Vega VDC irons, I have hit all of the ones you guys tested which love what you guys do but the Vega VDC is the best iron I have ever hit for me. I got lucky and found a set way cheaper than buying new and the specs were exactly what I needed wasn't for that I may never have had a set. Keep up the great reviews.
Good job including the Wilson because Wilson irons often get overlooked and they are phenominal! Forgiving, workable, great feel and looks. Price is great also!
Enjoyed watching the commentary and banter! Happy the ZX5's came in top two as I got them last summer! I would certainly look at the cally apex blended or TM P790/770 set today
What do you guys think of the Cobra Forge Tec irons. I demoed them and they felt pretty darn good. I have been using the Callaway Apex 16s then the 19s. Thinking of getting a little more distance as I get older.
Tough choices. Great video gentleman 👏 I play zx5 here in Bham Al. Elevated greens at my club. I need distance control to not roll down that hill of shame 😂missed green again!
Aloha Guys We locals play a lot of golf here. The Club I belong to, plays every Saturday as well as other clubs. Great weather all year long to play. My current gamer is a JPX 923 HM. I’m thinking of getting JPX 923 Forged . 🤙🏽
The tall guys swing is soooooo much better then even 5 months ago. It’s a fluid motion now instead of the swing and then pivot onto toe which was hard to watch. Much better and awesome to see the improvement
I'm fairly new to golf at ~18 handicap and have been playing the PXG Gen 5's for the last year. Looking to get into the Titleist T200 or P790 as I love the look of them but gotta get fitted to see which one works best for me. I'm not a huge fan of bulky irons, hence leaning away from game improvements. Been waiting for this video!
I’m a 19 handicap and I got fitted for the t200s but went with p790s because I saved over $500 via taylormade reward points. I think shaft is extremely important. I got fit for dynamic gold x100s x stiff and I’m absolutely in love with the p790s. Had them for about 2mos now. I maybe would’ve gone t200d if same price but the $500 saved swung me towards taylormade.
@@TonyDo I definitely would make sure you’re hitting more good contact 7 irons than shanks. If you are shanking a lot of shots it’ll be hard for them to fit you. I think for us a p790,t200,t350 combo is ideal it just depend on shaft fitting from there. I paid $100 for driver and irons so it was worth it for me.
I love these reviews, too. You're honest and (I don't think) driven by any agenda. Mileage may vary, horses for courses, etc- I'm sure most get that. And they are all good. And most of us could buy the 5th "best" for us and still be in hog heaven, I'd wager.
What a great video. All clubs such high performers and no clear standouts. Leaning Gen 7 here, but likely biased because iof military discount. As a 16 hcp, any club would be a reat club to work with including the game improvement category (Black Ops) Keep the great vids comiing.
Several other manufacturers offer a military discount as well. They just don't advertise it like PXG does. Check on their web pages, often in the smaller print at the bottom of the page, or call the company and ask. You do have to purchase direct from the company and not through a retailer.
When I was club shopping earlier this summer I hit a lot of different brands/models. I hit the P790’s pretty well, but the clicky sound/feel turned me off. I ended up with JPX923 Tours as I can live without the little extra distance and gapping issues.
Day 2 of asking for a review Single Length Irons compared to normal irons. I trust yall the most and wanna see how single lenth irons do for you both. Maybe some Forge Tec One Length vs standard Forge Tec One Lenth
my rank would be 5 p790 4 zx5 3pxg gen 7 2 callaway 1 titleist bc its just looks more traditional in looks and color of the steel if u look at the other colors there more liter then the titliest
Mizuno makes great irons, the Hot Metal line up is really good but the 923 lineup is super good as well in the Forged and Tour head. Thanks for watching and sharing Robbie and Todd
Distance gain is primarily just a function of stronger lofts. The magic is tragectory related to head weighting and a larger face accomodating miss-hits with inserts distributing the weight. Personally, after hitting a lot of imrovement irons, distance was not significantly different. For me, the feel of a forged face and the appearance was a determinging factor. Did I mention cost? Yea, I'm that tightwad that is reluctant to spend more money for the same performance for the big name player endorsed products. Have yet to find an improvement iron that produced better results than my Cleveland clubs I got for $600 bucks and a nice back to boot. But I am looking at Srixon and Mizuno this year, just not sure why
I rank these as 1/2 tie p790s/T200 3/4 tie mizuno/callaway, never hit the srizon but don’t like the look. Would never pay for PXG hate the look. Ping makes players distance or no? I think ping makes great stuff.
They do, the i530 would be in this category. But they told us if we wanted them to go buy them at Golf Galaxy so unfortunately they didn’t make the video. Couldn’t buy a full set at full price for this video 🤷🏽♂️
Mizuno owns this category. Best looking, feeling, and has so much forgiveness in a look that will appeal to better players. Shocked the clubs put above this 🤷♂️
We feel like we explained pretty clearly about why Mizuno fell where it did and the options they have... Also feel like we were pretty open about how much we Love and respect Mizuno Irons. Thanks for watching and sharing
@@embersgolf Love the videos boys not trying to dog on the opinion but the clubs you compared within the Mizuno line to the 245 arent techincally "Players irons" if were talking "Players irons" you said it best. They feel the best, they look the best while having the performance. Is a "Player" looking for a hot metal iron? No an average golfer is and average golfers can play "Players irons" sure but the point of the category was to appeal to "Players" while having forgivness and added distance Mizuno 245 does that in spades.
We wanted to have them in the video. Ping told us to go buy them full price at Golf Galaxy and we couldn’t do that for this video so unfortunately they didn’t make it in. 👎
just trying to be constructive here. Too much "space" between the facts. this 26 min vid could have been cut up into bullet points and only 12-15 mins.
I’ve hit all these irons except the Miuras. I agree with you all on *almost* everything here, but strongly disagree on the Ai200 - not just for myself but for the general public. I’d go… 1. ZX5 Mk II 2. Gen7 P 3. 245 4. T200 5. Dynapower Forged 6. P790 7. Ai200 The Ai200 is just an ugly shape. Way too much offset. Too thick a top line. Feel is fine, but doesn’t stand out; it only feels softer than maybe the P790s. I was looking forward to this Callaway Apex line and the Ti Fusion is cool if you bend it weak to eliminate some offset, but the Ai200 was a big let-down. I agree with you all’s Mizuno comments. I like the 923 Forged better than the 245. Still, the 245 is a great iron. I’d be curious how you all would rank the i530.
If you are basing it on looks. T200 easily imo. Yes the 923 F feel way better than the 245 but man the 245 look so good in the bag. I went from 923f to 245 this year. However dont sleep on the 925hmp
@@mitchy7051 I love the T200s at address but don’t like the back badging. Also just don’t think they’re a ton more forgiving than T150s, which look and feel better. You’re totally right about 245s - they look AWESOME in terms of bag appeal! I like the Hot Metal Pros a lot. My only problem with them is the strong lofts - I tend to deloft too much and struggle to get the HMPs to launch and spin high enough, even bent weak. I know you can ignore what’s written on the bottom of the club and just focus on gapping - but I’d rather have tighter gaps at the short end of my bag, instead of jumping from the HMP’s 42 degree PW to 48 degree GW, for example. I’m playing P770s for this reason - they’re more traditionally lofted but unlike a traditional players’ cavity back, they still launch really high and are super forgiving. I’m also a big fan of similar stuff like the i230s, Cobra King Tours, and to a lesser extend the Apex Pros. The Apex Ti Fusions are great as long as they’re bent weak to eliminate a little bit of that offset.
Don’t play more than a couple times a year at this point. But at one point I carried a 3 or 4 hcp and I doubt you’d consider my swing pretty. Our teaching pro and coach in high school hated my “homegrown” swing. But if you can generate speed and be consistently square at impact it doesn’t matter. Also if you’re a low handicapper these clubs probably aren’t for you in my opinion.
We wanted to get it(i530) here for this video but could not get it in time from Ping... They told us to go buy it from Golf Galaxy and we couldn't do that so unfortunately it didn't make the video.
When challenging a club rank, can you please start saying “call on the field stands” (when there is no valid argument to veto), or “call on the field is confirmed” (when you fully agree)…thanks bye
We wanted to get it(i530) here for this video but could not get it in time from Ping... They told us to go buy it from Golf Galaxy and we couldn't do that so unfortunately it didn't make the video.
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I love these reviews cause you guys hit the ball like me. I feel like it’s more realistic review when it comes to forgiveness and distance etc.
That’s the goal, reviews from Normal “average” golfers 👍
Wilson Dynapower forged have taken my game to the next level, i never thought i would look forward to hitting an iron off the tee…
Wilson is no joke!
Vega VDC irons, I have hit all of the ones you guys tested which love what you guys do but the Vega VDC is the best iron I have ever hit for me. I got lucky and found a set way cheaper than buying new and the specs were exactly what I needed wasn't for that I may never have had a set. Keep up the great reviews.
Good job including the Wilson because Wilson irons often get overlooked and they are phenominal! Forgiving, workable, great feel and looks. Price is great also!
You got that right!
Enjoyed watching the commentary and banter! Happy the ZX5's came in top two as I got them last summer! I would certainly look at the cally apex blended or TM P790/770 set today
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching Jason 👍
What do you guys think of the Cobra Forge Tec irons. I demoed them and they felt pretty darn good. I have been using the Callaway Apex 16s then the 19s. Thinking of getting a little more distance as I get older.
We will be trying and doing videos of all the new Cobra irons that will be coming out in the coming months 😏
Thanks look forward to watching
I just got some Mavriks and they really kick ass. Fire off the face and control is insane.
My favorite thing about you guys is that you seem like regular guys. I appreciate that you leave the bad shots in there.
Tough choices. Great video gentleman 👏 I play zx5 here in Bham Al. Elevated greens at my club. I need distance control to not roll down that hill of shame 😂missed green again!
Totally understand that Todd, thanks for watching and for sharing 🙌
Aloha Guys
We locals play a lot of golf here. The Club I belong to, plays every Saturday as well as other clubs. Great weather all year long to play. My current gamer is a JPX 923 HM. I’m thinking of getting JPX 923 Forged . 🤙🏽
Good stuff! Love that idea
blue print on my radar
takes great technique to swat them, but i feel im there.
thx for the vid
The tall guys swing is soooooo much better then even 5 months ago. It’s a fluid motion now instead of the swing and then pivot onto toe which was hard to watch. Much better and awesome to see the improvement
Your not kidding Scott, he is grinding hard at the range and in his lessons. Thanks for watching and sharing 👌
How is ping i530 not in there?..can't really take this to heart unless all players distance irons are in the test...
Exactly what I was going to say!!! How can PING i530s not be included??
My ai 300s come today! FYI I’m a 4.6 handicap.
Thats awesome! Let us know how you like them and would compare to others you've hit 👍
I’m a big fan of Srixon irons. My only issue with the ZX5 is the sole width. I’ve been unable to displace my Z 565 irons.
I went with the ai200. Tested all these clubs coming from pxg gen 6 p. My second choice was the gen 7. The next generation Zx5 is just about here
Great feedback! Thanks for sharing 👍
I'm fairly new to golf at ~18 handicap and have been playing the PXG Gen 5's for the last year. Looking to get into the Titleist T200 or P790 as I love the look of them but gotta get fitted to see which one works best for me. I'm not a huge fan of bulky irons, hence leaning away from game improvements. Been waiting for this video!
Love it Tony! Welcome to this wonderful game that irritates us all so much but that we love!
I’m a 19 handicap and I got fitted for the t200s but went with p790s because I saved over $500 via taylormade reward points. I think shaft is extremely important. I got fit for dynamic gold x100s x stiff and I’m absolutely in love with the p790s. Had them for about 2mos now. I maybe would’ve gone t200d if same price but the $500 saved swung me towards taylormade.
@@Dustin031 Did you find the fitting process beneficial being a higher handicap like myself?!
@@TonyDo I definitely would make sure you’re hitting more good contact 7 irons than shanks. If you are shanking a lot of shots it’ll be hard for them to fit you. I think for us a p790,t200,t350 combo is ideal it just depend on shaft fitting from there. I paid $100 for driver and irons so it was worth it for me.
@@Dustin031 gotcha!! Yeah I was heavily leaning towards t200 short irons and t350 4,5 irons but we shall see!
I love these reviews, too. You're honest and (I don't think) driven by any agenda. Mileage may vary, horses for courses, etc- I'm sure most get that. And they are all good. And most of us could buy the 5th "best" for us and still be in hog heaven, I'd wager.
Very true! Thank you for the support and for sharing, it means a lot to us 🎉
What a great video. All clubs such high performers and no clear standouts. Leaning Gen 7 here, but likely biased because iof military discount. As a 16 hcp, any club would be a reat club to work with including the game improvement category (Black Ops) Keep the great vids comiing.
Love the support! Thank you very much for watching and sharing
Several other manufacturers offer a military discount as well. They just don't advertise it like PXG does. Check on their web pages, often in the smaller print at the bottom of the page, or call the company and ask. You do have to purchase direct from the company and not through a retailer.
Love all your guys content! Keep up the great work
Thanks Ben, we appreciate that 🙏
Callaway number 1. Ai200 and Ai300 mixed set would be a sweet set up.
Not bad 👍 thanks for watching and sharing 👌
When I was club shopping earlier this summer I hit a lot of different brands/models. I hit the P790’s pretty well, but the clicky sound/feel turned me off. I ended up with JPX923 Tours as I can live without the little extra distance and gapping issues.
That is a great choice! Mizuno makes Great Irons. Thanks for watching and sharing
@@embersgolf for sure! I agree that they have too many iron options. I just need to figure out driver/fairway woods next.
Day 2 of asking for a review Single Length Irons compared to normal irons.
I trust yall the most and wanna see how single lenth irons do for you both.
Maybe some Forge Tec One Length vs standard Forge Tec One Lenth
What about Cobra! I 2nd the one length iron review!
It’s coming, we’ve heard rumors of some new stuff coming soon so we’ll have videos coming as soon as it drops 👌
@@embersgolf Awesome!! Looking forward to it!
How come no Ping?
my rank would be 5 p790
4 zx5
3pxg gen 7
2 callaway
1 titleist bc its just looks more traditional in looks and color of the steel if u look at the other colors there more liter then the titliest
Not a bad rank there! Thanks for sharing 👍
@@embersgolf np it was a hard choice between call n titleist
Watch the number of videos reading on the PXGGEN sevens at I’m favoring those but I would like to hit srixon
Love my T200s
Titleist make great irons 👍
PXG GEN 7!!!!🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀💥💥💥💥
Yeah man!
The 245s win this category 99/100 times. The hot metals are game improvement…
245's or 425's? 🤣🤣
Mizuno makes great irons, the Hot Metal line up is really good but the 923 lineup is super good as well in the Forged and Tour head. Thanks for watching and sharing Robbie and Todd
100%!! It should be minimum top 3!
Mizuno are the top selling irons every year to consumers “coast to coast” 🤷
Makes sense, they make great irons for a lot of different category of golfer
They make Great stiuff!
Pretty sure TaylorMade is the top selling but doesn't mean they are the best.
Distance gain is primarily just a function of stronger lofts. The magic is tragectory related to head weighting and a larger face accomodating miss-hits with inserts distributing the weight. Personally, after hitting a lot of imrovement irons, distance was not significantly different. For me, the feel of a forged face and the appearance was a determinging factor. Did I mention cost? Yea, I'm that tightwad that is reluctant to spend more money for the same performance for the big name player endorsed products. Have yet to find an improvement iron that produced better results than my Cleveland clubs I got for $600 bucks and a nice back to boot. But I am looking at Srixon and Mizuno this year, just not sure why
Thank you for sharing, we appreciate the watch and your feedback 👍
Apex Pro/CB/MB 24 vs Apex AI?
I rank these as 1/2 tie p790s/T200 3/4 tie mizuno/callaway, never hit the srizon but don’t like the look. Would never pay for PXG hate the look. Ping makes players distance or no? I think ping makes great stuff.
They do, the i530 would be in this category. But they told us if we wanted them to go buy them at Golf Galaxy so unfortunately they didn’t make the video. Couldn’t buy a full set at full price for this video 🤷🏽♂️
@@embersgolf gotcha. That’s lame of them but I still think they make good quality irons probably!
@@embersgolf did the other companies send you them to keep for free? If so that’s awesome I wanna start a channel hahah
1 apex, 2 Zx, 3 P790, 4 t200, 7 gen
I like it!
Will be buying ZXi7s when available.
Get them from us!
@@embersgolf Okay. I’ll reach out when preorder drops.
Maltby gang!!
We need to get them in the studio
Zx 5 #1
Don’t know if y’all have reviewed the ping 430 irons but wanted to see what y’all thibk about them?
Gen 7 XP or P?
XP is more forgiving but bigger club by a little bit. Depends on what your after but both are solid clubs for sure 👍
@@embersgolf hey schmuck. You never actually say which gen 7 you used, you just refer to it as Gen 7. So was it the XP?
Mizuno owns this category. Best looking, feeling, and has so much forgiveness in a look that will appeal to better players. Shocked the clubs put above this 🤷♂️
We feel like we explained pretty clearly about why Mizuno fell where it did and the options they have... Also feel like we were pretty open about how much we Love and respect Mizuno Irons. Thanks for watching and sharing
@@embersgolf Love the videos boys not trying to dog on the opinion but the clubs you compared within the Mizuno line to the 245 arent techincally "Players irons" if were talking "Players irons" you said it best. They feel the best, they look the best while having the performance. Is a "Player" looking for a hot metal iron? No an average golfer is and average golfers can play "Players irons" sure but the point of the category was to appeal to "Players" while having forgivness and added distance Mizuno 245 does that in spades.
No Ping I530?
We wanted to have them in the video. Ping told us to go buy them full price at Golf Galaxy and we couldn’t do that for this video so unfortunately they didn’t make it in. 👎
SRIXXON!!
Yeah man!
Classic Rich! 🤣
Classic
PXG, period
Period! Haha, thanks for watching
just trying to be constructive here. Too much "space" between the facts. this 26 min vid could have been cut up into bullet points and only 12-15 mins.
Thanks for the tip, we'll try to be sharper next time. Thanks for watching and sharing
where's the data?
Wilson should be the last set of irons you guys should be eliminating!!
Must not sell Ping - they’re really good
Why are we swinging in cursive?
Lol, classic Luis!
@@embersgolf lol 😂 love the channel bty! Keep them coming!
P790s. Not a fan not in top 5. Over rated.p770 way better.
But you’re judging from what you have in front of you, not what’s not there
What would you add to this list?
I’ve hit all these irons except the Miuras. I agree with you all on *almost* everything here, but strongly disagree on the Ai200 - not just for myself but for the general public.
I’d go…
1. ZX5 Mk II
2. Gen7 P
3. 245
4. T200
5. Dynapower Forged
6. P790
7. Ai200
The Ai200 is just an ugly shape. Way too much offset. Too thick a top line. Feel is fine, but doesn’t stand out; it only feels softer than maybe the P790s. I was looking forward to this Callaway Apex line and the Ti Fusion is cool if you bend it weak to eliminate some offset, but the Ai200 was a big let-down.
I agree with you all’s Mizuno comments. I like the 923 Forged better than the 245. Still, the 245 is a great iron.
I’d be curious how you all would rank the i530.
If you are basing it on looks. T200 easily imo. Yes the 923 F feel way better than the 245 but man the 245 look so good in the bag. I went from 923f to 245 this year. However dont sleep on the 925hmp
@@mitchy7051 I love the T200s at address but don’t like the back badging. Also just don’t think they’re a ton more forgiving than T150s, which look and feel better. You’re totally right about 245s - they look AWESOME in terms of bag appeal!
I like the Hot Metal Pros a lot. My only problem with them is the strong lofts - I tend to deloft too much and struggle to get the HMPs to launch and spin high enough, even bent weak. I know you can ignore what’s written on the bottom of the club and just focus on gapping - but I’d rather have tighter gaps at the short end of my bag, instead of jumping from the HMP’s 42 degree PW to 48 degree GW, for example.
I’m playing P770s for this reason - they’re more traditionally lofted but unlike a traditional players’ cavity back, they still launch really high and are super forgiving. I’m also a big fan of similar stuff like the i230s, Cobra King Tours, and to a lesser extend the Apex Pros. The Apex Ti Fusions are great as long as they’re bent weak to eliminate a little bit of that offset.
Thank you Eric for your comment and ranking, that is really good info for us and our viewers. Thank you Mitch for sharing your thoughts as well 🙌🏼
205 mph swing speed 🤣
Lol I know!
Very hard to take your input seriously when you swing like 30hcps unfortunately.
Come on, the shorter guy is a professed 4-5 HDCP lol
Thanks Mountain Biker and Todd, we appreciate the watch
Don’t play more than a couple times a year at this point. But at one point I carried a 3 or 4 hcp and I doubt you’d consider my swing pretty. Our teaching pro and coach in high school hated my “homegrown” swing. But if you can generate speed and be consistently square at impact it doesn’t matter. Also if you’re a low handicapper these clubs probably aren’t for you in my opinion.
Be quiet, moron. Be appreciative of the great content that you could never provide.
Where was ping
i530 would fit here (@retro spec)
We wanted to get it(i530) here for this video but could not get it in time from Ping... They told us to go buy it from Golf Galaxy and we couldn't do that so unfortunately it didn't make the video.
Both of your swings need help lol
We look forward to watching your video on these MajorMay
When challenging a club rank, can you please start saying “call on the field stands” (when there is no valid argument to veto), or “call on the field is confirmed” (when you fully agree)…thanks bye
Lol, we will have to start working that in! 🤣 That will make it clear to you wether we know or have no idea what we're talking about Haha! 😂
The fact that the I530's arent here just goes to show you're being biased
We wanted to get it(i530) here for this video but could not get it in time from Ping... They told us to go buy it from Golf Galaxy and we couldn't do that so unfortunately it didn't make the video.
P790 number 5, hahahahaha. Actually America says it is number 1
Thanks for sharing Lucy 👍