poverty is not only affecting the black people in south africa my friend. that's why we need a change in leadership and one that can look clear into the future for a great south africa for ALL SOUTH AFRICANS
He is spot on! South Africa has never been more divided in terms of race and black south africans are 100% responsible for this. Political correctness blinds the eyes of the world.
In regards to the poverty stricken you are referring to. from my pov the root cause of it is the current governments exploitation and lack of investment In public interest and rather investing that capital to there own interest.
Cheetah Cheetah that’s the problem with you it’s ignorance the white man took land from Africa with guns same like what the white man did to the indigenous people of America
At least he is allowed to air out his excuses. In Canada, you get called crazy and your children are kidnapped. This was his opinion. He is entitled to it.
A real Judas for everybody to see, who sold out all the Citizens of South Africa. He got his payment from the Soros funded Open Border Foundation. Buy a "wine estate" on a government salary??? If you believe that , then the Moon is made of cheese.
What African country in history that was previously oppressed and had gained democracy after the hard fight . And after that introduced land reclamation programs. Is there any success stories whereby social economic growth nd equality had blossomed from its lands thereafter?
This is just one of those things people say to distract the audience from the question they are supposed to answer.The parameters are South Africa, not Africa. South Africa differs from the rest of Africa because trade is strong,our biggest trade partners include both the EU and the US. Both of which have made substantial investments in the country. Foreign direct investment is the reason we entered the world stage, not because white people were allowed to continue inhabiting lands that were stolen from us. You're clearly out of your depth here. Correlation(between white people holding onto the land of black people), as many would know, does not imply causation(that white people not giving back black land causes economic prosperity). So don't clutch onto straws. I could, using the same twisted logic, retort that any African country that does not have a Desmond Tutu will not be successful.
I give up. Thank you for the debate but clearly you are held tight to your narrative and do not know that COMPROMISE is an important factor in a modern day DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY.And the funny thing is I'm not white and I'm trying to be objective as I can possibly be. Oh well I guess one day when we learn to listen, understand and be patient then we can sit down and talk again. I would really love to debate in such a manner.
@@ateyourchips1164 he didn't end apartheid. The black and Indian people of South Africa ended apartheid resisting it everyday until he saw we are too strong as a unit.
@@bighomiehydro1422 there were many whites who wanted to end apartheid system. Unfortunately now minorities are discriminated in every fonts jobs, sports ..... etc
The courts in South Africa have dealt with this so called “new discrimination” by differentiating between fair and unfair discrimination. Fair discrimination is necessary to undo the injustices that this man was partly responsible for creating.
There is no such thing as "fair discrimination". And you can't fight racism with racism. And the coloured people that he was talking about, that are discriminated against (in their own backyard), how do you justify that? How is that "fair discrimination"? Imagine going to the Eastern Cape or Kwa-Zulu Natal (or any province where the majority are black people) and say that "Here are too many black people doing this xxx job, we need to put more coloureds in that position or more Indians (or dare I say whites)". It doesn't sound right, does it? At the end of the day it hurts black people too. I so badly want to see this country prosper. Good luck to you, my friend. *Create jobs, don't take jobs.*
The Equality clause in the Constitution differentiates between fair and unfair discrimination. So according to the law there is such a thing as “fair discrimination”. The reason for this is so that we can achieve a truly equal society. You’ll find that in many cases affirmative action or “fair discrimination” laws and policies, the law defines the word ”black” to include not only the indigenous black people, but also coloured people and Indians. The law protects us all, coloured people included. So, to answer your question, I do not think coloured people being discriminated against is “fair discrimination” and the law doesn’t either. What Mr De Klerk tried to do, was take a policy he does not understand and try to make it fit his narrative. It’s been a while since I watched the video, but I doubt the accuracy of the examples he gave. That might have something to do with the fact that I don’t trust apartheid apologists. But if they are accurate, those people have recourse, because, as I said before, the law protects us all.
@@chikomborerogudlanga8090 Laws can be discriminatory (I mean .... Apartheid was the law). And to say there is fair discrimination so that we can achieve a truly equal society is contradictory. A truly equal society would be a society where you are judged solely on your character or you as an individual and not as a group. You get the job based on how qualified you are and not because of your colour. And affirmative action is racist and a lot of non-white people (especially in America) agree that it is. It creates a hierarchy of oppression. Black people get primary preferential treatment and everyone else, in hierarchical manner based on pigment and also gender, get what's left over. And black people shouldn't just take hand outs like that. They aren't charity cases. They are smart, talented and hardworking enough to make it. It's disgustingly degrading. I also find it hypocritical of South Africa to have such laws in place to find a "truly equal society" when they do nothing about the farm murders of white people. Just earlier in this week there were more farm murders, but nothing is being done about it. And there are a lot of poor, underpriviled white people in this country, who not only have to deal with these circumstances, but also now with the government discriminating against them. It's no surprise why a lot of people (white, black, coloured, indian, ...) are moving to other countries, because SA is on route to be the next modern day Zimbabwe. It's a damn shame. I'm coloured btw.
poverty is not only affecting the black people in south africa my friend. that's why we need a change in leadership and one that can look clear into the future for a great south africa for ALL SOUTH AFRICANS
He is spot on! South Africa has never been more divided in terms of race and black south africans are 100% responsible for this. Political correctness blinds the eyes of the world.
Coloureds weren’t white enough during apartheid and aren’t black enough under the ANC.
None racial state agree
Building a new south africa for all
Thank you
In regards to the poverty stricken you are referring to. from my pov the root cause of it is the current governments exploitation and lack of investment In public interest and rather investing that capital to there own interest.
Brilliantly said Mr F.W De Klerk.
I just love FW and his way of explaining himself.
Traitor.
Voetsek De Klerk veraaier
jy n rasis? lyk my so
Few de Klerk is like our father
He is a Hero🇿🇦 and we'll forever celebrate him.
can I take my black neighbours farm next to me in Europe now? coz 80% of farms were bought in last 20yrs in SA...
Cheetah Cheetah that’s the problem with you it’s ignorance the white man took land from Africa with guns same like what the white man did to the indigenous people of America
@@nduduzomlambo8539 your understanding of how land was taken is incorrect, simply not the truth
@@cruize2365 He doesn’t care. Narrative > the truth to him…
Amster that is quite an ignorant position
God is ❤️!
Hoekom bly jy nie meer is suid Afrika nie? Dis lekker om in n 1st wereld te bly waar alles wit is en dit werk, nou sit en lieg jy alweer sies .......
At least he is allowed to air out his excuses.
In Canada, you get called crazy and your children are kidnapped.
This was his opinion. He is entitled to it.
Te Laat my maat !
It's a damn shame that Oxford couldn't interview PW Botha.
Murderer that's what he was
It's now tough in SA if you are non-black.
The racism continues - just with a different colour.
Not as bad as before though.
bullshit
A real Judas for everybody to see, who sold out all the Citizens of South Africa. He got his payment from the Soros funded Open Border Foundation. Buy a "wine estate" on a government salary??? If you believe that , then the Moon is made of cheese.
Declerk belongs to those group of people who killed black people
Of course they’re bitter. Their inheritance was stolen.
Very good speaker. Outstanding advocating for all.
No fun when the rabbit got the gun
@Kyle Jones You sound like an Englishmen, I suggest you get to know your subject before commenting.
He who whines @ the consequences of their actions is not gunuinely sorry.
What African country in history that was previously oppressed and had gained democracy after the hard fight . And after that introduced land reclamation programs. Is there any success stories whereby social economic growth nd equality had blossomed from its lands thereafter?
This is just one of those things people say to distract the audience from the question they are supposed to answer.The parameters are South Africa, not Africa. South Africa differs from the rest of Africa because trade is strong,our biggest trade partners include both the EU and the US. Both of which have made substantial investments in the country. Foreign direct investment is the reason we entered the world stage, not because white people were allowed to continue inhabiting lands that were stolen from us. You're clearly out of your depth here. Correlation(between white people holding onto the land of black people), as many would know, does not imply causation(that white people not giving back black land causes economic prosperity). So don't clutch onto straws. I could, using the same twisted logic, retort that any African country that does not have a Desmond Tutu will not be successful.
I give up. Thank you for the debate but clearly you are held tight to your narrative and do not know that COMPROMISE is an important factor in a modern day DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY.And the funny thing is I'm not white and I'm trying to be objective as I can possibly be. Oh well I guess one day when we learn to listen, understand and be patient then we can sit down and talk again. I would really love to debate in such a manner.
@@maromomaredi2031 Looking at South Africa today, have you changed your opinion?
Which ppl in the streets of cape Town go to De Klerk and pat him on the back and say thank u for what he has done? 🤔🤣 What has he done?
Please be careful De klerk will send special branch for you sir. This used happen in the 60s and 70s.😪
Nothing, he just ended apartheid
@@ateyourchips1164 he didn't end apartheid. The black and Indian people of South Africa ended apartheid resisting it everyday until he saw we are too strong as a unit.
@@bighomiehydro1422 there were many whites who wanted to end apartheid system. Unfortunately now minorities are discriminated in every fonts jobs, sports ..... etc
@@bighomiehydro1422 im sorry to say but he did, and he played a pivotal role in it
Those targets ur mentioned,,, nonesense
Mandela turned into a criminal
gaan slaap jy praat net BS.....
I am Afrikaans
The courts in South Africa have dealt with this so called “new discrimination” by differentiating between fair and unfair discrimination. Fair discrimination is necessary to undo the injustices that this man was partly responsible for creating.
There is no such thing as "fair discrimination". And you can't fight racism with racism. And the coloured people that he was talking about, that are discriminated against (in their own backyard), how do you justify that? How is that "fair discrimination"? Imagine going to the Eastern Cape or Kwa-Zulu Natal (or any province where the majority are black people) and say that "Here are too many black people doing this xxx job, we need to put more coloureds in that position or more Indians (or dare I say whites)". It doesn't sound right, does it? At the end of the day it hurts black people too. I so badly want to see this country prosper. Good luck to you, my friend.
*Create jobs, don't take jobs.*
The Equality clause in the Constitution differentiates between fair and unfair discrimination. So according to the law there is such a thing as “fair discrimination”. The reason for this is so that we can achieve a truly equal society. You’ll find that in many cases affirmative action or “fair discrimination” laws and policies, the law defines the word ”black” to include not only the indigenous black people, but also coloured people and Indians. The law protects us all, coloured people included. So, to answer your question, I do not think coloured people being discriminated against is “fair discrimination” and the law doesn’t either. What Mr De Klerk tried to do, was take a policy he does not understand and try to make it fit his narrative. It’s been a while since I watched the video, but I doubt the accuracy of the examples he gave. That might have something to do with the fact that I don’t trust apartheid apologists. But if they are accurate, those people have recourse, because, as I said before, the law protects us all.
@@chikomborerogudlanga8090 Laws can be discriminatory (I mean .... Apartheid was the law). And to say there is fair discrimination so that we can achieve a truly equal society is contradictory. A truly equal society would be a society where you are judged solely on your character or you as an individual and not as a group. You get the job based on how qualified you are and not because of your colour. And affirmative action is racist and a lot of non-white people (especially in America) agree that it is. It creates a hierarchy of oppression. Black people get primary preferential treatment and everyone else, in hierarchical manner based on pigment and also gender, get what's left over. And black people shouldn't just take hand outs like that. They aren't charity cases. They are smart, talented and hardworking enough to make it. It's disgustingly degrading.
I also find it hypocritical of South Africa to have such laws in place to find a "truly equal society" when they do nothing about the farm murders of white people. Just earlier in this week there were more farm murders, but nothing is being done about it. And there are a lot of poor, underpriviled white people in this country, who not only have to deal with these circumstances, but also now with the government discriminating against them.
It's no surprise why a lot of people (white, black, coloured, indian, ...) are moving to other countries, because SA is on route to be the next modern day Zimbabwe. It's a damn shame.
I'm coloured btw.
ORANIA
Poepol!!