I fully get where you’re coming from. Like you I started on Seiko’s , the moved onto San Martins with seiko movements and then into the micro brands of Zelos and Traska. But I still felt I wanted a Swiss made watch. So this year I picked up a Longines Spirit 37mm for 30% off retail. It’s a great watch, but comparing the fit and finish of the Longines (entry level Swiss) to my Traska Summiteer, there’s not 4 times the quality. So I too think you’re buying into the whole, it must be better, as I spent more ?. That said, my grail watch would be a blue dial Rolex OP 36mm. It all comes down to what you’re happy to spend 😄
It's hard to justify when some microbrands are putting out such good stuff, the only time i spent big ( for me) was on a Ollech&wajs c-1000 and ive never regretted it for a second. Achingly cool. The san martin tudor homage would do me fine, cheers.
Being new to watch collecting, I think this is a great option on how to enjoy watches without breaking the bank. I love to get a Grand Seiko someday, but I currently have $500 and less watches that work just fine. I also like the microbrand where you get good quality watches under $1000.
I found a 2023 Black Bay 36 for $3000 new; what I felt was an unbelievable find! It was the anthracite dial and I thought maybe this would be the attainable Explorer that I had wanted. Unfortunately, that was incorrect. Eventually I found an Explorer 124270 for a reasonable price, bought it, and the BB36 has just been hanging out in the watch box ever since. Expensive lesson learned as I will likely move on from the Tudor. And that’s not to say Tudor doesn’t make terrific watches. I’ve got a BB58 that 100% holds its own next to the Explorer. And I have a 1926 that I LOVE! But in the case of the BB36, I’ll take a pass on it
I own the 41mm version of this watch and the 5 link bracelet on it is the most comfortable bracelet I’ve ever owned, including 3 Rolex watches. I wear it a lot and plan to buy the champagne dial 41mm eventually. I will continue to collect Tudors. Totally happy with all of mine.
@@thehumblehorologist6091 I wasn’t sure about it until I wore it for a few days. Now’s it one of my favorite watches to wear. It took a while to get used to the size as well because I’d been mostly wearing 39mm’s at get time.
The new Tudor blackbay with the kenissi movement has to be made in this style. It is somewhat reminiscent of the Rolex of the 1980s. if they do too much with the Style then the general public will be made more aware that there is very little difference now between Tudor and Rolex. this is a big problem when it comes to Steele watches from certain manufacturers, omega do not really have this problem because they maintain a consistency. but in order to continue with Tudor it was always going to be a problem for Rolex in that they can’t get to a situation where people say there is almost no difference . the decision of the swatch group to make their movements more or less exclusive left of variety of companies with difficult choices.
This reminds me of when I went to the Omega boutique and tried on a Seamaster 300 for the first time. Very strong "meh" and the thought of paying $6k for it seemed silly. Love my Carerra chrono (used for $2800) but started to wonder how much I really wanted another luxury watch and instead should just enjoy the 4R Seikos and microbrand (Nodus) I already had. EDIT: As a motorcyclist who loves Japanese standards, +1 to buying an homage watch with a Seiko movement and getting a new bike instead hahaha
I never got on with my BB Heritage 41mm. Sold it at a loss after 2 years. So-called chronometer time keeping wasn't anything special, the bracelet was always either too tight or too loose and that particular model was way too top heavy. This guy is right, San Martins are just as good for a fraction of the cost. I won't be buying a 'luxury' watch again anytime soon.
I swear, the same thing happened to me when I picked up a BB in a store and was like ... huh? It was underwhelming, despite all the YT's applauding it. Now, I did put on the BB Chrono and that was a handsome, quality feeling piece, but that's where I stopped. I ended up with a 300M Aquaracer which I'm sure everyone will flip their lids over because of the name Tag Heuer.
Had the exact same disappointing experience recently when I went to a Breitling store and tried on a navitimer. Unbelievable. I prefer my Zelos and Pagani bracelets, which is absolutely insane. But good thing I like motorcycles and steak dinners. Lol
Designing a great watch is difficult. Stealing someone else’s design that took many years to perfect and market then building it with cheaper labor and parts is easy. Then they use search engines to get your attention with cheaper prices. To me it’s no different than a fake.
@@thehumblehorologist6091 I do agree with the premise of the video and that sometimes hyped up watches can disappoint. There are tons of great options at lower prices that have original designs and aren't homages
You aren't spending 4k for the bracelet. I wasn't happy with the bracelet that came with my BB58 so I got a jubilee from Uncle Seiko and put it on there and I couldn't be happier.
When the snobs stick up their nose to San Martin simply because it’s made in China, I call them fake watch enthusiasts and real racists. Tudor is already one of the better brands from Switzerland. I owned an Oris. I was so surprised by how poorly made the watch was considering the cost of it. If you spend over $100 on a Chinese made watch, you can hardly find anything worse than Oris. The Selita movement they put inside the Oris is not even regulated. The strap split within a week of the use. The bezel is more loose than a Pagani Design. That Oris is called entry level luxury? It’s plain robbery. But snobs still gonna buy them and laugh at the better quality homage watches.
@@thehumblehorologist6091 Yea. I’m talking about Bronze 65. Stay away from it. The bezel is bad. The strap is even worse. The movement is unfinished and unregulated. You are better off with San Martin even if they charge the same price
You should not have been in this hobby. It is your money, you can decide where you are going to spend. But if you love San Martin, then you can never appreciate these watches. You should look for some cheaper hobbies!!!
Thanks for stopping by and contributing to the discussion. However, I might be interpreting your comment wrong, but it comes across as a bit elitist. One doesn’t have to spend a relative fortune on watches to be considered “in the hobby,” do they?
I fully get where you’re coming from. Like you I started on Seiko’s , the moved onto San Martins with seiko movements and then into the micro brands of Zelos and Traska. But I still felt I wanted a Swiss made watch. So this year I picked up a Longines Spirit 37mm for 30% off retail. It’s a great watch, but comparing the fit and finish of the Longines (entry level Swiss) to my Traska Summiteer, there’s not 4 times the quality. So I too think you’re buying into the whole, it must be better, as I spent more ?. That said, my grail watch would be a blue dial Rolex OP 36mm. It all comes down to what you’re happy to spend 😄
Thanks for sharing :-)
And that is why i went with a Grand Seiko , straight up Quality Japanese Craftsmanship
For sure
It's hard to justify when some microbrands are putting out such good stuff, the only time i spent big ( for me) was on a Ollech&wajs c-1000 and ive never regretted it for a second. Achingly cool. The san martin tudor homage would do me fine, cheers.
Being new to watch collecting, I think this is a great option on how to enjoy watches without breaking the bank. I love to get a Grand Seiko someday, but I currently have $500 and less watches that work just fine. I also like the microbrand where you get good quality watches under $1000.
Welcome to the hobby!
K
I got my first generation Black Bay 36 for $1800. At that price, i was happy, but 4K for the new model is wild.
I have seen good looking pre-owned BB41’s going for between $1,500 - $2,000. If I ever, that will be the route I take.
I found a 2023 Black Bay 36 for $3000 new; what I felt was an unbelievable find! It was the anthracite dial and I thought maybe this would be the attainable Explorer that I had wanted.
Unfortunately, that was incorrect. Eventually I found an Explorer 124270 for a reasonable price, bought it, and the BB36 has just been hanging out in the watch box ever since.
Expensive lesson learned as I will likely move on from the Tudor. And that’s not to say Tudor doesn’t make terrific watches. I’ve got a BB58 that 100% holds its own next to the Explorer. And I have a 1926 that I LOVE!
But in the case of the BB36, I’ll take a pass on it
Thanks for sharing. Enjoy that Explorer!
When buying luxury watches, you’re paying for a name, not a watch
You’re not wrong.
I own the 41mm version of this watch and the 5 link bracelet on it is the most comfortable bracelet I’ve ever owned, including 3 Rolex watches. I wear it a lot and plan to buy the champagne dial 41mm eventually. I will continue to collect Tudors. Totally happy with all of mine.
Maybe I examined a dud. Glad you’re happy with yours :-)
@@thehumblehorologist6091 I wasn’t sure about it until I wore it for a few days. Now’s it one of my favorite watches to wear. It took a while to get used to the size as well because I’d been mostly wearing 39mm’s at get time.
The new Tudor blackbay with the kenissi movement has to be made in this style. It is somewhat reminiscent of the Rolex of the 1980s. if they do too much with the Style then the general public will be made more aware that there is very little difference now between Tudor and Rolex. this is a big problem when it comes to Steele watches from certain manufacturers, omega do not really have this problem because they maintain a consistency. but in order to continue with Tudor it was always going to be a problem for Rolex in that they can’t get to a situation where people say there is almost no difference . the decision of the swatch group to make their movements more or less exclusive left of variety of companies with difficult choices.
Thanks for the info :-)
This reminds me of when I went to the Omega boutique and tried on a Seamaster 300 for the first time. Very strong "meh" and the thought of paying $6k for it seemed silly. Love my Carerra chrono (used for $2800) but started to wonder how much I really wanted another luxury watch and instead should just enjoy the 4R Seikos and microbrand (Nodus) I already had.
EDIT: As a motorcyclist who loves Japanese standards, +1 to buying an homage watch with a Seiko movement and getting a new bike instead hahaha
I never got on with my BB Heritage 41mm. Sold it at a loss after 2 years. So-called chronometer time keeping wasn't anything special, the bracelet was always either too tight or too loose and that particular model was way too top heavy. This guy is right, San Martins are just as good for a fraction of the cost. I won't be buying a 'luxury' watch again anytime soon.
Thanks for sharing :-)
Haha, love your humor!
I swear, the same thing happened to me when I picked up a BB in a store and was like ... huh? It was underwhelming, despite all the YT's applauding it. Now, I did put on the BB Chrono and that was a handsome, quality feeling piece, but that's where I stopped.
I ended up with a 300M Aquaracer which I'm sure everyone will flip their lids over because of the name Tag Heuer.
Seeee! That’s what I’m talking about! I appreciate finely crafted timepieces, but not ones that overall feel no better than a Chinese copy.
Had the exact same disappointing experience recently when I went to a Breitling store and tried on a navitimer. Unbelievable. I prefer my Zelos and Pagani bracelets, which is absolutely insane. But good thing I like motorcycles and steak dinners. Lol
LOL, I guess so 😁
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT THIS!!!!!
Congrats, you'll save a lot of money now.
Maybe. Have you seen the price of some Casios?
Shout out from Cookeville.
Howdie!
Designing a great watch is difficult. Stealing someone else’s design that took many years to perfect and market then building it with cheaper labor and parts is easy. Then they use search engines to get your attention with cheaper prices. To me it’s no different than a fake.
Fair enough. It’s a hotly debated issue.
@@thehumblehorologist6091 I do agree with the premise of the video and that sometimes hyped up watches can disappoint. There are tons of great options at lower prices that have original designs and aren't homages
@@carlos6860 Agree
You aren't spending 4k for the bracelet. I wasn't happy with the bracelet that came with my BB58 so I got a jubilee from Uncle Seiko and put it on there and I couldn't be happier.
All’s well that ends well, I suppose. Glad you’re happy with yours.
I think you are supposed to be raptured by the history and horological presence of Tudor. You weren’t really supposed to look at it closely. lol
That’s it.
I always buy used
Definitely the smartest thing to do when on a budget.
When the snobs stick up their nose to San Martin simply because it’s made in China, I call them fake watch enthusiasts and real racists.
Tudor is already one of the better brands from Switzerland. I owned an Oris. I was so surprised by how poorly made the watch was considering the cost of it. If you spend over $100 on a Chinese made watch, you can hardly find anything worse than Oris. The Selita movement they put inside the Oris is not even regulated. The strap split within a week of the use. The bezel is more loose than a Pagani Design. That Oris is called entry level luxury? It’s plain robbery. But snobs still gonna buy them and laugh at the better quality homage watches.
I don’t know if I should like your comment or not! I’ve always wanted an Oris 65 😧 I’d better look closer, huh?
@@thehumblehorologist6091 Yea. I’m talking about Bronze 65. Stay away from it. The bezel is bad. The strap is even worse. The movement is unfinished and unregulated. You are better off with San Martin even if they charge the same price
You should not have been in this hobby. It is your money, you can decide where you are going to spend. But if you love San Martin, then you can never appreciate these watches. You should look for some cheaper hobbies!!!
Thanks for stopping by and contributing to the discussion. However, I might be interpreting your comment wrong, but it comes across as a bit elitist. One doesn’t have to spend a relative fortune on watches to be considered “in the hobby,” do they?