Italian Bar Disaster 2022....UPDATE
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ม.ค. 2022
- This is an update on the illegal mining claims and miners restricting the public's access to their federally passed and designated recreation area on the Stanislaus river near Columbia CA.
The USFS, BLM, CA EPA, CA DFW, CAWB and Tuolumne County Sheriff are doing nothing about it and we are requesting you reach out to any and all media and have them contact us so we may get this area returned to the public.
Contact email: support@americanminingrights.com
Have you sent this video to the local news agencies or posted this on their social media sites yet?
Hey but if you dredge they suddenly care, and show up in numbers like you are a criminal.
Right!!!
Thanks for your efforts in getting this area cleaned up. Was there in April and did not notice but went in October and saw all the trash, U-Haul and non functioning boat. It’s only going to get worse till Forest Service does their job. Media pressure could work. 👍🤙
fuck it lets start dredging again, with armed protection
The same as the rest of our government.... they do as they want NOT what we the people pay them to do. It's time to refresh our outlook on government, and vote people in to office that reflect OUR wishes not some agenda.
We had claim jumpers on our s. Yuba claim I contacted every agency you just mentioned including Nevada county sheriffs because a friend was shot at. Nobody would return a call. Regardless we carry multiple sidearms now and a shotgun. It’s sad when you have to take matters into your own hands. And courts turn a blind eye.
I had these tweekers pull a machete on me for swimming in a hole near them. I pulled my 9mm. I had a conversation with the guy with the fact that the claim isn't valid. I'm an LDMA member and have mined this area for 25 years. It's insane they will do nothing about them. Thanks shannon for your efforts and I'm glad you guys picked up canyon chaos and 6ft under. I will be re joining the club in the near future.
Man that’s so crazy! Really not worth what they are after! Theses lands are protected for a reason.
Keep it up Guys
Get ahold of Katherine Evans and the Foothill Conservancy, I guarantee they will not let go until this is rectified, its all they do
I’m in Soulsbyville!! Let’s do a cleanup!!! This is a joke that this is allowed to go on.
Let's set up a dredge, then all the government bodies with jurisdiction will be there in a heart beat.
Is it the same as Oregon ? Camping allowed for 14days after that move on or fines or impounding & jail...
You have proven the 14 days, can a group be deputized or empowered to bring them in for processing & holding, while cleaning & removal is being done (that way cost is evaluated for misdemeanor or felony charges)... & if they return it could be felony trespass ?
No. If the crime was a felony in the state of California you could possibly do something but that would be pretty messy and there is no saying the county sheriff would accept it. And if he didn't accept it you open yourself up to a can of worms.
The 14 day camping rule is for the general public camping on public lands. If your camping is "incidental" to your mining operation and you are in fact on a mining claim, the 14 days would not apply.
You mean all I have to do to create a private campsite is to tack a yellow mining site sign to a tree? I mean an invalid claim is an invalid claim. And besides, occupancy is not a right, it's discretionary on the part of the agency. You have to have permission to occupy the land for more than 14 days. Without approval the USFS LEO can boot them out with no additional justification, paperwork, or official handwringing.
im about sick of this squatting on public land wouldn't be bad if they cleaned up after there self's but the garbage is is just sick
Any update to the update? Was at LDMA today and drove past this site. Looks like only the boat and trailer are there. Didn't notice tents.
I was down there today, place is definitely cleaned up.
If there was a triple spotted puffer fish in there , they would close the entire sierra`s down.
Thank you for sharing.
Why not use some of your resources to sue the Forest Service or the county? I know money doesn't just grow on trees, but, maybe an event could help raise extra money for the purpose?
OR, just hold an event on that claim. Several days in a row. Intentionally invade these guys' solitude and peaceful area. Maybe they'll leave because of all the outsiders haha
Long term is to start voting smarter in local Elections. From land commissioners, Board of Education, City Councel to the DA. Another avenue is to take them to civil court on a small claims issue. costs very little to file and the end result is as some point the legals would play through and then the state or feds would come in and remove the individuals. Squeeky wheel get's the grease! Good luck on this. Your way more civil than what happens here in these mountains.
Hello, What is the current update?? This has been making me ill! Look like, sounds like, WE THE PEOPLE need to take care of this NOT the FS!
if i only lived closer rent a generator buy a sawzall /blades. go down there start cutting things. get a bunch of volunteers. 30/40. with pick trucks get rid of the trash. they will leave. there will be to many people for them to deal with. just tell hem to move get permission to clean the area first get them for littering. public land find the codes for the offenses they commit when you show them they can get $$$ from the offenders. maybe. have a good day
Don't need a generator Sawzall are cordless now.they refuse to clean it up until the illegal claim is removed.
@@djsi38t in order to cut up ALL the trash you would probably wear the batteries down. generator. start cutting.
I'm sorry I watched this video! Why? Because I'm an LDMA life member and in 1994 when I first joined, Italian bar in a class was my first stop. After a week there, I decided to check out the EXACT public area that these scumbags are occupying.
I'm sorry because my "perfect place" image that I've visualized for the past 28 yrs WAS this spot. And now, I can't visualize it anymore. How sad I am. I was hoping to go to Italian Bar camp again, now... we'll see.
Aloha
Is there good gold in that section of the River?
Sounds like dredging is legal in that section of the River? Right?
A dozen dredge's should get someone's attention?
You do understand the guy in the U-Haul was the caretakers from Italian Bar that do the poor health had to move off to camp and that's what they wound up
It's very hard to trespass or evict somebody up public land as well. Looks like you got you guys a cell phone hard pickle to deal with
Maybe nobody is doing anything about it because it ultimately serves their interests? You can bet they would use these people as an example to take action against ALL mining in the state...
He went to the desert. He plan's on coming back when it gets hot. Anthony Horn thinks it's still his claim
Thats sad :(
I’ve seen that spot. It’s. Bad. I also the same thing going on in Avery ca. near the Arnold rim trail post # 62. Tweaker been living there for over 2 years
Mostly modelo beer cans and bottles
So why don't you lend them a small dredge than drop a dime
Here is the thing, the forest service and fish and wildlife have better things to do, like ticket and fine a miner for using a highbanker, which obviously is more dangerous than an open sewer (this is sarcasm)
I see 'hudec" on the claim paper....he top files and sells claims on ebay / craigslist for years.
I am a graduate student in mining law and policy at University of Arizona...this is not legal advice. In theory, you can overstake and then proceed with adverse claim action. Superior Court Judge should rule to enjoin both parties citing Act of Congress withdrawing area from hardrock mineral entry. Or at very least, judge could issue an ex parte temporary restraining order until dept of interior acts affirmatively. Did they file as a placer, lode or millsite?
Placer and we've explored that option. Not surprisingly, most judges have zero knowledge when it comes to mining law.
contact heavydSPARKS he may come out in help he helps alot
@heavydsparks