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- Dusttin of "The Dusttin Bowerman Show" answers the question: How do you know if you have what it takes to go pro in Esports? It's not an easy question and you NEED to be honest with yourself. If you think you're good, go for it. Realistically, you're probably not going to make it statistically. Good luck!
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Someone actually fkin did it.. Shout out Valorant pro V1 Florescent for apparently being 14 when they watched this video. Now they are 17 and playing pro Valorant LOL. Can't believe someone actually did it.
Now that's motivational lmao
That's 1 out of 70,000 people. Now we know the odds are 0.0014% of being pro
IM A HUGE FAN OF V1 WHATTTTTTTT
@@Joshid1212 Lol I was just watching V1 vs SR GC 5 mins ago
did u pay him the $100??
Im too old, If i could go back in time I would give my child self a computer instead of wasting a decade and a half on consoles.
Ya right? I wish my parents were lame ass squares and just bought me a PC instead of a basketball. I'd be clicking DUMMY heads. Weird playing KBaM for the first time in your mid 20s
I always thought that us older people would naturally be able to fall in as coaches or mentors. But it turns out these dang kids are just too cracked.
@@bargainshopp3r389 can't beat a little Korean boy who's been railing adderol
@@ryanfrancis3839 are they actually on addy?
Same! I was looking the other day. Played Cod when I was 10 got my comp at 13 never touched a game like CS till I was 21 kinda crazy to think about.
i was at a certain point where I wanted to go pro so badly in some games I've been playing for years, and I just couldn't... i even went to therapy after facing so much failure. i was in a dark place until a current pro player told me "if you play to win, Im not worried of ever facing you. play to improve, everyday. play to improve on yourself." and its been my go-to for competitive games, the pro life isn't my main focus as hard as it used to be, i just want to be good for me, for my own happiness, the happiness of being better than you were yesterday, that's what makes me happy.
Inspirational
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
Good advice and life advice in general. I just want to add that you shouldnt go pro for the money. The money in Esports are usually relatively low unless you create a brand for yourself. Imagine you spend maybe 10,000 hours to end up as one of the best players and you are paid 100K a year for it. If you dont even enjoy gaming, 100K a year is actually a pretty poor salary for someone who is one of the best in the world at what they do.
Therapy for insecurity in a video game LOL
@@tj4647 It’s a different world bro. lol
Major respect that you’re being honest rather than overhyping being a pro for views.
Easiest $100 I've ever made.
agreed
how?
Me as a plat player: i think maybe
anything is possible if you have the dedication, and some type of talent, you dont need to have bqb levels of mechanics
@@offbrand3914 if were being honest tho, you should try to get as good as you can in games in general and wait for a new game thats similar the ones your good at and grind that one. like the scene of these games is already too developed to try to be pro from average.
Me a Bronze: Yeah obviously
@@brown9671 maybe scenes like LoL but i really dont see how scenes like Valorant or Fortnite are too developed. If youre good just grind lol
@@youngcitybandit wdym, you can get into any esport rn if your good you just have work hard
this guy is honestly speaking facts. I took my attempt at going pro with fortnite, placed top 50 in numerous world cup quals but then college happened. 6 Months after Valorant came out I started playing, hit immortal and plateaud. Now just going to focus on friends and college. Trust me boys, its not worth the isolation of grinding
sht man, its been two years but I've pretty much hit the same spot but with overwatch instead of other games. I don't think i realized just livin life was worth it.
it's even worse for you then since the overwatch league is pretty much dead so it's probably impossible to go pro in overwatch now@@aspect_ow
If you come from fortnite you're automatically bad at valorant
@@GiggleGallery69 major fornite pro called benjyfishy quit the game and hit radiant and is now pro in valorant. dont be a loser cos you dont like a game g, i dont like val but i can say it takes skill, dont get why players in other games seem to struggle admitting it too.
I play overwatch 2 and want to be a pro bc i want some self love and actually i want to feel i am important, i have no friends, no gf, probably no future, feel like i can be a pro is one of the only things that motivates me
I love how Plats think they can be pro and then there are Radiant who play for fun
If this comment gets 50 likes I'll make a video on why you SHOULD go pro
I would love a video on that
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For someone aspiring to go pro, I think the most important part of dedicating yourself to such a risk is understanding or at least acknowledging said risk. This video is pretty humbling because it confirms the beliefs that I already have, however I would argue that you should still push yourself to reach for the stars, because in my personal opinion I think that having a dream and not having the balls to reach for it is worse than knowing you tried your best and didn't make it. Overall though this is a great video keep em up.
ill see you in OWL
@@Eli-qu1km yessir all three of us baby!
nah add me in im gonna make it aswell
Have you made progress yet
@@Goku-dw7zxi think he clearly make his progress in to working at mcdonalds
As someone who's won, traveled, & coached professionally, this is a pretty accurate video. A few things to add is that each tier you level up in, the previous tier when playing or watching becomes effortless. If it isn't effortless there is a major red flag that needs to be addressed. Time put in, competency, fundamentals whatever the reason. It must be solved. Something to realize is the people who make it to the top of their respected pro scene solve these issues very quickly compared to others. Luck & good timing of course play a major factor into that, its not just some humans have better thumbs than someone else 😅. (ping hardware ect) IMO enjoying the process of finding mistakes is extremely important. Burn out shouldn't be an option. Fun, Passion should be fueling your desire to find mistakes. Then if you end up putting in enough time while networking. Congrats you did it :p You can compete. Prioritize things that will make you improve in large chunks quickly. Rather than things that are minor improvements. Shrink Large concepts down so you can retain info and make accurate choices. A lot of pros got pro just from friends picking them up and showing them the ropes within a few weeks. (not some super human talent..) Every game has clear fundamentals that pros will not mess up. So don't also mess them up :p Solve that answer and you will prolly jump up to the highest rank within a few weeks. Again its should be effortless.
To the second part. The money, as he mentioned. 95% of pros will not remain pro. All it takes is one weird roster change and people that are good enough get left behind. So your 3k a month paycheck or your 20k a month paycheck will fade away. Most of these people will not make it pro again. This isn't a people who are 28 years old are slow or stupid. Its life is to difficult to make that grind & time investment again. Humans will be pros in their 40s in our lifetime. But with the current infrastructure of esports, its easier for an org to pay someone whos 17 half the money. Then it is to pay someone whos in their late 20s or 30s who has a lot of life responsibilities and other priorities. (family ect) 99% of every pro player i know retired within 6 months-6 years. Most of them only last a 1-2 seasons until their networking falls off. (not a skill issue) The important thing to note is at some point you will have to transition into another job or sadly a different industry. 99% of people cannot make this a career. Again this isn't a skill issue! Its just such a new field compared to other sports it just takes time. (decades) So there isn't stability yet. For a different industry to give perspective. Think how different the UFC was 10/20 years ago. It takes a few decades and they still have lower level pros only making 10,000 a fight. fight 3 times a year if not injured, 50% of that goes to training management & taxes meaning Taco bell makes more $. But at least taco bell you could do it for 20 years :p. 🌮
Because of these factors the people who actually end up making it are crazy. Zero social skills, with massive egos, heck some of them are just evil 🤣. But its because its hard! No sane person actually pick this over a real career where they would make way more money and have a job for life. You pick this out of passion and love for competition. But treat it like any other sport you would do growing up. Play it, have fun, create something and or go to school. If on the side you can delay school to make some side money do it! Esports also has brought some amazing memories.
But never forget, If things were public nobody would be fans of anyone or any of org for that matter. Everyone is actually insane 🤣 The more moral you try to stand will only make your career that much shorter. If you're lucky and find a good teammate, team or org. Keep those life long friends and when you all go towards your next chapter in life you wont be doing it alone .
P.S. Hardware, Ping, Politics > Dedication, talent, or skill. The last 3 only matter when all things are equal.
Pretty much only way to become pro in gaming it's NOT ABOUT SKILLS but Invite only friends invite other friends to make momey...games don't take much skill , games are easy to get the hang of it....pretty much connections like everything in life is rigged
honestly theres a higher chance of becoming a youtuber than an esports pro that makes stable income especially with tiktok existing
@@lemonke5341 I could see that. Like mentioned before, if you have friends that are already competing or higher ranked to show the ropes. It only takes about 1-3 months of grinding to hit low level pro in most games. From the knowledge side of things. Some people might not be able to handle the mechanical demands of a game. But same thing for that. If you have someone to show you that as well. Only takes a few weeks to aim at a pro level (from a FPS pov) Where as TH-cam you don't need connections. If you have the idea and learn to edit its off to the races. Not really a competition either. If you have what it takes you'll make it.
so essentially, its very similar to the music industry :c
id say only difference is if you make good music, ppl will listen regardless, where as you can be top 10 or rank 1 in LoL and never go pro :P
I got this reality check about a year ago once I saw the amount of hours that pros play just in scrims.
21:09 Are you talking about combat arms? damn
but this video is great, I was very deluded at one point that I could become a fortnite pro and put an inane amount of hours trying
i miss CA, if i had the skill i have now i would be sooooo good i wish i was older when it was good 😂 nothing beats clan wars grave digger elim pro with a p90tr se
Kariyu ahhaahah wtf are you doing here? It is funny to see you under the video that not related with osu at all :D
@@aggroogre4857 he plays val aswell
Nah I swear I see you everywhere, everything I watch you seem to like holy
Even saw you in a Pan Piano comment section
@@rezi1x499 Dude appears on vtuber, osu and valorant videos. I used to hate seeing a dragonite in the comment section and now I don't mind it I think I have Stockholm Syndrome
no one:
Dogman: plz plz plz plz dont waste your time going pro.
sucks how much truths he's spelling though. yeah of course grind and all but also, be truly honest with yourself
@@henry3397 i mean...i never wanted to go pro lol
@@oak3785 the post wasn’t for you. It’s for all the kids reading your “top” post, so they don’t get discouraged. Which is all this video is trying to do
@@henry3397 oh ok, didnt even know it was a top comment lol. he made another video doing the opposite encouraging going into esports
you watch cold ones? love the cucumber joe shirt my king
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Great video! I'm a casual player but it's still really interesting to see just how difficult it is to make it as a pro player. It really makes you appreciate the grind and effort people put into going professional.
Very responsible video here that alot of people don’t talk about. Even I don’t want to hear this right now but it’s reality
Thank you for the insight Dogman. You covered a lot of what I had already suspected, but you also open up my eyes to even more things than I already knew. When I first started to play Overwatch, I did want to go pro as a player. However after years of playing in scrims and on ladder I have realized in 2019 (so after 3 years of playing Overwatch) I discovered that I enjoy coaching a whole lot more. Obviously looking at Overwatch being a 5 year old game, I probably won't go pro as a coach in Overwatch (or even Overwatch2 as the PVP and the pro scene will be similar if not the exact same as the current Overwatch pro scene) but maybe a game like Overwatch in the future.
My name is not jimmy but when he said "you are probably a 14 yr old kid who thinks he can go pro", that hit me hard
I've noticed that a lot of people underestimate the path to pro. I used to be in an esports team in high school playing CS. We were never god-tier, but we tried our best against other high schools. A lot of people wanted to get on board mainly because they liked the idea of playing games for cash and scholarships. 90% of them bailed within a few days simply because they couldn't put the time and effort into the game they chose.
I am pro-am rn in league competing in small tourneys few hundred bucks here and there and we train like 3-4 times a week and also have a full time job and just finished college. This guy sounds burned out i feel bad for him. Never stop trying obviously you don't dedicate your whole life on a game that's mental but if you feel like you wanna go pro go try!
All I’m going to say is you have no chance of going PRO at gaming unless you’re playing 8 hours plus daily. Competing in a few hundred bucks tournaments is only the start of a long journey.
@@TheTurtletaco123 I guess it can be different for some games but this is 100% not the case, or at least not always. If you play for the sake of playing then yeah, sure, you might have to put those hours in daily if not more. But there's smart practice too. If you know how to get the most out of your time you can definitely become a top level player while working one or two hours a day on it.
Practice the mechanical skills in training modes until you are perfectly consistent with them. Learn all the game sense, game theory by watching the professional players, match analysis, professional guides and so on. Apply them in normal matches and all that is left for you is to watch a replay of your own games and analyze every interaction that goes on. What are you doing wrong? What habits and patterns do you have? What are your strengths? Write all of this in a notebook or somewhere and keep track of this, and think potential solutions or fixes to your mistakes, or watch other pro players play a similar situation and take note on what they do.
Now, for your next games, your main goal should not be to win that game, it should be to apply what you have learned. Fix that habit or pattern you have. Make the right decision in that one situation where you previously committed a mistake. NEVER play a game for the sake of just playing (unless you just want to have fun, of course). But if you're looking to improve, ALWAYS play with objectives in your mind and a gameplan that is superior to the one you're executing right now. You'll skyrocket your level really fast if you do this, I promise.
Before you say anything, I play professionally in Smash (although not worldwide top level, but I'm ranked top 15 in my country, and notable in Europe too, I've won tournament sets before against some of the very best players in the world). I barely play the game. Only 1k hours since the game launched 5 years ago; and I know of many professional players like this, too. Light, ranked top 6 in the world, has only 1.5k hours at the game since it launched. Dabuz, who was ranked 12th in the previous season, is the one that went really deep into Smart Practice and released a big guide on his training methods and how to apply all of this stuff, and why it works. We have Big D, a player ranked 19th in the last season that has a full time job and a family with kids to take care of. He literally doesn't have the time to play videogames more than a couple hours and he made it pro. There's even a professional player who used to be ranked 10th in the world (he's not competting anymore) WHO DIDN'T EVEN OWN THE GAME. He just played it in tournaments or in friend's houses.
There's even a Melee player, called lloD, that works full time as a doctor and he's winning super majors of what is likely to be the most complex and hardest game competitively when it comes to mechanical skill (if Starcraft 2 isn't ahead).
Make the best out of your time and you can make it pro without playing 8 hours a day. It's written on history, not only in Smash btw, even though I used it as an example because it's the game I have the most knowledge about.
Another huge thing abt going pro is whether or not u mentally can handle it and if you want to do it. You see it so many times where these mechanical gods go pro and retire after like a season or two to go stream or whatnot. Not everybody has the willpower and competitive level to play at the highest level and do everything to keep yourself at the top
Why would anyone want to be pro? Streamers have way more money and fame
@@henry3397 not everybody cares abt the money the fame and clout. Some people are true competitors that only care abt competing and winning.
@@jonasriedel1324 in that case I would argue it is 100% not worth the sacrifice. To destroy your health, social life, and prime of your life chasing competition where you might only be successful for a handful of years? One of the worst trades in any sport.
@@jonasriedel1324 what needs a change is the competitive scene. Pros should be making WAY more money than streamers. It should be enticing to want to be one. With the current scene it isn’t at all, that’s why most drop out to stream
@@henry3397 yes I completely agree with you. That’s how it is in every other major esport. Ow just doesn’t wanna put money into their esports because their upper management is run by a bunch of dudes flexing they had windows 98 and don’t know anything abt esports. Unlooky
thank you for that video. i didnt think i was gonna be pro one time but your video and reading some comments changed my mind in a more substanital way and changed how i feel about competing in general for the better
Super staring me in the face, almost as if he were the gatekeeper to pro OW.
dude the only gatekeeper is see is space.
First time I ever played an fps game was OW...got placed in mid bronze. I climbed my way all the way to top 25 over a year and a half playing around 2 hours a day. But I was only at that peak for a few weeks and then went back down to around low gm. I eventually stopped playing but the one thing I have learnt from it is how big the difference between consistent top 50 players, and players like myself that can get there from time to time. The difference is immense. I have played against so many pro players and even tho they were in my games it was a world of difference. Even if you are t500 or the equivalent for that in other games, you prob need to be a very consistent, high ranking t500 to even stand out from the crowd. And yes it's weird thinking about t500 as a crowd....but it is.
This is very true. I'm top 50 in Overwatch and have the same thing. These guys are playing in World Cup, signed contracts to teams with professional coaching. I think the difference is time and habits. Everyone has 5x my time played and has a deep understanding of how things work that I lack. If OW had a thriving eSports scene, I think I would try for pro, but unfortunately I don't think it's possible now. It has always been my dream to be a pro or a coach so that's unfortunate :(
@@yippeeyip4764 same lol. Hard to compete with guys training 8 hours a day when you only got an hour or two at best after school
I’m not sure how long you’ve had this channel. Just wanted to let you know that I love the content my guy! Keep it comin
Thank you for the video. Was a good reality check for a lot of players tbh.
This man is REAL AS FK about this! I was a league player, hardstuck silver, but I had that stuck dream of being hokage man, and then one day BOOM PLAT. Then Diamond in a week, then Challenger immediately after. From HARDSTUCK LEGIT SILVER LOL. Then I was boosting and LCS was getting big, I decided oh man I make more boosting than LCS would, no thanks pro play! Then, I moved over to another moba on release. I was ofc one of the top 10 players in the game, I played professionally, and let me tell you I gave up everything, literally everything, and while I was on the journey I watched people drop like flies. I watched them lose themselves, or sacrifice everything and still not even come up close. The sad part is, while I outpaced them, I could see they couldn't make it. IDK what it was, man, but you could see it required way more than just skill to be a pro player. I think you can see it in other pros, too, like you can just tell when they got that sauce. I cannot stress this enough, though, I have seen scandals, crimes, mental fucking breakdowns, drama out the ass about nothing at all JUST to mentally fatigue people, it is a wild west of a creative and analytical space. A lot of people are financially well off or supported by others during this time, too, while you "cook" and hope to make it. And when I finally stopped you know what I felt? I felt fucking FREE, FREE AF from the grind. A basic normie job was easy, I became a manager or director at places with ease. A director at a medical company was 10x easier and not even as stressful as esports was, man. And sometimes I still dream of going back, or trying, or even just having fun and climbing games to random top 10 on leaderboards for shits and giggles. That's the thing, even with me gone from it, I still have that inherent magnetic drive and I believe that, whatever that secret sauce is in my little reptile brain, is why I was able to make it at all.
Pro gaming is a dream and like most dreams, you have to be really careful about the grass seeming greener on the other side! I dont regret my time at all, in fact I find it was a blast of adventure and travel, but holy shit was it basically a lifestyle. And having a partner through it was a nightmare, a true nightmare, and I don't even know how doable it really is to juggle both tbh.
You're a real g for talking about living conditions, too! I had my share of couch surfing, or living while boosting on the FLOOR in a 6x6 space with my monitor on top of my tower and my mouse on my thigh! It's a struggle, a true struggle and endurance test, to get anywhere and those survival conditions make it even harder because it does, eventually, become do, die, or give up. The funny part, too, is after you are done like 99% of the community outside of the pro scene isn't going to know you, remember you, or will just meme you're washed afterwards.
I think the best way to approach your dream of becoming a pro is to set goals, and reach them one at a time. For example, don’t be a Silver/Gold and have a goal of “I want to be a pro”. That can be your long-term goal, but set more realistic ones for the time being. So let’s say you’re Silver and your goal is to reach Plat by X amount of time. Then once you’re Plat, you want to be Diamond by X amount of time. And keep going until you hit the higher ranks, and that’s when the grind to become a pro begins.
I think there are a lot of factors to success. Living situation, people supporting you, mental attitude, pure belief in yourself, IQ, health and well-being, management of emotions, ability to learn and adapt, constant improvement in the game, self awareness… To name a couple, Mike Tyson and Cristiano Rolando are good examples of people who have possessed these qualities in their prime. The list goes on…
You're so brainwashed by success and society haha no offense, but it's modern slavery
Giving into emotion and losing full control without destroying yourself is the what you want
One of the best videos I've watched in a long time, thanks for this.
I started high plat on overwatch but to be fair I'm a GB/scrim player on cod so the only jumps I had to make were game sense. For anyone trying to improve practice your aim daily and work on your positioning, as you progress higher movement will be come more important especially at the highest level of play!
I told this all the time to my friends who have this “pro player” dream, you simply cannot become a pro player with effort alone, you would need to be gifted. After thousands of hours in Csgo and valorant, and seeing my friends who are ESEA rank G and faceit lvl 10 grinding everyday and stucked for years, I understand that most people are simply never going to become a pro player.
Me a bronze: let's see where I get in a few years
Getting out of low rank isn’t really hard, when I started Valorant, the first act I started in, I was hard stuck iron 1, then the next act I hit bronze 2 and even 3. As I play more and more and did some aim training everyday. I’m currently silver 2-3. So for average, I rank up once per 1-2 acts with decent aim training
@@shinefake48 I’m the same way, I’m also just good at developing game sense really quickly too because I come from R6 Siege to Valorant. I don’t think I could go pro but that doesn’t stop me from trying to be as good as I can be. If I end up somehow becoming a pro then great but I’m not gonna bet the farm to do it.
@@shinefake48 same, except that i started in beta as iron 2 and got plat in 2 months, was stuck in plat for 2 months then stopped playing for a few months, when i came back i got immortal in 3 months and now im still immo
@@ivan2862 how to rank up fast tho, Valorant is my first FPS game, only started FPS gaming when Valorant act 2 got around. Before tat I was only a indie games player. And I pretty much played and hit silver and now I’m like bottlenecked
@@shinefake48 idk i just played kovaak and comp bc there was no dm back then but now i mostly play dm and rarely kovaak
Thank you for the insight as some of the stuff you talked about is how I am wxactly at this moment about going pro in valorant and I am currently diamond but peaked in ascendant and just trying to get back there to start with
I love the way you presented this. I think the term for the mental trap you mentioned is called the sunk cost fallacy.
"You may potentially waste your life" I definitely agree, but it's also a matter of perspective. I think the key is shifting your viewpoint from "I want to be a pro" to "I want to be the best that I can be". This mindset still drives the competitive aspect, but it also widens it to include a more general self improvement goal. I'm never going to be pro in Overwatch, but I truly enjoy grinding it and trying to become better. I did the same thing that with Rocket League and I don't regret it at all, because I had a blast getting "good" at that game. Although back then I did have illusions of potentially going pro one day, except I balanced that with getting a college degree and then afterwards a full time job so I never really went "all in" on that.
Im trying really hard to go pro, but even if it doesnt happens I still enjoyed it soo much and dont lose anything with it anyway. I learned so much about myself and others, what’s important and what isn’t and setting priorities. I’ll prolly keep trying and learning untill I physically cant ahaha
HOWS IT GOING
@@that.one.r3shiiiet man im working at mcdonalds right neow terveisin fallout350
What game and how’s it going
@@score2003 like i typed before it went bad and im working at mcdonalds terveisin fallout350
Just got recommended this despite it being up for over 2 years but I am glad I found this because I have been struggling with deciding whether to pursue content creation or professional play I am 14 and I got a few subs from 11-12 on Roblox then switched to valorant currently playing daily with a team and I am immortal 3 top 3k. I am going to be using this video as a checkpoint to see how much progress I have made each year/ update this comment. Glad I found this video
This is true for anything in life when you aspire to be the best in the world.
As a co-owner of a business that's aspiring to be a world leader in dairy genetics and someone that will probably never going out of Plat tank & gold DPS, the amount of sacrifices to be at the top, on the personnal level and the financial risks you have to take.
Great that you're showing what it take to make it to the top.
I will try very hard. I’m a 15 year old t500 MT player. Recently moved from Xbox to pc. I’m level 100 already on pc and am currently 4300. Wish me luck!
Most people really cannot detach themselves from their ego, that’s why the average rank of about gold-plat in most games is as far as a lot of people will make it even with 10k hours.
I’ve seen more than one person now with thousands upon thousands of hours hard stuck in their rank because whenever they lose/die it’s anybody or anything’s fault but their own.
i was t3 pro in fort. came back from a 2 year comp/fort break and hit elite np. every game i play im above avg at with little time. this showed me that i can do it again. just need to actually play more
I think it just just depends on what situation you grew up in. Pros usually have an access to a pc at a very young age and have parents that let them play all day. That boils down to a few people or you're just some god that has insane natural talent.
Yep. Koreans are really good because gaming is engraved into their current culture so much that gamers are basically celebrities over there. Shroud's dad let him grind counter strike and even introduced him to it when he was really young. I believe that people can be insanely good at videogames, or anything for that matter, if they start out really young and if you don't start at that stage in your life the only thing that can save you afterwards is raw talent. If you are grown up and weren't born with the talent you are wasting your time.
@@royalvarez24 I’ve been playing my entire life and I master every game like shroud, but ping is my disadvantage, $6K Pc 40,000 hours of gaming mastered controller normally and on claw and mastered kbm while holding it as a claw hardware is a huge factor, those Koreans not only have PCs anyone can have a pc of course it’s having the 0-10 ping that’s the real advantage I’d rather be on a ps5 120fps on 0ping in fortnite then be on my pc with 60-80+ ping, my reaction time is still 140-150 range I mainly play CSGO now but if there’s a game you can go pro in plz tell me id master it of course I haven’t mastered CSGO with tacticals but I’ve mastered the gun skill, also when I tried low ping at my friends house (he doesn’t play games btw) I noticed that it’s a lot easier to play the game and this is why so many people make it bc they got they low ping, it’s like playing against noobs? It’s so easy with low ping
@@FaZe-StyL hold up... youre complaining about 60-80+ ping? nigga hang the controller you are not good
@@FaZe-StyL are you fr StyL 💀
@@FaZe-StyL cope
Solid point made on this video. I played valorant for about 2 months after its release, made it to radiant by grinding. All i can say is, even if u were the top 1 radiant in the world, it doesnt matter as long as you're not consistent and you're not learning and improving after every game u play. In pro level, there's no peak, its an endless elevation of improving and becoming better and consistent after every game you play.
Ill come back to this video. but ive been dealing with a bunch of personal issues and i do work. on my free time i started grinding and just want to improve. its just a pain sometimes, i just really want to prove to myself that i did it. i did something im passionate for. i dont care about the money or the good benefits you get. i just want to prove to myself that i can do it.
I competed in Overwatch too, in the really early Gosugamer days, thought I was hot shit on some top 20 NA teams then I played real pros for the first time, Cloud9 in like round 3 of one of the gosugamer weeklies and they beat us in 9 minutes. The entire series took them 9 minutes, thats when I realized OW was going to be a for fun game for me lmao.
"oh im STUCK in silver for like uhhh.. uhh a week"
I was stuck in silver for like 3 years
But still you can rank up to gold nova and stuck for like 3 more years. Like me 🙃
@@ksya473 went from silver elite to gold nova 3 in like 2 weeks so idk man i only have like 200h
@@ksya473 I'm hard stuck nova 2 but average 11 rws in B+ esea. cs ranking system is busted af
Realist advice I've ever heard, I will never be a professional player in any game. Thank you!
just came back, My yt channel has grown and my placements in fortnite tournaments are in the top 0.1% | Making progress, I can do this ngl...
wtf
@@methodically good job my friend
@@methodically Hopefully the next time you come back we can hear sth like you playing international tournaments level. I don't play Fortnite but wish you the best man
i loved the idea for a long time, i practiced a few different fighting games for countless hours, but that's just not what video games are to me anymore. i used to be a super competitive person and i loved the thrill of victory and failure being at stake. but i feel like i view video games more as an art form now than a catalyst to show my skills. i do think i *could* have gotten good enough, most anyone could, but i believe the quest to become the greatest player isn't the process i would find most fulfilling in my enjoyment of the medium. also it's hard for me to stick with one game long enough to compete on the pro stage.
Started off in CSGO when I was 14, got to LE
Grinded to Diamond in Overwatch
To Plat 3 in R6 Siege
Diamond in Apex Legends
Grand Champion in Rocket League
Immortal III in Valorant
As someone who doesnt really have a passion for anything else, being 23 now, I cant tell you how frustrating its been to have always been stuck at 'not enough'.
And I am currently at the age and lifestyle where I just dont see myself doing any game professionally anymore, which is just pain
I liked the vid dude. straight to the point and can be used as a reality check for people who have blind hope/need that last push to decide if they want to pursue or not.
Wassup bro
I KEEP SEEING YOU EVERYWHERE LMAOO
@@qakze OMG OMAR AGAIN 😭😭😭
FIRST ON TWITTER NOW HERE
The reason why so many pro players in Overwatch (and other games) are so young is not because they have an advantage because of reaction time or anything like that. It's because if you're in high school you have so much more time to play.
When you are older you have to seriously consider your future (college, work). That is why you don't see people at 25+ enter into OWL.
I'm unemployed and have all the time in the world and will never WILL NEVER NEVER NEVER be good enough to be a pro
Yeah young people are very naive and motivated to sit down and game all day. It's certainly possible to go pro at 25+, but it's much harder because you're more wise, have less time, and more grounded with reality
Omg that video was a masterpiece thank you
I really respect this so much I understand what he is saying and he is giving the ugly truth but at the same time I believe in myself and maybe I don’t become pro but I can stream and get money from that to help support my grind and ya there is multiple ways to help support the grind but I’m saying this and I’m 16 and I can pump resources into trying to be pro but personally I’m putting all my eggs in one basket I’m doing this by trying to be really good at overwatch and get connections in overwatch and keep scrimming on overwatch everyday while doing ladder everyday and just trying to improve myself as a player cause even though I’m ok/decent I can always improve cause I make a lot of mistakes personally and right now I’m taking coaching and that’s helping a lot. I’m kinda waiting for overwatch 2 and hopefully the scene re opens and I have an opportunity then so I’m not trying to join a team in this year and a half I’m trying to improve as much as possible so I can have a chance when overwatch 2 gets released. But what do I know I’m a dumb 16 year old with the ambition to grind, so I’m asking what are your guys thoughts on my plan btw who ever really believes in themselves and has no doubt you can make it I say try and do your best, but know when it’s to late or u can’t anymore.
how did it go
dont listen to this guy, never give up, you gonna get a cozy 2 years pro carzer then switch to streaming for eazy money, you are the new xqc, millions of dollars waiting for you, you can do it
Man I think ur right. I just dropped all my classes, quit my job, and maxed out my credit cards on pro level gaming/streaming rig. It’ll all be worth it when I get that first pro gamer salary. It’s so easy I don’t understand why more people don’t do this.
@@Haywood-Jablomi true you got that sigma grindset
sigma@@Haywood-Jablomi
for some reason, this gave me more confidence.
Agree with most, except with the It harder the longer it goes, now yes initial release will always be higher then something down the line. But after the intial everything will stay constant, because the vets, they will leave eventually, and teams will look for new prospects.
i want that 100$ mark my words, ima make it.
if your watching this like 2 years from now like this so i can come back
Swing life away if you want, but be realistic about it and do your best to not be a burden.
a very realistic video, I loved playing fps games and still love them, but I didn't have the motivation entering high school to continue that improvement, I just plateued. Hell go take a reaction time test if you want a dream crusher lol
the carter_ow shoutout, a true og
I was on the path to going pro in cs but had a major philosophical revelation followed up by a ton of life experiences a lot of people won't unfortunately ever have the opportunity to experience. In the end, games are games and to quote greatest chess master of his era Paul Morphy ''The ability to play chess is the sign of a gentleman. The ability to play chess well is the sign of a wasted life"
Before I even watch this video... my thoughts on the subject:
1: if your just talented you should dominate mechanically with just the basics and climb to the higest* elo in the game of choice
2: your not just talented so you have to put in the hours to not only play but vod review to teach yourself watch pro POVs and not only be improving but climbing to the higest* elo possible so you can start playing against the “best”
This basically how I see it^
Edit:
Not to mention the fact you have to grind even if you do make it to be pro.
I still remember when I was 6 years old playing 1.6 on a basic dell computer!! I'm 25 now but I wish I could go back in time and grind all those years to became a pro / streamer. All those years gon to waste 😭
I guess also it's like anything in life, if you're naturally good at it then you'll end up doing it. If it's something you have to work/grind at to be good at it, you naturally will end up doing the opposite meaning something else.
I just like playing video games so its not a "waste" for those who likes their things right? Its about the mind set
This mans doesn’t make money from gaming. He just puts 10 ads in his video
Honestly there's so much talent out there these days, it is now harder than ever to go pro at most genres of video games. Even things like skateboarding have been pushed to crazy heights in 2023, it is now like 10x harder to get sponsored. There are kids that are in middle school (age 10-13) hitting global elite within a year because they grew up watching their slightly above average older brother play and these little kids have the crazy ability to just hyper focus and take heads.
Hard work helps, but ultimately the right collection of genes and persistence will get you there sooner than most people. (how well you deal with stress, how easily you can focus, your IQ, your vision, your reflexes, your dexterity, your skills acquired before playing CSGO, so many compounding factors)
I began playing competitive gaming since early 2006 (Perfect Dark Zero) & did manage to be a decent player
The OG Gears of War is what made me that cocky SOB (2006-2010)
Rarely had a losing streak & always being high on the match leaderboards
In 2016 I had a 7-8 month run where I did bested 8/10 of the random player base & did manage to join a small clan
In 2017 I managed to get an ONYX 3 rank in GEARS 4 & almost getting that DIAMOND 1/5
It's been over a year since I watched this video, a hardstuck gold overwatch player. But those 100$ motivated me, and now I just got to masters and will join an open division team.
Edit: I don't know if anyone will see this, but i hit top 500 today. Sooooo, be prepared to give me that money.
Im stuck in like high masters low gm for a year now. But ranked isn't that important because I went from scrimmong at 3.9k lvl to scrimming at 4.2-3k lvl. Still ich can't get to top 500. And I'm only 15 so I still have time...
Ranked is an entirely different game to pugs
It is funny that in 4.2 scrims most of the players are just masters. The "scrim rank has just gotten higher over the years because teams are trying to get a bit better opponents than themselves. I have played 4.4 scrims and that was mostly low gm players
@@skyto9233 true im also in a team that scrims 4.4k rn but they are all 4.2k at max
If you’re thinking about going pro listen to this guy for real. I didn’t work hard enough and I didn’t have a plan B, and I told myself if I didn’t make it pro I’d just log out irl. Didn’t make it pro, and the time came, but couldn’t do that to my family. So now I’m stuck at a shit job with no degree. I’m glad I chased my dream, I just wished I would’ve done it better.
How much you make a year and what job you have?
As someone whose the been the highest rank possible in ow cod and paladins. Having played against pros in all 3 I can fully say theres a HUGE difference between a pro and a topped rank normal player
Ok, I’m going to remember the 100 dolars
Radiant player btw and still questioning myself after this video lol
I’m silver and I know I’ll make it
@@LOL-tm7ek lmao good luck bro I'll believe in you
terrance bland idk how you wanna take this but imma help you out. I was a radiant player over about every act, and peaked top 20. I was a dumb person and did a ton of dumb stuff which led me to getting "cancelled" on twitter. This was the best thing that has happened to me. Because of this no teams would want me which led me to quitting valorant. Ever since I stopped playing religiously i've never been happier or healthier. I still play the game for fun here and there but grinding to go pro is more draining then youll ever realize till you quit the grind. Do it early even if you think you are close you are further away then you can realize.
I played this game vainglory a lot because it was how I played with my friend. I played it enough to improve a decent amount and my friends and I got to what would be considered masterish rank. I remember being up there and queuing against people who had been on the pro teams. I felt like a bronze player they were that much better then me. The skill gap even at the top is significant.
I wish the game came back. I reached pinnacle of awesomeness or some shit I think tier 9, and would also q against pros and semi pros a fair amount. No game like it to this day….
My brother was on a semipro Dota 2 team in 2010. He got drunk and forgot to go to a practice game and was removed from the roster. Once you make it you can fall off super fast too.
ok Mr. Bowerman, I accept your bet that if I become a pro, you pay me $100. remember this when I become pro.
Edit: ok maybe after watching the video, I'm not 100% sure that I will become pro, because I'm pretty average rn. but if I ever do become pro, remember this comment
Depends on your age. If you're already 18 and older and playing at an average level, you're not making it at all
@@stayedleopard4 yeah of course. I'm 15 now, so I believe I still have a chance. I'm currently plat/gold in overwatch, but peaked 3100 for a month in tank
I'm 13 peaked 2900 on support so ik I have time so I'm kinda hyped as long as I can keep up with school
@@frostydog5645 yeah, honestly it’s having to keep up with school and games at the same time
@@thetecmachine2012 I’m 14 and I peaked 3681 after not playing for like 3 months
Yeah no way I'm mechanically gifted enough to become pro. I reached global in csgo, but anyone can get there since nobody plays mm anymore. I peaked immortal in valorant but just got tired of playing rank because it felt way too much of a chore and I didn't have fun anymore plus I'm trash.
Now I'm switched it up and grinding in the ccg game shadowverse. Perfect game for me since you don't need to be mechanically gifted. There's monthly open qualifiers in my region where I could get a shot at qualifying for the million dollar grand prix but I fail to even make it to the top 16 playoffs of the qualifiers. There's still more open qualifiers going on so I still have a chance to qualify.
I was on the path of being competitive in cs but I decided to rather have fun with my wife playing games more casually. Won a few tournaments in cs, also I'm checking out this video cuz it popped up and it's an interesting topic. I usually thrive in mechanically demanding games - cs, r6, shooters with some additional skill expression like movement. I suck at league tbh. OW is kind of a miss as I grew up playing cs 1.6 css and csgo afterwards and ow takes more strategy
Ama show this to my kid in the future if they ever want to go pro
Oh damn this video is 2 years old and i just got recommended this. But yea I fully agree with every point you said and I went through the same thing at 19 because I was GC in RL wanting to be pro and saw how difficult and how high the skill gap was. Was also kicked out of the house at that time which is why I don’t respect most people’s opinions who haven’t attempted to be in the pro scene. I’ve been semi pro in cs, been on a team for RL, and currently just a good valorant player, yet I realize the time to become a pro has passed for me simply because I’m 23. The time commitment it takes to go to the next level no one understands how insane that is and how much you throw away relationships with others. Really good video and I understand fully why you made this.
I can relate to this with fortnite (sadly). I'm 18, been playing since 14, and had good hopes of being up there in the scene as I had racked up a good 3k hours in the game. However when I recently discovered the sheer amount of hours the pros my age have put in to say solely aim training, it goes in the thousands, just AIM TRAINING. And that 3k hours that I've played has felt like a lifetime to me, which is nothing compared to the T3 pros in the scene which all have minimum 10k+ hours on the game. This was my experience in my game
I do combat sports and I dedicated my life to it, even if I don’t turn out pro I’ll take my last breath trying to get where I want to be… and as someone who does this, I know how important the mind and mindset is, I know it’s not a big deal for you, but your telling 1000’s of kids that they are probably not going to be a pro gamer, if your not a strong person this can completely destroy your dreams, feed them with positivity and I’m sure atleast 5 people watching this video will turn pro later on, I have no interest in being pro gamer whatsoever… but I don’t support your way of letting these people know they can’t go pro, if an individual watching this video is going to take every minute of their time and I mean literally destroying yourself for the sole purpose of being what you want to be, there is nothing that can stop you, nothing, because it’s a law, it has no choice but to come true.
If u dedicate ur life to it no matter what it is you will improve anyone can become pro few people put in the effort that is necessary
You have a point but we’re speaking about games and not actual sport here so it’s much better if kids put that hours in something else then pressing buttons while sitting in a chair and I’m saying this as someone who is absolutely addicted to Mortal Kombat since 6 months😅
Dustin, I'm gonna leave this comment here so when I get my $100 I can buy a huge ass sign to say "told you so".
Thanks for warning me about wasting my time but im gonna continue trying because i have a list of people i want to prove wrong.
Funny this video popped up for me. I could have went pro in Halo many years ago. I'm really glad that I didn't. I'm far more financially stable now with a promising future than I ever could have been, even if I would have been a top 10 pro player.
when you are in silver and he says your just playing for fun and you trying in ov and your in silver):
Bruh💀
Well at least you could make it as a streamer, there you just have to be entertaining, and you'll probably end up making more cash than some pros
I am raidiant in Val and I was about to start looking for teams but that part where u said u can only play professional for a few years and only get that salary for a few years crushed me but ig thats life
content creation is the best thing for gaming and making a steady and long term income but one of the best ways for exposure is being a professional
This goes for anything in life
I don’t think so, professional in sports or gaming is much different from professionals in something like biology or forensics especially since the first one is a lot more rare and harder to make a living off of
Challenge accepted :D
King attitude
champion mindset
Update?
great vid idea mr bowerman
this marks the day i was here, in a few years ur gonna be giving me my 100
just putting this here so in a month I can collect $100
omg is that the valorant god pab?
@@user-zd7gv6kr3i POG the real funny bunny absolutely cracked little kid
@@kouhai_ yep bro cracked out of my mind
@Techniiq ONE MORE MONTH TRUST
@@kouhai_ why am i not hearing about you, you gotta step up pab.
In summary: Go to college, dont waste your time.
Very late comment. I had the chance to make a step towards becoming a professional counter strike player a couple years ago. I got asked if i wanted to play for a Division 3 team, probably helped that i knew the guy who started the the team. Problem was that in my country you pretty much can't make a living off of being a professional player unless you and your team manage to go International. And i already had a stable job with good income and i didn't want to sacrifice it. Anyway, that team now got into Division 1 this year and are beating teams and giving them a good fight when they loose. Total prize pool is about 16 000 dollars.
The guy who invited me still thinks i probably would have made it and still thinks im quite good. But i also have no regrets that i said no thanks to joining back then.
I just play casually, learning things as i play. But lately my aim has been falling off... probably because of my newfound MMORPG addiction. Or because im getting old :P
Good video, Mr. Bowerman.
Ok change of goal, I'm not going pro im going to get better
Same