3 UPDATES: My Stepdad Got Me A Wall Clock For My Room On My Birthday, But I Immediately Threw It....
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- 3 UPDATES: My Stepdad Got Me A Wall Clock For My Room On My Birthday, But I Immediately Threw It Away In The Trash, Which Made My Mom Slap Me, So I Said: "Do You Even Know Where He Got This From?"...Both Of Them Are Bombarding My Phone With Apologies Now
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I don't even know where to start with this one. It's been a whirlwind of a day, and I feel like I'm stuck in a nightmare. Let me give you the rundown.
I (18F) live with my mom and my stepdad Josh. My mom married Josh 6 months ago after a horrible divorce with my dad. I’m not getting into the details but my dad had an affair with someone and got caught in the “act”. It was awful, it was messy and I am not in contact with him anymore and neither is my mom. So now about Josh. J
Honestly not sure how OP could forgive her mother for the slap and for the adults instantly blaming her and not being willing to listen to her from the start.
I don’t know if I could forgive the slap either. I would’ve most likely forgiven them but I don’t think I would’ve moved back in with them.
Same here. It will never be quite the same for op.
She could have told her mother right away why.. her mom was angry because she honestly didn't know why she threw away the gift.
@@KendraRaine-ly2xd Right?! OP acted like a dumb histerical kid and then wants to be treated like an adult.
Some of you really like to hold on to a grudge forever
"Never forgive a slap "
Sure ..What's next 'never forgive because they called me a brat when I was 6' 'never forgive for not giving me a new car for my birthday'
The mother had NEVER done this before but sure "one strike and you are out, I guess" ?
So you should be ok with 'the mother never for giving her for throwing a present away" /s?
Peter was smart enough to wait until OP hit 18 before sending the perv gift. If not, he'd actually have spent time in jail.
Should have spent time in jail regardless. Gifts like that should only be given if you and the other person is into it and you both consent to it.
It is illegal to secret video record something for the purposes of sexual satisfaction. Both parties have to consent. Too much revenge porn and 'studs' showing off their conquests.
I thought Josh got it?
The mom's behavior was very violent and strange. Why such an overreaction for a tossed gift?
So you would NOT feel offended if someone you CARED about, would throw your birthday gift in the trash w/o an explanation?
Sure ..I bet most ppl would disagree with you!
@@robertx8020 If my son had done that with a gift I'd question why, not scream at him and a sh*t fit. The mom is really off.
@@ruthsaunders9507 I get it, you're perfect
My child would just tell me why he/she threw a present away before or right after doing so
Not throwing it away and then went back to bed
@@robertx8020 If my child did it, it would be very odd and I'd really want to know why. Don't see what good a screaming fit would do. Mom's reaction seems very over the top.
@@robertx8020 perfect. That's a normal reaction to ask why. Maybe what are you doing first but still.
Honestly the mom was trash, she didn't waste a second to choose a man over her daughter. That slap was really violent for just throwing a clock in the trash.
Yep, charge mom with domestic battery.
at least in the uk the mother would have been taken to the police station and charged with GBH, i was once arrested because someone claimed i attacked her verbally, imagine if i had touched her, also her own witness defended me by telling the cops i never did it..
Good for her pressing charges.
I get very angry at victims of certain crimes especially "intimate" crimes who do not press criminal charges because by leaving their attacker free to go after other people I consider them morally indirectly responsible for the future victims.
@@Zurround I agree 100%. But I can understand a little as to the why because there is so much trauma in reliving the abuse. Also, many time victims are attacked by the defense attorneys trying to say that you weren't victimized, and lastly the police don't really follow through these cases the way they should. Many cities have backlogs of rape kits. I was sa'ed as a child. If I felt protected and believed, I would have pressed charges against him. I ended up setting up a memory block to protect myself from the pain. Anyway, my point is I understand the hurt and violation. But I would fight tooth and nail to make sure that no one else was hurt by my father.
@@Zurroundthe problem is that our society is trying to make sexual crimes a victimless thing.
They'll punish the victim to the point where they let the predator go free. Until the predator goes after more people. Then, they actually want to do something.
As a person who was sa'ed as a child, I can only imagine the terror that the girl felt. The invasion of privacy and specifically what images the clock would record.
And then to be woken up by her mom yelling at her and then slapping her. Yeah no even as someone who hasn’t dealt with situations like that even I can see it making someone in that situation spiral downward
Can relate. I honestly hope this girl goes no contact with the mom give she automatically chose a man over her own kid
A pink strawberry clockis something that feels like a gift for a little girl. That is the most unsettling thing.
U didn’t listen when she mentioned her entire room is pink and has strawberry details. The clock was in sync with the theme of her room decor
@@kanikagaral7637 Yes this is a good gift for OP but it is also a good gift for any girl under the age of 12. I was more commenting on all the little girls that are getting this for their bedroom. That is the most unsettling part for me, not that she got it but the target audience of the gift getting it.
@@theresaderse-nosacek5236 oh yeah I got ur point now. That’s creepy I agree
I dont believe her Mom and Josh after her Moms reaction. They just let Peter take the fall.i would never trust either of them again.
Agreed. They did not have her back when she needed the most and even physicly attacked her. What say they will not do again if something else comes up? Loyalty test failed
Yeah. The mom was awfully quick with that slap.
"I dont believe her Mom and Josh after her Moms reaction. They just let Peter take the fall.i would never trust either of them again."
So the police was in it too?
Peter admitted but was innocent?
Wow ..let me guess ..We never went to the moon either, right? /s
@@robertx8020seriously like everyone in this comment section is missing a brain
@@robertx8020I don't think you will ever satisfy everyone on this one, OP just waited too long to go to the cops. Yes she is undoubtedly the victim in this, but because of the length of time and the fact the parents had several days before they were confronted by her before speaking to the police, looking at it after the fact makes it look like a suspect situation, even though the other guy plead guilty and said OP's parents had no knowledge of him trying to film OP. The whole slap thing when there was no history of physically disciplining her kids, when the mother doesn't allow OP to explain why she did what she did... seems really suspect. Was this just bad parenting, or were they trying to coverup and gaslight OP. I hope it was just bad parenting.
Take the clock to the police. They can figure oit where the video from the clock is being sent to. File charges!!
Brilliant idea!
Honestly, I have a lot of questions/suspicions.
1. Mom’s reaction was completely over the top. While I get the hurt and anger, how could she not wait for an explanation over an act that that seems out of the norm for a OP. Something had to have already been brewing in that household, perhaps even earlier suspicions of stepdad’s behavior.
2. Why the hell did the stepdad wait to present his gift before bedtime? Especially when there was a surprise party with public gift opening? His gift should have been the lead-up before the concert tickets, and he could’ve given a heartwarming speech as to why he wanted something of his own.
3. There is no guarantee that stepdad and Peter were not in it together. The texts just refer to generic talk of a gift without details of planning. Who’s to say there was not a financial agreement for Peter to take the fall, especially considering he barely served time.
Obviously, we’re only getting part of the story but overall there seems to be deeper issues at hand.
Was the mom even gonna get an explanation cause it looked like op threw the clock away without saying anything and then lounged around waiting for her mother to react to it being in the garbage like it was discarded for being a cheap knock off.
There was like literally no logical fkn common sense reason to lounge around and wait until her mother found it first as if she was rage baiting a disrespected reaction from her mom to then be like, "oh I gas light you into screaming at me and defending him cause you precieved that I called him cheap so now I have a rational justified reason not to tell you a damn thing."
OP is a lot more forgiving to the mom than I would be in her shoes. If either of my parents slapped me that way, I'd still be living in my friends house.
Especially since op was probably feeling a bunch of emotions after finding out her new clock had a camera in it plus being woken up suddenly to her mom screaming at her
I grew up being slapped around by my parents. When I turned 18, I got into a fight with my stepdad and he threatened to slap me. I told him that since I am now 18, I am an adult which would make that ASSULT which would make that ILLEGAL. This man who never worked a day in law enforcement tried to say that because I lived with them (since I was STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL) the cops would take ME away an not him. So told him “alright, wanna bet? Slap me so I can call the cops and we’ll see who they take away.” I guess he wasn’t expecting that because he kind of had a brain malfunction before walking away lol never got slapped or threatened with a slap after that from him or my mom. My grandpa did once because I cursed in front of him, but I whipped around, stuck my finger in his face, and told him if he ever hit me again I would smack him back twice as hard. When you start firing back with consequences, the narcissists realize they game is over.
I'd call the cops and let them sort out the whole mess. OP now knows her mom will protect Josh over her. Anything they say will be suspect.
BS
Seriously, that slap was so unnecessary. Even if everything mom thought was the truth.
The camera clock would have cost a lot more than a simple one, they definitely aren't cheap. Didn't the stepfather ask why so expensive?
Probably not, but since strawberries are somewhat of a trend, items with strawberries on them can be pretty pricy. Plus, good-quality, pretty looking wall clocks generally aren't cheap either. Plus, a camera these days isn't necessarily all that expensive anymore, so the price of that clock might not have been suspiciously high.
definitely shocking, I would've taken that clock to the police if I was her. Creepy as all get out.
The mom shouldnt be trusted anymore. Like, you slapped your daughter and didnt even let her explain. Just started yelling at her like she didnt even want an explanation. Disgusting behavior
If Peter bought the clock, why was Josh so extremely upset that OP disposed of it? Why not ask why before getting so extremely offended?
Josh cares more about being disrepected, and ignores the lack of effort (disrepect) he put into buying a suspect gift
Because ppl get offended when others throw away their gift w/o a good reason?
Not that hard to find out!
"Why not ask why before getting so extremely offended?"|
Because the FIRST thought of most ppl would not be "there must be a camera in it " but "HOW FFF-ING RUDE"
And why didn't OP say something to her mother BEFORE or just after she threw it out?
@@robertx8020 OP didn't tell her mother because she found the camera in the clock after midnight and knew her mother was probably asleep. Then Mom burst into OP's room before she got out of bed and started screaming at her before OP could explain. Are you actually suggesting that OP keep the camera in her *BEDROOM* until after she explained to Mom?
My parents were super strict, but they would have never reacted the way OP's parents did. My Mom even slapped me a couple of times. Would they have been hurt if I threw away a gift they got foe me? Definitely. Would they have started screaming, calling me an 'ungrateful brat' and slap me before before I had a chance to explain - absolutely not.
@@jo2lovid Exactly.
@@Schweighsr "OP didn't tell her mother because she found the camera in the clock after midnight and knew her mother was probably asleep."
Assumption 1
Did she check?
Do you know if she did?
If I would be in her place I would have woken her up!
(And keep the clock as EVIDENCE)
And before you say "but there was a camera" yes, so put in in a closet or something
" Then Mom burst into OP's room before she got out of bed and started screaming at her before OP could explain."
Yes because she threw a present away w/o any good reason (from mom's POV_)
AND!!! then accuse her SD for being a p*do!
Do you know what such a accusation can do to a man, his life? his career?? It will all be over, guilthy or not!
"Are you actually suggesting that OP keep the camera in her BEDROOM until after she explained to Mom?"
Yes but since you lack any imagination, OBVIOUSLY not out in the open..lot's of place you can put it out of 'harms way' w/o throwing it in the bin!
"My parents were super strict, but they would have never reacted the way OP's parents did."
You don't know that unless you were in the same situation
And I feel sorry for you parents if they would be cool for you calling your dad a 'creepy p*de'
" My Mom even slapped me a couple of times."
According to some ppl here you should NEVER EVER IN A MILLION YEARS have forgiven her and I bet some would even call you a coward
" Would they have been hurt if I threw away a gift they got foe me? Definitely. "
Like any normal person would
"| Would they have started screaming, calling me an 'ungrateful brat' and slap me before before I had a chance to explain - absolutely not."
Assumption Unless you have been in the same situation
I hope not
So you are saying that your mother DID 'abuse you' but never shouted at you ..I think I take the shouting over the beating part
Nope! Mom and stepdad are untrustworthy and violent. Run!
So are you!
Run where, to you?? Hope she doesn't follow reddit fools who want her to destroy a relationship of many years over one mistake made due to her not first talking to her mum, before throwing the gift. If someone throws a gift away without explanation - reaction would be extreme. She should have told the mum something is wrong with the clock, set it aside and checked. She shouldn't have started name callings, she judged the step dad very first. Hope you mean she should go NC & also rely on herself completely. Truly we are raising entitles people who are imperfect but expect perfection from others.
She also didn't handle this well.
Her overreaction resulted in her throwing her own mother's gifts.
@@Kasasi0322 TY
I'm glad at least someone understands
Tbh Reddit is all about extremes
You partner gave you the wrong type of coffee? DIVORCE HIM
Your parent didn't want you to have a cookie? CALL CPS
You parent called you out on your behavior? And oh noooo, slapped you ONES because you called your father and her husband a 'p*do' ????
You mom should be in jail for life /s
Just run and NEVER FORGIVE THEM
Yeah right!
Not only should OP go full NO CONTACT with her mother and stepfather, she should also move to another state to start her life afresh.
@@danacarter9147 You are free to do so ..I don't feel your parents would mind
I hope OP has more sense
OP should have took Amy's advice and gone to the cops bringing everything with her and let them sort it out. Instead she gave the criminals the chance to get rid of the evidence to protect Josh. I think both Josh and Peter were involved together and Josh threw Peter under the bus. The reactions of Josh and the mother suggest that Josh was actually involved. This part concerns me, ""we should go to the police about this, we have enough proof to make sure Josh doesn't get caught up in the middle of the investigation". WTF, he was already invoked in this the gift came from him.
If it was Josh I don't think he would have been insulted by the clock being thrown out, he would be concerned. Tip toeing around her quietly, trying to figure out if she knew. He would be showing signs of guilt and worry not anger.
OP should have retrieved the clock and taken it to the Police immediately.
How was Peter going to access the memory card? This is too fishy.
Some of them have WiFi.
@@mbyerly9680 but then he’d have to set it up for the wifi and be close enough to get the video. Peter would have to come by the house regularly. It sounds like they work in an office, not remotely. And it would have to get new batteries pretty often. Wall clocks aren’t typically plugged in.
Most nanny-cams nowadays are remote and have the option to livestream and/or record. Having cameras in stuffed animals is creepy due to the implications of pedophiles, but they are also used by parents to keep an eye on caregivers.
@@PeppermintPlatypus but don’t they still need a wifi network to broadcast through? Unless they have mobile data I guess?
@@peach_cobbler as the personal assistant, he may already know how to access the network. (I knew everything about my boss.) Another possibility, which I mentioned in another comment, is that the stepdad could have been involved along with Peter.
.....so op took all the evidence and threw it away? Brilliant.
No, she put it in a trash bag but didn't throw it away yet
@@eloradelavallee3481 She hauled it out to the garbage cans. That's where Josh found it.
She has the photos
Josh was going to take the trash out and saw the clock. It was taken out.
@@gwolfstahlyeah because that's a better physical evidence.
This was poorly handled by everyone. Op watches a lot of crime shows but she didn’t keep the clock as evidence since she was going to accuse Josh as a pedo. Her mom shouldn’t have called her names and OP should have still took the time to explain what happened. Instead she lashed out and never got to explain herself. In the end she keeps insisting Josh is a pedo which is a serious accusation and not show proof. Mom slaps her and the situation ends up with many misunderstandings.
I wouldn't trust this family. OP should have stayed with her friend.
Why?
The slap. Physical violence is never excusable. So what if Josh is innocent, OP’s mother destroyed their relationship forever
The mom has to work really hard to earn OPs trust again bc she has shown that Josh is more important to her. Why not sit calmly and discuss things in a civil manner? Nope they both failed her and just to be petty, I’d go stay w/ dad for a bit.
She actually did not. OP called Josh a ped with no evidence. And it's happening a lot lately.
@@dja3456he gave her a gift that had a camera in it. What do you mean no evidence. Then instead of everyone talking to each other, which they did later to massive success, mom just started yelling, slapped her daughter and didn't really give op a chance to explain herself. Heck dude fully understood why she did and plus op apologized to him. Police were never called on him, she didn't post online about him doing that. She got a gift from him, found a hidden camera and came to a logical conclusion then changed that opinion after she got more evidence and everyone sat down and talked about it.
@@Allmightyimortalwould have been better if the mom had waited even half a minute longer so op could explain a little bit
@@dja3456no evidence? Your child tells you that your spouse is a pedo, you freaking listen.
@@dja3456the hidden camera in the present that Josh gave her is pretty damning evidence. Or did you conveniently forget where the camera was und who's present it was or that it was given to the OP last as she's going into her bedroom.
Amy is the GOAT. The real hero of the story.
I hope everyone involved throws her a great birthday party!
What is horrifying is this used to be legal.
Many, many people were spied on with cameras.
And as long as there was no sound and just video, it was not illegal.
It took years for the law to catch up.
Glad it finally is.
GOAT?!?
Story 1: OP Needs to contact her father because I'm positive hisbwas revenge affair or something similar.
My mother slapped me as an adult (for saying no to a demand) and I haven’t forgiven her. And she knows it.
OP is VERY forgiving for the mother’s ridiculous and violent reaction. I’m glad OP got it sorted tho. I’m just angry at the disgusting lack of a real sentence for literally being a digital peeping tom 🤮
Of course this story would show up in my feed after being in an online argument with a guy arguing the legality of putting hidden cameras in the toilet bowls of his house is.
What the hell country is this in ? They didn’t convict him of sexual stalking and assault. If this is a real story, doubts, he would have been convicted and put in jail, unless he was in a country, or USA, red state.
How disgusting is this place! What kind of person either makes up a story like this to get attention, or place that does nothing to protect their people. Sick in the worst way either way.
How do parents not know their own children? Like if my daughter did this, my first reaction would be what is wrong? Because I know my daughter and know she would have a.damn good reason to throw it away. Just like the other way around, if someone accused your child of being a bully or stealing, you know your child and know if they could have sticky fingers, or an attitude problem.
ops an idiot to trust her SD, that text exchange was vague an more than ambiguous enough to implicate OP's SD
I agree with you 💯%, she's way too naive.
It’s natural to want to give the parent the benefit of the doubt. Though she doesn’t see him as a full dad yet, she still was raised long enough with him to obviously see him as an important figure in her life.
Exactly what I commented too. I rolled my eyes and got annoyed when she said she trusts her SD. The texts were too fucking vague... for all we know they couldve have the convo in person abt getting a "cam item" and only confirmed the type of cam gift via texts hence her SD said ok get it and send me the invoice. Lol too naive it annoys me.
Op mom needs to tell her daughter sorry for slapping her and Peter needs to lock up for life
Maybe watch the video to the end?
This is what happened
@@robertx8020 You cannot lock a person up for life for a MISDEMEANOR. You can only do that for a FELONY. His "life sentence" will be having to be on a "registry".
You cannot get a life sentence for a misdemeanor, only for a felony and he was convicted of a misdemeanor. His "life" sentence will be having to be on a "registry".
@@Zurround Well, tbh he said 'needs to be', he is not saying this is according to the law ..while I do agree with you on the law part
@@robertx8020 Its why we have a "registry" for certain types of crimes. Its too expensive to keep locking people up for life.
Still watching the video and at the point where the parents are blaming 'Peter', but it seems weird to me that Josh knew that the clock was in the bin at 7am in the morning, or even earlier, given that's when the Mother woke OP to confront her about the clock being in the bin, which means maybe Josh was aware of the clock's altered position at least 15 minutes before that, which accounts for him then telling his wife and her deciding to confront her daughter about it. Why didn't the mother question how Josh knew the status of the clock? It is normal for Josh to just 'check up' on his stepdaughter by opening her bedroom door while she's still asleep? Of course, the most likely explanation is that it is still Josh, not Peter, who is responsible for the clock, and he knew about the clock's location in the bin, because he check the spy camera and figured out that it had been removed.
Also, surveillance devices like spy cameras require a decent consistent power draw, unless they have constant mains power connection. And it would also have to have a wireless transmitter for anyone to access a real time visual stream. There's nothing on the market, even in the professional level hardware that could have a battery that could power an always on camera feed of any decent quality, for more than a few days, or maybe a week or two at most, depending on the size of the clock. Even then, they couldn't fill all the space in a large clock with battery, because anyone handling it would immediately notice the excessive weight. As for the wireless component to broadcast captured video data to a receiver, even a really good one doesn't have a range larger than a typical yard size for a house. So with all that in mind, what was 'Peter' going to do when the battery ran out? And how was he going to capture the wireless stream? By parking in their driveway or in front of their curb and hoping they didn't notice.
He saw the clock in the rubbish bag when he was taking it out. However don’t know about the tech I really hope it wasn’t Josh especially as op now thinks he not a threat
@@nikkismith2858 He noticed the clock in the bin at 6:45am? Why would he be opening his stepdaughter's bedroom door at 6:45am? Just that sounds a bit creepy to me. As for the spy tech, it's not an area I am intimately familiar with, but information technology is my professional field, so I am pretty clued-up with camera technology, networking and transmission aspects, and battery limits.
Really though, it doesn't take much to figure all this out even for the moderately tech-savvy person. Mobile phone companies would sacrifice their firstborn children for a light weight, battery that could run a modestly powerful phone for more than 3 days between charges, as that would be a game changer technology in the industry, so it makes no sense that somehow the spy camera industry has access to a revolutionary light battery that can run for a protracted period to power a camera / clock that takes and streams real time high definition video.
As for the wireless industry, the issue isn't just a limit of the current technology to broadcast further than a certain range (currently about the size of a mid-house yard), it's a legal barrier, too. There are pretty solid legal limits to punching out high-powered (and therefore longer throw) wireless broadcasts, as they can actually interfere with other devices that communicate within the frequency, and without strict legal mandates that companies have to adhere to, a device like this could potentially overlap, something like a local medical device.
It seems like the story wrapped up with the offending party having been investigated and caught by the police, but it just seems weird to me, as it doesn't make sense how the guy would have dealt with the numerous limits and issues that seem obvious to me.
Maybe he just didn't think about it, or care. He was hoping random luck and good timing would net him a few scraps of short bedtime nudie teen video, before the battery died, if he parked right outside at the curb at the right time in the evening?
@@nikkismith2858 - He must have been taking the trash out at 6:45am in the morning then. If you listen to the story, the daughter got woken up at 7am the following morning after she trashed the clock late during the preceding night. Her mother, yelling at her about the clock and her being a spoiled brat, was what woke her up, so given that, the stepfather must have somehow seen the state of the clock sometime before 7am, and had enough time to complain to Mother dearest, which then caused her to go hulk on her sleeping daughter. Given all that, I think it's still pretty fricking weird for the stepfather to be prowling around in his stepdaughter's bedroom in the early morning before she's awake.
OP put the clock in a trash bag specifically so that it couldn't be used to see her, so step daddy, wouldn't simply have been able to open her bedroom door and know at a glance that the obscured clock was in the bin, he just would have seen that it wasn't immediately visible, but he told his wife where it was, because when she screamed at her daughter about it, she already knew it was in the trash, it was why she was so pissed. She thought the clock had been dumped in the trash because her daughter thought it was too 'cheap' looking.
And this is why..... 🐻
Why not check all the stuffed animals that she threw away?😊
They did. At 23:30 "They did still go through them but didn't find anything suspicious." in reference to the items she threw away.
How the hell is that a misdemeanor???? What if you didn’t see it first months?? wtf. All intentions to be a disgusting puke and nothing.
....I still don't trust Josh. And of course the mom is going to cover for him, thats her lover and (hopefully) her last husband. And OP changed her tune about Peter after meeting her parents- at first he was just a nobody, then suddenly she remembers he was creepy?? I wouldn't trust either of the parents ever again- her mom cares more about her lover than her daughter (the immediate slap betrayed her true feelings)- so yeeeeah- time to move in with Amy and her grandma!!
You stepfather gave you that clock and your mother slapping you was terrible I would have phoned the police and I would definitely not haven hesitated that is sexual abuse and I think you should force your mother to apologise by crawling over hot coals I hope you phoned the police
I like how the ops take forever to get to the point when getting attacked by their misguided parents. Multiple chances to yell theres a camera on the clock but op insists on dragging the story out in poor writing fashion.
Why didn't OP show her mom as soon as OP discovered the camera? Why would she wait until the next day to expose Josh, the pervert?!?!
bad creative writing. like some movies that fall apart if the main character just says wtf is going on.
She might not believe it
She was scared and freaking out. This is someone her mom knew a long time, longer than OP had been alive. And it was all happening very suddenly and without any previous signs of an issue.
So here's my two cents mom was out of line 100%. However OP was also out of line because she instantly assumed that mom's new husband was a pedo who was out to get her and didn't ask "where did you get that? "Where did you get that because there's a camera in there that was recording me. So either you are creepy and are watching me when no one's looking or the person you bought it from is creepy and is watching me when no one is looking"
assumptions make everyone involve arseholes and everyone involved made assumptions and therefore everyone involved was an arsehole. Communication is key when being a human and having human relationships. People today don't know how to communicate properly.
OP wasn’t out of line for immediately assuming that. That would be the first thing that came to my mind. You forget that SA rate with male perpetrators and female victims is very very high, and maybe be even higher taking into account unreported incidents.
Naturally, most women are very skeptical with men.
I think if OP just said there was a camera hidden in the clock it would have resolved things quickly. beating around the bush caused unneeded miscommunication. That did not justify the mom slapping the OP, but it would have ended their misunderstanding.
Although it may have been the heat of the moment and it's a possibility the mother would not listen even If it was explained. Anger can make you blind.
Of course, blame the kid!!
Have you ever had a fight with someone? Communication while angry or being upset is usually not effective.
Like the mom would have listened…at least at that time. She wouldn’t even hear her out, it was like the scene with Frank Grimes trying to explain to Mr. Burns about the acid destroying the wall.
Telling someone something so uncomfortable and traumatic is very hard. It’s not easy to admit that your stepdad’s gift was a spycam device and that he could be watching you for disturbing reasons. You sometimes don’t want to believe it yourself.
I know cause I was SAed by my dad and
Glad her mom reached out to her so soon and that her stepdad was cleared. Maybe he's learned not to let others do gift shopping for him again :)
Who gives wall clocks to 18 year olds and why not give it with all the other gifts? Also, mom slapping her over throwing away a clock and not letting her explain why. The relationship would never be the same. These stories away sound like a bad AI makes them up.
I got 3, ten pound bags of heirloom onions from my mom among other presents. Lol
😂
Mom's anger was too much, i guess her daughter callin her husband triggered her. Somehow felt tht josh wasn't responsible as he knew op since she was a child. Ops mother need anger management n family therapy.
That is what's so suspicious...she said for 18 years her mother had never slapped her. This was the first time..which means she doesn't have anger issues. This was just extremely odd. I think she had suspicions and this made her snap.
Did Josh at least fire Peter?
All i have to say is a bear would never 🤷🏾♀️
Edited to add: i remember my uncle telling me my body looked good in my pajamas when he picked me up to babysit my cousins, which i never really did any babysitting because he never went anywhere. Ff a few years and he's commenting on how good my adult cousin, his niece's body looks. Ff a few more years and i had to tell my daughters to let me know if he or his brother said anything out of line after i saw the way he looked at them.
true, a bear would just kill you, so what point are you tying to make?
Seems every week another female teacher is getting caught having inappropriate relations with a student though...
@@commoguru It takes a religious elder / pastor / leader to really screw kids over.
And you let these pedo uncles around your children? Bring on the bears.
@@Chickenfriedpenguin men kill too so what's your point? A bear never drove me around to all the places he'd hide my body if I ever reported his abuse, a bear wasn't standing over me with a pot of boiling water about to throw it on me because I wrote in my journal that I wished he would stop cheating, a bear didn't spit in my face and call me a disease pússy àss bitch after finding out his affair partner passed her disease from him to me. I could go on but it's honestly a trigger. So yeah, forever team bear.
Everyone sucks because why did OP call him a ped without giving reason. Ops mom for slapping her and josh for being a careless butt. Nott even going to start on Creeter
A gift from Josh, and possibly she thought some of her stuffed toys (received when she was under age) might also have had cameras? It's a potentially logical conclusion, especially since SA & creepy stuff happens more with people you know than people you don't.
You don't think that a hidden camera in a present from Josh that was given to her as she was going to her bedroom isn't evidence?
@@kathydurow6814exactly, the person most likely to harm you is someone you know. A friend, a family member, someone you know und trust
Why would she throw it in the trash and not take it to her mother?????
Seriously? Didn't mention the camera? Didn't shove the clock in the closet to show your mom in the morning?
Just grab your keys and go to a diner?
Seriously?
That's not realistic.
That's why I think so many of these are just creative writing exercises.
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Items like that are nanny cams, they used to be used as kiddie security cameras for when parents weren’t home.
Let's be honest OP isn't ready to part ways with Josh (or his new dad as she calls him here), So the whole family was open to finding a solution (scapegoat) to save Josh of any blame.
So Josh doesn't know his assistant that well suddenly when he had already invite him over multiples times to dinner with the family.
From this ,I got the feeling Peter was always meant to be the scapegoat for Josh perversions. (The way his seems to have a way out of any accusations, every time letting Peter get the blame is sus )
she should of kept the clock and either just stuffed it in a box in the closet or removed or covered the camera. I'd also move out asap, she could also put something heavy on it 'by accident' breaking the clock :)
A really ironic twist ending would be if the police examined the clock and found out that there was no spy camera at all and the little blue light was a battery light that changed color to red when the battery was low and would soon need to be replaced. How brutal would that revelation have been?
If I THINK there is a camera HIDDEN in a gift given to me,
NOT throwing it out until AFTER I take it apart to PROVE there is a camera.
Then scorthed earth on the gift giver AFTER the police is examining the gift.
Verify, then police, then slam everyone.
Had the police been called 1st. That slap would NOT have happened UNTIL maybe after they left, but then she's going to prison
I hope someone looked at Josh's phone for an app.
Call the cops on everyone, including the mom for assault and battery
Assault in her own house? Ok
@@malcolmxlax3451 So assaulting someone is ok if they are in your home... Hmm, let's try some word swapping, I guess se*ual assault is ok as long as it is in your house. Both are crimes yet I'd wager you would not think the latter is ok. so why would the former be?
Charge mom with domestic battery.
@@zackkatian3436 My child in my house yes I can and you switching out hitting with SA is an idiotic stretch. Are you saying that parents can't discipline their children?
@@malcolmxlax3451 There is a difference between discipline and abuse. Slapping someone across the face goes above discipline. Sorry this is not the 1950's anymore where you could get away with belting your child until you left welts.
But OK let me use a different example. 'My wife accused my brother of something so I slapped her across the face.' I'm going to assume you think that is fine as well? If it is wrong to do physical assault to an adult then how is it OK to do to a child?
OP should have followed her friend's advice and called the police first off. That night. But she's young, so I won't say she gets a pass, but I understand she was confused, conflicted and grossed out. The important thing is the police were called eventually. Doing it this way kept the step dad out of jail. If OP had called the cops right off, step dad would have spent time in jail until things got cleared up.
I definitely do not trust Josh and the Mom was too quick to defend him.
You mean cause, op didn't want to give her all the details or the explanation? The narration tells you clearly that Op lounged around waiting for her mother to react seeing the clock in the garbage like it was disrespected for being cheap.
So naive to trust Josh. That message could literally be them talking about finding a cam clock. Since they clearly had that convo irl and not in texts. Saying she trusts Josh is so dumb... literally made me roll my eyes. Its just very suspicious.
She shouldn't of dumped them all, should of kept them as proof
Scared eighteen year old.
How the fuck did he think it was going to end? Did he really think that a spy clock was feasible?
1) cops don’t sweep the job site
2) OP doesn’t even ask for a lock on her door
3) what happened to the clock? Why chuck it out if you’re bringing cops into it?
4) OP so used to being slapped she’s got no trauma counselling for it?
OP should press charges against Josh, Peter and her mom. Josh and Peter for the camera and images, and her mom for the assault. I would never forgive my mom for the slap and for not believing me. Never ever get rid of the evidence you have, and never hesitate to go to the police. Hope OP learns from this and becomes someone better than her mom and Josh.
I could be mistaken, but don't those hidden cameras usually have a limited transmission range? Und, if they're WiFi enabled, they'd have to be intentionally connected to a WiFi network. Or if the images\footage is stored locally. How did Peter plan on recovering it\them.
The good news is that the stuffed animals turned out to be safe.
But as others have said,it is very disturbing that the mothers first reaction was to violently slap her daughter und *NOT* give her the chance to explain why.
While the OP's reaction to these nanny cams as they are commonly referred is understandable.
They *DO* have a legitimate purpose. People buy them all of the time to monitor the actions of domestic help, i.e. nanny's, babysitters, maids, et cetera. Usually, it's a case of closing the barn door *AFTER* the horse has run away.
Und I am sorry, but given that the mothers first reaction was to violently slap her daughter und not listen to her. It does make me wonder at least a little bit as too how innocent she und Josh are.
Also given that these digital pinhole cameras can be hidden pretty much anywhere. I will repeat the advice I have heard multiple times. After checking into a hotel or motel. The very *FIRST* thing that you should do is to turn off *ALL* of the lights, open the camera app on your phone und scan your room to make sure that there aren't any hidden cameras.
A bit of trivia for everyone. It's not just hidden cameras that the camera on a cellphone can detect. Take your phone, open the camera app. Turn off the lights. Grab your remote control. Point it at your phone's camera. Press the buttons.
If it's an IR (infrared) remote, your camera will detect it as well.
Dam i feel for OP and Josh.
The mum needs a talking too about slaps etc
Man can’t imagine finding out all this. Of course she threw out everything. U really can’t trust anything after this. I would feel the same too like someone is watching me. Hell I would move out of that house completely
Let’s hope Peter has to register as a predator.
Even if he did, it isn't always permanent und the person is removed after a predetermined length of time
Look, you find a hidden camera first thing you DO IS CALL THE POLICE!!!!!
Best story i heard in a while 😅
What I least understand is how the slap was just brushed off.
It starts with a slap, then it gets worse.
Furthermore, violence is never the way to go to correct a child, the trust between them will forever be scarred.
A LOT of studies have proven this, which is why a lot of modern, western, Free countries have made it illigal to hit, slap, spank or in any way cause bodily harm to a child for any reason.
I would never forgive such a thing & you can ask but forgiveness (I would prefer a sincere apology and making amends, asking forgiveness is not the same thing) is not always given & you can't force someone to forgive.
In this sitution though the "mom" would not even listen to her before taking this extreme action, honestly that is more concerning than anything & is ultimately what would have broken my trust completely, she took his side, her man, before her daughter, that is how predators get away with the most awful abuse & SA on young girls, the mothers do not defend their dughters & let it continue & escalate while blaming the child & protecting the criminal.
Maybe in the future we will learn to truly value, respect and protect our children but it is not today I'm afraid, not even parents can properly do this clearly by this post as just one example.
Wow, I just did an internet search and they actually exist
They make nanny cams so you can watch your children.
NTA OP, at being deeply upset about what you found out. However, if your stepdad has proof that it was someone else who actually bought the clock and who, therefore, would know what sort of site it was purchased from (if purchased online) or what sort of shop it was bought from, you should give him a chance to speak and show you what happened. It all seems to hinge on whether your stepdad knew about the camera. Your mum loves you and would not be in on such a scheme unless she thought you had been doing something terribly wrong and needed to watch you. In the absence of any wrongdoing on your part, this would not be the case. As you have known Josh for a long time and he has not done anything which made you feel uncomfortable before, it is unlikely that he is what you suspect. As you seem previously not to have had any problem with him, give him the benefit of the doubt and hear him out. You can explain to him how you found stuffed toys with cameras on the site and that is why you had bagged all the toys he and your mum had given you. Innocent until proven guilty is an important concept of law and, in the circumstances, you should give your step father a chance to explain and show you what proof he has that he did not buy the gift for you, imo. Your mum and you are going to be vigilant from now on, regardless of what anyone says, which is a horrible situation if, as seems likely, your step dad is entirely blameless.
Josh liked playing pocket pool
Maybe the adults all knew and were hoping to get money by selling kiddy pics
She's just hit 18. The perfect time to take pervert picks.
They told something about an 18th birthday - the first full day as an adult, you get slapped by your mom and behave like a spoiled toddler!
Allowing that it’s all true and only Peter behind it, it seems like it would be a long time before OP would really trust her mom again. Josh I could see her trusting, as he was lazy about getting a gift. Mom showed she can’t be counted on, and is likely going to feel guilty about it and be a long time trying to make amends.
So did the husband find the clock in the trash, or did his assistant buy it?
Not once in the exchange did she tell her mom.about the camera. Instead made accusations against her stepfather that said i don't trust Peter getting the clock.
Cause sometimes, very Intuitive victims behave like something serious has to be taken up a peg when it comes to the dramatics of it.
Op wanted to rage bait her mom. She really sat around waiting for her mom to react to finding the clock. She really waited for her mom to hold the bias that the clock was thrown away for being cheap. She was asked why it was tossed in the garbage and instead of saying camera was in it, she opened with an uncivilized insult to gaslight her mother further instead of properly communicating.
Op waited for her mother to react to it. She literally did not run immediately to her mother and she let her mother sleep in a bed with a bad person instead of running.
Getting slapped across the face was like all the dramatics she needed to decide that she gets to feel validated for not explaining something so that her mom is still the bad guy cause she did want her mom to have the wrong perception so she gets to be in the right but she wasn't even interested in communicating or shutting it down. She wanted to escalate it more than it has to be.
OK so your child is upset but rather then trying to find out why alot of you folks make excuses for the mom because she is emotional? The child was emotional but so what she had no reason to try and protect herself from a perv(unknown but a perv) It is amazing how it is the childs fault for being emotional and not being clear about what happened but god forbid if the mother reacted with a slap instead of trying to figure out what was happening. The thing that makes me so angry is that people do not have enough support(friends/family etc) and/or the ability to think for themselves. the child went to friends house and friend seems to have a god head on her shoulders.
You guys, the mom was not even gonna get an explanation cause it looked like op threw the clock away without saying anything and then lounged around waiting for her mother to react to it being in the garbage like it was discarded for being a cheap knock off.
The op meant for the mother to precieve this as a bias that the op was disrespectful without reason. It isn't as if op got up immediately to take herself and her mother out of the house. She let her mother continue sleeping in bed with that man.
There was like literally no logical fkn common sense reason to lounge around and wait until her mother found it first as if she was rage baiting a disrespected reaction from her mom to then be like, "oh I gas light you into screaming at me and defending him cause you precieved that I called him cheap so now I have a rational justified reason not to tell you a damn thing."
If you're a stoic sociopath, a gaslighter and you practice cognitive and intuitive pathology enough you can notice in stories and the fetails that arent spoken that people that want everyone eles to be in the wrong can rage bait someone to react terribly and then its their fault when you didnt want to communicate the details anyones so that they could look like the foolish currupt ones.
She wanted her mother to find it at the top of the garbage bin and teact to it and ask questions so that instead if explaining she would just drop uncivilized insults at her moms partner to play a mind game of who will mom choose in the heat of the moment while mom is hopping mad cause op didnt adequately use proper communication. 🙄
So I do think the mum should have listened to her daughter instead of just going off at her but I think this situation is covering up something else in my view.
If I was op’s ‘dad’ I would get a dna test done. I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out ‘uncle’ Josh is her dad.
Yes the ex should have just left instead of cheated but op may just realise not everything is black and white.
Story 1 makes no sense, at all first how she reacts and how the mother reacts.
Because op was never going to explain or communicate it seriously.
She threw the clock away in the top of the bin where her mother was going to find it cause she was lounging around waiting for her mother to react to it and ask questions first. And instead of explaining it appropriately she opens the argument with dropping uncivilized insults like a game of rage bait mommy into perceiving the bias that I threw it away cause it's cheap.
Just cause op is a victim doesn't mean she can't be an intuitive gaslighter about it. Victims practice behaviors that are more spiteful than they have to be. She really wanted to test rage baiting her mom into yelling at her for thinking the clock was cheap so that leaving and not explaining anything would be more justified.
I wish grown a&% people would stop ''playing'' teenagers, and wanting reactions from it on reddit
It is creepy
And, I do wish the FBI, or any versions of it from any which country will take it seriously
This story reads almost the same (different circumstances)
BUT
In the same level of unbelievable post/words, of that one post who had the guy asking for advices, because his 17 year old gf was pregnant, he was 17 years old too, and she was being the most difficult person to ever lived or breathed..
The nuances from that story and this one, seems extremely similar
It's creepy, coz, it was discovered that a 30 or something year old woman, wrote the story..
She did not confess btw...
it was...
Redditors, were so concerned, that they investigated and found it out
This story.. it sounds the same as that previous one
OP was TA first, then ETA. If this story is real, it's such a bunch of stupid hysterical people, specially the OP lol
Found the dude that likes to spy on little girls with hidden cameras.