That is a good question, the 4xe is the heaviest Jeep due to the hybrid drivetrain so I'm not sure if it's a weight issue or what? Thanks for the view!
Yes with a Rubicon due to the high clearance fenders you can clear 37's with the Mopar 2in lift. Sport, Willys, and Sahara trim levels can clear 35's with the Mopar 2in due to the lower fenders. Thanks for the view!
I am buying a Rubicon 4xe. Do you know much ground clearance will I gain with just the 2 inch mopar lift and stock tires? I don't want bigger tires, just more ground clearance for off road use.
Under with axle clearance will remain the same due to the stock tires, but bumper and chassis clearance should add roughly 2in with the lift only, some guys report getting closer to 2.5-3in with the Mopar lift. Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotterThanks for the reply. I just did a 3 inch lift on my Ram Rebel, I noticed that in the independent front suspension, I gained a true 3 in lift including the axle clearance, to get that on a solid axle I would need to put 37 inch tires on! Too bad the rear suspension is not independent like the front. 😀 Now I understand how the new Land Rovers can do so well with out big tires.
Hi boss very informative….. could you please tell us how many types of mopar kits available for jeep please ( I mean 2 inch , 3.5 inch , 4 inch ) and which one the best …. What is the difference please
Mopar only offers a 2in lift for the JL wranglers and gladiators. There are different part numbers for the lift depending on what engine is equip in the Jeep though. Thanks for the view!
No off-road videos of this one as it was put together for a customer, I will try to watch for it if it comes into the shop and look at this MPG for you. Thanks for the view!
I would love to try that, they should be the tallest factory springs available. It would be really interesting to install them on a 2 door or 4 door non 4xe to see how much lift would be gained. Thanks for the view!
When you do lifts, how do you correct the speedometer to work correctly with new tires? Do you have a cost effective recommendation to getting this issue resolved?
@@TylerPotter hi can i ask you a question how your dealer ship agree to calibrate speedometer for you few dealer ship from my location they don't argee to do that so i have to do by myself with tazer mini , that's why my rubicon with 3'5 lift and 35's use tazer and my wife rubicon 4xe keep stock doesn't lift or even change to bigger tires , i feel stock jeep have good drive and no issue like my gas rubicon and both my jeep are jl thank you bro
@@trinhlee4056 it is a Mopar tire size calibration. I'm not sure why your dealership is unaware of it? We do a lot of lifts so maybe we are used to doing them. Thanks for the view!
@@trinhlee4056 it is a Mopar tire size calibration. I'm not sure why your dealership is unaware of it? We do a lot of lifts so maybe we are used to doing them. Thanks for the view!
No spacers added it just has the Mopar 2in lift installed. You could defiantly add track bars to the lift if you would like as the axles are slightly off center with the lift but it is not totally necessary. Thanks for the view!
On the Sahara I would recommend 35's since it does not have the Rubicon high fenders. I recently did a 4xe Rubicon with 35's in this video. Thanks for the view! th-cam.com/video/tXz5MmS3cQA/w-d-xo.html
Hey Tyler... hoping to get a little more advice specifically pertaining to this video. Aside from the Mopar lift, what other upgrades would you suggest for 37s on a 4xe? I've seen so many other videos of people just going on and on for endless upgrades required for 37s. What other upgrades would you suggest for a 4xe with 37s? Is re-gearing even a thing for 4xe's? Brakes? Axles? Ball joints? Planning really only for 15-20% off-road/overlanding/tahoe... Thanks again for your videos.
We have done a lot of Jeep's (and a few 4XE's) with the Mopar lift and 37's and with the 8 speed they still move down the road great. With as many as we have done I would think if we were going to have ball joint or axle issues we would have seen them by now since we have been lifting JL's since 2018. If it were mine I think I would be leaving brakes, axles, ball joints stock. ect. we just really haven't seen any issues. I would be doing some sort of tire carrier/tailgate reinforcement though. Thanks for the view!
77072522AB This should be the correct part number but please double check with a dealership parts department to make sure there isn't a newer number available per your vin number. Thanks for the view!
I've heard that if you ran 37s on a normal wrangler, you'd have to re-gear your transmission. Since this has an electric drivetrain, I'm assuming you don't have to worry about that?
We have done a lot of 2.0's and 3.6's with 37's and stock gearing and they still seem to drive great down the road. Now would they accelerate even better with a re-gear sure but the 8-speed transmission just works really well even with stock gears. Thanks for the view!
Just the Mopar 2in was installed and I unfortunately can't speak on the off-roading question as it was a customer's Jeep and not my personal. If I see the Jeep come in for service I will defiantly ask though! Thanks for the view!
Another great video. I have wheels that are -6mm offset and about 4.75 inches of backspacing. Would you suggest spacers if I were to go with 37s (probably BFG KO2s)? And yes, I do have the Mopar 2" lift. Thanks!
I bet with the -6mm you would be ok without spacers, but you could always add spacers later after you wanted more clearance but we have ran 37's on stock Rubicon wheels and been ok also. Thanks for the view!
JL is the body model designation for the new Jeep Wranglers. and U means Unlimited and in the Wrangler world that means 4 door and the R stands for the trim Rubicon. Thanks for the view!
Yes, we have done A LOT of Rubicon JL/JT's with the Mopar 2in lift and 37's. As long as they are the 8 speed automatic they still drive great down the highway. (the manual is another story) Now would a re-gear make them even more powerful, absolutely but so far we have never had a JL or JT customer (with the 8 speed auto) ever come back complaining about power. Thanks for the view!
I believe the lift is currently $1695 through Mopar, the labor free if installing your self or if having a shop install it, it would vary depending on the shop labor rate. I think our shop is around 700-800ish for the labor. Thanks for the view!
Great review man! Just wondering is there any difference in the handling after the 2” lift + 37 tires? Also, many lifted Jeep cannot run straight, you have to constantly correct the direction, does this happen on this build?
With the Mopar lift and the corrected caster angle they really do still drive great. Now bigger larger tires will sometimes cause a little more of a wonder compared to stock but even with the mopar 2in and a good balanced set of 37's they can still drive very straight down the road. Thanks for the view!
No still stock gearing, with the 8 speed transmission the 35's and 37's really don't seem to phase it, it still accelerates great. Thanks for the view!
What you said about the lift options is not true at all. Almost every suspension company offers specific kits and springs depending on 2-4 doors, v6, diesel, or 4xe. Just wanted people watching this to know that you don’t have to go with the over priced mopar lift to get the correct lift. I just ordered a 4” lift for my eco diesel and it was specifically for the eco diesel. Also slightly more expensive but not much.
That was at least true information as of a year or 2 ago I have not checked current lifts. We just see a lot of aftermarket lifts come into the dealership with missing or incorrect parts and pieces that end up costing the customer more in the long run.
@@TylerPotter thanks for clarifying. I just wanted people to know that they could look into other options. The mopar lift is incredibly basic and over priced. There are a ton of better options at the same if not less cost.
did you need to add a adjustable track bar? I just did the 2 in mopar lift on mine and the service department said it needs one cuz she's not sitting right. so now I gotta get a after market one asap.
It is defiantly not required, we have done 100+ Jeep lifts without replacement of the trackbar. Yes a few people have brought in there own for us to put on but you can 100% reuse the factory trackbars with no issue.
@@TylerPotter I work for jeep in sales so I'm gonna go see why our service can't figure it out tmw morning. the spring isn't sitting right and rubbing. my 4xe is the first one we are doing here on Maui.
@@chandelledavenport1164 It sounds like they did not install the new lower spring isolators that come with the lift kit or if they did install the spring isolators they installed them on the wrong side as they are marked left and right, also the springs are marked left and right in the instructions, they also could incorrectly install the spring into the lower spring isolator and cause it to sit crooked. Pending all of that is installed correctly the springs should be nice and straight with no need for a aftermarket track bar I am worried that they have not installed things correctly
No drive shaft replacement with with JL Mopar 2in. The older Mopar JK 2in lift came with a replacement front u-joint style drive shaft though. Thanks for the view!
Never thought I's see a hybrid Jeep! It makes good sense though.
Pretty crazy Jeep line up with options from hybrid to 392 hemi! Thanks for the view!
Great video. What's the overall rooftop height on yours? I'm doing the Mopar 2" lift and adding 35" KO2s. I'm hoping mine will still fit in my garage!
Grate video! Do you know why jeep 4xe with mopar 2” lift, seats lower than regular jeep? I mean the clearance is less, specially in the back side
That is a good question, the 4xe is the heaviest Jeep due to the hybrid drivetrain so I'm not sure if it's a weight issue or what? Thanks for the view!
Hi - Question … what is the range you are getting on ALL ELECTRIC with the 37s and lifted?
That is a good question, if the Jeep comes back in to the shop I will ask the owner and let you know. Thanks for the view!
So you can run 37s with just the Mopar 2inch lift? No additional modifications?
Yes with a Rubicon due to the high clearance fenders you can clear 37's with the Mopar 2in lift. Sport, Willys, and Sahara trim levels can clear 35's with the Mopar 2in due to the lower fenders. Thanks for the view!
I have a 4xe on 38” Patagonia’s with a 2.5” lift
Nice! That should work great! Thanks for the view!
How bad has the range been affected I’m thinking of doing the same?
I am buying a Rubicon 4xe. Do you know much ground clearance will I gain with just the 2 inch mopar lift and stock tires? I don't want bigger tires, just more ground clearance for off road use.
Under with axle clearance will remain the same due to the stock tires, but bumper and chassis clearance should add roughly 2in with the lift only, some guys report getting closer to 2.5-3in with the Mopar lift. Thanks for the view!
This is another pretty cool 4xe build I did recently.
th-cam.com/video/tXz5MmS3cQA/w-d-xo.html
@@TylerPotterThanks for the reply. I just did a 3 inch lift on my Ram Rebel, I noticed that in the independent front suspension, I gained a true 3 in lift including the axle clearance, to get that on a solid axle I would need to put 37 inch tires on! Too bad the rear suspension is not independent like the front. 😀 Now I understand how the new Land Rovers can do so well with out big tires.
Hi boss very informative….. could you please tell us how many types of mopar kits available for jeep please ( I mean 2 inch , 3.5 inch , 4 inch ) and which one the best …. What is the difference please
Mopar only offers a 2in lift for the JL wranglers and gladiators. There are different part numbers for the lift depending on what engine is equip in the Jeep though. Thanks for the view!
How did this perform off-road and how did effect gas milage? Do you have a off road video of this vehicle? I could not find one.
No off-road videos of this one as it was put together for a customer, I will try to watch for it if it comes into the shop and look at this MPG for you. Thanks for the view!
Tough to find correct info but thought on a takeoff 4xe suspension on a JLU?
I would love to try that, they should be the tallest factory springs available. It would be really interesting to install them on a 2 door or 4 door non 4xe to see how much lift would be gained. Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotter I’m assuming springs would fit, I wouldn’t think jeep would design then any differently
@@dustinm9862 Oh yeah the springs are the same design, they would swap right in.
When you do lifts, how do you correct the speedometer to work correctly with new tires? Do you have a cost effective recommendation to getting this issue resolved?
Mopar offers a speedometer recalibration from the dealership, you can program from 33" all the way to 40" with half inch steps. Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotter hi can i ask you a question how your dealer ship agree to calibrate speedometer for you few dealer ship from my location they don't argee to do that so i have to do by myself with tazer mini , that's why my rubicon with 3'5 lift and 35's use tazer and my wife rubicon 4xe keep stock doesn't lift or even change to bigger tires , i feel stock jeep have good drive and no issue like my gas rubicon and both my jeep are jl thank you bro
@@trinhlee4056 it is a Mopar tire size calibration. I'm not sure why your dealership is unaware of it? We do a lot of lifts so maybe we are used to doing them. Thanks for the view!
@@trinhlee4056 it is a Mopar tire size calibration. I'm not sure why your dealership is unaware of it? We do a lot of lifts so maybe we are used to doing them. Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotter thank you bro
Another great review. Again, would love to try one of these off-road in the mountains in electric only mode with it being all silent.
I ran Ophir Pass in all electric mode last week. It was pretty sweet.
@@Wrangler4XEFans i bet! subscribed! Will have to check out the videos.
It's a super cool feature for sure!
I did Trail #27 in Windrock Park in Electric Mode, was super cool being so quiet!
What’s the current MPG with the 37’s around town?
That's a good question, in my short drive it was in electric only mode about 90% of the time. Thanks for the view!
With the 37’s and the Mopar lift, did you have to replace the front and rear track bars? Also did you add any coil spring spacer leveling kits?
No spacers added it just has the Mopar 2in lift installed. You could defiantly add track bars to the lift if you would like as the axles are slightly off center with the lift but it is not totally necessary. Thanks for the view!
Awesome video! Do I need spacers if I go with factory wheels and 37s?
For a Rubicon no spacers are needed, but you can add them of you want the wider look. Thanks for the view!
This is nice. What would you recommend for the 4xe Sahara unlimited version? Lift and tires
On the Sahara I would recommend 35's since it does not have the Rubicon high fenders. I recently did a 4xe Rubicon with 35's in this video. Thanks for the view!
th-cam.com/video/tXz5MmS3cQA/w-d-xo.html
Hey Tyler... hoping to get a little more advice specifically pertaining to this video. Aside from the Mopar lift, what other upgrades would you suggest for 37s on a 4xe? I've seen so many other videos of people just going on and on for endless upgrades required for 37s. What other upgrades would you suggest for a 4xe with 37s?
Is re-gearing even a thing for 4xe's? Brakes? Axles? Ball joints? Planning really only for 15-20% off-road/overlanding/tahoe... Thanks again for your videos.
We have done a lot of Jeep's (and a few 4XE's) with the Mopar lift and 37's and with the 8 speed they still move down the road great. With as many as we have done I would think if we were going to have ball joint or axle issues we would have seen them by now since we have been lifting JL's since 2018. If it were mine I think I would be leaving brakes, axles, ball joints stock. ect. we just really haven't seen any issues. I would be doing some sort of tire carrier/tailgate reinforcement though. Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotter Thanks Tyler. Really appreciate the time you take to reply. Your videos have been extremely helpful.
No problem!
I want to buy this 2in Mopar lift kit specialized for 4Xe Rubicon, Would you please give me the part number or a link to buy this lift kit?
77072522AB This should be the correct part number but please double check with a dealership parts department to make sure there isn't a newer number available per your vin number. Thanks for the view!
Did you experience unstable driving with 37s, comparing to 33s?
No they really seem to drive great even with the 37's. Thanks for the view!
How does the 37's affect mileage per charge?
Yes they should cut down on the available miles since the engine is working harder to move the larger load. Thanks for the view!
I've heard that if you ran 37s on a normal wrangler, you'd have to re-gear your transmission. Since this has an electric drivetrain, I'm assuming you don't have to worry about that?
We have done a lot of 2.0's and 3.6's with 37's and stock gearing and they still seem to drive great down the road. Now would they accelerate even better with a re-gear sure but the 8-speed transmission just works really well even with stock gears. Thanks for the view!
Are these the - 12 offset wheels
I don't remember for sure and I would hate to give incorrect info. I'll try and look online for the wheels. Thanks for the view!
Can the rubicon 2.0 turbo engine run with 37 s with out any issues?
Yes we have lifted a lot of 2.0's with 35's and 37's they still move great down the road! Thanks for the view!
Range stock is 21-27 ,miles I love mine !
They really do drive great! Thanks for the view!
Nice video! 2 questions
1- did you add anything else(spacer) or it’s just 2” 4xe lift?
2- do you get enough clearance for off-roading with 37?
Just the Mopar 2in was installed and I unfortunately can't speak on the off-roading question as it was a customer's Jeep and not my personal. If I see the Jeep come in for service I will defiantly ask though! Thanks for the view!
Will/can it handle 40s?
That's a great question lol I'm sure it would move but the hybrid system would probably not love it! Thanks for the view!
Another great video. I have wheels that are -6mm offset and about 4.75 inches of backspacing. Would you suggest spacers if I were to go with 37s (probably BFG KO2s)? And yes, I do have the Mopar 2" lift. Thanks!
I bet with the -6mm you would be ok without spacers, but you could always add spacers later after you wanted more clearance but we have ran 37's on stock Rubicon wheels and been ok also. Thanks for the view!
What is JLUR?
JL is the body model designation for the new Jeep Wranglers. and U means Unlimited and in the Wrangler world that means 4 door and the R stands for the trim Rubicon. Thanks for the view!
Did you calibrate speedometer?
Yes Mopar offers factory speedometer calibration for JL's and DT RAM's, Thanks for the view!
@@TylerPotter Nice video! I want you try 0-60 acceleration if you can. Don’t forget to Put 4H auto and turn off the traction control.
Curious if rear seat delete like Goose Gear still works with the 4xe?
That's a good question, there is a pretty big bump in the floor with the seats folded down unlike the non hybrid jeeps.
Thanks for the view!
So you’re endorsing a mopar 2.5 lift kit with 37”s nothing else needed? No drive train mod? Not regearing? Just a oem lift with 37’s and good to go?
Yes, we have done A LOT of Rubicon JL/JT's with the Mopar 2in lift and 37's. As long as they are the 8 speed automatic they still drive great down the highway. (the manual is another story) Now would a re-gear make them even more powerful, absolutely but so far we have never had a JL or JT customer (with the 8 speed auto) ever come back complaining about power. Thanks for the view!
What are the costs involved in this lift, I am seriously on the fence about the purchase of a 4Xe if this is cost prohibitive.
I believe the lift is currently $1695 through Mopar, the labor free if installing your self or if having a shop install it, it would vary depending on the shop labor rate. I think our shop is around 700-800ish for the labor. Thanks for the view!
Great review man! Just wondering is there any difference in the handling after the 2” lift + 37 tires? Also, many lifted Jeep cannot run straight, you have to constantly correct the direction, does this happen on this build?
With the Mopar lift and the corrected caster angle they really do still drive great. Now bigger larger tires will sometimes cause a little more of a wonder compared to stock but even with the mopar 2in and a good balanced set of 37's they can still drive very straight down the road. Thanks for the view!
change the gearing?
No still stock gearing, with the 8 speed transmission the 35's and 37's really don't seem to phase it, it still accelerates great. Thanks for the view!
What you said about the lift options is not true at all. Almost every suspension company offers specific kits and springs depending on 2-4 doors, v6, diesel, or 4xe. Just wanted people watching this to know that you don’t have to go with the over priced mopar lift to get the correct lift. I just ordered a 4” lift for my eco diesel and it was specifically for the eco diesel. Also slightly more expensive but not much.
That was at least true information as of a year or 2 ago I have not checked current lifts. We just see a lot of aftermarket lifts come into the dealership with missing or incorrect parts and pieces that end up costing the customer more in the long run.
@@TylerPotter thanks for clarifying. I just wanted people to know that they could look into other options. The mopar lift is incredibly basic and over priced. There are a ton of better options at the same if not less cost.
did you need to add a adjustable track bar? I just did the 2 in mopar lift on mine and the service department said it needs one cuz she's not sitting right. so now I gotta get a after market one asap.
It is defiantly not required, we have done 100+ Jeep lifts without replacement of the trackbar. Yes a few people have brought in there own for us to put on but you can 100% reuse the factory trackbars with no issue.
@@TylerPotter I work for jeep in sales so I'm gonna go see why our service can't figure it out tmw morning. the spring isn't sitting right and rubbing. my 4xe is the first one we are doing here on Maui.
@@chandelledavenport1164 It sounds like they did not install the new lower spring isolators that come with the lift kit or if they did install the spring isolators they installed them on the wrong side as they are marked left and right, also the springs are marked left and right in the instructions, they also could incorrectly install the spring into the lower spring isolator and cause it to sit crooked.
Pending all of that is installed correctly the springs should be nice and straight with no need for a aftermarket track bar I am worried that they have not installed things correctly
@@chandelledavenport1164 If you wanted to fly me out to Maui I could defiantly take a look! lol
Dude you‘ve been talkin all the time, instead of showing the car 😒
I really need some camera crew lol Thanks for the view!
man I hate jeeps, toyota guy here!
but this hybrid has me really thinking about going to the dark side
It is really a cool set up and fun to drive, it will be interesting to see how they hold up with some miles on the drivetrain. Thanks for the view!
Jeep hybrid offroader? That just doesnt sound right
Hybrid rock crawling does sound weird lol Thanks for the view!
Did you have to replace the drive shaft?
No drive shaft replacement with with JL Mopar 2in. The older Mopar JK 2in lift came with a replacement front u-joint style drive shaft though. Thanks for the view!