!
Comfort vs style has become more important as the mass of the biking population ages. Not a priority at 25, essential at 50 plus. :: Once you've had a bike with shaft drive, the idea of going back to a chain isn't appealing. :: Personally, electronic gadgets beyond ABS and traction control, it's not something I'd look for. Not that I've ever had a bike that's had either, but have needed them from time to time. Scary stuff. :: You can't beat effortless big engine horsepower and torque when it comes to putting a massive grin on your face. :: Handling is what makes a great bike, as you've said before there are no bad bikes, but a bike that intuitively handles is a dream to own.
Agree on all points Geoff!
Had a Moto Guzzi for 10 years, shaft drive great bike. Had a number of chain bikes since no problem at all. They've also been great bikes and I'd missed out on them if only stayed with shaft drive.
splodge 57: Agreed. In between having a BMW R100RT and my current Honda ST1100, I had Kawasaki ZZR1100 which was obviously a chain drive. Lovely bike with wild performance compared to the other two mentioned. Loads of fun and an experience not to be missed.
Great video as usual. Be interested on the handling fully loaded with panniers.
Stay tuned Nick!
Usual high quality vlog. Like the use of two cameras - perhaps also include 360 camera on your scenic touring vids to come. Well reasoned top five. 👍 However, perhaps a bike to "rent" rather than buy, as I'd hate to think of the cost of any repairs for that high tech piece of equipment 😬.
Thanks for the kind words Michael - much appreciated...
Love the video and stellar work as usual. Could you please do a comparison of these bikes from different years - for e.g. how does the 2018 Tiger 1200 compare with the 2014 1200? It would be very useful for people trying to get on the adventure bike scene but can't afford the top billings for the new models. And you wouild also have a never ending supply of video content :). Cheers mate. Oh, further edit...love the new GoPro angles. Much better to view you as you speak.
Thank you Balaji - always love to get constructive feedback and ideas! All the best - TMF
Hi any heat issues
So top 5 and an honourable mentions... but would you take this over the GS or GSA? I wouldn't mind trying it to see what's so great about this triple engine. I think this iteration is nicer looking than the previous models but not sure I'd trade my 2014 GSA for one. Test riding a 2018 GSA and RT this Friday with a view to upgrade.
Stay tuned StallyMan - my final long term video and conclusions on this bike will be published soon!
Great review as always. You mentioned it was a big old bike, were you able to flat foot it or were you on your tippy toes?
Tippy toes I'm afraid...
Nice vid TMC. The one million dollar question - GS or the Tiger 1200 - assuming you only can afford to have one?
Stay tuned for my next video on this bike that summarises my findings long term....
For what it's worth Mr Flyer could you add maybe a little comparison to the GS ?? This fall I will be purchasing one or the other and your opinion does matter...As always, great video.
Stay tuned for my final conclusions next week!
I'll be tuned in for years to come..
Excellent!
I loved mine when I had it, would you ever consider chopping in your GS for one?
Stay tuned for my long term review to find out!
Reach wise, how does the Tiger compare to your GS? Less tippy toe?
No, much taller....I flat foot my GS, tippy toe on the Tiger...
I like the jacket.
Thank you....
I've always been curious as to the advantages (and maybe some disadvantages) of the BMW anti-dive Telever front suspension set up. Has Triumph dialled in anti-dive with software I wonder?
Not enough for me they haven't!
Shaft drive good for off-roading... that explains all the enduro and motorcross bikes with shaft drive? ;)
I kid, brilliant video as always!
Edit: Wouldn't the quickshifter/autoblipper count as electronics? :)
Err yes, it would...
another TMF Special and I must say it makes me feel like buying one of those! if only not for the cost ;-(
Yes good value but still a lot of cash eh?
Please review the new Tiger 800 XCA !!
Coming soon!
TheMissendenFlyer eagerly waiting for it !!! Keep doing the great work !!
So ze question englander, vill you swop our lovely fw-190 for zis puny Spitfire?
Stay tuned for ze long term review to find out!
TheMissendenFlyer 😂😂😂😂😂😂 can't wait for the review.
FW- 190 "BMW" engine. Spitfire "ROLLS ROYCE" engine now owned by BMW.
If in Munich the BMW Museum & The Deutsches Museum is well worth a visit! As is RAF Hendon London
sandydenny4ever Good moaning Herr Flick, did you ever find zee painting of zee Fallen Madonna wiv zee big boobies by Van Klomp?
Eet is hidden avec beaucoup de camoflage dedans le lit de mon pauvre grandmere.
GS or Triumph? Oh sage of the motorbike Vlog which would you go for....you can't get away with missing that $50 question!
You'll have to wait for my long term sum up video the Friday after next for that one!
How does the shaft drive feel (transmission), when compared to the GS?
I can't tell any difference if I'm honest!
Another great video! First to comment. Winner winner chicken dinner!
Well done David - gold star all around (are you sure you watched the video first?)...
Can’t say I quite made it to #6 on the top 5...hehe. But, yes, another great one to add to the TMF vault!
Hey, is that visor road legal? I'll have to get out all the free ones I got with various helmets if so! It needs to be BS or EC approved or your mates at Principal will refuse any claim. I think that's only OK on track? Or maybe I'm behind the times? Just saying!
It's technically illegal during the day in the UK, but the police turn a blind eye. Not the case if it's dark though when you'd rightly be stopped....
Hii....I'm 5'5 height ....riding Royal Enfield Himalayan now ....plan to upgrade to a big machine ...triumph tiger 1200 and bmw 1200 gs are the options ....is my height a problem on riding those big machines..
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Please reply
Sorry to say Joe but I think yes - I'm 5'8" and the GS is manageable with a low seat, the Tiger only just so...I think at 5'5" you will struggle...sorry that's not what you wanted to hear...all the best - TMF
But can you ride this with a tank top, Bermuda shorts, and flip flops? HD cruiser dig :D
If you wish....
For a minute there i thought you was going to do Favourites and Fails like the US guys at Motorcyclist Magazine TH-cam channel ... 😉
I'll be covering the pros and cons in my longer term review coming next - stay tuned!
It is much nicer to hear the pros and cons together. The Motorcyclist Favorites and Fails is a great format. The only thing better is a head-to-head comparison to another bike in the same class.
As I said - I will be summarising all the pros and cons I've found, together, in my next video on this machine...
But...would you swap it for the equivalent year gs model?
Jb
Stay tuned for the next video to find out!
When are you doing some used bike reviews?
I'd love too but actually getting hold of them is logistically difficult (read time consuming)....I am hoping to do some though, I have an idea for a series that I've been meaning to do for ages...
They’re a hell of a lump. You’ve really gotta plan where you park so don’t park front down a hill if you’ve gotta push it backwards😂
Yes, very true….
Try as they like Triumph, this bike will never be better than the BMW GS. Simply the boxer engine keeps it's weight much lower. After experiencing keyless, electronic suspension and loads of gadgets on a Multistrada, I've no wish to repeat the experience on any manufacturers machine.
Please Triumph make a touring version of your Street Triple but don't make it tall and heavy like the the Tiger.
...yep basic laws of gravity can't be defeated I entirely agree!
Mummy i'm afraid of the big heavy bike 😂 i'm such a pussy!😂🤣
Did you forgot to diffuse the speedometer a couple of times? ;D
More a case of CBA I think....
Looks like a beast of a machine, shame the dash is reading in KPH 🤣
Yes you can switch it to MPH quite easily though....
Great review as usual mate. Definitely at the top of my list as a replacement for my Vstrom 1000. Appreciate the videos and reviews as always. Ride safe brother.
Cheers - you too Andrew...
Could that replace your GS? I think it could replace mine when the time comes.
Stay tuned for my summary in the long term review the Friday after next!
Am I going to be surprised?
Dunno.....
Lets wait and see!!
Lovely bike, noted you didn't include the price.
....yet...
...actually having thought about ti I did - in my first impressions review...did you see that?
TheMissendenFlyer fair enough!
Please compare this bike with GS1200 - THANK YOU!
STay tuned for my final long term review next Friday!
TheMissendenFlyer 🤙🏻🤙🏻
Great vid again T m f It would be a boring world if we all like the same thing but at the end of the day a motorcycle can mean different things to different people .that's what being a motorcyclist is all about be it 50cc all a 1300cc it's all interesting
Agreed!
Thank you sir.
My car is 1.6L my van is 2.0L my bike is 2.3L 😎 One has got to get ones priority right
Like it Peter - all the best, TMF
Man this is big
Sure is...heavy too....
TheMissendenFlyer if you reviewed more about adv bike, make sure you put side and top box mate. Oh anyway what do you think about motorcycle at my profile picture?
Are you thinking about change out the bmw?
You'll have to wait for my long term sum up video the Friday after next for that one!
Insurance companies are loathed to publish warranty claims for fear of upsetting their customers would be interesting reading seeing which one's are the least reliable.