Single greatest comment I've ever seen all season. Dominating consistent youngster in the fastest car on grid vs. an incredible talent wasting points after points and due to poor strategies and costly driver errors in a championship-winning level car. Spot on.
@@sinannoyan5302 Ferrari is the faster car. Sorry mate. And this comment doesn't make sense bcs vettel had the most dominant car by far in his redbull days. Vettel is big mistake prone too under pressure. He was never in the levels of hamilton alonso verstappen
@@herozero7484 Lol Alonso crashed in Fuji 2007 that if he finished the race & scored point he would've won the title that year, Hamilton bottled the title in China 2007, Baku & Abu Dhabi 2021& Verstappen was crash prone in 2017-2018. There's no need to have a go at Vettel mate even in his Red Bull years he fought tooth & nail in 2010 & 2012. Seb only dominate in 2011 & 2013 so its not an easy sailing for Seb at the time🤷♂️ Yes Seb at Ferrari 2018 was not the best version of him costly mistake dented his title credential i admit that, all WDC made mistake there's no denying that😁
@@SecondSince seems like all their plans are plan F. To the point where I think their championship win in 2007 was massively lucky because Hamilton and Alonso were taking points off each other most of the season
@@nahidrahman That was my first ever season lol. It was lucky but because it was Raikonnen it didn’t seem it. If Hamilton hadn’t joined Mclaren, Alonso would’ve won that WDC with races to go. Same goes for Hamilton if Alonso hadn’t joined. Seems to me that in 2008 Ferrari had the actual fastest car on the grid and still lost with silly mistakes (Singapore!)
We’re seeing how Mercedes were so dominant now in how much they are maximising results in the 3rd best car. They have left so little on the table, especially compared to Ferrari. That they could beat Ferrari still is mad
yeah, if russell didnt have that DNF in silverstone because of gasly's erratic driving and lewis lumped with terrible setup in saudi and imola, merc would be right up there with ferrari and lewis and russell both probably ahead of sainz.
Consistency and hard work beats talent, if you're at a high enough level of course, I'm sure the rest of the teams are working just as hard but they're not in that echelon
Totally agree, this is the truth, we know well Ferrari is soooo far from being competitive (mentally), and Charles although he is arguably the fastest guy on track, but he is so fragile. I think Charles problem is much less than his team because he could just tone down a bit his driving style and he'll be consistent at the cost of 0.2s per lap maybe, but his team's problem is just fundamentally so wrong, they need a new team leader and strategist, and a whole brand new pit crew.
@@chiyolate I agree but I think Charles still has the Ferrari problem. RBR and Mercedes galvanise around their drivers and they get it together as best they can come rain or shine, when something goes wrong you really know it but not for Ferrari, Ferrari you can be disappointed but not surprised. Ferrari has few problems leaving their drivers at sea for whatever reason, we saw this with Nando and Seb somewhat and the way things crumbled for them and then this year again, Silverstone for Charles recently and France for Carlos. You don't see this for RBR and Mercedes.
@@chiyolate i mean they where just changing rver year making it impossible to improve Horna is at rb for 15 year Wolf for 12 year at Merc they need some consistency
I think that Charles is not ready to do it all by himself, and that's why he seams fragile. He's fighting Max, Perez, RB, Sainz and Ferrari. Max has whole team working just for him and for WDC.. (same as Hamilton)
Verstappen and Red Bull are just such a strong pairing, both just thrive under the high pressure. The fight with Mercedes has strengthened them whereas Ferrari still haven’t learned from their fights with Mercedes. There’s just so much more confidence in Red Bull and Verstappen then Leclerc and Ferrari because it’s never a dull race for Ferrari and Leclerc still hasn’t stamped out these errors in the way Verstappen did going from 2020 to 2021. They’re similar ages but the experience advantage Verstappen has is just huge in terms of this battle
Ferrari is preparing to fight Mercedes for 2nd with a car that's capable of 1st. That's just the kinda team that Ferrari are since the Schumi, Brawn and co left. I'll get lampooned for saying this but we're watching this happen in real time. RBR could legitimately be slower than Ferrari by a couple of ⅒s and they'd still be a comfortable bet for the championships. Like something there in the team isn't gelling, and it's hurting the potential and ultimate capability of the team. Ferrari shouldn't be out of contention at this stage of the season.
In what realm do you live in? All Ferrari need to do is not screw up and they could win the championship they clearly have the fastest car on a Sunday.
@@weignerleigner3037 "All Ferrari needs to do is not screw up." What parallel universe did you come from? If we've learned one thing by now, it is that Ferrari will find a way to fuck up.
I think of Leclerc vs Verstappen as Hakkinen and Schumacher. One is ultra fast the person who can set a lap on fire but has a bit of a rough edge, the otehr one is still ultra fast but reliable. Leclerc has binned it on this race but I still feel that his level right now is pretty good, if he loses the title the blame would be on Ferrari and Leclerc but more towards Ferrari since their strategy calls and car reliablity is worse than a fresh dog turd.
What? Until now both had exactly 2 dnfs and there where just 2 races where strategie cost them British gp and Monaco both races where max had problems too. The rest was just better by max he didnt struggle at all in Imola or France he overtook leclerc in Miami and Saudi even tho the car was fast enough to keep up and lots of stupid errors like breaking the wing in the british gp if that doesnt happen he probably has a free pitstop with that pace....he is just not ready
To be honest, I feel like with Leclerc this year, part of the issue is the pressure based on Ferrari. I always think of Vettel, being like when he left RB, he thought going to Ferrari, they would work with him, and as number 1 driver he could dictate to make the car suit him. But was soon told, we are Ferrari, we do what we want, and you are just a driver, we don't like you we get rid of you. So just no support, added to immense pressure of being, the hope for Ferrari.
Verstappen is still converting more Leclerc poles into wins than Leclerc himself. Hopefully for Matt's chances at recovery, Leclerc will finish P2 in quali and win the race this Sunday.
The crazy thing that will change the season is Haas upgrades the car for Hungary and wins every race to the end and max & Charles fight for the scraps😅😅
even for a non-Leclerc fan, someone who wants SuperMax and Red Bull to win, hearing the Leclerc radio after the crash was quite sad. He's having to overdrive the car for all the points lost due to reliability in Baku, Spain, strategy blunders in Britain, Monaco. He could've been calm and perhaps accepted p2 if he had the points in hand from not DNF'ing from the lead twice. It's a repeat of Sebastian Vettel in 2018. --I just hope they don't give up on him and sacrifice his career for a season for a low constructors finish and more windtunnel time for the future.--
Come on, Kmag deserves a B. That first lap was something else. He had alreay pitted for hards before the safety car which dropped him and Mick to the back of the field, then he got fucked by Latifi. And Mick got yeeted by Zhou. There was so much bad luck for Haas.
The dislikes for Albon in this community is insane. The guy puts the car where it belongs (around P12) every weekend and still gets lower grades than C from 2/3 of votes… Even when he got points the grades were meh. The car literally has the worst race pace on grid. Edit: how is he not getting more Bs?
So you give Ricciardo the same grade as Lando, because he was only 8s off, but you give Seb a lower grade than Stroll, even though Seb was right behind him? Plus Seb had to fight back after losing positions during the safety car, which wasn't his fault
Binotto isn't good enough for team boss, he should be the technical director and they need a more assertive and capable person for boss. Binotto seems to be ok with the team when they clearly don't do enough to execute a good overall weekend. The car is arguably the best but they lack in the other departments
Seeing/hearing Rosberg come up with as many excuses as he did to justify Charles's mistake..made me wonder how critical he'd be if it was Carlos or better Lewis!
@@Noohee TBF, it wasn't a P2 on merit. All things equal, he would've been 4th if Perez was still as bad as he was or 5th if Perez pulled it together. That's something commentators never talk about, the circumstances in which Lewis or George get podiums however they're generally quick to say "Max with an easy win due to Leclerc crashing out".
@@MikeD-ej2ho ridiculous comment. If sainz was in the mix assuming all driver performances remain the same over the weekend, Lewis will still be p3, george p4 and perez p5. Perez was outperformed by both merc drivers while driving a car about 0.5~1 second faster per lap than merc based on verstappen's pace this year. Lewis beat him off the line and outpaced him till the end. George pipped him fair and square on the vsc. Everyone faced the same issue with the vsc. Mercerdes double podium was definitely on merit. Perez was poor this weekend.
@@N._Woods “all things equal” means Charles wouldn’t have crashed and Sainz wouldn’t have had a penalty. Max Charles Sainz would’ve occupied spots 1-3 in some order and Lewis would’ve been 4th at best but ya “ridiculous comment” 😅
@@MikeD-ej2ho Charles crashed on his own accord. Perez sucked during the entire weekend on his own accord. All things were equal aside from sainz's engine penalty which actually worked in charles' favour cuz he got the tow for qualy. Despite everything falling into place for him charles crashed. No outside factor. Despite his teammate challenging ahead, perez was beaten by the 2 mercs. No outside factor. Everyone was affected by the vsc issue. So level playing field all around
Leclerc is champion worthy, just less so than Verstappen. It’s like that thing where most driver’s on the grid could’ve won the title in the 2020 Mercedes, but next to none would if it’s Hamilton in the other car
I dunno how much you can stack on Binotto. This may be the sign of a more deep-rooted, systematic issue with Ferrari. I believe that replacing a team principle may not uproot all of these issues as everyone thinks they will, and will need a more internal, retrospective set of changes in the procedures and mentality of especially the race management side. The engineering seems to mostly be good, the car has good pace and can be made reliable, but the race side seems to flounder and be indecisive at key moments.
Its NOT about Red bull or Ferari, Its not about Max or Charles.Its about what onesie Grace is wearing!!!!Plz Tommy do not give Ferari a chance to comeback :)
Matt's intro to the podcast gets more and more dramatic each episode and I'm here for it. I wonder when he will hit his peak and then have to keep that up forever
Even as a Max fan, I feel for Matt. I cannot help but like both Charles and Carlos as competitors. It is gutting to see a race ruined for our favorite drivers! In other news, Russell is becoming a bit of a jackwagon.
It's funny isn't it. Max has a past where he was scrappy, made a few unforced errors, and was aggressive in his moves. And then blamed the other person. Now we see him seemingly without that rougher edge. Lewis had a past which also had those rougher edges too. Now we see Charles and George showing similar characteristics. Both need to grow to get to the next level, as both Lewis and Max have done.
I’ve been to Maranello yesterday and there’s a large sign in the museum that says: “Factories are made of people, machines and bricks, ferrari’s are made of mostly people.” I thought that summed up perfectly why do many things go wrong at ferrari. It’s beautiful, it’s faulty.
I've pointed out the VSC imbalance before. Depending on when it starts and finishes, the drivers can lose extreme amounts of time versus others. If a VSC ends at the beginning of midway through a straight for a driver, then the people behind that driver who returned to racing through a corner will have a huge speed difference at the end off the straight. one potential solution would be to mandate that a VSC must be enable in intervals of full laps so that it ends exactly where it started for everyone, but that is still not going to be consistent and equal for everyone because the same issue applies as outlined above. The true solution to VSC would be that rather than it being enabled globally for every car, it would be enforced locally based on track sectors. That way, if an incident happens in the third sector for instance, the VSC would be enabled in one of the mini sectors near the end of sector 2. If the incident takes a couple of minutes to clear up, then once every car passes that mini sector, they all enter VSC territory at the exact same point on the track, rather than randomly being slowed down globally. Once the incident is cleared, you would select a mini sector that disables VSC somewhere on the track ahead of the lead car and once every car passes that point on track, they get to resume accelerating. Every car slows down at the same point on track and accelerates at the same point. Pace wise, everyone is equal. There's no randomness, there's no guessing, you see exactly the point where VSC ends and you can time your delta accurately. I don't understand why they can't just do that instead.
@@lukerobson3043 I think starting all at once is fine and doesnt cause any unfairness if you will. the problem is more where it ends so that “zone” would work even if the start of the vsc is random! a good mix of op’s idea and what we currently have
it's not about speed, they are sticking to a delta time checo sped up before the vsc ended way too much and he had to brake hard to keep his delta positive. he also reacted late to the green flag while russell timed his restart perfectly
Don’t you guys think that LEC is cracking because he has to deal with more pressure than VER. Reliability not fixed compared to RB, team doesn’t have the edge compared to RB and MB, not having a prioritization level as VER and HAM, all of this is added to the already healthy pressure from hard rival competition VER. Same thing happened to VET, him spinning was result of him cracking under all that pressure. Tommy’s comparison on LEC and VET Ferraris carrier is spot on in my opinion.
@@vickjr98 it's half second slower in qualy, if that. When Mercedes was over half second faster than Red Bull and ferrari, nobody called later two tractors
I think the best way of summing it up is that aside from the exception of the Schumacher years, Ferrari has historically always been a highly chaotic team and squandered so many opportunities to win titles with some of the best drivers on the grid. They went 21 years without winning the driver's championship before Schumacher won in 2000, and even that was after a four year wait when people doubted whether he would. After that, Kimi only won one and was ditched after a couple of years, despite being signed as Michael's replacement, Alonso went there considered the best driver on the grid at the time and was expected to win championships, and he didn't (Ferrari strategic error arguable cost him '10 title in Abu Dhabi), Vettel started off strongly but left the team fairly acrimoniously in the end etc. I just hope that with Leclerc being so young, Ferrari doesn't waste his potential - but I wouldn't be surprised if he was already having doubts as to whether he'll ever win a championship whilst he's driving for Ferrari. Currently 14 years and waiting since Ferrari's last championship win.
This point that Leclerc is 1st time in championship fight doesn't fit in. Verstappen got his 1st championship car last season and look what he did. Good drivers learn from other's mistake rather than making themselves.
Its not really just about having a championshup capable car experience. Charles has had only racing winning car prior in 2019 only. Max has had race winning cars since 2017, he has had 5 years to accumulate that experience. Plus it helps that redbull is much better organized and that max has a servant for a teammate.
I agree fighting ahead benefits u by battling with best guys, but for an instance compare it to George Russel, never fought anyone in that shit Williams and still apart from Silverstone, he has been pretty faultless.
@@mukulsolanki6054 That Merc car isn't a championship winning car though? It's still far behind both the Ferrari and Red Bull as of right now, Mercedes are simply picking up the scraps.
Last session is his 7 years racing in F1 with NEWEY car! Dooohh. He driving NEWEY car since 2016 and they made car only for him so all 2nd driver struggles! Today is Leclerc 5 years in F1 and 2 years driving a competitive car ( 2019 and 2022). He drive problematic car in 2020-2021. Max Verstappen ever driving car with engine less 50 hp to Mercedes to win a race? No. He never drive a bad car! So in 2019 Vettel fight for title since he is 1st driver. This year is LECLERC 1st year to drive a right car for him to fight title. If Verstappen mistakes in his 5 years racing in F1 (2015-2019) you accept as part of learning. Why you think different with Leclerc in his 5 years racing in F1? You think whoever can perform great after 4 years study and 1 year working? In your 5 years working you do great things?
@@jarijaridewa Mistakes for 5 years are not template to be successful. Lewis won in 2nd year. Michael Schumacher won in 2nd year. Vettel won in 3rd year. Ferrari had a championship car in 2017-18 and half of 2019. Max was no. 2 driver in 2016-17. He became no1 after Daniel left.
It's a very good point on Ferrari not standing up for their drivers enough. The last time they really got behind their driver was the Schumacher era and look what happened then.
About F1 racing at Le Mans, Alonso said he thinks it would be fun and not too hard to adapt the cars to it, but he also said the circuit is probably “too fast and narrow” to be an exciting race for fans. Also it was Alonso who drove the Alpine show car around there but he obviously wasn’t pushing so he didn’t get a feel for what the pace would be like
Imagine how the Ferrari engineers at the factory must be feeling. They built a championship calibre car and then the drivers either throw it in the gravel or a wall and if they don't then the team will still find the worst possible strategy...
@@PatrickSchraner hurts my soul to say really want ferrari to fight this year !! i think they turned the wick up on the engines and now we're seeing the result :/
56:16 I would like Katy to know that I went looking for my cat because I thought she was stuck somewhere! I took me a good minute to realize it was your cat!
The circuit light panel was still flashing yellow when George overtook perez… how does that work. The graphics on screen said green light but the circuit panels still looked yellow to me
This is the first podcast i listen in English and this is really good. Just about the fact u guys just let each other talk out more instead of interupting what is really annoying about al the Dutch podcasts. And i just like u guys!
George is apparently being Fernando about the move, in the sense that he’s definitely taking the rules literally and challenge them to the furthest extent.
The team orders weren't a problem in the Schumacher - Barrichello days. Barrichello got those all the time. It's clear Ferrari's decision-making-process is unclear, even to themselves.
After Hungary, I do think the championship is over. 80 point lead for Max now. Verstappen could DNF 3 races that Leclerc wins, and still be P1. Red Bull can almost just coast to the end of the championship, settling with P2 + FL every race, and still win. Unless Red Bull/Max get seriously unlucky with reliability or on-track DNFs, they've basically secured both championships. I'm excited to see how these last 9 races work out, and I'd love a late charge from Ferrari, but I think it's too late.
The 6 Ferrari powered cars have taken a combined 21 components above allowed allocation already. With 10 races to go. RB are still on target to take their 3rd engine after the shutdown...
Also don't forget to mention that Schumacher at the end of 2006 said "i decided together with the team that i am going to retire at the end of this year". They fired him after 2 years of not winning the championship after he made ferrari great again with 5 consecutive championships.
@WTF1 - on the race direction, are you watching via SkySports or F1TV? F1TV has a lot of side-by-sides throughout the broadcast so you see overtakes while watching the battle for the lead at the same time (or a replay without losing the live race). Is the tv direction complaint really about Sky vs. F1?
I have 1 thing I mean if car is not quick it’s on teams not drivers! So if you are rating driver performance you need to keep car perspective in check! I love your channel amazing work! I hope you guys look at the advice or may be we can have additional team rating as well it would be nice to have!
The same grade of C for Pierre and Seb? Pierre was out in Q1 and went off track in the race thereby losing 3 positions. Seb was in Q2 only lost positions due to his pitstop which he regained in the race and finished P11 almost in the points on the final lap. Please.
If you think too, Max isn’t in any immediate danger of an engine penalty where as Leclerc is likely on track to require a change straight after summer break resulting in a penalty
I think ferrari's been surprised by their own car this year. in the big plan to return to the top, i think this year was supposed to be a fight for 2nd or 3rd but they turned up with a car ready to fight for the championship, but they just did NOT bring the mentality to fight for the championship. they're playing catchup i guess... XD I also think you're overestimating points lost, you said about 70 for max? what about 18 (1st DNF from 2nd) +18 (second DNF from 2nd postition) +19 Silverstone (he'd have won that easily without the damage 25-6) So that's about 55 points lost. Now if you want to be generous and include Monaco.. (since Red bull did get the W there, they could possibly put it in Max hands had they swapped the poit stops, so you could add 10 from that.) you'd end up 65 lost. (i don't want to include monaco.) Charles, 7 for monza? 25 for spain, 13 for monaco, baku 18 (i think 2nd was on the table, but not 1st), (canada can't calculate because penalties anyway..), GB 6 2nd place should have been his and Fra another 18. (dropped out from net 2nd position, don't think he's have made the overtake in the end..) for a conservative total of: 97 points dropped. XD Ok, so your 100 ball park estimate was quite accurate... XD :P
Katie's comment about there not being a formula to win a championship is wrong as there is one and always has been. It is called consistentcy. A driver who finishes every race in the top 3 is always going to win a championship over a driver who wins 50% of his races but crashes in the other 50%. To be World Champion you have to be consistent and be wise enough to know that if one race you can't win then 2nd or 3rd is still good points. Obviously you want to finish ahead of your championship rivals but if one or two races you don't it isn't championship ending. What kills your championship hopes are non scoring races. One thing what wasn't mentioned was that Red Bull still extended their lead on Merc as well as Ferrari as you get more points for 1st and 4th (25+12=37) than 2nd and 3rd (18+15=33) . So as I say being consistent again for Red Bull.
Lol.. it's funny usually if a driver crashes it's like " is the driver alright?". This week as soon as leclerc crashed into that wall my first thought " OMG OMG is Matt ok !! " 🤣🤣
Charles has all the speed he needs but i always feel like he’s on a knife edge, Max and Lewis are controlled but aggressive. Charles will learn though if he loses this year i think it will make him an even better driver
Think the difference is probably Charles pressure is reflected inwards and causes the issue. Lewis his pressure was reflected onto Max, so him losing control, just caused crashes with Max, which meant it didn't effect his title challenge as much as Charles's mistakes.
Ferrari's current team are out there looking like amatuers and their number 1 driver isn't good enough to beat Max. Though Carlos is starting to get comfortable. If some luck goes his way he could be really strong for the rest of the year and into next year. Max can do that pace all day everyday where Charles has to push so hard and drive on the absolute limit to try and do that pace. When your pushing your talent to the limit it runs out and you crash alot like he does. Max is winning by being consistently fast. Always there putting the pressure on Charles. He is winning the Championship deservedly so. And F1 hates it lmao they don't like to show or mention their current raining champion. Would rather still put all the air time on Lewis
Lol for the last part of your comment I thought I was the only one noticing that!! Not only speaking of british F1 but also italian (since I watch this). They keep emphasizing Lewis Crymilton, showing his best moments clips and idolizing him, even if he's doing shit...like they're PAID to say THAT. That makes me hate him even more seriously.
Matt, if it helps to keep you from entering a deep depression, remember the 2012 season. No one wants to see a repeat of what happened but Alonso lost the title through no fault of his own. Grosjean caused that big accident at Spa which took out Fernando and Kimi hit Alonso in Japan and took him out of the race on the opening lap. Two races like that for Max with LeClerc victories and suddenly, it’s a real championship again.
Honestly if Ferrari finishes 3rd this season, their reputation will be irreparably damaged forever if you ask me. Here they are, having the joint best car on the grid, they start strong with statement wins, then they shoot themselves in the foot so many times throughout the course of the season to a point that the team with a clearly big disadvantage who aren’t even competing for the title, overtakes them for 2nd place. I mean how do you recover from that?
Couldn’t believe that Leclerc crash, he withheld the pressure of Verstappen in his DRS for about what, like 15ish laps? Then made a mistake driving on his own up front, pretty shocking.
He was driving "qualifying laps" to counter the undercut attempt from Max. The indecision of Ferrari (and them not wanting to pit immediately after Max) already meant that he had nearly been overtaken (virtually). So while Verstappen wasn't in his mirrors, he still was under pressure from him! (of course he got the time delta - 27 seconds - via the radio)
It's over since they f'ed him up in Silverstone. They just aren't ready to be a championship contender yet, both Ferrari and Charles. If one get it right, the other mess it up. Happens way too often to take on RB & Max.
Leclerc is not even close mentally to cope with this preassure, compare him to Max last year, even after the biggest accidents he said he doesn't care, just needs to focus on the next race, and the next race, don't remember if he once said anything about losing the championship, always fully focused on just winning the next race
Never forget how people treated Carlos after a couple of mistakes in Spain and Australia but everyone has every excuse in the book ready for leclerc
Blue eyed boy
100% Sainz, is going to be on top from here on in.
@@abhishekab1 100 percent that's the case and people will deny it
@@patricksibiya7861 his 2 years at McLaren speak for them self imo.
@@patricksibiya7861 I mean, I disagree with that
This season is becoming a Vettel vs Vettel battle. Max representing his RB days and Charles representing his Ferrari days
Single greatest comment I've ever seen all season. Dominating consistent youngster in the fastest car on grid vs. an incredible talent wasting points after points and due to poor strategies and costly driver errors in a championship-winning level car. Spot on.
2022 is "A Christmas Carol" for Seb.
@@sinannoyan5302 Ferrari is the faster car. Sorry mate. And this comment doesn't make sense bcs vettel had the most dominant car by far in his redbull days. Vettel is big mistake prone too under pressure. He was never in the levels of hamilton alonso verstappen
Perfect comparison
@@herozero7484 Lol Alonso crashed in Fuji 2007 that if he finished the race & scored point he would've won the title that year, Hamilton bottled the title in China 2007, Baku & Abu Dhabi 2021& Verstappen was crash prone in 2017-2018.
There's no need to have a go at Vettel mate even in his Red Bull years he fought tooth & nail in 2010 & 2012. Seb only dominate in 2011 & 2013 so its not an easy sailing for Seb at the time🤷♂️ Yes Seb at Ferrari 2018 was not the best version of him costly mistake dented his title credential i admit that, all WDC made mistake there's no denying that😁
A Ferrari driver could say “The car is on fire” and their engineer would respond “copy, we’ll come back to you”
Plan F! Plan F!
@@SecondSince seems like all their plans are plan F. To the point where I think their championship win in 2007 was massively lucky because Hamilton and Alonso were taking points off each other most of the season
Funny you say that because they always sound so mechanical and nonchalant on the radio.
Seriously
@@nahidrahman That was my first ever season lol. It was lucky but because it was Raikonnen it didn’t seem it. If Hamilton hadn’t joined Mclaren, Alonso would’ve won that WDC with races to go. Same goes for Hamilton if Alonso hadn’t joined. Seems to me that in 2008 Ferrari had the actual fastest car on the grid and still lost with silly mistakes (Singapore!)
The Leclerc crash gives me major Vettel vibes from Hockenheim in 2018
I was saying the same thing, Vettel could not gain momentum anymore after that at Ferrari
You’re the 800,000th person to say that.
At least it was raining when Vettel went off the track
Time stamps would be a really good addition to the Podcast
Why tf did they remove it in first place?
@@anmoltripathi6126 considering these podcasts are longer than an hour. It would take almost 2 hourse to make those timestamps
We’re seeing how Mercedes were so dominant now in how much they are maximising results in the 3rd best car. They have left so little on the table, especially compared to Ferrari. That they could beat Ferrari still is mad
Yeah mercedes has a shit car this year but they're probably the best team in the roster.
yeah, if russell didnt have that DNF in silverstone because of gasly's erratic driving and lewis lumped with terrible setup in saudi and imola, merc would be right up there with ferrari and lewis and russell both probably ahead of sainz.
I think merc is by far the most put together team tbh. Most consistent and most organized
Consistency and hard work beats talent, if you're at a high enough level of course, I'm sure the rest of the teams are working just as hard but they're not in that echelon
@@peeturpain9379 russel closed the gap though, Gasly had his wheels in that gap
Ferrari and Leclerc are not ready for a championship battle, it's sad because I would love to see it go to the wire.
Totally agree, this is the truth, we know well Ferrari is soooo far from being competitive (mentally), and Charles although he is arguably the fastest guy on track, but he is so fragile. I think Charles problem is much less than his team because he could just tone down a bit his driving style and he'll be consistent at the cost of 0.2s per lap maybe, but his team's problem is just fundamentally so wrong, they need a new team leader and strategist, and a whole brand new pit crew.
They aren’t but that annoys me because they have the fastest. Car on the grid.
@@chiyolate I agree but I think Charles still has the Ferrari problem. RBR and Mercedes galvanise around their drivers and they get it together as best they can come rain or shine, when something goes wrong you really know it but not for Ferrari, Ferrari you can be disappointed but not surprised. Ferrari has few problems leaving their drivers at sea for whatever reason, we saw this with Nando and Seb somewhat and the way things crumbled for them and then this year again, Silverstone for Charles recently and France for Carlos. You don't see this for RBR and Mercedes.
@@chiyolate i mean they where just changing rver year making it impossible to improve Horna is at rb for 15 year Wolf for 12 year at Merc they need some consistency
I think that Charles is not ready to do it all by himself, and that's why he seams fragile. He's fighting Max, Perez, RB, Sainz and Ferrari. Max has whole team working just for him and for WDC.. (same as Hamilton)
Verstappen and Red Bull are just such a strong pairing, both just thrive under the high pressure. The fight with Mercedes has strengthened them whereas Ferrari still haven’t learned from their fights with Mercedes. There’s just so much more confidence in Red Bull and Verstappen then Leclerc and Ferrari because it’s never a dull race for Ferrari and Leclerc still hasn’t stamped out these errors in the way Verstappen did going from 2020 to 2021. They’re similar ages but the experience advantage Verstappen has is just huge in terms of this battle
Well said
Well, Verstappen didn't make these kind of mistakes which costs him the race (as in unforced errors) in 2020 or 2021.
Ferrari is preparing to fight Mercedes for 2nd with a car that's capable of 1st. That's just the kinda team that Ferrari are since the Schumi, Brawn and co left. I'll get lampooned for saying this but we're watching this happen in real time. RBR could legitimately be slower than Ferrari by a couple of ⅒s and they'd still be a comfortable bet for the championships. Like something there in the team isn't gelling, and it's hurting the potential and ultimate capability of the team. Ferrari shouldn't be out of contention at this stage of the season.
Redbull and Mercedes are the two best teams. Redbull probably could have won more if they made their own power units earlier
Ferrari still haven't learned from their fights with Ferrari
American here, I just love the British trash talk between Tommy and Matt. It’s very respectfully cutting
I agree with Matt on the Mercedes thing. They will take a step forwards with the new floor TD and may beat Ferrari to 2nd in the WCC.
Keep dreaming. 2022 mercedes is a mediocre 2021 ferrari.
In what realm do you live in? All Ferrari need to do is not screw up and they could win the championship they clearly have the fastest car on a Sunday.
@@weignerleigner3037 "All Ferrari needs to do is not screw up."
What parallel universe did you come from? If we've learned one thing by now, it is that Ferrari will find a way to fuck up.
@@PeterJavi they should change race highlights to “this week on how will Ferrari mess this up”
I'd put my money on Merc to beat Ferrari even without the new TD, they're just cllose enough and so much more reliable and consistent
2:44 props to Matt for being so honest even though it hurts
I think of Leclerc vs Verstappen as Hakkinen and Schumacher. One is ultra fast the person who can set a lap on fire but has a bit of a rough edge, the otehr one is still ultra fast but reliable. Leclerc has binned it on this race but I still feel that his level right now is pretty good, if he loses the title the blame would be on Ferrari and Leclerc but more towards Ferrari since their strategy calls and car reliablity is worse than a fresh dog turd.
Max‘ race pace is the best in the field right now
Lewis smokes all 4 of them. Proven
Max is the only driver that I can compare to Michael. They both can drive a race with his eyes closed
No separate blame, they are a team.
What? Until now both had exactly 2 dnfs and there where just 2 races where strategie cost them British gp and Monaco both races where max had problems too. The rest was just better by max he didnt struggle at all in Imola or France he overtook leclerc in Miami and Saudi even tho the car was fast enough to keep up and lots of stupid errors like breaking the wing in the british gp if that doesnt happen he probably has a free pitstop with that pace....he is just not ready
I won’t be surprised when Carlos finish ahead of Charles at the end of the season, Sainz looking stronger and stronger.
That would be the final nail in the coffin then
This aged well 🥲🥲
1:18:15 well done Matt you did it. After Hungary Verstappen is exactly 80 points clear of Leclerc 👏
To be honest, I feel like with Leclerc this year, part of the issue is the pressure based on Ferrari. I always think of Vettel, being like when he left RB, he thought going to Ferrari, they would work with him, and as number 1 driver he could dictate to make the car suit him. But was soon told, we are Ferrari, we do what we want, and you are just a driver, we don't like you we get rid of you.
So just no support, added to immense pressure of being, the hope for Ferrari.
Verstappen is still converting more Leclerc poles into wins than Leclerc himself. Hopefully for Matt's chances at recovery, Leclerc will finish P2 in quali and win the race this Sunday.
I realized that Carlos' best 2 finishes he has completely disregarded the team rules. thats crazy
Huge Max fan here but I have so much respect for Charles. Worthy competitor and I'm never angry when we lose to him. Class act.
Leclerc is starting to remind me of Gilles Villeneuve. Moments of Brilliance, of incredible speed... But a very high ratio of DNFs, unfortunately.
The crazy thing that will change the season is Haas upgrades the car for Hungary and wins every race to the end and max & Charles fight for the scraps😅😅
11:50. i saw a meme that said. "breaking, ferrari strategists mad that Leclerc ruined his race before they could!" it looked real and was hilarious
even for a non-Leclerc fan, someone who wants SuperMax and Red Bull to win, hearing the Leclerc radio after the crash was quite sad. He's having to overdrive the car for all the points lost due to reliability in Baku, Spain, strategy blunders in Britain, Monaco. He could've been calm and perhaps accepted p2 if he had the points in hand from not DNF'ing from the lead twice. It's a repeat of Sebastian Vettel in 2018. --I just hope they don't give up on him and sacrifice his career for a season for a low constructors finish and more windtunnel time for the future.--
Come on, Kmag deserves a B. That first lap was something else. He had alreay pitted for hards before the safety car which dropped him and Mick to the back of the field, then he got fucked by Latifi. And Mick got yeeted by Zhou. There was so much bad luck for Haas.
Agreed, both Haas drivers with horrible luck, despite great pace in general.
The dislikes for Albon in this community is insane. The guy puts the car where it belongs (around P12) every weekend and still gets lower grades than C from 2/3 of votes…
Even when he got points the grades were meh. The car literally has the worst race pace on grid.
Edit: how is he not getting more Bs?
facts
He's not white
relax fanboy
I think whatever cred or respect folks had for Albon kinda went out the door 🚪 after his “they race me so hard” comment
@@tambulee ya, shallow people aren't very loyal
So you give Ricciardo the same grade as Lando, because he was only 8s off, but you give Seb a lower grade than Stroll, even though Seb was right behind him? Plus Seb had to fight back after losing positions during the safety car, which wasn't his fault
Logic isn‘t really a strong point of this channel
Is it possible to add chapters to the podcast? I'm always very interested in what you guys have to say but I'm quite bad with long form content.
adapt or die.... ;-)
At this point i really believe that Sainz will end up in front of Charles
I miss last yr already this thing is over... hopefully Merc can get the car further developed to make it entertaining
Binotto isn't good enough for team boss, he should be the technical director and they need a more assertive and capable person for boss. Binotto seems to be ok with the team when they clearly don't do enough to execute a good overall weekend. The car is arguably the best but they lack in the other departments
Seeing/hearing Rosberg come up with as many excuses as he did to justify Charles's mistake..made me wonder how critical he'd be if it was Carlos or better Lewis!
And he had nothing to say about Lewis being P2, not like early in the season when Lewis couldn't overtake at the DRS train.
@@Noohee TBF, it wasn't a P2 on merit. All things equal, he would've been 4th if Perez was still as bad as he was or 5th if Perez pulled it together. That's something commentators never talk about, the circumstances in which Lewis or George get podiums however they're generally quick to say "Max with an easy win due to Leclerc crashing out".
@@MikeD-ej2ho ridiculous comment. If sainz was in the mix assuming all driver performances remain the same over the weekend, Lewis will still be p3, george p4 and perez p5. Perez was outperformed by both merc drivers while driving a car about 0.5~1 second faster per lap than merc based on verstappen's pace this year. Lewis beat him off the line and outpaced him till the end. George pipped him fair and square on the vsc. Everyone faced the same issue with the vsc. Mercerdes double podium was definitely on merit. Perez was poor this weekend.
@@N._Woods “all things equal” means Charles wouldn’t have crashed and Sainz wouldn’t have had a penalty. Max Charles Sainz would’ve occupied spots 1-3 in some order and Lewis would’ve been 4th at best but ya “ridiculous comment” 😅
@@MikeD-ej2ho Charles crashed on his own accord. Perez sucked during the entire weekend on his own accord. All things were equal aside from sainz's engine penalty which actually worked in charles' favour cuz he got the tow for qualy. Despite everything falling into place for him charles crashed. No outside factor. Despite his teammate challenging ahead, perez was beaten by the 2 mercs. No outside factor. Everyone was affected by the vsc issue. So level playing field all around
This race really reminds me of Germany 2018 when Vettel crashed and he never recovered from that
After doing a bit of math I think only Carlos can help Leclerc win the title by making sure Max does not finish higher than third.
I think people are being too harsh on Haas this weekend. The first SC really screwed up their strategy.
Leclerc is champion worthy, just less so than Verstappen. It’s like that thing where most driver’s on the grid could’ve won the title in the 2020 Mercedes, but next to none would if it’s Hamilton in the other car
I agree with this
This exactly. I'm a max fan but Lewis in 2020 would have wiped the floor with literally any driver
Wouldn’t surprise me to see binnoto gone at the end of the year. They need a leader like wolf or horner involved
They should have kept Arrivabene
I dunno how much you can stack on Binotto. This may be the sign of a more deep-rooted, systematic issue with Ferrari. I believe that replacing a team principle may not uproot all of these issues as everyone thinks they will, and will need a more internal, retrospective set of changes in the procedures and mentality of especially the race management side. The engineering seems to mostly be good, the car has good pace and can be made reliable, but the race side seems to flounder and be indecisive at key moments.
Possible only if ferrari finish 3rd or start doing blunders every race.
@@KPO96 that was their poisoned chalice
I think it's deeper aswell, but yeah.. Can only speculate.
We need Merc back to the top, they are the only ones that could take it to Max (or Alpine giving Alonso a better car)
The last few races I’ve been lying to myself saying there was still a championship fight. We finally got closure this weekend
I swear to god I had to watch that Virgin advert more times than Matt mentioned Leclerc during this..... Still love the pod, thank guys :)
Its NOT about Red bull or Ferari, Its not about Max or Charles.Its about what onesie Grace is wearing!!!!Plz Tommy do not give Ferari a chance to comeback :)
Matt's intro to the podcast gets more and more dramatic each episode and I'm here for it. I wonder when he will hit his peak and then have to keep that up forever
Super Max is the best! Great TH-cam podcasts 👌👌
Don't feel too bad Matt. You could be a Danny Ricc fan like me.
Ouch
It's calm waters being a fan of a driver not at the front 😅
Oeioeioei
@@Amory98 it's a mixed bag. You don't get the highs of seeing them win races. But you also don't get the lows of having them bottle a win
Even as a Max fan, I feel for Matt. I cannot help but like both Charles and Carlos as competitors. It is gutting to see a race ruined for our favorite drivers! In other news, Russell is becoming a bit of a jackwagon.
It's funny isn't it. Max has a past where he was scrappy, made a few unforced errors, and was aggressive in his moves. And then blamed the other person. Now we see him seemingly without that rougher edge. Lewis had a past which also had those rougher edges too. Now we see Charles and George showing similar characteristics. Both need to grow to get to the next level, as both Lewis and Max have done.
I’ve been to Maranello yesterday and there’s a large sign in the museum that says: “Factories are made of people, machines and bricks, ferrari’s are made of mostly people.” I thought that summed up perfectly why do many things go wrong at ferrari. It’s beautiful, it’s faulty.
I've pointed out the VSC imbalance before. Depending on when it starts and finishes, the drivers can lose extreme amounts of time versus others. If a VSC ends at the beginning of midway through a straight for a driver, then the people behind that driver who returned to racing through a corner will have a huge speed difference at the end off the straight.
one potential solution would be to mandate that a VSC must be enable in intervals of full laps so that it ends exactly where it started for everyone, but that is still not going to be consistent and equal for everyone because the same issue applies as outlined above.
The true solution to VSC would be that rather than it being enabled globally for every car, it would be enforced locally based on track sectors. That way, if an incident happens in the third sector for instance, the VSC would be enabled in one of the mini sectors near the end of sector 2. If the incident takes a couple of minutes to clear up, then once every car passes that mini sector, they all enter VSC territory at the exact same point on the track, rather than randomly being slowed down globally. Once the incident is cleared, you would select a mini sector that disables VSC somewhere on the track ahead of the lead car and once every car passes that point on track, they get to resume accelerating. Every car slows down at the same point on track and accelerates at the same point. Pace wise, everyone is equal. There's no randomness, there's no guessing, you see exactly the point where VSC ends and you can time your delta accurately. I don't understand why they can't just do that instead.
Like the idea of zoned vsc for the start and end of it. Tho the idea of it starting all at once is to stop a second incident.
@@lukerobson3043 I think starting all at once is fine and doesnt cause any unfairness if you will. the problem is more where it ends so that “zone” would work even if the start of the vsc is random! a good mix of op’s idea and what we currently have
Also with russel the vsc is reduced speed? So when he is 35kph faster before the vsc ends isn’t that the problem?
it's not about speed, they are sticking to a delta time
checo sped up before the vsc ended way too much and he had to brake hard to keep his delta positive. he also reacted late to the green flag while russell timed his restart perfectly
Really enjoying Matt and Tom’s commentary!
Don’t you guys think that LEC is cracking because he has to deal with more pressure than VER. Reliability not fixed compared to RB, team doesn’t have the edge compared to RB and MB, not having a prioritization level as VER and HAM, all of this is added to the already healthy pressure from hard rival competition VER. Same thing happened to VET, him spinning was result of him cracking under all that pressure. Tommy’s comparison on LEC and VET Ferraris carrier is spot on in my opinion.
36:00 I was wondering why the VSC Ending message was displayed for such a long time! Thank you Katy
Checo deserves a D at the most. Getting beaten by both Merc drivers in that absolute dog of a car is embarrassing.
It's not "dog of a car", ffs. It's clearly 3rd fastest out of 10 and the most reliable one, for a good measure
@@PlayTrickBLOGSPOT it's a tractor compared to the RBR car though
@@vickjr98 it's half second slower in qualy, if that. When Mercedes was over half second faster than Red Bull and ferrari, nobody called later two tractors
Leclerc and Hamilton have the same number of podiums now this season.
It was also funny how Russel said great restart lucky boy.
Would love a that time when Ricciardo won the Hungarian Grand Prix!
I think the best way of summing it up is that aside from the exception of the Schumacher years, Ferrari has historically always been a highly chaotic team and squandered so many opportunities to win titles with some of the best drivers on the grid. They went 21 years without winning the driver's championship before Schumacher won in 2000, and even that was after a four year wait when people doubted whether he would.
After that, Kimi only won one and was ditched after a couple of years, despite being signed as Michael's replacement, Alonso went there considered the best driver on the grid at the time and was expected to win championships, and he didn't (Ferrari strategic error arguable cost him '10 title in Abu Dhabi), Vettel started off strongly but left the team fairly acrimoniously in the end etc.
I just hope that with Leclerc being so young, Ferrari doesn't waste his potential - but I wouldn't be surprised if he was already having doubts as to whether he'll ever win a championship whilst he's driving for Ferrari. Currently 14 years and waiting since Ferrari's last championship win.
This point that Leclerc is 1st time in championship fight doesn't fit in. Verstappen got his 1st championship car last season and look what he did.
Good drivers learn from other's mistake rather than making themselves.
Its not really just about having a championshup capable car experience. Charles has had only racing winning car prior in 2019 only. Max has had race winning cars since 2017, he has had 5 years to accumulate that experience. Plus it helps that redbull is much better organized and that max has a servant for a teammate.
I agree fighting ahead benefits u by battling with best guys, but for an instance compare it to George Russel, never fought anyone in that shit Williams and still apart from Silverstone, he has been pretty faultless.
@@mukulsolanki6054 That Merc car isn't a championship winning car though? It's still far behind both the Ferrari and Red Bull as of right now, Mercedes are simply picking up the scraps.
Last session is his 7 years racing in F1 with NEWEY car! Dooohh. He driving NEWEY car since 2016 and they made car only for him so all 2nd driver struggles! Today is Leclerc 5 years in F1 and 2 years driving a competitive car ( 2019 and 2022). He drive problematic car in 2020-2021. Max Verstappen ever driving car with engine less 50 hp to Mercedes to win a race? No. He never drive a bad car! So in 2019 Vettel fight for title since he is 1st driver. This year is LECLERC 1st year to drive a right car for him to fight title. If Verstappen mistakes in his 5 years racing in F1 (2015-2019) you accept as part of learning. Why you think different with Leclerc in his 5 years racing in F1? You think whoever can perform great after 4 years study and 1 year working? In your 5 years working you do great things?
@@jarijaridewa Mistakes for 5 years are not template to be successful. Lewis won in 2nd year. Michael Schumacher won in 2nd year. Vettel won in 3rd year.
Ferrari had a championship car in 2017-18 and half of 2019. Max was no. 2 driver in 2016-17. He became no1 after Daniel left.
It's a very good point on Ferrari not standing up for their drivers enough.
The last time they really got behind their driver was the Schumacher era and look what happened then.
About F1 racing at Le Mans, Alonso said he thinks it would be fun and not too hard to adapt the cars to it, but he also said the circuit is probably “too fast and narrow” to be an exciting race for fans.
Also it was Alonso who drove the Alpine show car around there but he obviously wasn’t pushing so he didn’t get a feel for what the pace would be like
Imagine how the Ferrari engineers at the factory must be feeling. They built a championship calibre car and then the drivers either throw it in the gravel or a wall and if they don't then the team will still find the worst possible strategy...
But the reliability tho ... you need the cars to finish the race !!
@@Livin_LLGAMING94 True, I forgot about that. My bad.
@@PatrickSchraner hurts my soul to say really want ferrari to fight this year !! i think they turned the wick up on the engines and now we're seeing the result :/
56:16 I would like Katy to know that I went looking for my cat because I thought she was stuck somewhere! I took me a good minute to realize it was your cat!
Tom! make sure the onesie is worn every single race day!
The circuit light panel was still flashing yellow when George overtook perez… how does that work. The graphics on screen said green light but the circuit panels still looked yellow to me
imagine Charles crashes again in Hungary i will be waiting for Matt's reaction
He'd be talking from under the table
he dead if that happens
Matt's pain is a 4th podcast member at this point
This is the first podcast i listen in English and this is really good. Just about the fact u guys just let each other talk out more instead of interupting what is really annoying about al the Dutch podcasts. And i just like u guys!
Ferrari acts like a midfield team which got handed a championship winning car
George is apparently being Fernando about the move, in the sense that he’s definitely taking the rules literally and challenge them to the furthest extent.
The team orders weren't a problem in the Schumacher - Barrichello days. Barrichello got those all the time. It's clear Ferrari's decision-making-process is unclear, even to themselves.
After Hungary, I do think the championship is over.
80 point lead for Max now.
Verstappen could DNF 3 races that Leclerc wins, and still be P1.
Red Bull can almost just coast to the end of the championship, settling with P2 + FL every race, and still win.
Unless Red Bull/Max get seriously unlucky with reliability or on-track DNFs, they've basically secured both championships.
I'm excited to see how these last 9 races work out, and I'd love a late charge from Ferrari, but I think it's too late.
The 6 Ferrari powered cars have taken a combined 21 components above allowed allocation already. With 10 races to go. RB are still on target to take their 3rd engine after the shutdown...
Good point about Ferrari's attitude towards their drivers! Them firing Alain Prost is a great example indeed.
Also don't forget to mention that Schumacher at the end of 2006 said "i decided together with the team that i am going to retire at the end of this year". They fired him after 2 years of not winning the championship after he made ferrari great again with 5 consecutive championships.
Suggestion: after the WTF1 rating, show the (current/virtual) standings.
@WTF1 - on the race direction, are you watching via SkySports or F1TV? F1TV has a lot of side-by-sides throughout the broadcast so you see overtakes while watching the battle for the lead at the same time (or a replay without losing the live race). Is the tv direction complaint really about Sky vs. F1?
I have 1 thing I mean if car is not quick it’s on teams not drivers! So if you are rating driver performance you need to keep car perspective in check! I love your channel amazing work! I hope you guys look at the advice or may be we can have additional team rating as well it would be nice to have!
Am I the only one who always look forward to Mary’s legendary intros?
My Tuesday is not complete without it!
She's a bit cheesy but I like it haha Things can be way too serious in F1.
The same grade of C for Pierre and Seb? Pierre was out in Q1 and went off track in the race thereby losing 3 positions. Seb was in Q2 only lost positions due to his pitstop which he regained in the race and finished P11 almost in the points on the final lap. Please.
If you think too, Max isn’t in any immediate danger of an engine penalty where as Leclerc is likely on track to require a change straight after summer break resulting in a penalty
I think ferrari's been surprised by their own car this year. in the big plan to return to the top, i think this year was supposed to be a fight for 2nd or 3rd but they turned up with a car ready to fight for the championship, but they just did NOT bring the mentality to fight for the championship.
they're playing catchup i guess... XD
I also think you're overestimating points lost, you said about 70 for max? what about 18 (1st DNF from 2nd) +18 (second DNF from 2nd postition) +19 Silverstone (he'd have won that easily without the damage 25-6) So that's about 55 points lost.
Now if you want to be generous and include Monaco.. (since Red bull did get the W there, they could possibly put it in Max hands had they swapped the poit stops, so you could add 10 from that.) you'd end up 65 lost. (i don't want to include monaco.)
Charles, 7 for monza? 25 for spain, 13 for monaco, baku 18 (i think 2nd was on the table, but not 1st), (canada can't calculate because penalties anyway..), GB 6 2nd place should have been his and Fra another 18. (dropped out from net 2nd position, don't think he's have made the overtake in the end..) for a conservative total of: 97 points dropped. XD
Ok, so your 100 ball park estimate was quite accurate... XD :P
I have already heard this podcast online and fuck I am going to watch it again now!
Adding markers would be nice
Katie's comment about there not being a formula to win a championship is wrong as there is one and always has been. It is called consistentcy. A driver who finishes every race in the top 3 is always going to win a championship over a driver who wins 50% of his races but crashes in the other 50%. To be World Champion you have to be consistent and be wise enough to know that if one race you can't win then 2nd or 3rd is still good points. Obviously you want to finish ahead of your championship rivals but if one or two races you don't it isn't championship ending. What kills your championship hopes are non scoring races. One thing what wasn't mentioned was that Red Bull still extended their lead on Merc as well as Ferrari as you get more points for 1st and 4th (25+12=37) than 2nd and 3rd (18+15=33) . So as I say being consistent again for Red Bull.
Ahhh Katy, you have some amazing lines! love your input!
Lol.. it's funny usually if a driver crashes it's like " is the driver alright?". This week as soon as leclerc crashed into that wall my first thought " OMG OMG is Matt ok !! " 🤣🤣
Race review on a Tuesday! Very epic
“He’s so hard on himself” LITERALLY EVERY DRIVER
Hm idk about that. I've seen many drivers deflect or just say "things happen". Charles seems to be a little harder than really is necessary.
Ferrari have forgotten how to win. Leclerc in a Red Bull or Mercedes would be managed, and developed into a world champion in the right environment.
Congrats to Max on his 2nd championship
Lol
😤NONONO chris this is so not right
Jinxing is all we have left at this point
Charles has all the speed he needs but i always feel like he’s on a knife edge, Max and Lewis are controlled but aggressive. Charles will learn though if he loses this year i think it will make him an even better driver
Lewis made the same mistakes as Lec last year....
Think the difference is probably Charles pressure is reflected inwards and causes the issue.
Lewis his pressure was reflected onto Max, so him losing control, just caused crashes with Max, which meant it didn't effect his title challenge as much as Charles's mistakes.
@@10parth10 That's not true 😂 I don't remember Lewis crashing into any barrier
@@vickjr98 imola plus brake magic. Yes lewis got out of the barrier but still same lvl of mistakes
Poor matty i felt that leclerc pain
Great podcast guys.
Katy is getting more and more gorgeous every time :D
Matt: I’m going for a Verstappen DNF.
Racing Gods: Nah
Great vid
This season is about Alonso holding 14 cars behind him.
Ferrari's current team are out there looking like amatuers and their number 1 driver isn't good enough to beat Max. Though Carlos is starting to get comfortable. If some luck goes his way he could be really strong for the rest of the year and into next year. Max can do that pace all day everyday where Charles has to push so hard and drive on the absolute limit to try and do that pace. When your pushing your talent to the limit it runs out and you crash alot like he does. Max is winning by being consistently fast. Always there putting the pressure on Charles. He is winning the Championship deservedly so. And F1 hates it lmao they don't like to show or mention their current raining champion. Would rather still put all the air time on Lewis
Lol for the last part of your comment I thought I was the only one noticing that!! Not only speaking of british F1 but also italian (since I watch this). They keep emphasizing Lewis Crymilton, showing his best moments clips and idolizing him, even if he's doing shit...like they're PAID to say THAT. That makes me hate him even more seriously.
Matt, if it helps to keep you from entering a deep depression, remember the 2012 season. No one wants to see a repeat of what happened but Alonso lost the title through no fault of his own. Grosjean caused that big accident at Spa which took out Fernando and Kimi hit Alonso in Japan and took him out of the race on the opening lap. Two races like that for Max with LeClerc victories and suddenly, it’s a real championship again.
Honestly if Ferrari finishes 3rd this season, their reputation will be irreparably damaged forever if you ask me. Here they are, having the joint best car on the grid, they start strong with statement wins, then they shoot themselves in the foot so many times throughout the course of the season to a point that the team with a clearly big disadvantage who aren’t even competing for the title, overtakes them for 2nd place. I mean how do you recover from that?
Couldn’t believe that Leclerc crash, he withheld the pressure of Verstappen in his DRS for about what, like 15ish laps? Then made a mistake driving on his own up front, pretty shocking.
He was driving "qualifying laps" to counter the undercut attempt from Max.
The indecision of Ferrari (and them not wanting to pit immediately after Max) already meant that he had nearly been overtaken (virtually).
So while Verstappen wasn't in his mirrors, he still was under pressure from him! (of course he got the time delta - 27 seconds - via the radio)
It's sad because after the first few races, we thought we had another 2021 and 2007 with the championship being determined on the last race
It's over since they f'ed him up in Silverstone. They just aren't ready to be a championship contender yet, both Ferrari and Charles. If one get it right, the other mess it up. Happens way too often to take on RB & Max.
Leclerc is not even close mentally to cope with this preassure, compare him to Max last year, even after the biggest accidents he said he doesn't care, just needs to focus on the next race, and the next race, don't remember if he once said anything about losing the championship, always fully focused on just winning the next race
hearing just 15mins of this podcast i'm totally groaning in pain as a Charles Fan. No More Miracles can save ferrari for the championship fight