@alphabet sim reservation will be destroyed by itself when caste is destroyed. Whiny casteists have one excuse to justify their bigotry " reservation" get a life. You wouldn't get selected even if there is no reservation
In my experience as an Indian, as long as the guy or girl has good career and money, they will not oppose strongly. But if the future seems bad, they will oppose. In my family I have seen dozens of intercaste marriages. And I have seen people oppose guy from same my caste because he has drinking problem or has bad reputation. Obviously people have married irrespective of parents choice too. I have seen failed intercaste marriages because of very different cultural habits. My aunt married in very regressive business family, and she couldn’t even ask for help when beaten. Her entire family manipulated us. And we could save her. But since then for me the criteria is progressive mindset over any other criteria
@alphabetsim The more intermixed people are, the healthier and more beautiful they are. If I was PM, I would incentivize inter caste marriages. I will also outlaw Cousin Marriages for 5 Generations. Clan system is a disease and this needs to go.
The problem is these people have no guts to change the minds of parents. You have to condition them, have actual conversations. Talk logic. I have seen my parents changing their viewpoints about lgbt, about sex education, because I do talk to them about larger implications. If people just want open minded parents as a gift, that’s not going to happen. We also have to nurture their minds.
@@Kathakathan11 I am so proud to be a Guilt based person in a Shame based society. Also proud to be only person alongside with my brother in both my mother's and father's family to be not be a result of cousin marriages.
That's a big generalisation. You assuming we all are somehow ignorant ironically ur statement is itself ignorant. We have 29 states not Everystate is same nor everyone follows the caste system. Here in northeast we marry whoever we want. My family is full of such marriage even my mom is tribal. So I suppose you meant mainland India when u made that statement?
@dhiman kalita I referred to we because I am presenting my thoughts as a first person talking about them, meaning our society, which I am a part of. Common sense that it ain't ironic. If one of your classmates is a murderer and all other classmates say that murder is a crime, is that ironic?? Just consider some continuity in your analysis rather than discrete way and talk about human psychology. Every human born is born with a tendency of ignorance. The environment in which he or she grows up decides in which way the person is gonna portray his or her ignorance. Countries like India ignorance is "majorly" shown through stuff like corruption, caste system, etc. Countries like pakistan ignorance are shown through terrorism, extreme and blind religious mindset, etc. There is no country that lacks certain aspects. Obviously, you might counter me with a valid argument that the level of ignorance isn't the same from place to place just kike yours and other parts of country. That's exactly where proper education is necessary. And that's also a major thing which in itself our country is having an issue with. I am not even trying to justify that ignorance. I myself am more of a liberal type of guy. I am just talking about the mindset and tendency of humans in society.
Well none of the Indian is ignorant about it! We simply want to keep it, that is why?? Because it gives us our identity and all the added benefits. Otherwise ask Rajput to give up their caste....will they?? Ask, Brahmins to give up....never. You see the phraseology of superior, purest of pure etc. So, caste system will never diffuse from India, rather has deeply intertwined with our political lives.
@@dhimankalita1690 dear, don't forget there are five dedicated schedules meant only for scheduled tribe population in the Indian Constitution to safeguard them from the persecution of the evil system of caste. Go and find about them and the reasons why they are there & kept under direct control of president and not elected representatives? Also, find out the tribal identity of Indian president and her native tribe and it's status. Lastly, the reservation benefits and other schemes for the upliftment of Tribals in India. You guys need to read a lot of sociology.
@@0rhythm_divine0 I like how people like you who have no knowledge about tribes or the problems of North East keep writing long as*essays with no substance. Schedule tribes status is a recent phenomenon and the application of the status in context of North East is different. Atleast learn the history and culture of North East before spitting gobar
Inter caste isn’t the main issue ,the issue is marrying a lower caste .In camera everyone is open minded and modern but behind camera maximum people will avoid this situation.
The bearded spec guy explained it --- it's because India has a joint family system and once a fam member marries outside his or her caste, this whole family loses face in the entire society (not just in the same city but all over the country) - they are refused from attending various functions (birth ceremony, naming ceremony, funeral etc) in the community, they are denied privileges, they are removed from the yearbook - sorta!! Also, these people talk liberally about inter-caste marriage but in reality even when this occurs - it occurs when they marry an immediate adjacent (lower or higher) caste ONLY. It is never more than that. For example a baniya might marry a kshatriya but will never be permitted to marry a brahmin. Importantly, it is the Brahmin priest that presides all Hindu marriages -- and these scoundrels refuse to sing their occultic chants the right way or attempt to do the ritual wrongly ( without anyone knowing) in order to make the marriage fail - per the brahmin belief. This is the secret Brahmin code. Foreign people, even Myanmarese and Thai (for example) are totally unaware and clueless about this mega gravitational force that propagates in total secrecy in India- forget about Europeans and Americans!! India may need to be renamed as Varna (skin color/complexion) -- because it is called Varna System or Skin-Color System or Complexion System (saying Caste-system is a distraction) ( Textbook definition of racism)
That lady who's parents had intercast marriage is PRIME example of a liberal and free spirited person. Thanks to parents for her we'll upbringing and not giving up on their decisions. They did a commendable job. Such parents are biggest pillers for a open minded next generation.
Hi, I have seen many intercaste marriages, but that’s doesn’t guarantee free liberal spirited person. My aunt married in conservative family, so her daughters are allowed to marry only same caste, not even her mother’s caste. 😂 I cannot handle the hypocrisy. She was the only daughter fo rich self made businessman. So she was allowed entry in that family. But oh boy if my cousin mama gets to find rich guy, they will marry her to French person also. My aunt was so disgusted of this, she divorced her husband. Bottom line, intercaste marriages are not about progressive Mindset always.
@@anirbanghosh1670 but my aunt was married to Rajasthani Marwari guy. Biggest mistake ever. We somehow tolerated their regressive ideas for her, but shouldn’t have done that.
I was born in a Jat family in an Uttarakhand village (yeah we are the one with most honor killing cases). Grew up with high overdose of caste stupidity. When my son was born in 2011, we talked about it and gave him a generic Surname which was different from ours, just to make sure that he is not identified by his caste. Never spoke about Caste (or anything that divides people) at home and he never asked. Had discussions with him about equality and how religion, caste, states, North India Vs South India could be divisive - how honesty, kindness are more important. He is turning out to be a fine young man. And on the original Q of inter caste marriage, we hope that one day, our son will introduce his 'someone special' to us and we will welcome her n love her with all our heart.
I'm Chinese, and I didn't realize that the caste system still has such a deep influence on Indians. Of course, every Asian country with a long history has its own special culture and traditions.
I think people should also know that Indian culture is not homogeneous. This kind of caste based marriage DOES NOT MATTER for Eastern Indians, especially people from the Northeast and Bengal. Issues with caste are mostly seen in North and South India.
Because North and South India are culturally rich places where as Eastern parts are home to many brothels. . Edit - I've never seen so many uneducated people together like this 👇👇👇👇👇
@@ashaypallav4158 Wow!!, amazing argument from ur side. so u mean rich in Cast based discrimination. acknowledge ur self and correct it rather than putting others down.
@@ashaypallav4158 what a dumb and disrespectful argument. Are you trying to say that people from Eastern region are the product of sexual debauchery ? Shame that an 'educated' person with internet and an access to vast knowledge can say something so derogatory and wrong. Grow the f*** up
@@xozobueno9106 yes if u specifically ask for it. Otherwise the caste based discrimination doesn't exist at all. Moreover caste has now been limited to pujas and reservation 🙂
That Buddhist talking about his marriage was so heart warming. It's a nice reminder that even if most people from a certain generation hold onto their beliefs with white knuckles, theres still some gems here and there.
I'm not surprised that his parents didn't object since the caste mentality is not ingrained in their religion. I have such conflicting views on this. Personally I cannot see any value in this kind of exclusive social system. On the other hand, I can't comfortably pass judgement on a system that has been in existence for such a long time nor its participants who grew up with its values. It is certainly worthy of an on-going dialogue tho.
In this case, i admire my maa very much. She got married when she was financially independent at the age of 31 back in 2001. I have never seen such an open minded free spirited "parent" like her. She's like my best friend. And let me tell you, we are from a small railway town in Assam, not from a tier 1 city. You won't believe me , she is so open to discuss about my dating life and asks me to date till i find the right one. I feel blessed to have her in my life.
I am from assam too. (Village) My mom is open minded, she is also my best friend, I can share anything with her, I can share about my love life, dating. She is also open minded about dating from a different caste. In our both mother and father family, cousins, relatives all close to their parents, they are open minded about dating, love marriage and All my cousins married people from different castes and love marriage.
As an older American I've spent much of my life interacting with Indian immigrants and internationals, mostly physicians and a few engineers, academics and so forth. In the 1970s a friend in graduate school was very matter of fact about the Caste system. Even in those days, some Indian associates spoke as if the Caste system was an outlawed relic of the past, laughing that it had no relevance to modern living. But others assured me that it was deeply ingrained and alive. I'm not sure how much things have changed today.
@@ashwinvk4124 what you mean most of the indians didn't have gf so it's best option for them because Indian boys mostly need to secure job rather than shitty love
We can simply put this way In mumbai, chennai, delhi, banglore, hyderabad, and other metro cities, the parents may oppose the intercaste marriage but if your partner is exceptionally rich or doing well in his/her career then the parents may approve that But in tier-3 cities or villages its simply not possible and still honor killings happens these days🥲 Indians love their parents and will always follow them blindly no matter how toxic their decisions are.
When she asked about asking people's caste, someone should have explained that finding people's cast is very easy without asking for it. Our surnames give it away, especially if those people are from the same region as you. Also, cinema and shows don't do a good job. Even when the caste is not a matter of concern, the lead role will have a Brahmin or Kshtriya surname. If the lead role is a Police officer then they most often than not have a Kshatriya (Rajput) surname. Even in Akshay Kumar's movie Padman which was based on a real guy, his name was caste-neutral but they ended up giving him upper caste name. Whenever I consciously try to find caste diversity in names of lead characters in Indian movies and shows, I am left disappointed. A few time it is not mentioned, and in cases they are mentioned, it is always a prominent upper caste name.
So very true and I am happily surprised to see one intelligent audience like you who observed this crude fact about Indian Cinema. And you also must be aware of this fact that Cinema is soft yet most powerful tool of to influence the commoners.
@@anirudh2704 true. There is reason which I don't remember but I guess the leaders urged people to not use surnames. Instead use father's name or ancestral home/place as a name. I found that too be a great idea.
@@anirudh2704 Don't lie. Removing surnames doesn't evaporate one's caste. Also caste stratification is most potent in TN. Upper landlord castes like Mudailars, Chettiars, Nadar, velluvars follow caste endogamy and don't marry Dalits. Also, I should make it clear that in TN every single Tamil is aware of his caste. TN gov make sure of that by issuing caste certificates for every Tamil born.
@@bobchill5402 so there are no hot people in so called lower castes??? There lies the problem. There are many upper caste people in movie industry that conventionally dont look hot. Like Manoj Bajapayee, Pankaj Tripathi or Sanjay Mishra. Not saying these people don't deserve the praise. Infact, they deserve more. All of them are brilliant actors. I just named them because they made it even without hot looks, which in turn proves caste plays a role and looks aren't everything.
It's easy to nod when asked if intercaste marriage is possible But in reality it's very much difficult My own friend from maratha caste wasn't able to marry his GF from his own caste bcoz his GF was different maratha 😂
@@37kaustubhjagtap97 वो क्या झमेला है, क्या मालुम 🤭 But maratas considers kunbis lower 🥲 The whole hindu unity is lie, Where self declared savarna maratas can't be United, you can't make hindus unite
Happened to me too, I girl in matrimonial site asked which state Rajput I was from, I was himachali and she was from UP so she said we cant marry each other because they are searching for UP Rajput, wierd!!! If religion and caste weren't enough for them they added state to the mix too, next thing you know she is marrying her cousin!
The girl with glasses made a really good point by pointing out the difference in what pop culture each caste is exposed to. Social class around the world affects your proximity to gaining cultural capital and you don't often hear about it as a topic of discussion!
That young girl in spectacles... Just nailed it !! She has a very good understanding. I have one complain for Asian boss they should be more open to native languages, they can dub it in different language or provide subtitles. They only do this in India. I'm not against the people speaking in English. But we allow more languages people from all social backgrounds can be on mic because not everyone in India speak English.
@@bonkergirl No because speaking in english may act as barrier for many people in india in expressing themselves as many people in india are not fluent in english especially people from poor and marginalised background, so this way they will never be on the mic and again we will not be listening people from diverse background.
My friend from school in Malaysia is of Indian lineage. Her mother is Maharashtrian Brahmin as well. Her father is from a different caste. They eloped in the mid 70s. However the mother's uncle apparently helped the couple in love to elope and was a witness to their marriage.
@@introvert6696 mostly brahmim girls? Percentage of Interfaith marriage is very low in india and that too hindu and muslim women stands at the bottom of the list .sikh and christian women have a much high percentage of interfaith marriage
Forget about inter-caste. Even the same caste marriage is opposed is opposed if the guy or the girl isn't rich enough (mostly the guy is rejected) ... 🤣🤣
You don't even know the difference between class and caste. A poor upper caste guy won't be restricted inside a temple but our previous President Kovind sir " lower caste" was stopped. This is caste system where even the top most designation is not safe from this social evil.
I mean if you w at to marry alcoholic, do it at your own expense. You want family extravaganza, no need of that. Guy is rejected more because girl goes in his home. Practically it should be house bought or rented by both 50:50.
@@0rhythm_divine0well let's say an lower caste adopted an uppercaste name and using that, they faked their are uppercadtes and married but in the official docs, that guy is a lower caste, then that's a false and fake marriage. Personally, I don't like that
@@cricket12ish But relatives still appreciate you for becoming a doctor and upgrading your life. Yes, you still get fronwed upon because of your past, but remember society cares about only MONEY and if you are rich people will give to respect easily. I have seen so many people getting discriminated based on various reasons, but it gets over as they get rich. Money is the key and it solves every single problem.
Many of my classmates say that for our generation class does not matter but the truth is that when the time comes they either give up due to social pressure or in the depths of their mind that they too look down on lower caste people.
You got it right! I have severed many friendships over casteism, sadly when we liked each other but their control system was their parents and if course caste members.
hmm... most of my classmates do believe that castes don't matter and I've never seen any of my friend/classmate do things like that . I switched schools after 10th grade and no one in our class asked for my caste and I didn't ask anyone either (pretty weird thing to ask for someone's caste). Even after entering college last year, Caste was the last thing on our minds while building friendships. But India is HUGEEE so it is possible that people who do that exist too.
I'm mixed race (Japanese and Pacific Islander), and I grew up in the island of Yap. Yap has a social caste system similar to India's that has existed for centuries. In our system, there are essentially six castes - each being divided into a variety of subclasses. In order of precedence, the chiefly caste, the noble caste, the commoners, and the three serf castes. Inter-caste marriages among the chiefly, noble and common castes are pretty common, but people in the serf castes face a barrier in marrying anyone in the upper classes. Each village is ranked from the highest and most powerful (the chief villages) to the lowest (the serf villages. And yes serfs). On the individual level, i.e., within the village, each person has their own caste rank. My village is actually commoner for instance, but my own rank is the warrior sub-class of the noble caste. My clan was one of the clans in my village chosen to fight for the chiefs in wars and battles Caste discrimination used to be quite prevalent, esp. against those in the serf classes, but it has declined substantially since the late 20th century
😂😂If I tell you, there is so much variation/Diversity in India that I could😊 have to write a book on it. To give you just one example, here along with castes, there are sub-castes within those castes. Marriages take place in those sub-castes but from the ∆ GOTRA SYSTEM. ∆ So that there is no mixing of blood of a family, therefore even the gotras of mother, father and grandmother are seen. If they meet, then they become brother and sister, then that marriage cannot happen even if they are of the same caste. But here now this much does not happen in inter caste marriage, but if religion is different then a lot happens. 🙁🙁like end of family 😮
@@zojozojo-ox6wj no mixing or mixing ?? Same gotra people have same ancestors,so if same gotra people won't marry then genetic disorder will not emerge
The Indian caste system is just a form of feudalism and it existed in basically every society in the world. The British Royal Family is a form of a caste system, but the Western media is too stupid to understand that.
@@porothashawarma2339 yes tattoos help identify people and show off their accomplishments. Accomplished individuals, for instance, can get full tattoos on their upper torso and their arms, while lords and members of the warrior class can get full body tats including on their hands
Caste system is a system of birth based racial segregation of workers, it was introduced in largely Buddhist Indian subcontinent about 1200 years ago by Iranian fire worshippers who escaped to India after the Arab conquest of Persia, Higher castes are less than 15% and have higher percentage of Iranian DNA, Racism is the core of Brahmanical caste system, these migrating Iranians were responsible for genocide of Buddhists and eradication of buddhism in India, 95% of marriages in India are arrange marriages, arrange marriage is a mechanism to maintain the caste system, Indian parents from upper castes dont blink an eye killing their own kids if they marry someone from lower caste, this is the reality of Hindu/Brahman caste/varna based ugly religion. Indian was a religious and moral society when it was a Buddhist country, 1200 years ago it all changed, they (Iranian Brahmans) killed all the Buddhist and eradicated Buddhism from India, now its a slave society where less than 15% upper caste Hindus (Higher percentage of Iranian DNA) rule over more than 85% lower caste Indians, they rape, torture, murder them whenever they want, they control everything, In Hindu/Brahmanical caste system which is a birth based segregation system of workers, all the manual labor has been assigned to lower and untouchable castes whereas all the non manual labour work has been assigned to higher castes, that is why the quality of Indian labor is very poor because the labor class is demoralized by birth by giving them the label of untouchable lower caste, and caste system is not like class system, it is like a building with multiple floors and there are no stairs connecting any of the floors. you will stay where you are until you die. We need a blood revolution in India to destroy Hinduism and Brahmans to become a modern and progressive country.
I am from Assam, India. (Village) My parents are open minded about marrying from other caste. In both our mother's and father's families, cousins, relatives are all quite open minded about inter-caste marriages. All my cousins married people from different castes. But religion still matters. I think it is different for different people and which part of India they belong to. It depends on people, family and society how open minded they are. Some people are open minded and some are not. Nowadays people are changing and becoming more open minded than before.❤
My childhood frnd is also from NE (Manipur) & yes parents r open minded about caste or love marriage ..i like it & NE india is so peaceful I feel jelous i live in Delhi & I'm tired of voilence ,politics , daily fights ,I'm tired bro 😑
@@miss_yaya_yuxiYeah. I agree that our northeast people are more open minded about Inter Caste and love marriage etc. I am lucky too, my parents sre supportive about love marriage and caste too. I have seen North Indian are more conservative than us. I also agree that Delhi is getting worst day by day. It's now one of the worst city in india. Lot of problems, crime in Delhi. Even foreigner also say same thing about Delhi. I think nowdays living in a indian village or country side is better than big city. It's more peaceful.
Low percentage of inter-caste marriages is faithfully reflected in the custom of arranged marriages, which has the same prevalence of about 95% of all marriages in India. As match-making is about matching socioeconomic variables of both parties, matching the caste factor first automatically matches up many other variables that generally result from caste-based exposures, experiences and resources. Since marriage by match-making is a convenient "short cut" (meanwhile one might date people of any caste), the rural society will need to encounter newer pressures before inter-caste marriages could become more common.
I just watched this on NETFLIX and I must say the individuals who participated where extreme NARCISSIST’s except a few were kind and of excellent character. I was shocked just like this discriminating behavior that exists…WOW. 🤷🏻♀️👀
@@stephanieallangarman5598 I'm not shocked that discriminative values exist bc they exist in all societies, including here in Canada. Just bc we deal with different discriminatory practices doesn't make them any better than the caste system.
In rural areas castes live segregated, so for them it’s about resources, literal water resources. So they will favour if resources add up. Like if land rich families marry and share water wisely. Or political families colluding. No one talks of how celebs marry businessmen. But when local rural people do that, it’s OH NO moment . I think it’s logical for many people. My only concern is if your son daughter don’t want that privilege and want to marry for love, don’t kill them or exclude them, just respect their decision. Have seen in my family, where people oppose, but in the end they attend the marriage and invited the intercaste people in all functions.
@@stephanieallangarman5598 discrimination is everywhere, they are people who still want to enslave black, who still 8mpose their western culture on African societies. Look at cobalt mining and the social discrimination there in Ghana
The topics that Asian boss addresses are phenomenal. One suggestion that I would like to give is that although all of them spoke well in English, it would be better if the interviewees are given the option to speak in their mother tongue (local language) as they do in other Asian countries so that they can express themselves even better.
Everyone would speak different languages then. In India all of us in tier 1 and tier 2 cities are used to speaking in English because the crowd is multi cultural. Everyone from different states comes to tier 1 cities making English the common language.
Some cities in the USA have recently had to extend our civil rights laws to include caste systems, because of the immigrants that have become part our population. In short, many of the Indian population in the USA are prejudiced against other Indians, so this law amendment had to be created here in the USA.
What prejudice.? propaganda I suggest you do the same with Quran, that says girl has to convert to islam to marry a muslim man. Is there any resolution for that?
@@FromPlanetZX This law in the US extends to employers discriminating upon cast, tf does someone becoming muslim to marry have to do with employment dummy
Inter caste marriages are becoming less and less of an issue. Inter religion marriages though (excluding Hindu- Sikh/Buddhist/Jains) are definitely an issue .
Inter religious marriages, well marry the women in progressive household only, she will have no protection if you marry her in regressive families. She will be isolated and you won’t even know your own sister is facing marital rape and torture. What every religion it is. The only benefit of caste is, you will have common relatives, like my 5th cousin is your 6th cousin. And their will be some conflict resolution.
@@V-for-Vendetta01 even my cousins, all elder to me have done intercaste marriages. And only one was opposed from marrying her boyfriend, as he was not earning enough as per the parents. Which was true, but they lost the gem of a person. I have hope for them. We are trying to convince her parents to accept the guy, give him an year to change his situation. Helping him with the exams .
You know what it's not easy. The previous generation ie our parents suck when it comes to intercaste marriage. And we say this generation don't care but they do they are lying saying they don't care. My friend when I first met her asked me what is my caste😂 I know she didn't mean anything bad but why does it matter. People should be treated as individuals. ❤️❤️ Spread love not hate.
And that girl was quite ignorant because she didn't guessed it by your name itself. And you are cent percent cent right that we Indians LIE a big tip, when we say we don't care.
Our generation living and grown up in city definitely don't care about caste. Especially in cities like Mumbai, cause from childhood I've been interacting with literally all sorts of people from different states and languages. So it never really crossed our minds that caste is significant. I've been to Bangalore, Kerala and Hyderabad and have stayed there for solid 3-4 months in each city and the vibe was same. Used to see couples of all sorts. But in Kolkata it was different tbh. Everything felt strict regarding relationships and marriages. But again we are seeing lot couples from different caste and background marrying twice with each other in respect to their traditions and cultures. Another thing about caste is, our government itself gives lot of importance to it. So it's difficult to avoid it and hence it remains in the subconscious of people that caste is significant in our lives lol
Of course the caste system is still very much rooted in India! Especially in the villages it is deeply embedded in everyone's mind! Even now the lower castes in our village are not allowed to enter our village temple.
Try to change the society. So called lower castes are not allowed in temple and you guys get angry when they convert to Buddhism. In my society nobody asked caste while entering temples . We don't do discrimination and every caste is equally happy to be part of the religion we belong
@@Abhi46159 we don't care if you convert but don't insult after you are converting which you don't have the right... second know the difference between Agama and Tantric Hindu Temples... in a Tantric Temple all are allowed, in Agama Temples there are certain rules everyone should follow... even as Higher Castes we cannot enter into temple chambers which is built by a sudra... or a Dalit or a Vaishya or a Brahmin even... it is same like how you cannot tell Muslims to allow Women along with Men into their Mosques... certain rules cannot be changed... Agama Temples are mostly a particular Jatti's Ancestor's place... not actually a Temple so there for that Jatti only first right comes in... know the difference....
Marriage taking place intra-caste has a strong link with wealth preservation. People often did this because they wanted to keep their wealth in their own community. PS: it was a thing of the past, it continued on
I think most of these people are referring to upper castes when they are talking about their experiences of intercaste marriages. Its extremely rare to see lower-upper caste marriages cuz all the prejudice flows down the caste heirarchy especially the Dalits. It would much more insightful to hear the experiences of Dalits/lower caste people.
Upper caste man and lower caste woman is ok as per the scripture like Manusmriti also. But vice versa lower caste boy(more so Dalit) and upper caste girl is extremely rare even may lead to honour killing
@@cricketlovers3013 sahi to hai, it is naturally only. Ladkiyo ke sapane me Rajkumar hi aata hai, bhikhari nhi. Western countries me dekha hai ladkai ko poor man se shadi karte huye. Aur lower caste wali hi honour killing karte hai, lagta hai news nhi padhate tum.
@@FromPlanetZX kha se news padh rahe . Honour killing can happen both ways but it happens mostly from dominate castes(try sairat movie ) And caste division is not solely based on race so how you assume all lower caste people to be bad looking and poor .After British and independence affluent well educated and well settled class has emerged from lower class people (SC St OBC ). they can also happen to be good looking too with whom upper caste girls may fall in love too .
@@cricketlovers3013 oh bhai, ye ladkiyo ki tarah, i feel like, i think, this should, it shouldn't be like that, types of argument na do. aur ye movie ka refrence kaun deta hai bhai. local news padhana suru karo, bhaut sare cases hai. aur leftist type argument mat do, ki idhar se hi hota hai, udhar se hi hota hai, to sab chalta hai. upper caste ko blame karne se pehle kyu nhi socha, ki ab lower caste ko defend karne aa gaye. and you still haven't counter my point, why girls/women all over the world across caste, creed, color, race, religion select a man above their status. aur ek do exception de ke counter mat karna, ye maths ka theorem nhi hai jo exception se fail ho jayega.
i'm glad this video found me. Currently struggling with the fact that my future inlaws don't want my partner and I to get married because he's from India, living in EU and I'm from EU. The wedding is in one month after 5 years of battling and sacrificing and hoping... I would love to hear about the stance on intercultural marriages in India. I've seen many Indian-Other couples so far in europe and abroad, but never in India. Guessing from personal experience that it's not very well regarded, hoping for some nuances though.
The in migration in India is very low, but we do have inter cultural interracial marriages. Obviously progressive people won’t mind white bahu/damad. But if they were African, I don’t know. I just want to say, it’s a society with its own stereotypes and tolerance is comparatively increasing. It’s complex society, not all are progressive, not all re regressive. Being traditional doesn’t mean regressive either. We are happy that we have had huge legacy of socio religious reform movements where the base concept was humans are equal. And spiritually we all are same, we all are souls. So I hope these basic messages are remembered more by people of my country. Our constitution was framed by bold people who dreamt of ideal equal society and these values have seeped in. I am optimistic Indian. Congratulations and may Krishna bless you with happy married life.
Indians outside India are very liberal and are open to interracial marriages. Infact in Indian cities too, there is great acceptance for interracial marriage but in case of rural areas it's different. Rural India is very much tribalistic and backward.
If you are white, rich and affluent, docile and agreeable personality, means interested in changing your ways to your partners ways, then you can have your happily ever after.....but....if you are assertive, have your own views, perceptions, opinions and preferences regarding everything in life including your ideas of married life, I would say think twice hard.
It's fascinating to see the differing answers from people here. It shows how your upbringing, the kind of social circle you had growing up, etc. shapes your opinion. They may make you feel like caste is no longer an issue or you may feel that caste is a big issue.
I am Chinese and I have to say that before I watched this video, I thought the caste system is a past thing in India and nobody cares about it… After this video, I found out that I was wrong… The culture is rooted in our heart even if we want to change it. It is hard to change. But I believe that everything will be ok someday.
Many of us do hope too . However It becomes an issue because many Indian parents believe that their kids must follow what they have to say in everything especially when it comes to marriage.
This was a very interesting topic, thank you for interviewing and thanks to these people who are open about discussing their culture and own experiences
5:07 So true... its actually the parents who are so possessive about their children. I hear from half of my friends who literally complain how their parents don't allow them to date or marry inter-caste. I'm ngl, this parental pressure will eat us someday.
Most Indians don't like intercaste marriages because they don't want to give up their caste and tribal identity. Even though it doesn't give them any real privileges, they take pride in their caste identity.
Caste system is a system of birth based racial segregation of workers, it was introduced in largely Buddhist Indian subcontinent about 1200 years ago by Iranian fire worshippers who escaped to India after the Arab conquest of Persia, Higher castes are less than 15% and have higher percentage of Iranian DNA, Racism is the core of Brahmanical caste system, these migrating Iranians were responsible for genocide of Buddhists and eradication of buddhism in India, 95% of marriages in India are arrange marriages, arrange marriage is a mechanism to maintain the caste system, Indian parents from upper castes dont blink an eye killing their own kids if they marry someone from lower caste, this is the reality of Hindu/Brahman caste/varna based ugly religion. Indian was a religious and moral society when it was a Buddhist country, 1200 years ago it all changed, they (Iranian Brahmans) killed all the Buddhist and eradicated Buddhism from India, now its a slave society where less than 15% upper caste Hindus (Higher percentage of Iranian DNA) rule over more than 85% lower caste Indians, they rape, torture, murder them whenever they want, they control everything, In Hindu/Brahmanical caste system which is a birth based segregation system of workers, all the manual labor has been assigned to lower and untouchable castes whereas all the non manual labour work has been assigned to higher castes, that is why the quality of Indian labor is very poor because the labor class is demoralized by birth by giving them the label of untouchable lower caste, and caste system is not like class system, it is like a building with multiple floors and there are no stairs connecting any of the floors. you will stay where you are until you die. We need a blood revolution in India to destroy Hinduism and Brahmans to become a modern and progressive country.
Being raised outside India, but coming back to study in India, I can say people's caste identities are so important - when I start speaking my native tongue, they immediately identify my caste and comment on it. I'm lucky to be considered 'upper' and therefore do not face marginalisation but I can't imagine how it must feel for those who are 'lower' (>:( ) to experience this identification and have to deal with people's preconceptions
It's very painful and derogatory. You can become president,PM, CM, DM,doctor , engineer, businesseman etc but you can't escape caste . Everytime When you are asked to tell your full name not just first name (pura nam kya likhte/surname kya likhte etc) you are being judged and made to feel lower . Worst feeling
Dude think about Reservati0n these people are taking, they have special acts like SC/ST, and because of that many UC/OBC families are suffering. UC girls were s€×ually harr@sed, objectified, r@p*d and thre@ten with SC/ST if speak to someone.
Choosing someone from your own varna(Caste) to marry isn't a discrimination, it's more about protecting your own genes & passing on your genetic qualities to your next generations. Ex. When you can get the same skill color from your 1000s of years old ancestors, type of nose your great great grandmother can easily appear on your face, then why you can not trust that your genetic qualities can also pass on to your next generations?? For example it's only Kshatriyas (Varna or Caste of Kings, Rulers, Warriors, fighters, sportsperson who form army) who used to take responsibility to protect the society & fight in case of a war thus possessing exceptional fighting & physical qualities, it's only them & their generations from both Kshatriya parents who used to sacrifice their lives for the country, their women used to become widow, their children used to become Orphans. Bhahmans (Varna or Caste of Educators, Priests, Saints, Gurus, Monks, Discovers, Scientists) who marry amongst themselves & protects their genes & pass on their specific qualities like intelligence to their next generations. a lots of whom give up their all materialistic life & work & think for society's wellbeing, only survive on Bhiksha (respectful begging) from society. a lots of time they used to spend years in mountains doing meditations to find solutions for the society like Buddha found enlightenment by leaving his materialistic life. Vaishya (Varna or Caste of Traders, entrepreneurs, businessmen, rich people) Shudras ( Workers, artists, servicemen) who always had a particular skill to work for the society, the skill which their ancestors passed on to him, which they had achieved mastery from generations of harnessing & practice. works like making metallic weapons & tools Now there is a factor of present day inter-caste Discrimination, which is a social problem not a religious on at all & there is no evidence that it existed before 1000 years ago. this discrimination only came after, invaders from Arab, Central Asia came to INDIA thus burned Indian universities, killed Millions, looted & demolished 100s of 1000s of temples which used to be source of knowledge at that time. Sanatana Dharma (Hinduism) is the only religion, where there are more female goddesses than male gods, where many many Trees, plants, animals like cows, mother earth, the moon, the sun, planets of solar system, wind, fire, soil, Rivers like Ganga, even small water stream are considered as holly & worshipped. Hindus had been always vegetarians before foreign invasion & it's culture got mixed with Hinduism. still today more than 50% don't like to kill animals to fill their stomach. where can you find nature so much integrated in the Religion & culture? these thing can justify Hinduism's enlightenment, love, care & empathy towards nature which has always been there since 1000s of years & form oldest religion, oldest languages, oldest civilization of the world. INDIA is a land, from where 4 of the world's major religions made up of Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism & Buddhism originated. all four are just members of the same family which have same principles & value system of love & empathy towards other human beings & nature, unlike Abrahamic religions, which are just hollow block & only have a agenda to conquer & rule the world.
I can tell you it will never go away. Because the caste system today is associated with social interaction and distribution of economic resources, as India becomes wealthier, the wealth gap becomes greater, the caste system will become worse and worse. Not only inter-caste but also intra-caste.
As an indian If you and your partner belong to same cast chances of you getting married are 90 percent and if you belong to a different cast than your partner chances of you getting married are 10 Percent
If you've a spine you could marry anyone (if the other person consents as well). But yeah technically you lose some support from family. There's a reason why countries like US has individualistic societies.
@@peteck007 not some support here in india you have to lose everyone parents cousins uncles aunts nobody will support you if you marry outside of your caste so other than hurting everyone younger generation prefers to marry someone within their own caste
@@peteck007 man India the whole society treats you as outcast or bad influence making you loner and life harder atleast USA doesn't do that that's the difference
@@rosec_rose6661 you probably don't live in India, we've had neighbours who married through "intercaste marriages". They never had a problem, since they didn't belong to my caste neither the people in the area belong to their castes. So that's how it works out. But yeah choose to live somewhere else other than the same caste neighbourhood. But yeah the neighbours are always there to help. It's not like every caste out there is going to shun you lol.
Just looking at major Indian newspapers and their matrimonial ads column would tell you how marrying inside the same caste is still relevant in Indian culture. I had two such friends, they both have the same story. Fell in love with a guy friend, some of their family knew about it and even liked the guy. But when they completed their college and the talk of marriage came, it was made clear that they cannot marry outside of caste. In India, for majority of people, Social Status matters more than the happiness of their kids. This is the case within a single religion, Imagine the hurdle for people who want to marry someone from another religion, or the people wanting to have a same-sex marriage.
They Indians do not marry within their "caste" which are only 4 in number they marry within their "jati" i.e. someone with similar religious profile (kuldevi, ishta devi, samskara requirements). It is similar to westerners marrying within their Church
@@DhruvKumar-tf3gw The job of creating castes was given to Lord Herbert Risley in the 1870s. He is the one who created the hierarchy of castes and sub-castes. This list was then inserted into the British Indian census beginning 1880s and Indians had to compulsorily select one caste. Most Indians did not have a clue.
@@taitreyarr2715 and also you hypocrite 😒 He divided it on the basis of race not CASTE and the division had nothing to do with hierarchy it was to better understand the ethnic group of india
The first girl was on point. Props to her for understanding the corruption and systemic discrimination because of caste system which is indoctrinated into our daily lives without us knowing about it.
who's from lower caste in Hindu caste system ,faces discrimination "untouchability" still very much prevalent in Hindu society . It's worst form of human torture . Marrying outside caste is not possible Honour killings and you cant even marry within your caste " gotra (subcaste) . It's worst form of torturing . Untouchables are called Dalits and crime against so called untouchables happening through the country even in 2023. It exist everywhere in India.
In my state, majority people doesn't care about gotra. Recently I came to know about this thing and now I might sound a bit conservative here but gotra is pure genetics and hence are told to avoid marrying within the same gotra as these may lead to transfer of genetic disorders to your kids . And I am not making this up you can read about it and scientific report was published about it . Everything other thing that you mentioned is absolutely not good which is happening in our country.
@@surjalikadeb2829 pure genetics ? Indian population is inbreeding , people practicing endogamy. Imagine a caste having 500 gotra in single state now they are marrying eachother it continues from more then 1500 years in India still continuing till this day you don't have genetic diversity you endup marrying your own family tree . In some caste female gotra doesn't count . The large population collapse is ahead . Marrying outside your caste can prevent genetic disease of newborn in your family.
@@vidurrajwat-ow4cd4ii3u caste and gotra are two different thing . Yes caste system should be abolished. All I am saying is that gotra is different , a caste having 500 gotra is not an issue but marrying the one who shares the same gotra should be avoided because both in religious texts and science it does shows that the chances of genetic disorders is more likely to happen to the kids who having parent falling in the same gotra . And as you said girl's gotra doesn't even consider doesn't mean that she doesn't have genes inherited from her parents . Do you even know that a kid shares 51 percent and 49 percent similarity in their blood with their mom and dad respectively. But Do you mean that you are an exception where your kid won't inhert anything from the mother ? Obviously it's your life Mary whomever you want and I have nothing to do with that but yeah gotra thing I said might sound unreal but it is not.And If this happens then either you or your wife may have recessive disorder genes that may not be seen in your health because they are in hybrid condition but can get transmitted if both genes get matched. Different caste marriages and different gotra marriages should do happen for the genetic diversity to happen. And these thing like in breeding and endogamy is absolutely a burden.
Can Indians marry outside their caste ? Yes. However, it affects where you are living, how economically you are independent and how much you love your partner, to face some struggles if it comes. Love will overcome all difficulties, if not it's not true love, I hope !
The question of whether Indians can marry outside their caste is a complex and contentious issue that touches upon deep-seated cultural and social beliefs. This serves an awareness, this can be featured on Off the Record. :)
I suggest Asian Boss to visit different states in India since it’s diverse. In Punjab, Sikhs practice less casteism, and in Tamil Nadu, Caste system is nearly abolished due to the influence of the Activist Periyar in 1900’s, so much that everyone takes their dad’s name and not their family/caste name in Tamilnadu.
Leave it bro, we will develop and change our caste into oc 🫡 and when anyone asks about the cultural traditions we can simply say we grew up without family traditions.😂 That's my plan if I ever marry and have kids 😎
Congratulations for your excellent vidéo! Definitely among the best ones! Not only casts still matter but also local languages, traditions and cultures . Let’s just pick up one exemple : Gujarati marry mostly with Gujarati even while living abroad! India will overcome this issue over the decades.
So based on this, it just seems like the caste system has been systemically labeled and organized, but it doesn’t feel too different from how social classes work in other countries. While we like to talk about social freedoms and acceptance everywhere nowadays, social classes are still very much real almost everywhere, and it’s unusual for higher classes to marry lower classes, not just because of discrimination but because of lack of interaction. Someone who went to a private school in New York City and then studied Law in Harvard will be rather unlikely to marry a mechanic from the Bronx. Partly because there just aren’t many places where they’d interact, but also because there would be considerable social backlash around the higher class party. India probably has much stronger caste discrimination and conflict, and emphasizes it more, but let’s not pretend like most of our respective countries don’t also feature a reasonably large divide between the higher and the lower classes.
brahmins are also having many sub castes, maratha brahmin won't like to marry bengali brahmin even if they both are shrivastav, region also make difference
I personally know more than 10 intercaste or inter religion married couples who got hitched in past five years . Each one of them said something similar like, You see parents are fine with it as long as your partner is well educated,earns decent and can share responsibilities.
Intercaste marriages in India today are not as strict as they were a few years ago. I am from one of the least developed districts of an Indian state. And if inter-caste marriages are happening in and around my villages which are the last-tier villages of India then it means now it is becoming normal in India. Yes, it will take a few more years to reach its peak.
May be not in your area but the state where i was grown is really strict i can assure people can even go to honour killing for inter caste marriages. My own family and relatives though they don't support honour killing they can easily disown their family member if done inter caste marriage. And sadly we are not even in village we are in smart city all family are well educated 🥲 I don't know how to change this people mindset even education failed to do so..
Caste is basically like class of Europe... derived from Portuguese word Casta. Like Clergy - Brahmins, Kshatriya - Nobels, Vaishya - Traders/Peasants, Shudra - Nobels. Last Untouchable is not mentioned anywhere but developed out of social division during and later was mentioned in Manu smriti. It's just like the Royals of England don't marry locals...They find other nobles from Scotland/Wales. It is kind of similar. But Indian caste system is little different, because one time during 5th century there were some misinterpretations, and it resulted in believing that caste is based on birth. There were many reasons for that. Misinterpretation of word Varna and Jati. Truth be told caste was never to strictly followed before 1- 2 Century AD. Caste is basically called as Jati in Hindi, but Jati actually refers to Hierarchy more like Clan. Like many people in India will have names like Srivas, Dhobi, Raut which depicts that in the past their ancestors did some word related to their surname, but for many like Yadav, Rajput, Jatt, it is a clan. But both are considered as Jati/caste in Modern India, but it is very different.
Still royal blood married megan , but they didn't killed them just because they married apart from royal blood. But Indians do kill other caste especially lower caste people which is a problem.
@@cricketlovers3013 even so called "lower" castes (although I don't think they r lower by any means) don't accept inter caste marriages. I've seen it first hand, boy, girl both not upper caste but diff casts, it came down to fist fights and they finally eloped. Both families brandished them
@@cricketlovers3013 they don't even consider jaat, gujjar etc also as kshtriya it is just like they classified specify caste can be called but whereas jaat gujjar yadav consider each other as kshatriyas altogether it is kinda BS coz basically everyone is mixed from the origin (scientifiaclly)
I’m an African American born and raised in the USA…I grew up with many Indian friends and I had Indian clients years ago when I was in the Cosmetology business. Both men and women. We also eat at their restaurants and shop sometimes at the Indian grocery stores. We definitely stay and patronize the hotels. One of my family member is currently in India and she’s visiting her boyfriend’s family for the first time. We are very Dark Skin African Americans, educated, and we’re Christian. But my family member and her very nice Indian boyfriend are very happy together. Yes, he was born and raised in Northern India and yet they have so much in common, and are in love. I pray that it works for them and his family seems very friendly and hospitable to my cousin since she’s been there.
Learning about the caste system made me understand why indians in Zambia (my country of birth) were and still are discriminatory towards us black people. When I moved to Australia I noticed they're so open to marrying white people and assimilating to western cultures than African ones despite some indians having been in Africa for over 200 years.
Do U think Kashmiri Himachal Dogra Pasthun Pahadi Taraki Look Like South or Marathi u say Is it possible?? We r Native To Afghanistan Pakistan And Lower Iran😊
This problem is mostly present in Rural communities and urban community with relatives in villages also practice this. Slowly the castes are being dissolved and with more urbanization we will see complete eradication of caste system maybe in 2-3 generations.
@@Vicky-wu3rz I'm from patna my neighbour did intercaste marriage 😂 and in my family my uncle did too we are not living modern area of patna though i think upper caste people don't accept their children marry someone from lower caste but lower caste people don't care caste system too much
Actually many castes were formed due to these kind of marriages in ancient times. Karna was a sut putra - This sut caste is not lower caste but was a result of Brahmin + Kshatriya wedlock - These people mostly drive Chariots or related to chariots (Ami Ganatra’s book)
I am honestly a little surprised at these reactions. I am 43 yrs of age and my parents had an inter-caste marriage. And I did not know about it till the age of 14 - not because they wanted to hide the fact or anything. Just because it was an irrelevant piece of information. The topic of caste never really came up in our family discussions, even our extended family on both sides never mentioned it. One day when I came back from school, I was discussing my day with my Mom, as I generally did, when I mentioned how one of my closest friends kept going on and on about how she was an elite Brahmin. It was then that she asked me why didn't I tell her(my friend) so was I, and I was like "I am? Oh! I didn't know that!". So it was at the grand old age of 14 that the caste system I had read about in books became a reality for me. I suddenly was a Brahmin - and trust me, I did not see any wings sprouting upon knowing that. I then came to know my dad was a Brahmin and Mom was a lower caste. I was very surprised cuz my Mom's side of the family had more educated and well-placed relatives than my dad's side. My dad never had any qualms in revealing how money was always scarce in his growing up years. Some of my paternal uncles had to drop out of college to support the younger siblings' education. So even though I loved and respected both sides of my family, I always knew my mother's side had the higher social and financial standing. So basically, a person's caste never was , neither is , nor will be important for me. I am surprised - and more than a little disappointed - there aren't more responders saying the same.
This is very common story in bengali house didi. But i think if one is doing inter linguistic community , interfaith marriage then girl should see that how girls are treated in laws home. How much freedom to marry out of community they have. Because I have seen some hndu family they don't allow their daughter to marry out side but they are ok if their son marry outside. Typical patriarchal mindset. I don't think it's a good idea for liberal community woman to marry in a conservative community.
@@anirbanghosh1670 That, I do agree with. Fortunately, all inter-linguistic marriages that I know of (and there are many such marriages in my immediate family, and close friends) have worked out beautifully. They are few of the happiest couples I know.
@@aninditabanerjee2420 I'm just guessing that all those interlinguistic marriage that u have seen in ur life. U would seldom find bihar /up/Haryana women are marrying Bengali men. They can't actually marry out of community. But u will see men from those community marry Bengali women. And their children aren't learning Bengali language. Is it true in ur observation? And Bengali man mostly marry marathi and South Indian.
@@anirbanghosh1670 Two of my closest female friends - one Punjabi and another from UP married South Indian boys (Chennai and Andhra). In the inter-linguistic marriages in my family, the new members in the family are from Andhra and Maharashtra. So, for the most part, you are right.
@@xenzorygames4116 but bro,we don't practice caste system in our state,i didn't even know caste system existed untill I reached highschool,I think Arya and tribal people has lot of different things,well whatever it doesn't matter,have a good day brother
@@blheq Arya aren't even a People... but a title given to people who have mastered vedas... there are even Tibetian Aryas... FYI... Tribes like how they don't marry certain Tribes because of the issues they have with each other for example in my state andhra pradesh Naidus and Reddy's will not get married even though both are Sudras... because both were warring each other for a long time since Medivel era... Reddy's were original tribe of Andhra while Naidu's came from Tulunadu and became part of the Telugu society... that is the same reason as your's but nowadays we learnt to forgive them and then nowadays even Nadius and Reddy's are marrying even though historically both hated each other...
@@blheq Caste simply is a parameter to identify and differentiate from one another ,Tribal also follow the same order . Call it caste or Tribes name it makes no difference . And every single tribe consider themselves better than other and the rivalry is much bitter and deep .
@@xenzorygames4116 Their is no relation of word Arya with Veda, in Sanskrit it simply means " Noble one " its an adjective like British's people use when they say " LORD ".
We are not behind because of caste system otherwise many countries don't allow inter cultural mairrages I too support intercaste mairrage but it isn't the reason we are behind But our education system and indians itself who just govt. Job , wanna become engineer or doctor Even when we have plenty of engineer and doctors 😊
my parents and all my uncles and aunts married outside of their caste without any issue, thankfully caste isn't much of a problem where i live in India. i am not very interested in the institution of marriage but if i were to marry someone someday, i wouldn't care which caste or religion they are from. if they are a decent person, we get along well and have things in common then it will be enough for me
I don’t know where this interview was taken …. But the region I come from (Bengal), inter-caste, inter-race is quite normal, no body cares….I have so many intercaste and inter race marriage in my family and friend circle that knowing this is still such a BIG issue in the other parts of India is quite shocking…..
@Pikáchu thunderbolt ⚡ haha coz of this we don't find girls in our community. In the Marathi family, if the girl/boy has a good job, family background, and religious then the parents, at last, say yes. Like with my cousin's brothers and sisters. I see more girls doing inter-caste marriages than boys.
Every time I hear stories like these and religion related stuff, I am SO glad I was raised without a religion and I can do whatever I want, date whoever I want, not face any criticism for being a lesbian, etc (I'm European & West African, not an Indian). Religion and social statuses sound like a big pain in the ass. I'm not trying to disrespect anyone who lives like that, you do you! I'm just glad I wasn't born into that. I feel like I can think for myself and believe in whatever I want to believe in. My mother did teach me about all kinds of religions, giving me the option to explore and believe in what I want to. It's nice to hear that things are changing for Indians, tho! Because it seems like most of them wouldn't want to follow that. Thank you for the video! I learned something new today :)
Sorry, but lack of religion is not a sign of better upbringing, and dating a lesbian is not a sign of superior moral standing. What's important is being open-minded to things that are outside our immediate environment and respecting others individual choices if it's not encroaching upon your freedom.
@@ajaxjaiswal3442 Huh? But that's not what I said. All I'm saying is, my mother exposed me to all religions and none stuck with me and I am PERSONALLY glad that I had the option to chose my own belief :)
@@LaCréé.e Not really. How you think about LGBT is your thing, has nothing to do with me. If you feel a certain way towards me being a lesbian, that's fine. I'm not gonna force people to like people that are part of LGBT. Everyone has their own views, no? Can you please tell me how what I said is disrespectful? Because like I said, I didn't mean to. I only said that because I know a lot of people on the internet like to take things way to personal, especially with topics like these.
Caste endogamy is the reason we have so many cultures still surviving and living together for an eternity in India. Sure, the discrimination might be there but that can be easily solved by better law and order situation. Imagine every culture marrying into each other, that'd wipe out the potency and the OG form of culture.
Agreed that not everyone is casteist, but most people here are really ignorant saying that caste system doesn't exist at all. I have met many of these upper caste people from well educated background who are always ready to bash about the lowly existence of chammars(a caste name used as slur) and tribals, even if they don't do it in front of someone who belongs to so called lower caste.
This video was great! It reminds me how diverse and divided India is, I remember the day I found out just how many languages are spoken in India alone. It blew me away. They don’t teach us much about India apart from British raj period. I feel embarrassed thinking the whole country only spoke Hindi.😅
I had a period in my life when I discovered and loved Indian movies, in fact I planned on visiting india as I had a very modern (ideologically) image from these movies, didn't know the cast system was such a big deal.
India is very diverse and has over several Millenia absorbed a lot of influences and evolved societal practices which were mostly put in place to reflect the realities of their times. The fundamental unifying factor has been the “Unity in Diversity” philosophy that to this day is very much embedded in the collective consciousness of India. So you will find all kinds of expressions and its best that you go with an open mind if you still wish to. There is a lot that India has to offer despite these fault lines.
Dude you can still visit This is an invisible thing that won’t affect you It’s equivalent to racial discrimination in multiethnic countries It’s sad but you can’t do much to eradicate a mindset, like the older lady said it’ll take 50 years or so
Caste system is a system of birth based racial segregation of workers, it was introduced in largely Buddhist Indian subcontinent about 1200 years ago by Iranian fire worshippers who escaped to India after the Arab conquest of Persia, Higher castes are less than 15% and have higher percentage of Iranian DNA, Racism is the core of Brahmanical caste system, these migrating Iranians were responsible for genocide of Buddhists and eradication of buddhism in India, 95% of marriages in India are arrange marriages, arrange marriage is a mechanism to maintain the caste system, Indian parents from upper castes dont blink an eye killing their own kids if they marry someone from lower caste, this is the reality of Hindu/Brahman caste/varna based ugly religion. Indian was a religious and moral society when it was a Buddhist country, 1200 years ago it all changed, they (Iranian Brahmans) killed all the Buddhist and eradicated Buddhism from India, now its a slave society where less than 15% upper caste Hindus (Higher percentage of Iranian DNA) rule over more than 85% lower caste Indians, they rape, torture, murder them whenever they want, they control everything, In Hindu/Brahmanical caste system which is a birth based segregation system of workers, all the manual labor has been assigned to lower and untouchable castes whereas all the non manual labour work has been assigned to higher castes, that is why the quality of Indian labor is very poor because the labor class is demoralized by birth by giving them the label of untouchable lower caste, and caste system is not like class system, it is like a building with multiple floors and there are no stairs connecting any of the floors. you will stay where you are until you die. We need a blood revolution in India to destroy Hinduism and Brahmans to become a modern and progressive country.
Appreciate how most of the individuals featured in the interview have an accurate understanding of the situation even though solving certain problems with discriminatory attitude still continues to be a major struggle.
The fact is that they say that they will do intercaste marriage but deep down in their heart,they won't.... It's just camera and they want to show how modern and we'll educated they are...😂😂😂
@@rohitmore6284 , 🤣😂😂. Tribals never part of varna system. Most of them won't marry with SC. Then how come UC br@inwashed them?? OBC where big land dominant groups finds it difficult to marry with a lower OBC. And still UC brainwashed them?? In fact UC too do marriages among themselves.
I am a Catholic of Italian extraction. Nearly 50 years ago, I married an upper caste Hindu woman. We are very compatible--mutual respect and good, old-fashioned love can go a long way to smoothing out the bumps in a relationship. I have never made my wife do anything that she has not wished to do, such as giving up her vegetarianism,, nor have I prevented her from fulfilling her dreams. We have had to face many challenges in our lives, but we're still together--'til death do us part.
For an indian marriage, condition according to family - Arrange marriage -rich or descent income - same caste or above caste - no drinking & smoking - good job What will people say ,,,thats what parents thinks ,
Inter caste is still okay. But what about inter-religious marriages ?? That's a even more deep and darker taboo in India. Your respect, your status, your social connections everything can get soiled if you have an inter religious marriage. This is normal India as of now.
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Every time someone asked about how your parents would react to inter-cast marriage the look on their faces is of pure terror.
@alphabet sim reservation will be destroyed by itself when caste is destroyed. Whiny casteists have one excuse to justify their bigotry " reservation" get a life. You wouldn't get selected even if there is no reservation
In my experience as an Indian, as long as the guy or girl has good career and money, they will not oppose strongly. But if the future seems bad, they will oppose. In my family I have seen dozens of intercaste marriages. And I have seen people oppose guy from same my caste because he has drinking problem or has bad reputation. Obviously people have married irrespective of parents choice too.
I have seen failed intercaste marriages because of very different cultural habits. My aunt married in very regressive business family, and she couldn’t even ask for help when beaten. Her entire family manipulated us. And we could save her. But since then for me the criteria is progressive mindset over any other criteria
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The more intermixed people are, the healthier and more beautiful they are. If I was PM, I would incentivize inter caste marriages. I will also outlaw Cousin Marriages for 5 Generations. Clan system is a disease and this needs to go.
The problem is these people have no guts to change the minds of parents. You have to condition them, have actual conversations. Talk logic. I have seen my parents changing their viewpoints about lgbt, about sex education, because I do talk to them about larger implications. If people just want open minded parents as a gift, that’s not going to happen. We also have to nurture their minds.
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I am so proud to be a Guilt based person in a Shame based society.
Also proud to be only person alongside with my brother in both my mother's and father's family to be not be a result of cousin marriages.
It's like corruption.... when asked about it... we openly say we are against it... but deep inside when the situation arrives we are ignorant about it
That's a big generalisation. You assuming we all are somehow ignorant ironically ur statement is itself ignorant. We have 29 states not Everystate is same nor everyone follows the caste system. Here in northeast we marry whoever we want. My family is full of such marriage even my mom is tribal. So I suppose you meant mainland India when u made that statement?
@dhiman kalita I referred to we because I am presenting my thoughts as a first person talking about them, meaning our society, which I am a part of. Common sense that it ain't ironic. If one of your classmates is a murderer and all other classmates say that murder is a crime, is that ironic??
Just consider some continuity in your analysis rather than discrete way and talk about human psychology. Every human born is born with a tendency of ignorance. The environment in which he or she grows up decides in which way the person is gonna portray his or her ignorance. Countries like India ignorance is "majorly" shown through stuff like corruption, caste system, etc. Countries like pakistan ignorance are shown through terrorism, extreme and blind religious mindset, etc. There is no country that lacks certain aspects.
Obviously, you might counter me with a valid argument that the level of ignorance isn't the same from place to place just kike yours and other parts of country. That's exactly where proper education is necessary. And that's also a major thing which in itself our country is having an issue with.
I am not even trying to justify that ignorance. I myself am more of a liberal type of guy. I am just talking about the mindset and tendency of humans in society.
Well none of the Indian is ignorant about it!
We simply want to keep it, that is why??
Because it gives us our identity and all the added benefits. Otherwise ask Rajput to give up their caste....will they??
Ask, Brahmins to give up....never.
You see the phraseology of superior, purest of pure etc.
So, caste system will never diffuse from India, rather has deeply intertwined with our political lives.
@@dhimankalita1690 dear, don't forget there are five dedicated schedules meant only for scheduled tribe population in the Indian Constitution to safeguard them from the persecution of the evil system of caste.
Go and find about them and the reasons why they are there & kept under direct control of president and not elected representatives?
Also, find out the tribal identity of Indian president and her native tribe and it's status.
Lastly, the reservation benefits and other schemes for the upliftment of Tribals in India. You guys need to read a lot of sociology.
@@0rhythm_divine0 I like how people like you who have no knowledge about tribes or the problems of North East keep writing long as*essays with no substance. Schedule tribes status is a recent phenomenon and the application of the status in context of North East is different. Atleast learn the history and culture of North East before spitting gobar
Inter caste isn’t the main issue ,the issue is marrying a lower caste .In camera everyone is open minded and modern but behind camera maximum people will avoid this situation.
They only avoid it because they don't wanna upset their possessive castist parents!!
That’s true. Marrying an OC is okay now for an OC but a BC/SC/ST is not okay in current generation.
The bearded spec guy explained it --- it's because India has a joint family system and once a fam member marries outside his or her caste, this whole family loses face in the entire society (not just in the same city but all over the country) - they are refused from attending various functions (birth ceremony, naming ceremony, funeral etc) in the community, they are denied privileges, they are removed from the yearbook - sorta!! Also, these people talk liberally about inter-caste marriage but in reality even when this occurs - it occurs when they marry an immediate adjacent (lower or higher) caste ONLY. It is never more than that. For example a baniya might marry a kshatriya but will never be permitted to marry a brahmin. Importantly, it is the Brahmin priest that presides all Hindu marriages -- and these scoundrels refuse to sing their occultic chants the right way or attempt to do the ritual wrongly ( without anyone knowing) in order to make the marriage fail - per the brahmin belief. This is the secret Brahmin code. Foreign people, even Myanmarese and Thai (for example) are totally unaware and clueless about this mega gravitational force that propagates in total secrecy in India- forget about Europeans and Americans!! India may need to be renamed as Varna (skin color/complexion) -- because it is called Varna System or Skin-Color System or Complexion System (saying Caste-system is a distraction) ( Textbook definition of racism)
@Californium292 you're not wrong, but I think you don't quite get what he meant
THE TRUTH
That lady who's parents had intercast marriage is PRIME example of a liberal and free spirited person.
Thanks to parents for her we'll upbringing and not giving up on their decisions. They did a commendable job. Such parents are biggest pillers for a open minded next generation.
Hi, I have seen many intercaste marriages, but that’s doesn’t guarantee free liberal spirited person. My aunt married in conservative family, so her daughters are allowed to marry only same caste, not even her mother’s caste. 😂 I cannot handle the hypocrisy. She was the only daughter fo rich self made businessman. So she was allowed entry in that family. But oh boy if my cousin mama gets to find rich guy, they will marry her to French person also.
My aunt was so disgusted of this, she divorced her husband.
Bottom line, intercaste marriages are not about progressive Mindset always.
@@Kathakathan11 i didn't said all parents are like that. What made u think like that? 🤔
I was talking about her parents only.
@@Kathakathan11 which community u are from? I have seen this behavior mostly in North indians.
@@anirbanghosh1670 I am from Konkan, not north India.
@@anirbanghosh1670 but my aunt was married to Rajasthani Marwari guy. Biggest mistake ever. We somehow tolerated their regressive ideas for her, but shouldn’t have done that.
I was born in a Jat family in an Uttarakhand village (yeah we are the one with most honor killing cases). Grew up with high overdose of caste stupidity. When my son was born in 2011, we talked about it and gave him a generic Surname which was different from ours, just to make sure that he is not identified by his caste. Never spoke about Caste (or anything that divides people) at home and he never asked. Had discussions with him about equality and how religion, caste, states, North India Vs South India could be divisive - how honesty, kindness are more important. He is turning out to be a fine young man.
And on the original Q of inter caste marriage, we hope that one day, our son will introduce his 'someone special' to us and we will welcome her n love her with all our heart.
How kind and great of you!!!
You rock
Wish every indians in india learn from u brother .
@@voidmain9519 Thank you!
@@Ksl9393 Thank you!
I'm Chinese, and I didn't realize that the caste system still has such a deep influence on Indians. Of course, every Asian country with a long history has its own special culture and traditions.
In our country we can do marriage in another caste but it will be a little bit difficult but not impossible and it will be changed in some year.
Quite a revelation, no??
What would you rate the Chinese people who answer questions on zhihu?
Zhihu users are from a range of middle yo high in come users, their opinions have a substantial weight but not.absolutely true.
I like how we Indians ignore the issue and take off the spotlight from the actual topic by downgrading other countries. Let's stay on the topic, yeah?
I think people should also know that Indian culture is not homogeneous. This kind of caste based marriage DOES NOT MATTER for Eastern Indians, especially people from the Northeast and Bengal. Issues with caste are mostly seen in North and South India.
Because North and South India are culturally rich places where as Eastern parts are home to many brothels.
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Edit - I've never seen so many uneducated people together like this
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@@ashaypallav4158 Wow!!, amazing argument from ur side. so u mean rich in Cast based discrimination. acknowledge ur self and correct it rather than putting others down.
Oh really? Wow, that is lovely to hear. May I ask do eastern Indians have castes?
@@ashaypallav4158 what a dumb and disrespectful argument. Are you trying to say that people from Eastern region are the product of sexual debauchery ? Shame that an 'educated' person with internet and an access to vast knowledge can say something so derogatory and wrong. Grow the f*** up
@@xozobueno9106 yes if u specifically ask for it.
Otherwise the caste based discrimination doesn't exist at all.
Moreover caste has now been limited to pujas and reservation 🙂
That Buddhist talking about his marriage was so heart warming. It's a nice reminder that even if most people from a certain generation hold onto their beliefs with white knuckles, theres still some gems here and there.
Yes 👍🏽 he is a great person. I hope it inspires others.
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Buddhism doesn't have a caste system.
I'm not surprised that his parents didn't object since the caste mentality is not ingrained in their religion. I have such conflicting views on this. Personally I cannot see any value in this kind of exclusive social system. On the other hand, I can't comfortably pass judgement on a system that has been in existence for such a long time nor its participants who grew up with its values.
It is certainly worthy of an on-going dialogue tho.
@@minyaksayur Sri Lankan Buddhists have it.
In this case, i admire my maa very much. She got married when she was financially independent at the age of 31 back in 2001. I have never seen such an open minded free spirited "parent" like her. She's like my best friend. And let me tell you, we are from a small railway town in Assam, not from a tier 1 city. You won't believe me , she is so open to discuss about my dating life and asks me to date till i find the right one. I feel blessed to have her in my life.
Thats bengali culture didi. Where men and women treated equally. Unlike in North india where men marry outside community but women don't.
@@anirbanghosh1670 she's Assamese.
@@ritikshaw5868 I read it. But I think she is assamese bengali. I know this by seeing her name. That's why I asked.
@@anirbanghosh1670 I know De/Dey can be a Bengali surname. My mom's Bengali as well.
I am from assam too. (Village) My mom is open minded, she is also my best friend, I can share anything with her, I can share about my love life, dating. She is also open minded about dating from a different caste. In our both mother and father family, cousins, relatives all close to their parents, they are open minded about dating, love marriage and All my cousins married people from different castes and love marriage.
9:05 this woman is so well spoken! In India, its a privilege to have a parent like her.
But it bothers me the way she takes the microphone away from the interviewer - like she owns it. She is self entitled.
@@SpamMouse bro what😭😭
@@SpamMouse That says more about you than her, buddy.
@@SpamMouse How can you surmise that through the video 😂. Stop being judgemental mate.
@@dominrina1943 Because I can read body language.
As an older American I've spent much of my life interacting with Indian immigrants and internationals, mostly physicians and a few engineers, academics and so forth. In the 1970s a friend in graduate school was very matter of fact about the Caste system. Even in those days, some Indian associates spoke as if the Caste system was an outlawed relic of the past, laughing that it had no relevance to modern living. But others assured me that it was deeply ingrained and alive. I'm not sure how much things have changed today.
It's complicated .
Although the cast system might not be visible it is somewhere out there.
It's very difficult to say whether it matters or not. All depends on family.
It doesn't matter what your caste is in public life but people don't marry outside their castes.
It shows up when you wanna get married
@@ashwinvk4124 what you mean most of the indians didn't have gf so it's best option for them because Indian boys mostly need to secure job rather than shitty love
We can simply put this way
In mumbai, chennai, delhi, banglore, hyderabad, and other metro cities, the parents may oppose the intercaste marriage but if your partner is exceptionally rich or doing well in his/her career then the parents may approve that
But in tier-3 cities or villages its simply not possible and still honor killings happens these days🥲
Indians love their parents and will always follow them blindly no matter how toxic their decisions are.
I don't think chennai comes under that category because i'm one of the victim along with my other friends
@@shanmugapriyaamohan3273 yeah chennai is still conservative
Lol not everyone follows blindly fool
We have brains too 😂😂😒
Cry ? Inferiors ! What about 70% reservation ? Inferiors
Honor killings ?
When she asked about asking people's caste, someone should have explained that finding people's cast is very easy without asking for it. Our surnames give it away, especially if those people are from the same region as you.
Also, cinema and shows don't do a good job. Even when the caste is not a matter of concern, the lead role will have a Brahmin or Kshtriya surname. If the lead role is a Police officer then they most often than not have a Kshatriya (Rajput) surname. Even in Akshay Kumar's movie Padman which was based on a real guy, his name was caste-neutral but they ended up giving him upper caste name.
Whenever I consciously try to find caste diversity in names of lead characters in Indian movies and shows, I am left disappointed. A few time it is not mentioned, and in cases they are mentioned, it is always a prominent upper caste name.
So very true and I am happily surprised to see one intelligent audience like you who observed this crude fact about Indian Cinema.
And you also must be aware of this fact that Cinema is soft yet most powerful tool of to influence the commoners.
@@anirudh2704 true. There is reason which I don't remember but I guess the leaders urged people to not use surnames. Instead use father's name or ancestral home/place as a name. I found that too be a great idea.
@@anirudh2704 Don't lie. Removing surnames doesn't evaporate one's caste. Also caste stratification is most potent in TN. Upper landlord castes like Mudailars, Chettiars, Nadar, velluvars follow caste endogamy and don't marry Dalits.
Also, I should make it clear that in TN every single Tamil is aware of his caste. TN gov make sure of that by issuing caste certificates for every Tamil born.
If you look hot you will be put in a movie. Simple.
@@bobchill5402 so there are no hot people in so called lower castes??? There lies the problem.
There are many upper caste people in movie industry that conventionally dont look hot. Like Manoj Bajapayee, Pankaj Tripathi or Sanjay Mishra.
Not saying these people don't deserve the praise. Infact, they deserve more. All of them are brilliant actors. I just named them because they made it even without hot looks, which in turn proves caste plays a role and looks aren't everything.
It's easy to nod when asked if intercaste marriage is possible
But in reality it's very much difficult
My own friend from maratha caste wasn't able to marry his GF from his own caste bcoz his GF was different maratha 😂
Truly said, the same happened with my friend, he can't marry with his girlfriend because she was from different Telugu caste
Good thing I'm not maratha but assamese
Must be 92k or kunbi! 😂💯
@@37kaustubhjagtap97 वो क्या झमेला है, क्या मालुम 🤭
But maratas considers kunbis lower 🥲
The whole hindu unity is lie,
Where self declared savarna maratas can't be United, you can't make hindus unite
Happened to me too, I girl in matrimonial site asked which state Rajput I was from, I was himachali and she was from UP so she said we cant marry each other because they are searching for UP Rajput, wierd!!!
If religion and caste weren't enough for them they added state to the mix too, next thing you know she is marrying her cousin!
The girl with glasses made a really good point by pointing out the difference in what pop culture each caste is exposed to. Social class around the world affects your proximity to gaining cultural capital and you don't often hear about it as a topic of discussion!
And in Europe this is true too - it’s called class system but no one talks about it, at least in India it’s openly being discussed
@@malpalmer3269because it’s worse in india, ur surname can tell what caste u belong to and it’s not like that in europe
That young girl in spectacles... Just nailed it !! She has a very good understanding.
I have one complain for Asian boss they should be more open to native languages, they can dub it in different language or provide subtitles. They only do this in India. I'm not against the people speaking in English. But we allow more languages people from all social backgrounds can be on mic because not everyone in India speak English.
English is far better @asianboss keep doing in English language!!! 👍👍👍👍 Native language ????? What is this behaviour Kushwaha????
@@bonkergirl No because speaking in english may act as barrier for many people in india in expressing themselves as many people in india are not fluent in english especially people from poor and marginalised background, so this way they will never be on the mic and again we will not be listening people from diverse background.
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That's a good point about the language. I agree.
I would also add that they need to do these kind of interviews in other places such as Hyderabad or Bengaluru and Chennai and not just the North.
My friend from school in Malaysia is of Indian lineage. Her mother is Maharashtrian Brahmin as well. Her father is from a different caste. They eloped in the mid 70s. However the mother's uncle apparently helped the couple in love to elope and was a witness to their marriage.
Mostly Brahmin Girls married to Muslim men also that's not a big deal
@@introvert6696 usually the result of LJ, which is a whole other can o' woms.
@@introvert6696 mostly brahmim girls? Percentage of Interfaith marriage is very low in india and that too hindu and muslim women stands at the bottom of the list .sikh and christian women have a much high percentage of interfaith marriage
@@sonekapanchi6457 Bollywood is a perfect example you can see how many Hindu Girls married to Muslim actors.
@@introvert6696 reverse of that is present in bollywood too . And bollywood celebs doesn't hold up any significant indian population
Caste is like racism in another whole level.
No bro that's false
Actually it may be worse
It's worse.
its 100x worse
Worse
Forget about inter-caste. Even the same caste marriage is opposed is opposed if the guy or the girl isn't rich enough (mostly the guy is rejected) ... 🤣🤣
That's right
You don't even know the difference between class and caste. A poor upper caste guy won't be restricted inside a temple but our previous President Kovind sir " lower caste" was stopped. This is caste system where even the top most designation is not safe from this social evil.
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I mean if you w at to marry alcoholic, do it at your own expense. You want family extravaganza, no need of that. Guy is rejected more because girl goes in his home. Practically it should be house bought or rented by both 50:50.
Another plot for Bollywood movie 😂
2:41
Mostly How Caste works in India.
Rich are protecting caste to protect their resources
She made an awesome point there
It has always been like this. Otherwise, one cam change his/her religion in India but not caste why???
@@0rhythm_divine0 I think it is better adopt English names in india?
@@0rhythm_divine0well let's say an lower caste adopted an uppercaste name and using that, they faked their are uppercadtes and married but in the official docs, that guy is a lower caste, then that's a false and fake marriage. Personally, I don't like that
No. . middle class and poor protecting cast to get benifit from government. Like reservation and scholarships.
5:24 This person has very good knowledge about Indian society by putting the fact of how important someone's social name is.
I don't get it though. If your family is a worker family and go to school to be a doctor and try to marry up. That's still frowned upon.
@@cricket12ish But relatives still appreciate you for becoming a doctor and upgrading your life.
Yes, you still get fronwed upon because of your past, but remember society cares about only MONEY and if you are rich people will give to respect easily.
I have seen so many people getting discriminated based on various reasons, but it gets over as they get rich. Money is the key and it solves every single problem.
Many of my classmates say that for our generation class does not matter but the truth is that when the time comes they either give up due to social pressure or in the depths of their mind that they too look down on lower caste people.
You got it right!
I have severed many friendships over casteism, sadly when we liked each other but their control system was their parents and if course caste members.
what is many for you in a country of 1 and a half billion tell me
@@swayambisht2119 "many of my classmates" so I guess not more than 300
Backwards country india needs to burn. Rape culture is normalised there
hmm... most of my classmates do believe that castes don't matter and I've never seen any of my friend/classmate do things like that . I switched schools after 10th grade and no one in our class asked for my caste and I didn't ask anyone either (pretty weird thing to ask for someone's caste). Even after entering college last year, Caste was the last thing on our minds while building friendships. But India is HUGEEE so it is possible that people who do that exist too.
I'm mixed race (Japanese and Pacific Islander), and I grew up in the island of Yap. Yap has a social caste system similar to India's that has existed for centuries. In our system, there are essentially six castes - each being divided into a variety of subclasses. In order of precedence, the chiefly caste, the noble caste, the commoners, and the three serf castes. Inter-caste marriages among the chiefly, noble and common castes are pretty common, but people in the serf castes face a barrier in marrying anyone in the upper classes.
Each village is ranked from the highest and most powerful (the chief villages) to the lowest (the serf villages. And yes serfs). On the individual level, i.e., within the village, each person has their own caste rank. My village is actually commoner for instance, but my own rank is the warrior sub-class of the noble caste. My clan was one of the clans in my village chosen to fight for the chiefs in wars and battles
Caste discrimination used to be quite prevalent, esp. against those in the serf classes, but it has declined substantially since the late 20th century
😂😂If I tell you, there is so much variation/Diversity in India that I could😊 have to write a book on it.
To give you just one example, here along with castes, there are sub-castes within those castes.
Marriages take place in those sub-castes but from the ∆ GOTRA SYSTEM. ∆
So that there is no mixing of blood of a family, therefore even the gotras of mother, father and grandmother are seen. If they meet, then they become brother and sister, then that marriage cannot happen even if they are of the same caste.
But here now this much does not happen in inter caste marriage, but if religion is different then a lot happens. 🙁🙁like end of family 😮
@@zojozojo-ox6wj no mixing or mixing ?? Same gotra people have same ancestors,so if same gotra people won't marry then genetic disorder will not emerge
The Indian caste system is just a form of feudalism and it existed in basically every society in the world. The British Royal Family is a form of a caste system, but the Western media is too stupid to understand that.
Pacific Islander hierarchy is similar in this way also I’ve read that your people tattoo themselves to signify their position in society as well .
@@porothashawarma2339 yes tattoos help identify people and show off their accomplishments. Accomplished individuals, for instance, can get full tattoos on their upper torso and their arms, while lords and members of the warrior class can get full body tats including on their hands
This is absolutely fascinating the difference in social cultures of the world.
Thank you Asian Boss for publishing this!
Correction, it's not culture but a structure.. no culture teaches about caste in India.
@@divinebeing5720 NO bramhnic culture does teach to discriminate
@@divinebeing5720ita a hindu culture mentioned in Hindu scriptures
Caste system is a system of birth based racial segregation of workers, it was introduced in largely Buddhist Indian subcontinent about 1200 years ago by Iranian fire worshippers who escaped to India after the Arab conquest of Persia, Higher castes are less than 15% and have higher percentage of Iranian DNA, Racism is the core of Brahmanical caste system, these migrating Iranians were responsible for genocide of Buddhists and eradication of buddhism in India, 95% of marriages in India are arrange marriages, arrange marriage is a mechanism to maintain the caste system, Indian parents from upper castes dont blink an eye killing their own kids if they marry someone from lower caste, this is the reality of Hindu/Brahman caste/varna based ugly religion.
Indian was a religious and moral society when it was a Buddhist country, 1200 years ago it all changed, they (Iranian Brahmans) killed all the Buddhist and eradicated Buddhism from India, now its a slave society where less than 15% upper caste Hindus (Higher percentage of Iranian DNA) rule over more than 85% lower caste Indians, they rape, torture, murder them whenever they want, they control everything, In Hindu/Brahmanical caste system which is a birth based segregation system of workers, all the manual labor has been assigned to lower and untouchable castes whereas all the non manual labour work has been assigned to higher castes, that is why the quality of Indian labor is very poor because the labor class is demoralized by birth by giving them the label of untouchable lower caste, and caste system is not like class system, it is like a building with multiple floors and there are no stairs connecting any of the floors. you will stay where you are until you die. We need a blood revolution in India to destroy Hinduism and Brahmans to become a modern and progressive country.
@@DhruvKumar-tf3gw by giving 70% reservation lol inferiors
There is also casteism in Nepal. Marrying outside caste is still taboo in many traditional families
I am from Assam, India. (Village) My parents are open minded about marrying from other caste. In both our mother's and father's families, cousins, relatives are all quite open minded about inter-caste marriages. All my cousins married people from different castes. But religion still matters. I think it is different for different people and which part of India they belong to. It depends on people, family and society how open minded they are. Some people are open minded and some are not. Nowadays people are changing and becoming more open minded than before.❤
In Assam, inter-caste marriage is not a big issue. Only few people are bothered about it
@@ASGAccenture But Generals are marrying with St, Not the other way around, Still happening in Assam, Its being hypocrite
My childhood frnd is also from NE (Manipur) & yes parents r open minded about caste or love marriage ..i like it & NE india is so peaceful I feel jelous i live in Delhi & I'm tired of voilence ,politics , daily fights ,I'm tired bro 😑
@@miss_yaya_yuxiYeah. I agree that our northeast people are more open minded about Inter Caste and love marriage etc. I am lucky too, my parents sre supportive about love marriage and caste too. I have seen North Indian are more conservative than us. I also agree that Delhi is getting worst day by day. It's now one of the worst city in india. Lot of problems, crime in Delhi. Even foreigner also say same thing about Delhi. I think nowdays living in a indian village or country side is better than big city. It's more peaceful.
It is certainly possible, but bloody hell difficult.
Low percentage of inter-caste marriages is faithfully reflected in the custom of arranged marriages, which has the same prevalence of about 95% of all marriages in India. As match-making is about matching socioeconomic variables of both parties, matching the caste factor first automatically matches up many other variables that generally result from caste-based exposures, experiences and resources. Since marriage by match-making is a convenient "short cut" (meanwhile one might date people of any caste), the rural society will need to encounter newer pressures before inter-caste marriages could become more common.
I just watched this on NETFLIX and I must say the individuals who participated where extreme NARCISSIST’s except a few were kind and of excellent character. I was shocked just like this discriminating behavior that exists…WOW. 🤷🏻♀️👀
this is a cycle
@@stephanieallangarman5598 I'm not shocked that discriminative values exist bc they exist in all societies, including here in Canada. Just bc we deal with different discriminatory practices doesn't make them any better than the caste system.
In rural areas castes live segregated, so for them it’s about resources, literal water resources. So they will favour if resources add up. Like if land rich families marry and share water wisely. Or political families colluding. No one talks of how celebs marry businessmen. But when local rural people do that, it’s OH NO moment .
I think it’s logical for many people.
My only concern is if your son daughter don’t want that privilege and want to marry for love, don’t kill them or exclude them, just respect their decision. Have seen in my family, where people oppose, but in the end they attend the marriage and invited the intercaste people in all functions.
@@stephanieallangarman5598 discrimination is everywhere, they are people who still want to enslave black, who still 8mpose their western culture on African societies. Look at cobalt mining and the social discrimination there in Ghana
The topics that Asian boss addresses are phenomenal. One suggestion that I would like to give is that although all of them spoke well in English, it would be better if the interviewees are given the option to speak in their mother tongue (local language) as they do in other Asian countries so that they can express themselves even better.
Everyone would speak different languages then. In India all of us in tier 1 and tier 2 cities are used to speaking in English because the crowd is multi cultural. Everyone from different states comes to tier 1 cities making English the common language.
hindi is not the only language Indians speak. you'd find a hindi translator easily but it's not the same with say, telugu or marathi.
Some cities in the USA have recently had to extend our civil rights laws to include caste systems, because of the immigrants that have become part our population. In short, many of the Indian population in the USA are prejudiced against other Indians, so this law amendment had to be created here in the USA.
You are right, as Indian have taken their garbage to entire world.
What prejudice.? propaganda
I suggest you do the same with Quran, that says girl has to convert to islam to marry a muslim man. Is there any resolution for that?
What about muslim prejudice no don't say anything about them
We are very sorry here in India we are trying break caste system but our fellow indian immigrants are introducing this there 🥲
@@FromPlanetZX This law in the US extends to employers discriminating upon cast, tf does someone becoming muslim to marry have to do with employment dummy
Inter caste marriages are becoming less and less of an issue. Inter religion marriages though (excluding Hindu- Sikh/Buddhist/Jains) are definitely an issue .
Lies
@Rishabh Vailaya In fact all my cousins have done inter-caste love marriages. And the majority of them are girls.
@@anirudh2704 congrats, but your family is not the national standard.
Inter religious marriages, well marry the women in progressive household only, she will have no protection if you marry her in regressive families. She will be isolated and you won’t even know your own sister is facing marital rape and torture. What every religion it is. The only benefit of caste is, you will have common relatives, like my 5th cousin is your 6th cousin. And their will be some conflict resolution.
@@V-for-Vendetta01 even my cousins, all elder to me have done intercaste marriages. And only one was opposed from marrying her boyfriend, as he was not earning enough as per the parents. Which was true, but they lost the gem of a person. I have hope for them. We are trying to convince her parents to accept the guy, give him an year to change his situation. Helping him with the exams .
I used to work with two Indian woman in the US one denied that the caste system existed, and the other was very proud to be a brahman --
You know what it's not easy. The previous generation ie our parents suck when it comes to intercaste marriage. And we say this generation don't care but they do they are lying saying they don't care. My friend when I first met her asked me what is my caste😂 I know she didn't mean anything bad but why does it matter. People should be treated as individuals. ❤️❤️ Spread love not hate.
But can't you just lie about your caste? It's not that it's documented on your passport.
@@veero8130 no one can lie, as it's your surname which tells it with utmost clarity.
And that girl was quite ignorant because she didn't guessed it by your name itself.
And you are cent percent cent right that we Indians LIE a big tip, when we say we don't care.
Our generation living and grown up in city definitely don't care about caste. Especially in cities like Mumbai, cause from childhood I've been interacting with literally all sorts of people from different states and languages. So it never really crossed our minds that caste is significant. I've been to Bangalore, Kerala and Hyderabad and have stayed there for solid 3-4 months in each city and the vibe was same. Used to see couples of all sorts. But in Kolkata it was different tbh. Everything felt strict regarding relationships and marriages. But again we are seeing lot couples from different caste and background marrying twice with each other in respect to their traditions and cultures.
Another thing about caste is, our government itself gives lot of importance to it. So it's difficult to avoid it and hence it remains in the subconscious of people that caste is significant in our lives lol
@@0rhythm_divine0 You can't change your surname in India?
Of course the caste system is still very much rooted in India! Especially in the villages it is deeply embedded in everyone's mind! Even now the lower castes in our village are not allowed to enter our village temple.
Do you know why??? don't give me a Communist Manifesto I am asking the real reason...
You're probably somewhere in North
Try to change the society. So called lower castes are not allowed in temple and you guys get angry when they convert to Buddhism. In my society nobody asked caste while entering temples . We don't do discrimination and every caste is equally happy to be part of the religion we belong
@@Abhi46159 we don't care if you convert but don't insult after you are converting which you don't have the right... second know the difference between Agama and Tantric Hindu Temples... in a Tantric Temple all are allowed, in Agama Temples there are certain rules everyone should follow... even as Higher Castes we cannot enter into temple chambers which is built by a sudra... or a Dalit or a Vaishya or a Brahmin even... it is same like how you cannot tell Muslims to allow Women along with Men into their Mosques... certain rules cannot be changed... Agama Temples are mostly a particular Jatti's Ancestor's place... not actually a Temple so there for that Jatti only first right comes in... know the difference....
@@Abhi46159 and you don't understand Hinduism one bit...
When this generation becomes parents, hopefully they have no issues with their children’s marriage. I do see hope. Good luck!
Marriage taking place intra-caste has a strong link with wealth preservation. People often did this because they wanted to keep their wealth in their own community.
PS: it was a thing of the past, it continued on
Fascinating story and great interviews. Everybody was so articulate
I think most of these people are referring to upper castes when they are talking about their experiences of intercaste marriages. Its extremely rare to see lower-upper caste marriages cuz all the prejudice flows down the caste heirarchy especially the Dalits. It would much more insightful to hear the experiences of Dalits/lower caste people.
yes, dalit are the most castiest. They don't marry to lower class people.
Upper caste man and lower caste woman is ok as per the scripture like Manusmriti also.
But vice versa lower caste boy(more so Dalit) and upper caste girl is extremely rare even may lead to honour killing
@@cricketlovers3013 sahi to hai, it is naturally only. Ladkiyo ke sapane me Rajkumar hi aata hai, bhikhari nhi.
Western countries me dekha hai ladkai ko poor man se shadi karte huye.
Aur lower caste wali hi honour killing karte hai, lagta hai news nhi padhate tum.
@@FromPlanetZX kha se news padh rahe . Honour killing can happen both ways but it happens mostly from dominate castes(try sairat movie )
And caste division is not solely based on race so how you assume all lower caste people to be bad looking and poor .After British and independence affluent well educated and well settled class has emerged from lower class people (SC St OBC ). they can also happen to be good looking too with whom upper caste girls may fall in love too .
@@cricketlovers3013 oh bhai, ye ladkiyo ki tarah, i feel like, i think, this should, it shouldn't be like that, types of argument na do. aur ye movie ka refrence kaun deta hai bhai. local news padhana suru karo, bhaut sare cases hai. aur leftist type argument mat do, ki idhar se hi hota hai, udhar se hi hota hai, to sab chalta hai.
upper caste ko blame karne se pehle kyu nhi socha, ki ab lower caste ko defend karne aa gaye.
and you still haven't counter my point, why girls/women all over the world across caste, creed, color, race, religion select a man above their status.
aur ek do exception de ke counter mat karna, ye maths ka theorem nhi hai jo exception se fail ho jayega.
wow, this is so interesting to know about! from someone who is from Brazil and have not much knowledge about India...
i'm glad this video found me. Currently struggling with the fact that my future inlaws don't want my partner and I to get married because he's from India, living in EU and I'm from EU. The wedding is in one month after 5 years of battling and sacrificing and hoping... I would love to hear about the stance on intercultural marriages in India. I've seen many Indian-Other couples so far in europe and abroad, but never in India. Guessing from personal experience that it's not very well regarded, hoping for some nuances though.
I know girls, and boys who have married Foreigners.
The in migration in India is very low, but we do have inter cultural interracial marriages. Obviously progressive people won’t mind white bahu/damad. But if they were African, I don’t know. I just want to say, it’s a society with its own stereotypes and tolerance is comparatively increasing. It’s complex society, not all are progressive, not all re regressive. Being traditional doesn’t mean regressive either. We are happy that we have had huge legacy of socio religious reform movements where the base concept was humans are equal. And spiritually we all are same, we all are souls. So I hope these basic messages are remembered more by people of my country. Our constitution was framed by bold people who dreamt of ideal equal society and these values have seeped in. I am optimistic Indian.
Congratulations and may Krishna bless you with happy married life.
Indians outside India are very liberal and are open to interracial marriages.
Infact in Indian cities too, there is great acceptance for interracial marriage but in case of rural areas it's different.
Rural India is very much tribalistic and backward.
Because you don't find foreigners in India na, you only find them in foreign countries, that's why they often seen in other countries!
If you are white, rich and affluent, docile and agreeable personality, means interested in changing your ways to your partners ways, then you can have your happily ever after.....but....if you are assertive, have your own views, perceptions, opinions and preferences regarding everything in life including your ideas of married life, I would say think twice hard.
It's fascinating to see the differing answers from people here. It shows how your upbringing, the kind of social circle you had growing up, etc. shapes your opinion.
They may make you feel like caste is no longer an issue or you may feel that caste is a big issue.
I am Chinese and I have to say that before I watched this video, I thought the caste system is a past thing in India and nobody cares about it… After this video, I found out that I was wrong… The culture is rooted in our heart even if we want to change it. It is hard to change. But I believe that everything will be ok someday.
Nothing will change. You think indians will change so brother. Indians are like this and they will continue this.
Many of us do hope too . However It becomes an issue because many Indian parents believe that their kids must follow what they have to say in everything especially when it comes to marriage.
This was a very interesting topic, thank you for interviewing and thanks to these people who are open about discussing their culture and own experiences
Education is important to annihilate caste issues.
In fact, it has nothing to do with education 😅 That's belief system
Great video. They asked the right questions. Once you get away from India itself you see very many intercast marriages throughout the world.
Inter-caste, inter-religion, 20 years of marriage. All in the name of love
That's nicee
Inter caste is great, inter religion is problematic
@@sushilsharma4202 why would you say so?
If both parties agree to let each other follow their own religion, then what's the problem?
@@theunfunnybone3654 Too idealistic.
@@-.-4991These are narrow minded people
5:07 So true... its actually the parents who are so possessive about their children. I hear from half of my friends who literally complain how their parents don't allow them to date or marry inter-caste. I'm ngl, this parental pressure will eat us someday.
Ahh!! What about reservati0n and SC/ST act?? Still your type of libert@rds want to support that.
Very interesting topic, I didn’t know this was still such a big thing in India. Also super fascinating how well-spoken they all are
Most Indians don't like intercaste marriages because they don't want to give up their caste and tribal identity.
Even though it doesn't give them any real privileges, they take pride in their caste identity.
@@theprodigy3934 Germany!
Caste system is a system of birth based racial segregation of workers, it was introduced in largely Buddhist Indian subcontinent about 1200 years ago by Iranian fire worshippers who escaped to India after the Arab conquest of Persia, Higher castes are less than 15% and have higher percentage of Iranian DNA, Racism is the core of Brahmanical caste system, these migrating Iranians were responsible for genocide of Buddhists and eradication of buddhism in India, 95% of marriages in India are arrange marriages, arrange marriage is a mechanism to maintain the caste system, Indian parents from upper castes dont blink an eye killing their own kids if they marry someone from lower caste, this is the reality of Hindu/Brahman caste/varna based ugly religion.
Indian was a religious and moral society when it was a Buddhist country, 1200 years ago it all changed, they (Iranian Brahmans) killed all the Buddhist and eradicated Buddhism from India, now its a slave society where less than 15% upper caste Hindus (Higher percentage of Iranian DNA) rule over more than 85% lower caste Indians, they rape, torture, murder them whenever they want, they control everything, In Hindu/Brahmanical caste system which is a birth based segregation system of workers, all the manual labor has been assigned to lower and untouchable castes whereas all the non manual labour work has been assigned to higher castes, that is why the quality of Indian labor is very poor because the labor class is demoralized by birth by giving them the label of untouchable lower caste, and caste system is not like class system, it is like a building with multiple floors and there are no stairs connecting any of the floors. you will stay where you are until you die. We need a blood revolution in India to destroy Hinduism and Brahmans to become a modern and progressive country.
Being raised outside India, but coming back to study in India, I can say people's caste identities are so important - when I start speaking my native tongue, they immediately identify my caste and comment on it. I'm lucky to be considered 'upper' and therefore do not face marginalisation but I can't imagine how it must feel for those who are 'lower' (>:( ) to experience this identification and have to deal with people's preconceptions
It's very painful and derogatory. You can become president,PM, CM, DM,doctor , engineer, businesseman etc but you can't escape caste .
Everytime When you are asked to tell your full name not just first name (pura nam kya likhte/surname kya likhte etc) you are being judged and made to feel lower . Worst feeling
Dude think about Reservati0n these people are taking, they have special acts like SC/ST, and because of that many UC/OBC families are suffering. UC girls were s€×ually harr@sed, objectified, r@p*d and thre@ten with SC/ST if speak to someone.
Choosing someone from your own varna(Caste) to marry isn't a discrimination, it's more about protecting your own genes & passing on your genetic qualities to your next generations.
Ex. When you can get the same skill color from your 1000s of years old ancestors, type of nose your great great grandmother can easily appear on your face, then why you can not trust that your genetic qualities can also pass on to your next generations??
For example it's only Kshatriyas (Varna or Caste of Kings, Rulers, Warriors, fighters, sportsperson who form army) who used to take responsibility to protect the society & fight in case of a war thus possessing exceptional fighting & physical qualities, it's only them & their generations from both Kshatriya parents who used to sacrifice their lives for the country, their women used to become widow, their children used to become Orphans.
Bhahmans (Varna or Caste of Educators, Priests, Saints, Gurus, Monks, Discovers, Scientists) who marry amongst themselves & protects their genes & pass on their specific qualities like intelligence to their next generations. a lots of whom give up their all materialistic life & work & think for society's wellbeing, only survive on Bhiksha (respectful begging) from society. a lots of time they used to spend years in mountains doing meditations to find solutions for the society like Buddha found enlightenment by leaving his materialistic life.
Vaishya (Varna or Caste of Traders, entrepreneurs, businessmen, rich people)
Shudras ( Workers, artists, servicemen) who always had a particular skill to work for the society, the skill which their ancestors passed on to him, which they had achieved mastery from generations of harnessing & practice. works like making metallic weapons & tools
Now there is a factor of present day inter-caste Discrimination, which is a social problem not a religious on at all & there is no evidence that it existed before 1000 years ago. this discrimination only came after, invaders from Arab, Central Asia came to INDIA thus burned Indian universities, killed Millions, looted & demolished 100s of 1000s of temples which used to be source of knowledge at that time.
Sanatana Dharma (Hinduism) is the only religion, where there are more female goddesses than male gods, where many many Trees, plants, animals like cows, mother earth, the moon, the sun, planets of solar system, wind, fire, soil, Rivers like Ganga, even small water stream are considered as holly & worshipped. Hindus had been always vegetarians before foreign invasion & it's culture got mixed with Hinduism. still today more than 50% don't like to kill animals to fill their stomach. where can you find nature so much integrated in the Religion & culture?
these thing can justify Hinduism's enlightenment, love, care & empathy towards nature which has always been there since 1000s of years & form oldest religion, oldest languages, oldest civilization of the world. INDIA is a land, from where 4 of the world's major religions made up of Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism & Buddhism originated. all four are just members of the same family which have same principles & value system of love & empathy towards other human beings & nature, unlike Abrahamic religions, which are just hollow block & only have a agenda to conquer & rule the world.
Without caste system, Society will fall apart, eg:-USA, Cases of single mother is around 25-30%
@@JhabruTigergo touch grass
I can tell you it will never go away. Because the caste system today is associated with social interaction and distribution of economic resources, as India becomes wealthier, the wealth gap becomes greater, the caste system will become worse and worse. Not only inter-caste but also intra-caste.
its not about wealth, its about family culture. i wont marry a person from different family culture.
As an indian If you and your partner belong to same cast chances of you getting married are 90 percent and if you belong to a different cast than your partner chances of you getting married are 10 Percent
If you've a spine you could marry anyone (if the other person consents as well). But yeah technically you lose some support from family. There's a reason why countries like US has individualistic societies.
@@peteck007 indians are slaves of there parents.
@@peteck007 not some support here in india you have to lose everyone parents cousins uncles aunts nobody will support you if you marry outside of your caste so other than hurting everyone younger generation prefers to marry someone within their own caste
@@peteck007 man India the whole society treats you as outcast or bad influence making you loner and life harder atleast USA doesn't do that that's the difference
@@rosec_rose6661 you probably don't live in India, we've had neighbours who married through "intercaste marriages". They never had a problem, since they didn't belong to my caste neither the people in the area belong to their castes. So that's how it works out. But yeah choose to live somewhere else other than the same caste neighbourhood. But yeah the neighbours are always there to help. It's not like every caste out there is going to shun you lol.
Just looking at major Indian newspapers and their matrimonial ads column would tell you how marrying inside the same caste is still relevant in Indian culture.
I had two such friends, they both have the same story.
Fell in love with a guy friend, some of their family knew about it and even liked the guy.
But when they completed their college and the talk of marriage came, it was made clear that they cannot marry outside of caste.
In India, for majority of people, Social Status matters more than the happiness of their kids.
This is the case within a single religion,
Imagine the hurdle for people who want to marry someone from another religion, or the people wanting to have a same-sex marriage.
They Indians do not marry within their "caste" which are only 4 in number they marry within their "jati" i.e. someone with similar religious profile (kuldevi, ishta devi, samskara requirements). It is similar to westerners marrying within their Church
@@taitreyarr2715 yeah these bramhin
have created caste under caste
@@DhruvKumar-tf3gw The job of creating castes was given to Lord Herbert Risley in the 1870s. He is the one who created the hierarchy of castes and sub-castes. This list was then inserted into the British Indian census beginning 1880s and Indians had to compulsorily select one caste. Most Indians did not have a clue.
@@taitreyarr2715 if they were given a choice then why do you think not everyone would have chosen to be superior.
@@taitreyarr2715 and also you hypocrite 😒
He divided it on the basis of race not CASTE and the division had nothing to do with hierarchy it was to better understand the ethnic group of india
The first girl was on point. Props to her for understanding the corruption and systemic discrimination because of caste system which is indoctrinated into our daily lives without us knowing about it.
who's from lower caste in Hindu caste system ,faces discrimination "untouchability" still very much prevalent in Hindu society .
It's worst form of human torture .
Marrying outside caste is not possible
Honour killings and you cant even marry within your caste " gotra (subcaste) . It's worst form of torturing . Untouchables are called Dalits and crime against so called untouchables happening through the country even in 2023. It exist everywhere in India.
Nhi yrr abhi Aisa nhi mere gaav me to sb shi hai
@@vidurrajwat-ow4cd4ii3u Abe bawaligand gotra gene pools ke liye hota hai ek gotra ke bhai behen hote hai apni behen pr hi chdna chahta hai kya?
In my state, majority people doesn't care about gotra. Recently I came to know about this thing and now I might sound a bit conservative here but gotra is pure genetics and hence are told to avoid marrying within the same gotra as these may lead to transfer of genetic disorders to your kids . And I am not making this up you can read about it and scientific report was published about it .
Everything other thing that you mentioned is absolutely not good which is happening in our country.
@@surjalikadeb2829 pure genetics ? Indian population is inbreeding , people practicing endogamy. Imagine a caste having 500 gotra in single state now they are marrying eachother it continues from more then 1500 years in India still continuing till this day you don't have genetic diversity you endup marrying your own family tree . In some caste female gotra doesn't count . The large population collapse is ahead .
Marrying outside your caste can prevent genetic disease of newborn in your family.
@@vidurrajwat-ow4cd4ii3u caste and gotra are two different thing . Yes caste system should be abolished. All I am saying is that gotra is different , a caste having 500 gotra is not an issue but marrying the one who shares the same gotra should be avoided because both in religious texts and science it does shows that the chances of genetic disorders is more likely to happen to the kids who having parent falling in the same gotra . And as you said girl's gotra doesn't even consider doesn't mean that she doesn't have genes inherited from her parents . Do you even know that a kid shares 51 percent and 49 percent similarity in their blood with their mom and dad respectively. But Do you mean that you are an exception where your kid won't inhert anything from the mother ? Obviously it's your life Mary whomever you want and I have nothing to do with that but yeah gotra thing I said might sound unreal but it is not.And If this happens then either you or your wife may have recessive disorder genes that may not be seen in your health because they are in hybrid condition but can get transmitted if both genes get matched. Different caste marriages and different gotra marriages should do happen for the genetic diversity to happen. And these thing like in breeding and endogamy is absolutely a burden.
Can Indians marry outside their caste ? Yes. However, it affects where you are living, how economically you are independent and how much you love your partner, to face some struggles if it comes. Love will overcome all difficulties, if not it's not true love, I hope !
No such thing as love
The question of whether Indians can marry outside their caste is a complex and contentious issue that touches upon deep-seated cultural and social beliefs. This serves an awareness, this can be featured on Off the Record. :)
A very good interview. Summarized the situation very well.
Well we can do..... bc younger people doesnt care about cast...
Yeah
I don’t care about caste but I care about my parents.
I don't care about the caste . Iam sure of that.
Only in Urban area, things are completely different in rural area
@@vishalmuralidharan4515 well... we all care about our parents.. but parenst and cast is diff.. thing... im handling them both of them in diff.. way..
I suggest Asian Boss to visit different states in India since it’s diverse. In Punjab, Sikhs practice less casteism, and in Tamil Nadu, Caste system is nearly abolished due to the influence of the Activist Periyar in 1900’s, so much that everyone takes their dad’s name and not their family/caste name in Tamilnadu.
Problem is not with intercaste marriages, its with marrying SC and ST
😂😂😂😂you are right
right
Leave it bro, we will develop and change our caste into oc 🫡 and when anyone asks about the cultural traditions we can simply say we grew up without family traditions.😂 That's my plan if I ever marry and have kids 😎
@@Indigo518 what is oc?
@@ujjwalyadav3783 caste, like SC and st
2:50 She is very articulate.
Congratulations for your excellent vidéo! Definitely among the best ones! Not only casts still matter but also local languages, traditions and cultures . Let’s just pick up one exemple : Gujarati marry mostly with Gujarati even while living abroad! India will overcome this issue over the decades.
So based on this, it just seems like the caste system has been systemically labeled and organized, but it doesn’t feel too different from how social classes work in other countries.
While we like to talk about social freedoms and acceptance everywhere nowadays, social classes are still very much real almost everywhere, and it’s unusual for higher classes to marry lower classes, not just because of discrimination but because of lack of interaction.
Someone who went to a private school in New York City and then studied Law in Harvard will be rather unlikely to marry a mechanic from the Bronx. Partly because there just aren’t many places where they’d interact, but also because there would be considerable social backlash around the higher class party.
India probably has much stronger caste discrimination and conflict, and emphasizes it more, but let’s not pretend like most of our respective countries don’t also feature a reasonably large divide between the higher and the lower classes.
Upper Caste Brahmins marrying Upper Caste Srivastavas and calling it inter caste marriage 🤡🤡
brahmins are also having many sub castes, maratha brahmin won't like to marry bengali brahmin even if they both are shrivastav, region also make difference
Kayastha 🗿🍷 shrivastav
😂😂😂
@@ipsnamansinha4601Yep. YOU are the problem
😂😂😂😂
7:00 The guy does that head wobble thing 😅 I think Asian Boss also did a video on that haha!
I personally know more than 10 intercaste or inter religion married couples who got hitched in past five years . Each one of them said something similar like, You see parents are fine with it as long as your partner is well educated,earns decent and can share responsibilities.
Are u bengali? In bengal it happens.
@@anirbanghosh1670 I am a delhiite.
Hitched meaning 🥲
Bcs North West Indians are From Iran Afghanistan so we Migrated, We are Different rest of Country, Delhi is covered By bihari up Black skin😁
@@dhruvnegi54261 Cope
Intercaste marriages in India today are not as strict as they were a few years ago. I am from one of the least developed districts of an Indian state. And if inter-caste marriages are happening in and around my villages which are the last-tier villages of India then it means now it is becoming normal in India. Yes, it will take a few more years to reach its peak.
May be not in your area but the state where i was grown is really strict i can assure people can even go to honour killing for inter caste marriages. My own family and relatives though they don't support honour killing they can easily disown their family member if done inter caste marriage. And sadly we are not even in village we are in smart city all family are well educated 🥲 I don't know how to change this people mindset even education failed to do so..
@@Miniflower25 reason is reservation they know reality
My UC family allowed all kids to marry any UC whether thakur,rajput,Brahmin but not💀
People are allowing inter caste marriages between general category but between general, OBC or sc/st it is very rare.
Loads of the answers are super intelligent and well explained. Mainly the girl with the hoop earrings u are amazing!
Caste is basically like class of Europe... derived from Portuguese word Casta. Like Clergy - Brahmins, Kshatriya - Nobels, Vaishya - Traders/Peasants, Shudra - Nobels. Last Untouchable is not mentioned anywhere but developed out of social division during and later was mentioned in Manu smriti.
It's just like the Royals of England don't marry locals...They find other nobles from Scotland/Wales. It is kind of similar.
But Indian caste system is little different, because one time during 5th century there were some misinterpretations, and it resulted in believing that caste is based on birth. There were many reasons for that. Misinterpretation of word Varna and Jati. Truth be told caste was never to strictly followed before 1- 2 Century AD.
Caste is basically called as Jati in Hindi, but Jati actually refers to Hierarchy more like Clan. Like many people in India will have names like Srivas, Dhobi, Raut which depicts that in the past their ancestors did some word related to their surname, but for many like Yadav, Rajput, Jatt, it is a clan. But both are considered as Jati/caste in Modern India, but it is very different.
Still royal blood married megan , but they didn't killed them just because they married apart from royal blood. But Indians do kill other caste especially lower caste people which is a problem.
But upper caste won't accept Yadav as kshatriya .
@@cricketlovers3013 even so called "lower" castes (although I don't think they r lower by any means) don't accept inter caste marriages. I've seen it first hand, boy, girl both not upper caste but diff casts, it came down to fist fights and they finally eloped. Both families brandished them
@@cricketlovers3013 they don't even consider jaat, gujjar etc also as kshtriya
it is just like they classified specify caste can be called but whereas jaat gujjar yadav consider each other as kshatriyas
altogether it is kinda BS coz basically everyone is mixed from the origin (scientifiaclly)
3:15 she is very pretty, well spoken and has a nice accent :)
I’m an African American born and raised in the USA…I grew up with many Indian friends and I had Indian clients years ago when I was in the Cosmetology business. Both men and women. We also eat at their restaurants and shop sometimes at the Indian grocery stores. We definitely stay and patronize the hotels. One of my family member is currently in India and she’s visiting her boyfriend’s family for the first time. We are very Dark Skin African Americans, educated, and we’re Christian. But my family member and her very nice Indian boyfriend are very happy together. Yes, he was born and raised in Northern India and yet they have so much in common, and are in love. I pray that it works for them and his family seems very friendly and hospitable to my cousin since she’s been there.
Learning about the caste system made me understand why indians in Zambia (my country of birth) were and still are discriminatory towards us black people. When I moved to Australia I noticed they're so open to marrying white people and assimilating to western cultures than African ones despite some indians having been in Africa for over 200 years.
Do U think Kashmiri Himachal Dogra Pasthun Pahadi Taraki Look Like South or Marathi u say Is it possible?? We r Native To Afghanistan Pakistan And Lower Iran😊
This problem is mostly present in Rural communities and urban community with relatives in villages also practice this. Slowly the castes are being dissolved and with more urbanization we will see complete eradication of caste system maybe in 2-3 generations.
Lol, go and see the marriages of big cities , rarely u will find intercaste marriage😒😒😒
@@Vicky-wu3rz I'm from patna my neighbour did intercaste marriage 😂 and in my family my uncle did too we are not living modern area of patna though i think upper caste people don't accept their children marry someone from lower caste but lower caste people don't care caste system too much
Who are these people being interviewed? I mean WOW!!! Well educated, and eloquent and the amount of awareness of social norms. . Blown away!!!
Marry the person u love and make your own empire and create ur own cast and legacy 😊
bro aee,you sound it majestic
what rubhish. Please Showcase time tested examples/models , not at a individual level, but at the society level.
No never
Actually many castes were formed due to these kind of marriages in ancient times. Karna was a sut putra - This sut caste is not lower caste but was a result of Brahmin + Kshatriya wedlock - These people mostly drive Chariots or related to chariots (Ami Ganatra’s book)
4:50 I chuckled for a second there, when he paused for a second before continuing his answer
I am honestly a little surprised at these reactions.
I am 43 yrs of age and my parents had an inter-caste marriage. And I did not know about it till the age of 14 - not because they wanted to hide the fact or anything. Just because it was an irrelevant piece of information. The topic of caste never really came up in our family discussions, even our extended family on both sides never mentioned it. One day when I came back from school, I was discussing my day with my Mom, as I generally did, when I mentioned how one of my closest friends kept going on and on about how she was an elite Brahmin. It was then that she asked me why didn't I tell her(my friend) so was I, and I was like "I am? Oh! I didn't know that!". So it was at the grand old age of 14 that the caste system I had read about in books became a reality for me. I suddenly was a Brahmin - and trust me, I did not see any wings sprouting upon knowing that. I then came to know my dad was a Brahmin and Mom was a lower caste. I was very surprised cuz my Mom's side of the family had more educated and well-placed relatives than my dad's side. My dad never had any qualms in revealing how money was always scarce in his growing up years. Some of my paternal uncles had to drop out of college to support the younger siblings' education. So even though I loved and respected both sides of my family, I always knew my mother's side had the higher social and financial standing.
So basically, a person's caste never was , neither is , nor will be important for me. I am surprised - and more than a little disappointed - there aren't more responders saying the same.
This is very common story in bengali house didi. But i think if one is doing inter linguistic community , interfaith marriage then girl should see that how girls are treated in laws home. How much freedom to marry out of community they have. Because I have seen some hndu family they don't allow their daughter to marry out side but they are ok if their son marry outside. Typical patriarchal mindset. I don't think it's a good idea for liberal community woman to marry in a conservative community.
@@anirbanghosh1670 That, I do agree with. Fortunately, all inter-linguistic marriages that I know of (and there are many such marriages in my immediate family, and close friends) have worked out beautifully. They are few of the happiest couples I know.
Tomar ma ki nomshudra family theke belongs korto.
@@aninditabanerjee2420 I'm just guessing that all those interlinguistic marriage that u have seen in ur life. U would seldom find bihar /up/Haryana women are marrying Bengali men. They can't actually marry out of community. But u will see men from those community marry Bengali women. And their children aren't learning Bengali language. Is it true in ur observation?
And Bengali man mostly marry marathi and South Indian.
@@anirbanghosh1670 Two of my closest female friends - one Punjabi and another from UP married South Indian boys (Chennai and Andhra). In the inter-linguistic marriages in my family, the new members in the family are from Andhra and Maharashtra. So, for the most part, you are right.
Caste system doesn't work in Northeast India,we have many tribes,yk there's conflict sometimes so,we can't marry some tribes😂😂
uh Tribe itself is another name for caste...
@@xenzorygames4116 but bro,we don't practice caste system in our state,i didn't even know caste system existed untill I reached highschool,I think Arya and tribal people has lot of different things,well whatever it doesn't matter,have a good day brother
@@blheq Arya aren't even a People... but a title given to people who have mastered vedas... there are even Tibetian Aryas... FYI... Tribes like how they don't marry certain Tribes because of the issues they have with each other for example in my state andhra pradesh Naidus and Reddy's will not get married even though both are Sudras... because both were warring each other for a long time since Medivel era... Reddy's were original tribe of Andhra while Naidu's came from Tulunadu and became part of the Telugu society... that is the same reason as your's but nowadays we learnt to forgive them and then nowadays even Nadius and Reddy's are marrying even though historically both hated each other...
@@blheq Caste simply is a parameter to identify and differentiate from one another ,Tribal also follow the same order . Call it caste or Tribes name it makes no difference . And every single tribe consider themselves better than other and the rivalry is much bitter and deep .
@@xenzorygames4116 Their is no relation of word Arya with Veda, in Sanskrit it simply means " Noble one " its an adjective like British's people use when they say " LORD ".
In this era this doesn't matter anymore. This shitty caste system is the very reason we suck in many things.
then marry your own sister...
@@xenzorygames4116 Why don't u marry yourrs???
We are not behind because of caste system otherwise many countries don't allow inter cultural mairrages
I too support intercaste mairrage but it isn't the reason we are behind
But our education system and indians itself who just govt. Job , wanna become engineer or doctor
Even when we have plenty of engineer and doctors 😊
my parents and all my uncles and aunts married outside of their caste without any issue, thankfully caste isn't much of a problem where i live in India. i am not very interested in the institution of marriage but if i were to marry someone someday, i wouldn't care which caste or religion they are from. if they are a decent person, we get along well and have things in common then it will be enough for me
I don’t know where this interview was taken …. But the region I come from (Bengal), inter-caste, inter-race is quite normal, no body cares….I have so many intercaste and inter race marriage in my family and friend circle that knowing this is still such a BIG issue in the other parts of India is quite shocking…..
Bengalis and marathis are the most liberal communities of India .
@@pikachuthunderbolt3919 well Bengalis are getting the taste of their own liberalism now
CP , Delhi
@@pikachuthunderbolt3919 even North East
@Pikáchu thunderbolt ⚡ haha coz of this we don't find girls in our community. In the Marathi family, if the girl/boy has a good job, family background, and religious then the parents, at last, say yes. Like with my cousin's brothers and sisters.
I see more girls doing inter-caste marriages than boys.
Every time I hear stories like these and religion related stuff, I am SO glad I was raised without a religion and I can do whatever I want, date whoever I want, not face any criticism for being a lesbian, etc (I'm European & West African, not an Indian). Religion and social statuses sound like a big pain in the ass. I'm not trying to disrespect anyone who lives like that, you do you! I'm just glad I wasn't born into that. I feel like I can think for myself and believe in whatever I want to believe in. My mother did teach me about all kinds of religions, giving me the option to explore and believe in what I want to. It's nice to hear that things are changing for Indians, tho! Because it seems like most of them wouldn't want to follow that. Thank you for the video! I learned something new today :)
Sorry, but lack of religion is not a sign of better upbringing, and dating a lesbian is not a sign of superior moral standing.
What's important is being open-minded to things that are outside our immediate environment and respecting others individual choices if it's not encroaching upon your freedom.
Keep coping 😂
But if I spoke about LGBT the way you just spoke about religion you'd consider that disrepect lool
@@ajaxjaiswal3442 Huh? But that's not what I said. All I'm saying is, my mother exposed me to all religions and none stuck with me and I am PERSONALLY glad that I had the option to chose my own belief :)
@@LaCréé.e Not really. How you think about LGBT is your thing, has nothing to do with me. If you feel a certain way towards me being a lesbian, that's fine. I'm not gonna force people to like people that are part of LGBT. Everyone has their own views, no? Can you please tell me how what I said is disrespectful? Because like I said, I didn't mean to. I only said that because I know a lot of people on the internet like to take things way to personal, especially with topics like these.
I just want to appreciate how fluent indians in English. You all are also wonderful and good looking in this video 😳😍
They are a former British colony. Every country that was colonised by Britain. The people speak fluent English.
Every single person in India say ,they are open to inter-caste marriage,but most of them don't do it for some reason 🤷🤷🤷
Parents and society 😆
Emotional blackmail
they mentioned reason, parents and who you're exposed to
Forget inter caste, my mom did inter religious marriage back in 80s😂 .
Lol very funny
no-issue, it is another sect of Dharmic religion.
Did she convert?
@@nilnil8411 Yeah..she did. She was a Christian but became a Hindu. Although she continued celebrating both christian and Hindu festivals.
@Tweet Worse Dad was Hindu and mom was Christian.
Caste endogamy is the reason we have so many cultures still surviving and living together for an eternity in India. Sure, the discrimination might be there but that can be easily solved by better law and order situation. Imagine every culture marrying into each other, that'd wipe out the potency and the OG form of culture.
Agreed that not everyone is casteist, but most people here are really ignorant saying that caste system doesn't exist at all. I have met many of these upper caste people from well educated background who are always ready to bash about the lowly existence of chammars(a caste name used as slur) and tribals, even if they don't do it in front of someone who belongs to so called lower caste.
This video was great! It reminds me how diverse and divided India is, I remember the day I found out just how many languages are spoken in India alone. It blew me away. They don’t teach us much about India apart from British raj period. I feel embarrassed thinking the whole country only spoke Hindi.😅
I had a period in my life when I discovered and loved Indian movies, in fact I planned on visiting india as I had a very modern (ideologically) image from these movies, didn't know the cast system was such a big deal.
India is very diverse and has over several Millenia absorbed a lot of influences and evolved societal practices which were mostly put in place to reflect the realities of their times. The fundamental unifying factor has been the “Unity in Diversity” philosophy that to this day is very much embedded in the collective consciousness of India. So you will find all kinds of expressions and its best that you go with an open mind if you still wish to. There is a lot that India has to offer despite these fault lines.
Caste isn't gonna affect you if you visit, you can always come, it's only an issue when its time for an Indian to marry
Dude you can still visit
This is an invisible thing that won’t affect you
It’s equivalent to racial discrimination in multiethnic countries
It’s sad but you can’t do much to eradicate a mindset, like the older lady said it’ll take 50 years or so
It's not. When it comes to marriages, it's an issue that still persists. But on a day to basis, you won't come across people talking about caste.
Caste system is a system of birth based racial segregation of workers, it was introduced in largely Buddhist Indian subcontinent about 1200 years ago by Iranian fire worshippers who escaped to India after the Arab conquest of Persia, Higher castes are less than 15% and have higher percentage of Iranian DNA, Racism is the core of Brahmanical caste system, these migrating Iranians were responsible for genocide of Buddhists and eradication of buddhism in India, 95% of marriages in India are arrange marriages, arrange marriage is a mechanism to maintain the caste system, Indian parents from upper castes dont blink an eye killing their own kids if they marry someone from lower caste, this is the reality of Hindu/Brahman caste/varna based ugly religion.
Indian was a religious and moral society when it was a Buddhist country, 1200 years ago it all changed, they (Iranian Brahmans) killed all the Buddhist and eradicated Buddhism from India, now its a slave society where less than 15% upper caste Hindus (Higher percentage of Iranian DNA) rule over more than 85% lower caste Indians, they rape, torture, murder them whenever they want, they control everything, In Hindu/Brahmanical caste system which is a birth based segregation system of workers, all the manual labor has been assigned to lower and untouchable castes whereas all the non manual labour work has been assigned to higher castes, that is why the quality of Indian labor is very poor because the labor class is demoralized by birth by giving them the label of untouchable lower caste, and caste system is not like class system, it is like a building with multiple floors and there are no stairs connecting any of the floors. you will stay where you are until you die. We need a blood revolution in India to destroy Hinduism and Brahmans to become a modern and progressive country.
For me, caste does not matter if you are a kind and honest person 😊
so as i am a chrsitain would you still accept me?
@@kratos_wish Caste and religion are separate things 😊
@@tejeshrimahajan3954 so basically it means you will not marry a christian
@@kratos_wish I am a Christian and will definitely marry one when the time arrives...
@@tejeshrimahajan3954 but your surname tells otherwise
Money is the ultimate cast. 🤔
In India, the upper caste people are actually wealthy and privileged.
@@ashaypallav4158 not for long
@@ashaypallav4158 really?? Lol...not where I live btw....
@@ashaypallav4158 yep
Appreciate how most of the individuals featured in the interview have an accurate understanding of the situation even though solving certain problems with discriminatory attitude still continues to be a major struggle.
Really great interviews, brought so much understanding to this subject...
The fact is that they say that they will do intercaste marriage but deep down in their heart,they won't....
It's just camera and they want to show how modern and we'll educated they are...😂😂😂
Well said 100% True
Nothing wrong in that. As far as reservati0n is there and SC/ST act is there.
@@sairis Yes also this high caste peoples have brainwashed Indians by their superiority....That's why most people's are like that..
@@rohitmore6284 , 🤣😂😂. Tribals never part of varna system. Most of them won't marry with SC. Then how come UC br@inwashed them??
OBC where big land dominant groups finds it difficult to marry with a lower OBC. And still UC brainwashed them??
In fact UC too do marriages among themselves.
I am a Catholic of Italian extraction. Nearly 50 years ago, I married an upper caste Hindu woman. We are very compatible--mutual respect and good, old-fashioned love can go a long way to smoothing out the bumps in a relationship. I have never made my wife do anything that she has not wished to do, such as giving up her vegetarianism,, nor have I prevented her from fulfilling her dreams. We have had to face many challenges in our lives, but we're still together--'til death do us part.
For an indian marriage, condition according to family
- Arrange marriage
-rich or descent income
- same caste or above caste
- no drinking & smoking
- good job
What will people say ,,,thats what parents thinks ,
If girl/boy finds partner from same caste their will be not much issue.
After that only job matters with decent pay.
It Depends And mostly on Middle and Upper part of society
The interviewees are so well spoken and explain the situation very succinctly.
Inter caste is still okay. But what about inter-religious marriages ?? That's a even more deep and darker taboo in India. Your respect, your status, your social connections everything can get soiled if you have an inter religious marriage. This is normal India as of now.
😂 yes if it is muslim and hindu then you won't be alive
@@imawarrior4527 correct 😂😂
@@Ezra-wy7ux it's mostly possible in abroad in india it's 0.00001%
@@imawarrior4527inter religion marriages are problematic!! Most of thr times the girls are somehow converted in their husband's religion!!!