Online with the Sega Dreamcast and a DreamPi in 2018 | MVG
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.พ. 2018
- The Sega Dreamcast is an online capable machine that utilized the now defunct SegaNet service. Many dreamcast online game servers have since been retired and shut down over the years.
In today's high speed online broadband world the Sega Dreamcast modem is only a relic of the past
However, the DreamPi changes all that - its a piece of hardware that brings The Sega Dreamcast back online and back to playing those classic online games from the early 2000's.
is it any good? Check out this video!
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I liked the video before watching it
I liked your comment before reading it.... Okay, no I didn't.
yeah it is worth getting that out the way
Johnny Suarez well from what I've seen of this channel so far, it's not a surprise!
I hit send before typing this comment
Johnny Suarez Same
I racked up a healthy phone bill on my Dream cast playing Quake 3 and Worms. Took a good few hours in Burger King to pay my Dad back!
Lewis Taylor I guess it worth it!
Luckily my parents had a all inclusive ISP so I got a newer Dreamkey disc and manually entered the settings so no phone bill, still used to get parents moaning about being on the internet as they were expecting a call though, and often if someone rang it cut me off middle of a game.
Whoppers to pay off Worms, sounds like a good trade off
LOL!
@@revengenerd1 weird flex but okay
I bet there’s still someone out there that has a modem and a Dreamcast on seganet waiting for somebody to play quake 3 or another game with them
I would be one of those guys if i had a Dreamcast
😢
Kaguya Houraisan Buy one! It’s like 50 bucks!
@@bandombeviews6035 I'm playing on PC and My freaking family considers 50$ "too much"
Did you know him is grammatically correct when talking about someone who you have no context of the gender?
Really cool especially that the community schedules match ups. If I ever get a Dreamcast I'll be needing one of these
I think it'd be the only viable option considering how small the community is. Otherwise you'd be lucky to find anyone at all.
The original xbox has a community that still does it too! Theyre called Xbox Kai on discord
Archina GM can you play online games on your TV
Do you know if the Dream Pi technique would work on a Treamcast? Treamcasts had the modem removed for some reason.
Only if you can attach a modem to a treamcast, if you can then yes :)
What happened to your channel,it used to be good back then 👌
Great video man! Hopefully it'll get some more people interested in joining the online community. :-) P.S. The games that are offline aren't offline because they aren't supported by DreamPi, they just don't have any servers. The server software for each game needs to be reverse-engineered. This is a very time consuming process but one-by-one they're being revived. Mainly thanks to an awesome guy named Shuouma who is some sort of super genius.
I think I'll definitely be playing some phantasy star online now.
RJMMac The focus right now is on the NTSC games (as all pal games are online ) as Japan servers where completely different. Maybe one day though
Jessey Lawson dreamcastlive.net has the server software for these games if you want to see it. all linux based. all games connected automatic with dreampi
I recently ordered the Standard DreamPi Kit from the Dreamcast Live Shop. Although the process is non-standard via email and PayPal, do not let that dissuade you from inquiring. The service they provide is fantastic! They respond promptly, inform you of the process throughout, and seem to be truly interested in having others join the community. I highly recommend them. I can't wait to get back online with my Dreamcast.
Can I do it on my TV with the Dreampie Iam new to the dreamcast I got it last year for my 2000 video games Collection so can any one give me a heads up
I'm glad people are still keeping the Dreamcast alive, I still have mine but the time I got my first Dreamcast it was discontinued
We are two
i bought dreampi in december... and men... is so amazing play all this games online again... this is growing up really fast, i dont think is temporary... dreamcast will live forever...
Greatings from Portugal
Tiago Magalhães how was there anyone online still?
‘And men’
Appreciate the awesome how-to on all of this! I'm happy to see they have all-in-one bundles as well too in order to make the setup easier. I'm not sure if you've delved into this, but from what I understand you can use the same type of setup to get the Saturn online as well.
Technically you can only use the Saturn web browser with DreamPi. The actual games are direct dial and not really "online". You can play Saturn NetLink games if you still have a landline phone. VOIP solutions have been found as well.
pm me
Most of the games with online are best experienced elsewhere but phantasy star online alone is worth this effort.
Actually 10 out of 16 games aren't playable online anywhere else. ;-)
Starlancer is on PC, Worms World party is on pc, Quake 3 is on pc, Chu chu Rocket android, Sonic Adventure is on PC though i can't remember if it has online. Tetris i'm not sure on this particular version but others are available online. 4x4 Evolution is playable on pc. So thats 7 (assuming sonic can have the online function on PC). The rest of the games are alot less exciting in my opinion (not saying their bad games). That said there's a couple not working yet that could be amazing. I'll probably do this to relive Phantasy Star Online as it was the game that brought me and my best mate together. Not hating just saying the games i played online back then are mostly available elsewhere .
ChuChu Rocket! actually isn't available on smartphones anymore. Sega removed it. Even when it was available though, it didn't have an online mode. Next Tetris only had an online mode on the North American Dreamcast version. I didn't count Sonic Adventure because it's not really online multiplayer; it just has a website and leaderboards. Starlancer is on PC but the online mode no longer works.
Didn't know that they'd removed Chu chu rocket, i got it a few years ago and i'm sure i played it online then though. Starlancer is still playable online as far as i know. It was a recently as last year unless something has changed. Next Tetris fair point but i did say that other version are available and lets face it, its all tetris. Agreed on Sonic adventure not a real online experience.
The iOS version of ChuChu had local multiplayer over Wi-Fi but no online play. The Android version didn't even have that though. I forget if the PC version of Starlancer used GameSpy but if it did, it went offline in 2014 when they closed their doors.
Such a fantastic little solution. The Pi basically becomes your DC’s dial up ISP. Great to see such a dedicated community for this. Makes me want to poke around playing online with my OGXBox.
Mr Lurch Pretty much the same with my PS2, but the only LAN game I own is Jak X
+COOLPORN469
Wrong. All you gotta do is plug your Xbox into your Modem, install the XLink KAI software, it then searches your modem for the OGXbox port, transfers it over and well done there you go.
No need to be an arsehole about it
Wasn't expecting this video so soon! dreampi has truly made it so much easier for users to get back online. Let's hope more people get on board and grow the community even more. Great video as always mate :)
Still have 2 Dreamcasts, my first one and another one I repaired the door switch on. Really had a great time playing phantasy star, football and quake. My daughters boyfriend at the time actually walked in and asked who (football team) was playing, he really thought he was watching an actual (not video game) game. Great console, had really good PC ports as well.
I bought a Dreamcast some months ago, and, wow, for me it was amazing. I bought some games for it (Shenmue, Resident Evil 2 and 3, Alone in the dark, Phantasy Star Online, Soul Calibur, etc...) and all of them looked amazing.
It is just and amazing piece of hardware that failed, but a very very interesting one.
Josgs be sure to get a vga box. Makes your dreamcast graphics look even better!
Dont forget shenmue 3 isnt far off now, :)
It was Sega that failed. They took all the hard learned lessons from the Saturn mess, corrected all the problems. They had the Dreamcast devkits out well in advance. They had a decent game lineup at launch. Dreamcast didn't have the funky dual CPU setup of the Saturn that had so many games using half the console's capability. (Sega should have made it a requirement to use the full power of Saturn, and to help with that should have communicated far better to the game companies how to do it.)
But then Sega did that stupid "It's Thinking" ad campaign, dumped the SEGA! scream, and worst of all they did not have SegaNet ready at launch. That lack had some of the early games being published without the online multiplayer they were intended to have, like Armada. Then when a short time later Sega stabbed Dreamcast to death by announcing they'd make no more home consoles, it was done.
Leaving the CD-R boot capability in the firmware, which opened the door to burned game copies, likely didn't have all that huge an influence. It took forever and week to rip a game through the serial port, then if the game was over 750 meg, stuff either had to be left out and the game hacked to ignore the missing stuff, or massively compress and reduce the quality of textures and audio. Could hack a game to ignore missing music files, or replace them with silent dummy files a few K size so they'd 'play' but not actually do anything.
Downloading 750 meg ISO files was a difficult thing in the days when most people had dialup.
So Dreamcast pirates had to be quite patient and live with games that looked bad and/or sounded bad. If you had the $ to afford broadband you had the $ to just buy the games.
Going out on the web as a kid was something really special for me everytime i had the oppurtunity!
I've been trying to get my Dreamcast back online for years! Just short of paying a ridiculous price for a broadband adapter or getting a subcription to old school dsl, I have yet to manage to get my physical console back online. This is the perfect solution! I salute you and the creators of such a needed device! I've seen many forums dicussing the lack of broadband modems left in the wild and solutions to this problem and this fits like a glove!
Nice work. Dreamcast was robbed of its place in history. Good on you for preserving this stuff.
Thanks for all your awesome work on the OG Xbox. I'm still using my modded xbox today.
I needed another reason to call the Sega Dreamcast my favourite gaming console.
Man, that 8bitguy Tape Drive video really paid off, your channel's awesome man, I've watched all the original Xbox videos and this stuff keeps me coming back.
Lord. If that video was actual VGA from the Dreamcast, I missed out. The visuals are so smooth and clean.
It was still fun to play on my little 12 inch bedroom CRT as a kid, and again on PC when the SCHTHACK servers first came up back in the 00's!
All the time spent grinding mags and killing the Dragon and Dark Falz over... and over... and over...
Really glad to see there is a semi plug n' play solution now... I remember putting together a Linux dial-up server to bridge my DSL connection to my DC. One of my first Linux projects and probably laid the foundation for my future career in Networking and Telco.
I had the broadband adapter and keyboard, sold it around the year 2006 for a couple hundred dollars. No idea what it's worth today, but they were very rare.
You shoulda kept that Broadband Adapter. Those are extremely rare and go for about a thousand bucks online.
@@wales2k4747 Thanks mate!, Good to know that DC price point bit, I have a NIB Dreamcast Broadband Adapter! - I have never used it. I bought it in about 2008 for about $200, and lol, i thought that was high priced at the time. Guy in video said he experienced some lag in the online Quake session, cause of the routing through the stock DC modem, I bet using the DC Broadband Adapter it would not lag. Well, looks like I have some decisions to make, use it for some online DC games such as Quake and Phantasy Star and see if I enjoy it or sell it on ebay or a Dreamcast forum. Cheers.
This video rulez just because you learn something new about the Dreamcast. At least I didn't know about the Networking capabilities of this device.
When Phantasy Star Online music started to play I started to cry. SO beautiful memories. Thankyou
I just picked up a dreamcast for my collection and channel. It came with a couple of web browser discs and thats how I found this vid. I had no idea that there was a community of users still keeping this alive. Thanks for sharing.
*Faster than Nintendo internet*
Wii: takes 10 years to load
DSi: takes 100 millenniums to load
Dreamcast: 1 hour to load
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
The mario kart ds was fun and fast but that was a couple of years ago
The 3DS Internet for me it was OK, it loads some pages like 30 seconds or 1 minute (for me), i remember that my Phone stopped working and started to use Twitter on the Web Browser that comes installed with the console
Sega does what nintendon´t
GAME OVER YEAAAHHHH
I've had a working DreamPi for roughly six months and I can confirm it is incredible. You can buy a complete kit as the author of this video has or you can make your own pretty easily as I did. If you already have a RaspberryPi laying around that you tinker with and have even a small amount of soldering experience they are cheap and easy to make!
I also want to reiterate from the video that the Dreamcast community is the best in retro gaming. It's very noob-friendly, all are welcome!
It's always great to see the projects like this keeping services for older hardware online, looks like it works super well. Awesome stuff!
Thanks for creating this video. I recently rebought a dreamcast and wanted to get back online and this has helped me alot
I'm still amazed by how good Dreamcast games look graphically. It feels like the biggest jump ever. I have no idea how they did it.
dude awesome video didn't know there was a community for this . thanks
I should join the community
+Quick Look n Teardown do it
What a great video! I remember how happy I was when i managed to play online for the first time in 2005. Maybe I'll do it again! Thanks!
To me, you've got the best way of explaining and really interresting video's! Love it!
Yeah that's cool and all, but can it play
*C O O L M A T H G A M E S ?*
Nah man, Poptropica and Solid Games was where it's at
Not for long.
Ok Andrew yang
@Dafood Zafar I Think He Does
Possibly actually. The browser it’s got is quite primitive BUT if somebody made a more capable browser then it’d run coolmathgames no problem.
Awesome!!! On my shopping list =D
I remember taking my Dreamcast online only once; I played Phantasy Star Online briefly that way. I've been wanting to bring it back online again (and also I did want to find a Broadband Adapter so I could utilize it in running NetBSD on my Dreamcast!), so I may consider a DreamPi!
Great video, MVG! 😁
Dude! Thank you so much. I've been trying for ages to find a simple way to get my DreamCast on the internet. I'm gonna try this as soon as I can!
This is more than nostalgia! WOW!!!
SEGA we need you to make a new game console and handheld!
This is cool video into the features of the Sega Dream Cast. It great to see that the Dream cast was so far ahead in terms of online gaming. I'm going to purchase one of these consoles to help keep the dream alive!! Furthermore, with the addition of the dream pi, it's cool to see that users can still experience online gaming with the Dream cast! Keep the content coming MVG!!
1:12 Sega/Net started in 2000 & ended in 2004, NFL & NHL 2k2 supported Sega/Net & it was NetLink for Saturn. The official Sega/Net for Dreamcast didn't start until 2000, Dreamcast was discontinued in 2001....
You know, it's funny. I went online for the first time in the mid 90s for the sole reason to play my first ever MMORPG - Meridian 59, before I lost a bit of my life in Ultima Online and Everquest. And yet, going online with old consoles was and still is always so intriguing for me despite playing games on the internet for so long.
I still remember the first time I went online with my PS2 to play FF XI, I was blown away. Thank you for doing the video, it was interesting to see a solution to the insane prices of the broadband adapters.
I always wanted to do this to. To go back in time when the internet was legit.
Dude! Awesome channel and info. Gonna pick up the next dreamcast I see. Wanted one as a kid. Gonna be sweet to play in 2019
Another great videos as aways, tks for this content man, i really enjoy =D
Phantasy Star is worth it by itself.
Broadband adapters are “cost prohibitive” for people playing Dreamcast online in 2018? Every Dreamcast fan still in 2018 doesn’t seem to be prohibited by cost when I look at the rest of their collections...
This channel is honestly a hidden gem, love your videos, keep up the retro love!!! >:'D
It's cool to see what kind of process is needed to help th is retro gaming machine on back on the Internet. I will have obtain dream pi ASAP, this way the Dreamcast is still dreaming online! Great video, keep the content coming!
WOW! :^0 my Dreamcast will be alive again
Why recommend the mouse at the beginning when you’re just gonna say half way through the video that it doesn’t even work with the browser?? 😂
7:40 this is probably why
This makes me so happy. I grew up with the Dreamcast but I never had the chance to play online. I really hope they find a way to get Daytona USA to work, I would finally be able to unlock the Red Cat which you can only get by winning online matches. Thank you so much for sharing this
Great video. Always interesting to see these old consoles being adapted for the modern world. 😀
@Modern Vintage Gamer hey could you do a set up for Xlink kai for the original/OG Xbox? Thanks!
^ this
already in the works :)
I know this is an US/NTSC Dreamcast, however, do you know if I could somehow direct connect the Dreamcast to a USB modem that's attached to a Rasberry?
Sources usually mention PAL modems require two line voltage reducers in the cable so everything works but also one to be there for US/JP modems to work.
So did you just have luck with your USB modem?
Line voltage inducer not "reducer". lol His modem is modified with the inducer built in. It still only works with US/JP Dreamcast modems though. If you have a PAL Dreamcast, you can either import a US/JP modem and use it with your PAL Dreamcast or use a separate 18v line voltage inducer cable that plugs into a second USB port on the Pi.
My bad but now that I looked at the Dreamcastlive website, they also seem to sell PAL USB modems for the Raspberry (or any other Linux machine for that matter).
Do these still need modifications or is it just as plug and play?
They're not USB modems, they're cables that plug into a separate USB modem that you need to buy yourself. No modification required. You just plug it in.
Love these kinds of videos. It's very important to preserve stuff like this as a historical record.
So much potential on this system, amazing. Great work!
Very cool.
Ah, Dreamcast...my first computer
its a video game system not a computer
moi r/whoos
I'm definitely interested in getting one now, awesome channel by the way!
thank you for your videos,growing up in the 90s and 2000s were the best years in gaming..
with the 16meg of ram the dreamcast has,it will be very hard to make a modern browser due to the pages sizes nowdays...
It's doable
Late to reply, but with a Gdemu mod, someone could use some sdcard space as ram, could they not?
Make sure you get your parents permission before going online
Nah I’m too cool for school, that’s why I got sega instead of stupid fucking Nintendo 😎😎😎
I see you with that Headhunter background music. :) Great video, man! And yeah I'm sold.. I'm totally getting a DreamPi! :D
Great video dude! It's funny, you have the regular players in the console race-- Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. And they've been releasing new platforms -- the PS3, the PS4, the Xbox 360 and Xbox One, the Wii U and the Switch.... I wish Sega sees this video at some point, just so they know what kind of impact they've made in the past 20 years.... with _one console._
man dat loading screen song on PSO. i spent hours on that game.
Who didn't? PSO was the game to have!
10:10 It wouldn't be an online racer without ramming no matter how old or small the community may be
This is awesome. I'm definitely going to using one of my extra Pis for this when I finally get around to picking up a Dreamcast.
your videos always gives me the nostalgic feel
So if the Pi just simulates a dial up ISP, can you connect it to other dial up hardware, like a Saturn or old PC?
Yes in theory it should also work with Saturn Netlink
It does work with the NetLink.
Thankfully, the NetLink adaptor is pretty cheap even now.
My kind of things.
Hey, you might not see this, but, you're the reason I bought this. And I've loved it, and played on it daily ever since. Fantastic stuff man, thank you!
Loved this video . Still love Dreamcast but I haven’t played one since the early 2000s. Definitely want to get one here soon
did it in 2016 ;-)
It’s worth for sega fans and peoples with nostalgia desires only, not for the general consummer,but it’s amezing what they have done here,
Now if the only update the browser to support all kind off stuff to run youtube,facebook etc,,, that would be cool.
I got bought my first Dreamcast in winter of 2002 when I was 11 years old. I missed the boat on the online features of the system, but regardless I fell in love with the console. I’ve always wished for an easy way to experience Dreamcast online, and I believe my wish has been granted. I will certainly be getting a DreamPi in the near future, and look forward to joining the online community!
I will definitely be getting this. Was a huge fan of many online games on the DC back in the day.
You say Sega weird.
Japanese say SehGah
Yanks say SayGuh
'Strayans say Seega
You seem to be combining the yank way and the aussie way? Se-ay-ga?
I wonder what Sega's recent visit to Microsoft will yield.
Part of me is hoping Microsoft will get a license to build an emulator for the DreamCast, so Xbox One owners can replay those Sega gems.
i am very curious about this myself.
That would make sense since some features of the original xbox were based off the dreamcast. i.e 2 memory cards being used on the controller or being able to use a microphone.
+Terminator827 And don't forget Sega's later arcade machines actually used xbox-based hardware. Modern Vintage Gamer has a video on that, too.
If I could play phantasy star online on my xbox one that would mint.
OMG. Head hunter soundtrack in the background. you brought tears to my eyes.
Este video me hizo llorar. Todavía conservo mi dreamcast alado mío como si fuera un tesoro. Saludos desde Argentina y Excelente trabajo!
Can he do the ps2
Only 1 player is now online on dreamcast.online
The Dreamcast was my first step to the internet and i spent sooo many hours browsing the web and playing Quake 3 Arena against people from all over the world. The phone bill was quite heavy thou… but at least with the Dreamkey Browser 3.0 we got the chance to chose our own ISP and the minute price got a lot cheaper. I even had my first Email address at the Dream Arena. Loved uploading levels for Chu Chu Rocket and at one point even shared savegames with other folks. I never loved a console this much before or after. Even today i can proudly look back at having been part of that console online gaming pioneer days while Playsation fanboys still waited for the PS2 and even the online features that all came much later. Even with the 33k modem that we europeans got with our consoles, it was still possible to have lots of fun online. I even had the keyboard. It was a prize that i won when i took part at a online challenge at the Dream Arena. A lot of people got one. And I still have it. Didn't need the mouse. The Keyboard was really the most useful piece of hardware you could get for your online experience. A friend of mine had the mouse and played Quake 3 on the Dreamcast like on a PC.
Great video and look at the views it has! This video should help more people learn about the DreamPi
It would be cool if they made something like this to get the original xbox online again. Not all games have system link and its generally not as good.
yes please!
If they made something that let you play games that were originally designed for Xbox Live, that would be good, but then they would have to make software to emulate Xbox Live too?
Yeah some sort of mod maybe
the xbox is a pc
Nice to see the online side of the DC isn't dead. Too bad the kit costs $75
you can put your own together much cheaper. must of the cost is for the raspberry pi
Great choice of music in the background, all Dreamcast classics.
Wow! I never played online back in the day. I would love to play online today, pso in partucular. Very cool and informative video, thank you.
етить балдеж, побольше бы таких видосов
он не понимает русский язык
imagine streaming porn on the Dreamcast...
:V
@Jessey Lawson Unless you broadcast both your moms.
Only possible for skin flicks if, like he says in the video, someone ports over a modern internet browser to the DC, and prolly need a broadband adapter or a similar newer solution for faster data speed. Course, pr0n pictures could be do-able, if thats enough for you, lol hehe!
That's awesome! I think this could turn into something really amazing. I want a DreamPi now! :)
🙂
That MSR Music at the beginning. Club Paris was the best song on that soundtrack.
Kind of makes me wonder if/when big gaming companies are going to take official notice of this and realize that people are turning in droves to this kind of content since literally everything on today's consoles is riddled with pc culture and unoriginality...
Nick Dews it isn't they don't realise they can profit from it it is more like there isn't enough profit. They would literally have to restock shelves with old systems and hire people to maintain the community by offering more ram/faster servers. For now we should just leave it to the people with no lives to figure out.
PC culture to you probably means women, minorities and LGBT people just existing lol.
This is soo cool. I love my Dreamcast. I may be trying out dreampi sometime this year
Very cool stuff, I only got a Dreamcast in a Goodwill find about 2 years ago, but it was complete in the box, along with a keyboard in the box, and I recently found a copy of the web browser at the same location, and I've slowly been collecting games for the Dreamcast when I can find them at decent prices, so I'll have to look into this when I have the spare time. :-)
Well played sir!
Thanks for posting this!!
I have all this set, remarkably. Thanks for detailed video.
Omg my nostalgia level is through the roof! Love it🤗🤗
Sometimes getting a Dreamcast crossed my mind... Playing online would be awesome! I recently did it with the PS2, and I can tell, it feels great being able to play online trough old consoles, just like we did back in the day!
I remember playing PSO ver. 2.0 online with the dreamcast back in the day, and the keyboard made it so easy to communicate in that game.