Newsflash! You Killed Me - One Amazing Scene

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  • @ClownPuncher139
    @ClownPuncher139  2 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    Alright, I’ve gotten enough comments about this: I know Origins Batman is played by Roger Craig Smith, not Kevin Conroy. I’m an idiot, but I’m not that stupid. I put it there to show the difference in intensity the two were giving in their deliveries. Smith was gruff and incredibly aggressive, like Conroy’s Batman in the first 2 games. So I used it to show how different Batman was in every game except Knight, where he was very monotone for most of the game. And of course to just give Smith more credit for being a fantastic and incredibly under appreciated Batman. So you can stop commenting that now, I’m well aware of what I did!

    • @theinsurance2450
      @theinsurance2450 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi there. I would like to disagree with you on the video when you said the reasons Batman doesn't want to k*ll is because he thinks they can be reformed. I don't believe that is the reason. In Batman: Arkham Asylum Batman has a talk with Dr. Young. She said that Quincy Sharp was trying to cure the Joker. (You know, reform him). Batman then says that would hurt his campaign for mayor. If Batman truly believes all criminals could be reformed. He wouldn't have said that. I think the real reason he doesn't kill is because he is afraid that if he does, he will go too far. The series supports this. Every person who started with noble intentions uses extreme methods like killing. They go too far and become criminals, if not evil. Harvey Dent Two-Face, Hugo Strange, Ra's al Ghul, and Jason Todd Arkham Knight. They all had noble intentions but have gone too far and lost prospective. Becoming evil themselves or doing evil things. And it all started when they decided to kill. Just like Superman, Batman puts limits on himself so he doesn't go too far. He doesn't lose perspective. He saw what happens to police in origin who take the easy way out. They become corrupted. That's why Gordon says after Batman beats the Joker at the end of Origins. "Any of my guys would have killed him." Batman says,"This city deserves better than that. " That Batman won't take the easy way out and become corrupted like them.

    • @tfordham13
      @tfordham13 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey technically you don't have to kill the hostage or penguin

    • @M.I-L.K
      @M.I-L.K ปีที่แล้ว

      Im into femman

    • @charlielevick
      @charlielevick 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      watching this gave me an idea for you, a stream finding every piece joker dialogue in arkham knight

  • @SplendidSuperman122
    @SplendidSuperman122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1937

    Notice how Joker will look healthier after each fear toxin exposure. At first his face is all red and then back in the van his face is completely normal.

    • @CianMurphy_89
      @CianMurphy_89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Very true

    • @StudMacher78
      @StudMacher78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      I think that’s cause Batman’s slowly losing control of what real and not

    • @ndjoker34
      @ndjoker34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Great attention to detail.

    • @mxghty0
      @mxghty0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      @@StudMacher78 it's because each time batman takes in fear toxin the joker in him is practically enhanced. it's referenced multiple times that batman loses more control and the joker gets stronger as he moves on.

    • @andrewlufc
      @andrewlufc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just shows how joker was getting stronger and batman was so close to making that first kill

  • @namanwalia5773
    @namanwalia5773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +465

    3:35 "Maybe its"- said by Kevin Conroy "already happened."- said by Mark Hamill shows the transition between batman into joker . So subtle yet effective.

    • @princeojr3382
      @princeojr3382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      It’s mad creepy too

    • @Tservator
      @Tservator ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow you have great hearing

    • @ultrabigfella
      @ultrabigfella ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I really hate how a lot of the lines like this got cut.
      Mark did a ton of Batman lines, and Kevin did a ton of Joker lines, but they barely used them.
      You can still find some in the files.

    • @TippedScale
      @TippedScale 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Tservatorwait, really!?

    • @Tservator
      @Tservator 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @bloodhoundo9320 what? I just didnt realize that the voice changed

  • @Frogman1212
    @Frogman1212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    If good Joker lines were dolla bills, rocksteady writers would be trillionaires.

    • @burner3185
      @burner3185 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They’d use pounds since they’re English

    • @austinestep8461
      @austinestep8461 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@burner3185 then they’d have a lot of converting to do

  • @BlueSpams
    @BlueSpams 3 ปีที่แล้ว +569

    I’m so glad you bring up your point in 7:40. First playing the game, I couldn’t help but notice that Batman sounds exhausted a lot of the time, and most people I heard would say that Conroy’s performance was wooden and lazy in this game. But like, I always felt like Batman was intended to sound like this. For a long while, his heart actually isn’t in what he’s doing. Batman is just…done. He’s worn down and depressed, of course he isn’t going to sound the same.

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Exactly.
      There’s so much depth in the nuance, but people glance over it while accusing it off being what they are, which is lazy

    • @TheAuNinja2
      @TheAuNinja2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      You can see it in Arkham City: Harley Quinn's Revenge, too. I remember when I first played it, I thought that Batman sounded like he was broken on the inside. Like he had lost something, or someone, important to him. He sounds nothing like how he sounded throughout Arkham City, and it shows.

    • @jacobhargiss3839
      @jacobhargiss3839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I 5hink this is also backed up by the fact that many in his rouges gallery point out that hes getting old and tired. Even catwoman makes a remark on it.

    • @crazydud3380
      @crazydud3380 ปีที่แล้ว

      Accurate. He was similar in Harley Quinn's Revenge, so this is just a continuation of that arc.

  • @cjgg4885
    @cjgg4885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1109

    It pisses me off that the scene in the elevator is just rubbed off as a flaw by some because "BUtttt BatMan, U diDnt aKTuaLly kIlL tHE JoKer". Yes, everyone knows that, hell Alfred, Barbra, Robin, Nightwing and Gordon probably kept trying to console Bruce after City and tell him that it was Jokers own fault for his death. But the brain does a pretty damn good job on making you blame yourself for bad situations, even when everything points to it not being your fault.
    When I was bullied in school and nothing was done to stop me from being bullied I constantly blamed myself for nothing being done, even though I did literally everything I was told to do when I was getting harrassed. I had to get constantly reminded by my mom that it was the fault of the shite faculty for doing nothing, not me for being a victim of bullies.
    Now imagine instead of just an autistic kid being bullied for a few years it's instead an adult who is a decade in on fighting super criminals that constantly destroy what little sanity he has left, nearly breaking his one code of no killing and practically gaslighting himself into thinking he broke that code. It basically comes from a place of privilege or lack of self awareness to think that scene isn't fucking masterful in its depiction of blaming oneself for something they didn't do.

    • @rodrickkyoya309
      @rodrickkyoya309 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Man good point

    • @Nickdabom8
      @Nickdabom8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Can I heart this too?? This is truly inspirational

    • @jacobvalerio5290
      @jacobvalerio5290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Well said, Batman constantly blames himself for everything

    • @scalycoronet5198
      @scalycoronet5198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I struggle so much with that, I was bullied a lot too and blamed myself for everything. It was nasty, too, being told go kill myself and stuff like that. Stay strong, man. Stay strong

    • @lTSVlBE
      @lTSVlBE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yea, this is basically Batman’s brain trying to blame him for jokers death

  • @senthesanguinesinner9
    @senthesanguinesinner9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    One thing I’d love to bring up is that the Joker in Batman’s head could only know things Batman knows. The disease making him more like Joker isn’t a full on conscience transfer. It just makes them act like a Joker version of themselves. Like when Harry is talking about evolution, because he’s a professor.
    So why is the Joker in Batman’s head the most accurate? Simple. Batman knew the Joker better than anyone. So it stands to reason that not only is Joker truly the opposite of Batman, but also that every twisted thing Joker says is a comedic version of a thought Batman himself has thought.

  • @MinecraftJimmy7951
    @MinecraftJimmy7951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    Fun fact about the crime alley fight. Apparently there’s an over looked Easter egg in it. As Batman is fighting he’s not only fighting more brutality, but his moves actually changes to Joker’s fighting style in Arkham asylum.
    This video was explain it:th-cam.com/video/FuZS_IzQ2_A/w-d-xo.html

  • @yungblink
    @yungblink 3 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    I love the scene where Henry kills all the infected and then kills himself after discovering that Batman is infected.

    • @lulchris_
      @lulchris_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Even if you have batman at gun point that's a battle you wont win and Henry knew that batman can terrorize more in one day than what henry can do in a month.

    • @Firey_bunnyboi
      @Firey_bunnyboi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@lulchris_ no it was great because he realized batman would make the best joker so he cleared himself out

    • @lulchris_
      @lulchris_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Firey_bunnyboi i know that's another reason the scene is great. The only person who can cause as much chaos as joker is batman, not Henry or the other knock offs.

    • @poutine8741
      @poutine8741 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I love it when he says “your going to be extraordinary”

    • @bruhyougottachill6665
      @bruhyougottachill6665 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Another great thing about this video is when he makes a point about Batman not killing and would rather rehabilitate these people. Joker knowing this in the first arkham game, easily takes over arkham. It’s only until city when Batman comes to his senses and realizes that even the most twisted minds like the jokers mind can’t be fixed, which is a killers mind. That’s why he said that Batman can’t live with himself in Arkham Knight, because Batman has a mind of a killer, and there’s no fixing Batman’s mind after being traumatized by his parents death, being infected with jokers blood. That’s why Batman says that he’s fine dying if joker dies with him.

  • @moviehermit5631
    @moviehermit5631 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    And Batman sounding more tired started in the Arkham City DLC Harley Quinn’s revenge. He’s been feeling guilty the moment Joker died and he can’t let go of it. Joker’s death might have been why the Kightfall protocol was made, so Batman can either start fresh or put Batman away because his heart isn’t in it anymore, trusting his family to handle things without him

  • @SofMousauff
    @SofMousauff 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I like how fear gas doesn't really work to incapacitate batman. His worst fear is finally killing someone and bringing that out just makes him more and more dangerous

  • @memelord9610
    @memelord9610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    This is one of my favorite game series.

    • @Dirt21
      @Dirt21 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Christian Stewart origins has a semi-good story

  • @DumbFroggg
    @DumbFroggg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +324

    I absolutely love this video! I feel like a lot of people misunderstand a lot of aspects in Arkham Knight’s writing, and think it a worse game as a result, so it’s really awesome to see such proper appreciation and analysis of what I think is the best written part of the Arkham games: Batman’s internal struggle in Knight! That final story mission in Arkham Knight is probably my favorite part of the series (not even mentioning the Batman vs Scarecrow aspect of the writing), capped off with the epic declaration of identity in his “I am Batman” speech, I just love it so much, and loved seeing you talk about it!
    I’ll say once again, this video was a joy to watch! It’s very well made, obviously very well thought out, and it’s a very good analysis of that scene, and the Joker’s role in Knight in general! Good stuff!

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      100%
      Many of the complaints of this story are from people spouting “pLoT hoLES” because they don’t understand the story, saying it’s underdeveloped because they don’t understand the depth, and saying it lacks emotion because they don’t pay attention to the scenes.
      Most of Knight’s story is a masterclass for how to craft a story

    • @Jonathan-A.C.
      @Jonathan-A.C. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Christian Stewart
      Ye facts.
      Only thing I don’t like about the gameplay is some of Batman’s animations being changed, but the core mechanics are ideal

    • @DumbFroggg
      @DumbFroggg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jonathan-A.C. Amen!

  • @acompy
    @acompy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    6:17 My favorite part of this scene when i first played knight after years is that i didn't realize it started, i entered the elevator, waited a few minutes and started looking around just to see joker sitting there.

  • @CianMurphy_89
    @CianMurphy_89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    I love how you included Origins it is my favorite and it shows how even a young angry Batman will not kill but an older depressed Batman will in Harley Quinn’s revenge he still doesn’t kill but I think he is at the end where he believes Harley killed Tim and it is even more likely because he thought Tim died the same way he lost Jason to a mad psychopath who will cross any line but when Tim turns out to be alive Bruce leaves to stop the urge to end Harley which is why he wanted to kill Henry so much because if he killed Harley none of this would have happened leading him to believe he killed the other Jokers and that he will kill again and that he needs to do he locks up Tim and heads out then Tim is captured which is his fault again he makes mistakes that always lead to others getting hurt like Talia, Strange and Jason which is what ultimately causes him to let the fear gas in and he thinks it over which is why the Joker in the final nightmare gets to kill Bruce has no courage and he needs courage to fight his demon which is why he only shows up late in the fight and why he takes the form of stone he freezes when eyes are on him because he isn’t sure what he is but when he gets the courage and realizes that leaving his work to the Joker in his mind is a bad idea he needs to fight but he can’t do it forever

    • @CianMurphy_89
      @CianMurphy_89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Also there are a lot of complaints about the scene where Barbra kills herself and how does scarecrow know what Batman is seeing well scarecrow made Batman believe Barbra was there and it scares Batman so the toxin takes over and makes him see it because scarecrow wanted him to.

  • @StudMacher78
    @StudMacher78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    6:04 Ah, now you know I remember that classic sound. This scene always hits me hard

  • @Creamed_Corn_INC.
    @Creamed_Corn_INC. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The militia begging for their life has to be one of the best scenes ever, the fear in their voices really shows how devastating joker as Batman really would be

  • @neetlikereallyneet9103
    @neetlikereallyneet9103 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I adore Joker more in Knight over any other Arkham version because it's not Joker, it's Batman's inner monologue. It makes so many of the little quips and insults Joker throws at people a little darker. Joker's mocking of Batman's close friends is actually Batman's inner thoughts coming up with morbid, sadistic jokes to make at them. Batman insults and taunts himself and his closest friends within his own mind, and can't stop it. It's so good.

  • @lumskull1084
    @lumskull1084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    My one amazing scene would be from Arkham origins with jokers monologue to Harley when he arrives at black gate. The dialogue is just fuckin awesome from that sequence.

  • @N03_03
    @N03_03 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    In the elevator scene, u can faintly here a more eerie rendition of the Arkham theme in the background music, also Kevin Conroy referred to this game as his favorite in the series because of the story they were telling and I quote “really let me stretch my acting muscles”

  • @nzpowa._.6662
    @nzpowa._.6662 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bruce waynes as batamn, fears is becoming joker. Jokers fear is loosing to batman. Batman is batman.

  • @thespiritus4440
    @thespiritus4440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I saw batman locking joker away as his attempt to "reform " joker. A subconscious obstinance to save everyone

  • @PauloH100
    @PauloH100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The next could be that final scene from Origins, I hardly see anyone talking about it. In fact, everyone I've seen playing that ending won't even let the Joker finish his sentence(which ends up funny, because that's exactly what the joker is saying, about Batman not letting him finish a sentence of his)

  • @dvsr.115
    @dvsr.115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    To me, its always come across that batman wasn't sure on what to do in the last part of arkham city and when joker stabbed him he said he would've given him the cure

  • @alexfraga6085
    @alexfraga6085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Man, as a big fan of arkham series I can just thank you for this content. It shows how well structured and deep the games are. Please keep making these great videos, specially the "one amazing scene" ones

  • @sporgultimes2
    @sporgultimes2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my favorite lines from Batman is “If there’s a chance a life can be saved I have to try.” I don’t know where the line was originally said but I love it so much.

  • @michaelmyers3808
    @michaelmyers3808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine if rocksteady had made a “what if game” were joker had taken over Batman’s body were you play as joker but in Batman’s body

  • @FanSRLakaFFakaMaceyaq
    @FanSRLakaFFakaMaceyaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When ever i see some Reference to arkham asylum in arkham knight i feel sad that arkham asylum was relesed so long ago and arkham asylum is the place where it all Started

  • @modis8909
    @modis8909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Always good seeing Arkham Knight being appreciated

  • @lulchris_
    @lulchris_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    happy Halloween always check your candy make sure it's not opened enjoy and watch out to kidnapper's

  • @Terminal_Apotos
    @Terminal_Apotos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This was amazing dude. Happy Halloween everyone

  • @afireinsidebrad
    @afireinsidebrad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    when you think about it, there could have been an alternate ending where Bats goes full Batman Who Laughs, succumbing to Jokers toxin in conjunction to the fear toxin
    now I want a BWL skin, damn

  • @Marcusxomezx
    @Marcusxomezx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is a powerful video clown puncher ❤

  • @Patrick_Nguyen
    @Patrick_Nguyen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    7:55 I might be lying to myself when I say “Kevin’s Arkham Batman voice is better than Roger’s”. Kevin Conroy is iconic and nostalgic, But I think I like the Origins voice more.

    • @mugoftoothpaste1507
      @mugoftoothpaste1507 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For me, I love both for different reasons. Kevin did an amazing "calm and wise" older batman while Roger does a really good young, inexperienced and angry batman

  • @makkapakka3270
    @makkapakka3270 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He doesn’t believe all people can be reformed, thats been made clear by the way he’s talked about characters like joker and killer croc before. He doesn’t kill because he’s afraid of losing himself, if he steps slightly over the cliff he might lose control and fall all the way down. That every street punk who tries to mug a family like his will become his murder victim. that’s why batman possibly killing someone under the influence of the fear gas makes sense, because he’s AFRAID to kill.

  • @blacktytrix
    @blacktytrix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What makes this all even better is that not only did joker bring himself to his own demise in city, he did it in knight. We see constantly throughout the story joker trying to take control and using the fear gas weakening batman as his opening. At the end in the asylum, Scarecrow hits batman with more toxin and it finally breaks batman and causes his greatest fear to come to life: his sanity was lost and joker won, to which we see joker now strapped down. Joker now thinks he's won and laughs at crane, causing him to hit who he thinks is batman with even more toxin. Yet in actually, he dosed joker. It's then that batman preys on joker's deepest fears of being forgotten to take back control of his body and win this mental battle against joker once and for all.

  • @michaelwiff2576
    @michaelwiff2576 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love your summarization man, please keep it up.

  • @jdgameolorian2698
    @jdgameolorian2698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Calling you a Batman fan would be the understatement of the century. Seriously, you did a great job delving deep into the psychology of Batman and why that underrated scene at Panessa Studio works so well. Bravo, dude!

  • @paulschulze5976
    @paulschulze5976 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What an incredible video, thanks for your effort!

  • @ndjoker34
    @ndjoker34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Funny fact, when they killed joker off in Arkham city, I really thought they made a mistake. I thought to myself "both Batman and Joker are what makes the Arkham games worth playing. How are they gonna have another game without Batman's arch nemesis in it?" I really thought it was a dumb mistake and didn't know why they killed joker off, but then the masterpiece that is Arkham knight came along and surprised me by having Joker be INSIDE batman's mind. Holy....crap! What a great way to not only bring our beloved, psychotic clown back, but also it's a great new challenge for our dear dark knight. It gets you asking the question "how will Batman defeat joker this time now that he's literally a part of him?" I love the idea of joker being inside Batmans mind and slowly taking over. It's very joker like and the way rock steady told the story in Arkham knight was nothing short of brilliant. Plus I just love having Joker literally along for the ride with me while I beat up thugs on Gotham's streets, it's always so nice to see joker just casually chilling on a rooftop and he'll start talking to Batman. I love that so much, so yeah I was wrong, rock steady did not make a mistake by killing off joker in Arkham city, they just had something much better in store for both Batman and Joker. A real ace up their sleeve, and they played it well. Yeah Arkham knight will always be my personal favorite game in the Arkham franchise. The story, graphics, gameplay, characters, character designs, voice acting, the missions, the batmobile, it's all SO GOOD!!!! I admit, it's not a perfect game by any means but I love it so much and it's the one Arkham game I kept replaying the most and played it all the way through countless times.

    • @megalabite1013
      @megalabite1013 ปีที่แล้ว

      I do have one question if joker did not come back and everything else was kept the same would you still love it and still be ok with scarecrow as the main villain because I would be but joker is still a key part of the game that I love from time to time also why I would be ok with it is because scarecrow was done great in this game and I believed he should have been looked more into as a character and given more amazing scenes because all of his scenes if not short and not many are some of the best scenes in the game and maybe in the whole series in my opinion

    • @mattmark94
      @mattmark94 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Joker is overused in all Batman media. I hate how at the end of the day, it's *always* about Joker in the Arkham games.

  • @braindunkin
    @braindunkin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This really shows Arkham knight actually was better than all the games well not in boss fights and plot twists

  • @Wolfbane1677
    @Wolfbane1677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so glad I'm not the only one who came up with the same conclusion.

  • @wesleyfravel5149
    @wesleyfravel5149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Honestly, there is something else I’ve honestly thought from that scene. “But now I’m on the inside, we both know the truth.” What if, when Batman had the cure at the very end of Arkham City, he wasn’t gonna give the cure? Even for a moment, maybe 2 or 3, he actually is thinking he’s not gonna give it to Joker. He’s gonna let him die, to save countless others from death. Then joker Stabs him, the vial shatters, and all the rest happens. But Batman almost killed, even by inaction. He almost let another person die, even if it was the joker. And those moments haunt Bruce, because if the joker wouldn’t have stabbed him, Batman may have killed a man. And that haunts him, because if he almost killed once, whose to say he won’t go through with it another time?

  • @opensourceis9996
    @opensourceis9996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I swear when I was playing that scene where it goes from Arkham asylum to the other room with all the villains saying “this guy killed 50 of our men”, when it was transitioning, before it was revealed to be joker on the stretcher, I saw in the left that it was Batman’s body with joker’s head on it

  • @FabledHeroes3351
    @FabledHeroes3351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What’s so damn funny is that Joker is still blaming Batman for his own mistakes apparently not even death made him learn anymore

  • @techburstthecreativeotter488
    @techburstthecreativeotter488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video man. Love that you talked about this because arkham knight in some ways may be the red headed step child but man when the game shine it shines and I'm glad I saw this video. Subbed.

  • @tristonperry2378
    @tristonperry2378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow after this vid I got more respect for Arkham knight after you explained it a bit

  • @crazydud3380
    @crazydud3380 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What you just described is, by far, the best story aspect of Arkham Knight, and perhaps of the entire series. It is telling that he locks Joker away, rather than killing it in his mind. When Joker tries to prove him and Batman are the same, we think that is ridiculous, but Bruce knows better. He knows Joker sees what he is capable of. It is always there, and has always been there. Joker's blood, combined with fear toxin, simply drew it out of him, but he locks it back up, where it belongs, because Batman's greatest achievement is not saving Gotham, but saving himself.

  • @macsynister
    @macsynister 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    good to see people appreciate Arkham Knight even more, i really loved these mind sequences it really added layers to the story, the main story maybe be very generic/stale but this part and the ending makes the game SO GOOD

  • @Jonathan-A.C.
    @Jonathan-A.C. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect video. This scene encapsulates the conflict ever present within the game

  • @grant5758
    @grant5758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One interesting theory I heard is that the original Bruce personality died when Joker took over. The Batman that manifests is Joker’s perception of what Batman is and this new persona takes over. No more Bruce, only the bat.

    • @orlandojosemoraamaya363
      @orlandojosemoraamaya363 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's dumb, cause why would he still reach Tim AND say that Gordon to lookafter them all

    • @orlandojosemoraamaya363
      @orlandojosemoraamaya363 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cause the bat doesn't care about individuals, only Bruce does

  • @elijahbaker781
    @elijahbaker781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We we’re so close to having the Batman who laughs in our hands.

  • @lnerfan4468
    @lnerfan4468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Arkham knight is an fantastic game and my favoruite arkham game

  • @shankarprasad1825
    @shankarprasad1825 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I once heard a quote that totally resonates with batman's perception and your analysis about it ( from 5:25)
    "True courage is having power but choosing not to use it"

  • @BoopinSnooples
    @BoopinSnooples 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Alternative title: Batman Arkham Knight: One Amazing Game

  • @thespiritus4440
    @thespiritus4440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I LOVE this. Thank you so much for making this.

    • @thespiritus4440
      @thespiritus4440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You really get at the core of batman a lot of people miss. Love this channel.

  • @alexzanderschwieger9938
    @alexzanderschwieger9938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    CALLING FOR A SAVIOR TO CONVINCE YOU ITS ALRIGHT NOTHING BUT THE CONSEQUENCE YOUR WAISTING PRECIOUS TIME.
    - Everyone Loves A Villain

  • @stryderlao
    @stryderlao 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And this is why Bruce should have for therapy because those pent up feelings of his can be unleash at any giving moment if the conditions are right

    • @Samuel152
      @Samuel152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But then he'd reveal that he's Batman and that wouldn't end well.

  • @Brandonsnider476
    @Brandonsnider476 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Happy Halloween, and great video 🎃👻

  • @aPumpkn
    @aPumpkn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Weird that you thought that. This felt the most Batman out of everything I've seen from Conroy.

  • @Dctctx
    @Dctctx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Isn’t it Batman’s fault though. We’re talking about a guy who can walk through gunfire and a stab to the shoulder makes him drop the cure vial

    • @anthonygarcia8749
      @anthonygarcia8749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      he's still human lol on top of the fact that his suit had already taken damage and lost most of its integrity at that point.

    • @Dctctx
      @Dctctx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@anthonygarcia8749 true

    • @armedweiss5531
      @armedweiss5531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Batman being able to tank gunfire is so the player doesn't instantly die during gameplay. Batman's first though all the way back in Arkham Asylum the first time he deals with mooks with guns is "It's suicide to take them head-on".

    • @Yesmanpersondude
      @Yesmanpersondude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s a stupid argument because it’s like Kevlar it can take bullet fire but not piercing from a knife

    • @Dctctx
      @Dctctx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Yesmanpersondude I realize that now. I had no idea what I was talking about, just haven’t gotten around to deleting it.

  • @Followerofchrist221
    @Followerofchrist221 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That comment at 5:40-5:51 reminded me strongly of the killing joke that
    For those who don’t know if you do skip this
    That there are to men in prison and they decide to break out so they get to the roof one jumps across to freedom then turns around and tells him to jump and the other guy says he’ll fall so the other guy pulls out a flashlight and shins it over the gap and tells him if he walks across it he’ll make it
    The other guy says no way you’ll turn it off when I’m half way across.-joker end quote to Batman

  • @OliverHutch-
    @OliverHutch- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These videos are very great keep up the arkham content

  • @mordakaitirado3609
    @mordakaitirado3609 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fantastic video! Love that I'm not the only one who adores that scene!

  • @The_AmazingRoger
    @The_AmazingRoger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That chime gave me goosebumps

  • @starlordawe2499
    @starlordawe2499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Happy Halloween

  • @-RedHood-
    @-RedHood- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    So from what I understand now, *Batman’s feelings but mostly his violent tendencies + his knowledge and memories of Joker = his Joker personality, which is a near-perfect copy of the original’s.*
    Batman knows the Joker better than anyone. His knowledge and memories of Joker resulted in his Joker personality being a near-perfect copy of the original's while also adding on his own feelings and violent tendencies, which he always has restrained. Each of the infected take on a specific trait(s) of the Joker's personality while also adding on their own traits like with Henry having the ruthless, manipulative, and calculating traits of the Joker but still saying these scientific things related to his background of being a biology teacher.
    That’s possibly why Batman’s Joker personality is always tied to his feelings and violent tendencies throughout the events of Arkham Knight. These personal non-Joker-inherited traits may even be boosted by the infection as Henry’s biology teacher background resulted in him believing in survival of the fittest after becoming a Joker. The Joker Infection must’ve also boosted Batman's violent tendencies as a side-effect which is where these killing scenarios in Batman’s mind came from.
    The Joker Infection, combined with the fear toxin, was gradually stripping Batman of his restraints and then the "Batman Who Laughs" in this universe would've called himself the Joker and bring out Bruce's violent tendencies in the form of mass violence and destruction. I think.

  • @Bugplanet8840
    @Bugplanet8840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just finished Arkham city main game ng+ for first time

  • @whimpyzee8779
    @whimpyzee8779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Batman is the most accurate representation of humanity

  • @TheGamer91677
    @TheGamer91677 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The thing i like about the mini boss(Joker) is that in my opinion the only reason batman won his body back, is because of scarecrow.

  • @BullyMaguire314
    @BullyMaguire314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This game gets way too much hate I mean don’t get me wrong I still think it has its problems and I like City and Origins WAY better but Knight is still great.

    • @anthonygarcia8749
      @anthonygarcia8749 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      all 4 games are great in their own ways, really lol. Love them all.

    • @BullyMaguire314
      @BullyMaguire314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anthonygarcia8749 same

    • @tragedyplustime8271
      @tragedyplustime8271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I prefer Knight's faster structure, City was way too slow for me to worry about Bruce's poisoning
      Also people love to bitch about Joker stealing Knight, but his appearence in Knight is absolutely integral to the plot, whereas in City he does steal the plot since he has nothing to do with Protocol 10

  • @Retro-Chimps-Galaxy
    @Retro-Chimps-Galaxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I noticed that the more that joker takes over Batman’s mind the more jokers face clears up

  • @ned4246
    @ned4246 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    new clownpuncher vid got me like woooaahh!!

  • @lilypaigeham
    @lilypaigeham 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:51 this is also shown in the Harley Quinn's Revenge DLC of Arkham City. Batman has the same way of speaking where he sounds like he lost himself

  • @mattboy5296
    @mattboy5296 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Going off the point about how Batman sounds detached and not really into what he's doing during the events of Knight and it most likely being intentional for the story, I remember an interview where Kevin Conroy said that Knight was his favorite of the 3 Arkham games he voice acted for. And I wonder if the fact that he was playing Batman in a way he hadn't before is part of that. Most of the time, he's played a version of Batman that's generally the same as he did in the animated series, and outside of some scenes in Batman Beyond we didn't see him play such a dejected and almost emotionless version of the character.
    Both versions felt they were just so done with it all, but their reasons are different. In Beyond, Bruce *almost* broke his rule of no killing, even brandishing a gun to save himself from a random thug and that's what made him retire. In Knight, he actually believes he *has* broken his rule with Joker being dead and feeling like he could have done more to save him, and couple that with his mind slowly being taken over by not just Joker, but his own inner darkness that made him and Joker two sides of the same coin in the first place. It's no wonder Batman started losing himself.

  • @Caramelskate
    @Caramelskate 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Damn that music slaps i just love hearing it

  • @rileybradshaw3322
    @rileybradshaw3322 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can I just say Kevin Conroy never voiced Batman in Arkham origins

  • @simohayha9874
    @simohayha9874 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In that elevator scene I thought it was just an long way down so I waited probably for 5mins

  • @SplendidSuperman122
    @SplendidSuperman122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I still don’t get why Joker murdered Killer Croc in that one scene where he kills all the criminals with the Joker-Mobile and then the gun. I get Penguin and Two-Face since they’re his rivals in Arkham City. Riddler is kinda random since he doesn’t do much to Joker directly but considering he had spies in Joker’s gang it makes sense Joker would wanna kill him. But Croc? Why Croc? He used Croc as a weapon in Asylum and Croc never really did anything to him personally yet Joker felt the need to violently kill him by ramming him into the ground with the joker-mobile. Does anyone have an explanation for why he’d want to kill Croc?

    • @ClownPuncher139
      @ClownPuncher139  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I think that falls more under my explanation that Joker isn't just Joker taking over Batman. It's Batman's violent nature coming front and center. It's what he could do to criminals if his full power was unleashed and he ignored his no-kill rule. He'd absolutely kill Croc, because he's a dangerous animal. If he was in the real world, you'd want to put him down as much as any other dangerous crocodile with a taste for human flesh.

    • @SplendidSuperman122
      @SplendidSuperman122 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ClownPuncher139 Ok that’s a really good point. I kinda just thought Joker killed Croc. I sorta forgot the whole it’s still Batman thing since the whole scene portrays it as Joker.

    • @oncheatos5215
      @oncheatos5215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SplendidSuperman122 And i would completely see Joker kill Croc because he is the Joker. Just the fact he "betrayed" Harley (an ally ready for anything for him and completely in love) so many times proves that point. So Croc ? A random villain (for Joker at least) ? he could definitely kill him.

    • @josheldridge143
      @josheldridge143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because joker

    • @memememe609
      @memememe609 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even if it wasn't Batman, Joker would absolutely kill Croc. Considering he suggests killing Alfred, who's innocent, killing Croc is just another step to being remembered as Gotham's worst murderer.

  • @itsmeri1ey922
    @itsmeri1ey922 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Notice how Joker's face tends to look better as this game progresses. When In Ace Chemicals his face is all red and banged up, showing that he is not strong enough to take over Batman's body yet. On Stagg's airships, his face looks better but still red, showing he is only strong enough to take control of Batman's body for a limted amount of time.
    By the end of the game, His face is completely healed suggesting that he is fully ready to take over the body of Batman

  • @skull5959
    @skull5959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🃏This is basically the Batman who laughs but different🃏

  • @CrimsonWolf_VT2
    @CrimsonWolf_VT2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don’t forget about the Arkham vr game. That also proves your theory more. Since he has killed nightwing, robin and locked himself

  • @afroanime4589
    @afroanime4589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    another thing notice how after batman recieves the toxin joker takes over 100% because of this batman starts laughing and is not afraid like crane thinks he would be so he gives him another dose. i believe that other dose is the only reason batman was able to come back. you see the fear toxin had batman afraid of joker taking over and ultimately thats what happened but that second dose didnt affect batman it affected joker since he was in full control. that second dose allowed joker to face his fears and ironically enough his fear was not only being forgotten but also it was batman. it gave batman the ability to do the same thing that joker did and that was take over jokers mind and get back control of his body

  • @iiEco-Ryan3166
    @iiEco-Ryan3166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another detail I've come to realize is that when in the Stagg airship / when facing Scarecrow and Joker interferes with Batman's mission, he's noticeably taken aback. On top of this, when Joker takes over Batman as a whole when facing Scarecrow on the airship and in the Asylum, Scarecrow is hearing what Joker is saying through Batman's voice, which is why Crane isn't super thrown off by what he's saying so much as what he was doing. Sure when he got hit by the fear toxin he lost control, but not for the reason Crane thought, not because he was experiencing his greatest fear, but because he was *becoming* his greatest fear.

  • @dan.jmallia6070
    @dan.jmallia6070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Challenge idea: All batman arkham gams with no detective mode

    • @Samuel152
      @Samuel152 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not possible. The games force you to use Detective Mode at some point in the main story. It might be like the grapple challenge, where you would have to limit your Detective Mode count.

    • @dan.jmallia6070
      @dan.jmallia6070 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Samuel152 yeah I meant besides compulsory points in game

  • @Vizzini922
    @Vizzini922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Arkham city, the joker comes to life as we burn him. Did Gordon and Batman accidentally burn him alive? Especially if you had the Harley Quinn dlc for city; Gordon starts telling Batman that they should talk about what happened in the furnace room.

    • @arkhamtony3775
      @arkhamtony3775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is only in New Game plus , which is not canon , Also what Gordon was talking about is what to do with Joker's body

  • @yumatsukumo1096
    @yumatsukumo1096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every realize this is pretty much the batman who laughs origin but avoided

  • @G.reviewz
    @G.reviewz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    everytime i hear a character in batman games say "bruce" i always flinch.. yes my names bruce...and my last names three letter off of wayne

  • @elijahbaker781
    @elijahbaker781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think joker was more than just a hallucination of the fear toxin he was Batman’s guilty conscience over jokers death that he didn’t cause. I also think the joker is haunting Batman as some sick phantom of some sort but that’s a wild card.

  • @afroanime4589
    @afroanime4589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think batman actually could have cured joker. He has really good reaction speed and could have easily dodged joker or countered as he does throughout the game. Yet he does nothing because even though he would have given the cure part of him did not want to and ultimately didnt. I think for this reason he blames himself because he most definitely could have saved the joker but didnt. Feel free to make a vid on this.

  • @davidlawrence5091
    @davidlawrence5091 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it wasn't for the bat tank fights I'd love this game.

  • @acrobat5866
    @acrobat5866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favorite video of yours

  • @sparshbansal6624
    @sparshbansal6624 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Clownpuncher, I hope you read this even if you dont respond to it. I love you. I love you. Your passion for batman rivals my own. You understand the real reason why batman wont kill anyone. It is not because batman wont be able to stop killing if he killed one.

  • @alexzanderschwieger9938
    @alexzanderschwieger9938 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is my favorite design of joker and its voiced by the king of jokers...Mark hamill

  • @iambatman238
    @iambatman238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It felt like Arkham knight was just a big "what if" game. Would batman let the fear and anger control him or would he fight It till the end.

  • @Nickdabom8
    @Nickdabom8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful

  • @StudMacher78
    @StudMacher78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This games story sucked but it had some good nostalgic brought back.

  • @blitzi.m.p5927
    @blitzi.m.p5927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever heard of a character called The Batman Who Laughs?

  • @MEDICUS729
    @MEDICUS729 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like the whole game is just in Batmans head

  • @ryszakowy
    @ryszakowy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'd like to point out that at the intro it's you who has to start the fire to burn joker's body