I think the point of episode 3 (Bill & Frank) is to prove Joel's statement at the beginning of episode 2 wrong. He says to Tess about Ellie: Stop talking about her as if she has some kind of life in front of her. Joel believes that all thats left in the world is suffering, and no one can have any kind of happy ending. Episode 3 proved this wrong, you can grow old with someone and have as close to a happy ending as possible. Ellie and Joel can have a future, a life, a friendship if thats what they choose for themselves.
@@philipsparks6089 And to add onto this, it made Bill mad and cynical. Which, in the game, essentially shows Joel what he could be if he continues down this path and pushes him to be just the opposite. The show gives Joel a similar push, just in the positive. Be more like me rather than be the opposite of me. Same character development pushing Joel to open up a bit towards Ellie, just in a different way.
The point of episode 3 was to establish Joel’s purpose is now to protect Ellie like bill discovered his purpose to protect Frank. Love your reactions btw.
The people who said episode 3 doesn't advance the plot are those who only see things on the surface... Tess's last words "save who you can save" is basically the theme of episode 3 and later on, is the main message of Bill's letter...it made Joel decide to continue on the journey.
@@UltimaTheSeraph exactly!! the people who say episodes like 3 or 8 are unnecessary and have nothing to do with the story they r just lying and it’s just not true. everything connects with everything. this show does such a great job at connecting things and quotes and frases, making them all have a purpose in the story and i loved that abt it
People who think Bill and Frank didn't have a relationship in the game are probably the same people who think Korra and Asami were just really good friends.
Korra and Asami is way less obvious/less clear. Like I'm a bi woman and I want to think they were together but honestly in the end they might as well have been close friends.
@@jyjaeskz The creators wrote a blog post after the final episode aired saying their relationship was canon, but Nickelodeon wouldn't let them show it explicitly like they did with Aang and Katara in the previous series.
@@jyjaeskz i mean in one of the episode, korra is litteraly blushing when asami compliment her appereance... not even mako can make korra blushing like that lol
Others already commented about the meaning behind episode 3. With regards to the differences between the game though: the game uses Bill & Frank (who were in a relationship in both contexts) as a negative portrayal of love and human connection. Bill & Frank become estranged and bitter, Frank hangs himself, and Bill becomes deplorable to the point of earning the audience's pity and revulsion. In the game, Bill serves as a negative motivator, showcasing to Joel what he could DEVOLVE into if he continues on his current path of pushing people away from him. In the show, they decided to change things into a positive motivator via a positive portrayal of love and human connection. Bill & Frank have a long and happy life together, but tragically (or merrily?) die together, showcasing to Joel what he could EVOLVE into if he shifts away from his current path and begins to open up to other people. They discuss this in the HBO behind-the-scenes special for episode 3 where Neil Druckman (the director for the game) goes into these details and how he believes the show should only deviate from the game in scenarios where the resulting story comes out better than the story the game could tell (which is why he supported the changes).
The last episode is important for the development of Ellie and Joel's relationship, especially for Joel to change his perspective on life. you guys will realize this with the next eps
The letter from Bill is very important for the character development of Joel (and even Ellie) : You find someone and you protect him/her. The episode also touch on the burden of grief that gets heavier and heavier. Recently Tess, now Bill & Frank...
I'm sorry, but the people who said episode 3 doesn't advance the plot are those who only see things on the surface... Tess's last words "save who you can save" is basically the theme of episode 3 and later on, is the main message of Bill's letter...it made Joel decide to continue on the journey. Motivation is something invisible but crucial...without motivation there is no advancement. That's how a rich storytelling should be...not just filled with technical stuff like "okay, so we go here do this and do that then we go there"... instead there should be 'why and how' in it. How do you understand something if all you know is whether or not it works and not why and how it works?
Joel was already motivated to continue the journey to find his brother. I seriously doubt the letter made any difference on whether or not Joel would of kept going. I mean he traveled all the way to Bill and Franks specifically for a car for Christ sake.
@@nandoman4769 that's because it wasn't about finding motivation for his brother, it was about him finding someone to protect and care for. Completely missed the point there.
@@nandoman4769 as I said, only see the surface...there are subtle moments when you can see that he didn't have to take Ellie with him. Ep 3: Joel walked out with the letter and took a moment with it... (If he only needs the truck, he wouldn't even care about the content). Ep 3: he established with Ellie the rules for sticking with him after the letter scene...when he could've done that much earlier...this shows he made up his mind after the letter. Ep 4: Ellie: where would you be without me Joel: right now, in Wyoming (he's aware that Ellie is a weight he must carry and made him at a disadvantage, yet he chose to carry her anyway). Joel also started to warm up after the letter, you can see his interaction with her in the car about the song by Linda Ronstadt. This all happened after the letter. Yes, his mission is to find his brother, but he didn't have to take Ellie, because that means extra effort to protect...he could've just returned her to Boston after getting the truck then go to find Tommy. You can argue that "well, they don't need to make the story that long and just showed the letter in the end" the story is to add the gravity of the letter. It enriches the content of the letter rather than just a note passed from one to another, it shows what happened behind it.
In the game, it was hinted that Bill and Frank were romantic partners, but they were too different for each other and they had a sad ending. I think the point of Bill, in the game, was to show Joel how he would end up if he kept pushing people away. In the show they stay true to the differences between the two characters, but they gave them a happy ending instead of a sad one. Frank chose to stay with Bill in his hermit town and Bill allowed Frank to make some friends. In the end they made their own sacrifices and were happy with the life they lived. In the show, Bill teaches Joel that he has a purpose to keep going and to protect Ellie. My guess, is they really wanted to keep Bill and Frank in the story because people really enjoyed Bills character (Frank was never in the game), but there wasn't enough substance or maybe they would've needed multiple episodes? I don't know. May be they wanted a happy story somewhere in the show and they were the perfect characters to do that with.
I like that the episode gives this show this sort of balance between emotional moments and action since the game is very action focused because you know, you need something interesting to play
You guys need to watch ep 5 asap it's maybe the best so far [And from what I understand, Bill and Frank's relationship WAS canon, they just minimized it. Bill refers to frank as his "partner" and druckman has said 2013 was a different time and they didn't want to spotlight it]
"Some guy that you end up being super happy with ends up falling into your hole... your hole. " You guys are so wholesome that you ignore--or perhaps don't even notice--such Freudian slips and/or double entendre. It's sweet and unintentionally hilarious.
I think Kathleen having a soft voice is what makes her even more intriguing and intimidating, i mean how does someone who sounds so soft gets to be the top dog of a group like that? She gotta be some scary lady 😂
@@rafaelrose14 yeah, but Perry said that the brother didn't change anything, Kathleen did. So I'm assuming she's way more whiling to choose violence than her late brother 😂 I kinda wish she lived a little longer, seemed lika an interesting antagonist
@@nishamabel9607 I really disliked that line that her brother didn't change anything when in reality he did everything. he brought the people together and when he died that was the trigger for the people to act. many others died at the hands of FEDRA before him but it's his death that changed things. it's like saying MLK's death changed nothing. not recognizing that is what led to their downfall. they put their faith in someone that wasn't a leader
lol no it means she became leader by happenstance and later this turns out to be true. She didn't earn her position and she's about as intimidating as a paper bag.
Ooh, because of everything that happens next I forgot how this episode was wholesome ♡ Joel gradually warming to Ellie only makes me beamingly smile. the daughter/father-like chemistry between the actors, behind the scenes, is so adorable that they couldn’t have chosen any more perfect duo to portray these characters. Love them!
To answer y'all's questions about the 3rd episode, the point is to give Joel character progression. It becomes the start of Joel starting to care about and protect Ellie instead of thinking of her as just cargo. There will be a lot of characters who come and go but they all help the main characters journey and character arcs.
Something about the game version that goes misunderstood is how Bill and Frank didn’t hate each other, they were just too different. Frank’s suicide note is worded harshly, but that’s because he cared about Bill. When you meet Bill he tells you that he had a partner but they weighed him down and were too much risk, so he kicked them out. When you find Frank’s body is becomes clear that Frank chose to leave and Bill just isn’t taking that well - he’s in denial, similar to how Joel handled Tess’ death. In this franchise, more characters die than survive, and Bill was a rare example specifically because he was paranoid and alone. Love and attachment get people killed, but it’s worth it.
Ok here’s your cool little Easter eggs - if you look closely at the gun that Sam is holding at the end, the cylinder is actually unloaded - the guy who plays Kathleen’s like right hand man was the man who played Tommy in the game There’s probably more that I forgot but that’s all I got off the top of my head
Other people have said it, but episode 3 is the real turning point on Joel starting to build an actual relationship with Ellie since him and Bill had the same type of personalities (f the world). Without knowing what happened to Tess and that he had Ellie now, he was saying yeah the world is sh*t, but protect those that need it. Find a purpose. Also the bearded guy at 16:46 is the VA for Tommy in the game. Gets his head pulled off later.
Loved all of your reactions! I do have to add though that Bill and Frank definitely had a relationship in the game. It was off screen though as Frank is dead by the time you find him
*The significance of Bill's story in Ep3:* In the game, it's confirmed that Bill is gay (that same gay porn magazine scene is in the game) and that he and Frank were in a romantic relationship. But due to their different outlooks on life, Frank grew to resent Bill and tried to leave Bill's town before he got bit. Joel and Ellie essentially run around town looking for a car battery, but running around for supplies doesn't exactly contribute to the overall plot of the show in a meaningful way. Bill was essentially a bitter, lonely man, and he doesn't go through any sort of character arc. Instead, the show expanded on Bill and Frank's relationship to show how Bill and Frank are parallels to Joel and Tess; Bill and Joel are the more stoic, pessimistic 'protectors' who see Frank/Tess as their 'protectees' who are more optimistic and friendly. This episode is a microcosm of the whole story- how a lone survivor had no other purpose to live until he connected to another human being and found a new purpose in protecting and loving them. Joel and Tess are alluded to being basically family, tho Tess likely wanted something more but respected that Joel didn't want to be too close to her bc of his trauma of losing Sarah. But Tess' death is a reminder to Joel that he's failed his purpose of being a protector for his family twice now, and by respecting Tess' last wish to protect Ellie until they reach the Fireflies, Joel is finding a new purpose in protecting someone again. *Overall* : Bill in the game was a warning to Joel of how sad life would be without ppl to care for. But Bill in the show is the opposite and inspires Joel to not be like that, shifting Joel's perspective of Ellie in a way the show's audience can better understand through Bill's own character arc. Bill's letter impacts Joel, bc Joel knew that they were similar types of cynical survivors and that if Bill can change, he might too. Being a 'protector' of your family is a theme that's being emphasized 100x more in the show than in the game with every single side-character plotline. So the reason for Bill's flashback and letter is to culminate into the line "That's why men like you and me are here"- bc Bill's story speaks to Joel specifically bc he believes wholeheartedly. And now Joel feels responsible for protecting Ellie like family, not just cargo (tho he still lies to himself and Ellie that she's only 'cargo' bc he's still scared of getting too attached).
Fun fact: The bearded guy with the assault rifle named Perry is played by Jeffrey Pierce and he played Tommy in the game (voice and motion capturing). Awesome reaction, guys.
In defence of the last episode "not advancing the plot" Bill and Frank are characters in game and there's things you have to do in the game with Bill so I think this was a good way to implement the two characters and give their backstories and it's certainly more cinematic than seeing Bill and Joel doing side quests like in the game.
if they simply broke their happy ending they could have had Frank go missing/kidnapped and have Joe and Ellie actually interact with Bill, this series is too short to add in stories that do not advance the plot
The people who said episode 3 doesn't advance the plot are those who only see things on the surface... Tess's last words "save who you can save" is basically the theme of episode 3 and later on, is the main message of Bill's letter...it made Joel decide to continue on the journey. Motivation is something invisible but crucial...without motivation there is no advancement. That's how a rich storytelling should be...not just filled with technical stuff like okay, so we go here do this and do that then we go there... instead there should be 'why and how' in it.
@@UltimaTheSeraph you can argue it helped with Joel's motivation, but an entire episode based around side characters to achieve it? C'mon they could have and should have done better.
@@aurious5821 the could also cut the entire background story on Sam & Henry, Kathleen's group story and just started with Joel & Ellie, they also didn't have to include Left Behind episode....but that's not how a good storytelling on TV is. You missed the point.
@@UltimaTheSeraph people do argue that point and I would agree with them, it was done better in the games. Still one of the best adaptations I have seen though.
They were together in the game. That’s heavily implied. But in the game, Frank and Bill’s differences drove them apart, Frank decided to leave, but got bit and hung himself before he turned.
The point of episode 3 is to show that no one can make it in this world alone. Joel and Bill both try to a valid attachment and survive, but it’s just surviving not living. Bill learns to live because of Frank and his value of enjoying life while we’re here. Joel is scared to open up after Sarah and that’s why his relationship with Tess was never official. He needs to open up to Ellie to enjoy life and live instead of existing.
Bill & Frank were also lovers in the game, we just don't see it explored like it is in the show. The way I view Episode 3, is that it shows us an alternative timeline to what Bill could've had with Frank if he wasn't stubborn and was willing to open up to try and have a life that didn't have to only apply on Bill's terms. In the game, Bill and Frank never worked things out like they did in the show and it is the more dark and tragic scenario in their relationship (Bill still lives, but now has no companionship and lives with the torment that Frank hated him) versus the show where they have their long and happy life and die together
Episode 3 means more when you come to understand what the show is really about. This is your first time experiencing this story, so if y'all stick with it all the way through, the ending will probably reframe everything including your perspective on certain sub-plots like episode 3. As everyone keeps saying, this is not a zombies story - its about humans, their experiences, and their relationships with one another when everything else is lost. I would do anything to experience this story for the first time again, but the closest I can get is seeing other people's reactions to watching it for the first time, and I'm really happy with how the show is presenting this story to a whole new audience. Love your content as always fellas keep doing you ❤️❤️
Joel wasn't going to take Ellie. He was just going to deliver her to Bill and Frank for them take. The events of this episode were the turning point for Joel to finally accept taking and protecting Ellie all the way to her goal. It was Bill's letter in particular that sealed the deal.
its a bit indirect but in the game bills purpose (along with being a plot device to get them a truck) is to show what joel could become if he pushed away the people around him because hes all alone and a bitter old man. In the show his purpose is to show that joel should live to protect the people in his life. Its a bit indirect and doesnt connect well until the overall story is connected. Thats one thing about both of the last of us games, certain story beats are kind've weird until you have the whole story put together. There was also a mad fire line that was skipped. when the fake injured guy shows up joel in the game said: "he's not even hurt"
Episode 3 is far from filler the whole world of the last of us is about character relationships and it pivotal in how Joel starts to view Ellie. Plus it’s just a stunningly well made piece of tv.
4:44 I hear you Cannon. I can confirm (actually google can confirm) that gasoline does break down over time. It only lasts a few months. About 3-6 months.
I can’t lie I’ve never seen a TH-cam channel off the bat be as successful as this one. Y’all made the right decision making a YT. I really like it keep up the good work!!
Also (sorry for comment spam), shouts to Connor for his editing skills. Not sure if he's still the one doing the edits and video uploads, but the little quirky cuts really add some flavour and personality to the uploads. Good shit.
Bill and Frank were in a relationship in the game, the difference between the two is in the game they ended on bad terms. In the show they got a happy ending
22:18 Sometimes I wish Jackson would speak up more instead of mumbling to himself (no offense intended) because that was a really good catch. I didn't even notice that my first watch. I only realized that after hearing Neil or Craig mention it in their podcast. Also props to Cannon for making the others aware that he caught that. Typical W for Cannon.
In the game it is implied that Bill and Frank were in a relationship and had a falling out. Frank left and when he did he got infected and instead of waiting to turn he chose the alternative.
Ep 3 is character development for Joel, THROUGH other characters. If we're not shown Bill & Frank's relationship we might not get the importance/value of having someone to fight for in this bleak world.
It's implied they were in a relationship for a while but the deviation is that Frank got Bill to open his heart to actually living instead of just surviving in the show (as seen in the scene where they were arguing about fixing up the shops in the town with paint and stuff) but in the game Frank never got Bill to open his heart so they ended up clashing and Frank hated that Bill never got that in their situation it was ok to open up and live... So basically two different story lines, one where Bill is too stubborn and never actually lives (and all the negative outcomes that brings) and one where Frank did manage to get through to Bill and they live happily ever after lol
Bill and Frank were in a relationship in the game. There was some sort of falling out before Joel and Ellie show up. They eventually find the letter and then Frank's hanging body. Bill is visibly shaken, voice wavering and refers to Frank as his partner. It's pretty clear based on everything that happens and is discussed up to that point who they are in relation to one another. For the show, it also makes Frank storming out of the house during that argument before they reveal the year a bit of a fake out, at least for me, because it made as if we were going to see the argument that leads to the following events in the game, but then does a whole 180.
i swear 99% of brigg’s jokes go right over everyone’s heads cause they don’t get it 💀 or sometimes he says it at the wrong time because everyone is focused on the show but i swear he’s so funny
While it is similar to the main menu of the game its not the exact main menu. Also in the game Frank does leave a hateful letter to Bill. I think it was done intentionally by Frank because he knew it would get under Bill's skin and he didn't want to give Bill the satisfaction of him being right, but you can tell in the game Bill still loved him and I believed Frank did too.
It's clear that Bill is gay in the game because he literally states Frank was his partner (and also had a magazine of nude men lmao). In the game, the relationship between Bill and Frank obviously ends in a much more depressing way, but Bill doesn't actually die.
I know this has already been commented on but I feel like the more it’s said the better the chance that you guys will see it, bill and Frank and 100% in a relationship in the game. This has been confirmed by the game’s creator. Bill refers to frank as his partner multiple times in the game and in case that wasn’t enough because people will say partner can mean anything, Ellie finds the gay porn in Bills car in the game; that scene is almost word for word in the show and the game, which confirms that Bill is canonically gay in the games, with his partner Frank. The game is essentially what would’ve happened had Bill not given Frank paint and gas for the lawn mowers so he could fix up the place and allowed him to invite Joel and Tess over.
Bill I believe refers to Frank in the game as “my partner”, and … I’m this video Ellie find the porno magazine. That scene is identical to the game scene. So “my partner” plus BearSkin prono = they were lovers…
It makes sense that they’re more scared of people. People are unpredictable, especially desperate people. At least with infected you know what they want and how they’ll attack you.
The show gets better and better from here. I loved watching pewdiepie playing the games and now im watching you guys reacting to the adaptation. Question if you guys complete season 1 are you guys gonna consider playing the game👀
22:58 If I had a nickel for every time Brig miss big scenes by looking away for 1 sec , I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice. (The other one was from aot when he grab a snack i think it was season 4 episode 1-2)
In the game it is actually hinted that they were romantic partners, and i like how the show gives a positive spin on their ending. When it skips to the “3 years later” jump in the episode, i expected their relationship to go downhill from there (bc in the game Frank despised Bill in the end). I am glad the show gave them a happy ending.
In the game Bill shows Joel the worse path, and in the show he points him toward the better one. Same message, different (and more beautiful) delivery.
Even the creator of the game and the show said that Bill and Frank were obviously gay in the game, if you'd listen to their podcast. Some people are just looking for an excuse to be homophobic.
Bill and Frank were together but it was a toxic relationship and Frank wrote is his s*d note that getting infected and dying was "still better than spending another day with (Bill)". The scene where Ellie finds the gay magazine was the reveal in the game that whenever Bill referred to Frank as his "partner", it was a different kind of partner. The show scene was identical to the game.😅
The show has to create extra story in order to exist. If it just mimicked the game cutscenes it would be too short. It'd be a mini series. The only thing making the game so long is the constant fighting, and dying, and fighting; which doesn't translate for a TV adaption. Some people just not able to see certain things.
I think they haven't watched it because Briggs isn't with them yet. These AOT reactions are pre-recorded(they have finished the show) so Briggs is still in them.
+Studio Gek Bill and Frank were a gay couple in the game but you wouldn’t know that if you didn’t read all of the notes and pay attention to all of the details. They were having issues and got into a fight and Frank hung himself but you don’t know why or why they were fighting. The scene at the beginning of this episode where Ellie find the gay porno magazine in the truck is a shot for shot word for word recreation of the game. Also I recommend watching the directors and writers commentary on the behind the scenes footage from Episode 3 (the bill and Frank episode). You’d hear why the episode had an actual purpose in the story. Apparently and im just summing up what they said…the point of the last episode was basically a parallel of Frank and Bill with Joel and Tess as well as Joel and Ellie. Also it was pushing Joel to protect Ellie and see protecting her as his purpose now.
Here's how Kathleen came to lead them (you'll get a bit of this in the next episode): Their original leader, her brother, was killed. But her brother was a moral man, who fought with some chivalry. They all knew the only way to beat FEDRA was to become terrorists. But her brother AND they didn't want to do that. After he died, Kathleen's grief allowed her to gain their sympathy and step into a leadership role as they were freed to commit atrocities on _her behalf,_ because they loved her brother, which made her like a sister to them. And then it grew from there. Her rise to power came about because she was willing to take on the guilt and responsibility for the murder of women and children they took part in in order to overthrow FEDRA. She was the moral scapegoat. And the results of her merciless methods won their loyalty.
Hey guys! I'm loving your reactions!! I'll add my two cents re:ep 3. I ADORE the game but was totally cool with the Ep3 change. First, whoever told you Bill and Frank aren't together in the game was very obtuse -- Frank and Bill were DEFINITELY a romantic couple in the game... Frank left Bill because Bill was uncompromising and selfish. After he leaves, Frank ends up getting bit and hangs himself, leaving Bill a bitter, cruel suicide note to punish him. The change to the TV episode was much better than watching that tragedy play out, it would have been way too depressing and unrewarding. Just another sad episode among two previous sad episodes. AND the change benefits the overall story arc of Joel and Ellie imo. The Bill/Frank arc very closely resemble Joel/Ellie: the role of protector and how far you'll go for someone you love (a VERY important thread that runs through every episode of the game/show) Also, Ellie's impact on Joel closely mirrors Frank's on Bill: surviving isn't actually living, etc. Cheers! Can't wait for your reaction to the next episode!!! ❤
@@Thatscrazybro1l I said best " new " show. And yes it's not only best new show but one of the best shows of all time. Also what ? Chainsaw man is good but best show ? Bruh! It's not even top 3 Anime for 2022.
@@seezar100 Chainsaw man was literally breaking internet in each episode what are you talking about? And its only like 2% into the story the rest 98% would be in season 2 imagine that
Thanks, Jackson! Thanks, Cannon! Thanks, Carter! Thanks, McKay! Thanks, Brig! 🌇 Good stories comprise more than just plot... character development and world building are essential. Have some patience when storytellers develop all the elements. If you want more action, play the game again. 😉 #StudioGek #TheLastOfUs #TLOU #TheLastOfUsHBO
I like both, they serve a similar purpose but in different ways. In the game Joel realises from their relationship what his life is going to become if he keeps pushing people away, while in the show Joel kind of realises that he could be happy if he let's people in
Last episode was integral to advancing the plot for Joel's character. And help you understand him more. Previous episode was a great adaptation of the game material, just a good ending g instead of a bad one. At least you don't hate it for having gay people in it, so it's all good I guess.
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I think the point of episode 3 (Bill & Frank) is to prove Joel's statement at the beginning of episode 2 wrong. He says to Tess about Ellie: Stop talking about her as if she has some kind of life in front of her. Joel believes that all thats left in the world is suffering, and no one can have any kind of happy ending. Episode 3 proved this wrong, you can grow old with someone and have as close to a happy ending as possible. Ellie and Joel can have a future, a life, a friendship if thats what they choose for themselves.
It’s subtle but yes the last episode was a great way to set the stage for Joel opening up to Ellie.
exactly. If you missed the point of episode 3 then you weren't paying attention
We get that because we know the whole story. They havent played the game.
Also Bill and Frank were 100% partners in the game. Just Frank had already died by suicide. Bill was left alive, but they were still romantic partners
@@philipsparks6089 And to add onto this, it made Bill mad and cynical. Which, in the game, essentially shows Joel what he could be if he continues down this path and pushes him to be just the opposite. The show gives Joel a similar push, just in the positive. Be more like me rather than be the opposite of me. Same character development pushing Joel to open up a bit towards Ellie, just in a different way.
I love how Joel progresses from not wanting to hear Ellie's jokes at all to actually laughing along with her at them.
Brig is the best. His eternal search for snacks is the most relatable thing ever.
Haha I’m so glad there are people out there who get me 🥲❤️
He always makes me want to go out and get snacks lmao
Can't watch a show with friends without the schnackies
The point of episode 3 was to establish Joel’s purpose is now to protect Ellie like bill discovered his purpose to protect Frank. Love your reactions btw.
The people who said episode 3 doesn't advance the plot are those who only see things on the surface...
Tess's last words "save who you can save" is basically the theme of episode 3 and later on, is the main message of Bill's letter...it made Joel decide to continue on the journey.
@@UltimaTheSeraph exactly
@@UltimaTheSeraph exactly!! the people who say episodes like 3 or 8 are unnecessary and have nothing to do with the story they r just lying and it’s just not true. everything connects with everything. this show does such a great job at connecting things and quotes and frases, making them all have a purpose in the story and i loved that abt it
People who think Bill and Frank didn't have a relationship in the game are probably the same people who think Korra and Asami were just really good friends.
this comment is gold
Korra and Asami is way less obvious/less clear. Like I'm a bi woman and I want to think they were together but honestly in the end they might as well have been close friends.
@@jyjaeskz The creators wrote a blog post after the final episode aired saying their relationship was canon, but Nickelodeon wouldn't let them show it explicitly like they did with Aang and Katara in the previous series.
@@clausewitzianwar good to know
@@jyjaeskz i mean in one of the episode, korra is litteraly blushing when asami compliment her appereance... not even mako can make korra blushing like that lol
I love their little discussions, shows they actually read the comments and it's so nice hearing them talk about it
Others already commented about the meaning behind episode 3. With regards to the differences between the game though: the game uses Bill & Frank (who were in a relationship in both contexts) as a negative portrayal of love and human connection. Bill & Frank become estranged and bitter, Frank hangs himself, and Bill becomes deplorable to the point of earning the audience's pity and revulsion. In the game, Bill serves as a negative motivator, showcasing to Joel what he could DEVOLVE into if he continues on his current path of pushing people away from him. In the show, they decided to change things into a positive motivator via a positive portrayal of love and human connection. Bill & Frank have a long and happy life together, but tragically (or merrily?) die together, showcasing to Joel what he could EVOLVE into if he shifts away from his current path and begins to open up to other people. They discuss this in the HBO behind-the-scenes special for episode 3 where Neil Druckman (the director for the game) goes into these details and how he believes the show should only deviate from the game in scenarios where the resulting story comes out better than the story the game could tell (which is why he supported the changes).
The last episode is important for the development of Ellie and Joel's relationship, especially for Joel to change his perspective on life. you guys will realize this with the next eps
The letter from Bill is very important for the character development of Joel (and even Ellie) : You find someone and you protect him/her.
The episode also touch on the burden of grief that gets heavier and heavier. Recently Tess, now Bill & Frank...
@@Beaurisque exactly! it's kinda disappointing to see that not everyone realizes the importance of the episode
I'm sorry, but the people who said episode 3 doesn't advance the plot are those who only see things on the surface...
Tess's last words "save who you can save" is basically the theme of episode 3 and later on, is the main message of Bill's letter...it made Joel decide to continue on the journey. Motivation is something invisible but crucial...without motivation there is no advancement. That's how a rich storytelling should be...not just filled with technical stuff like "okay, so we go here do this and do that then we go there"... instead there should be 'why and how' in it.
How do you understand something if all you know is whether or not it works and not why and how it works?
Joel was already motivated to continue the journey to find his brother. I seriously doubt the letter made any difference on whether or not Joel would of kept going. I mean he traveled all the way to Bill and Franks specifically for a car for Christ sake.
@@nandoman4769 that's because it wasn't about finding motivation for his brother, it was about him finding someone to protect and care for. Completely missed the point there.
@@nandoman4769 as I said, only see the surface...there are subtle moments when you can see that he didn't have to take Ellie with him.
Ep 3: Joel walked out with the letter and took a moment with it... (If he only needs the truck, he wouldn't even care about the content).
Ep 3: he established with Ellie the rules for sticking with him after the letter scene...when he could've done that much earlier...this shows he made up his mind after the letter.
Ep 4:
Ellie: where would you be without me
Joel: right now, in Wyoming (he's aware that Ellie is a weight he must carry and made him at a disadvantage, yet he chose to carry her anyway).
Joel also started to warm up after the letter, you can see his interaction with her in the car about the song by Linda Ronstadt.
This all happened after the letter.
Yes, his mission is to find his brother, but he didn't have to take Ellie, because that means extra effort to protect...he could've just returned her to Boston after getting the truck then go to find Tommy.
You can argue that "well, they don't need to make the story that long and just showed the letter in the end" the story is to add the gravity of the letter. It enriches the content of the letter rather than just a note passed from one to another, it shows what happened behind it.
This comment wins
Episode 3 builds the themes of the show. Also the show is about love and “the last of us” not just Ellie and Joel
love this!
Bill and Frank were in a relationship in the game, Bill calls him his partner at one point and Bill still has the gay magazine
To explain the point of last episode a different way, it’s saying that living and dying for someone you love is better than surviving for nothing.
In the game, it was hinted that Bill and Frank were romantic partners, but they were too different for each other and they had a sad ending. I think the point of Bill, in the game, was to show Joel how he would end up if he kept pushing people away.
In the show they stay true to the differences between the two characters, but they gave them a happy ending instead of a sad one. Frank chose to stay with Bill in his hermit town and Bill allowed Frank to make some friends. In the end they made their own sacrifices and were happy with the life they lived. In the show, Bill teaches Joel that he has a purpose to keep going and to protect Ellie.
My guess, is they really wanted to keep Bill and Frank in the story because people really enjoyed Bills character (Frank was never in the game), but there wasn't enough substance or maybe they would've needed multiple episodes? I don't know. May be they wanted a happy story somewhere in the show and they were the perfect characters to do that with.
I like that the episode gives this show this sort of balance between emotional moments and action since the game is very action focused because you know, you need something interesting to play
You guys need to watch ep 5 asap it's maybe the best so far
[And from what I understand, Bill and Frank's relationship WAS canon, they just minimized it. Bill refers to frank as his "partner" and druckman has said 2013 was a different time and they didn't want to spotlight it]
"Some guy that you end up being super happy with ends up falling into your hole... your hole. " You guys are so wholesome that you ignore--or perhaps don't even notice--such Freudian slips and/or double entendre. It's sweet and unintentionally hilarious.
I think Kathleen having a soft voice is what makes her even more intriguing and intimidating, i mean how does someone who sounds so soft gets to be the top dog of a group like that? She gotta be some scary lady 😂
i mean her brother was the leader of the rebellion, so after her brother got jailed... she probably replace him
@@rafaelrose14 yeah, but Perry said that the brother didn't change anything, Kathleen did. So I'm assuming she's way more whiling to choose violence than her late brother 😂 I kinda wish she lived a little longer, seemed lika an interesting antagonist
@@nishamabel9607 I really disliked that line that her brother didn't change anything when in reality he did everything. he brought the people together and when he died that was the trigger for the people to act. many others died at the hands of FEDRA before him but it's his death that changed things. it's like saying MLK's death changed nothing. not recognizing that is what led to their downfall. they put their faith in someone that wasn't a leader
lol no it means she became leader by happenstance and later this turns out to be true. She didn't earn her position and she's about as intimidating as a paper bag.
Ooh, because of everything that happens next I forgot how this episode was wholesome ♡ Joel gradually warming to Ellie only makes me beamingly smile. the daughter/father-like chemistry between the actors, behind the scenes, is so adorable that they couldn’t have chosen any more perfect duo to portray these characters. Love them!
To answer y'all's questions about the 3rd episode, the point is to give Joel character progression. It becomes the start of Joel starting to care about and protect Ellie instead of thinking of her as just cargo. There will be a lot of characters who come and go but they all help the main characters journey and character arcs.
Something about the game version that goes misunderstood is how Bill and Frank didn’t hate each other, they were just too different. Frank’s suicide note is worded harshly, but that’s because he cared about Bill. When you meet Bill he tells you that he had a partner but they weighed him down and were too much risk, so he kicked them out. When you find Frank’s body is becomes clear that Frank chose to leave and Bill just isn’t taking that well - he’s in denial, similar to how Joel handled Tess’ death. In this franchise, more characters die than survive, and Bill was a rare example specifically because he was paranoid and alone. Love and attachment get people killed, but it’s worth it.
Ok here’s your cool little Easter eggs
- if you look closely at the gun that Sam is holding at the end, the cylinder is actually unloaded
- the guy who plays Kathleen’s like right hand man was the man who played Tommy in the game
There’s probably more that I forgot but that’s all I got off the top of my head
Eagerly awaiting the next one! Gek Bois best bois.
BRO I'M SO EXCITED FOR UR REACTION TO EP 5. And I'm glad y'all seem to enjoy Ellie a bit more!
Other people have said it, but episode 3 is the real turning point on Joel starting to build an actual relationship with Ellie since him and Bill had the same type of personalities (f the world). Without knowing what happened to Tess and that he had Ellie now, he was saying yeah the world is sh*t, but protect those that need it. Find a purpose. Also the bearded guy at 16:46 is the VA for Tommy in the game. Gets his head pulled off later.
Loved all of your reactions! I do have to add though that Bill and Frank definitely had a relationship in the game. It was off screen though as Frank is dead by the time you find him
Cannon saying "straw" as the response to that joke made me laugh so hard because what does that even mean 😭
so true i kept rewinding it in the hopes that it would suddenly make sense
*The significance of Bill's story in Ep3:* In the game, it's confirmed that Bill is gay (that same gay porn magazine scene is in the game) and that he and Frank were in a romantic relationship. But due to their different outlooks on life, Frank grew to resent Bill and tried to leave Bill's town before he got bit. Joel and Ellie essentially run around town looking for a car battery, but running around for supplies doesn't exactly contribute to the overall plot of the show in a meaningful way. Bill was essentially a bitter, lonely man, and he doesn't go through any sort of character arc.
Instead, the show expanded on Bill and Frank's relationship to show how Bill and Frank are parallels to Joel and Tess; Bill and Joel are the more stoic, pessimistic 'protectors' who see Frank/Tess as their 'protectees' who are more optimistic and friendly. This episode is a microcosm of the whole story- how a lone survivor had no other purpose to live until he connected to another human being and found a new purpose in protecting and loving them. Joel and Tess are alluded to being basically family, tho Tess likely wanted something more but respected that Joel didn't want to be too close to her bc of his trauma of losing Sarah. But Tess' death is a reminder to Joel that he's failed his purpose of being a protector for his family twice now, and by respecting Tess' last wish to protect Ellie until they reach the Fireflies, Joel is finding a new purpose in protecting someone again.
*Overall* : Bill in the game was a warning to Joel of how sad life would be without ppl to care for. But Bill in the show is the opposite and inspires Joel to not be like that, shifting Joel's perspective of Ellie in a way the show's audience can better understand through Bill's own character arc. Bill's letter impacts Joel, bc Joel knew that they were similar types of cynical survivors and that if Bill can change, he might too. Being a 'protector' of your family is a theme that's being emphasized 100x more in the show than in the game with every single side-character plotline. So the reason for Bill's flashback and letter is to culminate into the line "That's why men like you and me are here"- bc Bill's story speaks to Joel specifically bc he believes wholeheartedly. And now Joel feels responsible for protecting Ellie like family, not just cargo (tho he still lies to himself and Ellie that she's only 'cargo' bc he's still scared of getting too attached).
Fun fact: The bearded guy with the assault rifle named Perry is played by Jeffrey Pierce and he played Tommy in the game (voice and motion capturing).
Awesome reaction, guys.
In defence of the last episode "not advancing the plot" Bill and Frank are characters in game and there's things you have to do in the game with Bill so I think this was a good way to implement the two characters and give their backstories and it's certainly more cinematic than seeing Bill and Joel doing side quests like in the game.
if they simply broke their happy ending they could have had Frank go missing/kidnapped and have Joe and Ellie actually interact with Bill, this series is too short to add in stories that do not advance the plot
The people who said episode 3 doesn't advance the plot are those who only see things on the surface...
Tess's last words "save who you can save" is basically the theme of episode 3 and later on, is the main message of Bill's letter...it made Joel decide to continue on the journey. Motivation is something invisible but crucial...without motivation there is no advancement. That's how a rich storytelling should be...not just filled with technical stuff like okay, so we go here do this and do that then we go there... instead there should be 'why and how' in it.
@@UltimaTheSeraph you can argue it helped with Joel's motivation, but an entire episode based around side characters to achieve it? C'mon they could have and should have done better.
@@aurious5821 the could also cut the entire background story on Sam & Henry, Kathleen's group story and just started with Joel & Ellie, they also didn't have to include Left Behind episode....but that's not how a good storytelling on TV is. You missed the point.
@@UltimaTheSeraph people do argue that point and I would agree with them, it was done better in the games. Still one of the best adaptations I have seen though.
They were together in the game. That’s heavily implied. But in the game, Frank and Bill’s differences drove them apart, Frank decided to leave, but got bit and hung himself before he turned.
Ooohh
The point of episode 3 is to show that no one can make it in this world alone. Joel and Bill both try to a valid attachment and survive, but it’s just surviving not living. Bill learns to live because of Frank and his value of enjoying life while we’re here. Joel is scared to open up after Sarah and that’s why his relationship with Tess was never official. He needs to open up to Ellie to enjoy life and live instead of existing.
Bill & Frank were also lovers in the game, we just don't see it explored like it is in the show. The way I view Episode 3, is that it shows us an alternative timeline to what Bill could've had with Frank if he wasn't stubborn and was willing to open up to try and have a life that didn't have to only apply on Bill's terms. In the game, Bill and Frank never worked things out like they did in the show and it is the more dark and tragic scenario in their relationship (Bill still lives, but now has no companionship and lives with the torment that Frank hated him) versus the show where they have their long and happy life and die together
Ep 3 is not a filler episode!
Love all your videos !! cant wait for the next one
18:10 I feel so bad for Cannon 😭😭😂 poor guy
right like give bro a piece 😭
What about McKay?
Episode 3 means more when you come to understand what the show is really about. This is your first time experiencing this story, so if y'all stick with it all the way through, the ending will probably reframe everything including your perspective on certain sub-plots like episode 3. As everyone keeps saying, this is not a zombies story - its about humans, their experiences, and their relationships with one another when everything else is lost. I would do anything to experience this story for the first time again, but the closest I can get is seeing other people's reactions to watching it for the first time, and I'm really happy with how the show is presenting this story to a whole new audience. Love your content as always fellas keep doing you ❤️❤️
Joel wasn't going to take Ellie. He was just going to deliver her to Bill and Frank for them take. The events of this episode were the turning point for Joel to finally accept taking and protecting Ellie all the way to her goal. It was Bill's letter in particular that sealed the deal.
Im impressed that you guys are able to restrain urselves from binging this show i physically cant wait for every new episode
brigs love for snacks is easily one of my favorite parts of this channel
This comment made my day haha.
its a bit indirect but in the game bills purpose (along with being a plot device to get them a truck) is to show what joel could become if he pushed away the people around him because hes all alone and a bitter old man. In the show his purpose is to show that joel should live to protect the people in his life. Its a bit indirect and doesnt connect well until the overall story is connected. Thats one thing about both of the last of us games, certain story beats are kind've weird until you have the whole story put together.
There was also a mad fire line that was skipped. when the fake injured guy shows up joel in the game said: "he's not even hurt"
I noticed they havent posted the next episode yet, I hope they didn't drop the show :(
i literally kept coming back to their channel just to see if they posted a reaction video for ep 5 😂😭
Episode 3 is far from filler the whole world of the last of us is about character relationships and it pivotal in how Joel starts to view Ellie. Plus it’s just a stunningly well made piece of tv.
4:44 I hear you Cannon. I can confirm (actually google can confirm) that gasoline does break down over time. It only lasts a few months. About 3-6 months.
I can’t lie I’ve never seen a TH-cam channel off the bat be as successful as this one. Y’all made the right decision making a YT. I really like it keep up the good work!!
Stg
Also (sorry for comment spam), shouts to Connor for his editing skills. Not sure if he's still the one doing the edits and video uploads, but the little quirky cuts really add some flavour and personality to the uploads. Good shit.
How can people say that Bill wasn't gay in the games but that magazine scene was ripped straight out of the game?
Bill and Frank were in a relationship in the game, the difference between the two is in the game they ended on bad terms. In the show they got a happy ending
The leader of the group, Kathleen, isn't in the game. The two at the end met with Joel and Ellie in a different way. Keep them coming guys.💯
22:18 Sometimes I wish Jackson would speak up more instead of mumbling to himself (no offense intended) because that was a really good catch. I didn't even notice that my first watch. I only realized that after hearing Neil or Craig mention it in their podcast. Also props to Cannon for making the others aware that he caught that. Typical W for Cannon.
Yes, it's true about Gas. It has an expiration date
In the game it is implied that Bill and Frank were in a relationship and had a falling out. Frank left and when he did he got infected and instead of waiting to turn he chose the alternative.
Ep 3 is character development for Joel, THROUGH other characters. If we're not shown Bill & Frank's relationship we might not get the importance/value of having someone to fight for in this bleak world.
I love Brig lmao
I love you
@@brigandrus AH NO WAY U REPLIED AHAH
It's implied they were in a relationship for a while but the deviation is that Frank got Bill to open his heart to actually living instead of just surviving in the show (as seen in the scene where they were arguing about fixing up the shops in the town with paint and stuff) but in the game Frank never got Bill to open his heart so they ended up clashing and Frank hated that Bill never got that in their situation it was ok to open up and live... So basically two different story lines, one where Bill is too stubborn and never actually lives (and all the negative outcomes that brings) and one where Frank did manage to get through to Bill and they live happily ever after lol
Bill and Frank were in a relationship in the game. There was some sort of falling out before Joel and Ellie show up. They eventually find the letter and then Frank's hanging body. Bill is visibly shaken, voice wavering and refers to Frank as his partner. It's pretty clear based on everything that happens and is discussed up to that point who they are in relation to one another. For the show, it also makes Frank storming out of the house during that argument before they reveal the year a bit of a fake out, at least for me, because it made as if we were going to see the argument that leads to the following events in the game, but then does a whole 180.
i swear 99% of brigg’s jokes go right over everyone’s heads cause they don’t get it 💀 or sometimes he says it at the wrong time because everyone is focused on the show but i swear he’s so funny
While it is similar to the main menu of the game its not the exact main menu. Also in the game Frank does leave a hateful letter to Bill. I think it was done intentionally by Frank because he knew it would get under Bill's skin and he didn't want to give Bill the satisfaction of him being right, but you can tell in the game Bill still loved him and I believed Frank did too.
Wait that RDC reference is all the validation I need ngl 3:45
It's clear that Bill is gay in the game because he literally states Frank was his partner (and also had a magazine of nude men lmao). In the game, the relationship between Bill and Frank obviously ends in a much more depressing way, but Bill doesn't actually die.
Yeah and it's crazy to me that people who played the game said they made him gay as if he wasn't in the game 😭
I know this has already been commented on but I feel like the more it’s said the better the chance that you guys will see it, bill and Frank and 100% in a relationship in the game. This has been confirmed by the game’s creator.
Bill refers to frank as his partner multiple times in the game and in case that wasn’t enough because people will say partner can mean anything, Ellie finds the gay porn in Bills car in the game; that scene is almost word for word in the show and the game, which confirms that Bill is canonically gay in the games, with his partner Frank.
The game is essentially what would’ve happened had Bill not given Frank paint and gas for the lawn mowers so he could fix up the place and allowed him to invite Joel and Tess over.
fun fact: the guy who plays the long haired dude with the big beard is the guy who voiced tommy in the game.
You all need to catch up ! Love your reactions tho!
Fun fact the actress who played Katherine that actress also played the character of Rose in the series Two And A Half Men starring Charlie Sheen ❤
18:05 Bruh 😭
Bill I believe refers to Frank in the game as “my partner”, and … I’m this video Ellie find the porno magazine. That scene is identical to the game scene. So “my partner” plus BearSkin prono = they were lovers…
It makes sense that they’re more scared of people. People are unpredictable, especially desperate people. At least with infected you know what they want and how they’ll attack you.
The show gets better and better from here. I loved watching pewdiepie playing the games and now im watching you guys reacting to the adaptation.
Question if you guys complete season 1 are you guys gonna consider playing the game👀
22:58 If I had a nickel for every time Brig miss big scenes by looking away for 1 sec , I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
(The other one was from aot when he grab a snack i think it was season 4 episode 1-2)
hahaha okay Dr. Doofenshmirtz. elite reference 😂
In the game it is actually hinted that they were romantic partners, and i like how the show gives a positive spin on their ending. When it skips to the “3 years later” jump in the episode, i expected their relationship to go downhill from there (bc in the game Frank despised Bill in the end). I am glad the show gave them a happy ending.
poor cannon didn't get any snacks
I'd like to think Joel didn't catch sam and henry was because he was so sleep deprived from the previous night so he was basically in a coma
In the game Bill shows Joel the worse path, and in the show he points him toward the better one. Same message, different (and more beautiful) delivery.
Brig is hungry!!!! Lol!
there are things in life youll never escape death taxes and brig snackling lmao
😂😂😂😂
Even the creator of the game and the show said that Bill and Frank were obviously gay in the game, if you'd listen to their podcast. Some people are just looking for an excuse to be homophobic.
5:32 - ANOTHER Crack in the shell! Yes lol
bill and frank were in a relationship in the game, but frank leaves over frustration after the discussion we see in the show.
Bill and Frank were together but it was a toxic relationship and Frank wrote is his s*d note that getting infected and dying was "still better than spending another day with (Bill)". The scene where Ellie finds the gay magazine was the reveal in the game that whenever Bill referred to Frank as his "partner", it was a different kind of partner. The show scene was identical to the game.😅
ABOUT FUDGING TIME!!!🤦♂️🙌
The guy who's the second in command is the guy that voices Tommy
Episode 3 was a filler? Really?! 🙄
The show has to create extra story in order to exist. If it just mimicked the game cutscenes it would be too short. It'd be a mini series. The only thing making the game so long is the constant fighting, and dying, and fighting; which doesn't translate for a TV adaption.
Some people just not able to see certain things.
Yall should watch the next episode 5 it was INSANE best one of the show.
I think they haven't watched it because Briggs isn't with them yet.
These AOT reactions are pre-recorded(they have finished the show) so Briggs is still in them.
@@nik_-wu7ot I hope so honestly i was really looking for their reaction
love how yall are starting to warm up to ellie :)
+Studio Gek Bill and Frank were a gay couple in the game but you wouldn’t know that if you didn’t read all of the notes and pay attention to all of the details. They were having issues and got into a fight and Frank hung himself but you don’t know why or why they were fighting.
The scene at the beginning of this episode where Ellie find the gay porno magazine in the truck is a shot for shot word for word recreation of the game.
Also I recommend watching the directors and writers commentary on the behind the scenes footage from Episode 3 (the bill and Frank episode). You’d hear why the episode had an actual purpose in the story. Apparently and im just summing up what they said…the point of the last episode was basically a parallel of Frank and Bill with Joel and Tess as well as Joel and Ellie. Also it was pushing Joel to protect Ellie and see protecting her as his purpose now.
Bill and frank were partners in the game, bill refers to Frank as his “partner” when they find him dead.
Next episode is poggers
@18:04-18:10 LMAO mood though
From this episode on,the show doesn’t miss!!!!
Here's how Kathleen came to lead them (you'll get a bit of this in the next episode): Their original leader, her brother, was killed. But her brother was a moral man, who fought with some chivalry. They all knew the only way to beat FEDRA was to become terrorists. But her brother AND they didn't want to do that. After he died, Kathleen's grief allowed her to gain their sympathy and step into a leadership role as they were freed to commit atrocities on _her behalf,_ because they loved her brother, which made her like a sister to them. And then it grew from there. Her rise to power came about because she was willing to take on the guilt and responsibility for the murder of women and children they took part in in order to overthrow FEDRA. She was the moral scapegoat. And the results of her merciless methods won their loyalty.
Yall are gonna freak when yall see episode 5 lmao
Hey guys! I'm loving your reactions!! I'll add my two cents re:ep 3. I ADORE the game but was totally cool with the Ep3 change. First, whoever told you Bill and Frank aren't together in the game was very obtuse -- Frank and Bill were DEFINITELY a romantic couple in the game... Frank left Bill because Bill was uncompromising and selfish. After he leaves, Frank ends up getting bit and hangs himself, leaving Bill a bitter, cruel suicide note to punish him. The change to the TV episode was much better than watching that tragedy play out, it would have been way too depressing and unrewarding. Just another sad episode among two previous sad episodes. AND the change benefits the overall story arc of Joel and Ellie imo. The Bill/Frank arc very closely resemble Joel/Ellie: the role of protector and how far you'll go for someone you love (a VERY important thread that runs through every episode of the game/show)
Also, Ellie's impact on Joel closely mirrors Frank's on Bill: surviving isn't actually living, etc.
Cheers! Can't wait for your reaction to the next episode!!! ❤
Have you guys seen Arcane ? If you haven't you definitely should react to it, it's the best new show of 2022.
They said they've seen it and loved it
@@jyjaeskz Damn it XD. So we won't be getting a reaction then
Best show of 2022? That would be chainsaw man. The best adaptation of 2022 is for sure arcane no doubt
@@Thatscrazybro1l I said best " new " show. And yes it's not only best new show but one of the best shows of all time.
Also what ? Chainsaw man is good but best show ? Bruh! It's not even top 3 Anime for 2022.
@@seezar100 Chainsaw man was literally breaking internet in each episode what are you talking about? And its only like 2% into the story the rest 98% would be in season 2 imagine that
That 3rd episode of The last of us helped me win trivia night hehe
Thanks, Jackson! Thanks, Cannon! Thanks, Carter! Thanks, McKay! Thanks, Brig! 🌇 Good stories comprise more than just plot... character development and world building are essential. Have some patience when storytellers develop all the elements. If you want more action, play the game again. 😉 #StudioGek #TheLastOfUs #TLOU #TheLastOfUsHBO
The guy playing Perry is actually he voice actor that played tommy in the game
11 days ago... 🫤
Frank and Bill was in a relationship but it was a very different outcome and ended badly. I prefer the series take on it better
I like both, they serve a similar purpose but in different ways. In the game Joel realises from their relationship what his life is going to become if he keeps pushing people away, while in the show Joel kind of realises that he could be happy if he let's people in
In the game Joel says he ain’t even hurt and proceeds to run him over then the truck gets hit by a bus one of Joel’s most bad ass scene
You guys skipped the outro song .... They dropped one of the best game songs there and you skipped it!
Last episode was integral to advancing the plot for Joel's character. And help you understand him more. Previous episode was a great adaptation of the game material, just a good ending g instead of a bad one.
At least you don't hate it for having gay people in it, so it's all good I guess.
I fucking love brig man