I just realized. When Barry talks to his mum as she dies, she in that moment realized that the person she was talking too all day was her son. Bro that's such good writing for the CW damn
This is not true because if this logic is true then his dad would realize that the random kid they saved that one day before Nora’s death was future Barry and his dad never knew Barry was the flash until that night in prison. So the original timeline when Barry first went back and talked to his mom before she died she was confused. But this time, the timeline was alerted and his mom did understand. But this event is completely different than S1 event.
and yet when S1 Barry said "Dad and I are both okay" she wasn't like "hold up, you just told me like 5 hours ago that both your parents were dead." Yes I know, shes dying, her brain isn't working properly bla bla bla but come on...
Like you said in season 1 when Barry went back took his mask off and when Nora was dying and she said notice that Barry look just like her father . So in some way that had to be going through her mind how this guy can look just like her dad .
Can we talk about how amazing the Allens are as people? From their perspective Bart was just a stranger, yet they worried about him and treated him like family.
I wonder when in the scripting process, where they told this was going to be the final season and/or how many episodes there would be in the season, because there is a possible chance that earlier episodes were scripted before knowing either 1) it would be the final season, or 2) how many episodes the season would have. Both Supergirl and Arrow had foreknowledge about exactly how long their final seasons would be, while this kept changing. This was renewed for a ninth season in March 2022, and was not officially announced to be the final season until August. Wallace was initally expecting a 20 episode season, Grant signed a contract for a 15 episode season, then made to a 13 episode season.
Barry got to say what he would say to his parents if he got the chance to see them one last time, which obviously and ironically was happening and they didn’t even realize that he was talking about them. 1:31 Plus, the hug makes the moment all the more meaningful and emotionally heartwarming.
Sometimes the worst things happen to the best kinds of people, it’s sad but it’s not because some divine power like God doesn’t care or because it’s fate, it just happens, it’s just tragedy. Tragedy is a part of life and it teaches us that we can’t control everything or what happens around us, we’re not Gods, it also reminds us of our own mortality. It teaches us to not dwell on the past but to move forward and to remember, mourn and honour the people we lose, to take them with us on our own journey
No one deserves to be murdered, but sadly its part of living in a broken world. Free will gives us a great capacity for love, but it also bestows upon us an almost-equal level of hate...and when we give in to the latter, tragedy always follows.
this scene, this scene is so essential to barrys character, i think this is what he fully needed to push him past his parents death and how he gets his closure to let go all i have to say is this final arc is starting off strong. Also cobalt blue is here baby!
The first time I watched this I wondered why Henry and Nora would go back to the hospital to chat (beyond being a convenient place for the writers to have "Bart" find them since he can't go to their house). Then I realized Henry and Nora are the kind of people who would make a last ditch effort for "Bart" to find them again if he wants help and that warmed my heart.
So in this timeline, does Nora’s final moments with season 1 Barry make her realize that this “Bart” she just met is her son? And does Henry realize “ Bart” was Barry as he saw him grow up into looking like the same guy especially after he found out Barry is the Flash and can time travel.
When S1 talks to Nora, I always thought she acted too familiar with him, so she knew. And Henry probably understood during the S1 finale when Barry told him he could time travel.
So basically in season 1 Henry already knew Barry was The Flash because he saw him that night. Also that could make more sense his last sentences before he died in season from Zoom, cause he already knew he was going to die and he just wanted to remind Barry he loves him.
This was a nice scene for Barry to say goodbye to his parents. A way to say goodbye without breaking history. It was all nice... until he is faced by the very thing that brought him here, the Blue Flame crystal. Man, villains can't take a break after tended goodbyes. Good luck Barry. Find your way home and may your future be a bright one. Thanks to anyone who reads this.
He does. Later in the episode, it's revealed this Barry is the one who stopped season 1 Barry from saving Nora. So afterward, season 1 Barry would've still comforted Nora as she died.
Coming back to this I realize not only the reason Nora trusted him in the end but also Henry, he in future seeing his son all grown up realizes that he's the flash and he travels back to this night. This could explain why he doesn't want Barry to do it in the future (season 1 finale) because of all the events that played in leading up toward this
It's really sweet how Barry parents are so sweet to a complete stranger when they just met and treat him like their own son I mean yeah he is their son but you know what I mean now Nora's look at Barry when he mentioned his name when she was dying means more in the scene because the whole time she spent time with her grown up son and didn't know it he grew up into a great young man. Makes me wonder though if Henrey knew when Barry got older cause he had to recognize Barry face once he became an adult right was sweet he got to finally say what he wanted to them even though he knows their future what those of us with good parents who past wish we could see them again
There have been 5 versions of Nora . Original Nora Barry's mom . Season 5 Future Nora West-Allen . Joan Williams (Earth-3/Prime) . Speed Force Nora embodiment . Season 7-9 Nora West-Allen
Damn it! Not only does the S1's Flash comes full circle, even the Nora's story also comes full circle. Damn you CW covering everything that was question mark. Damn good writing.
After 15-16 years the details of what "Bart" looked like are probably hazy in Henry's mind, Barry wouldn't have had context either so they might even have discussed it offscreen as just a footnote in the story of the night Nora died.
i haven’t watched this show since season 5 I believe (the cockroach guy with the lightning bolt knife). But if this is the day his parents die, I find it weird all this happens and than Henry doesn’t conclude a connection with the mysterious guy with the murder of his wife. Just seems weird that’s the first thing I’d think about will sitting in prison if I were him
@joeallen9104 even more chances he forgot cause this got overshadowed with Nora's death and him getting wrongly imprisoned. Nora was able to figure it out as she lay dying though
@@joeallen9104 yes, but there is also the fact that he knew barry was the flash in the future, with no reason that he should know, since the day he first saw "the flash" save joe from that gas, meaning thats how he knows
Wait wait wait hold on and something I am just now realizing: with older Barry interacting with them here and with Joe what is the logical explanation that their older versions didn't I guess say something or suspect Barry had something to him? Also wouldn't Barry have known to not talk to anyone for any potential timeline changes? I am sure there is a reasonable and logical explanation but I feel with him interacting then throughout the years Henry and Joe would have remembered those moments.
good writing but i wonder one thing.. At the time nora dies, and she saw barry, she say to him, that he looks liker her father. Was it the typical last moment enlightment, or was she not to tell him and thought about it in silence ?
Barry's full name is Bartholomew Henry Allen, which is often shortened to Barry OR Bart. He likely didn't want to mention his short-name to his mother who already calls him by said short-name, and so he went with Bart
Is anyone thinking back in season 1 when henry see barry for first time when he visited him in prison henry what the hell you look exatcly like that kid LOL
Wait so if the reverse flash intended on killing little Barry. The. Doesn’t that mean reverse flash would be killing hom self since the flash wouldn’t even exist
Y’all are slow his father and mother knew that was there son lol she is a mother and there father had to have known this whole time when he got out of jail and seen Barry grown up duh guys they knew Barry was the flash
@Daniel Bunnell THEY LITERALLY TALK ABOUT HOW HE LOOKS LIKE HER FATHER AND THAT THEY ARE OK. Thanks to this bs. His taking off the mask should've had a much more recognition reaction.
Wait… doesn’t this break the timeline? Shouldn’t his dad have been hella confused in season one and two why his son grew up to look exactly like this random stranger
![Barry Stops Thawne From Killing Young Barry | The Flash 9x10 [HD]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/m7hIs-O2Sl8/mqdefault.jpg)
Damn. Barry's parents got that love and compassion down just like Batman's parents.
They are better ❤
I just realized. When Barry talks to his mum as she dies, she in that moment realized that the person she was talking too all day was her son. Bro that's such good writing for the CW damn
I thought the same when Barry first went back in time season 1. When he first said goodbye, comes around full circle
@@butterfree92 i just thought was obvious cause of course you’d know the face of your only son
@@thesnipingspider3852she never met adult Barry until he time traveled
both 2023 Flash and 2024 Flash were in season 1 finale
This is not true because if this logic is true then his dad would realize that the random kid they saved that one day before Nora’s death was future Barry and his dad never knew Barry was the flash until that night in prison. So the original timeline when Barry first went back and talked to his mom before she died she was confused. But this time, the timeline was alerted and his mom did understand. But this event is completely different than S1 event.
Nora's reaction when she saw future Barry before she died makes more sense on why she believed to him
Trueeeee
Brilliant time writing tbh
Absolutely it does
and yet when S1 Barry said "Dad and I are both okay" she wasn't like "hold up, you just told me like 5 hours ago that both your parents were dead."
Yes I know, shes dying, her brain isn't working properly bla bla bla but come on...
@@OverWims nga shut up
They are being his parents without knowing he is there son
Cause their good people at heart.
Which is why Thawne enjoys watching Barry suffer knowing they can't be in his life for long.
The Allen’s are just good people
The Allen Parents is what I want to strive to be. An absolute good people.
Tho that being said, I'm still single 💀
their*
their*
I like how this lines up and recontextualizes with how Nora reacts to Adult Barry being her son all the way back in Season 1.
I wonder if she knew they were from different times.
Mom
Like you said in season 1 when Barry went back took his mask off and when Nora was dying and she said notice that Barry look just like her father .
So in some way that had to be going through her mind how this guy can look just like her dad .
Can we talk about how amazing the Allens are as people? From their perspective Bart was just a stranger, yet they worried about him and treated him like family.
I don’t think they would’ve done this for a stranger they instinctively knew that Barry was their kid.
Barry sees his mother
Barry sees his father
Nora sees his Barry boy baby son
Henry sees his Barry son boy
"They're proud of you son"
the throw back 😭😭😭
Seriously... WHERE WAS THIS QUALITY AND EMOTION ALL SEASON?!?!
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this is giving me season 1 vibes
They make a lot of money by those funds
I wonder when in the scripting process, where they told this was going to be the final season and/or how many episodes there would be in the season, because there is a possible chance that earlier episodes were scripted before knowing either 1) it would be the final season, or 2) how many episodes the season would have. Both Supergirl and Arrow had foreknowledge about exactly how long their final seasons would be, while this kept changing. This was renewed for a ninth season in March 2022, and was not officially announced to be the final season until August. Wallace was initally expecting a 20 episode season, Grant signed a contract for a 15 episode season, then made to a 13 episode season.
Reminds me of the final seasons of Big Bang Theory and B99. Shitty seasons overall, but damn, are the final episodes great.
They are one of the best written parents. This whole episode showed actual good writing. Wild how they fumbled so much
Most likely didn't know what to do until this point so they just threw random stuff at the non-existent wall.
@@BatMane95 exactly, they've been procrastinating all these years with filler.
The show woulda ended years ago if they stuck to this.
@@lessermook7608well, it was originally supposed to end in season 6
Barry got to say what he would say to his parents if he got the chance to see them one last time, which obviously and ironically was happening and they didn’t even realize that he was talking about them. 1:31 Plus, the hug makes the moment all the more meaningful and emotionally heartwarming.
1:48 why she calls him bart?
@@zimknxckb4ck It was Barry’s cover name that he used to have his parents call him by that so he doesn’t expose himself as their son as an adult.
Until the end of the rpisode this Nora dies seeing S1 Barry
They are so nice people. They didn’t deserve what’s about to happen to them.
Sometimes the worst things happen to the best kinds of people, it’s sad but it’s not because some divine power like God doesn’t care or because it’s fate, it just happens, it’s just tragedy. Tragedy is a part of life and it teaches us that we can’t control everything or what happens around us, we’re not Gods, it also reminds us of our own mortality. It teaches us to not dwell on the past but to move forward and to remember, mourn and honour the people we lose, to take them with us on our own journey
No one deserves to be murdered, but sadly its part of living in a broken world. Free will gives us a great capacity for love, but it also bestows upon us an almost-equal level of hate...and when we give in to the latter, tragedy always follows.
Barry has seen her dead mother more than I've seen my dad my whole life.
DAMN
Haha, same dude don't even know his name.
Barry's a woman?
@@europec2082 probably auto correct don't be that guy
@@JACQUEZ23 autocorrect? I don’t think so
this scene, this scene is so essential to barrys character, i think this is what he fully needed to push him past his parents death and how he gets his closure to let go all i have to say is this final arc is starting off strong. Also cobalt blue is here baby!
0:30 that music playing 😭😭
Grant was absolutely perfect in this episode
Second Chance by Blake Neely
I’m so glad in this episode we got to hear some of the s1 music again and relive the same memories and experiences as the first seasons
The first time I watched this I wondered why Henry and Nora would go back to the hospital to chat (beyond being a convenient place for the writers to have "Bart" find them since he can't go to their house). Then I realized Henry and Nora are the kind of people who would make a last ditch effort for "Bart" to find them again if he wants help and that warmed my heart.
The music that plays in 0:30 sounds like the music that played when S1 Barry saw Nora one last time before she died
Yea that the second chance theme
It's also used when Barry talks on the phone with his mum from earth 2. I've always wanted them to release an OST of this version!
So in this timeline, does Nora’s final moments with season 1 Barry make her realize that this “Bart” she just met is her son? And does Henry realize “ Bart” was Barry as he saw him grow up into looking like the same guy especially after he found out Barry is the Flash and can time travel.
When S1 talks to Nora, I always thought she acted too familiar with him, so she knew. And Henry probably understood during the S1 finale when Barry told him he could time travel.
That was so sad and good that he spent his final moments with this parents❤😢❤😢
This emotional moment with Barry and his parents, truly seems Hallmark worthy in my book. Loved it emencly!❤
So basically in season 1 Henry already knew Barry was The Flash because he saw him that night.
Also that could make more sense his last sentences before he died in season from Zoom, cause he already knew he was going to die and he just wanted to remind Barry he loves him.
This was a nice scene for Barry to say goodbye to his parents. A way to say goodbye without breaking history. It was all nice... until he is faced by the very thing that brought him here, the Blue Flame crystal. Man, villains can't take a break after tended goodbyes. Good luck Barry. Find your way home and may your future be a bright one. Thanks to anyone who reads this.
💯
a episode with just barry allen and not the whole crew , ended up beeing the best episode in the last 6 seasons!! Thumbs up if you agree 👍👍
3:09 This gave out some Savitar vibes
That is straight heart jerking jeez
The only thing which kept the past few seasons watchable was Grant's acting. He's always been the standout even in the bad parts.
This episode is the true series finale
Eddie is calling Barry
Barry call himself that because he doesn't want to tell them his real name and where he from
Does Barry still talk to his mom as she's dying because this makes that moment so much better
He does. Later in the episode, it's revealed this Barry is the one who stopped season 1 Barry from saving Nora. So afterward, season 1 Barry would've still comforted Nora as she died.
Goddamn this scene was so sad. Also I’m glad before Nora died she knew that was Barry she saw that day
imagine that day/night for poor Nora
Coming back to this I realize not only the reason Nora trusted him in the end but also Henry, he in future seeing his son all grown up realizes that he's the flash and he travels back to this night. This could explain why he doesn't want Barry to do it in the future (season 1 finale) because of all the events that played in leading up toward this
It's really sweet how Barry parents are so sweet to a complete stranger when they just met and treat him like their own son I mean yeah he is their son but you know what I mean now Nora's look at Barry when he mentioned his name when she was dying means more in the scene because the whole time she spent time with her grown up son and didn't know it he grew up into a great young man. Makes me wonder though if Henrey knew when Barry got older cause he had to recognize Barry face once he became an adult right was sweet he got to finally say what he wanted to them even though he knows their future what those of us with good parents who past wish we could see them again
Oh man I wish I had parents like this. This is awesome.
What a moment full of love and sadness ❤
Then all this time barry dad knew that flash was his son fromseason 1
No it’s a new time line, since infinite crisis happened it retconned that part of season 1 and 2
@@redstar6415 I think as young Barry grows up, Henry should now recognise him as looking exactly like the young man he met on the day Nora died.
There have been 5 versions of Nora
. Original Nora Barry's mom
. Season 5 Future Nora West-Allen
. Joan Williams (Earth-3/Prime)
. Speed Force Nora embodiment
. Season 7-9 Nora West-Allen
I just love the way John Wesleyy Ship says "they'd be proud of you"
This episode should have been the actual finale, with some small changes it would have been the perfect end and closed the loop of the entire series.
His parents refere to him as “boy” but at this point they’re only like 10 years apart 🤣
After that talk, I'm not crying you are
Damn it! Not only does the S1's Flash comes full circle, even the Nora's story also comes full circle.
Damn you CW covering everything that was question mark.
Damn good writing.
I absolutely love this and hated this for Barry so amazingly beautiful but yet so tragic
Wouldn't Barry's dad (When he was locked up and found out Barry was the Flash) put that night together and told Barry he actually met him in 2000?
After 15-16 years the details of what "Bart" looked like are probably hazy in Henry's mind, Barry wouldn't have had context either so they might even have discussed it offscreen as just a footnote in the story of the night Nora died.
@@simontchang Henry must have put it together in the S1 finale when Barry told him he could time travel.
Anyone noticed that Barry Allen’s father and Bruce Wayne’s father(atleast Robert Pattinson’s version) were doctors?
No its every batman
i haven’t watched this show since season 5 I believe (the cockroach guy with the lightning bolt knife). But if this is the day his parents die, I find it weird all this happens and than Henry doesn’t conclude a connection with the mysterious guy with the murder of his wife. Just seems weird that’s the first thing I’d think about will sitting in prison if I were him
If i were Barry I'd be bawling my eyes out before I even said anything to them. How Barry manages to not do that astounds me
Right in the feels 😢
Does this now mean that Henry will recognise his grown son as the young man he met years earlier?
Right?
@@ShellCatB Not necessarily. He only met him briefly in the past, so it's entirely possible he forgot.
@joeallen9104 even more chances he forgot cause this got overshadowed with Nora's death and him getting wrongly imprisoned.
Nora was able to figure it out as she lay dying though
@@joeallen9104 yes, but there is also the fact that he knew barry was the flash in the future, with no reason that he should know, since the day he first saw "the flash" save joe from that gas, meaning thats how he knows
@@slugs2979 yup that makes alot of sense
Do you think once Barry grew up his father realized he went back in time?
Damn you Barry 😭
The whole Flash story is just Barry being a mommies boy
No different then Bruce’s entire story 😂
OMG I CANT STOP CRYING THROUGH THIS 😭😭😭😭
I wonder if William remembers it subconsciously that barry looks just like the kid they met
I legit cried for this episode 😢
matt letscher rules.
What a scene.
Pity there wasnt more of this and less crap.
EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!😢😢
I cried 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺
This is why his father went to jail because he knew his son was out there trynna catch the guy
M not crying, it’s just the onions I’m not cutting
So sad seeing the pain in his eyes
Wait wait wait hold on and something I am just now realizing: with older Barry interacting with them here and with Joe what is the logical explanation that their older versions didn't I guess say something or suspect Barry had something to him? Also wouldn't Barry have known to not talk to anyone for any potential timeline changes?
I am sure there is a reasonable and logical explanation but I feel with him interacting then throughout the years Henry and Joe would have remembered those moments.
Well Henry later on in life should know Barry came from future
What made the show special was who they got to play Barry’s father John Wesley Shipp who played Barry Allen The Flash in the 90’s
I'm not crying your crying.
good writing but i wonder one thing.. At the time nora dies, and she saw barry, she say to him, that he looks liker her father. Was it the typical last moment enlightment, or was she not to tell him and thought about it in silence ?
now this is what i mean in good writing for the flash
Gd time with your parents ❤❤❤
this was all so amazing but how come when barry grew up his dad never made the connection?
1:26 ah fuck I was okay until that line 😢
Nora and Henry being the most perfect parents ever ❤
1:48 why she calling him bart?
Barry call himself Bart because he doesn't want to tell them who is his and where he from
Barry's full name is Bartholomew Henry Allen, which is often shortened to Barry OR Bart. He likely didn't want to mention his short-name to his mother who already calls him by said short-name, and so he went with Bart
@@SeraphOC also in comics bart is Barry's grandson and funny enough an ancestor of eobart thwane
Guess was a throwback to that
@@ChrisAtheist they changed Bart to his son in the show
@@shahanahsan05 still a throwback to the comics
Is anyone thinking back in season 1 when henry see barry for first time when he visited him in prison henry what the hell you look exatcly like that kid LOL
He knew he was the flash. Probably just didn’t say anything
Did Henry know all along? 😢
Colbalt blue right?
It still hasnt c8me to finland😢
I guess in her final moments Nora realized Barry was talking about her
where can i watch flash for free online
I almost cried
Wait so if the reverse flash intended on killing little Barry. The. Doesn’t that mean reverse flash would be killing hom self since the flash wouldn’t even exist
cobalt blue attack Barry.
I cried when he saya is granddaughter
Nice
Dammit, they ruined a wonderful moment with this speed force malarky
Savitar!
Y’all are slow his father and mother knew that was there son lol she is a mother and there father had to have known this whole time when he got out of jail and seen Barry grown up duh guys they knew Barry was the flash
Exactly. People super slow.
Wait how could there be timelines if the crisis happen
Sooooooooooooo. How does dying Nora not remember this? Remember? Barry takes his mask off and talks to his dying mom?
She didn’t exactly have time to talk about it.
@Daniel Bunnell THEY LITERALLY TALK ABOUT HOW HE LOOKS LIKE HER FATHER AND THAT THEY ARE OK. Thanks to this bs. His taking off the mask should've had a much more recognition reaction.
So cute
not the fact that their in the outfits when she dies 😢
❤❤❤
That is so sad
Why would they do that to us
1:20
Barry Allen
😢😢
Motherly insti
IMAGINE ZAVITAR COMING BACK.
he Is literally coming back in ep13
😢 stop it 😢
Wait… doesn’t this break the timeline? Shouldn’t his dad have been hella confused in season one and two why his son grew up to look exactly like this random stranger
He knew Barry was the flash. He probably just never said anything