not gonna lie Sam he said what you said was irrelevant and you attack him? all you have to do is say oh i thought he meant all brands but no just cant accept when your wrong on the internet
BMW upgraded their engine to the sublime R1250 GSA in 2019, now all they need to is to go back and add the electric windscreen and backlit handlebar switches. Nice job Tiger you are leading and not following. Sweet.
One item which puts me off is the one piece frame, the bike is easily written off if you drop the thing. The 800 is the same, the BMW is subframed meaning, the back end can be detached or replaced. Having said that i've been and looked, it looks cool BTW I run a GSLC
it doesn't make me want to run out and trade my 2015 Tiger 1200, but It's good to see Triumph finally make the BMW beater that I always suspected them to be capable of
Looks like an amazing bike but I'm worried about the height of the tank as I keep hearing about accidents where people shatter their pelvis from smashing into the tank. Makes me think supersports are probably the safest to crash on as you go over it easier.
hi , yesterday i buy this Tiger 1200 XRT . it comes next week . i hope i made a good decision to buy it because i did not make a test drive and i v never sitting on it . but i m 1,95 cm tall . so i think that Bike must be perfect for me . after i see your Video today i think i made the right decision . Nice Video . nice Details to see ...the Engine looks so beautifull and runs very smooth . i think i will enjoy it .
Alright, I'm impressed with the technology that bikes are coming out with now, but I wonder at what point we just decide to get back inside the car and go for a trip.
I don’t understand how this motorcycle is the same price as a very well equipped car. What goes into the engineering that gives it that value over a car?
Tom they've model after the Beemer. It is a beautiful triumph (BMW) . Even dash is modelled after new BMW. But I guess you follow the best! Must say though it is the best looking Triumph Triple 👍
Allright, next year i'm going to buy me a new bike, probebly the tiger 1200 xrt (in red) So, this video has learnd me a lot, just one question, my wife and i travel a lot with the bike (she has her own bike) how do the motor drive with suitcases? Do you notice a lot of wind there? Greetzzz
BTW the old KTM1290SA also had hill start assist, and the heated seats (as you note)...this review takes me back 7-8 years to the Apple fanboy days :) It’s too heavy, and the centre of gravity is too high.
Off topic. I saw Tom sat around the fire place at last year's MOTOGP. Found him from the photos he posted. I was camping too. Didn't take those extra few steps and chat with him though haha
Nice bike alright , shaft drive too .., but just to note : KTM 1290 SA & SAR have hill hold and all those other features , and is way lighter than the triumph , and also cheaper. .., you really need to compare those bikes (and not just a GS) as that is equally their competitor to the Triumph and not just the GS.
Looks way better than the GS. With that said, why not mount the dash/lights to the forks in the traditional tidy way instead of a giant heavy ugly structure hanging off the front? It makes no sense for bikes without full fairings. All the electronics are awesome but the reality is, when you're in the middle of nowhere with no help available, it's just more stuff to break. So these really are the SUV's of motorcycles. Comfortable, fancy, stupid-expensive, grocery getters. I would own one as a commuter if I was rich.
What's happening to biking, Triumph are now selling to Hipsters and the lifestyle bikers. The price is ridiculous and most of the gizmos are pointless and just make a bike without character and soul. Whatever happened to the bikers who could fix their own bikes and they didn't need to be wealthy to buy. I was a massive fan of Triumph until very recently when they went all corporate, paying big names to endorse their products. I have just changed my Street Triple for a Yamaha Tracer and still own a Hinckey carbed Bonneville which I will never change. I know I will get loads of grief for this comment, but I am sure there are loads out there who will agree. Comments about I am only saying this because I can't afford one are wrong, I can afford one, but I wouldn't buy any mass manufactured bike at this price.
Old timer here, hope all these new electronic gadgets are not Lucas, uncle joe was known as the prince of darkness back in the day because the electrics would just pack it in at any time, hence no lights. Had two old Bonnies way back and happened to both !!!
New technology like this will make it impossible for new riders to learn how to ride properly. Especially if it starts getting implemented into smaller cc engines.
Ugggghhhh shaft drive........I bloody hate shaft drives. Went across Canada and my buddy was riding his GS1200. Shaft drive goes, and that’s it man, he was done the trip. Needed to call a tow truck, find a BMW dealership, didn’t have the necessary parts to fix it, and after taxes labour and parts it cost him nearly half the price of the bike to fix........and it’s not a cheap bike.......I broke a chain during the trip, stopped, put a new chain on and was back on the road within 20 minutes.
Who said that? I look at mine when I change the diff oil and lube the splines. Easy few minute job. And I never have to clean chain lube off the wheel. Had 5 chained bikes with white wheels - over that...!
Bob Sacamano Well considering my Africa Twin was not brand new and the fact I put a little under 20,000km (~12,500 miles) on it after the trip was all said and done, I was very happy and surprised I had only gone through a single chain. The continuous riding day in and day out is very hard on any bike. 😄
Hill hold control and the quick shifter are added options on the super adventure, but yes the super adventure has bloody tons of electric cool gizmos aswell
RidingWithTom . Mobile phone GPS is great, until there is no reception. Friend of mine arrived very late one evening when on a country road mobile phone coverage dropped out and he took a wrong turn because he had to guess which way. GPS, have one on my bike, that's for sure. Beats stopping to look at the map like in the good old days. And don't make excuses for Triumph, at this level, GPS should be standard equipment.
Bob Sacamano. My friend has an Apple I-phone. Believe what you want. Google Maps/dirctions is great. But I wouldn't go anywhere outside of major city limits without a proper GPS, especially at night.
I don’t see how they are useless, yeah they are not needed but they are nice to have, so you would like it if we all still had wind up windows in our cars?
I have roll up windows in the back of my car cause they are not often used and the prize i would have to pay and the use i get are not on the same level. Sure, these gadgets are fun and all but there is a reason that most people buy a civic and not a bentley. A fridge in the car is cool and all and you might use it from time to time but it is normally not worth the cost, so people go for civics. If i am looking for a bike, i want it to look great, have a great engine (efficent, reliable, fun to ride) and feel good to ride (seat, suspension etc.) And i want to get the best of that for the money i have. If the bike has wireless keys, heated seats, self moving winshield etc etc etc i am paying for all of that as well. They could build the exact same bike without these gadgets and sell it for far less and i am 100% sure, they would sell more. I dont need to take calls on my super duke and still, if i want to buy one, i have to pay for this stupid gadget that i will maybe use 5 times in my life. Just give me a good and cheap bike, thats all i want And that is what 90% of the people want !
You can buy the entry level XR model without a lot of the extras for a lot less money. You still get that wonderful engine and WP suspension. You pays your money etc etc.
In 20 years when this bike is old do you think people will want all the electronics that will Fail and need replacing? How can basic work be done by us at home? We make life to easy now and forget the most basic things about riding. Not a bike you can fix on the side of the road.
Bob Sacamano a lot of people still do. I am for one. Theres a lot of old bikes on the road and if these new bikes with all this electronics go wrong then its going to be very expensive and you can't just work on it yourself as they can get very confusing.
Bob Sacamano that is very true but those electronics are also a lot simpler to work with. You just need basic electronic skills to fix the bike if anything goes wrong. Now days bikes are a lot more tricky to fix as theres soo much more electronics with the ecu/abs and all the different sensors not including the more equipped bikes such as the triumph tiger that was recently reviewed on this channel. That kind of bike will be tricky as hell to fix without speding vast amounts on replacement electronics let alone finding them.
The title could be 100% by Doug Demuro if he would make motorcycle videos :P
So what you are saying is that there are a lot of quirks and features?
Haha, I should have given it a Doug score
I wish you had a site or something where i can read more of your thoughts..
mototrader . com / oversteer?
+ Philopher mototrader . com / wheelies
@Philopher /countersteer ;)
Glad to see triumph stepping up n getting more competitive with BMW n kTM , I love it
Us Brits know how build a great bike, much better than the boring GS.
RidingWithTom is the type of guy...
forrest225 type of guy to what? Earn more than you?
kryptoniteee lol no need to be butt hurt. Its a reference to the comment section on dougs videos.
Aggzelerate to a hundred degrees 😂 just picking on ya bro. Nice bike 👍🏻
They really need to start implementing nav systems into their tachs.
I'd be such a confidence.
Sam Waters ok? He was referring to triumph...tesla have a heavy rocket...is that relevant too? You’re no Sam Wise.
Sam Waters you won’t tell me shit. Bitch.
Sam Waters go water some plants sammy boy. Hahaha
not gonna lie Sam he said what you said was irrelevant and you attack him? all you have to do is say oh i thought he meant all brands but no just cant accept when your wrong on the internet
Sam Waters no he wasn’t. He’s a nice guy.
BMW upgraded their engine to the sublime R1250 GSA in 2019, now all they need to is to go back and add the electric windscreen and backlit handlebar switches. Nice job Tiger you are leading and not following. Sweet.
Thanks for the walk around Tom. Will definitely check one out if and when we get one in Townsville. Cheers mate.
The 2017 aprilia rsv4 lets you open throttle downshift aswell!
One item which puts me off is the one piece frame, the bike is easily written off if you drop the thing. The 800 is the same, the BMW is subframed meaning, the back end can be detached or replaced. Having said that i've been and looked, it looks cool BTW I run a GSLC
it certainly is NOT worth $28K but then of course Triumph have given it to you to reach that conclusion, so we don't expect an unbiased view.
Tell me a bike in it’s class that’s cheaper
That’s Australian dollars man. 28k aud = 21k usd
it doesn't make me want to run out and trade my 2015 Tiger 1200, but It's good to see Triumph finally make the BMW beater that I always suspected them to be capable of
Or buy 2 Africa Twins!
This makes me love the relative simplicity of my KTM 690 even more.
Looks like an amazing bike but I'm worried about the height of the tank as I keep hearing about accidents where people shatter their pelvis from smashing into the tank. Makes me think supersports are probably the safest to crash on as you go over it easier.
Just bought one and love it very comfortable but being I as tall as I am I still get wind noise over the windscreen love the engine
Had to turn if off early, because I felt motion sickness. Ive see some bad camera work, but this must be the limit!
Great video! However, please invest in a gimble to reduce camera shaking!
hi , yesterday i buy this Tiger 1200 XRT . it comes next week . i hope i made a good decision to buy it because i did not make a test drive and i v never sitting on it . but i m 1,95 cm tall . so i think that Bike must be perfect for me . after i see your Video today i think i made the right decision . Nice Video . nice Details to see ...the Engine looks so beautifull and runs very smooth . i think i will enjoy it .
So when do we get a video of you taking it through the Simpson? It'll be fun!
Super cool bike! Cant wait to get my hands on one!
Alright, I'm impressed with the technology that bikes are coming out with now, but I wonder at what point we just decide to get back inside the car and go for a trip.
Please use a tripod or a gyro pod. i feel so dizzy rn :P
beautiful bike right there... amazing technology in there
Lol sorry man this does not scream 28k. The price is deep even with all the features which are not necessary.
I don’t understand how this motorcycle is the same price as a very well equipped car. What goes into the engineering that gives it that value over a car?
Tom they've model after the Beemer. It is a beautiful triumph (BMW) . Even dash is modelled after new BMW. But I guess you follow the best!
Must say though it is the best looking Triumph Triple 👍
Triumph introduced this dash on the street triple, way before BMW did and is now offering it on most of their "modern" models - Ducati even earlier
Allright, next year i'm going to buy me a new bike, probebly the tiger 1200 xrt (in red)
So, this video has learnd me a lot, just one question, my wife and i travel a lot with the bike (she has her own bike) how do the motor drive with suitcases? Do you notice a lot of wind there?
Greetzzz
I used to have an '08 Speed Triple 1050.... How do you think the torque/revviness would compare to something like that?
Don't you love the aussie birds churping?
I'd like to see it with panniers on
Isn’t that WP suspension virtually the same as on the KTM 1290SA (original version)?
BTW the old KTM1290SA also had hill start assist, and the heated seats (as you note)...this review takes me back 7-8 years to the Apple fanboy days :) It’s too heavy, and the centre of gravity is too high.
Off topic. I saw Tom sat around the fire place at last year's MOTOGP. Found him from the photos he posted. I was camping too. Didn't take those extra few steps and chat with him though haha
Damn you should have come up and said hi! Then I can pretend to my friends that I’m famous, it really annoys them
RidingWithTom Was so cold that night. Seems a little odd at the time. Should have though
My visa runs out a couple of weeks before this year's race, Which sucks. Fingers crossed I can get a quick response for a tourist visa.
Nice bike alright , shaft drive too .., but just to note : KTM 1290 SA & SAR have hill hold and all those other features , and is way lighter than the triumph , and also cheaper.
.., you really need to compare those bikes (and not just a GS) as that is equally their competitor to the Triumph and not just the GS.
$28000!!!! ummm nope. overpriced overcomplicated motorcycle. So much expensive shit to break and have to pay through the nose to repair
buy a bike then, easiest thing to ride
You only live once.
Windscreen is really loud! The BMW RT is more quiet, the GS is more quiet too albeit it is manual... LOL 😆
why does it have so many off-road features for a on road only bike? Big mudguards, floodlights, handlebar covers, tall suspension travel.
Pretty cool looking bike hey!
The most advanced bike still has no navigation! Ummmmmmm
Esta Triumph XRT 1200 esta simplesmente linda .
Looks way better than the GS. With that said, why not mount the dash/lights to the forks in the traditional tidy way instead of a giant heavy ugly structure hanging off the front? It makes no sense for bikes without full fairings.
All the electronics are awesome but the reality is, when you're in the middle of nowhere with no help available, it's just more stuff to break. So these really are the SUV's of motorcycles. Comfortable, fancy, stupid-expensive, grocery getters. I would own one as a commuter if I was rich.
Dream Bike for Enthusiastic riders....
Great review... Good job!
RidingWithTom., the most friemdly sounding man on youtube lol
Awesome review
I thought top of the range is xca (off road)
Get the panniers. Right side has a coffee maker ,left side with a pop tart toaster.
Sorry but I like bikes I can work on myself.
Great review!
Hi tom can you help me with something plz I’ve got a rmz450. If you had one what sprocket size would you run on it thx love your vids 👍🏻
Darren Arnold Depends on what you’re doing
*_Is this have autobliper ?_*
What's happening to biking, Triumph are now selling to Hipsters and the lifestyle bikers. The price is ridiculous and most of the gizmos are pointless and just make a bike without character and soul. Whatever happened to the bikers who could fix their own bikes and they didn't need to be wealthy to buy. I was a massive fan of Triumph until very recently when they went all corporate, paying big names to endorse their products. I have just changed my Street Triple for a Yamaha Tracer and still own a Hinckey carbed Bonneville which I will never change. I know I will get loads of grief for this comment, but I am sure there are loads out there who will agree. Comments about I am only saying this because I can't afford one are wrong, I can afford one, but I wouldn't buy any mass manufactured bike at this price.
new sport bike reveal? where is it?
Rsv4 and tuono auto blip on open throttle
Old timer here, hope all these new electronic gadgets are not Lucas, uncle joe was known as the prince of darkness back in the day because the electrics would just pack it in at any time, hence no lights.
Had two old Bonnies way back and happened to both !!!
WhiteDRguy 650 bonnies??? No one talks like that anymore grandpa. Get with the times.
New technology like this will make it impossible for new riders to learn how to ride properly. Especially if it starts getting implemented into smaller cc engines.
28000...!!!!! So Batter in bmd gs 1200 its best machine in all times and all conditions and
No motorcycle is worth 28,000 dollars people might buy it but that is because the buyer wants it not that it’s worth it.
daytona675r quickshifter sounds the same
Ugggghhhh shaft drive........I bloody hate shaft drives. Went across Canada and my buddy was riding his GS1200. Shaft drive goes, and that’s it man, he was done the trip. Needed to call a tow truck, find a BMW dealership, didn’t have the necessary parts to fix it, and after taxes labour and parts it cost him nearly half the price of the bike to fix........and it’s not a cheap bike.......I broke a chain during the trip, stopped, put a new chain on and was back on the road within 20 minutes.
Typically caused by a lack of maintenance...shafts are very very reliable.
Kendrick Pavey
What's the point in using a shaft drive if you're cleaning it as often as a chain?
That's because it was a BMW shaft drive. Most other manufacturers have reliable shaft drives these days..
Who said that? I look at mine when I change the diff oil and lube the splines. Easy few minute job. And I never have to clean chain lube off the wheel. Had 5 chained bikes with white wheels - over that...!
Bob Sacamano Well considering my Africa Twin was not brand new and the fact I put a little under 20,000km (~12,500 miles) on it after the trip was all said and done, I was very happy and surprised I had only gone through a single chain. The continuous riding day in and day out is very hard on any bike. 😄
So besides lack of power and an electric windscreen, what else does this bike have than a KTM 1290 Super Adventure S?
Hill hold control and the quick shifter are added options on the super adventure, but yes the super adventure has bloody tons of electric cool gizmos aswell
Did u even try negotiating the price!? I have a associate that believes the best price is the sticker price! Y’all must be cousins
You're kidding, has everything??? Doesn't have GPS standard. Even HD has GPS standard feature on their tourers. Saddlebags???
Ew people still buy gps these days? Quad lock and phone
RidingWithTom . Mobile phone GPS is great, until there is no reception. Friend of mine arrived very late one evening when on a country road mobile phone coverage dropped out and he took a wrong turn because he had to guess which way. GPS, have one on my bike, that's for sure. Beats stopping to look at the map like in the good old days. And don't make excuses for Triumph, at this level, GPS should be standard equipment.
Bob Sacamano. My friend has an Apple I-phone. Believe what you want. Google Maps/dirctions is great. But I wouldn't go anywhere outside of major city limits without a proper GPS, especially at night.
Tom DeMuro
what is this doug demuro?
oh wait thats the top comment
No knobby tyres and shaft drive? Que old man BMW rider......
Robert Deane this is the road version.
No Navi
shake shake shake shake shake shake shake shake shake shake shake shake
I think its smart to not let you down shift aint it? you going down the highway rpm then bam downshift wanna have a slipper clutch
But does it have a gyro based cornering LED headlight?
Yes it has cornering led headlights
no launch control though :P
Riding Weeb
Launch control on an adventure touring bike?
Makes sense.
$28k? No thanks.
It costs so much for sure, but it ain't worth it.
tbh 90% of the features are basically useless and if you consider, that you have to pay for it all I would rather have none ^^
I don’t see how they are useless, yeah they are not needed but they are nice to have, so you would like it if we all still had wind up windows in our cars?
I have roll up windows in the back of my car cause they are not often used and the prize i would have to pay and the use i get are not on the same level.
Sure, these gadgets are fun and all but there is a reason that most people buy a civic and not a bentley.
A fridge in the car is cool and all and you might use it from time to time but it is normally not worth the cost, so people go for civics.
If i am looking for a bike, i want it to look great, have a great engine (efficent, reliable, fun to ride) and feel good to ride (seat, suspension etc.)
And i want to get the best of that for the money i have.
If the bike has wireless keys, heated seats, self moving winshield etc etc etc i am paying for all of that as well.
They could build the exact same bike without these gadgets and sell it for far less and i am 100% sure, they would sell more.
I dont need to take calls on my super duke and still, if i want to buy one, i have to pay for this stupid gadget that i will maybe use 5 times in my life.
Just give me a good and cheap bike, thats all i want
And that is what 90% of the people want !
You can buy the entry level XR model without a lot of the extras for a lot less money. You still get that wonderful engine and WP suspension. You pays your money etc etc.
if i want a superduke i have to get all this bullshit, same with most bikes or at least some gadgets you have to get ^^
Message brought to you by “Triumph, too bad it’s a Triumph”
Here's why - it's not worth it at all!
Motorcycle SUV...
Geez those wheels are ugly - look like a Year 10 metal work project
Yeah you're a bit too excited. The bike does look nice, but when compared to a R1200GS it loses a LOT of shine. And it's terribly overpriced.
In 20 years when this bike is old do you think people will want all the electronics that will Fail and need replacing? How can basic work be done by us at home? We make life to easy now and forget the most basic things about riding. Not a bike you can fix on the side of the road.
Bob Sacamano a lot of people still do. I am for one. Theres a lot of old bikes on the road and if these new bikes with all this electronics go wrong then its going to be very expensive and you can't just work on it yourself as they can get very confusing.
Bob Sacamano that is very true but those electronics are also a lot simpler to work with. You just need basic electronic skills to fix the bike if anything goes wrong.
Now days bikes are a lot more tricky to fix as theres soo much more electronics with the ecu/abs and all the different sensors not including the more equipped bikes such as the triumph tiger that was recently reviewed on this channel.
That kind of bike will be tricky as hell to fix without speding vast amounts on replacement electronics let alone finding them.
Gentssssssssssssssss
76th
Crack pipe. Thats more than a R1M or a S1000RR nope.
Yeah cause they are similar bikes in it’s class...
Doesnt matter, were are talking about track ready bikes
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