@@a-part yeah, I probably use it even more with synth and sound design in general haha. My intention was to do more of the pedalboard-cam stuff but I didn’t realise how complex and stressful that filming setup would get 😂 Still learning all the time 🎸
Don't even have a guitar and now I feel like I need to get one to make all those beautiful sounds like you did! All hail the algorithm for bringing me here.
@@nerdebynature Ah, glad to hear it! I’m in the rhythm of setting them up then taking them apart again at the moment. Helps to have the board and power supply in place I find. Thanks so much! 🎸
@@philxknife a good one to start with as it’s really easy to control! Imagine if you got a Fuzz Factory and ended up hating it haha. Thanks for watching 🎸
@@Zallard honestly, I think chorus is one where analog matters to me most. But I do like to have access to digital obviously because it Exists haha. Thanks so so much my friend 🎸
Without watching the video yet, here's my idea: Low gain drive -> Chorus -> Reverb -> Any fuzzy distortion -> Delay (or Boss Space Echo) -> Gaze EDIT: Nice shout on the Slicer. I have one of the big ones on my board I use in stereo, it makes a lot of cool noises.
I’m thinking about the Space Echo next! I only really use fuzz after reverb for studio stuff as it’s so temperamental haha. Boss Slicer is a legend. Thanks! 🎸
Shoegaze lives! Great video. Would love a Shoegaze song breakdown discussing basic DNA 🧬 Composition, hooks, etc with intent of writing your own. Cheers 🍻
@@adamscenna Ah thanks! Yeah, would love to do something like that. Have been trying to figure out how to present it for a while. Thanks so much! Chris
Your descriptions are actually spot on. It DOES sound like a Wizard in a cave, an Electric Wizard. And that description of a Granular Delay is pretty spot on laymans description of granular processing. If you ever get a chance to read it, Curtis Rhodes Microsound book gives great coverage and it's a good book to skim through, at least parts of.
@@compucorder64 Ah thanks so much. I really appreciate that. Good shout on that book. Will have a look. Yeah, the Afterneath really takes me to places. Very ‘visual’ sound, if that makes sense 🎸
That’s an absolutely gorgeous Jag you’ve got there. Thoroughly enjoyed the video, I’m always interested in what fellow noisemakers are using to generate their brand of aural madness compared to what I use. Subscribed!
@@donewithmodernlife ah cheers. Yeah, I love the Mystic Dakota Red 🎸 Glad you enjoyed it and thanks! I just like seeing people nerd out over stuff haha.
i just found your channel and i see its the first video thats not a short. I'd love to see something about different tunings, chords, different technique of playing, more in depth cause there not a lot of shoegaze stuff for musician on youtube sadly. I play guitar for almost 20 years and i can't do half what you did you got real talent !
Thanks so so much for the kind words. All that stuff is coming up. Doing a bit of a longer video was a bit of an experiment and I’ve very much enjoyed it. More to come. So glad you stopped by 🎸
My methodology is going to my local shop knowing exactly what I want, they don't have it but "this might be just as good", and then I fuck around with the settings.
@@simonblanjean6538 I live next door to a really amazing guitar store but I’ve basically banned myself from going in there because of this very scenario.
Pedals ppl haven’t heard of? You must not be into pedals. Boss, TC Electronic, EHX, MXR, EQD, even Walrus aren’t boutique. Mooer is Chinese but they make great clones, so good they got cease and desist lawsuits. Dead beat is the only one I don’t know but whatever. I have my favorite chorus anyway.
Love all these sounds. I may have to pick up that rusty fuzz. Another weird delay option is the dd8 with the reverse setting. I turn the time pretty low, the feedback around 1 o clock, and the volume at 12. I have a boss ph3 on the fall setting going into that if my dirt pedals are off. I like to think of it as a bubbling or gurgling noise. Pretty damn fun.
@@briangarcia8384 honestly it’s great. Especially for the price. The reason I’m after the DD-8 is for the reverse, analog and glitch settings. Really underrated delay. Thanks so much! 🎸
Oh, and I think a RAT is a good choice to go with Acapulco Gold. And can also do everything from Shoegaze to full doom. Acapulco Gold & Rat can get you into full bore MBV mode. Or with the also great and cheap EHX Octavix even Sunn O))) Life Pedal territory. I really like the TC Magus Pro, because it's cheap, small and I think better than the newer standard Proco RAT because of that. And also because you get three voicings, standard, FAT, & Turbo. I especially like the latter. And the FAT RAT mode, and Plumes, are both good for grinding Kim Gordon style bass tone too. Similar story with using the volume to adjust the level, then the RAT can do everything from Boost, to Distortion to near Fuzz. It's a very versatile and playable pedal. Above the TC, and the EHX Green Russian reissue, I really like the Way Huge Green Pickle, it can get really unhinged if you want to. But it's very tuneable and controllable too.
@@compucorder64 yeah! I’ve actually got a drone metal video where I combine the Acapulco, Woolley Mammoth and Joyo Splinter (Fat Rat clone). Was a while ago and I didn’t do that good a job of it haha. Pyroclasts by Sunn O))) massively inspired it. Definitely going to do a doom pedalboard video and maybe drone. Also thinking about doing a high gain combo type thing. A few ideas anyway haha.
@@chrisegonmusic Ah, I missed that. I only just subscribed. A Doom, & Drone pedalboard video would be very cool. I'm puzzling out those sounds now. With a Guild Polara, and a P90 Gibson Les Paul Special, into an Orange Rocker 30. Settled on the Acapulco Gold, TC Magus Pro RAT & Way Huge Green Pickle. For Drone, though more coming from the synth side, I love my Soma Cosmos, Chase Bliss Mood mk.II, OBNE Dark Star, Meris Polymoon & Meris Mercury X. OBNE Sunlight would be cool too, as well as their Beam Splitter. That Infiniti pedal too.
@@compucorder64 I’ve been very close to getting a Guild Polara! I’ve got the Meris Enzo and Ottobit but am really just scratching the surface with them. Thanks for the sub!
I really love it. Unfortunately there are only 250 in the world. It’s a 60th anniversary edition in Mystic Dakota Red. They do come up Reverb every now and again. Thanks so much!
I also have the honey pot and was wondering if you also had a problem with a small delay in the activation of the pedal when you switch it on? I read other people have it too
@@ajimmar for some reason, that series of pedals uses a switch that only activates when you stop pressing it rather than coming on when press it. It’s a very common gripe and I have no idea why they went with that kind of switch. It doesn’t really bother me as I must press fast anyway. To fix it you could just swap out the switch.
@@chrisegonmusic oh good to read that. I also have the TC electronic sky surfer (which is a pretty similar build) but doesn't have that problem for some reason. Thanks though.
Nice pedal choices. Have you ever used any death by audio pedals? I am also using the slicer as a termalo pedal, I had originally gotten it to use on my synths.
Thanks! I haven’t but I love A Place to Bury Strangers. First album is one of my favourites of that ilk. I’m definitely interested in trying Fuzz War 🎸
@@gae7081 forever indeed! I use 10s on shorter scale (Gibson & Jaguar) and 9s on Fender scale. 12s if I’m tuning to C Standard. I only change them if they break or the tuning becomes unstable Thanks! 🎸
Interesting combination :) one question though, if your signal goes from the slicer into the compressor I would assume the change in volume from the slicer interferes with the compressor, since this would try to level out the volume changes.
@@MaikeruSumisu cheers! Yeah that’s interesting and a great question! I think that mostly applies to a sine wave style tremolo, which the Slicer can do but I use it as more of a stutter, on/off. Maybe there’s something happening there but nothing that I’ve noticed too much. I like compression after a fading delay as there’s definitely some interaction there. I don’t think I’ll ever fully understand compression. My relationship with it continues to get slightly better throughout the years 🎸
@@chrisegonmusic yes, true, if it's only on/off then there is no signal left to compress/enhance. I love tremolo (or similar modulation effects) after fuzz or reverb to really bring all that texture alive. Regarding compression, I understand it from a theoretical point of view, but somehow my ears never got there 😅 for me, I always used it as a sound-shaping tool
@@MaikeruSumisu I lost so much sleep over compression 😂 I put several tremolos in a chain sometimes actually. At the start and end of the chain. I feel like humans love tremolo for some reason haha.
You can get it in a larger, vintage version that has less options haha. It is a bit daunting though. I almost feel guilty for not exploring everything that it can do.
@@spearitbomb good question! These are in isolation as in the other pedals are switched off but still connected (so any buffers will be active but I honestly never think about that.) Since there’s a Boss pedal at the start of the chain, I suppose everything is technically buffered to some extent but I don’t think it’s making a notable difference. There’s not even any post production at all which made me feel rather self conscious haha. There are a few examples at the end of the video with some sounds from the board. Thanks for asking!
You seem to be doing this on the cheep. You could use a Microcosm, glitches and modulations for days. Maybe a looper, and step up your delay to at least a line 6 DL-4 mark II. Presets. Tap tempo and a looper, and a dual delay. And a Bit crusher would be nice, like the data corruptor for weird solos and monster riffs. I think you have a good start but need to push that board a little further. Good call on the slicer (which im gonna have to get now) and the afterneath.
Walrus Fable is the most expensive on here I think. I have an HX Stomp which has the DL. I like that pedal but can’t really justify it since I basically already have access to it there. I have a looper but don’t really care for them. Also have an Ottobit jr. but haven’t really got my head around it yet. Definitely would go with this board though. Not really interested in the Microcosm but have considered it. It feel like it just sounds like a Microcosm. This board is definitely a simplified version of others I’ve used. Cheers 🎸
@@cinnamon_biscuit08 the trem system in the Jaguar and Jazzmaster are so good for this type of music. We never have money as it goes towards drive, chorus and reverb. Possibly the odd set of strings 🎸
@@niteshades_promise I like going straight into my Marshall with some of the built in reverb. There’s more of a connection there. I also like the wealth of options pedals bring 🎸
No post production is used on any of these sounds.
I am very emotional about delay and reverb.
i feel you man, delays , and filters are my 2 fav effects. i am not even a guitarist lol. (it would be cool if the pedalboard-cam stay all the time)
@@a-part yeah, I probably use it even more with synth and sound design in general haha.
My intention was to do more of the pedalboard-cam stuff but I didn’t realise how complex and stressful that filming setup would get 😂
Still learning all the time 🎸
i remember lots of super emotional reverbs in william orbit record "pieces in a modern style"
@@a-part I’ll check that out thanks! 🙏
@@chrisegonmusic cool! let me know
nice to see another Egon playing shoegaze
@@egonkramm1154 we gotta stick together 👌
Don't even have a guitar and now I feel like I need to get one to make all those beautiful sounds like you did!
All hail the algorithm for bringing me here.
@@pistachiyoyo I’m glad you found your way here.
Every household could benefit from one or many guitars 🎸
Thanks so much!
Loved this board breakdown! I am a pedal junkie but haven't set up an actual pedal board in ages, this might just be the motivation I need!
@@nerdebynature Ah, glad to hear it!
I’m in the rhythm of setting them up then taking them apart again at the moment.
Helps to have the board and power supply in place I find.
Thanks so much! 🎸
The TC Electronic was my first Fuzz and I bought it blindly since it says Fuzz. Very cool to see it on another board!
@@philxknife a good one to start with as it’s really easy to control!
Imagine if you got a Fuzz Factory and ended up hating it haha.
Thanks for watching 🎸
nothing like analog chorus! nice rings, pedals and video bro!
@@Zallard honestly, I think chorus is one where analog matters to me most.
But I do like to have access to digital obviously because it
Exists haha.
Thanks so so much my friend 🎸
Without watching the video yet, here's my idea: Low gain drive -> Chorus -> Reverb -> Any fuzzy distortion -> Delay (or Boss Space Echo) -> Gaze
EDIT: Nice shout on the Slicer. I have one of the big ones on my board I use in stereo, it makes a lot of cool noises.
I’m thinking about the Space Echo next!
I only really use fuzz after reverb for studio stuff as it’s so temperamental haha.
Boss Slicer is a legend.
Thanks! 🎸
First time viewer. Like it. Great low key vibes.
@@8369378 ah cheers!
I’m permanently set to low key hehe.
🎸
Shoegaze lives! Great video. Would love a Shoegaze song breakdown discussing basic DNA 🧬 Composition, hooks, etc with intent of writing your own. Cheers 🍻
@@adamscenna Ah thanks!
Yeah, would love to do something like that.
Have been trying to figure out how to present it for a while.
Thanks so much!
Chris
@@chrisegonmusic np looking forward to it
Your descriptions are actually spot on. It DOES sound like a Wizard in a cave, an Electric Wizard. And that description of a Granular Delay is pretty spot on laymans description of granular processing. If you ever get a chance to read it, Curtis Rhodes Microsound book gives great coverage and it's a good book to skim through, at least parts of.
@@compucorder64 Ah thanks so much.
I really appreciate that.
Good shout on that book. Will have a look.
Yeah, the Afterneath really takes me to places.
Very ‘visual’ sound, if that makes sense 🎸
That’s an absolutely gorgeous Jag you’ve got there. Thoroughly enjoyed the video, I’m always interested in what fellow noisemakers are using to generate their brand of aural madness compared to what I use. Subscribed!
@@donewithmodernlife ah cheers.
Yeah, I love the Mystic Dakota Red 🎸
Glad you enjoyed it and thanks!
I just like seeing people nerd out over stuff haha.
Agreed on the beauty of that Jag!
@ cheers!
Great vid!
Thanks a mil
That EQD pedal sounds incredible
The Afterneath?
It’s a thing of pure beauty.
I think I’ll do a EQD board at some point.
They make a mean box 🎸
i just found your channel and i see its the first video thats not a short. I'd love to see something about different tunings, chords, different technique of playing, more in depth cause there not a lot of shoegaze stuff for musician on youtube sadly. I play guitar for almost 20 years and i can't do half what you did you got real talent !
Thanks so so much for the kind words.
All that stuff is coming up.
Doing a bit of a longer video was a bit of an experiment and I’ve very much enjoyed it.
More to come.
So glad you stopped by 🎸
Awesome video🙌great to see the acapulco gold v2 love❤
Ah cheers!
I’ve always loved that pedal from when I first heard it demo’d 🎸
I've subbed🙏hope to see more commentary-style videos. You're pretty funny, lol
@@_widas_ Thanks again!
I think it’s just nerves 😂
How soon is now. thanks for the stratacaster mbv flashbacks ❤
@@paulbloof675 Going to do a nightmare board of syncing up tremolos at some point.
Cheers! 🎸
My methodology is going to my local shop knowing exactly what I want, they don't have it but "this might be just as good", and then I fuck around with the settings.
@@simonblanjean6538 I live next door to a really amazing guitar store but I’ve basically banned myself from going in there because of this very scenario.
step 1: use pedals most people have never heard.
@@slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage I suppose I could fit a DS-1 on there.
@@chrisegonmusic nah, get the ds-1 clone made by some dude out of his garage called the "funny fart box" or some shit lol
@@slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage well I’m only going to buy it if it’s 3x the usual price 🧐
@@chrisegonmusic TRU
Pedals ppl haven’t heard of? You must not be into pedals. Boss, TC Electronic, EHX, MXR, EQD, even Walrus aren’t boutique. Mooer is Chinese but they make great clones, so good they got cease and desist lawsuits. Dead beat is the only one I don’t know but whatever. I have my favorite chorus anyway.
Great advice on comp
@@jasoncolap totally changed how I use it.
Thanks! 🎸
Love all these sounds. I may have to pick up that rusty fuzz. Another weird delay option is the dd8 with the reverse setting. I turn the time pretty low, the feedback around 1 o clock, and the volume at 12. I have a boss ph3 on the fall setting going into that if my dirt pedals are off. I like to think of it as a bubbling or gurgling noise. Pretty damn fun.
@@briangarcia8384 honestly it’s great. Especially for the price.
The reason I’m after the DD-8 is for the reverse, analog and glitch settings.
Really underrated delay.
Thanks so much! 🎸
Red Panda make great pedals for glitchy stuff
@@doubled5383 ah! Kind of forgot but I had them on my radar!
Pedalgaze. Forget about the shoes
@@LDN76 shoes get in the way of turning on the pedals.
Very inconvenient 🎸
Oh, and I think a RAT is a good choice to go with Acapulco Gold. And can also do everything from Shoegaze to full doom. Acapulco Gold & Rat can get you into full bore MBV mode. Or with the also great and cheap EHX Octavix even Sunn O))) Life Pedal territory. I really like the TC Magus Pro, because it's cheap, small and I think better than the newer standard Proco RAT because of that. And also because you get three voicings, standard, FAT, & Turbo. I especially like the latter. And the FAT RAT mode, and Plumes, are both good for grinding Kim Gordon style bass tone too. Similar story with using the volume to adjust the level, then the RAT can do everything from Boost, to Distortion to near Fuzz. It's a very versatile and playable pedal. Above the TC, and the EHX Green Russian reissue, I really like the Way Huge Green Pickle, it can get really unhinged if you want to. But it's very tuneable and controllable too.
@@compucorder64 yeah! I’ve actually got a drone metal video where I combine the Acapulco, Woolley Mammoth and Joyo Splinter (Fat Rat clone).
Was a while ago and I didn’t do that good a job of it haha.
Pyroclasts by Sunn O))) massively inspired it.
Definitely going to do a doom pedalboard video and maybe drone.
Also thinking about doing a high gain combo type thing.
A few ideas anyway haha.
@@chrisegonmusic Ah, I missed that. I only just subscribed. A Doom, & Drone pedalboard video would be very cool. I'm puzzling out those sounds now. With a Guild Polara, and a P90 Gibson Les Paul Special, into an Orange Rocker 30. Settled on the Acapulco Gold, TC Magus Pro RAT & Way Huge Green Pickle. For Drone, though more coming from the synth side, I love my Soma Cosmos, Chase Bliss Mood mk.II, OBNE Dark Star, Meris Polymoon & Meris Mercury X. OBNE Sunlight would be cool too, as well as their Beam Splitter. That Infiniti pedal too.
@@compucorder64 I’ve been very close to getting a Guild Polara!
I’ve got the Meris Enzo and Ottobit but am really just scratching the surface with them.
Thanks for the sub!
God that Jaguar is BEAUTIFUL. Where'd you get it? I've been on the hunt for one for ages 😭
I really love it.
Unfortunately there are only 250 in the world.
It’s a 60th anniversary edition in Mystic Dakota Red.
They do come up Reverb every now and again.
Thanks so much!
I’ve had a look and there are currently a few up actually.
Hope you can get one!
Honey pot fuzz added to eBay watchlist
@@sour37 I think there’s currently a few on Reverb.
So much bang for ya buck (pund)
i loved thissssssssss
I’m glad you do! 🎸
I also have the honey pot and was wondering if you also had a problem with a small delay in the activation of the pedal when you switch it on? I read other people have it too
@@ajimmar for some reason, that series of pedals uses a switch that only activates when you stop pressing it rather than coming on when press it.
It’s a very common gripe and I have no idea why they went with that kind of switch.
It doesn’t really bother me as I must press fast anyway.
To fix it you could just swap out the switch.
@@chrisegonmusic oh good to read that. I also have the TC electronic sky surfer (which is a pretty similar build) but doesn't have that problem for some reason. Thanks though.
@@ajimmar anytime 🎸
Nice pedal choices. Have you ever used any death by audio pedals? I am also using the slicer as a termalo pedal, I had originally gotten it to use on my synths.
Thanks!
I haven’t but I love A Place to Bury Strangers.
First album is one of my favourites of that ilk.
I’m definitely interested in trying Fuzz War 🎸
I have a fuzz war and its absolutely skull crushing 🔥
@@alexmurrin653 Ok, I need it I think.
You know you need it. We all need it. And then the next. And next. And next. Lol. @@chrisegonmusic
@@Steve-th9jn this is exactly how it goes 🙃
I've got a Mooer pedal (Shimverb) but it keeps falling off the board cos there's not enough surface area for the velcro :(
@@domlo66 My Flanger is really difficult to Velcro down because of where the battery compartment is.
You could always use cable ties 🎸
Hi, shoegaze forever!!! What gauge strings do you use? On this Amazing Jaguar.
@@gae7081 forever indeed!
I use 10s on shorter scale (Gibson & Jaguar) and 9s on Fender scale.
12s if I’m tuning to C Standard.
I only change them if they break or the tuning becomes unstable
Thanks! 🎸
@@chrisegonmusic thank you very much, my dude!
Interesting combination :) one question though, if your signal goes from the slicer into the compressor I would assume the change in volume from the slicer interferes with the compressor, since this would try to level out the volume changes.
@@MaikeruSumisu cheers!
Yeah that’s interesting and a great question!
I think that mostly applies to a sine wave style tremolo, which the Slicer can do but I use it as more of a stutter, on/off.
Maybe there’s something happening there but nothing that I’ve noticed too much.
I like compression after a fading delay as there’s definitely some interaction there.
I don’t think I’ll ever fully understand compression. My relationship with it continues to get slightly better throughout the years 🎸
@@chrisegonmusic yes, true, if it's only on/off then there is no signal left to compress/enhance. I love tremolo (or similar modulation effects) after fuzz or reverb to really bring all that texture alive. Regarding compression, I understand it from a theoretical point of view, but somehow my ears never got there 😅 for me, I always used it as a sound-shaping tool
@@MaikeruSumisu I lost so much sleep over compression 😂
I put several tremolos in a chain sometimes actually. At the start and end of the chain.
I feel like humans love tremolo for some reason haha.
the slicer is sick, I'd love to get it in a mini version with maybe less options.
If anyone knows of an alternative, please let me know! :)
You can get it in a larger, vintage version that has less options haha.
It is a bit daunting though.
I almost feel guilty for not exploring everything that it can do.
Dumb question, are you demo'ing these in isolation or through the pedal chain?
@@spearitbomb good question!
These are in isolation as in the other pedals are switched off but still connected (so any buffers will be active but I honestly never think about that.)
Since there’s a Boss pedal at the start of the chain, I suppose everything is technically buffered to some extent but I don’t think it’s making a notable difference.
There’s not even any post production at all which made me feel rather self conscious haha.
There are a few examples at the end of the video with some sounds from the board.
Thanks for asking!
@@chrisegonmusicawesome, thanks!! And great vid, just subscribed 🙏
@@spearitbomb wonderful! 🎸
Thanks again
❤❤❤
@@collisiondevices cheers there, lads 🎸
Big muffins nano is small and great
Muff sorry
@@jonpeterson7133 they actually do one called English Muffin that uses valves.
May have to get the Nano at some point as the big box style is massive
Slicer first!!
@@VictorMerryweather glitchy boy up front
You seem to be doing this on the cheep. You could use a Microcosm, glitches and modulations for days. Maybe a looper, and step up your delay to at least a line 6 DL-4 mark II. Presets. Tap tempo and a looper, and a dual delay. And a Bit crusher would be nice, like the data corruptor for weird solos and monster riffs. I think you have a good start but need to push that board a little further. Good call on the slicer (which im gonna have to get now) and the afterneath.
Walrus Fable is the most expensive on here I think.
I have an HX Stomp which has the DL. I like that pedal but can’t really justify it since I basically already have access to it there.
I have a looper but don’t really care for them.
Also have an Ottobit jr. but haven’t really got my head around it yet. Definitely would go with this board though.
Not really interested in the Microcosm but have considered it.
It feel like it just sounds like a Microcosm.
This board is definitely a simplified version of others I’ve used.
Cheers 🎸
@@chrisegonmusic thanks for the reply. And for real fun. Get an Atreides
@@hazycorse I need to look at that actually. I’m definitely interested.
Hope you enjoy the Slicer! It does so much more than I do with it haha 🎸
I just need an offset with whammy, drive, chorus, reverb, and money
@@cinnamon_biscuit08 the trem system in the Jaguar and Jazzmaster are so good for this type of music.
We never have money as it goes towards drive, chorus and reverb.
Possibly the odd set of strings 🎸
i just use an amp with built in fx. never had a pedal board.
@@niteshades_promise I like going straight into my Marshall with some of the built in reverb.
There’s more of a connection there.
I also like the wealth of options pedals bring 🎸
Spend $10,000 building a pedal board or a few hundred on plugins. Hmmm, I wonder which one I will choose?
@@trailingupwards there are a lot of good free plugins too.
I’ve went through periods on exclusively using sims.
It’s all fun.
😅 i don't think some people know what shoe gazing is.. 😆
👍
step 1: learn how to play
the guitar before you buy pedals
Ah I wouldn’t say it was necessary
😂
@@kingdozerr 👍
...so that you can avoid it
@@sawdustcrypto3987 aye