PlayStation 5 Teardown Analysis: Inside Sony's Next Generation Hardware Design
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Sony has finally revealed the core hardware design for the PlayStation 5 with the reveal of its long awaited console teardown. Here's Rich with some thoughts on the make-up of the new machine.
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By the way, interesting fact - another thing Wi-Fi 6 is used for? _Wireless VR headsets._
PSVR 2 Baby!
Yeah wireless is a no brainer for PSVR 2.
I would still recommend Ethernet for this, if you have access to this option the delay will be better.
@@mijvlogs9520 no one is talking about ethernet
That would be output which would take extra antenna. This is probably just a receiver. The PSVR would likely come with external antenna just for better range.
I never considered that the curvey design would make it more "idiot proof" by making it harder to block intakes and exhausts.
@MertensCW Sony's audience can unscrew a screw though, so no matter how dumb they may be they're still smarter than Xbots.
@@souljastation5463 you must be fun at parties
It does make me cringe a little to see the Xbox Series X with its top fan. I'm absolutely expecting that to get crammed into a cubby in someone's media center, blasting hot air straight into a piece of particle board. Many of the Xbox designs have really dumb thermal layouts - particularly top-exhausting fans (360 S, One S). You'd think they would learn.
OTOH, the PS4 had more thermal _issues_ than the XB1, so I guess you never know.
@@souljastation5463 Your assuming they can unscrew. Just cause Sony added a screw doesnt mean people will know how to use it. I can bet 99 percent of the people will never touch it.
That's because you are an idiot.
I jest of course.
I'm just gonna put my hamster in there to increase my fan speed by 200%
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah!
Hell yeah!
Hell yeah.
Heavens no!
"But it's surely just a matter of time, right?" with a wink. I see you Rich.
Glad to have the T-1000 keeping my CPU safe
The PS5 pro will have the T-X to keep it cool,lol ☺️
As long as your not a john or Sarah conner your good
As long as the T-1000 stays put. Otherwise it'll be judgement day for your ps5.
Glad? It can get on the motherboard and kill it.
@@tantalus5370 the fact your comment received so little appreciation shows the age of commenters here.
16:10 Richard: '' We genuinely don't have a ps5 in-house but it's surely just a matter of time right?'' XD Priceless
it was in a box outside the building.
It is a matter of time till they are allowed to say that they had it the whole time.
Consider that digital foundry showed bias by Microsoft, it makes more sense Sony doesn't trust digital foundry.
@@dra6o0n they always show bias? whoever sends them stuff gets looked at more.
@@dra6o0n trust them how? Digital Foundry is hardcore fact oriented.
Microsoft got a lot of flack from them last gen when Multi-plat titles weren't performing as they should considering the One X was stronger then the Pro.
The David Attenborough of the games industry. Wonderful video as usual Richard.
DF seems to be salty that Sony don't give a shit about them
Sure😂
That's Why they are so salty 😟
An easily replaceable shell makes it ideal for special editions or even themed shells included with special edition versions of games like with the xbox 360. I liked that concept a lot.
It's easy money for them and a lot of fun and personalization options for us. Very good idea. I remember when phones had this feature in the past, there was a huge market for that. I had like 3-4 different shells for mine, swapping them when I felt like it. Fun times.
It'll be so easy to 3d print those side panels
I think we will get to see some wild custom designs which will be really cool
@@marcuslightbody6933 im definitely getting into the custom ps5 biz lol
It kind of shoots special editions in the foot. Unless they change the central unit color, you can just snag new plates.
But that push and slide removal is kinda dumb imo, I think they could have done better.
"Toyota like" is a very good way to describe the design
What does that mean ? ^^
That's actually weirdly accurate lol
@@ArmGunnar it very simple and basic but will work well lots of easy to fit bits like a toyota car. Easy to assemble and disassemble
Yeah cheap and nasty looking but efficient.
@@ArmGunnar i think thats their way of saying, "cheap".
With how easy it looks to remove the side panels I really hope we get custom side panels for it. That'd be so sick.
It only makes sense but we’ll see.
If we can't, we will be definitely be able to easily customize them ourselves 😄
i always see videogame fans drooling about this feature, yet i can't see a single case when it took of in any meaningful way. And there has been many examples of detachable plates in the past.
@@Refreshment01 so? Is that bad or something? Of course not. We are just saying it's a cool feature. Also, it's use is actually to obviously be able to clean the ps5 from the inside, so they do have a use.
3d printed custom designs are gonna be some of the best
That PS5 looks like it could crush that man
Right. Shit is huge.
Gimme the shape of the Xbox X.
This thing is gaudy and huge. Sony, not everyone is 15.
@@advanceddarkness3 i too think the xbox looks better; would’ve loved to see a white one though as it would’ve paired better with my entertainment setup.
@@AnastasiaLUVSU or that dude is tiny lol
advanceddarkness3 it looks cool and futuristic,boomer
Does Richard come with a bespoke heatsink or are the hand fans enough cooling?
Richard bleeds liquid metal.
HEY COUSIN, HOW ARE YOO
🤣
lets get naughty >:)
I hear rumors about Richard over heating, apparently that's why they're delaying him.
It seems as though the large PCB for the PS5 and relatively spaced out components are designed in a way as to reduce the thermal density of the PCB and make it easier to cool.
Also reduces eletromagnetic interference.
@FührêrFPöñê don’t be a hater all your life
@FührêrFPöñê How
Ironic the fanboying sheep, telling people not to fanboy 😭 lol
Also increases latency and power needed so the benefits arent as great as you would think.
@FührêrFPöñê it's not over clocked
5:20 - when bae’s story doesn’t add up
Imagine saying "bae".
@@officialwattzmusic wasn’t me
Lots of people seem confused about the purpose of this channel, I posted this somewhere else and am more or less putting it here.
You do realize that this entire channel is about comparing specs, power, graphics, consistency, etc right? That's the reason the channel exist.
When DF have talked about series X and not mentioned other tech, that's with embargoed hardware. If Sony gave them a system, they would be under similar embargo and follow it, and have a reason to make more PS5 content.
Once they own both consoles free and clear of embargo the only thing they will do is compare them critically in every aspect. Loading times, graphics, performance, thermals, noise, etc.
If you just want to hear Sony opinions devoid of any and all other tech perspective, either pressure Sony to give them a PS5 under an embargo preventing direct competative comparisons or go to channels a different channel on TH-cam. Plenty of them cranking out lots of pro Sony opinions while also talking about the tech specs. DF isn't one of them, comparisons is what you should be here to hear.
Sooo quick question, since digital foundry is so biased. When they were analyzing Halo Infinite, why did they fail to mention SO many things;resolution, frame fates, textures and pop-in just to name a few? Let’s not talk about Dirt 5 also. Another question, which video did they do more analysis on Miles Morales or Halo Infinite?
Wondered about the relatively bad like/dislike ratio. Butthurt fans, it seems.
@Beastcraft So what does being a bigger title(according to you) have anything to do with the LACK of analysis they did on Halo? The fact that a “dlc” looks way better than Halo should tell you something😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@CosmeFulanito95 So omitting frame rates, bad textures, ridiculous amount of pop-in, not mentioning the absence of ray tracing, was not on purpose to you?!? For some reason people wonder why Sony is not sending them anything 😂😂
When you title a video "PlayStation 5 Teardown Analysis: Inside Sony's Next Generation Hardware Design" you don't expect a PS5 vs XsX video
also I find it odd that the whole video is comparing the XsX with PS5 until it to a point PS5 does something better. Example the Wifi 6, instead of comparing it to Wifi 5 that XsX uses they then start bring up theatrically crap to down play it.
this video was trash
This is a very bizarre video. Wichard says Xbox more times than ps5 on the ps5 analysis video...
It's just weird...
Secondly pretending we don't know anything about the ps5 when cerny literally delivered an hour long, at times almost university lecture, detailing the hardware and software features of the ps5 in March that's been watched like 33 million times. Are we really going to pretend we don't know anything? Still? Do u have amnesia?
Do you forget that we had a private invitation to chat about PS5 with Cerny himself and did multiple videos on this? None of this was focused directly on the box (ie - cooling, physical factor). Oh, I'm sorry, you weren't invited.
@@dark1x I know you are not the actual John so yeah I'm not actually gonna give you a reaction. John has always been a level headed guy.
But the fact that Eurogamer also had a sit down with cerny means its even stranger to say you don't know anything about the console or that it's all a mystery. Don't you think? Secondly interms of cooling thought. Stripping the console down and showing you the insides. What more do you need? You don't need a physics degree to understand cooling with liquid metal. Gamer's nexus has many videos on the subject and also that fan is thiccc.
Digital Foundry chose the corporations over their fans going into the next generation of gaming...and we reward them with 1million subscribers!!!
I got exactly the same feeling, as if some certain corporation runs a paid promotion campaign via youtube's mainstream channels :)
@@spenny2cents Then don’t watch
Just to point out, there are another three SSD chips on the board, but on the other side of it. and each of those chips have two flash chips in it, hence the 12 channels cerny talked about.
Ifix it : Repairability 2/10
@@ShinyMooTank depends on exactly one factor: will sony allow you to boot the system from the external m.2 drive?
If yes, then it's not an awfully big deal.
Thanks for doing their job for them you deserve more 👍
@2WIREG probably like the ps3 where it could install the os to any new drive
@2WIREG Sony can provide an option to transfer the OS. Just like how you could transfer the OS from flash chip of 12 GB PS3 to user installed hard drive. Though SSD longevity isn't as much of an issue as people think it will outlast most of the other components.
He sounds exactly like Barry Norman who did the film show for decades on the BBC. His voice is soothing, calm and reassuring. He could literally be telling me I have 3 weeks to live and I'd be ok with it 👍👍✌️
It's amazing how people stand up for brands, how they feel so hurt, when they attack a company that in the end only sees them as money
No. Microsoft and Sony love us more than our own parents!!
I let the games decide. That's why i stick to Sony.
For real, especially when you can just buy both and enjoy best of both worlds...
@@Vislav I stick to Sony cause 1. All my Friends play on the PS 2. In these days you wont need a Xbox cause everything will come to PC 3. idk i also like my switch
@@mrn234 yeah, pc has been the best option but people who can't afford it they can buy a xsx, or even a xss if they don't have a 4k tv.
Came here for Rich’s enthusiasm towards PS5 hardware
Left knowing more about the Series X
And what . Don't you Sony fanboy cry over everything 🐴
Yet everyone wants PS5 overwhelmingly over the Series X. Sounds like Sony know marketing and Microsoft aren't very good at making people want their hardware.
Gotta get that sponsorship plug in
Lol... True!
Biased they are
🤣🤣👌
As a practical gamer . I always connect my consoles and PC to ethernet.
Yeah me too. even though my wifi is really good. If the device is stationary why not.
It's probably for the PSVR2 which is rumored to use WiFi
@@marcovalk7845 That would be from the console via an antenna not your router. It would add latency if it beamed it to your router instead of directly to it.
I use ethernet from MoCA as my setup is about 200ft from my router. Still get about 300-500mbps up and down out of the gigabyte I pay for.
I have in the past, but new room layout-and destructive toddlers-means I will run the PS5 wireless this gen. It will sit up beside the tv, safe and sound.
It's like you listen to a fairytale being read by a great storyteller
Like the Fable trailer
@@danielpedraza6455 not!
The expansion SSD location is strategically distanced from the main board heat yet within a significant airflow channel. It should be fine for slim profile SSDs with thin layer heat/shield.
Looks deep enough for a low profile heatsink to be attached too
It is very, very inconvenient the location they chose. The fact that you have to open the console to add more storage is just bad design for consumers.
@@hectordelarocha10 it's out of the way, appears to be actively cooled, doesn't require proprietary tech and you need to open the console anyway to hoover out dust build up. It's not that big a deal unless you're a child. Literally look up a video on it when it comes out and it could take you step by step through the process. It's easy if a little unnerving at first
@@hectordelarocha10 literally remove one plate and one screw, if you can't handle that then get a xbox series x
@@hectordelarocha10 No, just morons like you.
"I'm a bit curious about this bae" that's a bit familiar Rich, we barely know each other.
Richard "Curious Bae" Leadbetter.
5:18
Mfw rich calls me bae 😳
Richard is a good, faithful man
All you can see from DF is the disappointment not having a PS5 at home
I feel like this is the elegante explanation of explaining the hardware. I can see you drinking tea and hearing classical music when giving the explanation
I digress a bit but every time I see a diagram of a CPU like that it blows my mind. It’s insane how we’ve managed to figure out a way to create a mini brain made of billions of transistors at such a scale.
DF says "Devs have said they love working with the PS5" - Xbox Fanboys - "Xbox is the most powerful console... I don't understand, DF is biased!"
DF says "It's interesting to see the divergent design solutions for the same challenges between Series X and PS5" - PS Fanboys "how dare you to mention a rival console, DF is biased!"
Ya'll are petulant man-children. Cant we all just be excited about the new tech and see how it pushes future growth for the industry? No? Alrighty then, guess ill go fuck myself.
This was a lot more than comparing the 2. I felt Rich was not happy about not getting a PS5 press kit so he showed it here. I don't understand why he think he would get one after most likely striking a deal with MS.
@@Gravy1255 No one is getting them. Sony is being really weird with this launch. Even LTT got a few Xbox's but not a single PS5.
100% This should be the top comment.
@@Gravy1255 Well Digital Foundry isn't the only one who got the console. So I'm assuming everyone who got one has stricken a deal with Microsoft? Oh, Gravy 1255 your fanboyism is showing best get that checked before you get a rash.
@@Scuxguy Digital Foundry is the only “journalist” site I’ve seen who was flown out to Microsoft and GIVEN THE MAIN CHIP as a gift... what’s your response to that?
Sweet, was wondering what you had to say about this!
No problem.
@@Exoamylase now hang on a second ;)
Fk DF they are shills
@@rinkumultani6515 you're blaming them because Sony didn't send them a unit for preview?
Not really wrong tho, they are moving shifty lately.
DF biased? How ironic. I remember during the PS3/360 days and earlier PS4/XB1 days, everyone accused them of being Sony biased. How quickly everyone forgets. Maybe they’re just telling it like it is?
I know, so wild.
No, df gets accused of bias all the time because they praise one thing over the other in comparison videos. Here, he has a completely different mood and attitude.
You do realise DF ARE basically sponsored by MS in order to promote their consoles exclusively, right?
@@unrelatedpopcornfire9823 the whole point of DF is to compare things, scrutinise the details etc. That process will always result in praise for the superior product/version/iteration. It seems from everything we know (specs, engineering - the nuts and bolts) Xbox is ahead somewhat. That reflects in their commentary. Again, that’s the whole point of DF.
The juvenile conspiracy stuff about bias and payoffs is predictable and sad. Like I said, this has happened before, but last time it was Xbox fanboys crying shill.
@@kraenk12 ‘basically sponsored’ how? What does that even mean?
Thanks for telling me all about the Xbox Series X.
I'm down with the large size. My PC was overheating and all I did was get a nice large tower for it, fixed the problem straight away. No heating issues and no longer hear the fans
Should've have used water cooling and Be Quiet products
I just use an AIO. My 9900K is set to 5GHz locked and never passes 75 degrees.
@2WIREG the Xbox is more powerful but likely not by much. It has about 40% more cores but the PS5 has about 30% higher clocks and cores don't tend to scale performance as linearly as clock speed. I expect both to be nearly identical with both basically having the same game settings. Perhaps very rarely the Xbox will have better performance but just barely. They are fairly close. Though I expect the Xbox to run ray tracing better as RT cores are related to core count on the GPU and it does have nearly double the GPU cores.
@@Skylancer727 Richard couldn't have said it better himself
@@ls200076 much more expensive and not a reliable solution. Getting a larger case is the cheapest solution, which it was.
Is it me or does every DF video try and put down the PS5 and bag up the XBSX?? Did they see something different with the Dirt 5 game play than the rest of us....massive screen tearing, sub par graphics and no RT. All DF went on about was how its good for next Gen, where? Id be ashamed DF?
Its been a thing that's been happening for a fair while now
And they expect us not to notice 🙄
Don't forget Series X will have 0 ray tracing games at launch but PS5 will
@Beastcraft Nope, PS5 is better
@@fendykurniawan3614 Idk man, Sony is very selective how they show it off. Almost like 2013 Xbox
We will be playing games on the series X while PONYS be trying to figure out how to use a screw driver to install their ssd😂😂 trying to decide how they're going to fit it in their living room 😂
The need to remove the case and hoover out those vents Is tad worrying
@@waynebarton3622 no it's not. That's reassuring. It means that years down the line if you never bothered to clean it and it's getting loud or overheating you can easily clean it out. Xbox doesn't have that same level of ease. It's clear to see who's a pc user vs just console. Having an easy way to clean your system is fantastic as dust always accumulates and negatively affects thermals and therefore performance of a system.
I like when companies make funny marketing jabs at each other , I enjoy this one as well with the stand , but I prefer the ps5 method of the stand. I don’t like how the series X looks with the stand sideways
Yeah, I think it’s because of the Xbox logo, it just looks like it’s wrong. They’ve had successful jabs at Sony before but the one about the stand was pretty off. Firstly, the overall teardown was pretty great and the PS5’s stand is clearly not as basic and ‘cheap’ as people expected it to be, I think that jab was just a failed joke on their part.
@@narukami6364 yeah I completely agree with that , that was my exact thought when I saw that
@@narukami6364 Yeah. Imo both consoles look far better vertical. Horizontal seems like a consumer decision
bro why did you hit rihanna that's not cool
@Marlon Te Vrede then why would they post it being able to put sideways ?
DRINK every time Rich brings up Xbox during his PlayStation breakdown video
I'm wrecked after 5 minutes
They have been comparing consoles for awhile now. What else do you want from them?
They bring up the PS5 just as often in their Xbox videos. Why do people just assume they are wanking off to Microsoft? If you are talking about one you talk about the other to compare what they are doing. That's journalism, that's not selling out. It's not like they praised the Xbox having higher Tflops, etc. They just compared them. That's the whole point of the video.
@@Skylancer727 Watch any of their Series X videos and you'll see they wank Series X/S off. Alex Battaglia goes full fanboy gushing over that garbage Dirt 5 preview, he skipped the fact it has pop in, claims things will be fixed because all the issues are up to "not the final version like 100 times in the video". He complained about Demons Souls and complained he couldn't see any Ray tracing, funny how that never came up in Dirt 5 preview at all. Clean out your bias and actually listen to the difference when they critique PlayStation versus anything Xbox.
@@xxFireFighterxx They expect them to say PS5>Series X. It's a trend that will continue. If the PS5 is better, the numbers prove that and DF reports on their findings, they'll be called Sony shills, and if the Series X performs better and the numbers show it, they'll be called MS shills. You can't reason with fanatics.
Can't wait to see those performance graphs for the first third party comparison with PS5/SO/SX/LastGen
Yea I can’t either since Xbox fans are saying there is gonna be a massive difference but in reality that’s not the case the series x has 15% more gpu power
@@chasethechosenone8478 its not exactly that easy. I think at the start of the gen the difference won't be as big, later down the road when devs are pushing the cpu i can see the xbox pulling ahead.
@@chasethechosenone8478 Xbox will most likely have better Ray tracing. Other than that I don't think there'll be much of a difference.
@@chasethechosenone8478 Dream on :-) The Microsoft console's GPU has 52 compute units - PS5: 36. This suggests the Series X may have 1.5x the graphics power. And more units are clear faster compared to higher clock rates. DF proved it. Also the raytracing performance is much better on Series X. Not to forget: the Series X CPU is also faster plus PS5 has only 10 TF with boost mode. By default the console has only 9 TF … So please wake up!
@Joan Amaya and have we seen that? No are we going to? No. Do games look better on PS5 yes. How much better is the cpu on series x 1-2% which is nothing they are pretty much the same the ps5 is 3.5 with smt and series x is 3.6 with smt and no you can’t get a big gap difference with 15% more gpu power the real gap is the 3x throughput performance and 3x the speed allowing high quality assets and textures having bigger open worlds and bigger open worlds and load times are a million times faster snd the ps5 runs cooler so it’s more efficient faster and better games I’ll stick with ps5
What I learned from watching this video is simple, "Digital Foundry is proudly sponsored by Omen's Wireless Mouse, Keyboard and Headsets" :)
And Microsoft
@@nico5179 stay salty
@@nico5179 SOMEONE'S SAD
@@nico5179 lol
SponsorBlock did - as always - a good job for me. ;)
5:18 That's rather over familiar, Richard. I'd prefer it if you called me sir at this point in our relationship.
Opening your console DOES NOT void your warranty (at least not in the USA or EU) unless Sony or Microsoft can PROVE that your disassembly caused damage to components.
This perception/myth that you void your warranty and the stickers that say so are literally illegal and anti-consumer.
Correct. Those stickers count for nothing in the EU.
He is in Japan. It might be true there. IIRC in the US they are valid as long as the maker can prove that you broke something after opening it beyond those boundaries.
If you remove these stickers they could charge you for repare if they find even a tiny dent inside.
The wording of these sticker are now more specific.
Most people would only remove the pannel to add an ssd or vaccum the dust.
If you tear down those sticker you are done
>implying every single viewer of this video is American
Dude its just a blanket term. Chill out
Do a shot for every "bespoke"
im dead now 😵
I was thinking the same. It’s such a British thing
I don’t think I’ve ever used or heard that word used in real life conversations
@@codycast I'm still trying to define the word organically, by listening to its use on this channel. I never hear it anywhere else. I think I'm close to grokking it now. No, I don't want spoilers, or to look it up. It's more fun this way.
@@joesterling4299 I'd like to hear what you've "grokked" so far
Why is everyone using "bespoke" instead of "proprietary" now? It's like how people started saying "applications" instead of "programs"
Honestly I think the culture at Xbox is much better than at Playstation.
That's proven wrong
@@chriscollins3225 lol, you might be right
"maybe I'm getting a bit obsessed by heat dissipation here" idk why but that made me laugh
This is not a PS5 teardown analysis, but a console comparison to Xbox. The salt is definitely there.
Yeah man they are clearly biased
I think the best way to analyze a product would be comparing it with its closest competitive product... Seems the obvious move to make unless you are a jealous fanboy
@@Knorrkator why don't sony send PS5 for teardowns? Are every channel suddenly payed by MS?😂
@@SL1CEND1CEN Oh, did they mention PS5 in every other sentence in XSX teardown also? That’s nice if true.
@@Astralmess You see, super genius... That playstation had not released a breakdown video of their console when microsoft did their teardown. This would make it impossible to compare the xbox teardown to a ps5 teardown that did not exist... Can you summon some brain power before coming up with this crap?
Really put the engineering to these consoles into context...good job by both Xbox and Sony...looking forward to see Whoes solutions are more effective...
DF...you guys are about to have a very Busy 3 months
Remember what I said? Devs are now saying people are going 5o very surprised by the PS5. And even DF (shillers) mentioned that raytracing on SX wouldn't be better or rather inferred that the assumption is potentially not true.
I have spoken extensive about these graphics pipeline efficiencies in PS5 and Inefficiencies in SX. I have been on the money all the way. Maybe later this month well get that Smartshift advantage, GPU cache scrubbers, cache advancements, i/o complex. This is why you'll end up with far better performance on PS5 than SX. Spiderman is 4k 60 with SSR on PS5 and compared to any title ON SX like Halo INFINITE at 4k 60(no RT), AC Vahala 4k 60, dirt 5 4k 60....it blows them out the water. Vast visual advancements over SX.
I cant wait till DF get their hands on a physical copy of the PS5 so they can do their own proper breakdown
@@DualPurpose Big Facts. Sony has shown Next Gen Games running on PS5. Lets see The Series X with their Next Gen games running...
@@DualPurpose ah you're back. I remember your comment on how months back you were saying how MS engineers weren't good enough to come up with a smaller console with a traditional form factor and sony engineers were going to come up with a smaller design. Ironic since the ps5 is so big you need a tugboat to bring it in your house. Keep licking those sony boots
@@DualPurpose where are those 13 tflops???
"kept you waiting uh"
@Z390 😢
The NvME expansion bay on PS5 is actively cooled, you can see what looks like an air duct 5:50 on the video.
Good eye - it does look like an air duct from this point of view. The other side at 5:26 is just the port end.
That's the first thing I looked for when I first saw teardown.
Comments like these make me take DF less and less seriously as time goes by. They really don't take time with certain things, and it shows.
@@BCBtheBeastlyBeast who does better videos than DF? NX gamer is also good. No-one touches these guys IMHO
@@bushkilla7348 Digital Fuctards are paid off by Micro! Period!
Gotta LOVE a fresh cup of Digital Foundry in the morning ☕️☀️❤️
Digitea Foundry
Morning ?
It's night time here 😴🌛
DF: 'We have concerns over the PS5 custom design...'
Microsoft: 'Cheque is in the post boys!'
It's becoming a joke with these guys.
Why you PS5 fanboys are super salty over this one? Is it because they are not exaggerating your favorite console? They are spitting the truth but hey!! You'll call them biased because of your own biaseness, grow up people!
@@darkace0387 You blind? DF videos are sponsored by Microsoft, Microsoft even let them reveal Series X specs!
@@mehrad1983 It seems you are the one ignorant here, watch other TH-camrs as well.. they all have been given early hardware and it's called marketing. It seems you are a child here who have failed to understand their strategy. No one is sponsored, Microsoft does seem to have a better approach here. Just because they haven't given exaggerated praise to your favorite console doesn't make them biased. Grow up already
you need to grow up@@mehrad1983
Sounds like the Series X does indeed have the edge in raw power, but Sony has gone a different route, focusing more on immersion and features such as the Haptic Feedback that are really going to matter to gamers when they actually start to play.
A bit more graphics performance is probably not going to be that big a deal at the end of the day with much more and better games to play on the Sony hardware, along with a better controller with better immersion in general. I think Sony once again will likely dominate the market this console generation.
I am not sure...Sony is following the footsteps of SEGA unfortunately
@@MirzaKhalid What on earth are you talking about? Lol I am pretty darn sure Sony is doing a whole helluva lot better than Sega is doing right now. Are you on some hardcore drugs my friend? Cus you're talking some absolute nonsense.
@@skins4thewin I think you are a moron, nonsense and an idiot too, please check out the documentary on "Console Wars"- where it showed how SEGA managed to take down Nintendo but eventually failed in the end because of SEGA's greed, ego and stupidity to cope up with the recent tech in the late 1990s. Do some research before you bark on someone else's fact you PlayStation fanboy
You predicted it
@@michealadebz Wasn't that hard to predict. It's what Sony has been doing since the PS1 and why they have always been more successful. Did anyone REALLY think Microsoft would beat out Sony this time around?
The Sony platform is just a plain better experience with far better games, and it's better/worse than ever this time around, depending on ur perspective as either a Sony/Microsoft fanboy.
I love RIch's thanks at the end of the video for making it that far "if indeed you did"
Indeed I always do, Rich!
My worry with PS5 is the SSD is soldered straight to the board and SSDs have a set read and write life. It means there will be a point the console is just dead and will no longer work as the SSD stops working and can't be replaced. That may be in 8 years but if the storage is only 600GB, transfering games between hard drives may run it's life shorter.
Yup , about 5 to 7 years.
I'm wondering if the spare m.2 slot/drive can be used for the OS in case of catastrophic failure of the main drive.
Not ideal, but I'd like to think Sony thought of this and it's an option.
dont worry its more then enough reads for 10-15 years for avg users
30th years lifetime transfer 50 gb everyday
@@glenmcl so same for the Xbox yeah?
Guys, I "hit the bell" after every video, per your instructions. However, I only seem to be notified every other video. What gives?
You have to hit the bell just once, that will send you notifications for every video. If you hit it another time, it will turn off notifications
@@julianezequielpdg7347 woooosh
Lol that’s pretty good
@@TheAbvsyork 👍😄👍
😂
Ps5: As Negative As Possible
Xbox: As Positive AS possible+ Damage Control
Heres a breakdown of digital foundry
Micro foundry
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO TALKS THINGS AS THEY ARE
I support PS5, but this guy have a point. I think I’ll get a SX.
PS5 TEARDOWN ANALYSIS: BOUGHT TO YOU BY MICROSOFT 😉
Sony is not trying to be silent..they just let the game do the talking
Not much available at launch though for either system to be fair. To be totally honest only Falconeer has me excited and i can't believe one guy made it lol
lol good luck getting team Ico to save them this gen.
We are in Bizarro World when the Japanese solution is the sledgehammer, go big or go home solution to thermal regulation on a PCB the size of a baseball diamond, and the American solution is the jigsaw internals, compact but big power utility-like industrial design.
Yes. The internal design of the PlayStation 5 looks old-fashioned and cheap compared to Series X.
@@nickgovier Xbox took care of people with that situation. No questions asked iirc.. mine was secondhand and I still received a prepaid "coffin" and got my xbox fixed in a timely manner. It still works. Gotta appreciate when brands stand behind their product.
@@nickgovier I was a PS user since PS1 and my friend Xbox, he chewed through 3 360s in the span of a few years due to RROD while my PS3 is still working to this day, altough the performance has always been better on xbox as far as I can remember (and xbox users get to play Banjo Kazooie in 60fps with analog feelsbadman)
Wow, this is the first time I've noticed DF act so salty. They really didn't like the fact Sony did their own teardown.
Maybe next time:))
The only reason Microsoft is giving out so much information is because it’s not like they have any games to talk about so they need to talk about something.
* cough * bethesda
Bruh wtf are you talking about? They have SO MANY games they need to come out and give us an update on, it's frustratingly aggravating how we have to wait months just to get a glimpse into the Xbox Studios' world of development. They are really good about keeping their AAA games a secret and that's what's creates hype from Xbox fans
@jesus barrera Stanfield, enough said
@jesus barrera hahha I feel your anger
Still not sure why digital foundry insist on referring to the PS5 GPU as operating under a "boost clock" as the Eurogamer article released after the PS5 spec reveal indicates that the GPU and CPU operate at optimal frequencies when supplied with full power and are throttled to match work load. While this difference may seem minuscule on the surface the design implications are actually quite telling. This power shifting model, as opposed to a constant power supply model used in conventional console manufacturing, means that the PS5 can be extremely power efficient while offering optimal performance based on workload, rather than the other way around. This allows the PS5 GPU and CPU to only work as hard as needed for a particular game or even at a micro level within a given scene. This "work smarter, not harder" approach has some very interesting ramifications in games because the higher clocks allow the PS5 GPU and CPU to punch well above thier weight class while at the same time managing power consumption. It will not be suprising to anyone who has compared faster clocked hardware to more compute heavy hardware that the end result will be that both approaches lead widely to the same performance metrics. It will be interesting to see how PS5 unorthodox power system stacks up to the conventional wisdom, but it will not be suprising if the expectations for power difference are nothing more than people arguing over which two roads will lead to the same destination.
Digital Foundry Proudly bought to you by Microsoft
Prediction - Wi-Fi 6 is for next gen Sony VR.
@Martin Schmidt Are you being obtuse or do you just not understand technical things?
There is a VAST amount of the PS5's features based heavily around VR and the experience as a whole. In fact, I wouldn't be stretching much to suggest, that the system as a whole was designed around VR from the very outset. (it also wouldn't be a stretch to guess that upon release, the PSVR2 might even beat out most/all of the current PC VR headsets in features and experiences - with PC catching back up reasonably quickly thereafter)
Wifi 6 is perfectly poised to work for wireless VR. The Oculus Quest 2 has this feature and can use it as a PC tether (instead of the cable) to quite good success. Having Bluetooth 5.1 should help immensely too, as, if I'm not mistaken, it can be used with quite high accuracy to track positions and motion. So, a mix of both in tandem will be very likely
@@MrVelociraptor75 This very much.
Sony is very bullish on VR. Cant wait to be blown away with an affordable PSVR2.
Itll probably feature Foveated Rendering and Finger tracking - but will it feature Varifocal Actuation?
My baseless guestimate says, we'll know Q4 2021 - Q1 2022
@@MrVelociraptor75 latency has always been a huge issue with vr so sony's super fast ssd would benefit psvr im sure
I just want to know about the next handheld they will release in the next few years. Just beef up the Vita.
@@REAL6 not going to happen, smartphones have taken over that market
That coolingsystem is so cool
No pun intended
@@johnwest6977 he clearly intend tho 🤔
As I saw it I got chills
Yeah if huge and cheap is cool
@@Rapunzel879 you mad the Xbox is cooking?
Undoubtedly DF are closer to MS and get a lot of perks and early access. So what's the cost for it? I'd really like to think we are getting unbiased opinions but the comments section seems absolutley full of people concerned about that....
@billythecatfish He didn't worship the PS5 and trash the Series X. Clearly DF favors Microsoft.
@billythecatfish No one has a PS5 but there are tons of videos praising the design. DF needs to be unbiased and also praise the system while warning everyone to never buy anything Xbox related.
It's a valid concern. They have been growing closer to Microsoft for a couple of years now. I can't really blame them, it definitely helps their channel. But it does make me wonder how it affects their objectivity towards Sony. Unfortunately nobody is immune to the 'VIP treatment'. When I heard they had been invited over to Microsoft office for a secret series X/S unveil months ago, I couldn't help but raise an eyebrow...
@@already_in_use_ and when you have them saying the PS5 teardown is 'uninteresting' compared to a last gen game analysis , Halo just has a 'lighting issue' and then this which almost turns into an xbox marketing video you have to ask the question. People are unsubbing and moving to other channels on youtube now. I personally love this channel, but their closeness with MS and some of the stuff they say does make you wonder....
@@already_in_use_ Do you hold an equally suspicious eye to the people invited to the hands-on event in Japan?
It's actually really exciting to see them using liquid metal. It'll be interesting to see if their innovations in making this a viable long-term thermal application potentially make its way over to the PC space where it's generally just used for quick extreme overclocking then removed shortly thereafter.
Some ASUS laptops use It iirc. But durability is a problem
Yeah the trouble with console user it's like apple users, that last gen Console is basically 2 years PC performance and devolepments, to a Pc user a faster SSD with an Ok GPU is not worthy of hype if the same price competitor offers a better GPU with an Ok SSD for the same price that how HP stole some share to Asus with gaming laptops...
So what's the issue with liquid metal is it just leakage? If so if it's correctly sealed shouldn't be an issue right ?
@@erickmarquez506 that's undoubtedly true, but mainly because games are designed to run on as many systems as possible, which means games are designed with HDDs in mind. Check LTTs video where the staff is supposed to know which system is the SSD pci gen 3, which the SSD pci gen 4, and which is the HDD.
@@TristanTheVRGamecat Leakage is just one problem. The others would be degradation of materials and the LM itself and the conductive nature. Most LM have a life span of 1 - 2 years, but if Sony designed their's just right it could last longer. With degradation, it could degrade parts of the heatsink (although the part that touched the LM seems to be silver, so that was minimized). As for conductive nature, the heatsink just cannot have any electricity run through it or the LM leak out, otherwise the system could end up dead.
A simpler design compared to series x??? Wtf? You guys mad cause you couldnt earn the 7 Mio Views for a PS5 teardown?
DF is like the go to company for next gen hardware testing
if they're on their payroll
@@joi0001 facts
@@joi0001 what u mean
@@joi0001 “they’re”
But he forgot to mention the PS5 amazing 22 GB/s SSD capability...
Came for a PS5 video, dude spends half the time talking about xbox 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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Sony is hiding the inferior specs meanwhile MS is giving all the detail.
But of course that's somehow MS fault😂👍
@@vandammage1747 Yakuza 7 1440p 20fps on Series L 🤣
@@vandammage1747 Series L has 0 Ray Tracing games at launch 🤣
@@vandammage1747 still the worse console so makes no difference. Go play dirt 5 or halo infinite. Apparently that's the best xbox has to offer.
Wifi6 could also be used for the future PSVR2 for wireless play, correct?
It's the primary reason for having it I would say.
Maybe if you compress the image. For that use having 802.11 ad would make more sense with theoratical higher transfer speeds thanks to its mmW frequencies, which one of the few useful application due the requirement of having line of sight for it to work.
Of course you have to compress the image. The throughput needed for a raw 120 fps signal at 1440p-4k would be insane.
Sounds like a useless version. Like he stated you'd have to have a not produced now router and modem to utilize the feature.
He said you need hardware that supports Wifi 6 to use Wifi 6. This hardware exists, just that it doesn't have widespread adoption yet.
Peripherals made for a device that uses Wifi 6 will obviously support Wifi 6.
The fan on the PS5 is the same kind of fan used on blower-style GPUs, so it's weird to see Richard saying he never saw anything like it on the PC space. On the PS5 teardown video it was even said they built their heatsink in a way that it would work like a vapor chamber, hence the reason why they went with a blower fan.
Finally, been looking forward to this :)
4:36 I changed to Kryonaut thermal paste on my nephews PS4, and holy shit what a difference it made! From jetengine to silent! Better than expected
Now, if the ps4 is silent, it worries me.
actually, you can silent ps4 only by cleaning it. especially in the heatsink area. do not need to change the paste
@@dzikraaksa527 Or just get the Spiderman ps4 pro which is pretty quiet actually. Not as quiet as Xbox one x but not bad all the same.
@@dzikraaksa527 you do need to change the paste sometimes. My ps4 was quite loud until I replaced the dried stock paste with fresh noctua paste. now it's as quiet or quieter than new.
@@DEVILTAZ35 my Spiderman PS4 Pro got the short end of the manufacturing machine. The fan was loose so I had to fix it. No big deal. The thermal paste was non existent... Annoying, but I had some on me. Prior to fixing it was loud af...
For all the Sony fanboys DF raises valid concerns about the expandle SSD heat that doesn't make them shills. For the Xbox fanboys just bc they raised these concerns doesn't mean Sony hasn't thought about this & it will fail. The console has been in development for 5 years & Sony knows what they are doing.
DF isn't shills. They are doing their jobs & without a unit from Sony they can only speculate until they get their hands on the console themselves to do testing. Jesus i hate fanboyism.
He mentioned ms more than Sony in a teardown of a Sony console. So much forced concerned - better known as concern trolling.
Sony has copped it bigtime over the last gen for noisey consoles - rightly so. Do you think they would have addressed that? I do. I also have confidence in there strategy to mitigate thermals within PS5 - including the expansion bay.
Rich is a classless shill - it shows more often than not. And Eurogamer are one of the publications the LOVE to perpetuate false rumours regarding PS5 over the last year or so.
Well, it's funny how he conjecture that the commercial SSD's that can be put to the PS5 will suffer from "overheating", but of the Xbox's SSD card doesn't say anything when it doesn't have any dissipation either.
@@26101976bdm he mentioned this bc that's all they have to compare it to. Without the actual unit from Sony they are basing it on the XSX designed & how it COULD compare. He even mentioned at the beginning that Sony's strategy of drip feeding info was the better option bc people are STARVING for that info & HYPED to get the PS5. I personally think it's bc we have seen actual next gen games captured & running on the PS5 unlike MS & they look incredible.
Look up the compilation of people who got to see Demon Souls gameplay trailer. They were blown away but Xbox fanboys jumped at the opportunity to shit on PS5 bc of DF saying it was running at 30fps. No one cared it was 30fps.
Visa versa when the XSX was reported to be really hot the PS5 fanboys jumped at the chance to shit on the XSX saying it was overheating. Which the journalist NEVER said that. They just said it was hot & blowing hot air. He used hyperbole saying it could "heat your flat" but that was just a joke.
Again i cannot stand fanboyism from either side. Sony nor MS give 2 squirts of piss about people defending a corporation that's meant to sell you a product.
@@djkoz78 if you don't see any bias when Dick is talking about PlayStation products - I can't help you, it's plain to see. Fake concern throughout, mentioned ms at every turn - and with an air of praise. Yet they haven't shown any games running on xsx.
Now - you mentioned the xsx getting hot and how Sony fanboys jumped all over it. In the case of PS5 - that would happen and then a publication would run with it and before you know you have untruth being siad as fact.
I am a fanboy - don't shy away from that fact either. Sony are guilty of bad messaging/mixed this time around - that cant be denied.
@@26101976bdm wait are you calling me a fanboy? Bc i have both the PS5 & XSX preordered. I don't care what your opinion of DF is. I disagree. Literally on the Richard's twitter you have XBOX fanboys calling him a Sony shill right now. You seem to be the fanboy bc its pissed you off this much.
I love the Toyota comparison! 🤣 Accurate comparison on so many levels. Ahaha
Thank you for the breakdown. Can't wait for y'all to really get your hands on, still lots of questions.
Not much breakdown going on it was mostly a comparison vid to how much he liked Xbox approach more
He failed to mention so many cool features You’d be better off watching the original video
@@rajhiemdanielspublic2290 yeah the xbox approach is better lol
@@kw6306 Yeah let's cram everything into a box and hope the fan can consistently keep everything cooler 😂.
You forgot to say also sponsored by xbox
So true..I paid $30 for my official Sony PS4 pro stand
I remember really wanting one of these for my ps2 back in the day, glad I never bothered
Blessed aliexpress
The One S is only 10 Dollar.Its just a piece of plastic?Why did it cost 30 for Ps4?Ok I guess
@FUCK YOU GOOGLE ASSHOLE The stand comes with the PS5.
@FUCK YOU GOOGLE ASSHOLE how could you lose it ?
Just to say, it's pleasing to see both MS and Sony put together very well engineered consoles with excellent build quality.
Couple that what looks like - at least at this moment in time - a really fantastic amount of performance for the £499 price point.
I still have concerns, primarily around software, which means I won't be buying at this stage. Covid makes the market tricky as well.
But it can't be denied. Both hardware manufacturers have done a tip-top job.
Yeah. It's obvious both had slightly different priorities regarding the capabilities as well as the physical design of the consoles, but both seem to have done a stellar job.
I do not see the well engineered regarding Sony's effort. From my point of view Sony got wind what Microsoft were up to, then began a massive overclock to close the gap, followed by variable clock speeds across the soc's GPU and CPU within a thermal budget. Even with that massive case and hamster wheel of a fan the variable clocks are not going away. I'd like to know when a game is heavily CPU bound what is the TF drop on the GPU side going to be?
Sony are usually 1st to shout and hype there new consoles, the silence here is deafening.
@@regfenster They won't just change specs last minute, e.g. the work on the cooling solution would have started around 3 or more years ago. Similarly, AFAIK, the variable clocks aren't just a flip of a switch, but require dedicated silicon (and at that point, why not just increase the CU count?).
Ehhh, Sony did good, but when compared to what xbox did it doesn’t look as good, not to say that they did bad or anything, just when compared, you know? But yah, I’d assume software from both ends will have been thought of highly, Software is always better than Hardware, its like having an expert shoot a trash gun vs a trash shooter shooting a good gun, the expert shooter will always gun him down, I’m excited for next gen to say the least
@@regfenster good point, yes. With my tin-foil hat on, it looks like Sony execs ordered a last-minute overclock, and we have this janky power splitting solution to fix the thermals.
Having said all that, I like what they've done from that basis. Liquid metal cooling, and dat heat sink.
The SSD is impressive, but part of me wonders whether Sony went a bit overboard here. Time will tell whether it makes an especially big difference.
You can see how mad DF is with Sony for not receiving any exclusivity
yep... itll effect them more this gen if they keep going this way
I think you are imaging things.
Mad? More like calling Sony out for lack of transparency.
@@Rapunzel879 Why didn't DF measure the temperature and noise of the XSS and XSX since they have the console as they did with the PS4 Pro? The DF is lacking transparency.
4:35 that isn't true you literally just take the top panel off and can see the cooler which you then used compressed air to clean....No screws and no voided warranty.
Not with the launch PS4
I really think the ps5 was ment to be 600$
@@mutalix yea think so then again MS blew 7billion for Bethesda lol
Definitely xbox series x engineering is ahead of the ps5. More powerful yet runs cooler and is more compact. That shows how effective and efficient the system/engineering is in the series X.
Let's see if this comment ages well in a year.
@@ivantruthkovic because he heard it on the shit show rdx podcast.
@@Jaguar32x come back in a year.
@@ivantruthkovic thats what was reported on multiple websites. Although, it is unconfirmed about the temperature. We have to wait another month to truly see.
@@Jaguar32x False. I don't even know what that is.
“Oh boy finally!”
“That’s what we’ve been waiting for!”
Isn't this a PS5 teardown video? Why are you talking about MS?
Because he can why you mad?
Cause MS paid them to always say positive things about the Xbox, isn’t that obvious? The Dirt 5 video is practically damage control in full force for the Series X, even though in a normal setting they would have ripped that game to shreds for its underwhelming performance.
So that kiddies like you can get upset about it
They have to in all of their videos, it's part of their contract with M$.
@@nico5179 no because you can't talk about the system without comparing it to it's biggest competitor to see how it stacks up that's common sense.
Sony is fearing the day you get a PlayStation 5 in your hands
No they're not
Another interesting tidbit that was passed over, it looks like the mainboard shielding has another smaller heatpipe and heatsink built in, assumingly for the VRM's, you can also see thermal compound on those components and possibly on the ram modules as well.
Seemed more upset about not being given VIP treatment like they did XBox. Might be why XBox was so prominently featured in a PS5 teardown. And the word "Journalist" doesn't command the respect it used to because the Journalist's Creed is unknown to most.
Salty
True, there did seem to be a bit of an entitled tone to his voice, but he was quite fair in the commentary.
DF: Sony, why can't we play with the PS5, Microsoft let us play with their box 😡😡😖
Sony: I don't even know who you are
Nice
By that logic Sony only knows Japanese TH-camrs.
Sony ponys are so butt hurt.🤣🤣🤣
What I find insane after Sonys video were people comparing about the stand. Like one screw was complicated & you need a tool kit. Those people need to grow up. They had better not ever but any flat pack furniture. Ikea will be out of the question for them.
I build boats so this is unfathomable to me that one screw was a half or complicated for someone. I mean they even built a cute compartment.
You bring up an excellent point.
In the past companies have charged $50 in my country for a stand. Also they click on with physic tabs so getting them off can be a real hassle & you run the risk of breaking plastic tabs off. Especially the older the plastic is.
It just didn't seem to matter what anyone does. It can be an improvement over last gen or save them money and they either forget or want something to complain about because that just what people have made into a sport nowadays or they have short memories.
I don't need the best hardware. What I want is a policy that demands all games be 60fps locked all the time.
That would mean going back to 900p or so or alternatively built in a much more expensive CPU/GPU combination.
Nice Xbox Series X teardown video there....oh wait
IKR
This video is proudly sponsored by Microsoft
Exactly. He couldn't stop talking about Xbox for one minute.
Imagine if they were competing and they had actual Series X hardware to compare with....
Two consoles launching at the same time? How strange to compare them against one another
16:13 Ah... i see ya there... I wink back to you good sir ;)
This is a bespoke DF video.
Jokes aside, interesting design but I still prefer the smaller size and practicality of the Series X.
True but ps5 is faster and has better games for me
The better games narrative will be slightly weaker in due time once Xbox studios starts releasing their new IPs IMO
@@ibrahimsalah2962 Not only did Microsoft not release any good games so far with their studios, they even cancelled a lot, Sony ALSO has studios and some new stuiods as well. So no, it most likely won´t be weaker..
@@kenshigo3833 I should have clarified that this only in due time. Games like Avowed, Initiative's game, and Zenimax new IPs could make a difference it will just take time.
@@ibrahimsalah2962 yeah, could...just like scalebound or fable could have...or sea of thieves, state of decay or crackdown could have...
I think I see what they were going for with the case design. The fan has a blade surface area that is at least double that of a standard 120mm. The tapering case will increase pressure, causing the air to move faster as it goes through the system as opposed to a perfectly rectangular design which would get no additional air speed. Almost similar to a cooling stack at a nuclear plant.
I'm surprised someone got that. I thought the same. Apparently, it is a "simpler" design from what DF says though. I think XBox bought DF off. They almost always criticize or disparage Sony Consoles vs XBox as they did it here.
..and to stop people from stacking shit on top of it at any angle so it won't turn into an oven.
One thing to remember is that increased air speed equals increased noise and there's no way around that. It will be interesting to see how the consoles compare in noise levels out of the box and in the future. I'm also curious about the vacuum ports and how two tiny ports are supposed to pull dust from such a distributed form factor for a heat sink.
@@brendanmenietti396 it definitely won't pull out all the dust, that's not possible. But it's still a nice addition, you can get out the other dust which isn't already holding directly on to the hardware.
@@1flash3571 Yeah I noticed that too. Richard calls the PS5 conservative but I fail to see what is so conservative about having the first ever liquid metal cooled mass produced electronic, having the biggest console with the craziest aesthetic, and having the fastest storage solution in the market across PC and console. Meanwhile he is amazed by XBX's build which is identical in design to pre-built PCs like the older Mac Pro or MSI Vortex but looks even more boring.
NX Gamer placed an interesting emphasis on the Bluetooth and WiFi antenna choices for a potential wireless PSVR 2. WiFi 6 for data transfer and this iteration of Bluetooth for positional tracking.
You won't get that here...
@@jinkazama7587 That what?
He's completely wrong on the Wi-Fi 6 speeds though. He mentions 9Gbps. Max for PS5 is 1.2Gbps.
I highly doubt they created the m2 expansion bay without thinking about cooling. The whole console is designed around cooling. They built the insides and put the outside around it instead of xbox that decided it was going to be a box and figured out how to put everything in the box.
The only thing I feel like they've fell short on is storage space. A secondary ssd will be almost essential. Other than that they've built an amazing console
So PS-5 is a PS-4 PRO with different case and fan.... think about it