Hey Man excellent video. Tons of pertinent and useful information. As you know I have a pair of the Aperion Audio V5B speakers in house for almost a year now. I am still amazed by how much tight punchy bass that I get from that 5 1/4 inch driver in a thirteen inch tall cabinet. I love the wire jumpers too. The gloss cherry finish is beautiful!
Bit embarrassed to admit I have 14 Aperion Audio speakers in my home. I made my 1st AA speaker purchase 15 years ago; 7.1 main cinema, 3.1 cinema and recently added pair of V6T Towers to provide an awesome 2 channel experience. Zero issues with reliability/build quality and their beautiful furniture grade cabinets has gone a long way with the “misses” support of my “hobby”.
Finally, the Aperion V8B compared against other $1500 competitors. Need some sound samples between the speakers (though I know this channel does not do that). Wish there were some REW plots to show the bass response of the V8B vs competitors
@@2ChannelListening I'd be happy to do that for free if I had a youtube channel. Others do it and they don't get paid! Well, actually they do if their youtube channel has a lot of subscribers
Thank You, Jason. Yes still there's plenty of (depressing) trade-off to be considered in that price range. With the V8Bs it might be the the tweeter which may have it's problems with the "sshhhh" and lower "sch" phonemes, among many speaker competitiors. We will learn from you... Whenever I bought bookshelf speakers in the past a pleasant surprise was when rather than pondering about subwoofers early I discovered a little headroom for attenuation (like -2dB) in the lower like 40 Hz bass department. Some - just some - will actually deliver on that! Hecos are available as "open box new" items over and over again for less than 900 Euros here in Germany. - Heco among other brands from that conglomerate have a reputation for well engineered drivers but cheesy inner parts like damping mats and crossover components ever since. Traces of hardnened out hot glue are just everywhere, on and off the crossover. Wood screws will no longer engage with their MDF after slightest overtightening, be careful!😅 Keep them coming!
You pointed out something very key with the Heco that I have to belabor in the next video. As to say (depressing) I've never felt that critical about speakers in the $1,000 - $2,000 US range. So few have really stood out with above average build quality and components that I choose to be more excited when something like the Aperion V8B and Philharmonic BMR come along.
@@2ChannelListening I thought again... maybe too harsh that "depressing" term I used. Well I did too much of "sidegrading" in my early years within - but learned from it
Like all the info you put into your videos. After you finish your upgrade on the Heco's, why not send them to GR-Reach for evaluation and further advancements, it would be interesting to have both of your takes on this speaker.
I'm surprised that the crossed that at 2800 an 8 " starts beaming around 2000 maybe the tweeter doesn't get that low idk but everything else it looks really good for the money. It's a good looking speaker . Big woofers just can't be beat. Good video I like the way you dig into the speakers .
The only speaker that got a little unruly was the 7G on electric guitar, certainly jumps and bites in low mids. The V8B's were the flattest of the three, meaning most controlled and consistent, not dull. Appreciate you watching and commenting, thank you.
How do the Aperion (as well as the others) sound at low to moderate volume levels? That's what I mainly listen at. Does the bass retain its qualities or is it a speaker that needs to be given lots of power before it reaches its performance levels? Also, how is imaging and stage depth? I have had MA silver 100 6th in my room and while I liked it for the most part, it could sound a bit congested in the upper mods/highs at times. But bass, midbass and lower mids were nicely defined and punchy. It also had a very wide stage but it wasn't very deep. No experience with Heco.
Given your previous experience with various Ascend Acoustics speakers, I was curious if you had considered including their new Sierra LX speaker, which is right at the $1,500 target for this speaker comparison? It apparently has unbelievable bass (both extension and output) for a speaker of it's size.
I ask myself sometimes..can you buy any good speaker for under 2000 euros. I have the money but just cant find that speaker that gives me that wow factor.
I loved the video, but I couldn't find part 2 of this video. Did Aperion win❓ I also wish you would have shown the woofer since you removed it from the speaker anyways. 👍
@@2ChannelListening set up is facing along the wider part of the room ( it’s not a dedicated audio room) . My floor standers currently are about 5 feet away from the front wall (but i move them back against the front wall after each listening session) and about 7. 5 feet apart and my chair is about 8.5 feet away . I tried the Triangle Bro 3 before , it was great with jazz and vocals but with rock , it just was not resolving enough , was “messy”. I’ve been looking for big bookshelves on a budget ever since .
Hard to give this a legit comparison since the space is completely different as are the electronics. The Aperions are darn good, I mean really terrific for $1,500, especially such robust well defined bass. The BMR's will play a bit more neutral and flatter, yet I still love the air of the ribbon tweeter so I would nod upper level information and presentation to the BMR. I have yet to hear stronger, fuller bass from a stand mount than the Aperion V8B.
Hmmm. I like cheese. Cheesy absorbant pads, and cheesy x-over. Yum! But wait, no ferrous speaker posts? Aw, c'mon, Aperion! Could be a deal breaker! 😂🤣 Thanks fer the review! 🍺
Strange as the Heco placed first in a previous review compared with Focal, SVS, Dali, Monitor Audio among others. As a budget speaker, I found it strange Heco placed as well as it did in comparison to the others. Well, all the others are still within the budget range as well.
@@2ChannelListening Wish the wood veneer was available in the States for the Heco. Gloss black just too much. Though the black ash on the MA is really nice.
Certainly one of the very few areas of non detrimental cost cutting. I will say its density is less prone to ringing versus the cheap plastics ones often found in similar and more expensive designs. Somethings got to give. Thanks for watching.
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Its nice to see what a speakers magnet and basket assembly look like
Yes sir indeed 👍
Hey Man excellent video. Tons of pertinent and useful information. As you know I have a pair of the Aperion Audio V5B speakers in house for almost a year now. I am still amazed by how much tight punchy bass that I get from that 5 1/4 inch driver in a thirteen inch tall cabinet. I love the wire jumpers too. The gloss cherry finish is beautiful!
Awesome, thank you!
Bit embarrassed to admit I have 14 Aperion Audio speakers in my home. I made my 1st AA speaker purchase 15 years ago; 7.1 main cinema, 3.1 cinema and recently added pair of V6T Towers to provide an awesome 2 channel experience. Zero issues with reliability/build quality and their beautiful furniture grade cabinets has gone a long way with the “misses” support of my “hobby”.
That is what its all about. Nothing to be embarrassed about if you love it. Thank you for sharing your experience and watching!
I still have a pair of Polk LSiM 703's and they weigh almost 30 pounds! Very impressive build.
Those were neat speakers for sure. Thanks for watching.
Sure wish Aperion Audio would do Walnut finish..
Great review. Like much better than even most veteran so called reviewers!🤔😬 All info no fluff.🤓😎
Thank you kind sir.
Finally, the Aperion V8B compared against other $1500 competitors. Need some sound samples between the speakers (though I know this channel does not do that). Wish there were some REW plots to show the bass response of the V8B vs competitors
Yeah, it would be great it someone out there could to all that work for free...
@@2ChannelListening I'd be happy to do that for free if I had a youtube channel. Others do it and they don't get paid! Well, actually they do if their youtube channel has a lot of subscribers
Thank You, Jason. Yes still there's plenty of (depressing) trade-off to be considered in that price range. With the V8Bs it might be the the tweeter which may have it's problems with the "sshhhh" and lower "sch" phonemes, among many speaker competitiors. We will learn from you...
Whenever I bought bookshelf speakers in the past a pleasant surprise was when rather than pondering about subwoofers early I discovered a little headroom for attenuation (like -2dB) in the lower like 40 Hz bass department. Some - just some - will actually deliver on that!
Hecos are available as "open box new" items over and over again for less than 900 Euros here in Germany. - Heco among other brands from that conglomerate have a reputation for well engineered drivers but cheesy inner parts like damping mats and crossover components ever since. Traces of hardnened out hot glue are just everywhere, on and off the crossover. Wood screws will no longer engage with their MDF after slightest overtightening, be careful!😅 Keep them coming!
You pointed out something very key with the Heco that I have to belabor in the next video. As to say (depressing) I've never felt that critical about speakers in the $1,000 - $2,000 US range. So few have really stood out with above average build quality and components that I choose to be more excited when something like the Aperion V8B and Philharmonic BMR come along.
@@2ChannelListening I thought again... maybe too harsh that "depressing" term I used. Well I did too much of "sidegrading" in my early years within - but learned from it
Like all the info you put into your videos. After you finish your upgrade on the Heco's, why not send them to GR-Reach for evaluation and further advancements, it would be interesting to have both of your takes on this speaker.
That's a nice idea Sean.
I'm surprised that the crossed that at 2800 an 8 " starts beaming around 2000 maybe the tweeter doesn't get that low idk but everything else it looks really good for the money. It's a good looking speaker . Big woofers just can't be beat. Good video I like the way you dig into the speakers .
The only speaker that got a little unruly was the 7G on electric guitar, certainly jumps and bites in low mids. The V8B's were the flattest of the three, meaning most controlled and consistent, not dull.
Appreciate you watching and commenting, thank you.
How do the Aperion (as well as the others) sound at low to moderate volume levels? That's what I mainly listen at. Does the bass retain its qualities or is it a speaker that needs to be given lots of power before it reaches its performance levels? Also, how is imaging and stage depth?
I have had MA silver 100 6th in my room and while I liked it for the most part, it could sound a bit congested in the upper mods/highs at times. But bass, midbass and lower mids were nicely defined and punchy. It also had a very wide stage but it wasn't very deep.
No experience with Heco.
Sorry, I can answer more after the next video. I absolutely can answer this in detail then.
@@2ChannelListening OK.
Given your previous experience with various Ascend Acoustics speakers, I was curious if you had considered including their new Sierra LX speaker, which is right at the $1,500 target for this speaker comparison? It apparently has unbelievable bass (both extension and output) for a speaker of it's size.
Well, funny you should ask. I sent a note to Mr. Dave to see if we can work something out. I’ll make a post if I have a new entrant.
Nice review, thanks. @2ChannelListening how do you think v8b is in comparison to kef r3 meta?
Thank you Bob, I have yet to hear the new Meta's and could not offer a direct comparison.
Would love to know anyone's opinion of the Heco Celan 3 vs the Amphion Argon 1, since I think I've got it narrowed to those.
Never heard a pair of Amphion yet, couldn't comment.
I ask myself sometimes..can you buy any good speaker for under 2000 euros. I have the money but just cant find that speaker that gives me that wow factor.
What do Revival Atalante 3 cost in your neck of the woods? What about the latest KEF R3 Meta? The Heco's are dirt cheap over there...
I loved the video, but I couldn't find part 2 of this video. Did Aperion win❓ I also wish you would have shown the woofer since you removed it from the speaker anyways. 👍
Will the Aperions fill up a 20 x 25 ft room ? I have dual subs
You have a pretty big room for stand mounts, certainly dual subs make a big difference for room filling bass. How far back are you sitting?
@@2ChannelListening set up is facing along the wider part of the room ( it’s not a dedicated audio room) . My floor standers currently are about 5 feet away from the front wall (but i move them back against the front wall after each listening session) and about 7. 5 feet apart and my chair is about 8.5 feet away . I tried the Triangle Bro 3 before , it was great with jazz and vocals but with rock , it just was not resolving enough , was “messy”. I’ve been looking for big bookshelves on a budget ever since .
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Thanks
How would the Philharmonic BMR compare to these?
Hard to give this a legit comparison since the space is completely different as are the electronics. The Aperions are darn good, I mean really terrific for $1,500, especially such robust well defined bass. The BMR's will play a bit more neutral and flatter, yet I still love the air of the ribbon tweeter so I would nod upper level information and presentation to the BMR. I have yet to hear stronger, fuller bass from a stand mount than the Aperion V8B.
So they’re good subwoofers.
8 inch woofer beams very narrow around 2.8kHz
The Aperion V8B was as clean and composed as I've heard compared to the 7G.
Hmmm. I like cheese. Cheesy absorbant pads, and cheesy x-over. Yum! But wait, no ferrous speaker posts? Aw, c'mon, Aperion! Could be a deal breaker! 😂🤣 Thanks fer the review! 🍺
Strange as the Heco placed first in a previous review compared with Focal, SVS, Dali, Monitor Audio among others. As a budget speaker, I found it strange Heco placed as well as it did in comparison to the others. Well, all the others are still within the budget range as well.
For me, the Heco Celan had a low threshold that really surprised me. My simple cheap hack went a long way to address the issue I found. More to come.
@@2ChannelListening Wish the wood veneer was available in the States for the Heco. Gloss black just too much. Though the black ash on the MA is really nice.
@@nc3419 Yes, its a pain to keep touching up the Heco. Looks great, but shows everything.
It pains me to see cardboard tubes in any speaker that expensive
Certainly one of the very few areas of non detrimental cost cutting. I will say its density is less prone to ringing versus the cheap plastics ones often found in similar and more expensive designs. Somethings got to give. Thanks for watching.
@@2ChannelListeningyou know I never thought about that but that's a great point about the ringing
I don't care for high gloss veneer. Prefer natural just like the sound.
Fair enough
Is that a cardboard bass port in the Aperion? Talk about cheap crap.
Always leading with a positive - in my experience, hardened cardboard bass tubes do not ring like some plastic ones I've tested.
Shhh, another talking head. Less talk , TH-cam or not sound clip would be appreciated
Thanks for handing out free advice with zero vested interest. 😊👍
Great job 👍 looks like it would be a Mofi SP10 killer!
Oh I don't know about MoFi SP10 killer, but it does stand up against my C7ES3 very well. Thanks JLO.
I stopped chasing trim once I got married. 😅
Ha ha, good one.
@@2ChannelListening keep up the good work. I'm really enjoying your channel.