9mm 124 gr +P Ammo Tests: PDX1, TAP, Golden Saber Bonded
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- This video gives you THREE 9mm +P 124 grain ammo tests: Winchester PDX1 Defender, Hornady TAP, and Remington Golden Saber Bonded. I'm using the Glock 19, 4" barrel, and SIM-TEST with 4 layers of denim. The test block is calibrated to be comparable with 10% ordinance gel. Video includes brief review, chronograph velocities, day and night shots, test shot; post-shot review of cavitation, penetration, diameter, and retained weight.
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I know it’s been 7 years now, but I do appreciate the time and effort you put into your test. In my opinion the best on the Internet! Thank you!
I used to work for a major ammo company in thew R & D department. I did hundreds of ammo tests. Maybe thousands. Your tests are the most interesting, informative and useful I have see. Thank you so much for what you have done. You raised the bar.
peelreg where do you even start on getting that job?
@@rawrsaidskye my father was one, he was a general surgeon (by profession).....
9 year old video and the content and quality are incredible. Thank you for your time and effort, I really appreciate it.
Greatest Ammo testing TH-cam channel ever PERIOD!
Not to diss tnoutdoor9, but I do think Paul Harrell, Brass Fetcher, and ShootingtheBull do tests that are equally as thorough and scientific or even more so. Tnoutdoors 9 is one of the greats for sure, but I don't think anyone is unequivocally the best. They all do things the others don't. They should all be consulted before selecting defensive ammo - and for what can be learned from their research
I'm just one among the tons of fans who are sad to hear you've decided to stop making videos. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision, but please know that you produced the most entertaining and informative practical ammo test videos on all of TH-cam, and I'm grateful for every single one. Thank you, and best of luck to you in the future!
Glad to see you back!
Sad part, he has one more video and then he is done making videos. Check his about page, he announced that he is done with the videos.
Sad to see a great Y/T video maker shutting down.
Great video and great to see you making videos!
He has one more video he's going to post by the end of the month and that will be the end of tnoutdoors9.
This is from the about section on his channel.
PLEASE NOTE: September 8, 2014 - One final ammo review in the pipeline (by end of the month) and that will close out my content producing contribution to the channel. This hasn't been a painless decision, but it is the most practical choice. It's time to focus foremost on supporting my family and tackling the endless list of time-sensitive challenges and opportunities presented via my career. I will monitor the channel as time permits, and certainly continue buying and using products in support of the firearms industry. Thank you for your support and understanding.
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Dang it!
UseAbuseReuse
dam this sucks man! this is one of my favorite channel. such good info. no BS!
UseAbuseReuse I hate hearing that love these videos
UseAbuseReuse why?
You have been my go too channel in helping me pick my carry ammo. Thank you for all the time and work you have put in for these videos.
I just wanted to say thank you to tn outdoors you taught me the importance of buying quality ammo
I really hope this isn't your last video. If it truly is, I want to thank you for all that you have done for us. The information you have given us over the years is truly valuable. If you ever decide to do one more, i'd love to see a test on the Winchester PDX1 12 gauge segmenting slug. :-)
Carried PDX1 Defender when I had my M&P45, looks like I'll be doing the same in my newly acquired LC9S. Thanks for the video!
I just wanted to say thank you for all your effort and time. I can genuinely say that of all the TH-cam gun channels yours is by far the best. It's not only entertaining, but informative. But, it's your delivery that takes the cake. No stupid gimmicks or image. Just real straight up information. When watching other informative videos I often seem to find myself yelling at the author for repeating themselves over and over, or getting themselves side tracked and losing focus on what the video was actually about. But as I stated earlier, your videos are SPOT ON, all the info I'm looking for delivered perfectly! So once again, THANK YOU, and best wishes on your future endeavors!
Sad to see you go Mr. tnoutdoors. Thank you so much for all the content you have created and posted for everyone to see. I hope to see a shooting montage of any new firearm you buy every once in a long while at least :)
Thank you for all you have given to us. It's s shame to see you go but first things first. Take care of you and yours! God speed!
TN please don't go...your ammo tests are the very best! I can only imagine how much work you put into these videos and I'm sure there are plenty of other things that you have going on as well. You have some big fans on here as you know and if you ever get the chance to post any videos in the future, it would be greatly appreciated. Good luck!!
Good to see a video on here by Tnoutdoors9. Glad the Cicadas out here in Oregon are underground this year. Very dry summer and only the crickets are rowdy.
Great job you are in my opinion the most consistent person that does this kind of comparisons. Again great job
I will miss your videos. They are thoroughly done and to the point. You've really perfected your presentation style. The data you presents speaks for itself. A no BS channel and an asset to the shooting community. Thank you for all that you have done. I hope, one day, you decide to come back with a video or two. Good luck with your future pursuits. ;)
-Matt
I know you don't make videos anymore but your hard work is greatly appreciated my friend. Thank you sir
It absolutely is. :)
Ditto! I still love to watch them!
Tommy, You have done lots of great work on ammunition tests, reviews and with the ballistics gel. Sorry to see you leaving, but I understand the regular job expecting more.
Stay safe my friend as you travel for business.
Wow! PDX-1 124-grain - This is the first of your tests for that round that didn't clog with denim. Back in the days of milk jugs and wet newspaper it clogged and it did again when you first went to Sim-Test gel blocks. I dropped it for Federal HST and never looked back. Glad to see it now works. Thanks!
Tommy, you have done us a great service. Thank you so much!
Your precision of tests never ceases to amaze. Keep em coming!
Great to have you back! Always appreciate your attention to detail in these tests! Spot on!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I also want to say thanks for the body of work you have compiled on TH-cam, as I have learned a great deal from your videos.
So glad to see you back! Love this format as you get 3 for 1 (or in the case of the next video 4 for 1). The condensed version allows you to see sidebyside results and make a decision. Kudos.
It is good to see you back. Keep getting stronger.
I know it's for limited time but I'm glad to see you back for a couple of videos. I know I myself and a ton of other Texans down here have used your testing for our ammo choices. Some of us like high pen others large expansion. Your videos have been priceless in being able to make the best choices to our individual preferences. I hope one day you're well enough to get back into testing until then may God keep you and yours.
Good to see you back in the saddle. Thanks for the video!
Thanks very much for your excellent ballistics videos! I'm pretty picky about ammunition evaluation vids, as my educational background is in physics i appreciate your effort toward accurate and objective evals. Since you asked... I carry an HK .45, and my favorite carry round is the Remington 185gr. +p Golden Saber, which i used to get by the case for a modest (in today's market) $150. The muzzle flash is significant with a ball of fire about the size of a volleyball, but it's not blindingly bright like muzzle flash can be, so it hasn't been a problem for me reacquiring the target for multiple shots in low-light scenarios. I have seen the jacket separation as you describe with the unbonded Golden Saber, but when it occurs, it seems to be very much like the example in this video, with the jacket & core being found together if slightly disconnected, which to me isn't really an issue with regard to my confidence in the round's effecacy. I have typically used a thawed out frozen turkey covered with denim and other clothing as my test medium, and the 185gr. +p GS seems to produce much more devastating results than the Hornady TAP +p (200 & 230 grain), Speer Gold Dot 200gr. +p, Federal Hydra-shok, or any of the other rounds i have tested. I haven't yet tried the Fed. HST, nor the Nosler bonded, but i suspect they may edge out the Saber as my favorite carry rounds. Thanks so much again for your time, effort and expense that you have gone to producing the best, most informative ballistics videos available. Peace, -Yogi
Good to see you back here!
Great to see you back on TH-cam. I love your videos. I saw the annotation at the end. I hope that I'm misreading.
jardo531 Your eyes are good, it wasn't a misread. Thanks
Sorry to hear you're stepping away from doing the ammo tests we all enjoy watching. Thanks for all the great videos and good luck in your future endeavors.
Wow, somebody is going to have some big shoes to fill. One of the best, if not the best, ballistics channels on you tube. We're all gonna miss ya!
Good to see you back. Glad you are feeling better. I have missed your work.
Very well done, always a pleasure to have you educate....
Thank you for all your ammo tests, you had the best testing of ammo on youtube, I will miss seeing your tests, it played a big part in my carry ammo.
Godspeed.
glad to see you, understood that you may have been a little busy with other things since your illness. take care!
TNO-
I just wanted to thank you for all the hard work. time and expense you've put into these videos. I know that I've learned a lot from them.
I'm sure people will continue to benefit from the archives
Wishing you the best of luck with everything in real life and thanks again!
You are looking very healthy glad to see you are posting again. Looking forward to some more tests!
Great to have you making videos again. Hope all is well health wise .
Thank you for the video. Your videos are the first I look for and watch. When I saw that you posted a 9 mm test I became excited because my wife just gave me a Browning hi power for my birthday a few days ago. After watching your video I understand that your ending your work on ballistic testing. I have been watching you channel for a few years and I believe that I saw almost all of them including the wet pack. I want to thank you for all you have done. Thanks for the money, time, work and all the unseen effort you have spent on this project and all the knowledge that has come from your work. Your testing has changed all my views on ammunition and I and everyone I know now carries the best ammo that we can get because of your tests. I wish you and yours the best. My wife and I will miss Bigfoot Santa Claus and your no nonsense professionalism. Thank you RJL
Really enjoy your videos, hope you are feeling better... good to see you back on.
Missed your vids, glad you are back. Lots of info in short time frame...
Thanks for your continued contributions to the community.
I am really going to miss seeing your videos, it was one of the few places I could get real no BS info about ammo. Best of luck to you in whatever you do and thank you for all the great info you have given us.
Yet another great bid from you. Always enjoy your videos. Sad to read that your not going to be making more, but do understand. Good luck and God bless you and yours
Here we are in the future!! I have a box of that Winchester!! I also carry Hornady Critical Defense and another plus gold dots and some Winchester 147 grain
Nicely done as expected from such a professional. It is good to see you back and making the definitive tests on the ammo. Thanks!
Really happy to see ya back !!! I hope all is well with yur heath ,Gerry
Excellent video. I am running way behind on watching your videos. It is great to see you posting videos again. I sure do enjoy your ballistics tests videos. My favorite is the Winchester PDX1.
Best ammo review videos on line I am happy to see you are on going thank you for what you do
Great to see you get back in the swing of things. I appreciate the work you do, and honestly, your videos are of incalculable importance for members of society that carry.
Great format & video! Most folks can't put that amount of data into an hour, let alone 8min!
As for the Golden Sabre. DocGKR has actually said that he likes the GS for its cutting profile, as cutting causes more permanent wounds than crushing. I wouldn't feel bad carrying the bonded, especially in .38 where ammo makes all the difference.
From what I read down the comments, I'll be sad to see you go but happy you're making the right choice for yourself and family. Thank you for all the information and entertainment you've provided and best of luck in all that you do. Much love and respect from a fellow Tennessean!
Life has a way of getting in the way of things you love doing, doesn't it. Sorry to see you go, as you were my, and many others, go-to channel for finding new and different types of ammo to carry. You instilled confidence for many of us in the type of ammo we carry because of the time and cash you put into your videos. You enlightened us about something most of us are unable to test on our own. You made what was a seemingly impossible and endless decision into sometimes an easier one, and many times you made it much harder (not a bad thing at all!). Again, thank you so much, and we all look forward to the day that you upload another video, as your no bull shit, facts only information is something that is hard to come by.
Best,
Phil
Best test site anywhere, thank you for your work and sharing the info.
Good to see you back, TN!
It would totally ruin the bad guy's day getting hit by either one of these rounds. Great video! 👍👍
I have been looking for another video from you. I miss not seeing your scientific approach. Very well done as always. Documentation of all of the variables is always classy. I like all three and I have used all three. I especially use PDX in my Bond derringer.
Glad to see you looking like your old self. I will miss your vids. All the best to you and your family.
Good video and good to see you make them again! Been wanting to you test the PDX1 124 +p for awhile and now I feel good about getting them!
Thanks for all of the effort and hard work that you have put into your videos. I've watched and enjoyed them all. I took a break from shooting and hunting for a few years because of my career and personal life. I then discovered you and Hickok45 on TH-cam. I remembered what I was missing and started shooting up a storm. You will be missed.
Nice work. Like we talked before, I agree with you about the Golden Saber. You do not find too many people using it or at admit to it, but the ones that I've met that do swear by them. Again, Great video.
Glad to see you putting video back can't wait for next one I have always like all your videos you do
Very sorry to see you go, thank you for all your hard work over the years producing what are IMHO the best ammo test videos on youtube. Best of luck!
Always great to see you up here. Great vid. Great format. I hope you are doing well.
Glad to see you're "back in business". I've really been missing your ammo tests. Keep 'em coming! I like your new format. It saves time and gets more relevant information across. Thanks for all you do.
Your channel was different from the others, it was unique and they were always entertaining. Sad to see this is the next to last video but I'll say say thanks for all the hard work that you put into this channel over the years.
Great video. I like this format, but liked the old one fine too. Many thanks for the night shots; muzzle flash is always a factor to consider. Interestingly, the old Silvertip would often hit 1200 fps or a touch more out of barrels longer than 4" (think High Power or P38, or now a 9mm 1911. We appreciate all the work u do on our behalf. STAY SAFE!!
Thanks, always happy to see your data. And looking forward to more vids in the future.
excellent glad to see you back and doing well
Very well produced. Good apples to apples comparison.
Good to see you back out there! Keep those vids coming along!
Sorry to hear that you are not going to make more videos. I have to say however that you have created a great resource that I use often, looking back at your past videos and I anticipate continuing to use it in the future. Thanks for the time and effort you've put in to it. Especially going to miss Bigfoot's appearances!
Good to see you back doing tests.
Wasn't it Sgt. Friday sho said "Just the facts ma'am."? I like the format. Thanks for the vid.
Clear gel this gel I don't care just happy to see you back, best ammo reviews I have found. Hope all is going well and your making a full recovery best regards from NC.
Great video, no fluff, just the facts. I'm very sorry to hear that you aren't putting out any more content soon. I'm sure we all understand that it is time consuming and you have to put your family and career first. You're my favourite firearms channel and I'll be sorry to see you go. Shoutouts to sturmgewehre, carnik con and of course hickok45.
Good to have you back making great videos again.
I was excited to see you were back, then really bummed to hear you were going to be ending the series for good. Thanks for all you have done and all the great info, your vids will be missed very much. Your tests were my favorite ammo reviews. Best of luck!
Hope the next one is not really your last. I really enjoy your videos. They are some of the most informative out there.
Outstanding! Great to see you back brother!
Glad to see you back. I miss your videos. I hope your health is doing better. You are one of my favorite YT channels. Looking forward to seeing bigfoot sometime in the future.
3 Great tests & good to see you back doing your thing.
Sorry to hear that the channel is coming to an end. Take care my friend! All your work was greatly appreciated!
Good video. Nice to see you doing what we all love to see.
Hate to hear that you aren't going to be doing more videos. Thanks for all the uploads. I have enjoyed them.
Nice vid! Can't wait until the 4 round test coming up next.
glad to see you again. hope youre feeling better.
Good to see ya again Tommy, you're looking alot better. I hope all is well
tnoutdoors9, you do the best ammo test videos. I find them to be the most thorough, scientific and to the point. You have given us so much information to use to make informed decisions on carry ammo, instead of having to rely on BS marketing and rumors. Although we cannot pay you back for all of the effort you have put into your work here, know that what you have done is very much appreciated and a real asset to the gun carrying community. Thank you for all that you have done, and best wishes to you and yours.
Mr. TNoutdoors. Thank you for this video. I was wondering where your videos have been lately. Youre quality and entertainment value is on par with the likes of Hickok and all the other "A" list youtubers. Definitely one of my favorite channels.
Great video, is really informative. When I have time I like to watch your old format. But the new format is great for when I am short on time and just want the "meat and potatoes" or the review.
Sad to see you go. Was hoping in particular for some more sabot slug testing. Thanks for everything you've put up.
I'm among the many who have really enjoyed and learned from your videos - your serious attention to detail and occasional wacky sense of humor have been one of the high points of TH-cam for me. You have done good work and I will stay subbed just in case. BTW - when I first stumbled on your channel, I kept reading it as Troutdoors9 and wondered if it was a fishing channel. Thanks again, and I'll be watching for occasional popups on certain Nashville region channels...
I've been a subscriber from the beginning and I'll be sad to see you go but want to thank you for all of the content that you have produced over the years. It has been a valuable addition to the information I have looked at to inform my ammo purchase decisions. Good luck with all your future endeavors!
Great video as always. Definitely bummed to see that you will be doing your last video, but I completely understand. God bless, brother.
You're looking so much healthier! Rock on!
Happy to see your videos popping up in my feed again! Great video, I liked the format.
Nice to see you're reviewing ammo again. Your will be missed and I hope to see you in your other endeavors.
TN, thank you for what you have done in service of the firearms community, and of freedom itself. All the best in your future endeavors.