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You are delivering content that no one else is, and you’re doing it FAST. Spectacular work! I just bought a 16” and much of my decision making was made using your content. Also, big fan of the old song! Bring it back! 😂
@@Ameyaa I would wait for the M1 16” model to be released. It will probably blow my 16” intel out of the water. Mine works well for video editing, but the fans turn on and it gets loud while rendering. I only work with compressed 4K files.
Amazing comparison, I think the 13 inch is better for me, since I have to carry my laptop everywhere. (Well not right now, but when we get out of quarantine)
Do u think the base 13” MacBook Pro is alright with 16gb of ram and 512gb ssd? Thinking of getting that but ddr3 is putting me off it. I don’t mind the 8th gen i5, still optimised well with Mac OS.
DomOG I got this setup as well - you will be perfectly fine for most tasks, unless your daily workflow is rendering 4K videos, editing hundreds of raw photos, or anything else that’s pretty intense.
I’m looking to get a new MacBook Pro but cannot decide between the £1,799 module or upgrade this module ram to 32GB for £2.199 or just get the MacBook Pro 16 for £2,400. I mainly use my laptop for excel, word, email, TH-cam, TradingView, light photo editing, a lot of multitasking Any advice ?
Gabriel Soto Agree! Would also love to see a few suggestions on eGPU’s for this 13” 10th gen. I saw a video about Razer Core X + a graphics card which would take the pricetag to about $700. It’s too much for me so would love to see a cheaper alternative and maybe benchmark :)
R. W. Absolutely! I was thinking the same. Perhaps you are in a similar boat but I would love to see how good the experience might be with a 13” MBP and an eGPU with a video card in the $300 range. Would also be great to see how eGPUs have been integrated over the years.
I'd just like to say this channel changed my opinion on TH-cam tech reviews. I was old school, waited for outlets like Anandtech to review things. But compared to ArsTechnicas recent review of the 13" MBP, Max has done more benchmarks, more comparisons, illuminated differences between 13" models as well as between the Air and now 16", sound tests, in depth usage tests... you even water cooled the Air! That's something I'd of expected from a site like HardOCP back in the day. And you did that all close to release. Ars just posted their review today. The crown of tech journalism glory has definitely passed to professional TH-cam channels like this one.
Hey Jack I'm so tempted to buy the 16" but do you reckon I should wait for next month in case they release the 14" with the 10th gen Intel i9 octo-core chips and upgraded speakers & woofer like the 16" ?
@@boaztepper7871 we will only know if the 14" launches at their next event which I bleieve is in August or September latest so maybe wait around as the 16" size & weight maybe a bit too much compared to my current 13" although the battery power & 100W charger along with speakers make the 16" the top choice (which if they offered to the 14" then I would go with that)! Thanks for all your help!
I think I’m definitely going for the higher-end 13” “base model” for $1799. If I need more screen real estate, that’s where Sidecar comes in with the 12.9” iPad Pro!
Just bought the 16 Inch MacBook for University and I'm loving it! For someone who has used a high-end windows gaming computer, the performance of this laptop is superb in comparison. I've never been a fan of macs, but now I definitely am :)
At first I thought I was about to consider the top tier 13" when it sounds better than the base 13" . But then the 16" showed me whos the real speaker boss and crushes the top tier 13" in speaker makes me consider the base 13" again 😂😂
lmao i'm exactly you 100%. I knew the 16" was the king of kings in terms of laptop speakers. Never knew how good it was until it was compared with 2nd best speaker, 13" 2020. I was like daayum. My choice is getting harder and harder due to speaker.
I see what you're saying....but seriously, anybody who takes their sound seriously, who only relies on their manufacture speakers coming out of a thin piece of metal?! They're always hooked up to nice quality desk speakers and/or headphones. So for me at least, I never, ever am concerned about speaker quality coming out of the laptop itself, as it's always hooked up to something 1000x better. But hey, we're all different. :)
@@lucafancello7046 I have a logitech x50 bluetooth speaker but it doesn't sound as immersive as dual firing front speakers nor it is as portable as build in speakers and I don't like wearing earphone or headphone all the time . Overtime it would affect our hearings
So I just got the 13" with the 10th gen i5 and 16GB of ram and hooked it up with my eGPU setup with an RX480 (older card but roughly 30% better than the upgraded 5500M in the 16 mbpro). I have to say this setup is ideal for me. I can essentially dock my macbook to my egpu, and with a nice 27" 4k monitor it basically becomes an iMac pro. Great for editing photos and video, rendering graphics, and even playing games (mac compatible only, eGPU with AMD cards does not currently work in bootcamp, though apparently most nvidia cards do.) Plus, my eGPU enclosure has a sata port internally for extra storage (I have a 1TB SSD installed), an ethernet jack, and 4 USB-A ports for dongle-free connections. Then I can unplug and use it as a notebook machine for notes, web, email, messages, wordpress, etc. Also get the advantage of the small form factor and better battery life this way over the 16". Thanks Max, great video as always!
Are there any differences between the new 13'' Pro compared to the 16'' when connected to an external display? There were discussions about the dGPU in the 16 being used when connected to an external display which would use more power and raise internal temps by ~10ºC leading to thermal throttling sooner. I may accept the hit in performance to have a better experience when using my monitor at home. Any thoughts? Thank you, and thanks for all the informative videos. Very well done.
The 16” doesn’t thermal throttle. Notebookcheck wrote an extensive review about how good the cooling system in that machine is... and they found no throttling even in their torture tests. Yes the dGPU will use more power and all that... especially when pushing an external 4K or larger display. But the performance will remain good.
I have a 16" and. use external monitors. Sitting on my lap right now it is at 46 Celsius. If I plug it into my monitors (2k@144hz, 1080p@60hz) it jumps to 65/70 Celsius immediately. However I haven't found this to be an issue for me. The dgpu gets hot, sure, but I don't think its detrimentally hot. Hope that helps a little
@@gradeA50 : Thanks so much for sharing your first hand experience. It does help. At this point I'm wondering if anything meaningful may change to the MBP 16 in June for WWDC. If not I'd likely jump in now as I don't want to wait until the Fall to get a new machine. The problem is, I'm aware many (if not all) PC manufacturers using thunderbolt 3 in their laptop with dGPUs are able to utilize the integrated graphics for driving any external display rather than the dedicated GPU freeing up some of that much desired thermal headroom. Decisions, decisions...
I have the 13" 2017 and thought these speakers are already maximum technology humanity could fit into a laptop, can't be better no way no never!....... Now I'm left here shattered, I NEED the 16" asap lmao
Thanks for this roundup. As a designer who dabbles in video, you’ve helped me understand the choice here at the exact decision point many professionals are caught between.
I was Waiting for this Video. Looks like I’m gonna get the 13 in for $1800 cuz I’m Not a Big Video Editor. I can save that $400 to $600 for something else
Thank you so much!! Just the video I needed for my dilema btw the higher end 13in vs. The 16in MacBook pros, this will help me pick a laptop for college. I appreciate the professionalism and great quality videos and information. 👍🏾👍🏾
Tbh, the 10th gen H series processors aren't going to be an improvement. 10th gen laptop is already out and most benchmarks have it performing 1-2% better. Intel still hasn't been able to get to 10nm on H series processors, so this still 14nm+++++.
Well done! I pretty much decided on the 13" MacBook Pro for my professional photography needs. But then I thought "How about a base 16" MacBook Pro?". With the promotions out there, if you can deal with the size, the price difference is much less. After your testing, especially the 50MP/Image test, I calculated that the 13" MacBook Pro is about 2x faster than my 2013 15" MBP when exporting images. Which is more than fast enough for my mobile needs. Even my current laptop is 'okay' for my photography. It's just time to retire it. A laptop 2x faster 2lbs lighter will be very welcomed! I don't see myself editing big video projects while I'm on the road. Exporting is the big time suck and I can take care of everything else before that part of the process until I get back in the office. Or simply, just export at the end of the day if on the road. For myself, the size and weight of the16" wouldn't be worth it unless it was going to be my only machine and I would have it spec'd appropriately. While the performance boost would be worth the price, I just can't get over the size. I can carry a 13" everywhere, all-day in New York no problem. Try using a 15" MBP on a coach-class flight. It's tight. I can fit the 13" into a small to medium sized bag camera/man bag and have an awesome machine for 90% of my needs and a pretty good machine for 10% of my needs. Maybe when sit next to you in first-class I'll get the 16" laptop!
Okay. So I think I'll keep my 16 inch until the 14 inch comes out and just resell this 16 inch to a friend, once that one comes out hahaha! Great and informative video!
You’re the best! Thanks for providing the videos that we ask for. I especially appreciate this one and the one you did on the MacBook Pro 13 and XPS 13.
I am so excited for my 13! My last laptop was the late 2011 13" Pro, and it is just now slow since it no longer updates. Im hoping I get as much out of this one.
Thank you for this comp. two questions: 1) what’s the difference in performance and battery life between MBP 20 i5 and i7? Is it worth it to upgrade ? 2) In general: is it recommended to use a MBP while plugged in or does it hurt battery life in the longer term, because battery goes from full down and then recharges to 100? Is it better to charge and use unplugged or is it neglect able? Would be great to see a video. Thumbs up!!
Al G 1) the difference between the i5 and i7 is not so much, about ~400 (10%) on Geekbench 5 (i’ve searched it) so also the battery life will be about the same. 2) NO is way better take it plugged, the battery have less stress, the charger provides to it all the energy needed, it’s the opposite :)
After using the MBP16, I have retired my desktop already. The performance of MBP16 is nearly as good as my desktop (using i7 7th gen) Just plug in to a bigger monitor and everything works as good as a desktop But I tried MBP13 few years ago and it doesn't catch up. So the value of MBP16 is really good for me!!
Just wanted to thank you for this. This is a very useful, detailed comparison that validated my leaning towards the 13”. My heaviest consistent use case is photo editing in Lightroom, and finding out an extra $500 CAD or more wouldn’t give me any substantial increase in performance is extremely helpful.
How on earth these guys haven't reached at least 1 million subscribers yet ? These are, by far, the best comparison videos that actually help make an informed decision.Thank you so much for your efforts !
I think if you're a professional content creator, you need to get the 16". The size doesn't matter here(get the joke?) since professional work is never done on the run. For everyone else, any 13" is a great choice. Just don't upgrade the specs much as it's not worth it. And MacBook Air is just a waste of money at this point.
A.G. Not a content creator, at least not a professional one (ie: making money from it), but willing to learn and there’s room to expand however just got the 16 cuz of its more powerful multimedia capabilities. I’m not luggin this thing anywhere anytime soon and with the narrow price difference this beast would last longer. And if my creative career takes off, it’ll be be future proof
Definitely agree about the size factor. From my perspective the better specs tend to add a little life to the product and wind up being a better investment as you don't deal with performance drop offs over time as severely. The mentality of "max it out for work" was one I followed for quite a while, and it has allowed me to get 8 years of work out of my current computer. I'll probably upgrade to the 16 even though I hate the touch bar, but not completely maxed out.
@@BrianMcDonald hear you on that, i guess if you want a current MacBook you gotta deal with Touch Bar or else go with the Air, which I doubt anybody that cares somewhat for what their computer can do will not stoop that low to. I don't find it that distracting though, it just takes time to grow on you.
@@heatism it's more of a specific problem for me where the touch bar makes my workflow less efficient. When I do high volume photo retouching I'm used to using F1, 2,3,4, & 5 to each perform tasks and I do it all without taking my eyes off the screen. With the touch bar you can't rest your fingers on it because it treats finger contact as a button press, so when I first tried a 15" mbp it added around 3 seconds extra per image where I had to move my hand to touch the right key and look down to make sure I was hitting the right one since there is no tactile feedback. 3 seconds may not seem like much but when you are editing around 1000 images it adds up to a lot of time and means you are paid less for the amount of work you do. One fix could be to make the touch bar a force touch bar that allows you to enable a harder press only to initiate a key press, but the workaround for me is to just use an external keyboard which is an added inconvenience when factoring how much it all costs but oh well.
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As a musician, for future comparisons regarding the sound quality, I would compare the same section from a song rather than different consecutive clips. Using the same portion of the song keeps the comparison as objective as possible so that differences between highs, mids and lows are non-debatable. Though I will say, the 16 inch definitely sounds richer and deeper.
Yeah! That's the kind of video editing reviews I had been hoping for. 4k h.264 is the way most people are interested when considering machines like this. Congrats! You guys got the most complete Mac reviews!
I just bought mine 16 mcbook pro.. as a gift for myself/ my bday... and it will arrive end of this month.. I can’t wait to have my very FIRST laptop that i save from my hardworks for 4 years working as s cook... new friend here by the way.. great video!!! Thumbs up!!!!
Most reviews are claiming that the i7 upgrades on the 13" Air/Pro are not worth it, since the i5 pushes the thermal limit already. However in the 16", the i9 is considerably better than the i7 since it actually has more cores. (The i7 has better single core performance though.)
Sweet! I just bought the MacBook pro 13 fully upgraded (10th gen i7 32gb ram 1tb ssd) for the 16 inch price but portability means a lot to me as an engineering student since pretty much all of my classes require a laptop. But now i don’t really feel bad about choosing the 13 over the 16!
So why not compare the laptops both the i7 CPUs? Don't think it's a fair fight if you don't try and compare apples to apples (pun intended). The cost of the 13" MBP with the i7 would get it closer to cost to the base model 16". We all know the 16" will still beat the 13" with a GPU and six cores but I'd like to see matching specs in terms of cpu line.
Where was this video when i needed it? 😂 I bought the 16" yesterday and i'm so much more confident about it now after watching your video :) thank youuuuu
This isn’t really an apples to apples comparison. It would have made more sense to compare the 2020 MBP 13 with the i7 to the MBP 16? With a difference of $400, you get a bigger screen, better thermals, substantially better speakers, and a dedicated graphics card.
I have the i9. It is more than enough for music. Any 13” is fine for music if it has 16 GB of RAM... more machine just means you can keep more tracks and synths open instead of freezing them... but any of these can mix if you are efficient with your mixing.
16” is too big for me (especially the trackpad). I suppose I can get an external GPU when I need performance in the 13”. Also, the ‘p’ in ‘720p’ stands for ‘potato’.
I’m also on board for the 13” with an eGPU down the road if it’s not performing up to snuff. Was looking at the ones they have and oh gosh, mouth watering just thinking about being anywhere with the 13” and egpu chillen, putting in work 🤘🏼
It’s definitely the best laptop I’ve had since my 2013 MBP. I had the 13 inch 2018 which had so many issues with keyboard that I didn’t like using it. I have a feeling I’m going to use this 16 inch as much as my older ones. They went back to their roots and improved it in every way. Very happy with it.
My spotify was playing Folk background music and is sounds perfect for this video! Like Max's telling you a really interesting story (and he really does!)
Well decibel is a logarithmic scale, and it only measures the pressure. So it doesn’t tell too much, but the amount of frequencies that 16” produces is higher. If I’m not too wrong the way we interpret sound would make the 16 sound louder on even if they would output the same max decibel.
for the 13", would it make sense to go for the 10th gen i7 instead of the i5 that you tested? Would you expect a large difference, also regarding to thermal difference?
the difference is less than 10% in benchmarks, so the i7 model isn’t worth the extra $200. what confuses me is why aren’t hexa/octa core processors on the 13 inch. why are they still using quad core.
had the 2018 15" hated the size, never took it anywhere. have the 2020 13" now, excellent for around the house and travel. pair it with a egpu and external monitor for the perfect home/travel combination.
Finally! Thank you so much. I was really struggling because I wanted the bigger screen but don't really need the extra power. But now that I saw the discount on Amazon its clear! :D
The 16” sounds more better but is more expensive for me to buy right now and I settled with 13”. Until then, I will stick with my purchase of my first MacBook Pro 13” w/ the upgrade options. I went with: 1TB and 2.0 GHZ 10th Gen Intel Core i5 w/ the protection plan🙌🏽 Can’t wait for it to arrive possibly next week!
The 13” MacBook Pro is $200 off at Best Buy right now. Apple also has refurbished 16” MBPs for $2039. I don’t know if that makes a difference for anyone.
I wood like to see a 3d modeling software test on the 13” please before I buy one the 16” is a bit big for my small hands to carry thanks 😊 I use sketchup pro if u can do a review on the MacBook Pro 13” at rendering a 3d project
I think modeling would go smooth even on the MacBook Air, it even goes smooth on my ten year old MacBook Pro with 8GB RAM (though I only have experience with relatively small scenes). For me, the most interesting would be to see how well the MacBook’s perform when using live rendering in Blender (render while navigating through your scene). I’ve read though that GPU rendering in Blender can’t be used with macOS, it would be interesting as well to see if that’s true for these MacBooks. If so, then does GPU rendering in Blender work when switching to Windows using BootCamp?
100 degrees Celsius? Jeebus that thermal performance scares me Thermals and the differences involving the dedicated Radeon GPU were the most interesting to me. Great comparisons! Really appreciate this video
Thanks for the video, I think that's the best one I've seen on the topic so far. Will probably go for 13 as I am doing mostly photo editing and have a good external 27" display. I may do some video at some point but probably not as the main activity so the 1" will do well enough, and honestly, the 16 is way too big and heavy for me despite the great performance. Thanks again for this.
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Max Tech should we all wait for mac book 14 inch?🤔
Max Tech definitely 16 inch
Make next video about iPad Pro 2020 vs MacBook Pro 13 2020 base model please!
i went with the 13'' MBP 10th Gen base
I got it for almost $400 off. 16" is def worth the extra $
Man I love how professional this channel is even with not a vary high sub-count compared to other tech channels.
2020 Top 13" vs 16" Finally ! God Bless
Should've been i7 both not i5 for "13 🤦♂️
@@curiousgeorge6921 They did mention it's only 10-15% faster but I wanted to see this as well.
Geez man it’s fine
ricky v that’s only for the cpu
@@samliu9351 I know and that could be worth it in certain workloads. (:
Great comparison. Shocked no one has done this comparison yet.
Everyone can’t get there hands on a 16inch and the 13inch 2020 without dropping a 💰. They will come soon
You are delivering content that no one else is, and you’re doing it FAST. Spectacular work! I just bought a 16” and much of my decision making was made using your content. Also, big fan of the old song! Bring it back! 😂
Is it good
Does it is having heating issue
I am really confused
Should I buy macbook 13 m1
Or 16 i9
@@Ameyaa I would wait for the M1 16” model to be released. It will probably blow my 16” intel out of the water. Mine works well for video editing, but the fans turn on and it gets loud while rendering. I only work with compressed 4K files.
@@bgtanguay ok fine I will wait for M1 16 inch
I’ve looked everywhere for this comparison!! Thank you, you guys rock
Amazing comparison, I think the 13 inch is better for me, since I have to carry my laptop everywhere. (Well not right now, but when we get out of quarantine)
Do u think the base 13” MacBook Pro is alright with 16gb of ram and 512gb ssd? Thinking of getting that but ddr3 is putting me off it. I don’t mind the 8th gen i5, still optimised well with Mac OS.
DomOG I got this setup as well - you will be perfectly fine for most tasks, unless your daily workflow is rendering 4K videos, editing hundreds of raw photos, or anything else that’s pretty intense.
Why go with 8th gen i5 over the 10th gen i7? Price? Or are there benefits of the i5?
I’m looking to get a new MacBook Pro but cannot decide between the £1,799 module or upgrade this module ram to 32GB for £2.199 or just get the MacBook Pro 16 for £2,400. I mainly use my laptop for excel, word, email, TH-cam, TradingView, light photo editing, a lot of multitasking Any advice ?
Daniel Richardson you don’t use that much power- even the base-line MacBook Air would be plenty of power for you
Thank you Max! Lots of useful info! I am super interested in a comparison of this 13” MBP + eGPU!
Gabriel Soto yes
Gabriel Soto Agree! Would also love to see a few suggestions on eGPU’s for this 13” 10th gen. I saw a video about Razer Core X + a graphics card which would take the pricetag to about $700. It’s too much for me so would love to see a cheaper alternative and maybe benchmark :)
R. W. Absolutely! I was thinking the same. Perhaps you are in a similar boat but I would love to see how good the experience might be with a 13” MBP and an eGPU with a video card in the $300 range. Would also be great to see how eGPUs have been integrated over the years.
me too please make a video :)
Finally I’ve been waiting for this since the release of the 13”
Dude, you just keep delivering. Great job! You deserve 2 Mil for sure :)
Hope we will get there soon! :)
Dude, you've been on it!!!! Killing it right now. Keep it going!!!! #Subscribed.
Thank you!
I'd just like to say this channel changed my opinion on TH-cam tech reviews. I was old school, waited for outlets like Anandtech to review things. But compared to ArsTechnicas recent review of the 13" MBP, Max has done more benchmarks, more comparisons, illuminated differences between 13" models as well as between the Air and now 16", sound tests, in depth usage tests... you even water cooled the Air! That's something I'd of expected from a site like HardOCP back in the day.
And you did that all close to release. Ars just posted their review today.
The crown of tech journalism glory has definitely passed to professional TH-cam channels like this one.
We appreciate it! :)
After this review ordered 16” MacBook Pro for video and photo editing ‼️
Watching on my 16 inch MacBook Pro, best decision I’ve made so far
Hey Jack I'm so tempted to buy the 16" but do you reckon I should wait for next month in case they release the 14" with the 10th gen Intel i9 octo-core chips and upgraded speakers & woofer like the 16" ?
@@pradeepdatwani1232 I don't think the specs will be crazy like that and most people think the 14" will come next year!
@@boaztepper7871 we will only know if the 14" launches at their next event which I bleieve is in August or September latest so maybe wait around as the 16" size & weight maybe a bit too much compared to my current 13" although the battery power & 100W charger along with speakers make the 16" the top choice (which if they offered to the 14" then I would go with that)! Thanks for all your help!
Are you having no Kernel Panicks?
i use f keys for work , how does it fair for the touch bar?id like to get this one but unsure as it may feel different for everyday 8hr use
I think I’m definitely going for the higher-end 13” “base model” for $1799. If I need more screen real estate, that’s where Sidecar comes in with the 12.9” iPad Pro!
I do the same!✨ It’s really nice to have the 12.9 iPad handy!
Tristen Menzies yes I do!
RpM_Evan yes it does! As long as it has the latest iOS software!
I love how you actually read comments and make videos on what people want.
I've been looking at the $1800 MacBook Pro a lot this month. I think that's going to be my first MacBook
I just ordered mine..it's my first MacOS device:)
Jogith S Chandran same here. I’ll get mine before next Thursday
I just ordered my first one today!
Woohoo! We all have MacBooks now!
Much appreciated and thanks for the in-depth comparison. Decided on the 16" in the end thanks to your videos!
I was waiting this video since the 13" came out. Now I'm watching this video on my 16".
Is it good
Does it is having heating issue
A eGPU comparison would be amazing!
Totally agree
I actually really hope he does this. Really curious. I know the eGPU will be better, but I wonder by how much.
Yes please!
Just bought the 16 Inch MacBook for University and I'm loving it! For someone who has used a high-end windows gaming computer, the performance of this laptop is superb in comparison. I've never been a fan of macs, but now I definitely am :)
You guys are the best! No one's making these comparisons on TH-cam! Also, your old song is a classic now. Don't change! 😂😁
Thank you! :) More comparisons coming soon!
Max Tech Yeah don’t change it! I was sad to not hear it in this comparison.
This is exactly what I've been looking for!! Thanks!
At first I thought I was about to consider the top tier 13" when it sounds better than the base 13" . But then the 16" showed me whos the real speaker boss and crushes the top tier 13" in speaker makes me consider the base 13" again 😂😂
lmao i'm exactly you 100%. I knew the 16" was the king of kings in terms of laptop speakers. Never knew how good it was until it was compared with 2nd best speaker, 13" 2020. I was like daayum. My choice is getting harder and harder due to speaker.
I see what you're saying....but seriously, anybody who takes their sound seriously, who only relies on their manufacture speakers coming out of a thin piece of metal?!
They're always hooked up to nice quality desk speakers and/or headphones. So for me at least, I never, ever am concerned about speaker quality coming out of the laptop itself, as it's always hooked up to something 1000x better. But hey, we're all different. :)
@@tribzman3977 Got you guys i've considering if i want a great speaker sound, i could just buy a homepod
@@keent yeah because the price difference between base 13" and top tier 13" is huge . 😂
@@lucafancello7046 I have a logitech x50 bluetooth speaker but it doesn't sound as immersive as dual firing front speakers nor it is as portable as build in speakers and I don't like wearing earphone or headphone all the time . Overtime it would affect our hearings
you're on fire with these reviews! wow! this has been super helpful with determining my new MBP purchase
Great work man. You have the best Mac reviews on TH-cam. By far.
Thank you!
So I just got the 13" with the 10th gen i5 and 16GB of ram and hooked it up with my eGPU setup with an RX480 (older card but roughly 30% better than the upgraded 5500M in the 16 mbpro). I have to say this setup is ideal for me. I can essentially dock my macbook to my egpu, and with a nice 27" 4k monitor it basically becomes an iMac pro. Great for editing photos and video, rendering graphics, and even playing games (mac compatible only, eGPU with AMD cards does not currently work in bootcamp, though apparently most nvidia cards do.) Plus, my eGPU enclosure has a sata port internally for extra storage (I have a 1TB SSD installed), an ethernet jack, and 4 USB-A ports for dongle-free connections. Then I can unplug and use it as a notebook machine for notes, web, email, messages, wordpress, etc. Also get the advantage of the small form factor and better battery life this way over the 16".
Thanks Max, great video as always!
You're the first channel that I know of to mention battery life during video editing. Thank you!
Are there any differences between the new 13'' Pro compared to the 16'' when connected to an external display? There were discussions about the dGPU in the 16 being used when connected to an external display which would use more power and raise internal temps by ~10ºC leading to thermal throttling sooner. I may accept the hit in performance to have a better experience when using my monitor at home. Any thoughts? Thank you, and thanks for all the informative videos. Very well done.
Yes, I am curious about that too...
The 16” doesn’t thermal throttle. Notebookcheck wrote an extensive review about how good the cooling system in that machine is... and they found no throttling even in their torture tests.
Yes the dGPU will use more power and all that... especially when pushing an external 4K or larger display. But the performance will remain good.
I am curious about this as well, it’s the reason I returned my 16.
I have a 16" and. use external monitors. Sitting on my lap right now it is at 46 Celsius. If I plug it into my monitors (2k@144hz, 1080p@60hz) it jumps to 65/70 Celsius immediately. However I haven't found this to be an issue for me. The dgpu gets hot, sure, but I don't think its detrimentally hot. Hope that helps a little
@@gradeA50 : Thanks so much for sharing your first hand experience. It does help. At this point I'm wondering if anything meaningful may change to the MBP 16 in June for WWDC. If not I'd likely jump in now as I don't want to wait until the Fall to get a new machine. The problem is, I'm aware many (if not all) PC manufacturers using thunderbolt 3 in their laptop with dGPUs are able to utilize the integrated graphics for driving any external display rather than the dedicated GPU freeing up some of that much desired thermal headroom. Decisions, decisions...
16” inch’s speakers smashed 13” inch ones....😂💔
big boi got the big speakers
I have the 13" 2017 and thought these speakers are already maximum technology humanity could fit into a laptop, can't be better no way no never!....... Now I'm left here shattered, I NEED the 16" asap lmao
Lucian I have the 12 inch MacBook from 2015 and thought those speakers were good! Lol. Waiting on my 16” delivery this week
Meanwhile the 13 inch speakers are already better than any other speakers on any laptop out there except the 16 inch
This answered my questions perfectly!
Thanks for this roundup. As a designer who dabbles in video, you’ve helped me understand the choice here at the exact decision point many professionals are caught between.
I was Waiting for this Video. Looks like I’m gonna get the 13 in for $1800 cuz I’m Not a Big Video Editor. I can save that $400 to $600 for something else
Thanks for helping me to make an educated purchase on my 16inch! Amazing content!
My 16 inch MacBook Pro arrives on Friday 🥳🎂🎉🎊🙋🏻♀️ , Best choice made !
my macbook too :)
congrats :) have fun - i have also the 16 inch
I’m so excited nikont1998 , upgrading from my 2015 !
Thank you so much Kim Nguyen 🥰 !
*Tracy Born Again Farm Girl I’m upgrading from my mid 2014 13 inch :D so excited
“Expensive and portable” or “Budget professional”. The battle we’ve been waiting for.
not sure either one of these qualifies as a budget option
Thank you so much!! Just the video I needed for my dilema btw the higher end 13in vs. The 16in MacBook pros, this will help me pick a laptop for college. I appreciate the professionalism and great quality videos and information. 👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you so much! I love the level of detail you put in your videos! You’re amazing!
This is what i been waiting for!
Waiting for apple to release refreshed 16 inch models with top end processors. I need bigger screen. 13 is too small for multiwindow work
when is this gonna happen do you think?
ZesT MRIDEEP not until at least this fall probably. Maybe WWDC but I don’t think that early
Doesn’t the 16 inch come with this generations processors? The i7 6 core is a beast
16 inch already has a top end processor with the i9 variant
Tbh, the 10th gen H series processors aren't going to be an improvement. 10th gen laptop is already out and most benchmarks have it performing 1-2% better. Intel still hasn't been able to get to 10nm on H series processors, so this still 14nm+++++.
Well done!
I pretty much decided on the 13" MacBook Pro for my professional photography needs. But then I thought "How about a base 16" MacBook Pro?". With the promotions out there, if you can deal with the size, the price difference is much less.
After your testing, especially the 50MP/Image test, I calculated that the 13" MacBook Pro is about 2x faster than my 2013 15" MBP when exporting images. Which is more than fast enough for my mobile needs. Even my current laptop is 'okay' for my photography. It's just time to retire it. A laptop 2x faster 2lbs lighter will be very welcomed!
I don't see myself editing big video projects while I'm on the road. Exporting is the big time suck and I can take care of everything else before that part of the process until I get back in the office. Or simply, just export at the end of the day if on the road.
For myself, the size and weight of the16" wouldn't be worth it unless it was going to be my only machine and I would have it spec'd appropriately. While the performance boost would be worth the price, I just can't get over the size. I can carry a 13" everywhere, all-day in New York no problem. Try using a 15" MBP on a coach-class flight. It's tight. I can fit the 13" into a small to medium sized bag camera/man bag and have an awesome machine for 90% of my needs and a pretty good machine for 10% of my needs.
Maybe when sit next to you in first-class I'll get the 16" laptop!
Looking forward to seeing all the upcoming videos including the one with the eGPU for the 13 inch
Make next video about IPad Pro 2020 vs MacBook 13 base model please!!!
Dude, thank you SO MUCH. I've been waiting for this review for so long. Im watching it right now but im grateful ❤️
Okay. So I think I'll keep my 16 inch until the 14 inch comes out and just resell this 16 inch to a friend, once that one comes out hahaha! Great and informative video!
Ordered the 13" one, thanks for your reviews!
You’re the best! Thanks for providing the videos that we ask for. I especially appreciate this one and the one you did on the MacBook Pro 13 and XPS 13.
Thank you for your fantastic videos. You are ahead of every other reviewer on TH-cam. Well done.
I am so excited for my 13! My last laptop was the late 2011 13" Pro, and it is just now slow since it no longer updates. Im hoping I get as much out of this one.
Thank you for this comp. two questions:
1) what’s the difference in performance and battery life between MBP 20 i5 and i7? Is it worth it to upgrade ?
2) In general: is it recommended to use a MBP while plugged in or does it hurt battery life in the longer term, because battery goes from full down and then recharges to 100? Is it better to charge and use unplugged or is it neglect able?
Would be great to see a video. Thumbs up!!
Al G
1) the difference between the i5 and i7 is not so much, about ~400 (10%) on Geekbench 5 (i’ve searched it) so also the battery life will be about the same.
2) NO is way better take it plugged, the battery have less stress, the charger provides to it all the energy needed, it’s the opposite :)
After using the MBP16, I have retired my desktop already.
The performance of MBP16 is nearly as good as my desktop (using i7 7th gen)
Just plug in to a bigger monitor and everything works as good as a desktop
But I tried MBP13 few years ago and it doesn't catch up.
So the value of MBP16 is really good for me!!
What I was waiting for! Finally an amazing comparison for me 2 watch! 😊
Just wanted to thank you for this. This is a very useful, detailed comparison that validated my leaning towards the 13”. My heaviest consistent use case is photo editing in Lightroom, and finding out an extra $500 CAD or more wouldn’t give me any substantial increase in performance is extremely helpful.
How on earth these guys haven't reached at least 1 million subscribers yet ? These are, by far, the best comparison videos that actually help make an informed decision.Thank you so much for your efforts !
Hoping to reach 1M in about a year! -Vadim
16" becomes quite hot to hold on the knees. Is it the same with the new 13"?
Yes it’s actually worse on the 13” for me
I think if you're a professional content creator, you need to get the 16". The size doesn't matter here(get the joke?) since professional work is never done on the run. For everyone else, any 13" is a great choice. Just don't upgrade the specs much as it's not worth it. And MacBook Air is just a waste of money at this point.
A.G. Not a content creator, at least not a professional one (ie: making money from it), but willing to learn and there’s room to expand however just got the 16 cuz of its more powerful multimedia capabilities. I’m not luggin this thing anywhere anytime soon and with the narrow price difference this beast would last longer. And if my creative career takes off, it’ll be be future proof
Definitely agree about the size factor. From my perspective the better specs tend to add a little life to the product and wind up being a better investment as you don't deal with performance drop offs over time as severely. The mentality of "max it out for work" was one I followed for quite a while, and it has allowed me to get 8 years of work out of my current computer. I'll probably upgrade to the 16 even though I hate the touch bar, but not completely maxed out.
@@BrianMcDonald hear you on that, i guess if you want a current MacBook you gotta deal with Touch Bar or else go with the Air, which I doubt anybody that cares somewhat for what their computer can do will not stoop that low to. I don't find it that distracting though, it just takes time to grow on you.
@@heatism it's more of a specific problem for me where the touch bar makes my workflow less efficient. When I do high volume photo retouching I'm used to using F1, 2,3,4, & 5 to each perform tasks and I do it all without taking my eyes off the screen. With the touch bar you can't rest your fingers on it because it treats finger contact as a button press, so when I first tried a 15" mbp it added around 3 seconds extra per image where I had to move my hand to touch the right key and look down to make sure I was hitting the right one since there is no tactile feedback. 3 seconds may not seem like much but when you are editing around 1000 images it adds up to a lot of time and means you are paid less for the amount of work you do.
One fix could be to make the touch bar a force touch bar that allows you to enable a harder press only to initiate a key press, but the workaround for me is to just use an external keyboard which is an added inconvenience when factoring how much it all costs but oh well.
Could you do a cooling test between the MacBook Pro 16 i7 vs the i9 (with fan noise etc.)?
Your videos are outstanding ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
I have never seen such a detailed comparison with laptops ever
Honest reviews, Quality content rocks💫
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Thank you so much 😀
As a musician, for future comparisons regarding the sound quality, I would compare the same section from a song rather than different consecutive clips. Using the same portion of the song keeps the comparison as objective as possible so that differences between highs, mids and lows are non-debatable. Though I will say, the 16 inch definitely sounds richer and deeper.
Yeah! That's the kind of video editing reviews I had been hoping for. 4k h.264 is the way most people are interested when considering machines like this. Congrats! You guys got the most complete Mac reviews!
I just bought mine 16 mcbook pro.. as a gift for myself/ my bday... and it will arrive end of this month..
I can’t wait to have my very FIRST laptop that i save from my hardworks for 4 years working as s cook... new friend here by the way.. great video!!! Thumbs up!!!!
Will you review the higher end i7 version of the 13-inch MacBook Pro ?
Most reviews are claiming that the i7 upgrades on the 13" Air/Pro are not worth it, since the i5 pushes the thermal limit already. However in the 16", the i9 is considerably better than the i7 since it actually has more cores. (The i7 has better single core performance though.)
Sweet! I just bought the MacBook pro 13 fully upgraded (10th gen i7 32gb ram 1tb ssd) for the 16 inch price but portability means a lot to me as an engineering student since pretty much all of my classes require a laptop. But now i don’t really feel bad about choosing the 13 over the 16!
if only the 16" cost $2000!
@RpM_Evan base model open box excellent is just under 2000 i think and new on amazon is 2099
In germany its 2600€ thats round about 2800$ lol and the good 13 inch is 2100€
At Best Buy open box exellent same as brand new cost $1900 ☺️
So why not compare the laptops both the i7 CPUs? Don't think it's a fair fight if you don't try and compare apples to apples (pun intended). The cost of the 13" MBP with the i7 would get it closer to cost to the base model 16". We all know the 16" will still beat the 13" with a GPU and six cores but I'd like to see matching specs in terms of cpu line.
Nice review, pls do a video with the 8 core 16inch vs the max out 13inch.
A subtle difference in audio but it made an impact. Definitely 16 inch laptops audio rocks
Where was this video when i needed it? 😂 I bought the 16" yesterday and i'm so much more confident about it now after watching your video :) thank youuuuu
andrew chen The 16” is a beast. More machine than most will need. You will have a blast.
The 16 inch is a great buy, I have a month with mine and I love it. The new 13 inch is great too with the new updates.
This isn’t really an apples to apples comparison. It would have made more sense to compare the 2020 MBP 13 with the i7 to the MBP 16? With a difference of $400, you get a bigger screen, better thermals, substantially better speakers, and a dedicated graphics card.
Love how none of these comparison tests showcase the music editing abilities.. everything is video or photo :/
Since audio editing relies basically on cpu performance, you can just relate to photo editing results
13” will be absolutely fine!!
I have the i9. It is more than enough for music. Any 13” is fine for music if it has 16 GB of RAM... more machine just means you can keep more tracks and synths open instead of freezing them... but any of these can mix if you are efficient with your mixing.
You have been killin it with new Macbook Pro videos. Thank you!
16” is too big for me (especially the trackpad).
I suppose I can get an external GPU when I need performance in the 13”.
Also, the ‘p’ in ‘720p’ stands for ‘potato’.
I’m also on board for the 13” with an eGPU down the road if it’s not performing up to snuff. Was looking at the ones they have and oh gosh, mouth watering just thinking about being anywhere with the 13” and egpu chillen, putting in work 🤘🏼
It’s definitely the best laptop I’ve had since my 2013 MBP. I had the 13 inch 2018 which had so many issues with keyboard that I didn’t like using it. I have a feeling I’m going to use this 16 inch as much as my older ones. They went back to their roots and improved it in every way. Very happy with it.
My spotify was playing Folk background music and is sounds perfect for this video! Like Max's telling you a really interesting story (and he really does!)
Well decibel is a logarithmic scale, and it only measures the pressure. So it doesn’t tell too much, but the amount of frequencies that 16” produces is higher.
If I’m not too wrong the way we interpret sound would make the 16 sound louder on even if they would output the same max decibel.
for the 13", would it make sense to go for the 10th gen i7 instead of the i5 that you tested? Would you expect a large difference, also regarding to thermal difference?
the difference is less than 10% in benchmarks, so the i7 model isn’t worth the extra $200. what confuses me is why aren’t hexa/octa core processors on the 13 inch. why are they still using quad core.
had the 2018 15" hated the size, never took it anywhere. have the 2020 13" now, excellent for around the house and travel. pair it with a egpu and external monitor for the perfect home/travel combination.
Finally! Thank you so much. I was really struggling because I wanted the bigger screen but don't really need the extra power. But now that I saw the discount on Amazon its clear! :D
Can you get the student discount through amazon ?
Most likely the reason it is slower when it is plugged in is because the battery charging is introducing heat into the chassie. Amazing video!
13” with eGpu next? Yes please!
The 16” sounds more better but is more expensive for me to buy right now and I settled with 13”. Until then, I will stick with my purchase of my first MacBook Pro 13” w/ the upgrade options.
I went with: 1TB and 2.0 GHZ 10th Gen Intel Core i5 w/ the protection plan🙌🏽 Can’t wait for it to arrive possibly next week!
Finally ¡ I was really waiting for this comparison...THANKS A LOT. Actually its a no brain decision. I found the 16 pro close to 2000.
Can you share a link where you find for 2k?
The 16 inch bumps. It’s a must buy
Can you do a i5 vs i7 performance comparison for new 13 inch w/10th gen processors?
Devesh Murali barely any, the i7 is still a quad core just with faster base/boost clock
The 13” MacBook Pro is $200 off at Best Buy right now. Apple also has refurbished 16” MBPs for $2039. I don’t know if that makes a difference for anyone.
I wood like to see a 3d modeling software test on the 13” please before I buy one the 16” is a bit big for my small hands to carry thanks 😊 I use sketchup pro if u can do a review on the MacBook Pro 13” at rendering a 3d project
Same here! 🙋🏻♂️
I really want to know is the top 13” can handle light to medium 3d modeling activities. Thanks!
Nomar of course it can!
I think modeling would go smooth even on the MacBook Air, it even goes smooth on my ten year old MacBook Pro with 8GB RAM (though I only have experience with relatively small scenes). For me, the most interesting would be to see how well the MacBook’s perform when using live rendering in Blender (render while navigating through your scene). I’ve read though that GPU rendering in Blender can’t be used with macOS, it would be interesting as well to see if that’s true for these MacBooks. If so, then does GPU rendering in Blender work when switching to Windows using BootCamp?
Ur vids are more professional than Linus Tech Tips. Subscribed.
Made up my mind.. for just a few hundred extra, it’s better for me to go for the 16 inch! Thanks for these videos Max!
Yes the $2200 sale on amazon is great! geni.us/FNetJk
watching this video on 16'inch mac book pro
Does the 13" display suffer from ghosting like the 16" while scrolling quickly through text/webpages?
Great review guys! You're doing amazing job as usual!
Thank you literally addressed every concern and question i had
waiting for this for so long. Thank you very much for updating videos so quickly!
Whoever updated the comment section needs to be fired
100 degrees Celsius? Jeebus that thermal performance scares me
Thermals and the differences involving the dedicated Radeon GPU were the most interesting to me. Great comparisons! Really appreciate this video
Oh yes please MBP13" + eGPU
Thanks for the video, I think that's the best one I've seen on the topic so far. Will probably go for 13 as I am doing mostly photo editing and have a good external 27" display. I may do some video at some point but probably not as the main activity so the 1" will do well enough, and honestly, the 16 is way too big and heavy for me despite the great performance. Thanks again for this.
Finally, was waiting for this one
Exactly the video I need!! Thank you for touching all the points and being so elaborated!!!
BOOM! now this is what ive been waiting for.