International Harvester Travelette VS. Travelall ? different or the same ????
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- I try to explain the differences between the International travelette and travelall in this episode and tell the history and story of my personal Truck. Also Lucy makes a few photo bombs that I didnt catch until the editing room. It was a fun day, enjoy!
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The Chevy thing ? Might you be talking about the Suburban that started back in 1936. If yes it been around a tiny bit longer than the Cornbinder Travelall that started in 1953.
Travelette is to keep half your stuff dry without a camper and the travel all is meant to keep safe and dry all the way through.
Man , I didn't know I could come up with so many questions ( phew ) , thanks for answering them all !
Loved story time with Ben. Great stories behind your vehicles, I enjoyed hearing about them. Hope you're successful in selling your vehicles, then you can buy more! Good to see another video up from you. Stay safe and GOD bless
My first 4x4 experience was when I was about a freshman in high school. My had an early '70s IH Travelall that he'd bought as a work vehicle for his materials testing lab. (Testing soil, concrete, asphalt, etc. It spent a lot of time on construction sites.) I went with him one summer afternoon to go help a bunch of people who'd gotten stuck in mud trying to leave my grandparents' church camp in the mountains. There were cars and 2wd trucks stuck in the shallow ditches on both side of the road. We got to the first stuck vehicle and dad hooked up a chain between it and the Travelall and drove into the ditch on the other side of the road. I knew for sure we'd be stuck. I was wrong, lol. He drove straight through the ditch and up the other side like it was nothing. It was at that moment I understood the allure of having four wheel drive. We worked our way though a half dozen or so vehicles until we made it to the camp, and the Travelall didn't even break a sweat. I've subsequently owned at least one 4x4 vehicle for most of my adult life.
Question....... on the truck version's have u all ever custom made a ( mega-cab like the newer dodge rigs have )....where a spare tire & tools & fold up type chairs can go w/o taking any rear seat room....... or do u all ever plan too to your own rig's or the customer's rig's............ if u have what will be a basic price 4 it all done to match like the factory cab's....... ( $$$ money & time wise ) roughly there............ I'M LOOKING VERY VERY 4 WARD IN FOLLOWING U ALL WHILE U ALL MAKE THIS HAPPEN ........ IF U ALL EVER DO ..............?????????????
When I was in high school back in the 80s I worked at a shell station with a guy that drove a late 50 early 60 international panel truck that his father had driven all over the world he even had a story about the truck traveling across Africa when the truck was almost new. His father was a archeologist and it served as the lead expedition truck that he lived out of.
she did jump in the rear of the truck, did a photobomb, and then got down. So cute.
Good to see you back, Ben. Very informative and interesting stories. Sometime it would be nice if you gave us a similar talk on the binder gas tank and filler locations. I see some filers at the back of cab and some at the front fenders (both right and left). Would be nice to learn the differences and what models came with what. Always enjoy your vids! Please keep them coming!
I prefer the standard metal door panels. Looks cooler.
See this is why we need you back, for truck stories
YOu should do more of these videos ... and .. dog .. could use a ride everytime you spend 20 minues in a truck going nowhere !!!
Travelette family and tools Travelall family and friends and tools kept dry
The Chevrolet Suburban is the longest running nameplate in automotive history.
Although the squarebodied Suburban was debuted in the 70’s, Chevrolet has been offering a truck based wagon they called the Suburban Carryall since the mid 30’s. It was available with 4WD by the mid 50’s, and continued to evolve with their trucks through the years. I very nearly, and still wish I had, bought a mostly restored ‘68 Suburban a couple years back.
I remember at one point, the Suburbans were only 3 doors. :)
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@@rickmarshall808 Yes and so were the Travelalls. But in ‘69 International modernized their design and added the 4th door. Chevy/GMC didn’t do so until 1974.
Great video. I had two 73 Travelalls in the late 70's. Lived in the Adirondack's.with tons of snow. Had two wheel drive and drove thru snow bumper deep no problem. In the spring the exhaust system started coming off from mounts. Also had a 73 International 0ne ton pu with 4 wheel drive for plowing snow. Great vehicles, but salt ate them up in less then 10 years.
There was a Travelall sitting in our crazy old neighbor's backyard for decades.
Rainy day
Just ran across your channel
Love the content
Love the shop
Even though I am older
As a reminder
I can be adopted.....
Turns out I too was at the IH fall rally
Perhaps next year I will say hi
Are any of those trucks in daily driver shape? I do landscaping and am looking at old trucks that are 3/4 or 1 ton with 4x4. I am interested in any info or which of the trucks might work. I tried the contact on the website but it wasn't working.
Dude! Totally Stealing my idea! Haha I been looking for a early crew cab for landscaping after seeing the Travelette I have to have one (Steel door panels haha)
BUILD SERIES OF YOU FINISHING YOUR TRAVELETTE
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A travel all is built way better than a Chevrolet suburban...!!!!
Too bad international doesn't build pickup trucks...
A always believed that Ford, Chevrolet and dodge could not built a truck as tough as an international truck...!!!
But what do I know... I'm just a keyboard warrior...!!!
Beautiful absolutely gorgeous rigs, where did the the aluminum diamond plate radiator that was in the customer's rig come from ???
I truly enjoy the stories behind every truck you talk about...!!!!
I'm kinda hoping to see a camper on your Travelette, ha ha ha. I had a 1967 TravelALL that was quite rusty - the handbrake was stuck solid. One winter day I hit some slushy snow and this lump exploded under the rubber mat beside the gas pedal.
When I was a boy and my dad worked at IH in Springfield, Ohio my parents bought a new '66 Travelall, sold it to my uncle when they bought a new '68 Travelall, and sold that to my Godparents when they bought a new '70 Travelette with a full bed and put a camper on it. I never knew it as a Travelette though until a few years ago when I heard the name - my folks always just called it a six passenger pickup and boy they were rare in private owners hands back then unlike today when almost all pickups have four doors. Like you, Ben, I'm partial to the Travelalls and Travelettes though I haven't owned one since the late '70's.
I really enjoyed this Ben. I love the back stories on anyone’s hot rod, truck, restoration, etc. Now, fire up the heaters and get to work.
N ice " Travel all is long rigid rig , commonly known as SUV Carrier, I liked it personally the Travel all . Okay ! . then when it comes to Travelettes , it a long rigid rid too , but when it comes travelettes it's a long Pickup with four and a long Pickup bed . Travelettes I liked it too in second ! . Once second thanks a lots to helping us to maked the differences ! . I liked yours it's a Travelettes for instance, if I am not mistaken ! . Once second thanks again ! . .
Hey! Why didn't you talk about the Wagonmaster? The cross between the two?
Both the Travelette and the Travelall would make great camping rigs . I would put a utility bed on the Travelette to store gear in tents grills etc. nice video . 🙂
Just to toss a wrench in things…how about the travelall with the attached bed….
The Wagonmaster. It was a Travelall with the top cut off behind the rear seat and a pickup window welded in place to close it in. I put instrument panels in the Travelall from 72 thru 75 on second shift. I had the driver side and Doug Skinner did the passenger side, we ran a unit every three minutes. My station was the only one who had a line stop button if we had any issues. Good times and money when IH wasn't on strike which seemed like often. My first two years I hung the steel door panel on the pickup line.
I have a travelall with same exact grill as your personal truck parked outside your shop.I thought mine was 1970? Mine IH is 4x4 manual 345 v8. I have a badge on front fender that says “all wheel drive”
I always wondered what they badge referred too? Is it like a jeep Quadratac?
That front end seems to have been borrowed by Rivian.
Funny, rivian is 50 yrs behind IH , I think you mean the other way around.
In the Philippines, ive' seen a Travelete truck a 1961 year model parked at the US Embassy in Manila...in the year 1990. I asume it could be still running up to now.."
I have a 1969 1300 2500 original miles Barn kit four-wheel-drive red I wonder if anyone would be interested
How about the difference between a traveler and a travel all? I had a very nice traveler in the mid 90s. Miss it...
I wouldn't mind trading my 2016 suburban for a 1970 travelette 4x4.
Good friend of mine has his grandpa's 75 international he bought new vary low mileage truck having rear end problems will tell him about swapping rear ends thanks for the info
The rebuild is so far better than any newer truck, no electronics to break down or give trouble.
I prefer the Traveler's... Lol
In the 90's I had 3 of them and 3 Scout II's and they all had Western snow plows on them. My buddy Bruce (Yes Bruce and He had a buddy Bruce) had 4 Scout II's and one Traveler. He also had 2 Chevy and a Ford. The Scouts were all 75-78's mostly 76 and 77's.
We had our own Plow service here in Indiana and they were cheap back then. All had 345's( I think ) but One... It was the traveler and it had a Chrysler/Nissan 6 cylinder diesel in it. You would think it being a diesel it would have a ton of power, Nope! It was a dog and slow but it would push snow up to a point and just stop moving... Lol It had a Bosh started that looked like it was for a jet engine and one day it would not crank the engine. Went to the Harvester plant in Indy ( which we later found out that was where the truck cam from! ) at the time and they said $4,000 bucks! Damn, I almost passed out!
The issue was the brushes were bad and was made on this plate in the starter and was not available as it was a development engine. So we left with no started... Lol
You see the brushes were not replaceable as the braid was fused/spot welded to the holders, that were welded to the plate but that was not going to stop us Hoosier boys... Lol
The next day I went to my local Napa guy and we spent a hour going through all his brush sets to find something that I could make work. We found something that was close but he ordered some others and one of them was so close I made them work and we had a starter again. After 30 years I don't remember what it was for I think they were for a Mack Model R starter, once again not sure... Lol
Most of the trucks were held together bailing wire and 4x4 posts literally as most of them had no cab supports or rear/mid supports rotted away. The Scouts were great trucks and the chassis's were awesome but the body's were rust buckets. 15 years later we sold the whole lot and the company. Several times I wish I had kept the one I drove all the time. But at last, I did not, I have regretted it for years.
Back then folks would not give you $10 bucks for one and look at them now... Lol
Awesome show!
LLAP 🖖
Man I’d love to find a travelette like a dream truck
Great story, Ben. When you were telling the story of the stolen parts, crossed my mind that you were one of the teens that stole them, sold them and knew where to go to steal them back. 😆
Or else the "scrap" the kids sold just hung around where they sold it, or Ben caught up to it.
Do you have a wagonmaster ? Ps the travelette was the first quad cab pickup on the market which is pretty cool,and The big 3 sure did love stealing ideas from international .
Hey Ben !!! Don't know how long Casey's ""Rollback "" will be down so think you guys should load up the " Green Forest Ranger 4 X 4 "" on your International & take it to the Wrecker Olympics in March !! Thanks for the explanation of the differences in the 2 "ALLS"" !! HAHA 🤔🙄🙄👀👀👍👍👍👍👍
Ones a truck,.ones an SUV/tuck based wagon
Travel all is shorter
Both are awesome
Hey Ben, what part of Montana you in? I live in the Flathead valley, just curious. Love the over attention to detail!!!! People always give me crap for being over attentive on my projects. Always enjoy your work
Not a shameless plug at tall But thats also ur buisness an how ya make your funds as well But remember Bens Travelette is Not For Sale
Dude! is that a Twisted Customs Buggy in the background? I Just sold mine last fall.
Are IH lovers interested in 68 travels the 68 travellet a sought after vehicle?
Travelette= Lette's you haul big stuff. Travelall= All enclosed
Take a look at a 67 Suburban, sure looks like a Square Body. I love internationals, but lets be honest, Suburbans can be traced back to 1934. I remember a 67 C60 Truck that had metal door panels. :) Suburbans and Travelalls are wagons on steroids.
What were the international trucks that were crew cab, short bed "trucks" that didn't have detached beds? You know like the honda ridgeline or these new little santa cruz grocery getters you see today.
sorry about this its not really all u but every american car channel on utube says they drug whatever out of somewhere the word is dragged drug is not the past tense of drag .thanks got that off my chest
Back in the late 60s neighbor had a 2nd travelall he bought new pulled his fishing boat with it
Travelall was my first vehicule it was a1971 v8 304
The yellow Traveall should be yours and Casey's ride for the March trip. Should get a magnetic sign for the door to advertise your garage?
Love hearing your Thoughts Truck Story
Loved watching and listening to your story's!
MY INTERNATIONAL TRAVELALL 1971-1974 WAS BUILT AS A AMBULANCE.
Tell the truth Ben it wasn't cold outside you really couldn't stand the smell of the newly found septic tank is why you went inside.
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We had a round hood Travalette 2x4 at my fire station. It was a Forestry loan whicn means it came from the military. Our AFB had many of these since we had the Titan II missile silos. We used that truck as our trash truck. I loved driving it to the dump. I learned to drive on my uncles single cab IHC pickup and wish I would have bought it at his sale. I know where an old 62 or 63 Scout is setting in the weeds. It is a 2x4 so I did not buy it years ago. I have been thinking of getting it and get the kids to rebuild it at school. It is probably too expensive to upgrade it to 4x4.
Is the barn door travelall rare? I don't see many of them. I have a 70 travelall myself with the barn door rear.
The one that looks a lot like a suburban is the travel all. The pickup version is a 4 door.
I have a 1964 Travelette 1100 that I purchased 20 plus yrs ago as a 2wd half ton and converted to a 3/4 ton 4wd I used a dodge front axle and an international rear and converted to four wheel disc brakes
Travelett/ pickup...travel-all suburban 👍🇺🇸
dodge also had the carry all, made for the military started in 1941 ;)
We had a ‘69 Travelall that my Dad brought brand new in ‘69. It was a great truck but rust killed in only 6 years (we live in Michigan). We did not get A/C but we did have the deluxe interior. Ours was 2WD, Automatic, Pwr Brks. It became the primary transporter of our Marching Band’s big Drums!!
Good video Ben. I like them all. What is the difference between Scout and Scout ii and Scout 800
One of them is a wagon...? Or a plane. I'm confused.
IH Wagonmaster...
Pick up vs. Wagon
Thank you for the video.
Ben you need to do more videos and some working on the trucks to
I wished IH would go back to making light trucks
I got some International bucket seats you can have, shhhhh he knows there isn't such a thing. Just commenting to help the algorythem.
I had a 66 travelette that belonged to Weyrhauser lumber as a crew truck back in the day.. I kept it til 2003.. it was completely rusted out and beat to pieces when I sold it
Pretty simple, one's the Station Wagon, the other is a Pick up, thanks for sharing, and spending the time to explain, yours is a nice looking truck/Ute ,all the best to you and your loved ones
So far I have learned travelette are under offer travelall is sold and up for repair, so buy a jeep or a chevy because they're ready to go 😋🤦♀
Dana 44 front axle and a 14 bolt rear axle, what were you thinking? Is this a mall cruiser?
Maybe in a couple years I'll have some money saved up and I can get a travelall from you. If I get a truck I don't mind working on it to make it run better. I love to car camp and I love the reliability of old vehicles. My Grandpa started with international rigs too so I have a thing for internationals.
TH-cams buffering is killing this for me.
I'm mistaken dad's was an old dodge prospector.
The travelall looks more similar to the 67-72 suburban to me.
I like em all.
I daily a square body burb.
Nice workmanship on the video, good flow & fun. & still love the stories, looking forward to you adding to them, both the stories & the trucks! Thanx !
Thanks for the overview. This has been quite nostalgic for me since I have been interested in Travelall's since my parents were trying to choose between an early 70's model and a '72 3 door Suburban in 1975 to upgrade from our '63 F-250 with a walk-in cover, benches, and a boot from the cab. I was rooting for the Travelall, but our business had a good year, so they splurged and ordered a brand new '76 3/4 ton Suburban that they had for over 20 years. We owned a service station and were "Ford" people and got teased about having a Chevy. Just before my dad died in 1990, he discovered the Centurion C-150/350 "Four Door Broncos" and searched to be able to finally be able to have his Ford "Suburban/Travelall". He didn't live long enough to fulfill his dream, but I was able to by owning a '89 Magnum Bronco, a '94 Centurion C-150, a '94 Centurion C-350 diesel (which I still own), and a '00 diesel Excursion. Hopefully my family will treasure the memories of our trips in these as much as I did in my parent's Suburban.
Do you sell parts to Canada I have a 74 need a tailgate
Where can I find a stock am antenna for my 73 travellette
Your trucks looks good and I see just how awesome it can look when you finish it. I recently found out about International Harvester pickup trucks here on youtube and it is now one of my favorites. I thought International Harvester only made farm equipment. I like the travelette crew cab the most and I hope to own one. But in the meantime I have created a 3D version of the travelette that I will be uploading to my channel soon. I came to your 406garage website to look at travelettes to get the details right for my 3D version.
Easy, one ends with an “ette,” and the other, “al.”
Nice try Ben, but Chevy Suburban has been around since 1935 18 years before the Travelall came along
Talk all you want, I've heard the story and I still watched the whole thing. I always enjoy looking at those trucks and hearing the storied. One of these day I'll get one, or three.
Through the years l've found more confusion in people calling Scout Travelers a Travelall!
I want one but need to be able to drive it home to Louisiana.
My uncle had a 56 and 61 Travelall when I was a kid,
The way Lucy jumps into ALL trucks........
You could get someone to stitch puppy paws on the lower cushion seats !
🤔 😁
Great video, I would love to have either a travelette, or a travel all, I watch you religiously hoping to see one in good shape.
I could feel the Casey vibe. I love the stories of the trucks. Yours is a real beaut.
I used to have a IH called a Wagonmaster, the truck in-between the Travelall and the Travelette. Have you ever heard of the Wagonmaster or had one? I think it was an interesting bit of IH history and might make a good video. Mine had the deluxe options 392 auto and all the rust International was known for. I always liked the odd vehicles, IH, Jeeps and Pontiacs. Good job keeping the cornbinders alive.
FINALLY, you refreshed my memory of the Wagonmaster. It was a Travelall with the top cut off behind the rear seat and a pickup window welded in place to close it in. I put instrument panels in the Travelall from 72 thru 75 on second shift. I had the driver side and Doug Skinner did the passenger side, we ran a unit every three minutes. My station was the only one who had a line stop button if we had any issues. Good times and money when IH wasn't on strike which seemed like often.
I own 1 of each; '71 1210 T'all and '66 1100A T'ette. The Travelall is 2WD, PS, PB, Auto, 392 and really rusty.
The Travelette is 2WD, 4 spd, 304 with a short-wide box, 140" WB.. It has the usual cowl rot that I am trying to determine how to deal with. The rest of the truck is straight with very little rust. I have decided to move forward with making it drivable and will just drive it in dry weather. The original owner resided in California and had the rear overload springs removed, along with the radio and antenna. The antenna mount is still in the fender with the whip removed. Also removed was the heater and the 3.73 powerlock rear axle. I am not sure yet what rear axle is in it yet. I have the original LST with the removed items crossed off.
th-cam.com/video/jeQkcrRLTXY/w-d-xo.html this guy has some interesting ways of dealing with rust, if you have a mig and a grinder it’s not really that hard.
Yes,good video, interesting etc great stories
I always thought that internationals had thicker metal when they built their trucks to make them more durable.
That was the best it was not to long and I can't wait to hear the next one if there are any.