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- DID THAT REALLY HAPPEN? Matt and Tommy are back for another podcast discussing the crazy Italian Grand Prix and wondering what a race victory might mean for Pierre Gasly's future....
1:31 - A crazy race
16:09 - What next for Gasly?
26:51 - Is Stroll underrated?
30:37 - Would Sainz have won?
34:20 - Merc/Red Bull fails
39:19 - ABCDEF1
1:03:45 - Predictions
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1:31 - A crazy race
16:09 - What next for Gasly?
26:51 - Stroll underrated
30:37 - Would Sainz have won?
34:20 - No Mercedes or Red Bull on the podium
39:19 - ABCDEF1
1:03:45 - Predictions
I like trucks too
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Stroll underrated? C'mon, guys. The fact that he's 4th, to me, isn't indicative of him performing better than we thought-it's deceiving. He's in what's likely the second best car. He was out qualified by Hulkenburg. And it seems every week stroll is falling short of expectations/straight up disappointing drives.
Tnx for putting timestamps back!!
@@colbywoolsey3113 2nd best car? Red Bull has a better car and you could also make a case for Mclaren. Also, if you consider Stroll disappointing, how do you feel about Perez? Stroll is currently P4 in the drivers standings. Did you expect him him to be better then Verstappen or the Mercs?
Somebody in Finland predicted the finishing order and he won a 0,20€ bet and got 33000€ back because of the multiplier which was 166 000x :D
Imagine betting a thousand 😮
source?
@@benztan7378 would you bet 1000 that Gasly would win the Italian GP? He put .20 down.
I think you can do these kind of bets each race until you win in a crazy race like this one. If this is true I think the guy has done a lot of crazy orders and bet 0,20 on each one
Did he predict the whole finishing order? Or just the podium?
Germany 2019, Alpha Tauri on the podium
Brazil 2019, Alpha Tauri on the podium
Monza 2020, Alpha Tauri on the podium
The most exciting races in the last few years(arguably) have something in common
What a race.
Brazil 2019: Hamilton gets penalty, McLaren on podium
Austria 2020: Hamilton gets penalty, McLaren on podium
Italy 2020: Hamilton gets penalty, McLaren on podium
He also got a penalty in Germany, so maybe it's just that whenever he gets a penalty we see an amazing race.
@@kan1an168 Conclusion: give him a paycheck for early retirement.
They are a team that always benefits from good races,always there even not the best of rest team,but its like they just go nuts then
Renault punching the air rn
In the words of toto wolff- “one loss for Mercedes, but a huge win for formula 1”
It was something. Any one of the top 4 won I would have screamed equal amount.
Agreed
Gasly was in the weakest car from them
Toto is a down to earth man at the end of the day
Varun Sambi agreed. I forgot who finished 5th too tho 😂
It was really nice to hear what To had to say.
My 3 word race review: Prove them wrong (Hubert's message to Gasly after he got demoted from Red Bull)
🤜
Woutah2dmaX underrated comment.
Woutah2dmaX what a season for Pierre
@@architmyadam8760 couple of seasons the lows of last year and the highs of this one
Wow that was probably few hours before he died
But gasly did just that. What a day for him
This was such a legendary GP that I'll forgive Tom for rocking 2 mics.
Matt does two but you can’t see it as much 😂 Mic to speak to each other but a podcast mic so the audio is much nicer for the video 😎
I only noticed when I read this comment
What makes Gasly's win all the more emotional, was that Anthoine Hubert told him to "Prove Them Wrong" when Gasly got unceremoniously demoted from Red Bull. Now a year on from Anthoine's death, Gasly's done exactly that.
It really hit hard to watch him sit there on the podium alone for a moment, just to take everything in. Anthoine must be proudly watching, somewhere above.
Tough day at college and I come back to this YESSSSSS
The podium was something taken straight out of an F1 game career mode race
Pierre's switch from RB to Alpha Tauri has been a blessing in disguise for him
I’m convinced that if you put Gasly (or anyone else) in that RB and they will struggle. That team has issues down to its core that prevents their second driver to be quick. Max and Daniel were on equal footing, hence the competitiveness. Now Max is the clear No.1, they’ve doomed their constructors title chances.
@Parallax No, Helmut Marko never said that an “upgrade” will only be available for one car.
He also never said that the number 2 car will be a testbed like guinea pig.
What he said was that they might not have parts ready for both cars so sometimes they have to experience with lots of different things during practice and different suspension settings which makes the setup unpredictable and the car difficult to drive.
You need to stop imagine things up from your bias...
www.gpblog.com/en/news/67209/marko-explains-where-the-problem-lies-with-albon.html
@@tonamg53 Mate there is NO WAY Gasly would have won that race in the Verstappen designed RB, that's what happens when you design a car around one driver.....
@@pr-tj5by Design a car around a driver is a myth that only stupid people would believed.
Think about it, how do you set out the requirements for the car? If they really design it for Max?
You need to be very specific and know exactly all the details. Driver’s preferences are not specific.
“Hey Max, how would like us to build you a car?”
“I like driving a car that’s 5m 23cm 45mm long and I want the width to be no more than 3.5m”
Its silly…. They design the car to the specifications set out by FIA, not the drivers.
@@tonamg53 That RB is completely designed around Max....
That's not the case with Merc cos both drivers have input, Merc explained this a good while ago and said that if the car is designed around one guy then the other driver will suffer in a tight Constructors race
Considering how well Bottas does in qualifying you have to say that they're correct
Why is nobody talking about how dangerous Vettels brake failure was? Imagine this happening at Monaco T1 or Sochi
Also Vettel gave Charles a tow in Q1 while he didnt got one.
My goodness it scared the crap out of me seeing him go trough like that. Remembered when Massa went straight to the barrier after getting hit in the head
Didn't Vettel drive past Charles in Q2? I would say he chose for it himself. Charles also had a board radio with the question why vettel passed him. You can't get a tow when you pass the one who would provide it for you.
@@matthijsdehaan3909 vettel didnt make it into Q2 mate.
@@princesssaki1474 lmao i must be dreaming then. Time to sleep. When was this onboard then? I think i've mistaken it for Q1
Ferrari are a scumbag team.
Top 5 points scorers in the last 10 GPs:
Lewis Hamilton - 196
Max Verstappen - 153
Valtteri Bottas - 129
Lando Norris - 65
Pierre Gasly - 61
ABCDEF1 STANDINGS
Points - A* = 6 down to F = 0, U = -1
Hamilton 42
Verstappen 40
Gasly 37
Sainz 35
Norris 34
Ricciardo 33
Stroll 31
Russell 31
Leclerc 29
Raikkonen 29
Bottas 28
Kvyat 26
Magnussen 25
Ocon 25
Latifi 23
Albon 22
Vettel 22
Perez 21
Grosjean 20
Giovinazzi 17
Hulkenberg 10
*confused sound*
Hulkenburg 10 pts from 2 races, legend
43 likes and I don't get it
@@eIucidate a* 6 points a 5, b 4, c 3, d 2, e 1, f 0 points. U -1 points
Everyone loves a good underdog story that's it, that's why we loved this race
The best we're not performing their best and that's why they didn't win. If you don't show up on game day you don't take home the trophy.
@peter pan nothing would have happened to Lewis if his engineer simply saw the message like every other car in the grid except for Giovonazzi.
Everyone else clued in, bad job by Mercedes, therefore the best did not perform their best.
*Edited misspelling of job
@peter pan I'm not sure how the notifications work but I don't think they hid it. Maybe they tried to time it when he was too close, but where was Giovonazzi if he also went in. I'm not blaming Lewis, he had an amazing drive and deserved that win, I agree they robbed him, but rules is rules, monza really needs a pit light, and hopefully no race is decided on this merit ever again.
Watching before the podcast. Hopes Tommy predicts Ham, Bot, Ver podium again.
Lol you thought
But he did
@@حارس-م3ي you don't get the joke
Shadow Blade yeh probably don’t
I love this podcast!
It's like discussing F1 with F1 loving friends I never had.
Gasly and ocon together at Renault wouldn’t work. They don’t get along very well.
Roble urni does ocon get on with anyone? Other than ricciardo who everyone seems to get on with lol 😂
@@matthewdavis7674 Apparently he gets on well with Lance
@@samba-v8c apparently
@@samba-v8c , Lance too is a good guy a good person so why wouldn't anyone?
Yeah Ocon had a big Rant after the race. Wonder why😅
And remember this result happened with BOTH Mercs still in the race. This result I am sure people could only imagine when the Mercs and the fast RedBull were somehow taken out of the race. Amazing stuff, love it!
I think gasly will stay with Alpha Tauri, that's just his home
Renault is his next best bet. Wait, till Alonso retires again. Be it in 2023.
Lmao, no he won't.
@@TheBrass18 OK yeah sure after the new regulations everything will change
Kvyat out, Tsunoda in Alpha Tauri Rosso.
Gasly makes Alpha Tauri look like a top tier car ✌✌, the man is a legend.
Honestly McLaren was the second fastest car on sunday.
Lando wouldve been 2nd or 3rd without the red flag.
Yes he would, crazy rule that Stroll could change his tyres during the red flag. Not fair!!
@@ml8022 you say crazy but Monaco one year RB did the same thing with Vettel when he was in the lead and had dead tyres everyone was up in arms about it then
@@ml8022 the other way round its anfair for stroll.....if everybody has made his stop and he has to do his he will be last
And its actually not a mandatory pit stop( its just often called like that)
In the rules stands that u have to drive with 2 diffrent tyre compounds....it doesnt matter how u change the tires u just have to do it
P3
@@ml8022 same rules for everyone so it's literally fair.
Just gotta say guys, this is one of two shows on TH-cam over 30 minutes long that I'll actually watch the whole thing. Great job! 👍
Didn't watch TH-cam this week due to exams but after today's race getting excited for the podcast😀
There’s no rule requiring a “mandatory pit stop”, the rule is that each car must use two tire compounds in the race. 99.999% of the time it requires a pit stop to change tires.
IMHO F1 needs a rule to ban unnecessary work on the car during a red flag (like every other race series) and if a team must change tires they are sent to the last place on the lead lap.
Just to add only dry compounds this applies to
The win was ultimately as impressive as it was lucky. The true winner of that race, after Hamilton's penalty, is Sainz. A win for Gasly in lucky circumstances does not automatically ascend him to some godly status that every team would be interested in. I highly doubt that any team that wasn't looking at him before would be looking at him now after the win.
True, he was very lucky to be in the position he was in.
The thing I think you didn't take in consideration is the fact teams are looking for guys that can stay so calm and make 0 mistakes while the pressure to perform is higher than ever before.
He had amazing pace, only sainz (who I rate very highly) could keep up. This race showed he is capable of great things, I do think teams could have changed their minds about gasly
Clearly haven’t seen how Gasly’s been driving this year, he’s been absolutely sensational
@@Duval-In-The-Wall I know, he is performing extremely well this season. I only think a race like monza's will bring him a lot of attention from bigger teams. Because he shows he is an excellent driver that will fight at every opportunity he gets. And it's very hard for drivers of the midfield to get that attention they deserve.
The way he didn't let his head down after being dropped by red bull and losing his friend Hubert, is to say the very least, exceptional!
I’m actually exited with the current ‘young’ or younger driver pool in F1 over the next 5 years.
Did you insinuate Charles in a Ferrari would be able to hold a podium position after Kimi in a faster Alfa-Romeo got eaten up by the train behind him after the red flag and finished out of the points?
These are the races that I watch F1 for. The rare race where everything we know about the sport is flipped on its head.
Still can't get over Gasly's win
I'm just hearing that said by Jeremy Clarkson and him saying yeuss with his smug face
23:22 Gasly will never go to a team with Ocon in it, or at the very least he wouldn't prefer to. There is major bad blood between them.
24:08 Lewis won't leave the sport for a while and there is a genuine chance that Mercedes keep botas for the passive dynamic that's there between them instead of promoting Russell. Just hope Russell doesn't get screwed over.
I want that kvyat wins so we can enjoy of the russian anthem😏
Yes
aw yes
coolest anthem ever.
Holy shit I never thought about that lmao
Is the soviet union anthem and the russian anthem the same?
Edit: yes it is
Love you guys but this was a pretty weird review this one.
Kvyat was catching Gasly which is why Gasly pitted early. Apparent Gasly now a Mercedes candidate because he managed to seal the win (because the Alfas and Stroll held Sainz up).
Stroll out performed Perez apparently, even though Stroll was nowhere to be seen in the first half, got a free Pitstop and then somehow screwed up with the quickest car at the front.
I mostly agree. But what about Lando, why couldnt keep up with stroll? I dont think Stroll is a talent, but I think he did ok in this case (with a ton of luck ofc).
Also didn't understand why the different engine modes were affecting 'Honda' more, considering it's a Honda-powered car that won. Surely, with the same exuberant logic that was shown with 'Gasly maybe to Mercedes', Honda is now the quickest engine of the entire field and Ferrari would be considering switching engines.
jousis I would say that lando was having to keep bottas behind which, although bottas was having problems, would’ve slowed lando down. Also from the restart lando went from 7th to 4th stroll went from 2nd(1st without ham) to 3rd
I completely agree. Gasly through the yellow and red flag places gained 7places . Carlos fell 4 spaces. Gotta feel for the guy who’s bad luck has cost him 30 points, easy 4th place in the championship and now a race win.
@@barneymassey4244 Carlos was on fire in this race. Easy p2 behind ham if we didnt have the drama. Also, Mclaren nailed the setup, lets not forget that. I am little dissapointed of the meme boi, I really wanted to see him on the pondium with Carlos. It would be awesome.
I can’t wait in a few years time for a documentary to come out about this season, like what was done for the earlier seasons (late 2000s)
Drive to Survive
Literally Drive to Survive season 3
@@U_C_G my god its gonna be a spicy season isnt it. cant wait for it to debut
You mean the ones where it's a 2 hour run down of every race of importance with drama, drivers switches and big news inbetween? Isnt that from 1999 to 2007?
Shinbi Mane couldn’t only be then, could’ve gone to 2009 tho. I say that because I remember watching the 2009 one.
12:30 We've never had a standing start mid race after a red flag, the rule was changed in the past years. Before that it was always a flying restart.
Spa 2001
Spa 1998 was a grid restart, I remember one in Canada way back in the 1980s also, both massive crashes at the beginning of a race
I have nothing against Gasly, but he has won ONE race, and that was under unusual circumstances. I do hope whatever team he goes to gives him a good car and doesn't treat him like a second class driver, as Red Bull did, because he has the potential to be very good.
Also, the last year that Vettel and Raikkonen were at Ferrari, Raikkonen was on the podium at almost every race, just like Vettel.
Panis won Monaco also with a Honda engine. It was Mugen-Honda at the time.
Also a Mclaren came second i think 😅
Yee finally after a tiring day at school this is what I needed. Yayyy!!
Honestly i think Gasly will stay at Alpha Tauri for a while. That team really suits him in terms of environment, plus it's the place where he got his F1 debut, got a podium, and eventually a win too.
End of the day its a B-team never gonna challenge Red bull for the wins. Force India/ RP, Renault/ Alpine, and Mclaren would at least try to get better and win. Redbull will just absorb all the talent they can find in Alpha. And they have to wait for the right circumstances to make things like this happen. It would be a bad choice in the longterm if he aims to achieve more in F1. (If he doesn't want to end up like Fisichella).
Gotta say. A friend shared the picture of the 3 podium winners sitting by the podium. And it got a year to my eye.
This race was what racing is about.
What you guys touched on at 55:00 is why I love motorsport, unlike any other, I feel motorsport fans are fans of the sport itself rather than living or dying by a certain team or driver. So although we all have our favourites, the sport comes first, so an exciting race without your favourite winning is so much better than a simpler race where your favourite wins. At least, in my opinion, that's why I love motorsport and how I see most motorsport fans.
Waiting for day when this race will be covered under a “That time when” podcast ❤️
"Last years Red Bull (2019) was not such a bad car after all, seeing Pierre winning" Max Verstappen said with a huge grin.
Some of Tom's humor goes unappreciated. Never change Tommy!
*Matt and Tommy roasting the living daylights out of Bottas*
Me: “STOP HES ALREADY DEAD 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭”
I am Hamilton's biggest fan, yet yesterday was the happiest I've been watching F1 since Lulu's 3rd championship.
one possible reason why tires can be changed in a Red Flag scenario is Red Flags can occur when there is an extreme change in weather conditions (e.g. red flag due to wet conditions and the race restarts in dry/inter conditions).
I wanted to see Gasly win but man, watching Sainz be that racey.... It was exhilarating. It's going so good to see him at Ferrari.
i was gutted seeing kimi fall down so unlucky they didnt have a medium bc he was rly doing great on the 1st stint with it keeping up with the middfield pack
My 3 word race review: Glad leclerc's okay
My two cents (however much they're applicable) on the two main issues of the GP (however much they made things interesting):
- Scheduled single-car qualifying: let the cars go one at a time (maybe even with a 'standings order reversed' to spice things up a bit). We'd have a bit less drama and "racing" during qualies, but the drivers wouldn't slow each other down, they wouldn't jostle to get tow and they wouldn't have to throw away timed laps when someone else goes off ahead causing a yellow flag. On-track action would also be much more constant as there wouldn't be the "off time" in the middle of the three periods when teams are waiting for the last few minutes.
- Race control radio announcements: adopt the system from WEC with Eduardo Freitas and get someone to make the important annoucements -- Safety Car, yellow flags, pit lane closed, hell, even penalties -- over the radio to *everyone*. F1 may be too fast for some info (like sector yellows), but this would get rid of a lot confusions.
Right guys calm down I know it’s an amazing result for F1 and Gasly and I’m honestly delighted but let’s not get too carried away. He put in an amazing performance and did what he needed to do but It was down to a lot of luck remember. Let’s wait as see what happens for the rest of the season
I don’t think one extremely fortunate circumstance justifies a Mercedes seat
I think Gasly has proven since Spa 2019 that it isn’t just luck.
Just compare Kvyat and Gasly’s Q and race performance in 2020.
Its a bit hyperbolic but i agree with Leclerc that Gasly is the most exciting driver in F1 right now (except Verstappen if you Ask me).
Also Lewis’ penalty as well
Everyone can finally appriciate Hamilton is an amazing driver, if you see vettel in a shitbox, and then realize bottas isnt going anywhere.
And no accidental Tictum wins by reverse Grid plz
Ticktum got DQ, no win
I agree with Matt & Tom on Stroll. If he was only where he is because of his dad then he'd be the worst driver on the grid. He has 124 career points & 2 podiums at 21 years of age. Hulkenberg by comparison gets plenty praise for a guy with zero podiums in 10 years. People need to start putting respect on Stroll's name.
Be real...Stroll's only achievement in Monza was to lose p1 out of his grasp. Nothing special just luck. Hulkenberg's short stint with Racing point proves that he is a much better driver than stroll.
Was really waiting for this podcast
Absolutely spot on about some fans only being concerned about the drivers they support and putting down others which is a wrong thing to do.
It could've been a Mclaren double podium maybe even a 1-2 and for me as a Mclaren fan I'd love that but to see Gasly leading and winning the race was as much fun.
Sainz gets recognition, he's a Ferrari driver from next season but this win has really drawn much deserved attention towards Gasly who in my opinion and I've always believed this is the most underrated driver on the grid.
MATT I SPENT ALL OF MY DAY CHECKING MY NOTIFICATIONS EVERY 5MIN WAITING FOR THIS😭😭😭😭. I'M WRITING A TEST TOMORROW
Hello, it is I:
Procrastination
I think its interesting to think that because of the engine maps being one setting, we might see certain engines being better suited to power tracks where as another might be really good on tight technical tracks. I think that might really throw a spanner in the works and really make for great racing
Magnussen Got front wing damage at the start so he had to pit at was 50 seconds behind latifi, but according to the data he was lapping as fast as the Mclarens and he was on hards.
Formula 1 doesn't have a mandatory pit stop. It has a mandatory tyre compound rule.
It just so happens you can usually only change tyres when you pit lol.
Could you please put a time stamp? Those things where you can see the parts you talk about a certain topic
They always put them in the comments, never in the discription
“You are on this podium, but we do not grant you the rank of A* Driver.”
*Stroll watching WTF1* “This is outrageous! It’s unfair!”
I was down on Stroll but his performances have changed my mind. "Give Lance a Chance!"
Seriously I’m sick and tired of everyone telling me how great Russell is when race after race he fails to show it. He’s good at quali but every race he’s no where near, and every time he has a chance he makes a mistake
Kubica got a point last year and Latifi has 2 p11’s already this season. He needs to improve so much yet all everyone does is blindly call him the next Hamilton for some unknown reason
What do you say after Sakhir?
First time I have watched the whole podcast and now I am fan of it.
The tire changing under red flag condition also happened in Australia 2016 where Alonso and Gutierrez crashed and brought out the red flag. The Mercedes benefited greatly that day (especially Rosberg) who served their mandatory pitstop under red flag conditions switching from supersofts to mediums to take to the end of the race. I'm surprised people were confused or unaware of the ruling considering it happened very recently.
I'll say something really controversial here. In my opinion Red Bull is the team that is partially ruining F1, more than Mercedes. If RB would have given the same car with same parts and specs to both drivers then races would be much more interesting. Think about Spa for example. Like Lewis said about Red Bull, they can't concretely challenge Mercedes if they have only one car fighting for podiums/wins. Especially on the strategy side. Having two cars up there would seriously increase their probability to get a win. Also, the fact that Gasly didn't achieve any podium driving a Red Bull and then, after his sacking from the team, he has been able to get even a win with Alpha Tauri is a clear and indisputable proof that Red Bull drastically penalise their second driver in favour of Max. And that is so bad for the show. Think about having Ricciardo or Sainz now at Red Bull as Max's teammate... the fight between RB and Mercedes would be much more exiting than what it is at the moment.
Kimi was the fastest ferrari before the red flag, well clear of Leclerc by 2 sec, passed him on race start. Deserves an A.
The crash was Charles's fault. He lost the opportunity.
So happy for Gasly... just to see how tough the last 12-18 months have been for Gasly he deserves to show how well he can drive when he has support behind him at Alpha Tauri instead of the competitiveness at Red Bull. He has said before it feels like family there.
I think Gasly should look at joining other teams. Red Bull just seems toxic if you're not Max Verstappen
@@michaelthomson5125 There isn't even going to be a seat at any of these for the foreseeable future except maybe Racing Point Aston Martin and even then I imagine they'd take the rumored shot with Vettel way before Gasly. So maybe a test driver position? On that note, man, poor Sergio. Even these guys are talking about Stroll out-performing him neglecting that he missed two races with the Covid and the fact that Stroll would have finished Monza 3-5 seconds behind him if he actually had pitted. Driver standings for Stroll-Perez should be 42-35 with Perez having those 2 fewer races.
As I said to my friend, I love Lewis and have been following him since 2011 and best believe I was annoyed he didn't win. But I had to stand up and applaude Gasly and I couldn't stop smiling at how happy I was for him.
Kills me to say it... Gasly out of the points at Mugello.
He got really lucky with the amount of chaos up in front, but I doubt his true pace itself is race winning material, so I'd agree with you, he's not a bad driver, but I don't think he'll be anywhere near the top 8 in the next few races, or the rest of the season
Francis Tan I agree but at Monza he had an opportunity and he took it, which shows if he gets a better car and develops some more he can be a race winner.
It’s not about he’s gonna win another race in that Alpha Tauri because that car can’t do it. He’s pulling off Top 8s because he is a good driver outperforming that car. I’m only saying his good run is gonna end at Mugello but I’m not saying it’s over for the rest of the season. It’s just that race win hangover.
Nailed it.
Leclerc would have been eated for breakfast by the mclarens and renaults, like Kimi was. Ferrari had a worse car than Alfa...
For the Bottas overtakes and divebombs you asked for, Abu Dhabi last year? Started last and almost got on the podium with no DRS for half the race.....
BIG MINI go sleep with Bottas
@@shehrantafhim5070 love to
My understanding around the "pit stop" rule is that you aren't required to make a pit stop, but you are required to use 2 different tire compounds during the race. Obviously in most situations this requires a pit stop, but Stroll met the letter of the law by changing tires during the red flag.
Gasly changing his tyres when the red flag came out was really important, I don't know if he would have a chance with their previous hard tyres against Sainz with medium. It's not the same as Stroll, but he also was really lucky
This was the first f1 race i watched live^^
I really don't like the Stroll loophole with the pit stop it just gave him 20 seconds for free. It has nothing to do with it being Stroll, i would critique any other driver in that position. All the other examples of a safety car or the pit lane closure are random events that add to the randomness of the race. This incident kind of reminds me of the Schumacher going into the pitlane to finish the race moment, maybe it's legal by the rules but then the rules need to be fixed. When Lewis got the 10 second penalty at first i thought that it would be unfair if that time was added at the finish time, but it was actually a stop and go penalty and i thought it was fair.
"When is Latifi gonna finish P11 again" was probably said after he finished there in Austria (we‘ll ignore that he was still last), so it’s not entirely out of the question. Another crazy race this season and he may go one better.
I watched the French commentary, and just kept smiling because you can tell how special it was for everyone, and how proud he sounded
Been waiting for this!!!!! Hypeeeddd
Wtf1 podcast a better post race analysis then the official f1 show
For me, one of the more telling radio comments was when Bottas says "I can't race with "this" engine".
Gone like the Party Mode, Gone like the days of old.
I think Pierre Gasly not only did himself a grand favor in the driver sweepstakes but also many of the other good drivers in the midfield. This race shows that there are other race winners on the grid given the opportunity to prove their worth. Given half a chance several other guys could shake up the standings. The pressure is on the team(s) effort to produce a car equal to MB
Cannot believe the Mercedes might be interested in Gasly comment 🤣🤣
I don't like when people hate on Stroll just because his dad runs the team, that in my mind actually helps him avoid criticism. No one is talking about his driving but the fact that he is the son of a team boss. I personally put him somewhere in the middle of the drivers skill rank this year and it goes something like this: Hamilton, Verstappen, Gasly, Sainz, Norris, Leclerc, Bottas, Ricciardo, Perez, Vettel, Stroll, Albon, Kimi, Russel, Ocon, Kvyat , Magnussen, Grosjean, Giovinazzi, Latifi.
Just love how you throw the question "stroll underrated ?" like 2 days after he had a victory freely given to him and threw it away
As a Mercedes fan, it was a very enjoyable race. Lots of drama, unreal & unexpected podium with 3 different engine manufactures as well, zero points for both Ferrari and Red Bull, Lewis charging through the field and Mercedes extending their gap to their competitors in the championship. Perfect storm!
I been waiting for this muthafunkah alll fuunnnkin day!! Viva la France! Gasly to Tha world! Him winning is my top 2 highlight for 2020. Number 1 highlight is finding out my wife is expecting our second child! What an eff’n race! Gasly sitting and reflecting on the podium..I’m finding that photo and making it a poster!!!
Well in MotoGP after a Red Flag, people are allowed to refuel, change tires so on. Its basically a new race, like we had now in F1.
honestly, I knew something was up when Albon went from being challenging for p1 to struggling in q3
I think about the mandatory pitstop thing, the rule doesn't explicitly say you have to stop once but like you need to run two different compound of tires during races, thereby necessitating a pitstop under normal circumstances. Correct me if i am wrong. Hence stroll could just change his tires to a different compound and race without stopping again
This only feels so so extra special because it doesn’t happen too often
Renault doesn't gamble on strategy. They won't risk anything and it's hurting them. They should have been higher at that race
Somehow they managed to be boring didn’t think of them once in this race besides ocon being annoying in quali
I don't understand this talk about Stroll being underrated. He was on the podium yes, but he lucked into the podium spot with his free pit stop, lost two places on the restart, hurtled off the track and rejoined and doesn't often show much race craft compared to his peers.
The reason that stroll could change his tyres is because there isn't such a thing as a mandatory pitstop, there is however a rule that states that a driver should use two different tyre compounds. This than results in a net mandatory pitstop. But when you change your tyres during a red flag you fulfill the criteria for the tyre rule.
My opinion on changing tyres under the red flag is like this: Sometimes you have to take some risks just like Stroll did yesterday. If we are saying that "if you change your tyres under the red flag you gain 25 seconds of an advantage" well yes you are gaining an advantage but also under the safety car you gain almost 16 seconds. Let's rewind back to 2018 Azerbaijan GP. Because it was a street circuit everyone was waiting a SC but it never showed up. Therefore Ferrari pitted Vettel meanwhile Bottas gambled and waited for a SC, eventually SC did show up and he took the lead with a pit stop under the SC which gave him a 16 seconds advantage over Vettel. Gasly pitted before the SC yesterday and when SC was deployed he told team "You must be joking" with frustration. The last red flag was in 2017 Azerbaijan if I'm not wrong and before that it was Monaco 2011 and 2013 (talking about dry races). My point is red flags are so so rare and Stroll's gamble paid off. If we are talking about time advantage, we should ban pitstops under the safety car then. To me this whole discussion is meaningless.
I believe the distinction is that both mandatory tyre compounds must e used within the race, not that it has to be done by pitstop..
If Hamilton had been in Bottas' position at the restart I have no doubts he would of gone on to win. Bottas just isn't up for the fight at all! Also reverse grids i don't like, it feels artificial to me. Gaslys win would of been no where near as amazing if it was a reverse grid because it would feel forced. In football just because one game ends in a 5-4 thriller doesnt mean that they change the rules so a 0-0 cannot happen! Teams need to be brought closer together not a gimmick like reverse grids!
Watch F2. It works fine.
Bottas is not a great overtaker. How did he not make any places in 20 laps? in a car that is a second quicker in clean air than the next fastest car.
Spare a thought for Racing Point's pit crew, who are still waiting for Stroll to make his stop
Gasley did a great job driving the hell out of those fresh hards after restart, this is what won the race for him. Glad to see TR/AT win a race I really like this team
I understand the rules that not the pit stop is mandatory, two tyres types are mendetory.
So if you change the tyres under red flag you have two tyre types.
That is it - there is no such thing as a "mandatory pit stop", only a rule that mandates at least 2 tyre compounds need to be used during the race. As the red flag allows the pitcrew to intervene on the car, they can change the tyres. Theoretically, if someone found a way to change them while the car is running, it'd be entirely regular :D
Guys you literally forgot the fact that Perez had to miss two races
Ponti Vids Stroll has more points even with this
@@TomP1Bellingham Missed two races and a pit stop would have put him a few seconds behind Perez. Without that 16 point swing, it's 42-35 with Stroll having 2 more races.