Monitor Audio Silver 7G, $1500 Bookshelf Speaker Challenge vs. Aperion Audio & Heco Celan Part II
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Heco Celan Revolution 4, Aperion Audio Verus III Concert V8B, Harbeth Compact 7ES-3 XD, Peachtree Carina, Peachtree Novapre, Aperion Audio E2 Stereo Amplifier, FEZZ Titania Tube Integrated Amplifier, HiFi Rose RS250, Arylic S50 Pro+ Streaming/Dac, Audience & Audioquest cables. - เพลง
I love the sound of my Monitor 100 7g paired with my Rotel RA-1572 amplifier.
Thank you Mike, enjoy your 7G!
Have owned Silver 100 7G Heritage edition for 3 months and can’t fault the performance and presentation of these speakers matched to Audiolab 6000a and solidsteel stands they envelop the listener and can listen for hours but everyone has different ears and listening environments also musical preferences so ….
100% correct. Love that green finish. Thank you for watching and commenting.
I've had Silver 100 7G Limited (green) Edition since last year november.
In my humble opinion the main advantage of these speakers is excellent fidelity for medium singing voices in blues and jazz.
And as an illustration, let it be Imelda May's mezzo-soprano from the album "Life Love Flesh Blood"
@@SeniorJuniorLV Glad you like them, that's what matters. Love the color combo, wish more manufacturers offered these types of options.
@@SeniorJuniorLVaside from proven audiolab amp partner kit,
can you recommend other amps? (synergy/balance)
I have the limited edition green and they look and sound awesome. I have had 100s of speakers. These are absolutely excellent. I paired mine with my Marantz SR4021 stereo receiver and it sounds excellent. It is hard to find any fault on these at all.
This is what I'm talking about right here. The publications all hail these Monitor Audio speakers and - to me anyway - it's clear why. Thanks for cutting through the hype for us, Jason.
Thank for watching and your nice comment.
Monitor Audio Silver 100 7g sounds Great with Arcam Stereo Amp
Which Arcam do you have? Thinking of getting these to go with my SA20
I’m using MA Silver Rx 6.5 mid woofer with SA 10 Arcam. Great match. Also using Klipsch 10 inch sub.
Yamaha as-2200 amplifier goes quite well with these Monitors ❤
Nice comparison. Any chance of reviewing the Aperion Audio Novus Bookshelf? I'm considering those for a desktop set up. Thanks.
Not sure Dan. Thank you for watching ✌️
The trend is that they get brighter and brighter 🤣
Right now, I cannot refute that...
I had Monitor Audio for 3 months, they made my crazy with their bright signature. Not musical at all.
Thank you for this! Another reviewer (North Coast, a retailer) reviewed the Monitors as well as part of a listening test with the Rotel A11 Tribute. They mentioned similar results with the treble in that they found the cymbals to be forward of the vocals and a bit hissy on multiple strikes vs being discreet. I was wondering if you have also reviewed the ELAC Unifi Reference UBR62? It is in my shopping list, but the Monitor Audio real veneer model had looked more attractive.
Glad it was helpful! I have not spent any time with Elac yet.
@@2ChannelListeningI would also be curious to hear your thoughts on the Elacs (DBR62 and/or UBR62) as they are also on my list together with the Bronze and Silver 100s.
P.S. I agree that the Monitor Audio speakers look a lot nicer than the Elacs. That plus the 8" vs 6.5" woofer is what drew me in. Sadly, I'm unable to do a side by side listening test.
the real veneer looks greak! But the thick black speaker ring (like bronze) brother me. I wish it is made of aluminium or stainless steal. 😂
I had the MA RX1 Silver and liked piano on it. Great for jazz, classical, acoustic but not for rock, movies, etc. Too laid back for some music but transparent and a wide, not really deep soundstage. Later, tried the MA Silver 100 6th ed., and found it similar to this description of the 7g. The Silver 100 6g could be fatiguing from upper mids to highs. Not so much as nuanced as it just threw everything at you. Constantly adjusting the volume level especially at night. I did like the lows and lower mids but not as tight and fast as my Focal 807Ws were. The upper mids and highs are great on the 807w.
If I want a different standmount speaker with a larger woofer, I would definitely consider the Aperion. Right now, have ML 15i and I like it. While I think it is more a movie speaker, it does very well with music as well. While on the brighter side of neutral and kind of reminds me of MA Silver series, it avoids what I didn't like about the Silver 100s. Both use Aluminum drivers but the AMT/FMT tweeter avoids the sins of the gold tweeter in the MA.
All my other speakers are paper type woofers, Focal 807W, Triangle Zeta and Dali Opticon 1s. I like what paper can do for music I listen to but Al has its merits. Typically, at least with British speakers, I haven't cared for most speakers using kevlar or similar type woven material, which is what Aperion seems to use, but who knows, I may like it.
I did like the Silver 100s on some material, not going to say I hated those for everything, but seemed it had too many issues I couldn't overlook, even when it was nearly half price at the time.
You summed up your experience well, glad you noticed the big difference between the RX series and these last couple generations. I'm not imagining it...lol. How do you feel about your Focal 807W treble?
@@2ChannelListening I prefer the 807W treble to alot of speakers I have tried and like it better than the Poron version Focal uses now. Extended , airy without being overly harsh especially with Hegel and my Keces amps. Doesn't mean I don't like less "trebly" presentations, but depends on overall balance and expectations in music I listen to. There is something about the W driver too over the V versions which make a good combo. Haven't heard flax drivers, but no interest in the 906.
Too much treble at certain frequencies can bother me , for example the Jamo C93i I once tried.
Still, that old RX1 Silver could do something a bit special with overtones that stood out that many other could only hint at or didn't project. Focal 807W comes close, but better in most every other category. But its big and I am shrinking my systems down.
Seriously considered the Dali Rubicon 1 as well as the new Neat Petite Classic. But settled on Opticon 1 (half price helped) for nearfield and living with the ML 15i and Triangle Zetas for now. The Zetas (like the old color series) could be considered the little brother to the Focals I have and are much preferred to the Borea series to me. Just a bit of glare with some material on human voice but aren't as forward sounding, something seductive in their presentation.
In spite of being budget speakers, at low to moderate volumes, I enjoyed them better than more expensive speakers such as Quad S2 (flat stage, a speaker that couldn't get my toe tapping but fun for movies) as well as Dali Menuet SEs, did alot right, but for that resolution it heavily truncated detail in the music, perhaps designed that way to sound smooth, too smooth for me . Also, to get that resolution, it gave a much smaller image so only for nearfield. Much prefer the Opticon 1. The Opticon does nearly as well in the nearfield without hiding details in the music and still sounds satisfying from further away.
So moving up in price by my experience didn't always yield better results for me particularly in my current setting, use and tastes in a moderately sized room. But no system is perfect, but mine are still very enjoyable. I have enjoyed other speakers too when I listened to them in either another person's setup or at a dealer's, far less today, but set the constraint on smaller designs supplemented with a sub (don't require much bass myself).
Use both a Aune x8 with sparkos opamp and a Topping d70s dac, though I considered others. Budget can be good...enough. The little Keces E40 integrated is a really nice kit as well.
Excellent information, thank you for sharing this with the community.
I own the silvers powered with nad 399 sound they delivered is out of this world I've heard heco no where near the silvers in Soundstage performance.
Great review. Had the old recent generation gold 100 version that I returned. Sounded like a metal marble on a roulette wheel. Wayyy too bright with the ribbon Tweeter!🤔🤫🤯🤪 Built fantastic. Sound yuck!🤣🤣
I too almost pulled the trigger on one of those Gold's, however the performance of the Silver was such a turnoff to me that I decided against it. Sounds like you experienced more of the same. Thanks Jay.
Great comparisons, Sir. Do you perceive any of these speakers better than the Ascend Acoustics Sierra 2ex?
I have a dialogue with Mr. Fabrikant regarding his LX speaker. That will satisfy several requests I am getting.
@@2ChannelListening I know you praised the EX model and its ribbon and was curious to see your take, in comparison with these ones, from memory, I guess, since you do not have them anymore (?).
I'm not avoiding your question, I'm stalling...if I get the pair of LX, I will submit my thoughts for that video on the EX2 and LX.
@@2ChannelListening Oh, I understand now. :)) Looking forward to that. 👍
Please compare monitor audio bronze 100 vs silver 100
Hey Jason! Excellent thorough and informative review. I had this particular speaker in consideration to replace my KEF Q350 speakers in a secondary system. After hearing about the loosening mounting bolts and the crossover frequency it is off the table for me. The types of music that I listen to I would be hearing that speaker bite a lot! Have a Great one!
Glad it was helpful K, thanks for watching and adding to the conversation. I still think you should go V8B and move your V5B to the secondary. Or vise versa.
@@2ChannelListening The Monitor Audio was on the table before the V8B came along. Solely focused on the V8B now. Thank you for all the work that you do to give us a look inside the cabinets, and at the drivers. Rock On!
There’s older versions than listed. I must admit the wood quality cabinet on the silver RS is was superior to what’s offered since.
The bracing in this 7G was better than my RX, yet as you said, the finish was much nicer on my RX. Cheers.
Thanks for comparisons. I have always felt that the Monitor Audio sins were more forgivable at the UK prices than their US price category.
Your statement certainly pertains to several brands sent to the US market, some worse than others. Thank you Sean.
Hello monitor audio silver 100 7g speaker, which stereo amplifier can be perfectly paired with?
The one that sounds good to your ears, you have to experiment and find out what you like, not what I like. Cheers.
@@2ChannelListening very true, I definitely agree with you, but I'm just wondering about the amplifiers that match very nicely with this speaker, and there's a problem like this, not every seller has the opportunity to listen to speakers and amplifiers, in short, they just sell, so user reviews are also important to me.
how does the philharmonic BMR compare to these three bookshelf speakers?
The BMR has a truer mid-range neutrality to it, a little purer voicing, however, even the BMR wouldn't keep up with the bass of the Aperion. The BMR is still worth the extra $500, but its not a night day difference. Where the embarrassment would come in is the BMR vs. the Harbeth C7...those two come down to musical taste and mid-range preference.
@@2ChannelListening thanks!
Try putting some nylon washers on the bolts, the boomi sound can be controlled by how tight it is as well, You not torque the bolts enough!! especially on the woofer, really crank it tight and fairly tight for the tweeter.
Really they should have some blue loctite is there any signs on the threads? This would prevent this from happening. Has somebody already taken them apart? Another thing put some Teflon PTFE tape in a clockwise direction around the thread just twice should be enough, Really crank that bolt up on the woofer and fairly tight on the tweeter. Try and get both speakers even need to be balanced really, What you could do is use a guitar tuner try and set it to e flat if you can and play some test tones at 311.127Hz and an octave below this probably about 85 dB. Be Interesting to contact monitor audio and ask them what they recommend their suggestions as well set torque, don't be afraid to tighten the woofer and the tweeter fairly tight. If you got some plaster tape the spongy stuff, wrap it around the majority of the bolts leaving enough thread help with unwanted sound resonance from them the nylon washer will help as well. probably best to use a nylon washer and a steel washer where the steel washer would be against the cabinet. Is it bi-terminal? Try a resist in line somewhere from 0.5 to 1.2 ohms depends how bright they are?
Great DIY advice for those Monitor Audio owners out there, thanks HG!
@@2ChannelListening give it a go! What frequency do you think you don't like from the speak That may be more enhanced gritty.. than it should be. Try playing some native American flute in E minor If you're playing a mono signal and switching between the speakers does it sound the same?
If the cabinet is MDF, be careful with torquing screws too hard especially after taking out already. This is not like regular wood.
@@jctai100 yeah you got a point but this is a bolts that clamp the construction yes but you don't want to go gorilla on it you're correct 35 Newton metres will be fine for the woofer about 15 nm for the tweeter
@@jctai100 Good point
Any chance you will review a non-Chinese made bookshelf speaker at this price range? Perhaps a sonus faber or focal model? USA made would also be great. It's cheaper to make things in China, so maybe up the price level to $2,000 for those newcomers.
Absolutely, I am working on this very request. Ascend Acoustics LX.
@@SumDumFuk69 the lumina series is made in Italy. Those are at a comparable price point
I shocked to find the silver 100s in this comparison price category in the US?! I got mine for £489 in the UK
That’s a considerable difference. However, the Heco still competes with the MA on your shores for price and performance.
They retail for £799 in the UK
You can have spl or bass not both unless you sacrafice space
True enough, takes time to create a room with that balance.
Any chance we know your room size?
Silver 100 is overpriced in US, in Europe it's under a 1000 dollars.
Shipping inflation sure has had a deleterious effect on this hobby. Such is life. Thank you for watching.
Can Onkyo nr6100 drive ma silver?
100 Watts, surely it can power them sufficiently. All depends on how loud need them to get to your listening position.
@@2ChannelListening 👌
I believe that Monitor Audio have to many speaker ranges which may well contribute to a low standard of product/s.
Ditch the bronze series and up the quality with the Silver series.
That's my 1 pence worth the all....
There certainly is a dense overlap of some budget products until one reaches Gold status.
@@2ChannelListening They were doing the same tactic back in the 80's.
Try some TAD speaker
Try some “TAD”? Cough $$$$
How it measures if you give it to Danny, I am sure they are all bad .😢
I wouldn’t make that assumption. Certainly will not be trying any others for awhile. Almost bought a Gold version 😮💨
Danny is a salesman.
@@richardsinger01 Agree 100% I can't take that guy seriously.
It all depends who you want to listen to as I have seen many a review that begs to differ vastly with this review, just saying
Its not about "wanting to listen" to differing opinions, so much as a reminder that our ears and tastes are not the same. Some might be fooled into thinking every new component is the "new greatest". Rubbish. I want everything to be an incremental improvement, buy my preferences say otherwise. Cheers.
...he doesn't know what he's talking about.