The Last of Us has the craziest ending in television history | Episode 8-9 REACTION

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  • @JoanRaba21
    @JoanRaba21 ปีที่แล้ว +748

    "And you know what I see when I look at you?"
    Brig: "DINNER"
    That got me

  • @infingirl8488
    @infingirl8488 ปีที่แล้ว +636

    I once heard that the game developers polled a group of people to see if they thought what Joel did was right or wrong at the end. A lot of them were pretty half and half, but all the people that they polled who were parents, they all agreed that he did the right thing saving his baby girl over the world. It really puts into perspective the love of a parent for their child and the lengths they would go to for them.

    • @lalalalisa41
      @lalalalisa41 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Unconditional love can both be selfish and selfless

    • @1999_reborn
      @1999_reborn ปีที่แล้ว +29

      They should ask the parents the question in reverse as well. What if your child had been bitten but if they do the surgery on ellie they can save your child before they turn.

    • @skywalker6648
      @skywalker6648 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Except you don't have to be a parent to side with Joel at all. So, I highly doubt the validity of the poll you cited with no references for, btw.

    • @nomemeshere4807
      @nomemeshere4807 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@skywalker6648 Expecting sources with a youtube comment L debate bro

    • @skywalker6648
      @skywalker6648 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nomemeshere4807 Bro, you do if you want to prove your point and most do when it comes to some "poll". But occasionally, you get knucklehead comments that some others like without even considering there are no actual sources cited. Guess commonsense isn't so common, lol.

  • @humanintelegence
    @humanintelegence ปีที่แล้ว +662

    a thing that i find scary about David - he was a teacher before the apocalypse...

    • @judeless77
      @judeless77 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was also a murderer

    • @guilbertsangel
      @guilbertsangel ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@judeless77 the person talked about before the apocalypse

    • @iamai_iggs
      @iamai_iggs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@judeless77 the implication was that David had "access" to girls Ellie's age before the apocalypse and considering his pedophile, well...

    • @aClownBaby-
      @aClownBaby- ปีที่แล้ว

      Classic

    • @lalalalisa41
      @lalalalisa41 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      And how he said he had a violent heart and always struggled with it...

  • @JustJoe24
    @JustJoe24 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    Joel saying "I got you, Baby Girl" to Ellie BROKE ME. It was delivered so good. My heart.

    • @chaoticaroace4680
      @chaoticaroace4680 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s the part that made me scream cry

  • @Josh_JKL
    @Josh_JKL ปีที่แล้ว +220

    Joel clearly wasn't thinking straight at the end, the fireflies treated him like crap after HE got Ellie there for them and then they didn't give Ellie a choice either. My man snapped and rightfully so. Lying to Ellie was the wrong decision though

    • @skywalker6648
      @skywalker6648 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She was not ready to hear the truth as evident by how easily she believed him and last thing he would want to do was upset her or cause her to leave him.

    • @Josh_JKL
      @Josh_JKL ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@skywalker6648 I get the immediate lie (although his excuse was terrible), but when she flat out asked him I think he should have been at least somewhat more honest.
      I feel like her tone at the end of the game and show when she said "ok". She seemed pretty dejected and obvious that she didn't really believe him.

    • @arthurhaag9434
      @arthurhaag9434 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Joel telling the truth or asking her opinion would never be an option. It is pretty clear that Ellie would want to sacrifice herself for humanity, and Joel can't accept that. It was either letting her die, or taking her and lying.

    • @riftplut0474
      @riftplut0474 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Josh_JKLshe didn’t believe him but accepted it anyway until they made part 2

    • @SohiHien
      @SohiHien 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@riftplut0474 she accepted it in that moment because she couldn't handle anything else but she knows he is lying about something. Clearly as she grows and recovers she would question it again. Anyone would, especially when Ellie was so deadset on helping make the cure. She would eventually ask for more information from Joel about what really happened.

  • @cat-napsss
    @cat-napsss ปีที่แล้ว +149

    The acting in these last two episodes in particular are FUCKING PHENOMENAL

  • @Christopher_TG
    @Christopher_TG ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Also, fun fact for you guys: the actor who played James, the right-hand man to David that Ellie killed by stabbing him in the neck, was Troy Baker, the original voice actor for Joel in the games. And the actress that played Anna, Ellie's mom, is Ashley Johnson, the original voice actor for Ellie in the games.

    • @diontyler00
      @diontyler00 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      And the woman that plays Marlene, plays Marlene in the game

  • @b0by1
    @b0by1 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    I loved the discussion wanted to add one more thing. There was no guarantee that ellie's sacrifice would have actually made the cure. In my mind its a very real possibility that the doctor could have failed to make the cure since that was just their hypothesis.

    • @brittanylewandowski6200
      @brittanylewandowski6200 ปีที่แล้ว

      PLus, he was technically only a medical student. Even still, he was a Doctor, doctors don't make vaccines. he had no qualifications to make a vaccine.

    • @vladimirvanvhorno357
      @vladimirvanvhorno357 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Yes, I agree. And as a GP myself, I really think that there are so many medical procedures that can be done in this situation. Why don't the Fireflies make a truce with the government who may have a better medical team and equipments to perform the medical procedures. At least keep Ellie alive until she can give birth to a child and see if the immunity can be passed down genetically to the next generation. And learn from that process. Don't just jump hastily with such a low possibility of success and kill the only immune person in this whole world... And even if they magically can get a cure from the operation, I think The Fireflies will use it as a power to win people and bring down FEDRA just like Catherine's group did. Or even worse, imagine if the cure was given to people such as David... It will make the whole world much worse than hell...

    • @brittanylewandowski6200
      @brittanylewandowski6200 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vladimirvanvhorno357 Well 1. They don't have a Government anymore. Thats what the Fireflies are trying to bring back and 2. The only way for Ellie to have a baby is if they make some one rape her. Ellie is gay. PLus a cure wouldn't do anything, you can't cure a clicker, or a runner ect.

    • @Novafan
      @Novafan ปีที่แล้ว +24

      yeah thats my whole thought process behind siding with joel. not only was ellies consent not given, the doctor was rushing immediately into taking out humanities most important asset.

    • @Vendrix86
      @Vendrix86 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vladimirvanvhorno357 the government has become a fascist dictatorship, a truce is impossible. You are assuming they'll have better facilities and medical teams than the Fireflies, not necessarily. I do agree that the Fireflies would use it as leverage and not necessarily for the benefit of mankind but probably better in their hands than the govt that exists. Separate groups like Tommy's community finding the cure would be ideal.
      I don't blame them for wanting to find a cure asap, you're not gonna wait around for this disease to kill off everyone though I agree you'd wanna preserve an immune person as much as possible. Although you can technically create many immune people by having pregnant women get infected right before birth but that's obviously not ideal.
      Discussion of which people to give it to is dangerous and relates back to the Fireflies using the cure for power. Who gets to decide who gets a cure? Everyone should get one, period.

  • @popeye2826
    @popeye2826 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Small detail a lot of people miss in ep 8 is that the “venison” wasn’t only human meat by also the little girls father that Joel killed previously. The one that they were going to bury in spring

    • @cannonandrus5554
      @cannonandrus5554 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wow

    • @caioqueiroz9750
      @caioqueiroz9750 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      how is it even possible that people watching (and paying attention) not get it? wtf? it is absolutely obvious.
      People always surprise me...

    • @Nomadic813
      @Nomadic813 ปีที่แล้ว

      ??? There's no evidence to support that is there? They are shown to have multiple bodies hung up like meat.

  • @TukaihaHithlec
    @TukaihaHithlec ปีที่แล้ว +93

    I know this wasn’t the most popular show on your channel, but I’m glad to see you finished it.
    In terms of asking what Ellie wanted to do, no one asked her because they both knew she would have done it. Whether or not it would have worked, Joel did what he did believing it would.
    In case no one else has pointed it out, Ellie’s mother was played by the original Ellie actress, David’s second in command was played by Joel’s, and Marlene and Kari the nurse were reprised by their original actresses.
    It was a pleasure seeing your reactions!

  • @jholmes553
    @jholmes553 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    @20:45, this actually happened - Uruguayan Air Force Flight 571. They were stuck in the snowy Andes mountains and no one knew where they were. The chance of rescue was slim and getting slimmer every day. After (I think) the first week, they knew that rescue isn't on the table anymore, the mindset from the outside world had shifted to retrieval. They realized if they have to survive, they had to do something drastic. In a 40-passenger vessel, 16 people survived and they endured 72 days in that snowy mountain with nothing to eat except their dead. They were rescued because two of the survivors (initially three but one got injured and returned to their camp) trekked down the mountain and found help for the rest of them.

    • @alterego1121
      @alterego1121 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I need them to react to the netflix adaptation of this event

  • @LuvStarburst
    @LuvStarburst ปีที่แล้ว +311

    Carter is forever going down as the one person who didn't think the dude was sus.

    • @StudioGek
      @StudioGek  ปีที่แล้ว +57

      😂😂💀

    • @cannonandrus5554
      @cannonandrus5554 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      😂😂😂

    • @TheJerbol
      @TheJerbol ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I didn't at first, he was super reasonable up until he reveals that he knew she was with Joel all along

    • @masamune2984
      @masamune2984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheJerbol 😬

    • @jholmes553
      @jholmes553 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In the game, it is not as obvious that David is a monster which makes it feel more of a betrayal when you discover he can't be trusted.

  • @ZS-dr7bi
    @ZS-dr7bi ปีที่แล้ว +411

    I legit thought you guys had forgotten about this show 😅

    • @Huge_XG-Xpop_Stan
      @Huge_XG-Xpop_Stan ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Deadass! I wasn’t letting that happen😭I was reminding them every vid.

    • @ZS-dr7bi
      @ZS-dr7bi ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Huge_XG-Xpop_Stan a real bro

    • @gailseatonhumbert
      @gailseatonhumbert ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too

    • @supersucks
      @supersucks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was surprised when i saw it

  • @Letssee92
    @Letssee92 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The fireflies and Marlene didn’t give Ellie the choice because it didn’t matter, they weren’t going to let her leave if she decided she didn’t want to have the surgery they would have forced it.

    • @WarNeverChanges9191
      @WarNeverChanges9191 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Spoiler ahead!!!
      If you play second game then you will see Marlene tries to talk the doctor out of doing the surgery she said that Ellie deserves a choice. Marlene wasn't really the leader of the whole fireflies :) she was just the leader of the fireflies for Boston QZ and she fucked that up so fireflies won't really listen to her :). So I am pretty sure if Joel said lets wake Ellie up and ask her :) I am pretty sure she would let Ellie decide because she is the daughter of her best friend Anna.

    • @Letssee92
      @Letssee92 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@WarNeverChanges9191 right but as you said she wasn’t really the leader they wouldn’t listen to her and they would of forced Ellie to have the surgery

    • @vault29a
      @vault29a ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Letssee92 i mean even if ellie agreed joel would "save" her anyway.

    • @Letssee92
      @Letssee92 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vault29a see I don’t think so if they let him talk to her and she understood and they had closure I think he would have been extremely sad maybe even call it quits and off himself but I don’t think it would have ended like this.

    • @Letssee92
      @Letssee92 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vault29a it was the “we didn’t tell her we didn’t cause her any pain” if you had a family member who was having surgery that could kill them but could live without the surgery wouldn’t you want them to have the option and if they wanted that surgery wouldn’t you then be sad but okay because they made that decision?

  • @senbujohns4489
    @senbujohns4489 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    10 years ago, almost to the day I started playing this game, still probably one of my favorite. I'm glad they did the adaptation justice.

  • @randomfangirl2503
    @randomfangirl2503 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    there are so many reasons why the fireflies were ididotic in trying to kill Ellie and the idea that they could hope for a cure was unrealistic. I saw a comment once that explained it very well and I saved it and it went like this:
    " His personal feelings for Ellie aside, Joel was absolutely in the right to stop the surgery. There is so much wrong with the way the fireflies handled Ellie both medically and ethically.
    From a medical standpoint they went straight for terminal neurosurgery after having her in a lab for like, a day? No additional long term tests run? No long term bloodwork? Stress tests to see how her body handles the theoretically symbiotic fungi? Long term tests or observations to see how her body may change over time having this fungus? That's not even counting the fact that she’s the only known carrier of this immunity-granting fungus, so if anything goes wrong with the extraction of the fungus from ellie that's it. No time to try to find another solution, just head to life ending surgery immediately.
    The development of this vaccine would have been groundbreaking even in the modern world pre-cordyceps, yet they give it a fraction of the time and consideration, and with a sliver of the research and development resources that would have been available before the outbreak. It was a long shot even under the best of circumstances.
    Also there is the consideration that the story of The Last of Us occurs roughly 20 years after outbreak day, and the attending surgeon for Ellie’s surgery looks to be in his 40’s, if we’re being generous, which would likely have made him around 20-25 around the outbreak. This would have put him as being a med student or resident at best once the world ended, not a neurosurgeon with years of experience. How qualified is this guy really to even perform this surgery in the first place? Or even recommend that performing a terminal surgery is the only way to extract those cells from Ellie? Or guarantee they’d be able to take those cells and successfully reproduce them in a lab with minimal staff and resources as well as the lack of ability to even sterilize environments properly because it is the POST APOCALYPSE. Do they have all the relevant specialists to develop this treatment? One neurosurgeon is not going to be able to accurately and safely perform this literal MIRACLE on his own, not without a massive amount of help and resources that the Fireflies almost certainly do not have access to.
    Then even assuming that the cure was somehow made and worked perfectly, how do you have anywhere near the logistics possible to produce a vaccine/treatment on a mass scale and distribute it to quote “everyone”? That's all the materials required to safely store, transport, and administer this vaccine to all the people in all different geographic situations in at the very least, the continental US. This would be impossible unless the world had returned to some state industrialization, which it is clear by the end of The Last of Us that it has not. This would all even be assuming the treatment interacts with all people properly and is always administered correctly. AND assuming that the cordyceps doesn’t adapt and overcome the treatment once it has been used in a massive population. That's way too many assumptions and “if’s” to be able to justify choosing to immediately end Ellie’s life.
    And THEN there's the complete lack of moral/ethical considerations. Not only was Ellie never offered the chance to give informed consent to this life ending procedure, and was purposefully kept unconscious the whole time, even if she was awake and fully lucid she’s likely not even able to give informed consent at the time. Not only is she a minor, but at the time in the story she’s clearly displaying strong symptoms of PTSD, possibly depression, potentially has survivor’s guilt, and she could be prone to making reckless, self-distructive, or even suicidal decisions because of it. Even if Ellie said “yes, please kill me with this surgery for the vaccine” there’s no way to guarantee she is capable of fully coming to that conclusion in a completely informed and rational way on her own. Not to mention the fact that the fireflies would have been pressuring the hell out of her to go through with it. And if Ellie said no, they almost certainly would have forced her to go through with it anyway. Like Marline had even said, the fireflies made it seem as though there was no other choice, when there absolutely was.
    Joel was absolutely right to step in and stop an incompetent group of wannabe saviors from rushing to recklessly and needlessly kill Ellie. "
    then i would also like to add that they kept talking about a vaccine and let me tell ya vaccines are only effective against viruses. Viruses and fungi behave compleatly differently and vaccines are only for viruses. for fungal infections you would need anti-fungal medicine depending of what fungus is causing the infection. but vaccines are not an affective agent against fungi. so the fact that marline, who has had a bunch of conversations with the dude who claims to be a doctor about how to make this, kept using the term vaccine shows that the doctor didnt know what he was talking about considering he never corrected her on that.
    alos fun fact there is another kind of cordyceps (not the zombie one) that is acctually used in todays world as an anti fungal medicine for some infections.
    but anyway, to anyone that acctually read this, have a wonderful day and i wish you the best :)

    • @Baker_Lyn
      @Baker_Lyn ปีที่แล้ว

      Additionally, assuming they were able to develop a vaccine/anti fungal, what is the likelihood the Fireflies would actually give it to everyone for free. More likely, they would only provide it to those who agreed with their beliefs/methods or in exchange for something they wanted.
      Furthermore, resent history has proven that not everyone would trust the safety/validity of the vaccine, so it would not be able to “save the world”.

    • @timber007
      @timber007 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bro that's crazy, it makes so much sense. But anyway lying to Ellie just doesn't feel right, even though it seems there's no other way. Actually there could be a way if Joel just read your comment to Ellie justifying his actions, but she wouldn't accept it anyway

    • @randomfangirl2503
      @randomfangirl2503 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @timber007 Yeah, I agree that lying to her was very shitty of him.

  • @elliesnewdina
    @elliesnewdina ปีที่แล้ว +38

    interesting facts, the guy next to david that ellie stabbed with the butcher knife while she was laying on the table played and voiced joel in the game, and the woman who birthed ellie played and voiced ellie in the game!

  • @alcredo1813
    @alcredo1813 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    The choice is simple for Joel. He lost a daughter, he blames himself for it and Ellie is his only reason for living. He will protect her with his life

    • @vault29a
      @vault29a ปีที่แล้ว

      pretty selfish if you ask me.

    • @tmm4195
      @tmm4195 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@vault29aIt is, but it’s also very human. It doesn’t help that the fireflies were morons that handled the situation poorly

  • @misscali4nia.
    @misscali4nia. ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Even if they let Ellie make the decision, she’s just a child. She’s not mature enough to understand the magnitude of that type of decision.

    • @Hhshsjhjk
      @Hhshsjhjk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s kinda dumb. Even in middle school I knew the value of life. She’s middle school or older. The decision is hers. Sure society now days makes it so children don’t count as people capable of making their own decisions but in society’s like this children would have to make their own decisions and mature faster. She’s already lost most people she cared about. She understands the magnitude of it. Wanting to protect children is completely reasonable. Joel’s decision isn’t necessarily wrong. But he’s not her family and he’s not her owner. Even as a child if she decided to walk away from him he would have no right to stop her in this world. Even 8 yo in this world have to manage by themselves. They shouldn’t have to, but they do.

  • @mehlev
    @mehlev ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I am one from the "TLOU2 is a masterpiece" camp -- I adored it. It has one of the most mature, intelligent and interesting stories I've ever seen play out in a video game and, if the showrunners do it right, has the potential to be one of the best seasons of television we've ever seen. 🥳
    Great reaction, thanks for the journey!! 🎉

    • @hermionesings
      @hermionesings 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same. I hope it tops S1

  • @ATSaale
    @ATSaale ปีที่แล้ว +51

    21:00 that actually happened with a rugby team, they ended up eating people that died in the plane crash while they were stranded in the mountains

    • @jakemuller8626
      @jakemuller8626 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yep, it was in 1972, an Uruguayan airplane with a rugby team in Cordillera De Los Andes, the rugby team name was "Old Christians", not translated. There's a famous movie about it called "Alive" and it's a good movie afaik.

    • @AL-fl4jk
      @AL-fl4jk ปีที่แล้ว

      I learned that as a kid and had nightmares about it for months

    • @judeless77
      @judeless77 ปีที่แล้ว

      The plane sat there for a very long time but was eventually moved to a museum.

    • @hectorsumaoang2320
      @hectorsumaoang2320 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      so yellow jackets was inspired by that?

    • @ATSaale
      @ATSaale ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jakemuller8626 couldn't remember the name, but I recall seeing the movie as a child on TV

  • @Neco3376
    @Neco3376 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    41:34 Exactly, Joel wakes up and they just tell him she's gonna die, nothing about potential testing they could do or did, just straight up "yeah she needs to die for this", no choice, no discussion. Also how sure are we that the surgeons are competent enough to do this? There haven't been any hospitals or medical schools for YEARS so what are the odds they have a doctor who could do this? Sure there's an argument to make towards the "Any chance at all would be worth it so save humanity" argument, but from Joel's point of view it's losing his "daughter" again for a humanity that is anything but worthy: raiders, rapists, cannibals, greedy selfish people, that's not worth it to him, especially with no guarantee that it would work.
    Also.... what if cordyceps mutates again?

  • @funsizereacts
    @funsizereacts ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Cool Fact: The woman who gave birth to Ellie is the actual voice actress for Ellie in the game, Ashley Johnson. The HBO series had many other voice actor cameos too. Such a talented cast for the game and the show.

  • @lukmanibrahim2993
    @lukmanibrahim2993 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    At 15:00 - 15:15, Bella Ramsey's role as Ellie when she kills David is *SAVAGE 🥵 !* And she really deserves to get the best acting award 🎉 ! Even that moment was a little different from the game 😅

  • @jimmiejam508
    @jimmiejam508 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i love love loveee your discussion on these episodes, especially brig’s perspective. it’s a tough call!

  • @deron2203
    @deron2203 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Glad you guys are finishing this series! Can't wait to see which show you're gonna start next :)

  • @maggie4028
    @maggie4028 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is one of my all time favorite shows and game so it was so fun to see your guys's reactions to it! Also, being originally from Utah it was fun that you guys had almost the exact same reaction I did to seeing SLC 😂

  • @Mangolite
    @Mangolite ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Steak is a thick cut of animal meat, including cattle, bison/buffalo, pig/swine/hog, deer, lambs, sheep, goat, horse, camel, kangaroo, chicken/turkey (birds-ostrich), and fish. Even some vegetables such as grilled portobello mushroom, may be called mushroom steak. In comparison, venison used to be attributed to most game animals but has been primarily used for deer meat. For some meats, such as pork, lamb and mutton, chevon, and veal, these cuts are often referred to as chops.

  • @mirtieraczo5842
    @mirtieraczo5842 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Somebody did a poll asking parents what they would do in Joel's place and 100% of them said they would've done the same thing. And if Marlene and Joel had waited for Ellie to wake up and asked her what she wanted to do, I believe that she would have said yes to the surgery. And, Marlene may have kept her promise to Ellie's mom to watch over her, but it doesn't appear that she had any kind interaction with her or formed any kind of bond.. She didn't see Ellie as her child so she was willing to sacrifice her for the possibility of a cure. But if Anna had survived there's no way she would have let Marlene or anyone else use Ellie if it meant she would have to give up her life.

  • @jacquelinelaface136
    @jacquelinelaface136 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Ellie has never had a parent figure before and the first one she ever had lied to her in the biggest way possible. If/when she finds out that betrayal will be heartbreaking. Joel even said back in episode six the Ellie deserved a choice (about who to travel with) and both Marlene and Joel took away her choice in episode 9.
    "Be careful who you put your faith in. The only people who can betray us are the ones we trust" Maria - episode 6

    • @robsdianten1
      @robsdianten1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      But Joel didn't have either the opportunity to wake up Ellie and tell her options. Did he?

    • @ethanahmu6149
      @ethanahmu6149 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      To be fair I think you’re putting too much blame on Joel. Even if the cure would have worked (which I doubt it would have since the first 2 episodes flashbacks reiterate there is no cure for this infection) it doesn’t matter because it’s never okay to kill children. Even if Ellie consented, she’s a 14 year old who went through the most traumatic thing a person could go through. She’s not in the right mindset to decide if she should live or die.
      Marlene could have easily waited until Ellie was older, or even waited for Ellie and Joel to talk about the procedure, but she didn’t. She didn’t because she knew there was a possibility Ellie would choose to live. She knew that what she was doing was morally reprehensible.
      All in all what I’m trying to say is that Joel didn’t take away her choice - he gave her the opportunity to make choices by saving her from someone who WAS going to take away her choice.

    • @ethanahmu6149
      @ethanahmu6149 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@robsdianten1I agree. What was he going to do, hold a gun to the army of Fireflies insisting they wake Ellie up so she could make the choice herself?

  • @TomTomson81
    @TomTomson81 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Ellie has a bullshit detector. She knows the moment Joel swears he's lying.

  • @DynasTeaa
    @DynasTeaa ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When she asked him if what he said was true, she already knew he was lying. In game they made it more apparent but in the after credits of the last episode they state it

  • @ericmicke4130
    @ericmicke4130 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Joel was going to get a full ex FEDRA vehicle for bringing her to the capital building in Boston. When that fell through there was no confirmation that Joel would even have continued. It was just them hoping they'd show up eventually.

  • @wulfheart101
    @wulfheart101 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Lmao the exchange between Cannon and Carter where Cannon is just like "kill them anyway!" and Carter is all shook killed me. XD

  • @samboone958
    @samboone958 ปีที่แล้ว +335

    Part 2 is one of the greatest games of all time and has a heart-wrenching story. Don't let the haters ruin your season 2 hype.

    • @HuNTeRGoD77
      @HuNTeRGoD77 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      What a troll

    • @muh.awaluddin7893
      @muh.awaluddin7893 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You kidding?

    • @FiggFig
      @FiggFig ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I cringed

    • @TimSedai
      @TimSedai ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Agreed. It was uncomfortable to play but amazing nonetheless

    • @AustinSamson1999
      @AustinSamson1999 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Preach dude 🙌 I’ve never experienced such a roller coaster of emotions as I did on part 2. I honestly think it’s better then the first one and I say this as someone who played part 1 like 8 times or more amd waited YEARS for part 2 to drop. It was gut wrenching and emotionally challenging but so worth the wait. I thought about the story for DAYS after completing and still to this day can talk about it for hours with people.

  • @sawervogue
    @sawervogue ปีที่แล้ว +24

    10:16 McKay really enjoyed the torture scene🤣🤣🤣

  • @NoShiiitSherlock
    @NoShiiitSherlock ปีที่แล้ว +7

    33:22 - Yea if Marleen was so certain Ellie would say yes then it should have been no problem to let her decide then. Her logic makes no sense. The moment Marleen took Ellie's autonomy away - that was it. She got her whole crew killed. And she knew it too - she's said b4 she knows what Joel is capable of.

    • @Hhshsjhjk
      @Hhshsjhjk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think she genuinely didn’t want to have to tell her. Bc she did care about her, OBVIOUSLY not as much as Joel, and tbh I’m not sure Joel would’ve respected her decision, actually I’m almost positive he wouldn’t have.

  • @Josh_JKL
    @Josh_JKL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In episode 8, James (David's right hand man who shot the horse). The actors name is Troy Baker and he voices Joel in the Game. He does so many voices in other video games like Bioshock Infinite, Batman Arkham Knight, Uncharted, Mass Effect, Call of Duty Modern Warfare, Death Stranding and Metal Gear Solid V.
    Also, Ellie's mom is the Ashley Johnson who voice Ellie in the game

  • @Neco3376
    @Neco3376 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You guys should totally do a reaction to some of the "Game vs show" scenes!

  • @petezahut2432
    @petezahut2432 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think if Joel and Marlene had given Ellie a choice Joel wouldn’t accept the sacrifice and Marlene wouldn’t let her leave. She doesn’t really have autonomy in the end.

    • @nucl3arboNg
      @nucl3arboNg ปีที่แล้ว

      Ellie went into this thinking she would be coming out fine and moving on with her life. I believe if she knew this cure wasn't a sure thing, and she would lose her life regardless of the outcome I think she would not do it.

    • @petezahut2432
      @petezahut2432 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nucl3arboNg I don’t think she would do it if she knew it wasn’t a for sure thing but I don’t think Marlene wouldn’t let her say no. They would have to try.

  • @Huge_XG-Xpop_Stan
    @Huge_XG-Xpop_Stan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    FINALLY!! 🎉 also 3:30 guy in the beanie is the original Joel from the game in case yall didn’t know.

  • @Cutis0n
    @Cutis0n ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for posting I’ve been dying waiting for this reupload

  • @groggy34
    @groggy34 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The world took Joel’s daughter away from him so he’s taking Ellie away from the world as revenge. That’s how I understood it.

  • @yawprr6982
    @yawprr6982 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    Part 2 IS a masterpiece, people didn't like it because it was impredictable and it leaves place to too many possibilities. Best story game I have ever played, hands down. It's great to see you guys !

    • @daviddune7259
      @daviddune7259 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      part 2 is not a masterpiece. story is stupid- abby is a horrible person compared to joel . gameplay is amazing tho.

    • @onlineuser252
      @onlineuser252 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@daviddune7259 they're both horrible people lol

    • @daviddune7259
      @daviddune7259 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@onlineuser252 she’s worst

    • @ART3MIS_1904
      @ART3MIS_1904 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Agreed! Part 2 is a masterpiece! Those people don't like it because they like Joel.

    • @daviddune7259
      @daviddune7259 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ART3MIS_1904 because Joel got a stupid death that didn’t make sense to his character.. welcoming a group of random people, outside his town loaded with guns and Joel and brother just telling them their business. Stupid.

  • @josebuenaventura6455
    @josebuenaventura6455 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “There’s gonna people who don’t want the cure.” 👀

  • @julesb1970
    @julesb1970 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just so you know, there is a movie that is a true story about a group of people from a Uruguay rugby team who's plane crashes in the snow covered Andes mountains. Once their food stores runs out the group had to face the horrible dilemma, eat one or more of their deceased team mates or die. Yes it's a true story and a very good movie!

  • @demopem
    @demopem ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It's been hinted through the series: The Fireflies actually suck and are kinda incompetent, stupid grunts. The way they attack Joel and Ellie... (it's even worse in the game). They were losing in Boston, didn't get anywhere in 20 years. And Marlene was the worst, making stupid mistakes over and over again. Not telling Ellie, not letting her and Joel be part of any decision, and given that she didn't, letting Joel go with just two (incompetent) grunts escorting him. (Just one in the game.) Just hopeless.

  • @Emi-xy8ff
    @Emi-xy8ff ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the best video game, you'll understand in the second season how fucking good it is and how it fucks with everyones bias😂

  • @thesauceguy1809
    @thesauceguy1809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fun fact: the guy Ellie kills with the cleaver is Joel's mocap and voice actor from the game. The pregnant woman is Ellie's mocap and voice actress from the game.

  • @lenfantterrible2193
    @lenfantterrible2193 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did you guys know that Ellie's mother ( Ashley Johnson) is the person who gives voice to Ellie in the video game?

  • @adrianacerchiara
    @adrianacerchiara ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I loved your discussions after the finale. I think this is one of the better written stories (game and series) ever made and the fact that it let you overthink on what happens for this long is the proof.
    Also embrace yourself for the second season because I tell you, you're not ready for what is to come! 😅

  • @crisnicorn
    @crisnicorn ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Hello, I was a lurker from the first episode of this series and now - a subscriber 🎉 I don’t really watch anime but I stuck with it because you guys have awesome and great reactions! Loved seeing your own character developments and seeing how you grew fond of Ellie. The beautiful thing about this game and story is the inner moral dilemmas one experiences and it showed so perfectly in your guys discussion, there is no right or wrong but each person wants to justify a reason why it’s right she die and wrong for it. Loved seeing both sides from you guys and going further on it. If you guys have time, give the game a chance, it’s amazing! As for Part II, it is a such a controversial topic because of the moral dilemma. Neil Druckmann has such an interesting way of writing morality and the conflicts of it, how far you’re willing to go for live and revenged, closure, and just life - that was one of the main reasons why it was controversial. I’m going to lean off spoiling but the story itself is such a beautiful and conflicting story, just as the first game was, it makes the player feel all sorts of things and emotions; sadness, fear, anxiety, thrill, emptiness, loneliness, and just a jumble - your emotions are everywhere. The story is one of the best and whatever everyone says - the story is written beautifully. It IS a masterpiece because it cause that divide and those that don’t see it have a right to that feeling too, like I said, there’s no right or wrong - just a gray ness. Again, if you guys have time do give it a chance! You will not regret ever playing it, seriously. It’s one that makes you think forever and keep a story in your mind and heart. It is one of the BEST video games ever. Can’t wait to see you guys react to season 2 when it comes out and see who’s theories come true or not 🫣 Totally stocked you guys are stocked for it!
    Thanks guys for everything 🫶

    • @StudioGek
      @StudioGek  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you so much for this amazing comment!!!! Sorry it took so long to get it out….. but can’t wait to see what season 2 has in store. This show was actually unbelievably good.

    • @crisnicorn
      @crisnicorn ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StudioGek No, thank you guys for pushing on even with TH-cam being something else! You guys did so good and are continuing to do great with reactions (might have gotten me into AOT, thank you 🙇🏻‍♀️). So happy you guys loved TLOU 🫶

  • @dbdnw4
    @dbdnw4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are very entertaining 😂 Great channel! I’m a fan.

  • @KrisMorena.
    @KrisMorena. ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The woman who gave birth in the first scene of the last episode is Ashley Johnson, the voice of Ellie in the games.
    Also James, the guy in ep 8 who Ellie killed when she was ab to get chopped up was played by Troy Baker, the voice of Joel.

  • @TGProduction220
    @TGProduction220 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    if you guys haven’t you should watch some of the gundam series, especially iron blooded orphans, it’s got the action y’all want, it doesn’t shy away from brutal shit

  • @SapphicsforChuu
    @SapphicsforChuu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    20:27 congratulations you just described the plot of Yellowjackets

    • @SapphicsforChuu
      @SapphicsforChuu ปีที่แล้ว

      basically anyways wrong location but close enough

  • @jakemuller8626
    @jakemuller8626 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Glad you finally make it these two final episodes. If you don't know by now the one who play the role of James is actually Joel's voice in the videogame, Troy Baker is a legend and he did tons of voice acting in so many games chances are you already played at least one game. In the last episode Ellie's mom is Ashley Johnson, she was Ellie's voice in the videogame, love the full circle complete.
    Btw i agree with the comments about Part 2, is a masterpiece and Neil Druckmann took risks anybody wouldn't.

  • @Eliezer4433
    @Eliezer4433 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would LOVE to see you guys sit on the couch and have someone run through the games

  • @johnconstantine5880
    @johnconstantine5880 ปีที่แล้ว

    The actor who plays as Ellie's mother is the voice actor for Ellie in game (Ashley Johnson) 23:51

  • @ohno5356
    @ohno5356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    During the whole conversation on whether or not you would eat someone all i could think of was Yellowjackets. I don’t know if it’s something you guys would like but i think it’s worth checking out either way lol

  • @Angelacarolinax.
    @Angelacarolinax. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is only the beginning you have no idea how fucked the second game is, there will be more crying, anger, and sadness unfortunetly.

  • @nicenice1056
    @nicenice1056 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just watched ep7 two days ago, and i thought that you are not gonna do this anymore,but now im so happy that you make it done🎉🎉🎉

  • @ozzell
    @ozzell ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Part II is an awesome game and story. Some people don't like it because it presents two sides to a conflict and both sides do bad things but also good things. And they feel bad because they don't want to emphatize with the 'enemy'. The central themes are love, loss, cycles of vengeance and redemption.

  • @cityrat3237
    @cityrat3237 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So honestly ya’ll should play part 1 there is a lot that’s still left out from the game and obviously in game a lot is changed as well. Part 2 is one of those you either hate it or you love it. I personally love it. Really challenges your ability to forgive. Which the whole meaning behind part two.

  • @knight8003
    @knight8003 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I see a lot of people get tripped up about why they didn't just ask Ellie what she wanted to do. I don't think either Marlene or Joel wanted to know what Ellie wanted...the possibility it doesn't go their way was enough for them to go past that step. But a question for the group to think about: Do you think Marlene would have accepted a 'no' if Ellie decided against giving herself up for the cure?

  • @JoHnWxNoW98
    @JoHnWxNoW98 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I completely forgot about this

  • @SleepyPerson1
    @SleepyPerson1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They didn't give ellie the choice because, marlene afraid ellie will said no, and joel is afraid she will said yes😢 but joel action is feel more right or justified tho after that "its not time that heal it" but the lie making joel look so bad 😞

  • @1258ChuCho
    @1258ChuCho ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, The first guy that ellie kill is joel from the videogames and the pregnant lady is ellie.

  • @brianadelacuesta6529
    @brianadelacuesta6529 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to spoil it with the entire gameplay on youtube but.... I wont, I can't >_< all your reactions are priceless.

  • @rumbledumpthumpershaker6735
    @rumbledumpthumpershaker6735 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watch the movie Alive 1993. It's a true story. And in the game you don't just fight David. But also in the game they didn't verify only some of them knew or the religious aspect.

  • @willowsmoon4
    @willowsmoon4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Loved your reaction to these! Just found your channel and the energy is awesome, now I'm going to binge your AOT reactions. Thanks for all your work, especially with so many shows!

  • @masamune2984
    @masamune2984 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Came for “The Last of Us” reactions.
    Left with a story about a dirt-bike foot taco party.
    You all always have the best (best?) discussions 😂

  • @ferhatmez3955
    @ferhatmez3955 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The title is over the top😂

  • @NoShiiitSherlock
    @NoShiiitSherlock ปีที่แล้ว +2

    34:48 - 100% that's exactly what's going to happen. Next season will be all about Tommy's community finding out - chickens coming to roost for Joel.
    I agree with Joel's decision though
    Just wish he told her the truth right away

  • @smadar2511
    @smadar2511 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Btw, idk if you guys knew this (and yes this is an old vid so maybe do now) but the one who was Ellies mom in the show is the one who voiced Ellie in the videogame

  • @JohnLoKie
    @JohnLoKie ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In terms of Joel being right or wrong, I think some people overlook that Ellie also saved his life twice. Maybe it isn’t his primary motivation but if any of us was in his shoes, you’d definitely take that into consideration. Forget about the whole daughter thing. How far would you go to save someone who prevented your death twice?
    Also, the scene with Ellie’s mother lets Joel off the hook even more than the game implies. It is obvious now that there can be more immune people knowing what happened to Ellie as a baby can be repeated.
    I don’t know if this comes into play in the 2nd game but I think it just strengthens the pro-Joel argument even more. His real mistake then is killing the idiotic doctor with a scapel. Which in the heat of the moment is understandable based on his reaction to Joel in the room.
    Now all the debate really is about is Joel lying to Ellie and why the Fireflies act without any thought of their own livelihood.

  • @noyayay
    @noyayay ปีที่แล้ว

    ugh yes i been waiting for this 🥹🫶🏽

  • @fredropro
    @fredropro ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best line “ See you in hell” lol 😂

  • @moniquita720
    @moniquita720 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I adore the second game, and honestly prefer it over the first. Made me cry like hell constantly though 😂

    • @aClownBaby-
      @aClownBaby- ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same

    • @mehlev
      @mehlev ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same, the second one changes your brain.

  • @nyenai
    @nyenai ปีที่แล้ว +3

    so glad you uploaded this! i thought you guys dropped the series

  • @mr.toytil2072
    @mr.toytil2072 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your guy's reaction to episode 8 makes me want to see you reaction to yellowjackets

  • @manny_e3671
    @manny_e3671 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Tlou part 2 has a great story and gameplay. Hyped to see how they adapt it

  • @SleepyPerson1
    @SleepyPerson1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally, thanks guys!! Love the reaction

  • @WarNeverChanges9191
    @WarNeverChanges9191 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    David is far from been a preacher he even admitted that he was faking it lol.

  • @thegrimreaper2575
    @thegrimreaper2575 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    in the game you find an audio recording that says they've done this to other immune people and the fungi would act like it normally does once it removed from the immune person's body

    • @Fangtorn
      @Fangtorn ปีที่แล้ว

      No there isn't. This is a myth that won't die. There's only a recording in which they say they experimented on _infected_ people. They have never had immune person before.

  • @domingorubies656
    @domingorubies656 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    " Imagine playing this in the vdeogame " Oh yeah , its' one of the best levels for sure!

  • @novaya3537
    @novaya3537 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Because of you guys i started using the word Feral, such a good word to describe certain situations!

  • @kota1155
    @kota1155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lmao the vince mcmahon walk at the start

  • @beccazach
    @beccazach ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Brig made SO many good points that I've thought about too, it's actually insane. In the show, we see so many more good people than bad- Tess, Bill/Frank, Tommy/Maria, Henry/Sam, and Riley, more than bad or antagonistic people like David or Kathleen. And the people like David's community or the KC rebels aren't even bad, they're just good people who have to do bad things to try to survive, just like Joel does- but they wouldn't have to if there was a cure to restore society back to normal.
    So even tho there are more good people than bad, Joel and Ellie just happened to come across certain bad people. But that doesn't mean the rest of the world is like that or that all the good people who exist don't deserve a chance to receive a cure. Bad people even exist everywhere now, but we don't throw in the towel on making medicines or vaccines bc we don't want to help 'evil' people.

  • @karoldiazq2538
    @karoldiazq2538 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    14:58 the fact that he was a teacher before the whole world got infected makes it even more disturbing…. He is about to r*pe a child and he use to be a teacher…..

  • @Lfeodorovna
    @Lfeodorovna ปีที่แล้ว +1

    anybody else kinda want them to watch yellowjackets while watching that discussion between the two episodes

  • @NoShiiitSherlock
    @NoShiiitSherlock ปีที่แล้ว +1

    31:22 - "THE CONTRACTOOOR"😅

  • @ART3MIS_1904
    @ART3MIS_1904 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your reactions, great reactions! 👍
    These two episodes were so good!

  • @ShadowZx22
    @ShadowZx22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    20:48 that's a real story and they eventually had to eat other's bodies , they even promised each other that it's fine , “ if i die don't hesitate to eat me ”

  • @once-again-to-zelda
    @once-again-to-zelda ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Joel ALSO lied in order to protect Ellie from making a decision like that. She's just a child, and is - currently - a SEVERELY depressed child, so depressed that Joel connects with her by telling her about how he almost killed himself. She's also desperate for a her life to mean something in order to justify so many people she's met along the way dying. Idk if it's ethical to tell a depressed child that they might save the world if they die. Ellie WOULD have made the choice to save humanity, but would it have been for the right reasons?

  • @samuelmathu3327
    @samuelmathu3327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you guys should definetly do a walkthrough for Last of Us Part 2. I guess take turns for every chapter, or after every death

  • @yinandyangmix
    @yinandyangmix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm glad yall understand that when Ellie finds out she's gonna be angry, and that Joel lying was the wrong move. A lot of fans don't seem to understand why Ellie might be upset over that. Whether people disagree or agree with what Joel did in the hospital, I think it's important that in the end, it's Ellie's feelings about the event that actually matter.

  • @TheJerbol
    @TheJerbol ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If my choices are starve or eat a dead homie, I'm grabbing my bib

    • @StudioGek
      @StudioGek  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh my gosh💀

    • @cannonandrus5554
      @cannonandrus5554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh heck nawww

    • @TheJerbol
      @TheJerbol ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cannonandrus5554 its k I'll be the one to survive while yall make your case to god 😂

    • @umershaikh7179
      @umershaikh7179 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Man cannibalism is the lowest of the low though. There has to better options.

  • @IGotTheReset
    @IGotTheReset ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the game, it was made more clear that the probability of actually making a cure with ellie was really, REALLY low. In the show they made it sound like she was the key to the cure and just extracting some stuff would just make it.

    • @Fangtorn
      @Fangtorn ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not true. In both games the Fireflies are pretty emphatic about Ellie being the key and the viability of making a cure. I don't know what you're seeing as different in the show.

  • @carliemccoy7659
    @carliemccoy7659 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And ellie said so they are gonna take my blood run it thru a machine so ellie didn't know this would kill her