Steam Locomotive Controls: Pere Marquette 1225 “The REAL Polar Express" [HD]

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  • Learn how the engineers and fireman operate the REAL Polar Express, Pere Marquette 1225, a steam locomotive built in 1941! In this video engineer Barney Gramling goes over the the various controls in the cab of the 1225 and explains what they do. For more information on the Pere Marquette 1225, and to learn how you can ride on a trip behind it, visit www.MichiganSteamTrain.com.

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  • @AtkataffTheAlpha
    @AtkataffTheAlpha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This looks so accurate to the movie Polar Express. Even the breaks & throttle are in the same spots

    • @rosewetzel8284
      @rosewetzel8284 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I am planning on watching the Polar Express this coming Christmas this year cause it’s like my family tradition to do so!💞☮️🥰🌹🚂

    • @EngineerDaylight
      @EngineerDaylight ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The superpower Berkshires had the same cabs, you'd only a only see subtle difference every so often

    • @justahillbilly7777
      @justahillbilly7777 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      1225 is so accurate to the locomotive in the Polar Express movie because it technically IS the locomotive in the movie. Warner Brothers approached the Steam Railroading Institute to ask if they could use the engine in the movie and SRI agreed and gave Warner Brothers copies of 1225’s blueprints so the animation team could make a mostly accurate copy of the engine. WB also used almost all the sounds of the 1225 under steam for the animated locomotive as well, with the only exception to that being the whistle, which is off of Sierra Railway number 3, and is a Lima 5 chime.

    • @ppheard1254
      @ppheard1254 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like duh

    • @Catty779
      @Catty779 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah except his beard is too short

  • @rambosperm
    @rambosperm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Came on TH-cam a few hours ago to watch football highlights and now I know how to operate a steam locomotive. That’s enough internet for the night....

  • @KDubielak
    @KDubielak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    The inside of the real polar Express is awesome

    • @tuarstinky
      @tuarstinky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its just a cab-

  • @romie1967
    @romie1967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Looking good Barney! 1225 is truly a beautiful locomotive. I had the opportunity to turn a wrench on her, on more than one occasion. Just the grunt work, because I am still learning. I would not have it any other way. I truly enjoy being a volunteer for Steam Locomotive Institute (SRI). I miss my SRI family. Can't wait until this covid situation is (relatively) over... Until then, stay safe all!!!

  • @FuzionHyperX
    @FuzionHyperX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My Favorite Steam locomotive in the world words can’t describe how much a beauty she is!!!!!!

    • @ismarymedina9899
      @ismarymedina9899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fuzion Hyper 2020 that’s my favorite too!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ismarymedina9899SAME HERE!!!

  • @kevp9601
    @kevp9601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Long Live Every American Steam Trains. :-D

  • @adriannettlefold9084
    @adriannettlefold9084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Truely a great explanation of the basics of Locomotive controls. I love how this engine appears to be as close to original design, unlike so many of the restored locomotive we have here in Australia. Don't get me wrong, some re-engineering for better functionality is fine. But I have worked several different restored locomotives and every time there seems to be some unnecessary modifications that make the locomotive look hideous. Anyway Great work fellas, a Beautiful Engine.

  • @kevp9601
    @kevp9601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best TH-cam Video In The Universe

  • @chrislau6004
    @chrislau6004 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Informative video!

  • @alexanderdavila4087
    @alexanderdavila4087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That’s amazing how beautiful it looks

  • @ppheard1254
    @ppheard1254 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's so cool how detailed the locomotive is

  • @kevp9601
    @kevp9601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Love Those Steam Locomotive Engineers

  • @andredizon5805
    @andredizon5805 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I noticed several key differences between the Real PM 1225 and the PE. In the movie, instead of Yanking back on the throttle to open it, The engineer pushed it forward to open the throttle. The Power Reverse was also changed from 1225's precision screw reverser that used a wheel to change the valve timing to a much more traditional Johnson/Quadrant bar with the Lever. Obviously the whistle chord has a unique design, and less obvious is the addition of a BTTF Flux Capacitor on the Fireman side of the cab.
    Some interesting mistakes I noticed were when the kids were driving the train, the Johnson bar lever was red and appeared to be installed sideways and was located on the engineer's left side. It later changed into a different thinner lever located on the emgineer's right side when the engineer took over the controls in the frozen lake scene.
    I also find it funny how the kids had trouble stopping the train because they were arguing over which was the brake, but Never bothered to close the throttle, literally just leaving it wide open. The engineer on the other hand was having trouble stopping the train because of a jammed throttle that snowballed into a bigger problem when the cotter pin fell, without ever touching the brake like.. The complete opposite of what the kids dealt with. And the fact a "Magic Train" would somehow have a burnt out light bulb with the headlight noticeably flickering in the "flat top tunnel" scene forcing the crew to make their way to the front of the locomotive to change the bulb, wide open throttle, and leaving a little girl who conveniently lost her ticket to supervise the controls as a punishment of some sorts.
    Also wanted to point out how when the engineer was trying to drive the train across the ice towards the tracks with his Bunta Fujiwara level drifting skills, the order in which he was engaging the throttle, reverser and brake were all mixed up. But I guess I shouldn't nit pick that far xD

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I seriously do personally believe that I seriously saw those exact same amount of differences myself for sure!!!!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      BUBBLIN' BOILERS!!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TREMBLIN' TRACKS!!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      BLISTERIN' BOILERS!!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      CINDERS AND ASHES!!

  • @kevp9601
    @kevp9601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surprisingly Appropriate, and I Love It a Lot

  • @jcl410
    @jcl410 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you Barney for a very informative video!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      YEAH, THANKS A BUNCH FOR SHOWING ALL THE DIFFERENT CONTROLS ON PERE MARQUETTE #1225 A K A THE POLAR EXPRESS AS WELL AS EXPLAINING HOW EACH OF 'EM OPERATE, BARNEY!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      SPECTACULAR VIDEO FOR SURE!!

  • @coquito0314
    @coquito0314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You are a real engineer tighter to me oh right yeah i would like to hear that all day to lorn 😉😁

  • @maxwellwalcher6420
    @maxwellwalcher6420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love the firebox.

  • @shakedydogshake
    @shakedydogshake 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, lovvvve it! Great great locomotive! Excellent! Steam rules for all time!!!!

  • @TheZiiFamily
    @TheZiiFamily 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow thats a more than i thought knew about trains NICE

  • @kevp9601
    @kevp9601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man, I Really Love That Steam Locomotive

  • @myriamcastaneda2174
    @myriamcastaneda2174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello im super obsest with the 1225 i have a lionel train from the polar express super cool

  • @keeperofsteamstudios6654
    @keeperofsteamstudios6654 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes Barney

  • @manga12
    @manga12 ปีที่แล้ว

    ah how did I miss this one, barny gramling, seen him several times at the openhouse for 765 and hes from around here, they also have the tank engines they take all over maintained in their barn and shop in ashlee indiana.

  • @robertwebber1295
    @robertwebber1295 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That look like john barnet running her that man taught me a lot of things about locomotives when at nctm and barney awesome funny guy too met him in person when they bought #75 to nc

  • @josephburnsjr.3042
    @josephburnsjr.3042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Very informative video Barney! Hands On The Throttle coming up in October this will help me familiarize the controls

  • @MochkhadafiDwiputrawally-jj9zz
    @MochkhadafiDwiputrawally-jj9zz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Steam locomotives can be sent to Indonesia via the Tanjung Priuk port (Jakarta) or the Tanjung Perak port (Surabaya) directly.

  • @sirrandolph7857
    @sirrandolph7857 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe that locomotive can do some sick drifts on an ice lake?

  • @LegoPrime1225
    @LegoPrime1225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One day I will drive the Pere Marquette aka the real polar express 😀

  • @andrewlakatos1301
    @andrewlakatos1301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    3:27 why is there a picture of Mr mackey from South Park?

    • @c3gfboy7
      @c3gfboy7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He maybe likes good ol pere polar m’kay

    • @VT29steamtrain
      @VT29steamtrain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Drugs r bad mkay

    • @domstrains3984
      @domstrains3984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The sign says "black smoke is bad m'kay" I have seen it, I volunteer

  • @nobilesnovushomo58
    @nobilesnovushomo58 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the mustasche!

  • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
    @DavidScholz-bu1ix 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact: over in the u k, they actually call the throttle on STEAMIES as the regulator!!!

  • @danielmilitello4795
    @danielmilitello4795 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does anyone notice the sound of the whistle has changed? 1:02

  • @heyitsmegokukai
    @heyitsmegokukai 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "this lever here that's the throttle, this little one here that's the break, and those are the push and weeshes, and that rope is the whistle!" -hero girl polar Express

  • @jacobhinojosa6462
    @jacobhinojosa6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’s very interesting 😍 I always dream about been railroad man

  • @Trainhead23
    @Trainhead23 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey if you ever see barney again ask him about Flagg Coal 75

  • @alvit123
    @alvit123 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and for Anyone wondering the independent brake applies brakes on only the locomotive and it's tender

  • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
    @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You know, many of different types of U K origin steam-driven railway locomotives on 3 different types of gauges of standard gauge @ 56.5" respectfully alongside several narrow-gauge @ 27"alongside minimum-gauge @ 18" respectfully of railway tracks! In fact, if memory actually completely serves me correctly, the officially well-knowingly famously popular Bluebell Railway in England as the officially well-known home of the famously well-known Stepney the Bluebell Engine himself that's been in operation SINCE 196O certainly happens to basically have been 1 of the U K'S own officially official well-known 1st preservation standard gauge(56.5") heritage railways!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      IF I SERIOUSLY WERE ABLE TO PRESERVE THE WELL-KNOWN 1941 BUILT IN LIMA LOCOMOTIVE WORKS STEAM-DRIVEN RAILWAY TENDER LOCOMOTIVE KNOWN AS PERE MARQUETTE #1225 FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS TO COME, I SERIOUSLY COULD HAPPILY TAKE HER OVERSEAS TO THE U K TO GO VISIT THE WELL-KNOWN BLUEBELL RAILWAY IN THE U K SOMEDAY ALONGSIDE ALL THE U K'S HERITAGE RAILWAYS THAT'D BEEN IN OPERATION TO THIS VERY DAY! BESIDES, IT'LL GET TO PULL PLENTY OF EXCURSION TRAINS ALONG THE BLUEBELL RAILWAY DESPITE IT'LL BE OFFICIALLY BURNING A BIG LOAD OF COAL WITH A HIGH THERMO OUTPUT ALONGSIDE HIGH SULFUR CONTENT MEANING THAT WHITE STEAM CERTAINLY WOULD BE CHUFFING FROM THE FUNNEL ON THE BOILER! PLUS, ONCE EVERY SINGLE DECADE, I'LL BE FITTING IT WITH A NEW BOILER WITH A FRESHLY RENEWED BOILER TICKET FOR EACH TIME THAT EACH OF THE OFFICIAL PREVIOUS BOILER TICKETS HAVE EXPIRED!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I seriously do personally happen to actually 1OO% scientifically know that the boiler ticket for a steam-driven railway locomotive's own official boiler lasts for 1 decade by watching an official video on TH-cam several times by NWR1991 titled A New Boiler For James where everyone helped to raise money to get a new boiler built for James the Red Engine himself when his own official previous boiler ticket expired!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      BUST MY BUFFERS!

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      BUST MY BOILER!

  • @MochkhadafiDwiputrawally-jj9zz
    @MochkhadafiDwiputrawally-jj9zz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aye aye captain

  • @andredizon5805
    @andredizon5805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't know the reverser was turned into a wheel

  • @Scag1522
    @Scag1522 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never heard of an automatic whistle valve before.

  • @Bootyclencher-qu8ib
    @Bootyclencher-qu8ib 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That better be there by the time I finsh college because I’m go to drive that thing and soon

  • @user-es2yt7ww9u
    @user-es2yt7ww9u 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:22 i saw the south park teacher mr maky

  • @zalaszente1942
    @zalaszente1942 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:20 bro the fuckin mr macky above the engineer seat XDDD

  • @misterybuilder1898
    @misterybuilder1898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg the... The POLAR EXPRESS?!

  • @1chuck96
    @1chuck96 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unbelievably excellent informative of which IF I EVER have the opportunity to run the '25 which I'll probably forget in the next 10 seconds, (oops...to late, but I persevere), I'll have a pretty good idea of what to do. Does this make any sense to you?

  • @Bootyclencher-qu8ib
    @Bootyclencher-qu8ib 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m gonna take over your job mark my word

  • @twilightanimate9893
    @twilightanimate9893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3:22 did any of you see that picture of mr. Mackey in the top right corner? If you did, respond to this comment saying mkay.

  • @jcl410
    @jcl410 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just thought of a question ... How do you determine the current setting of the reverser wheel?

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Two ways; the first is largely done by feel, listening to how the stack sounds, and by looking at your steam chest / back pressure gauge. Back pressure is the residual pressure of steam as it leaves the cylinder as exhaust. Excessive back pressure is wasteful and actually robs the locomotive of power as it basically begins to work against itself the higher your back pressure is. Most if not all railroads had guidelines on how much back pressure you could operate with going down the line. Starting, you normally throw the reverse lever or wheel into the full forward position, crack the throttle, release the brakes , and wait for the train to start moving. As the train increases speed, you open the throttle more, and start coming back on the reverse gear, making sure you stay under that prescribed back pressure limit (usually between 12 and 16 lbs).
      The second way, which is the high tech way, is through the use of a locomotive valve pilot. This was a device used in the cab that combined the function of the speedometer and valve gear setting vs speed indicator into one gauge. Through dynamometer car testing, etc., the optimal valve gear settings for each speed range could be plotted, then a cam calibrated to control the valve gear setting needle on the gauge. The valve gear needle itself was designed to show the engineer what the optimal speed was for his current valve gear setting. So as the gear was adjusted via the reverse lever or wheel, the valve gear needle would move to indicate what speed the current setting was most optimal for. This way, the engineer could achieve maximum operating efficiency by keeping the valve gear needle and the speedometer needle super-imposed.

  • @jimmymccartney2049
    @jimmymccartney2049 ปีที่แล้ว

    Year built: October,1941

  • @SanityLoser
    @SanityLoser ปีที่แล้ว

    What does blowdown do, or needed for?

  • @jleoneleone8760
    @jleoneleone8760 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My question is at 3:16 why is mister Mackey on the roof of the cab?

  • @raymondszybowicz7597
    @raymondszybowicz7597 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did realize that were was that much to running a steam locomotive.

  • @Andrew-gv4bh
    @Andrew-gv4bh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the maximum speed? On perre Marquette? I search on google a photo with the speed indicator and i saw that the maximum speed is 75 mph. Is it true?

  • @kevp9601
    @kevp9601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Certified Fresh Vanilla Cakes For Very Very Awesome

  • @jimmymccartney2049
    @jimmymccartney2049 ปีที่แล้ว

    Music:Alan Silvestri(2004)
    Lyrics: Glen Ballard

  • @saulayalarodriguez1022
    @saulayalarodriguez1022 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:21 there is a south park reference

  • @user-es2yt7ww9u
    @user-es2yt7ww9u 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    pere marquette 1225 is the best locmotive

  • @bencrawford3846
    @bencrawford3846 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I understand that steam engines need to have two means of injecting water into the boiler, but why does this engine have a cold water pump and a injector? Why not just use two of the same injector? Is it because the pump puts more water into the boiler than the engineer's injector?

    • @FanRailer
      @FanRailer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The cold water pump supplies the feedwater heater (can be controlled by both the fireman or the engineer), which is somehow omitted from this video. Both methods of supplying the boiler with water should be about equal in capacity (~10,000 gallons per hour) The feedwater heater is the preferred method for supplying the boiler with water when the locomotive is in motion, as it uses the exhaust steam to pre-heat the water before pumping it into the boiler via the hot water pump. This saves live steam (which would be used if the engineers non-lifting injecter were used instead). When the engine is sitting idle, obviously there is no exhaust steam available , and so the feedwater heater is no better than the non-lifting injector in terms of economy of usage.

  • @NortheastCorridorFilms
    @NortheastCorridorFilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do locomotives still chug while stopped?

    • @rondaxen88
      @rondaxen88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I could be completely wrong, but I think the "chugging" we might've heard in the video was the air pump....well, pumping.

  • @kevp9601
    @kevp9601 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

  • @cjedwards5414
    @cjedwards5414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    why train vibration

  • @BetamaxFlippy
    @BetamaxFlippy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What the hell is Mr. Mackey doing up there? 3:13

    • @robintheslavewr1513
      @robintheslavewr1513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First thing that came to my mind was "ut oh class retard alart" lol

    • @Runboyrun05
      @Runboyrun05 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robintheslavewr1513 lmao

  • @christopherfreeman3357
    @christopherfreeman3357 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s not how the Engineer drove it in the movie. 🥶

    • @productions4452
      @productions4452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's not much different actually. Its just that in the movie we didn't see him doing anything other than using the gear lever and playing with the break levers

    • @NortheastCorridorFilms
      @NortheastCorridorFilms 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@productions4452 lmao yes

    • @DavidScholz-bu1ix
      @DavidScholz-bu1ix 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@NortheastCorridorFilmsWELL SAID!!!!!

  • @robintheslavewr1513
    @robintheslavewr1513 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The polar Express is actually a Baldwin early model Berkshire made in the early 1930s and the whistel is a Baldwin 3 chime

    • @rondaxen88
      @rondaxen88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope you're just quoting the Know It All kid and not being serious, cause he was wrong lol

    • @robintheslavewr1513
      @robintheslavewr1513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rondaxen88 no he's right go and look up a Erie Baldwin s-3 or s-4 class Berkshire

    • @rondaxen88
      @rondaxen88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@robintheslavewr1513 It looks similar, but he is wrong. The actual train was made by the Lima Locomotive Works. The train in this video *is* the polar express, it was the one it was based off of.

    • @robintheslavewr1513
      @robintheslavewr1513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rondaxen88 well yes it was only based the actual Loco represents a Baldwin s-3 in watch was said in the witch is historically correct

    • @Idksomerando_256
      @Idksomerando_256 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠​⁠@@robintheslavewr1513the know it all was still wrong. Just because the Baldwin s-3 looks similar doesn’t mean it’s the polar express. From what I’ve heard Warner brothers got blueprints from the Pere Marquette 1225 to make the model from the movie, which means the polar express is technically the 1225.

  • @MochkhadafiDwiputrawally-jj9zz
    @MochkhadafiDwiputrawally-jj9zz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    from number (1225) to (D521225)

  • @MochkhadafiDwiputrawally-jj9zz
    @MochkhadafiDwiputrawally-jj9zz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    later the steam locomotive will officially become the property of (PT KAI Indonesia Persero)

  • @legothoron1
    @legothoron1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and no Flux Capacitor

  • @random_JRFreightguy
    @random_JRFreightguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you know the polaer express was made in the L.I.M.A locomotive works incorparated

    • @T128Productions
      @T128Productions ปีที่แล้ว

      True, but in the movie, the know it all kid said it was built by Baldwin. He probably got confused, for a know it all…

    • @SeanJAnimations
      @SeanJAnimations 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Know it all kid also got the year wrong

  • @Molten546
    @Molten546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wheres the flux capacitor

    • @rudycarlson8245
      @rudycarlson8245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right next to the steam pressure gauge

  • @valengdIzaurralde
    @valengdIzaurralde 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    my lenguege is spanish

  • @andrewlakatos1301
    @andrewlakatos1301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was uploaded on April fools