Observing the root of fear | J. Krishnamurti
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Observing the root of fear | J. Krishnamurti
Extract from the fourth public talk in Saanen, 1978.
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Jiddu would have been 125 years if he was alive, yet watching his videos makes you feel you are listening him live among the audience, thanks to technology. Among all his speeches, this is perhaps the most powerful speech, especially this part where he says- "Observation implies the absence of observer". Sounds mind blowing to ears but you dont get it instantly and you listen again and then again and mind starts to analyse it and then jumps in the ego and it stores it as concept and the whole point is missed. The whole conditioning of our brain in this so called human made society has made it so mechanical and analytical that unless there is a serious rewiring this will remain as nice to hear audio/videos. Many thanks to Krishnamurti channel for this free audio/video gems. It takes a lot of efforts to digitize these old rare tapes and then to share it on a platform where everyone can easily access it, just incredible effort!
Super human
What does absence of observer mean
I just read your words observation is. the absence of an observer.This is my understanding when you are observing ur SELF ur observation and ur perception merges u go deeper in your SELF.
@@rajasthangkking8987 it means to free from all kind of hypothesis of the observer.
Free from past
Freedom from known
Observe without past knowledge.
"Do you really want to find the root of it, or you waiting for an answer?" It answers all.
I use to think that the root of all fear was the fear of death, fear of dying and disappearing from "existence". I thought that was it... but now, after listening to this I realize how foolish was that "realization", as I surely thought it was so. Now I understand; fear of death is no different than any other fear, all the same, it's fear... And fear, as Krishnamurti just said, is thought. I fear this or that, is I think this or that. Again, the absence of fear is the absence of fearful thoughts, nothing else. Again, I realize, I must beware my thoughts. A little candle lit. Thank you!
Nobody experiences death, death is unknown, so fear is about losing the known!! Losing the image one has built about himself!! One can be afraid of so many things but the fear is one, that's the fear!!
I thought that the main reason fear arises is the evaluation. We fear because we like so we get attached and we fear to loose it. It may be that we like to easily. Maybe what we like is not worth liking at all, because it will result in fear.
But I can also see how time is a major component. Without time there would be no possiblity of loosing anything. There would also be no possibility of gaining anything either.
I'll have to sit cross-legged in the evening, afternoon and the evening to figure it all out. :)
You must be careful though. Being aware of thoughts is a slippery slope. The mind is prone to attaching itself to any thought with its interpretations. So being aware without neutral dispassion means attachment. An idea is to let the mind wander, slowly you’ll see what happens :)
@@ankurmishra7773 Interesting... may you kindly elaborate on this?
Yes.
I've been so busy analyzing that I've blinded myself to reality.
analysing is an activity of the mind and so is focus. focus does not equal consciousness
Can anyone explain me what this person is trying to say ??
@@VivekSingh-ih3zg The analyzing creates the "me", "the seeker" which is always in time. This is a beautiful realization. No analyzing is silence. It is the "gap" between - "Insert question here" - and then there is a pause between 2 thoughts - "resume mental dialogue again". The pause or the gap is the reality, the dialogue is the time based mind-made illusory "me" identity.
The pause is so obvious, so common place, that it is missed almost always. The pause (silence) has always been with us since before the "I" or "me" thought (prior to all), always will be and has never not been. It is never changing - but time based mental dialogue changes constantly - so which is the reality? One that is impermanent or the one that never changes?
Impermanent is a source of suffering if we identify with it, are fooled into believing it is "me" but the never changing is always IS, never changing and not a source of anxiety because it is not in time.
@@nunurbusiness894 Namaste. Thanks for this explanation. However, on you last paragraph a got "lost" again! Would you be ever so generous to expand on it? Blessings.
@@sidstar1001 Impermanent which is ever changing thought, if we identify with it, suffering is inevitable.
“To OBSERVE without any movement of thought, any movement of trying to change it, any movement to go beyond it, just to watch. When you watch so closely, the thing you’re watching undergoes a FUNDAMENTAL change. Full stop. Can you watch your fear in this manner?” 12:42
For me the key is: "without trying to change it or go beyond it" 🙏
Thanks
That's the part that grabbed my attention. To watch without any action. Then what is Observed comes to Life.
The movement of thought, does not change what it is... AMAZING
I know you said all of this lol it's simply my excitement.
Have a AWESOME day
When I have observed fear and jusr observed it, it has never gone away, I only realize I am feeling agony and I am just staring it in the face.
@@madelynhernandez7453 I also experience this many times, and have been to hell and back with my anxiety/fear.
You may find this is because there is a part of you STILL trying to 'get rid' of it, to 'overcome' it, to 'go beyond it'. If you can observe fear when it arises WITHOUT trying to get rid of it and WITHOUT 'focusing' on it (which is DIFFERENT to observing the WAVES of fear or other energy) - and I appreciate this is a delicate balancing act - you may find you get more moments where you see this: it arises and then it disappears! It's part of our conditioning which is why it can feel 'sticky' and come and go. But ultimately, the truth is that it is a PHANTOM. Not real. G-d bless
Amor Fati
"Do you see the consequences of your fears?" Wow this hit me hard.
The human race is so blessed to have Ks teaching
this is not a teaching. There are things that you have to see yourself in order to be understood.
@@imnotallergic so what it is, truth?
People claim the same of Jesus? What's the difference?
He is a magnificent thinker. His words go deep into the mind and raises questions and shows answers that we never thought.
He is not the thinker.
he is observer
Thinker is a very basic word to say. Observer is the apt representation
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏿🙌🏿
@@karanpun1191 The observer is the observed .
Love to see his child-like excitement as he uses his amazing insight in the very universal problem of fear. Wow! 🤗
The man of wisdom is none other than jk
JK is not a graduate but he is the most educated person in the whole world I have ever seen.
In quantum mechanics and Schrödinger cat's, observation does change the things observed. He saw this fact without any scientific experiment. Jk what a marvelous human being..
Yes!
Absolutely
Its impossible not to fall in Love with K
I accidentally happened to 'discover' him about 3 months back on TH-cam after following various modern "Gurus" and have not been able to stop since then.
Lucky you to find a no-guru :)
@@dragonartstudios Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic 😏
I am loving awareness, I am love. Thank you 🙏
This video holds the answer to the root of psychological fear.
No it doesn't, I have watched it many times and nothing.
Sir I clapped when u ended it , gratitude 🙏
Thank you
Perfect timing. God bless.
I loved it. Love you JK.
All I can say is thank you
So powerful. So simple. So direct. Thank you Krishnamurti. You gave me a lot. ✨✨🙏🙏✨✨
I am very lucky that listening these videos on TH-cam thank you so much for your great job
Thank you forever 🙏❤️ you help immensely our lives.
Beautiful awakening of INTELLIGENCE
I love this man ❤️
A Great philosopher and thinker of times to come!
When one is entangled in the process of analyzing, indeed it involves either past or future or even both. Observation and intense watching can only take place in the Now. Rather one who lives intensely in the present moment is able to practice in actual the 'observation' as said by JK♥️
Thank you for sharing 🙏💞
Quantum entanglement
Brilliant!
We are blessed to listen to his speech
Thanks so much
Thank you ❤️🙏
Great guide for humanity! Gratitude for all his teachings!
Very powerful message 🙏🏿🙌🏿
observing the movement of mind in time can drive the sense of fear
Who is observing the movement of mind?
Beautiful.
Thank you soo muchhhh
I think that saanen talks are best ❤️❤️
Fact
Спасибо 💕 🌷🌹🌷🌺
Wonderful sir
Great!Love him!
I understand his words better, when i close my eyes to listen it ♡
Que enseñanza tan profunda. Gracias, somos uno.
This brings to my mind living in the moment. Not thinking about the past. Not thinking about the future. Just being.
That is just escaping.
Demasiada sabiduría, maestro Krishna.
love you so much !
Thank you🙏🙏
So clear
WONDERFUL
Simply by pass mind(thoughts) which takes u out of d present.
So passionately brought into our Hearts, great thanks being able to hear thus. 🌹🦋
A great lesson!
This talk couldn't be more relevant than current times, the whole world is struggling with Covid 19 n everyone needs to see this video to help overcome fear
Very insightful
Incredible!
What a beautiful man!
Thankuu
❗️☮️Thanks
Very thoughtful points during current times..mere listening feels like meditation❤️..
Beautiful
amazing
Wow 🙏💗
Greater smarter wiser man ever
Thanks
Amazing ❤ detect fear and experience the inner peace.
that's some real content. even nowadays mos important. the chemistry between fear and hate rules mankind this days.
Just love....My life changer...Sir...❤🙏🙏
The observing of the fear and the observation that you want to stop it or end it or transmute it is also part of the meditation.So this observation is an equilibrium of pure observation and wanting to end fear. So there is no friction or anxiety about getting a result. Observe the fear and all its branches of getting rid of it,the thoughts that if you do you'll be free of it,is the meditation.👍K
The Great Teacher
Love it's love
Thank you my God.
It's magic and practical words from an enlightened teacher
He is simply brilliant !
True
Fear, False Evidence Appearing Real! I believe fear was created by man's ego to keep the masses in line... when you know the truth, you know, only love is real ❤🙏 nothing else exists.. Thank You Krishnamurti, your words ring true. One Mind 🎯
It's not a belief. Fear is created by the ego to keep you in line for its own reasons so it will stay alive. All it wants is varification of its own existence.
Brilliant. And the truth.
He have a clear vision....❤
His point is to observe fear or 'the overall fearful thought in the progress of time' without labeling it with any positive or negative name or value. By doing this, fear is no longer a subjective matter to the observer. Now it has become 'objectified' and so utterly powerless toward the observer, because it's no longer part of him/her.
Only problem of this act of observing or objectifying fear from oneself is that it doesn't feel just or legit because fear happens 'within' the observer. Thus, the privilege of having observational distance from fear is rightfully for those who are free to deny themselves based on the truth that the Creator became immanent, as Immanuel, who said, "Truth will set you free,"
I got this concept 2 years ago already, I understood, I summarized it in writing. Now viewing this again, I realize I "got" nothing. Understanding the concept intellectually is next to useless. I am the same old, same old.
Amazing amazing explanation of what meditation is about. We have to practice and that is my take away from this talk of Krishnamurti ji.
lmao, funny answer
Anticipation of things beyond
Analysis is a way of running away from the truth.
He is just perfect, to overcome your fear or know what they are is just simply observe it’s mostly a change of movement and roots are just thoughts. And when you observe you negate the root cause it’s just a theory but not a real fear.
Can u elaborate please
Right
Its nice.listening to this man but there is nothing he talks about others than any thinking living being have wrestled with since the Dawn of mankind. We tend to put so much trust in these gurus who claime that they are on the road to enlightenment way ahead of anyone else. These path has bin tread by many thinkers and none is any the wiser as to answer these questions definitely. We can only assume a humble.approach to them and yet again conclude that god is silent. We are all thrown out there no matter what❤
k went well out of his way to address those very problems & frequently reminded us of the simplicity and transparency.. Surely another human, but not your average "guru" in any sense. they were going to make him some sort of dali lama figure and he rejected the whole thing..
This is pure Vipassana
Though is the root of all fears created by ourselves..
Too intense and great words thinking soo deep it makes the mind tick ticktock🙏
Fearless
this talk has resemblance to the concepts of quantum mechanics.
Elaborate please
@@cookiesta as long as there is observer ,the electron or particle appears but when there is no observer, there is no electron or particle.
When there is observer, there is fear but in the absence of observer, there is no fear
@@ranjitvideobook6236 i want to know more about it...
@@ranjitvideobook6236 i have watched double slit experiment so i get your first part of the comment but i don't understand second part
The last part it's crucial. Meditating it's not a seminar. It's not a product. It's not related to discipline. It's way beyond all of that and it's very simple actually, as Jiddu said. Nice talk.
Thanks I realize
People don't understand what jk is referring. Pure just looking is equal to being...in that looking itself..the..false.dissolves..by..itself..
Just.. don't give..anysortof.. involvement.. marvelous.
Act of being actless...❤️❤️❤️
The act of being actless of being fully aware of your existence also brings terror to me because I wish I never existed and I feel stuck here eternally. Its pure agony.
In one world we are afraid of change! Whether it be, being ashamed(a change in the perception of one's own made image), be it death(just a change of the five elements back to its origin),etc.
But what we forget is that, everything is changing at each and every moment.. be it at the physical level ( where thousands of cells are made every day and thousands become dead), or at the mental level( where at each instant our thought moves or changes).What we say as 'I' is dying at every instant ..while living at the other. But there is one thing that is constant at every moment that is the observer and it is not different from the observation.. It is the Observation.
So the root is loss and time takes all.
Life needs observation.
be-ing has no fear. fear becomes a factor in doing and having states.
be-ing by default is inclusive, love, without boundary.
ask: who is do-ing, have-ing? - there will be a separate you.
ask: who is be-ing?
"One must understand Onself"
Wish I could’ve met him.
His words can change your life , if you self inquire
If I had to choose one word to describe 2020, it would be "fear".
This was recorded during the threat of nuclear war. A threat that has not yet been solved
I didn’t even notice. I don’t watch the news!
"Please, maam, do not take notes, for the love of Pete." 😆
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