When I was a gunsmith apprenticing, you would be amazed how many people will buy $5000 toys and $12 accessory's and the cheapest ammo they can get their hands on and wonder why it doesn't work
@@billiondollardong An over under shotgun takes a certain amount of recoil to drive the inertia switch between the barrels… It's the design; cheap 1 ounce 12 gauge loads often will not put that to work nor will a weak shoulder… If you put a cheap Amazon mounts or any other junk on your Galil it is likely to fail where associated with that part… Just because the gun runs with everything does it mean your accessories get to be cheap And meet the status quo… If you got that desert tech to run More than 75% of the time I'm impressed. Their bolt guns are awesome; they just updated their semi because it was junk… Also I like how you name a bunch of expensive guns; high-quality ones; don't see a lot of people shelling out that kind of money
I am old. I have always tried to buy the best firearms for toughness and reliability. I'm retired and money is tight with this economy. I am glad I did not skimp on what I did acquire. Yes, I had to save to get what I have, but to me, it was worth it.
Buy once, cry once. We are lucky to have so many great options at any budget these days though. I like your philosophy, durability and reliability being the priority and you can't go wrong. I've seen a lot of guys get into the weeds chasing features and extras at a particular price sacrificing that reliability.
Totally. Luckily I learned "buy one, cry once" buying tools before I lost money in firearms and parts. I will admit, I did buy into the Olight hype and regret a couple flash lights I've bought.
Lesson I learned: don't buy light wt ccw or deep concealment guns; DA revolvers or pistols, then think they can shoot well, be able to perform like a duty-carry gun.
@@DavidLLambertmobile that's just a product of guntubers being really good, practically professional shooters with how often they shoot. They make just about anything seem easy to operate effectively. Us mere mortals on the other hand...
The Australian army sought to have a piece of equipment that was unbreakable created. Engineers came up with a solid stainless steel sphere. For testing they gave it to a grunt. He lost it.
That's the problem; most of us won't run our gear to the level this guy does, but we need something - anything - that will ensure we're not caught short and can at least train. At a certain point, you have to just relax and say, "F it. It'll never be perfect."
Depends on the mission. If you're just using the the firearms to protect your home and family, you dont need all that expensive doohickey crap. Its not going to make you any more proficient and is a giant waste of money. The biggest investment you can make is simply range time and ammo to know how to put lead on target. A $1000 optic and $400 light is just way overkill. Additionally, I think some gun gurus overthink a lot of this stuff. There's nothing wrong with O-Lights if you take care of them and don't abuse them like any other tool. Its literally just a flashlight. You do not need to spend $200-300-400 for a freaking flashlight its not a NASA level tool of major complication. Now if you're looking to get your GI Joe on and bug out and live off the land and escape the Russian invasion like Red Dawn then yes you probably want to invest more money into higher-end accessories -- but for 99% of the population that scenario is neither probable or practical and they simply need a solution to put holes in a burglar in the kitchen at 3am. A $500 setup is going to do that just as well as a $3500 setup.
I with you man. There is beauty in simplicity. It took me too long to realize I was never gonna re-enact the battle of Fallujah in my living room and stop wasting my money. Marketing has really done a number on the industry.
Thank you for doing this video. It’s exactly what I’ve been taught all of my life and I struggle with the people who take the Kudzu Commando approach to self defense. They buy a 1K pistol, 20$ holster and 15$ light. Shoot one time and are ready for the world. I’ts amazing to me that they don’t consider how much their life is really worth
@anthonychiappetta9225 some folks just have money to blow and wanna see if the more expensive shit is worth it. Me, I'll take a $150 PSA lower all day long. They work, if it ever stops working throw it away and buy another 🤷♂️
@@BrassBashers You're probably right. I mean if I have more money than I can count, I'll probably try out everything at some point just to see if it makes a marginal difference.
I know one mistake am not doing ever again listening to people say shorts and high socks don't work. Look at these gentlemen killing it in those shorts. For now on am at range in shorts!! Great video once again james and then team.
Wear what you want! Life is short. Enjoy yourself and be the best you can be. I wear Dickies work wear. Why? Comfy, lasts forever, and for where I live (out past the sticks), makes perfect sense. After the workday, I hit the shower, then wear shorts and a t-shirt. Who sees me? Nobody. Do I care? No.
"There's a company called...it starts with an "O"...and they have flashlights..." that was hilarious. I'm surprised you didn't get the fanboy mob demanding you be removed from TH-cam. It doesn't matter to me if you left off a manufacturer that I like, but I was glad you mentioned Aero Precision and FN. This video was outstanding and worth every second of the watch.
I'm not a fanboy but I have a bunch of Olights and have never had an issue with their standard or gun lights in 5 years of using them. Not saying that streamlight and surefire aren't better. Just sharing my experience.
I got a olight mini 2 valkryie on a CZ P10C and it's been great it's went through some some abuse an has always been fine. I couldn't speak as far as their other lights though.
Thank you James for this interview with Jack. There is nothing like experience when it comes to firearms (and most other things too) and I found Jack’s vast and deep experience with so many products to be very helpful. I have a box of gun accessories that I regret purchasing and hopefully Jack’s insights will help the box stay the same size and not grow. Well done video.
For beginners like me and who this video is designed for, It would be very helpful for experts like yourselves to recommend specific brands (in all categories) and provide links to products so that many of these issues can be avoided
If you are a armed officer or new to ccw, carry, guns(personal defense) I say stick to the common main brands: S&W, Glock, SIG Sauer, HK, Walther. Get well made, quality holsters/gear: Safariland, Galco, Don Hume, 5.11.
@@DavidLLambertmobile I second all of that, and I’d add Beretta and CZ for pistols; ANR Design for holsters; and Surefire/Streamlight for pistol lights (although O-Light and InForce pistol lights have both worked for me); Trijicon and AimPoint for red dots (I’ve also never had an issue with my Burris dots or my Swampfox dots). For optics and flashlights, you should spend more on those two things than your pistol. I’d rather have a Glock 19 with a Trijicon and a Streamlight than a SIG Legion series P226 or P320 and an “Amazon special” $30 light and a $100 Bushnell red dot (or a Holosun).
@DavidLLambertmobile I would probably add Springfiekd Armory and FN to that list. Can't really go too wrong with any of those brands, so just try out different models and then get the one that works best with your hand, since everyone's hands are different.😊
@travisminton2141 I myself would NOT use FN America aka FNH. The firm has a few popular rifles & military 🪖 style weapons but pistols, police-ccw-defense? That's been hit & miss; 2010s 2020s. The FN line- FNS was so bad police depts, LE units quit using them. 🚫 . LAPD picked the MRD 509 9mm but a few had problems. Glocks were in use under Chief Bratton & very popular. Glock 21s, 22s, 17-34-19s.
These are absolutely the best videos. Just two knowledgeable dudes sitting around and shooting the "no bullshit". This conversation alone clarified about twenty things I'd been wondering about for some time. More, please.
Great video! Answered the questions I would have asked without getting too technical. The knowledge and info from Jack Daniel was clear cut and to the point, which I like. This definitely needs to be a series.
i'd actually be super interested to see actual failure rate stats from these classes. like "in classes this quarter we had 200 of this particular product and 8 of them failed" is much better data than "one broke every week." getting real failure rates from field use would be an incredible useful data point.
I've done many classes at other places and it seems that about 25-30% of the new people will have their gun go down, with another 25-30% of those having some kind of day-ending breakage. Fortunately, I bring a full tool kit, extra parts, and extra guns. Classes with people I know to have experience doing classes almost never have equipment problems. They're dialed in. Key lessons for gun class: 1) Running your equipment hard in class will reveal deficiencies. 2) Always, always take 2 or more guns. 3) Make sure you're not taking crappy guns to class. 4) Make sure ALL the guns you take to class are sighted in BEFORE you get there. 5) Take a cleaning kit, bore snake, cleaning rod, and lube. 6) Mags and ammo. Take lots of both. Show up with your mags already loaded. 7) Don't forget the other stuff: appropriate clothing, water, snackies, sunscreen, and a camp chair. 8) If you're going to take pictures, realize there are some of us there that don't want to be photographed, much less be on the internet with our guns. Call it paranoia. Bonus lesson: take your Taurus, modified Glock, or cheap AR-15. Throw it in a lake. Don't take them to class. That crap never runs right. I've seen it time and time again.
Sig, didn’t take care of the guy your buddy did. I’ve dealt with Sig and if you break it they won’t help you for free. And they definitely aren’t sending it next day air.
Sig has been in a decline for years. Despite what people claim there absolutely is a difference between Sig USA and the Swiss/German produced products. Take a look at the Swiss made 550s and the New Hampshire made 550s and it's apparent.
@@levistrauss5378 Almost like they realized they could stop trying when they realized they could jack the prices up on mediocre product and the government/idiots will gladly shell out for it because "premium!"
Absolutely solid, and please do follow-up (pt2, 3...) videos. This was killer info. Thank you for the invite (felt like we were there with you). God bless and happy Easter.
As a retired weapons trainer for the largest sheriff’s department in America, this guy is absolutely correct about the importance of quality parts and what we have seen with failures and the crap that people want to hang on guns. Good video!
I've run Streamlights, Cloud Defensives, and Olights out of curiosity. The switches on my HLXs, three of them, have all died, but the clicky buttons work great. The Olights are somehow fine, the Javelot is weirdly brighter than my Rein 1.0 and 2.0 lights, but their mounts are just garbage. They're perfectly fine for indoor use, I haven't run them particularly hard. The Clouds are absolute tanks all around though- no regrets about those purchases even with how god awfully expensive WMLs can be and plus, they're an Indiana company. Gotta support the homestate.
I have half a dozen Olights on pistols, rifles, and shotguns. It's been about 5 years and I haven't had any failures. Lights, switches, batteries, mounts, etc all still just fine. Granted, I don't run them hard but I have a limited budget for accessories.
Growing up in a family of Georgia Tech-trained Engineers taught me that metallurgy matters. That knock-off aluminum adaptor plate for your Trijicon RMR will *not* hold up like the steel one from the factory, nor will it let you torque the fasteners properly. Like J.D. said, get the factory plate.
Sigs customer service is awful. You have a good friend who went out of his way to get you that optic overnight. They have told many of the customers that they are SOL or to cough up $$$ for a replacement of the same thing thats broken/dysfunctional.
They replaced my Romeo 4m that had an electronics issue. They sent me a Romeo 4t as a replacement as they had just discontinued the 4m line. All for free with an email and shipping label. Maybe I got lucky?
They fixed all my optics, relooked and torqued down my lt when the issue first arose even included torque specs that weren't in the instructions because they were printed too soon. Sent me 3 paper instructions when I said I hated pdf versions. Nothing but happy things with me and with the LT sent me an extra bolt assy and firing pin in my bcm grip.
Garbage company with, like, 2 good guns and no good optics. Imagine needing to send your optic in or get a replacement instead of just buying a Trijicon or an Aimpoint like an adult.
Please make more of these! Interview more trainers whobhave pics of weapon product failure so us regular people: 1. Know what potential failure points are products have and ar what rates. 2. Let us know what to change out or spare parts ro buy for preventative maintenance.
I just got my Ruger SFAR (first time rifle owner) and insights like these are very important to get things right the first time. I don't want to be working with my budget minded accessories and find I got what I paid for. Thanks for taking the time to share.
I can't say I've ever seen a more informational jam packed video with raw unfiltered experienced issues be it derogatory or positive praise given in less than 30 minutes. Damn that was good.
I've had 2 Holosun 507C's, both with zero issues over many thousands of rounds. Now using a Holosun EPS, had the battery tray back out and yeet battery tray screw into the ether. Bought replacement form TacRig which appears to be better quality, used Loctite to reinstall.
Big rookie mistake, new gun owner: buying off brands or lower end brand models then think 1000s of gear, holsters will fly out. Even well made lines like VP9s, PDPs often lack gear-holsters.
Too many people drop thousands on hardware and have almost no ammo on hand. What worries me isn't the guy who spent $4k each on 20 guns - what worries me is the guy who spent $400 on a "bad" gun and has since put several thousand rounds through it, making frequent range trips to stay in practice.
The takeaway I get from these types of video's is don't buy into the latest hype, and simple and rugged tends to stay that way longer than not. And I love at the beginning when he said everything breaks, so Very true. For the life of me I just don't understand the desire for cheap sights whether they're optic or 'irons'. Sights like the plastic backup sights by (Any Company Name Here) are just a big NO for me. My two favorites for flip ups / back ups have been Midwest Industries and A.R.M.S. , and for QR optic mounts I really like LaRue Tactical.
Went straight to the website and I " really NEED " to get my behind to the Ranch and get back into shooting medium/long range shooting. Love the easy course info on the site. Greetings from ICELAND 🇮🇸
Why does no one talk about EOTech anymore? I know there are a ton of Chinese counterfeit ones that people have done reviews on, blaming EOTech when it was never their product. I've had mine for 15 years, uses AA batteries, zero issues ever.
$500 pdw stock, $300 trigger, $200 buffer, $60 safety selector, $150 lpk, $400 lower plus im sure some sort of titanium go fast stuff all over and shipping of parts he's probably close to that much into the lower
@@stevem4783 I know that. What I’m saying is: Why would you spend $2000 on what looked like a regular lower with a weird buffer when the most advanced lower on the market that is incredibly light only costs $1500?
That’s the way to go after primary arms dropped the 🔥 prisms I’m not sure why anyone would buy anything else after that your failsafe is in the optic and there very solidly priced
Yes ! The place I work, we use a lot of small screws, (M3, M4 & M5). We easily go through a few hundred each week on our tooling. But then, someone in the front office got the bright idea of sourcing chinesium screws to lower the cost and the failure rate instantly exploded. We went back to our original supplier within a month. Cheap hardware makes expensive fails.
I like my Beretta 92F. It has target sites mounted and shoot very well. My opinion is that if I could afford to go to Thunder Ranch, I would bring it and the Glocks I own. Just a fun gun to shoot but it is heavy as hell.
in fairness to the Olight, if you don't lock the light or the tape switch cap, they will fall off. If you have people who can't even mount optics/back up sights on their gun right, it's not a stretch to imagine they would not know/think to secure their light. I have had Surefire scout light pressure pads come loose at the light just under recoil. It's actually pretty common and people just suggest spending another $100-200 on aftermarket stuff to fix it.. Same for Streamlights. The HL-X with the plugable pressure pad is TRASH.
I've been totally happy with my Olights. I'm not particularly hard on them and I have no doubt that extremely and sure fire are better... But there's a limited amount of cash that I'm willing to dole out for accessories.
I recently bought an olight to try it out, alternative to my sure fire only because battery on my sure fire is a bit lack luster. Im trying to see what’s wrong with olight? Lol
Awesome video! I’d love to see a volume 2. Nice to hear some high round count feedback from what works and what doesn’t. For sure changing up some of my kit based on this video.
I thought this was gonna be a sucky video. But I was wrong, very good info and candid talk. And I had to replace the Glock factory plate due to screw sheering off.
I hate to say this, but I might be leaving the Glock gang for S&W for EDC. I’ve been so impressed with the ported S&W Performance Center M&P Shield M2.0 that my wife picked out for EDC and my S&W 5.7 that I’ve been plinking with that I’m strongly considering picking up one of the new Performance Center M&P 2.0s. Out of the box, I feel they are way better than my Glocks have been.
Living vicariously through you James as I can't afford the entry price for Thunder Ranch! But all things being equal I'm not a Lawyer either lol!! Love the fact that you share great stories and Ideas with us common folk!!
Love this video! First one Ive seen where the reviewer didnt owe the companies anything. Would love to see more like this. Definitely subscribing to both of yall🤘
It’s always great to hear from the guys at Thunder ranch. They run their guns hard so it’s nice of them to provide insight on their experiences on the range with guns & firearm accessories. Can’t wait for Vol 2
I wish i could make every person that argues about cost and quality sit down and watch this video. I expected another video with the same stuff everyone talks about. You guys got REALLY in depth on failure points and equipment failures that not alot of people talk about, or experience until they RUN their gear. I dont get to train as hard or as often as id like, but i still chose quality equipment that has been vetted and proven by users such as yourself, who have hands on experience with common, and not so common failures.
A Fix-It Stick* and a paint pen solve a lot of problems. Proper install is key to making sure parts and accessories stay on. *or your personal preference. I like the Fix-It Stick but other quality torque wrenches are available
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Mistake 1:
Buying shorts that are too long
😝
Yikes, too short shorts, black or no sox...yuck..distracting from the info...
Or not tight enough.
Amen!
Awesome
Mistake No. 2:
sitting at the table with a guy whose name is literally JACK DANIEL and drinking WINE with him!?!
It’s actually our own urine
So Bear Grylls.
@@tfbtv ok, that's way stronger than whisky then 😄
@@tfbtvlooks like y’all are properly hydrated then
That may be # 1 mistake?
We absolutely need to have a part 2 part 3, part 4 etc. This kind of feedback is invaluable for the consumer.
Love your name!
This is my third viewing of this vid, and I still pick stuff up. Really useful, with context.
It’s sweet that they took time out of their date day to make this video for us!
It’s actually foreplay, look how hot and bothered reeves is
❤😂
Their job is making videos
They're not doing it for free.
@@hakimcameldriver whoosh
Watching a lawyer fail at reading comprehension on sling instructions is hilarious.
You are a saint and a scholar. 😮
Ask LegalEagle then
Lawyers have paralegals for reading and writing.
The law shouldn't be so complicated that you need 6 years of school to decipher it. Simple is better
James can't read anything that isn't written in Napoleonic code.
When I was a gunsmith apprenticing, you would be amazed how many people will buy $5000 toys and $12 accessory's and the cheapest ammo they can get their hands on and wonder why it doesn't work
I used to work at a gun store and accept gunsmith orders I know exactly what you mean. Even $10k+ guns with cheap shit
@@silentbigsteve3429 hear that!
@@billiondollardong An over under shotgun takes a certain amount of recoil to drive the inertia switch between the barrels… It's the design; cheap 1 ounce 12 gauge loads often will not put that to work nor will a weak shoulder… If you put a cheap Amazon mounts or any other junk on your Galil it is likely to fail where associated with that part… Just because the gun runs with everything does it mean your accessories get to be cheap And meet the status quo… If you got that desert tech to run More than 75% of the time I'm impressed. Their bolt guns are awesome; they just updated their semi because it was junk…
Also I like how you name a bunch of expensive guns; high-quality ones; don't see a lot of people shelling out that kind of money
@@billiondollardong though I do agree with your point overall there is quality out there just got a pay for it
Seen a UTG scope on a Barret MRAD a month ago
Man, this series needs to happen more often. Thank y'all
I am old. I have always tried to buy the best firearms for toughness and reliability. I'm retired and money is tight with this economy. I am glad I did not skimp on what I did acquire. Yes, I had to save to get what I have, but to me, it was worth it.
Buy once, cry once.
We are lucky to have so many great options at any budget these days though. I like your philosophy, durability and reliability being the priority and you can't go wrong. I've seen a lot of guys get into the weeds chasing features and extras at a particular price sacrificing that reliability.
Totally. Luckily I learned "buy one, cry once" buying tools before I lost money in firearms and parts. I will admit, I did buy into the Olight hype and regret a couple flash lights I've bought.
Lesson I learned: don't buy light wt ccw or deep concealment guns; DA revolvers or pistols, then think they can shoot well, be able to perform like a duty-carry gun.
@@DavidLLambertmobile that's just a product of guntubers being really good, practically professional shooters with how often they shoot. They make just about anything seem easy to operate effectively. Us mere mortals on the other hand...
Thanks. Would u elaborate on what pieces you spent your hard-earned shillings on?
The Australian army sought to have a piece of equipment that was unbreakable created. Engineers came up with a solid stainless steel sphere. For testing they gave it to a grunt. He lost it.
US Army solution, drill hole, tie paracord on to your belt, chest rig, and your neck. NCO checks if you still have it every 2 minutes
@Nathan-jh1ho lol I remember having mags and all gear tethered to my ALICE lol.
@@jb7483In BCT they had us tie Aimpoints on our M4 and someone still somehow lost their Aimpoint during a FTX
next test they gave it to a Marine. He got it pregnant then broke it with domestic abuse
@@salgarnica9328🤣
Please make this a series! Any information form Jack or Clint is priceless
One of the best videos I've seen in a long time. Would love to see more of that content with that guy.
Jack is like a brother to me. He will be on this channel for years to come.
@@tfbtv Awesome! I'm literally re-watching this video with Pen and Pad for my next build. Between the two of you guys, we are listening to the gospel.
I agree, I enjoyed this video.
Common mistake #1: Don't be poor
That's the best life lesson.
Ooops
Nah, dont watch you tubers flexing their fancy techs but then gets yeeted by a .22LR when shtf.
No, it's going there in the first place. LoL.
Knowledge is the best value
Wow that backdrop is amazing! I had to Google this place. Lakeview Oregon. Beautiful.
Very far away from shithole portland
The first point brought up about mastering iron sights is vital. So many people cant even hit a barn without a red dot.
I have astigmatism so I can't use a red dot it's a real rifle scope or iron sights for me.
@@bobjordan8283 Prisms are a nice compromise for people like us with the tism.
@@bobjordan8283yeah, get a prism. Primary Arms makes some good ones that aren't that expensive or go with the grand daddy Trijicon ACOG.
@@stevem4783Those primary arms micro prisms are absolutely game changers for those of us with crooked eyes
@@stevem4783 true. Holographic sights work well for me too.
I had a holosun fail on me, they sent me a replacement before I even shipped the defective one back. The replacement optic has been great, no issues.
When a seasoned instructor like him was asked about HK and said always. Made my decision much easier for me. Keep the videos coming.
I saw a good price on a optics ready VP9 olive green frame. HK had a 4 free factory mag offer/rebate.
I just can't respect HK knowing how much they hate the US civillian market.
The VP9 is a great and very comfortable pistol I will say that.
HK customer service is garbage. If you're not gov/mil they don't care about you
I love how James sits like a proper lady as he was taught in finishing school.
Men should never cross their legs. Period. Its the most awkward, feminine-looking thing ever.
😂
"sussy"
I was trying to figure out how to word that..
@@larryholton9560 Jack sits like Jack. James sits like Jacqueline
I like the brutal honest perspective from someone who does it all day
That's the problem; most of us won't run our gear to the level this guy does, but we need something - anything - that will ensure we're not caught short and can at least train. At a certain point, you have to just relax and say, "F it. It'll never be perfect."
More importantly.... someone not on a brand or manufacturer payroll
Depends on the mission. If you're just using the the firearms to protect your home and family, you dont need all that expensive doohickey crap. Its not going to make you any more proficient and is a giant waste of money. The biggest investment you can make is simply range time and ammo to know how to put lead on target. A $1000 optic and $400 light is just way overkill. Additionally, I think some gun gurus overthink a lot of this stuff. There's nothing wrong with O-Lights if you take care of them and don't abuse them like any other tool. Its literally just a flashlight. You do not need to spend $200-300-400 for a freaking flashlight its not a NASA level tool of major complication. Now if you're looking to get your GI Joe on and bug out and live off the land and escape the Russian invasion like Red Dawn then yes you probably want to invest more money into higher-end accessories -- but for 99% of the population that scenario is neither probable or practical and they simply need a solution to put holes in a burglar in the kitchen at 3am. A $500 setup is going to do that just as well as a $3500 setup.
I with you man. There is beauty in simplicity. It took me too long to realize I was never gonna re-enact the battle of Fallujah in my living room and stop wasting my money. Marketing has really done a number on the industry.
this what happen when manufactures are more concerned with catering to the gadget fan boys instead of giving us a reliable and affordable gun
Glad to know Aero Precision and Sons Of Liberty were mentioned as top gear. I have products from both and they are definitely solid.
Thank you for doing this video. It’s exactly what I’ve been taught all of my life and I struggle with the people who take the Kudzu Commando approach to self defense. They buy a 1K pistol, 20$ holster and 15$ light. Shoot one time and are ready for the world. I’ts amazing to me that they don’t consider how much their life is really worth
“That lower’s about 2 grand”
The brain that buys a $2k lower is a brain that buys weird random nonsense.
hearing him say that and buy that makes me wana throw everything he said out the window rofl
@anthonychiappetta9225 some folks just have money to blow and wanna see if the more expensive shit is worth it. Me, I'll take a $150 PSA lower all day long. They work, if it ever stops working throw it away and buy another 🤷♂️
What buffer even was that?
Sounds like a kac lower or some rare colt lower
@@BrassBashers You're probably right. I mean if I have more money than I can count, I'll probably try out everything at some point just to see if it makes a marginal difference.
I know one mistake am not doing ever again listening to people say shorts and high socks don't work. Look at these gentlemen killing it in those shorts. For now on am at range in shorts!! Great video once again james and then team.
Wear what you want! Life is short. Enjoy yourself and be the best you can be. I wear Dickies work wear. Why? Comfy, lasts forever, and for where I live (out past the sticks), makes perfect sense. After the workday, I hit the shower, then wear shorts and a t-shirt. Who sees me? Nobody. Do I care? No.
I've only ever worn high black socks since I can remember. Don't let anyone tell you that you can't. 🫡
The higher the socks, the higher the foo
I train in flip flops. There's no "conceal carry" in a Speedo.
"There's a company called...it starts with an "O"...and they have flashlights..." that was hilarious. I'm surprised you didn't get the fanboy mob demanding you be removed from TH-cam. It doesn't matter to me if you left off a manufacturer that I like, but I was glad you mentioned Aero Precision and FN. This video was outstanding and worth every second of the watch.
I'm not a fanboy but I have a bunch of Olights and have never had an issue with their standard or gun lights in 5 years of using them.
Not saying that streamlight and surefire aren't better. Just sharing my experience.
I got a olight mini 2 valkryie on a CZ P10C and it's been great it's went through some some abuse an has always been fine. I couldn't speak as far as their other lights though.
Have an O-light baldr mini on my P320 with at least 2500 rds through it. Zero issues.
@@Holden-McGroin Their light killed a guy who was working on his truck. Hard pass.
Yeah, IDK man. Sounds like a very unique incident. I also don’t put my weapon lights in my mouth, so there’s that.
Thank you James for this interview with Jack. There is nothing like experience when it comes to firearms (and most other things too) and I found Jack’s vast and deep experience with so many products to be very helpful. I have a box of gun accessories that I regret purchasing and hopefully Jack’s insights will help the box stay the same size and not grow. Well done video.
Looking forward to volume 2! Excellent unbiased reviews of critical components. James & Jack, repeat.
James snuck in an upskirt for the boys at 20:40. Thanks a lot, man.
16:18 “ that lower is about 2 Grand” excuse me what the fuck
No shit!!! Does it come with Lisa Ann???
Probably an LMT
A tight fitting lower is important boys. The personality is up top 😂
could have just got a Colt or FN or even a damn PSA for that matter and been good lol
@@g54b95she's never seen the day her stuff was worth 2k....thing has been shot more than a vietnam era m14.
For beginners like me and who this video is designed for, It would be very helpful for experts like yourselves to recommend specific brands (in all categories) and provide links to products so that many of these issues can be avoided
If you are a armed officer or new to ccw, carry, guns(personal defense) I say stick to the common main brands: S&W, Glock, SIG Sauer, HK, Walther. Get well made, quality holsters/gear: Safariland, Galco, Don Hume, 5.11.
@@DavidLLambertmobile I second all of that, and I’d add Beretta and CZ for pistols; ANR Design for holsters; and Surefire/Streamlight for pistol lights (although O-Light and InForce pistol lights have both worked for me); Trijicon and AimPoint for red dots (I’ve also never had an issue with my Burris dots or my Swampfox dots). For optics and flashlights, you should spend more on those two things than your pistol. I’d rather have a Glock 19 with a Trijicon and a Streamlight than a SIG Legion series P226 or P320 and an “Amazon special” $30 light and a $100 Bushnell red dot (or a Holosun).
@@wheelguns4wheelmen802 For holsters, I'd add in JM Custom Kydex, Dark Star Gear, Tenicor, Phlster, and Henry Holsters. Lots of solid options.
@DavidLLambertmobile
I would probably add Springfiekd Armory and FN to that list. Can't really go too wrong with any of those brands, so just try out different models and then get the one that works best with your hand, since everyone's hands are different.😊
@travisminton2141 I myself would NOT use FN America aka FNH. The firm has a few popular rifles & military 🪖 style weapons but pistols, police-ccw-defense? That's been hit & miss; 2010s 2020s. The FN line- FNS was so bad police depts, LE units quit using them. 🚫 . LAPD picked the MRD 509 9mm but a few had problems. Glocks were in use under Chief Bratton & very popular. Glock 21s, 22s, 17-34-19s.
Superb. Really appreciate seeing honest, unfiltered views from people who have seen a ton of gear come through.
More like Front Sight BasED amiright?!?
This video has confirmed my biases and is therefore good.
James could be in a Nair commercial.
“If you dare wear short shorts, Nair for short shorts.”
Thats an oldie. 😂😂😂😂
@@brianmanners8910 Lol, I’m pretty damn old!! 😅
I wear short shorts.
Thanks a lot, man.
Stuck in my head now! 😎
Bob Gaudio, dudes!
These are absolutely the best videos. Just two knowledgeable dudes sitting around and shooting the "no bullshit". This conversation alone clarified about twenty things I'd been wondering about for some time. More, please.
Great video! Answered the questions I would have asked without getting too technical. The knowledge and info from Jack Daniel was clear cut and to the point, which I like. This definitely needs to be a series.
i'd actually be super interested to see actual failure rate stats from these classes. like "in classes this quarter we had 200 of this particular product and 8 of them failed" is much better data than "one broke every week." getting real failure rates from field use would be an incredible useful data point.
Every class that I've seen a Kel Tec KSG, they had some kind of issue. I've seen the single tube version that ran smoothly. That's all the info I got.
If only they cared enough to keep track of such things but they're forced to carry about what makes them the most money instead ...
I've done many classes at other places and it seems that about 25-30% of the new people will have their gun go down, with another 25-30% of those having some kind of day-ending breakage.
Fortunately, I bring a full tool kit, extra parts, and extra guns. Classes with people I know to have experience doing classes almost never have equipment problems. They're dialed in.
Key lessons for gun class:
1) Running your equipment hard in class will reveal deficiencies.
2) Always, always take 2 or more guns.
3) Make sure you're not taking crappy guns to class.
4) Make sure ALL the guns you take to class are sighted in BEFORE you get there.
5) Take a cleaning kit, bore snake, cleaning rod, and lube.
6) Mags and ammo. Take lots of both. Show up with your mags already loaded.
7) Don't forget the other stuff: appropriate clothing, water, snackies, sunscreen, and a camp chair.
8) If you're going to take pictures, realize there are some of us there that don't want to be photographed, much less be on the internet with our guns. Call it paranoia.
Bonus lesson: take your Taurus, modified Glock, or cheap AR-15. Throw it in a lake. Don't take them to class. That crap never runs right. I've seen it time and time again.
I must say, this is one of the best videos I've seen this year. A very candid and straightforward video. No jaded marketing BS. Keep'm coming!
Sig, didn’t take care of the guy your buddy did. I’ve dealt with Sig and if you break it they won’t help you for free. And they definitely aren’t sending it next day air.
Yeah, sig is dogshit.
100% this. Sig doesn't help you with shit if you're just a regular dude.
Sig has been in a decline for years. Despite what people claim there absolutely is a difference between Sig USA and the Swiss/German produced products. Take a look at the Swiss made 550s and the New Hampshire made 550s and it's apparent.
@@levistrauss5378 Almost like they realized they could stop trying when they realized they could jack the prices up on mediocre product and the government/idiots will gladly shell out for it because "premium!"
Sig is horrible. QC has taken a back seat thanks to those fat daddy warbux contracts
Really good interview. Appreciated the no bs.
Absolutely solid, and please do follow-up (pt2, 3...) videos. This was killer info. Thank you for the invite (felt like we were there with you). God bless and happy Easter.
As a retired weapons trainer for the largest sheriff’s department in America, this guy is absolutely correct about the importance of quality parts and what we have seen with failures and the crap that people want to hang on guns. Good video!
That noveske forward assist fail was HILARIOUS to me 😂😂😂😂. How does a $2000+ rifles sh*t just fall off?
I've run Streamlights, Cloud Defensives, and Olights out of curiosity.
The switches on my HLXs, three of them, have all died, but the clicky buttons work great. The Olights are somehow fine, the Javelot is weirdly brighter than my Rein 1.0 and 2.0 lights, but their mounts are just garbage. They're perfectly fine for indoor use, I haven't run them particularly hard. The Clouds are absolute tanks all around though- no regrets about those purchases even with how god awfully expensive WMLs can be and plus, they're an Indiana company.
Gotta support the homestate.
I have half a dozen Olights on pistols, rifles, and shotguns. It's been about 5 years and I haven't had any failures. Lights, switches, batteries, mounts, etc all still just fine.
Granted, I don't run them hard but I have a limited budget for accessories.
@@sociopathmercenary Chyna
@DigitalApex Where was the device made that you’re typing on?
Growing up in a family of Georgia Tech-trained Engineers taught me that metallurgy matters. That knock-off aluminum adaptor plate for your Trijicon RMR will *not* hold up like the steel one from the factory, nor will it let you torque the fasteners properly. Like J.D. said, get the factory plate.
Trijicon is God tier.
@@dogevanzandt2889 Exactly. Don’t use a US$8.99 Amazon adaptor plate for it on your CZ Shadow 2 Optic Ready. Just wait until CZ restocks.
Honest question, what's the difference between a $60 Monstrum mount vs a $150 ADM mount made of the same materials?
@@5jjt materials, quality of materials, fit, durability... Literally everything.
hahah my dad is a Georgia tech engineering grad and worked as a materials research engineer for the army. I can guarantee he agrees with you!
That was a great no BS video on what Jack has seen run and what he has seen break. Awesome, thats the content i love to see, definitely need a part 2!
Sigs customer service is awful. You have a good friend who went out of his way to get you that optic overnight. They have told many of the customers that they are SOL or to cough up $$$ for a replacement of the same thing thats broken/dysfunctional.
They replaced my Romeo 4m that had an electronics issue. They sent me a Romeo 4t as a replacement as they had just discontinued the 4m line. All for free with an email and shipping label. Maybe I got lucky?
@@spec8473humans love to focus on the negative my friend
@@spec8473 hm, that's good to hear.
They fixed all my optics, relooked and torqued down my lt when the issue first arose even included torque specs that weren't in the instructions because they were printed too soon. Sent me 3 paper instructions when I said I hated pdf versions. Nothing but happy things with me and with the LT sent me an extra bolt assy and firing pin in my bcm grip.
Garbage company with, like, 2 good guns and no good optics. Imagine needing to send your optic in or get a replacement instead of just buying a Trijicon or an Aimpoint like an adult.
Great stuff. Love the no bs takes from someone who knows what works and what don’t.
Please make more of these! Interview more trainers whobhave pics of weapon product failure so us regular people:
1. Know what potential failure points are products have and ar what rates.
2. Let us know what to change out or spare parts ro buy for preventative maintenance.
I just got my Ruger SFAR (first time rifle owner) and insights like these are very important to get things right the first time. I don't want to be working with my budget minded accessories and find I got what I paid for. Thanks for taking the time to share.
Solid info. Priceless wisdom from experience. Do more like this!
I can't say I've ever seen a more informational jam packed video with raw unfiltered experienced issues be it derogatory or positive praise given in less than 30 minutes. Damn that was good.
Good stuff. Do more of these.
I truly appreciate your candidness and telling it like it is. This is refreshing in this day and age of videos. Thank you!
Great conversation and info !
Always appreciate Jack’s insight, his sample size of seeing real issues is what makes me truly listen and take heed.
This was awesome, looking forward to round two.
But I have no idea how to buy a quality set of screws for the various bits I tack onto a firearm
I've had 2 Holosun 507C's, both with zero issues over many thousands of rounds. Now using a Holosun EPS, had the battery tray back out and yeet battery tray screw into the ether. Bought replacement form TacRig which appears to be better quality, used Loctite to reinstall.
Biggest mistake as a gun owner: not training with your weapon.
Big rookie mistake, new gun owner: buying off brands or lower end brand models then think 1000s of gear, holsters will fly out. Even well made lines like VP9s, PDPs often lack gear-holsters.
@@DavidLLambertmobile 80% of my reason for owning a boring ass glock is that anything worth using is made for a glock
Word!!
Too many people drop thousands on hardware and have almost no ammo on hand.
What worries me isn't the guy who spent $4k each on 20 guns - what worries me is the guy who spent $400 on a "bad" gun and has since put several thousand rounds through it, making frequent range trips to stay in practice.
@@RighteousJ "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." - Bruce Lee
Great video fellas! Thanks
Finally someone said it!!!! Aero is the best. The products that sell are easily 3x the quality for companies at the same price.
The takeaway I get from these types of video's is don't buy into the latest hype, and simple and rugged tends to stay that way longer than not.
And I love at the beginning when he said everything breaks, so Very true.
For the life of me I just don't understand the desire for cheap sights whether they're optic or 'irons'. Sights like the plastic backup sights by (Any Company Name Here) are just a big NO for me. My two favorites for flip ups / back ups have been Midwest Industries and A.R.M.S. , and for QR optic mounts I really like LaRue Tactical.
James out here about to steal yo girl with those short shorts 💀
Went straight to the website and I " really NEED " to get my behind to the Ranch and get back into shooting medium/long range shooting.
Love the easy course info on the site.
Greetings from ICELAND 🇮🇸
Sad to say, but I have seen the “reverse cowgirl” much more at our range than I have anywhere else. 😢
We dont do reverse cowgirl around here. You dont turn your back on family.
Why does no one talk about EOTech anymore? I know there are a ton of Chinese counterfeit ones that people have done reviews on, blaming EOTech when it was never their product. I've had mine for 15 years, uses AA batteries, zero issues ever.
Seconded, I’ve had one forever not sure why folks be hatin’
"That lower was 2 grand"?!
That must be 2024 money...Cause that lower ain't worth 2 grand.
$500 pdw stock, $300 trigger, $200 buffer, $60 safety selector, $150 lpk, $400 lower plus im sure some sort of titanium go fast stuff all over and shipping of parts he's probably close to that much into the lower
@@RealHankShilltotal waste of money. A 2k lower is just blowing money for the sake of blowing money.
@@Romanus- You should see what cloners drop for AR parts.
I enjoy these straightforward no BS interviews. Seems like a rare commodity nowadays.
If you can't spot the problems with all these examples of bad gear, go ahead and smash that like button.
This was great information. Thanks guys.
Who in their right mind pays $2000 for a lower receiver?!
No one.
Those who have too much money and not enough sense.
Nobody in their right mind. You can get a complete V seven lithium lower that weighs less than 2 lbs for $1500……
@@basedWisco715 You can build an entire rifle that weighs 6lbs and will last you a lifetime for less than $1,500.
Significantly less.
@@stevem4783 I know that. What I’m saying is: Why would you spend $2000 on what looked like a regular lower with a weird buffer when the most advanced lower on the market that is incredibly light only costs $1500?
This video prevents buying and crying scenarios ... thanks for this conversation and it's highly useful info
3:20 Its why I run Prisms over Red Dots. If the battery wears out, I can still use it. Also I do have a bad astigmatism.
That’s the way to go after primary arms dropped the 🔥 prisms I’m not sure why anyone would buy anything else after that your failsafe is in the optic and there very solidly priced
@@Nollideel most of my prisms are Primary Arms. They work great. I have a Vortex one too that is excellent.
Yes ! The place I work, we use a lot of small screws, (M3, M4 & M5). We easily go through a few hundred each week on our tooling. But then, someone in the front office got the bright idea of sourcing chinesium screws to lower the cost and the failure rate instantly exploded. We went back to our original supplier within a month. Cheap hardware makes expensive fails.
Great content and excellent advise.
I like my Beretta 92F. It has target sites mounted and shoot very well. My opinion is that if I could afford to go to Thunder Ranch, I would bring it and the Glocks I own. Just a fun gun to shoot but it is heavy as hell.
in fairness to the Olight, if you don't lock the light or the tape switch cap, they will fall off. If you have people who can't even mount optics/back up sights on their gun right, it's not a stretch to imagine they would not know/think to secure their light.
I have had Surefire scout light pressure pads come loose at the light just under recoil. It's actually pretty common and people just suggest spending another $100-200 on aftermarket stuff to fix it.. Same for Streamlights. The HL-X with the plugable pressure pad is TRASH.
I've had TWO Streamlights fail to work properly straight out of the box. That was in a 5 year period.
I've been totally happy with my Olights. I'm not particularly hard on them and I have no doubt that extremely and sure fire are better... But there's a limited amount of cash that I'm willing to dole out for accessories.
I recently bought an olight to try it out, alternative to my sure fire only because battery on my sure fire is a bit lack luster. Im trying to see what’s wrong with olight? Lol
Very informative. Thank you both.
Jack has a mason jar, and James is drinking from a classy wine goblet! 😂😂
What conclusions do we draw from this? Jack grunts when he poops, James moans when he wipes
Awesome video! I’d love to see a volume 2. Nice to hear some high round count feedback from what works and what doesn’t. For sure changing up some of my kit based on this video.
I thought this was gonna be a sucky video. But I was wrong, very good info and candid talk. And I had to replace the Glock factory plate due to screw sheering off.
you thought james reeves was going to admonish you for having a purple AK didnt you lol
I hate to say this, but I might be leaving the Glock gang for S&W for EDC. I’ve been so impressed with the ported S&W Performance Center M&P Shield M2.0 that my wife picked out for EDC and my S&W 5.7 that I’ve been plinking with that I’m strongly considering picking up one of the new Performance Center M&P 2.0s.
Out of the box, I feel they are way better than my Glocks have been.
THE best video of the month.
Thanks guys! I really enjoyed your discussion, and the awesome view :)
Living vicariously through you James as I can't afford the entry price for Thunder Ranch! But all things being equal I'm not a Lawyer either lol!! Love the fact that you share great stories and Ideas with us common folk!!
Love this video! First one Ive seen where the reviewer didnt owe the companies anything. Would love to see more like this. Definitely subscribing to both of yall🤘
I too really love the Steiner MPS
I wish it had more brightness settings. 8 daylight, 2 NV. The jumps in brightness are big.
I would absolutely love to see one or more additional parts to this conversation. Great video.
It’s always great to hear from the guys at Thunder ranch. They run their guns hard so it’s nice of them to provide insight on their experiences on the range with guns & firearm accessories. Can’t wait for Vol 2
This kind of content is the main reason I watch TFB, this, and the short shorts.
20:38 😂 I can't unsee that now 🤣
I wish i could make every person that argues about cost and quality sit down and watch this video. I expected another video with the same stuff everyone talks about. You guys got REALLY in depth on failure points and equipment failures that not alot of people talk about, or experience until they RUN their gear. I dont get to train as hard or as often as id like, but i still chose quality equipment that has been vetted and proven by users such as yourself, who have hands on experience with common, and not so common failures.
Short shorts, legs crossed, and white wine..........James is ready for __________.
smashing puss
@@tfbtvright on brother!🤜🤛😎
Transition surgery.
This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is what peak masculinity looks like
@@mitchellboone9917 too late!
Wow, Thanks for the insight :) Good Interview ....Keep 'em coming!
A 2k lower is insane.
A Fix-It Stick* and a paint pen solve a lot of problems. Proper install is key to making sure parts and accessories stay on.
*or your personal preference. I like the Fix-It Stick but other quality torque wrenches are available
This was a fun video!! Hurt feelings makes me feel better lol
Solid interview. 👍
My monstrum light mount for my fenix is pretty fkn awesome..
Great Video!!! We need a LOT more of this content, James🔥👍
James looks like he shopped at Baby GAP! 🤣
Please do another one of these videos! This was awesome!