Let's Talk Board Games #9 - Strategy Board Game Reviews (Anno 1800, Bitoku, Betrayal & Pessoa)
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Welcome to our ninth episode of "Let's Talk Board Games," where we discuss and review several board games.
JUMP:
00:00 - Foster The Meeple
01:29 - Anno 1800
10:48 - Bitoku
19:06 - Betrayal at House on the Hill 3rd Edition
30:28 - Pessoa
Foster The Meeple's Channel Link - @FostertheMeeple
Link to the Etsy Insert for Anno 1800 - www.etsy.com/listing/10975005...
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Here's the link to the Etsy organizer for Anno 1800 - www.etsy.com/listing/1097500549/anno-1800-board-game-organizer-insert
awwwwww We love you guys!!! Thanks for the shout out and for everything you do! Great video as always, we haven't had a chance to play any of these games ha We have had Anno 1800 sitting on the shelf for about 6 months now, really need to get it played!!
Thank you both!!
@Foster the Meeple - get that game to the table!
Pessoa is definitely one of the board games that makes us more proud regarding our (Portuguese) culture, being an amazing representation of what was going on inside Fernando Pessoa's mind itself, one of the best Portuguese poets of all times, it's brilliant in that aspect... We are very glad that both of you enjoyed to play Pessoa and also to hear Monique saying that would like to learn Portuguese just to understand better the meaning behind Pessoa's poetry :D
We knew very little about the theme of the game before it was taught to us. As soon as our friend explained the significance of everything relative to the theme we really began to appreciate the game!
@@BeforeYouPlay that is something we keep reading and hearing regarding Pessoa, at first the theme is a bit foreign but then everything makes perfect sense, even the symbiosis with the mechanics is really good in our opinion.
Being the big Vital fans you are, Portuguese is probably a good language for learning 🙃
I like the quick review format. Hope to see more of this kind of content. It must be tough to want to have playthroughs of all the games, but know it’s just not possible. You guys are really doing great things.
Thank you! Yeah we will certainly try and keep this format to be able to cover more games!
@BeforeYouPlay - Thank you for the kind words about my Anno Insert. I am glad you liked it.
Thanks again! Jeff can you please link it here in the comments so we can pin it to the top of this video comments section!
Not a “pc” household… my people! Heehee. Since my dad was one of the first apple employees… i was raised and still live in a Mac household. lol. Love your channel. I’m currently making my way through your YT vids. ;D
About Bitoku... In a 2 player game, you only have 1space per forest (the other side of the board) So the competition of who gets it is still there. I love it at 2 players. It can play fast, specially if you play with the same people. I recommend you to try it as 2players.
For the organization, Folded Space came out with a perfect insert.
I really enjoy Foster the Meeple, such good people. They are easy to feel connected too.
I really dig this style of content from y’all so keep it coming!
Really enjoy these videos, so I'm pretty happy to know that you will do more of these during the summer :) Thanks guys for your awesome content, I could listen to you for hours ^_^
Cheers !!
I love Betrayal so much. I've played several scenarios where it feels like no matter how you prepare, the heroes can't win; likewise there's scenarios where the traitor can't win ever.
That said, the gameplay makes the game. You need a full table for this, but this is more fun and engaging for everyone than any other game I've played.
Fantastic video as always! We always love hearing your thoughts on games. Anno 1800 is one on our list of interest as is Pessoa! Pessoa’s theming is so cool and I’m happy to hear that it really seems to add to the game!
I LOVE Bitoku, best game of the year for me. I got an insert, and it simplifies setup considerably.
Insert is KEY!!!
Anno is by far my favorite to place on the table since I bought it early last year.
It is a long teach but a very fast paced, pure fun play. It can take 3 hours at first but most games are 1.5hrs for us (in 2, 3 or 4 players) and the mechanics are just so satisfying and there is nothing like hearing "who makes sausages?!" every time during this game :)
Can't wait for more content for this game.
I really like these episodes with shorter discussions around games. Don't get me wrong, I will gladly watch a 2-hour play through and a review, but only for games that have already peaked my interest. This is a nice way to be peaked ;)
Thanks so much!
Love this format, great to hear just your quick overview and final thoughts on several games so that I can get an idea if they’re of interest to me or not, thx guys! Like you guys, I love Betrayal at House on the Hill regardless of any criticisms of broken scenarios, it’s all about the fun banter going around the table :) You should definitely try the legacy version, the prologue scenario already had us all laughing so much when we completed it.
i love these lets talk :) keep em up!
Nice video ! Very intrigued about Anno 1800 ! Thanks for all the informative reviews :)
Thanks for watching!
Just trigger the haunt on a 7 instead of a 5 and it won't trigger until at minimum the 4th Omen.
House rules are good.
Amazing video. You are my go to channel for games, hands down. Want to get Bitoku ❤
Pessoa was one of the games I was most excited about releasing at Essen last year but I still haven't played it yet! Glad to see you both have and hear your thoughts on it! Thanks for the review
Anno 1800 video game is one of my favorite and I'm intrigued how the board game reimplements the core mechanisms of the video games regarding building industries, trading and satisfying people's needs. But yeah, the resource conversion formulas are tedious. I really hope you guys would have a chance to try the video game one day. Managing the production lines is really satisfying. And it has the best of demonstration of how capitalism works.
Thanks as always Naveen and Monique!
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oh, we really love Anno 1800 at 2p, it's fast and challenging, it forces you to interact with the other player, "positive" and painful interaction like in Brass and the timing and efficiency is crucial.
I loved the video.
Love your videos guys! Can you do a co op one next?
Agreed on Foster the Meeple, I love their channel!
They're wonderful!
I enjoyed this episode. I have not played any of these games so it was nice to get some exposure to knew games. Some other games I would suggest playing are Barrage, Empires of the Void 2, Boon Lake, and Isle of Sky. Perhaps you have already covered some of these already but they are games that I enjoy or am interested in.
thank you for the video!
i’ve only played Bitoku once at 2 player, so my first impressions are only that - it felt to me the game was kind of working against itself and was too busy and fiddly and long for what it was. Lots of people love love love this game so I’m probably missing something. Happy I got to try it though.
Thank you for watching! Sounds like we had similar experiences
You might find that you enjoy it a lot more ignoring the dice rules completely of the forest so that anyone can place their dice in the forest regardless. That is what we do and it makes the game so much easier. :)
Anno 1800. This is a rule that most people miss and I believe you guys did as well. Using the reward from the Population cards is optional. For example, you satisfy a population card's needs; the card as a reward gives you a new blue worker. You don't HAVE to collect that reward. Meaning you don't gain an extra worker and therefore you don't gain an extra card in your hand. Meaning the game does not necessarily have to drag on because you keep gaining new population cards to your hand. We have finished a 2-player playthrough of this game in 45 mins.
Thanks for this. I liked hearing about the not-always-new-and-shiny games. I played Betrayal at House on the Hill (the old one) at a friends game night. Now I know why it didn't click for me. 😆 At first 'coop' and then 'one against all' in itself made me feel like it was never coop.
Recommendations for next time: Genotype and Merv.
Great reviews! I would flip the reviews for Anno 1800 and Bitoku though. I felt that with Anno 1800 the decisions were more obvious with the cards in hand and the end feeling was just okay, while with Bitoku, I can see how the decisions can feel straight forward, but the race for the different spots always keeps me on my toes.
Love the shout-out to your fellow gamers... It sounds so genuine as compared to some channels, I'm hoping the motivation behind it was good too! Subbed to them too 😁
Thank you! Yes, absolutely. We love supporting other creators and so many have supported us along the way as well. It's a beautiful community =)
A bunch of interesting games, for different reasons.
Anno 1800 for the mechanic of trying to figure out other players' moves to use them at your advantage. I really like this kind of indirect interaction, having to keep an eye on everyone's board.
Bitoku for the art and lore. I love Japanese folklore and Studio Ghibli's anime, even if the board gives me headache... ^^"
Pessoa for the AMAZING theme. It's not easy to find good games about literature and art in general, and this is probably one of the most unique theme I've ever heard of.
Thank you for the video and the great suggestions! 😊
Been irrationally resistant with games based on IPs that I am not familiar with or liked (despite owning Vikings Gone Wild which was an app I never played, but that's my present exception). I feel like Anno 1800 would break that, coz all the feedback I've seen makes me really want to get into it.
Anno was a big success in my book, and still is. Just last week I played it again and had such a great time - although I have to recognize it feels better at 3p than at 2p. Regarding Bitoku and Pessoa: I really want to try both of them at some point.
And a final note about Fernando Pessoa: the heteronyms were more than just pseudonyms Pessoa would use to write. They were almost like living persons: each one had a biography, character, life experiences. It's fascinating to think he had life stories for each one of them (I may be wrong here but I think I am not) registered on his notes.
Awesome video as always! Any plans of doing a top 10 games list for 2020 and 2021?
Thank you! Yes, most likely toward the end of the year
I've only played Anno 1800 at 2 players and I can say that the player interaction is very present. Maybe it has more at 3-4 players but it definitely doesn't feel like we are missing out when we play at two.
That's good to hear, I think we were spoiled by our 3-player game lol.
@@BeforeYouPlay maybe when I play it with 3 player I'll share your feelings who knows ;)
I played video game ANNO 1404 and I think I dipped to 1800 as well, but I've never played the board game. It looked fun, so now I have to get it I guess :-D
Anno 1800 still has trading at 2 players. It's all about specialization. It's an excellent 2 player because of the fact trading isn't optional. Whether 2, 3 or 4 players It's just a matter of if someone has something and if you have a trade token. They can't say no to you. Because of that it scales very well and we have played a lot of games at 2 players and it plays in under an hour at 2 player.
I feel your pain with some games only being available on PC; I have a Mac and accidentally bought a game on STEAM that I can’t play! 🙁
Would love to play some Betrayal or Anno 1800. Must admit feeling a little scared about Bitoku, looks complexe. But maybe I'm wrong and should give it a try.
Would like to see 2 player nemesis lockdown coop from you Guys.
Love Bitoku but it was very very overwhelming to learn!!!
Try remonving one of each industry tile for 2p Anno 1800. Works really well, IMO.
Ooooh we didn't think to do that but we we will next time. Thanks for the tip!
So I have betrayal 2e played a scenario where I was trying to feed my shrunken friends to a cat they had to find a plane and fly out the window.
Problem is they could stun the cat and I couldn’t interact with them in any way and more than half the locations where you could find the plane also had a window for some reason
Wow, your microphone is so different now, I like it.
We're upgrading our audio currently and are still experimenting. We're still not happy with it yet, but it's a start haha. Thanks for noticing!
Anno plays very well at 4 actually
I've been checking out anno over and over but the components/presence seem to be lacking for the price point , I could be wrong I guess.
It is a dull looking game in many ways but the game play makes up the difference…they are right though…4 players is LOOONNNGGGGG
If salvageable lol, is there any chance you could release just the rules teach for Bitoku?!!!
Kinda heartbroken you didn't manage to record Bitoku. Your videos are such an asset when I am pondering buying new games, and this one is definitely towards the top of that list.
So sorry! It's just such a long game for us to re-record =/
@@BeforeYouPlay Understandable, thanks for all you do from Greece :)
Have you thought about Betrayal Legacy the “upgrade” to Betrayal Hill?
What do you guys do for work? Is this your full time job or do you have careers? Love the channel, its my fav.
Thank you so much! We both work in healthcare, but Monique recently left her job and is now doing content full-time.
@@BeforeYouPlay Actually assumed you both working in Media/Communication given how well the content is organsied and delivered, also too how well you both interact with each other (scripted level but not appearing scripted). Am going through your backlog atm in support of Prime deals in in buidling up stcok for the family :)
I think Ark Nova's length is shortened a bit at four players, because as the game goes on, each player starts to specialize in their own lines of tech. So it's less upon each player, where the the two-player version its just up to them to do it all. I actually prefer it with 3 and 4. I honestly haven't played it with 2, and I'm not sure I would. The players begging others for them to use their copy of the tech is a fun thing too in a four player game. :)
I really enjoy bitoku now that I have a 3d insert and don't have to learn from the rulebook. I agree that the rulebook makes it seem way more complicated than it is. I wonder if I'd like it as much it it didn't look the way it does...
Oh that's soooo great that you have an insert! That must make setup soo much easier
@@BeforeYouPlay it's literally a game changer 🙌
Ah, Betrayal... what gamer doesn't have a table-flipping horror story about that game? Oh, memory and time are fickle things...
Will you keep all four of them in your collection? Any chance for a series with titles that are leaving your collection?
We won't be keeping all four, but we're not sure about which ones will be leaving and when yet. Anno 1800 is definitely staying! We may talk a little bit about games leaving our collection, but don't typically like to focus on it.
@@BeforeYouPlay I kinda hoped you will say something like this about Bitoku. I really want to try it, but I am not sure if I should buy it :/
Hi. I'd really like you to play Inis and know your thoughts about it. Could you consider it ? Thx for all your work (i tried Lisboa because of, or thx to, you and i LOVED it). Keep Going !
Inis is my all time number one favourite game.
Aw thank you! We don't have a copy of Inis =/ Maybe in the future if we can play it, we'll talk about it! Glad you loved Lisboa!!
@@DenisRyan Oh ! I can't wait to play it. I hope it's cool at 2 players ?
Those sliders from BaHotH second edition were **TERRIBLE!** The bane of a gamer's existence. We made an in-house app to use because they were basically useless.
I have definitely had more bad games than good games with Betrayal. It hasn't turned me off completely because my friends seem to enjoy it but it's never my top pick. Like Naveen said, when you need to roll only a six and you get it, to it's a great feeling in the game. But those moments are just too far between for me.
they create a mini expansion to change character stat in betrayal 2nd edition.
Ooooh neat!
@@BeforeYouPlay i meant the keep track of stats
I haven't played the new edition of Betrayal. I think I've played the first edition. But ever game I've played, I've been annoyed and disappointed at. I've never had fun playing it. BUT!! I've been in the same room while friends played it a few times, either just hanging out or playing at another table, and I've loved listening in to every one of those games. Meh?
haha that's fair! It's definitely a hit-or-miss kind of game. I can definitely see how just observing others play Betrayal could be a ton of fun!
Betrayal was a game I enjoyed for a while, but eventually the brokenness got to me. I gave away my versions.
Yeah, it seems a lot of people share the same sentiment.
You didn't say it outright, but would you agree that the ratio of fiddliness to enjoyability for Bitoku is weighted more towards fiddliness? While the art style is definitely beautiful, I feel like there is way too much going on to make this as enjoyable as I would like it to be.
Yeah, we both agree with you on that. It doesn't seem to have a hard focus.
I think Anno 1800 is good at two as well, it's less good than at 3 or 4, but still a fine game.
Is it just me or is Monique talking faster in this video? 😀
Haha I think she was just really excited! 😀
They thought he was going to be willy Wonka
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I thought Anno was a huge disappointment, it's basically 2 hours of completing dozens of objective cards. And the trading mechanic theoretically would increase the player interaction but in reality you just go and say "I'll use your factory, take some gold".
It's overly repetitive and boring with almost no interaction. Horrible.
We can definitely see how some can find it boring due to the head-down nature of the game (and it is quite dry). It's also quite possible that is is group dependent. The strategy around the table surrounding trading with others was pretty interesting for us. Thanks for sharing your experience
@@BeforeYouPlay forgot to mention the video is great, I love the quick review format ❤️