I’m with Katy, really enjoy these 2-3 stop races. Gives so much more room for variance in strategy and just shuffles things up much more throughout the race
Ye i can understand why they dont want to do them (obviously making 4 times the amount of tyres is bad for the environment) but its so much cooler seeing a Vettel for example keeping his tyres in good condition and letting him mske 1 less stop
Me too ! I can't understand people who wants one-stop or non-stop races because "it's all about sprint and speed". Formula One is also strategies and management.
@@ehrlichgesagt863 The teams have a fixed amount of tyres for a GP weekend so if more tyres are needed in the GP they'll save them from earlier sessions. Dry tires: Hard c1(x2 sets), medium C2 tyres (x3 sets) and soft C3 tyres (x8 sets)
@@joeylammers3773 nah mate if it's maxico they have a very, very tough love way of showing it. Bordering on hate, as a matter of fact it is hate. Nevermind I get your joke.
This will not happen. People keep forgetting that Verstappen is much faster and Perez has no chance if Max's car works correctly. Perez never came close to the pace that Verstappen is able to bring. So let's not be delusional here people. I like Perez , but he has no change against Verstappen.
I personally think the team orders at the end were fine because max had way more pace and it is too much of a risk to let them fight, but i did think when max was stuck behind russel he shouldve returned the favor to checo and let him through earlier to let him attempt to overtake russel and not compromise his pace
Idk I think team orders so early on in the season when both drivers are still in the mix is kind of weird. In 2021 it made sense for bottas and checo who were 200 points behind hamilton and verstappen to give way for their teammates but when both drivers are still in it its weird to just tell one of them to give it up, even if he is the so called "number 2 driver"
I love how Sainz was basically ridicules for spinning on turn 4, adding to his list of "mistakes"so far this season) Then Max does it, wind is attributed and Carlos' spin was legitimate.
Yeah, but I think because the same thing happened to Max right afterwards it made people think hmm there might be some correlation here. Sucks, but kind of logical as well.
I mean F1 showed rb engineers giving an explanation on why it happened (tailwind), while when Carlos went off track F1 didn't show any Ferrari engineers giving explanation, so ofc people will think Carlos did his usual mistake
max didn't literally spin though he just went into the gravel a bit and controlled it better - hence the lack of car damage. carlos spun entriley lost control and damaged his car. both are mistakes - but one definitely controlled the car better during the event.
Katy gave Checo A* but let's not forget that he didn't have a perfect weekend overall. Part of the reason he was behind Russell was because he qualified 5th with 2 runs in Q3 which is just bad considering the other car qualified 2nd with just the first run in Q3.
Somehow I feel Sainz didn't have as bad of a season as it seems. In the two DNF's, one of them wasn't his fault. In the most recent race, he did had a spin going into gravel but so did Max with the gust of wind upsetting the car. Still including that, he has made 2 big errors, which agreed when you are fighting for constructors, this isn't acceptable, but still his season hasn't been abysmal. He still got podiums in all the races he finished apart from Spain. He just needs to have a few clean races like Miami.
Agreed. I think he’s at fault of setting high standards in all previous seasons and is now having a slightly sub par season rather than a terrible season
Max has won every race he’s finished this year, won last years drivers title and had better race pace, I don’t understand the uproar over checo being told don’t fight max for first
@@neuricas it was the best chance to get Max in 1st with Charles out. As a Lewis fan i understand the reason behind it no matter how much haters try to twist and bend things. It shows the cluelessness of the sport
I mean here's the things why don't idk just let them fight for like 2 lap, I mean is not like russel might catch up in those 2 lap, like to me, even team order after 1 lap fighting is kinda okay, is not necessarily people hate Max, it's just people hate team order period....
I feel like people keep forgetting Max was on ALOT flesher tires. Even without DRS im pretty sure he would pass Perez on the long straight because Max' exit out of the last corner would be much better on newer tires. Theres no reason to hold eachother and risk losing a 1.2 for the team. Keep in mind that Russel was still in play and could potentially get back to p1 on fresh tires if Max and Perez were holding eachother off for too long. Im prettt sure Perez knows this by now and isnt mad or anything. The team knows the data at the time and knows that its important to get Max through quickly to secure a 1.2 for the team. I still hope Perez will get a chance for a win soon tho. He drives amazing this season.
This 100x. Max and George lost like 6 seconds on leclerc when they battled. why have your drivers battle it out when 1. Max was on newer tires and 2. he wouldn't even be in that track position if his DRS worked.
@@cbreazienutz I wanna see that happen aswell. Sadly Perez isnt rlly on the same pace as Max most of the time so idk if this will happen. What I wanna see is Perez take pole for once and maybe Max P2 and then see what happens. Perez deserves to get wins, hes a solid driver.
Yeah, honestly the saving grace in my view that makes me want to stay patient with him is the confidence factor. He's had a huge knock to his confidence, and that psychological factor can play a massive role in your performance as a driver. In my opinion the demonstrator of that is the lack of consistency, which is something he used to be known for at McLaren. I want to see him get that back so he can really show what he can do. Still though, this year really is his last chance to prove he has the ability to be on the same level as the front runners.
He's not as good as Charles so the Bottas status will be a reality sooner rather than later. But hey, doesn't mean he cannot win races or get poles here and there like Bottas did.
He's a №2 in waiting after yesterday's bottle. God help that kid once the championship fight tightens up. I am surprised Ferrari is having so much patience in him. Carlos has lost it. He just can't deal with the car and I dunno how Ferrari can't help him work that out. I can't see them compromising much when Charles is on top of it.
My driver of the day was definitely lando. When I was younger I was hospitalized at least twice because of severe cases of tonsillitis and even now when I am still hit by it I can’t move for at least two days .. what he did in that heat driving that car and still getting points is nothing short of superhuman
"Mercedes are back".... no. They finally became quicker because of the updates, thats good. But they are still a lot slower than Redbull and Ferrari. People need to start putting things in context. Binotto: “[In qualifying] they were seven tenths off the pace in the quali lap, which is still a short circuit. [In the race] they finished 30 seconds or more from the Red Bull, and it could have been maybe 40 seconds to Charles [Leclerc]. “Forty seconds, 66 laps, is still six, seven tenths per lap. Six tenths, seven tenths a lap is still significant. It's like Ferrari last year." Totally true!
They have a car that can race now, Ferrari and RB didn't have a problem to fix. Merc has now fixed the problem and this is the first race that they were in battle, unlike the other two teams. If the next 3 to 4 races merc will have the deficit you are pointing out then your point will make sense.
@@MrJohnhunk just like binotto said numbers dont lie..in miami russell finish 18 seconds behind max..in spain russell finish 32 seconds how is that is improvement???if charles finish in spain russell will 50+ seconds behind..
@@Muhammad-gw8oy in Spain Russel started p4 in Miami he never got even into q3. In Miami Merc were nowhere near Ferrari and RB. In Spain Max couldn't get past George and the GOAT easily breezed past Carlos before being told to slow down after falling behind to p19 at the beginning of the race. RB didn't allow Checo to defend against Max in Spain while he was in a battle with Charles the entire race in Miami. There was no safety car in Spain that helped out George strategy in Spain unlike in Miami. You can't just copy paste times and compare the difference without looking at circumstances. Toto also said Lewis would be battling for a win with Max and Charles had he not been taken hit by the Haas.
Sainz is too eager to prove himself, and I think We all know that he thinks he is better than Charles, so his main goal is to beat Charles and prove he is the best, this lead him to make crucial mistakes. In italy Ferrari planned for glorious day, they even didn't risk and used new engine. Sainz tried to prove himself to tifosis , So made many bad mistakes and ruined Ferrari plan. In spain, his hometown, he wanted to have a great day so he has very bad start and then span. he can not tolerate pressure.
Exactly... the difference between the best and the ones that languish in second seem to be concerned with where they think they should be and what result they want to get vs just kicking ass and racing perfect laps / perfect races. Unfortunate about the tail wind spin, and I'm glad Verstappen had it too because everyone was too fast to jump on the Sainz criticism, but the fact remains that his head is not in the race/lap/sector at hand, and it makes them vulnerable to getting their head out of the game once they try not to lose or spin instead of finding the edge and focusing on point.
I don't think he does think he is better than Charles. Have you seen what he said about him? "Leclerc’s strong start to the season has impressed Sainz, who said his team mate is “driving at a very high level. “He’s putting together super, very impressive lap times, staying aggressive in his way of driving and I can only admire and in some ways copy and in others try to put it a bit more to my liking to be faster and that’s it.”
It was going to be quite dumb not to use the opportunity to put Max in 1st place in general standings with Leclerc out. Totally understandable team order. If Max finished 2nd he was going to be 1 point behind Charles
after last year i don't understand how people can't understand this. People say it is early in the season but every race matters the same, they are all equally important and if they lose the WDC by less than 7 points they would look like the biggest idiots in the whole Paddock.
@@_qwe_fk_1700 That wouldnt have happened, Max would get by easily even if Perez fight him, old mediums vs fresh softs, just go round the outside like Max is so good at. Perez never had a chance, team order was to avoid incidents, if you followed F1 long enough you know Perez is not the safest driver to get too close to, he had his fair share of penalties already before his Force India seasons.
I agree with this and switching them since max is overall more likely to have more points but I think the problem was with giving checko 3 team orders in one race…. I think the main problem is that when Checko had younger tires and came up behind Max trying to overtake George (with faulty drs) the team didn’t allow a switch between the two drivers to let checko overtake George (which he would’ve done easily with fresher tires, a quicker car and drs working) rather than holding checko up and letting max have several unsuccessful attempts at overtaking George. Whereas when checko earlier in the race was behind another driver the team gave him one lap to overtake than ordered him to switch with max. Do you not see the problem there? Checko was given one chance then told to move out of the way. Then when he was quicker per lap than max the team continually allowed max to make unsuccessful attempts rather than switching. I think the final switch at the end half of the race was just the last straw that checko had had enough of team orders (3 in one race…)
@@erin6379 they did switch position because they could not overtake Russell on track so they had to do it with strategy, is that so hard to understand?? They literally could not have swapped them.
Totally disagree with the over the top Sainz criticism. Verstappen made the exact same error which tells you it was purely bad luck from tail wind gust. Max had better fortune to not have damage to his floor. Also when Carlos spun he was immediately down 6 spots whereas Max lost one spot?
why do people keep saying max spun, carlos spun hard but max manadged to correct and control his car in time a lot better to stop spinning uncontrollably. he just went off into the gravel straight.
I think the drone could be a good addition to the broadcast for corners where the view from the helicopter is blocked by trees and buildings. I don't mind them not flying the drones over the track, it's more about placement/angle i think. i'm sure they will improve
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I quite like the drone shots despite the technical issue, and I appreciate different things being tried out... some people just love to complain.
I think their major weakness is that they don’t have a separate pilot and camera operator like the heli does. Therefore in most of the drone shots the cars are on the edge of the shot and the 60% in the center are grass and/or gravel. With an additional camera operator on the drone with zoom on the cars it could be a nice addition.
@@hugonottmayr It's a racing drone with a fixed camera that the pilot uses to fly the craft. If the camera turned away to follow a car it would become unflyable.
@Creative Drone Works The type of drone you are talking about has zero chance of keeping up with an F1 car. Only the light racing variety with a fixed camera, no GPS functionality at all, can manage.
For people saying it was too early to introduce team orders in race 6 Mercedes last year introduced team orders in race 4 and max is the clear favourite to fight for the 2022 WDC
There really was never any question that Max is Red Bull's number one, and I think David Coulthard expressed the situation perfectly... Checo's decision is basically "Do you want to be in Formula 1?", because there really isn't anywhere else for him to go right now. With that said, he was on a suboptimal strategy but still put his car at the front of the pack on merit. And whilst he needs to find a way to be okay with what his position in the team really is, I would hope that if the driver's and constructor's championships are wrapped up before the end of the season, they take his reigns of and let the pair of them have at it. I have no doubt that Max is fine with Checo being told to step aside. But they're both racers; and I have to believe that if you take away the need to protect points hauls for the championships (ie they're both decided), Max would want to race Checo properly because it is so much more rewarding than being waved through.
Checo would easily find another team. He could replace Riccardo at McLaren or Zhou in Alfa Romeo or maybe Sainz in a Ferrari. Don’t forget Checo was already in McLaren and he was an Ferrari Academy driver. Red Bull should be happy to have him if you see how bad Gasly and Albon did. We know all very well why Riccardo left Red Bull because of the preference for Max. Don’t forget that Max get the Updates first and than Checo gets them. If he had the same Updates he would be easily faster.
@@peter4223 mclaren already put their money on arguably more successful driver (ric) and it didnt paid off. I doubt they will make same mistake again. Alfa Romeo needs external funding and they already have great driver (bottas) in 2nd seat. Ferrari already has great lineup, no point messing it up. If it's not redbull for Checo, its retirement
@@peter4223 whatever you say, where were all those teams when Red Bull gave him that lifeline contract? Ricardo is currently under contract until the end of 2023, Sainz until the end of 2024, why would McLaren or Ferrari go to the expense of buying out those contacts (and the likely eye watering penalties that are involved) just to get Checo? Zhou is probably only contacted until the end of 2022, but with Shanghai contacted until at least 2025, plus the finances behind Zhou, there isn't really a good reason for Alfa to want Checo in that seat instead. Checo's a really good driver, but he really doesn't have the options you would like to think he has.
@@peter4223 you are wrong. Sainz has a contract, Mclaren have some drivers lined up, Alfa have Pouchaire in F2. Perez was not that much faster compared to Albon.
In linear time, that seems to be the correct order of things. Non-linear time would be like "Sainz who won next years championship will spin but finish 4th, and as you know Max will then spin on the same place"
@@yoeriw7099 ye sainz looked first like he had just extrem oversteer and lost it while max was drifting and still wasnt slowing down made it really obvious that the wind just pushed him but interesting how nobody else had it that day
Unfortunately, I feel like the only case where Perez can have a point in asking to talk after the race is if there was a prior agreement like "If Max has problems with his car, you're fully allowed to pass him and finish ahead of him."
before this season started ,Ferrari seemed to have arguably the best driver pairing on paper with both drivers in their primes, sainz has made alot of mistakes and can't seem to get into the groove, you can argue this one was not his fault but when you see his previous mistakes such as the DNF in Australia, it gets really hard to argue against the pattern. He might cost Ferrari the constructors tbh
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Mercedes upgrades have worked very well, I think they might be in contention for pole at Monaco. Lewis has a very good record there and we all know George is Mr saturday so pole is up for grabs.
Monaco is actually one of his weakest tracks. 3 wins, and only 2 in dominant Mercedes cars. One due to a RB pitstop mistake, the other due to Nico being absolutely terrible in the wet. To compare, Nico managed 3 in a row. And before people say, “Well, Mercedes were always bad at Monaco.” That’s just wrong. They won 5 of the last 7.
@@theglitch312 The Merc wasn't that dominant around Monaco in 2016. Overall obviously but there's a reason other than Riccardo's brilliance he got that close to the victory he ultimately lost due to that pit stop. The RB was pretty damm good that weekend.
@@scotthenderson1218 Yeah exactly, one out of 2 years (2016, 2018) the Mercedes had basically no chance of winning at Monaco was one where he did win with a lot of luck. 2017 Bottas had a good shot at pole. Barely missed out by less than a 0.05s. Hamilton had trouble finding a clean gap, didn’t even reach Q3. 0.05s to Bottas’ a time Lewis should be able to beat. Same story for 2021, Bottas qualified within 0.03s of the race winner, Hamilton was a full 0.5s away. Likely again trouble finding a good gap. He won Monaco on pure pace once in 8 attempts at Mercedes while Rosberg managed 3 wins in only 4 attempts and didn’t get 4/4 since he sucks in the rain. 2018 Mercedes was nowhere. 2019, they qualified half an insane 0.5s clear of the RB. At Monaco… With a super short laptime… So Hamilton finally got a second win with Mercedes, but he did have a vastly superior car to do it in. I’m just trying to say that Hamilton’s track record at Monaco isn’t as stand out as the first commenter claims it is. I think he lost to Rosberg/Bottas in qualifying and/or races more at that track than any other track. It’s objectively one of his weakest tracks. While Hungary and Silverstone are some of his strongest.
Everyone so angry about the checko situation but LISTEN TO WHAT WAS SAID, "If Max is faster let him through" Max was faster, why hold him up and risk not getting the 1-2 and potentially binning it. Checko wasn't told to just let him go, people need to listen to the words that are being said
I think the main problem is that when Checko had younger tires and came up behind Max trying to overtake George (with faulty drs) the team didn’t allow a switch between the two drivers to let checko overtake George (which he would’ve done easily with fresher tires, a quicker car and drs working) rather than holding checko up and letting max have several unsuccessful attempts at overtaking George. Whereas when checko earlier in the race was behind another driver the team gave him one lap to overtake than ordered him to switch with max. Do you not see the problem there? Checko was given one chance then told to move out of the way. Then when he was quicker per lap than max the team continually allowed max to make unsuccessful attempts rather than switching. I think the final switch at the end half of the race was just the last straw that checko had had enough of team orders (3 in one race…)
@@syndicategaming1668 LH44 beat Max in the first race of 2021 because he managed to defend perfectly. If Checo was given the opportunity to defend his position he would have won the race. Simple
I think this was one of the least egregious examples of team orders ever. Your teammate catches you with a huge pace delta, on a different strategy, with over 15 laps to go? You should let him through. It would be a different situation if the pace difference was less, or the race was closer to the end.
I think max passing checo at the end was inevitable in the way the race turned out, but in the middle of the race when checo asked for max to get out of the way for him to get the full potential of his strategy
Checo shouldn't have been significantly slower then? It's not like they held him up, Max just made up a huge gap in a couple laps. Letting them fight would have achieved nothing but Max winning anyways, AND depriving Checo of the extra point he got from being able to pit for fastest lap. You could definitely argue they should have gotten max into the pits sooner behind george, but there is not a single logical reason anyone can give for them not swapping when they had that many laps left. It was just a no brainer.
I recall George Russell getting warned about overheating in the engine quite early in the race so if he was a bit slower than Hamilton sometimes that is probably it. He was also battling with the Red Bulls so the defense will have slowed him down.
Russell was alone much of the race, he just didnt have better pace, while Lewis would have taken Perez had Kmag not rammed him. Russells severe hay fever may have contributed to his slower pace.
@@pflaffik What are you? Some Lewis fan? This is totally false. Russell was ahead of or with the Red Bulls up until the last 20 laps. Lewis never had to race with the front runners so it’s impossible to speculate how he would’ve done without his first lap incident. He probably would’ve gotten stuck behind Russell and had an uneventful race.
Daniel has been put on notice by Zak as well properly for the first time after Spain with him saying he hasn't lived up to expectations he's gone at this rate the first chance they get so they can get one of their young guns in
Gotta feel for DR but c'mon man this the top level of motorsport, there is no forgiveness to be expected. And McLaren has some young blood waiting in the wings.
Petition for baby Grace to also get a Leclerc onesie and we get a raceweek ‘spin the wheel’ to see which onesie she should wear, to keep the Drivers Championship battle interesting.
Everybody seems to be suggesting that Red Bull put Checo on the worse strategy on purpose, but they seem to forget that Max was on a 2 stop strategy as well because the seriously thought it would be the fastest. It wasn't until he got stuck behind Russell with his DRS problem that they switched him to a 3 stop strategy. And in all fairness, the 2 stop strategy could work if managed properly. Not counting his lap 1 tire change Hamilton made it work by looking after his tires and going long. Without the issues in the final laps he would have had the fastest race time of anyone. So yeah, it makes sense for RB to as Checo to be patient and look after his tires after that first pitstop.
Team orders make perfect sense. The WDC is 110 to 104 for verstappen, if checo wins it, it would be 104 to 103 to Leclerc. So they would’ve given up the championship lead.
The championship lead is imaginary until the last race. They're giving up a small chance that without team orders, Max somehow doesn't win, and loses the championship as a result.
@@peterhuston7888 you win the WDC over the whole season. So points lost a te points lost no matter it’s early in the season ou at the end. So they are right doing it, since Checo inst on Max’s pace.
In 1999 Ferrari lost the title because of team orders they gave the team order to Michael and lost the title by few points with BC. If they never done that would of won the title that year.
Ultimately if Perez and Max don't end the season within 14 points of each other, this shouldn't really matter. Perez would be the only person on earth who doesn't know he's the number 2 driver if he keeps having digs at his team this season, he does know, surely.
Russell outqualifies his teammate, finishes ahead in the race and gets a lower grade because Hamilton looked impressive while recovering from an incident?.... ridiculous.
Not really ridiculous, Lewis was bettering George’s pace on 15 lap old mediums whilst George was on new tyres. Also the collision wasn’t really Lewis’ fault so you can’t blame him for that. If the incident hadn’t of happened between him and KMag I’m certain Lewis would of finished ahead of George and might of even been fighting for P2
@@jakesidwell99 You can’t grade the race on speculation and surely it’s better to have a clean weekend than an incident. I see the incident as a pure racing incident but a clean weekend still deserves a higher score than a recovery.
Not sure if "improve" is the right approach for Sainz. We know for a fact that he is good, he has been most consistent last season and hardly made any mistakes in 21... I think he just needs to chill or somehow dissociate from all the pressure and just do his thing. He seems so jittery and on edge all the time and surely that doesnt help towards mistake free driving😁
I agree but unfortunately Sainz is very rubbish and can’t win races on pure pace because considering he potentially had the fastest car this week but he flopped as usual so I think Ferrari must start considering their options to replace him
@@danyb97 I think Matt summed up the problem, it's snowballing, he is trying to push to make up for previous mistakes causing more and more mistakes. I think it's too soon to start thinking about replacement as the wind did mess him up, That being said he has got to start relaxing behind the wheel otherwise yh he will be out of there.
I don't care about team orders but i find it hypocritical cause max didn't give place to Perez when battling George even though max didn't have drs and checo was clearly faster
Feels like people are forgetting that Max was 1 second a lap quicker than Perez anyways. Even without drs and Checo defending it would probably been a somewhat easy pass
One point about DRS - Whilst Im not a massive fan, I have come to accept and indeed appreciate it. People wanting to get rid (sorry Pete Windsor) are harping back to a past era with "angry old men" energy. BUT - If DRS is too powerful on a weekend, move the DRS ACTIVATION zone 50/whatever yards up the road... if its not powerful enough, bring it closer to detection by 50/whatever yards. DRS then becomes dynamic for all cars and provides a way to fine tune it to get closer to the goldilocks target. You can even do it at half race point...add another variable to confound strategists...
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Yeahh, on the drone shots, maybe they were trying what they did in testing, which look good and epic, but it didn´t work --+needs polishing. And, Hamilton, he was destroying that engine. Ironic. Those black and white flags don´t give out on their own. Good race, great episode!
The moment Sergio Repaz start driving f a s t e r than Verstappen, beating him on track race after race, collecting more points and wins, he will have preference... until then.... he has to settle for second fiddle.
@@ehrlichgesagt863 Sainz and Perez both. Max gets one run at the start of Q3, gets a comfortable P2 in a car that didn’t look fast enough for pole anyways, Leclerc fucks his first run and nabs pole by well over 3 tenths. Meanwhile, their teammates with 2 runs are still comfortably behind them. That’s why Leclerc and Max will get preferential treatment.
*Checo/Max - The team orders thing leaves a biter taste, but 100% the right thing for RB to do. *Checo/Max - No way Checo doesnt know his place @ RBR. But Max is a significant step better and more likely. *Sainz/Le Clerc - fastest pairing on paper - but probably most "emotionally" vulnerable on the grid. *Hamilton/Russell - not so much good luck for George, but bad luck for Hamilton *Hamilton/Russell - Russell has always had good one lap pace - Lewis' issue is that he has to beat him on Saturday. *Ham/KMag - race incident and done with. Remember when we used to have those without all the blaming/flaming? Note to KMAG or anyone overtaking on lap 1..."you cant win a GP on lap 1 - you can only lose one" Note to KMAG or anyone overtaking on the outside of a corner... you do so at your own risk. *These 2 together - better risk assessment. Kmag had softs, Lewis tyres would be 2 or 3 laps to get up. Patience and pick a better spot!
On the question of team orders at Red Bull... Does this mean that to win the drivers title, Mercedes needs to give team orders to Hamilton when Russell is behind him just because there is a gap between the points they've scored?
No. Because Russell has not been quicker than Lewis this year. They've had equal speed (if anything Lewis has been quicker in races), but Lewis has had worse luck. Max has been generally faster than Perez.
They don’t need to worry about team orders as long as they’re this far off from competing for the WDC. Until they start winning multiple races in a row on merit they won’t be thinking about issues like team orders.
Im a Mercedes fan, obviously like Lewis, but George's driving, consistency, little or no mistakes and ability to defend, attack and car placement is really really good...a little overlooked too
Maybe if Checo hasn’t been dominated virtually his entire existence as Verstappens teammate it wouldn’t be a problem. It’s clear who the number 1 is, Verstappen is a level above everyone on the grid never mind his own teammate who has beaten by him in Quali as a teammate 26/28 times.
Checo had to let Max through after he spun, wasn't allowed to overtake Max when he approached him with fresher tires and had to let him through again for the win. And he got put onto the worse strategy despite having his first pit stop way later than Max.
@@pflaffik that’s because of the strategy my guy. Even tho max lost it in that corner they still provided him with the better strat even tho he was behind Checo
Justifying ham over saying that he wanted to retire with that fuels him is insane guys insane. It's like ham is justified for everything he does. If that were any other driver you would have destroyed him.
Charles had the race in control, even before Max made the mistake he was pulling away from max with the soft tyres. According to Perez has been poor in qualification but very strong in race pace probably stronger than max. Sainz should prepare more in his race setups cause he has been terrible in that aspects. When you are in a big team that main goal is to win the championship he has to deliver, and stop making excuses.
@@Jimbo7 Of course man the only difference is that Perez cannt attack Max, Cause of team orders. This year we can see that the car suits his style and he is very confident.
@@10parth10 it was around lap 26 when he asked for the position swap. Max pitted on lap 28. And it wasn't that perez was within a second of max when he asked.
17:55 ferrari fixed their setup and charles was doing faster lap than max and george while being on a older soft also merc arent there at all as mattia said and charles' pace prpved thier were around 7 tenth slower per lap and base on amus ferrari have much more budget compare to rb and merc so stop saying "ferrari will fall behind" the first upgrade package and they got their pace advantage back
I’m with Katy, really enjoy these 2-3 stop races. Gives so much more room for variance in strategy and just shuffles things up much more throughout the race
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Ye i can understand why they dont want to do them (obviously making 4 times the amount of tyres is bad for the environment) but its so much cooler seeing a Vettel for example keeping his tyres in good condition and letting him mske 1 less stop
Me too ! I can't understand people who wants one-stop or non-stop races because "it's all about sprint and speed". Formula One is also strategies and management.
@nameless 2011-2013 tyres wasn't very bad for racing (Okay, maybe 2013 was too much)
@@ehrlichgesagt863 The teams have a fixed amount of tyres for a GP weekend so if more tyres are needed in the GP they'll save them from earlier sessions. Dry tires: Hard c1(x2 sets), medium C2 tyres (x3 sets) and soft C3 tyres (x8 sets)
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and you have heard it… and now it’s race week again.. Monaco 🇲🇨 baby
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Same,
It is raw week though?
Imagine this situation in Mexico, checo leading and being asked to let max past. God help Horner he need a bodyguard
maxico?
@@joeylammers3773 bruh
@@joeylammers3773 nah mate if it's maxico they have a very, very tough love way of showing it. Bordering on hate, as a matter of fact it is hate. Nevermind I get your joke.
If Horner asks for Multi 1-11 in Mexico he'd better have a small army on standby
This will not happen. People keep forgetting that Verstappen is much faster and Perez has no chance if Max's car works correctly. Perez never came close to the pace that Verstappen is able to bring. So let's not be delusional here people. I like Perez , but he has no change against Verstappen.
I personally think the team orders at the end were fine because max had way more pace and it is too much of a risk to let them fight, but i did think when max was stuck behind russel he shouldve returned the favor to checo and let him through earlier to let him attempt to overtake russel and not compromise his pace
Well it was indirectly done when they calle max to the Pit no?
@@annoyingrat3710 yeah but it took quite a few laps i think when perez had fresher tires
@@eljay543 I guess, valid point. Just don't know how much 2 or 3 laps really impacted everything, but we'll never know
Idk I think team orders so early on in the season when both drivers are still in the mix is kind of weird. In 2021 it made sense for bottas and checo who were 200 points behind hamilton and verstappen to give way for their teammates but when both drivers are still in it its weird to just tell one of them to give it up, even if he is the so called "number 2 driver"
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I love how Sainz was basically ridicules for spinning on turn 4, adding to his list of "mistakes"so far this season) Then Max does it, wind is attributed and Carlos' spin was legitimate.
Yeah, but I think because the same thing happened to Max right afterwards it made people think hmm there might be some correlation here. Sucks, but kind of logical as well.
I mean F1 showed rb engineers giving an explanation on why it happened (tailwind), while when Carlos went off track F1 didn't show any Ferrari engineers giving explanation, so ofc people will think Carlos did his usual mistake
gotta hate on the brown drivers.
gotta hate on the brown drivers.
max didn't literally spin though he just went into the gravel a bit and controlled it better - hence the lack of car damage. carlos spun entriley lost control and damaged his car. both are mistakes - but one definitely controlled the car better during the event.
Katy gave Checo A* but let's not forget that he didn't have a perfect weekend overall. Part of the reason he was behind Russell was because he qualified 5th with 2 runs in Q3 which is just bad considering the other car qualified 2nd with just the first run in Q3.
Yeah, except Mercedes had lots of upgrades as well as Max Car being 6kg lighter than Checo's
@@chorick2000 As well as Checo not having first practice
@@chorick2000 6kgs?source?
I'm pretty new to the sport, even newer to following this channel. But man this podcast is a bright spot in the day. Ongoing thanks all.
I was amazed how much traction Max had in/on the gravel. He absolutely floored it yet did not dug himself stuck
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In the gravel speed is your friend. Most of the time you dig yourself in. Its because you are going so slow, the gravel had time to get out of the way
Pure skill that he didnt go full 360, Max has shown before that he masters recovery, that time in Sao Paulo was a really beautiful save.
@@pflaffik And he actually almost lost the car later in the race when going after Russel, and recovered it nicely
I think it was Martin brundle that said Max has got some of the best car control hes seen since Gilles Villeneuve.
Somehow I feel Sainz didn't have as bad of a season as it seems. In the two DNF's, one of them wasn't his fault. In the most recent race, he did had a spin going into gravel but so did Max with the gust of wind upsetting the car. Still including that, he has made 2 big errors, which agreed when you are fighting for constructors, this isn't acceptable, but still his season hasn't been abysmal. He still got podiums in all the races he finished apart from Spain. He just needs to have a few clean races like Miami.
Yeah, I think Tommy is going very hard on him. 4th should be the bear minimum he should be able to get and he hasn't finished lower yet.
Agreed. I think he’s at fault of setting high standards in all previous seasons and is now having a slightly sub par season rather than a terrible season
Sainz is slow as fuck !!
He can’t match the pace of Verstappen and Leclerc
Max has won every race he’s finished this year, won last years drivers title and had better race pace, I don’t understand the uproar over checo being told don’t fight max for first
Anti max propaganda has to say that, while Merc reain shite
They were hoping for a potential Red Bull bottle job. None of them cares about fair racing.
@@neuricas it was the best chance to get Max in 1st with Charles out. As a Lewis fan i understand the reason behind it no matter how much haters try to twist and bend things. It shows the cluelessness of the sport
I mean here's the things why don't idk just let them fight for like 2 lap, I mean is not like russel might catch up in those 2 lap, like to me, even team order after 1 lap fighting is kinda okay, is not necessarily people hate Max, it's just people hate team order period....
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I feel like people keep forgetting Max was on ALOT flesher tires. Even without DRS im pretty sure he would pass Perez on the long straight because Max' exit out of the last corner would be much better on newer tires. Theres no reason to hold eachother and risk losing a 1.2 for the team. Keep in mind that Russel was still in play and could potentially get back to p1 on fresh tires if Max and Perez were holding eachother off for too long. Im prettt sure Perez knows this by now and isnt mad or anything. The team knows the data at the time and knows that its important to get Max through quickly to secure a 1.2 for the team.
I still hope Perez will get a chance for a win soon tho. He drives amazing this season.
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This 100x. Max and George lost like 6 seconds on leclerc when they battled. why have your drivers battle it out when 1. Max was on newer tires and 2. he wouldn't even be in that track position if his DRS worked.
@@IAmKry exactly
Now what would’ve happened if the roles were reversed?
@@cbreazienutz I wanna see that happen aswell. Sadly Perez isnt rlly on the same pace as Max most of the time so idk if this will happen. What I wanna see is Perez take pole for once and maybe Max P2 and then see what happens. Perez deserves to get wins, hes a solid driver.
01:19:20 Katy being the absolute queen that she is, just waged war with Matt.🤣🤣🤣.
Emotional Damage !
Apply cold water to burned area*
Had high hopes for him after last year. As he was being praised a lot. Hope he can turn it around before he becomes Number 2 or the new bottas
Isnt he already degraded somehow? Too many mistakes and leclerc is the favorite
Yeah, honestly the saving grace in my view that makes me want to stay patient with him is the confidence factor. He's had a huge knock to his confidence, and that psychological factor can play a massive role in your performance as a driver. In my opinion the demonstrator of that is the lack of consistency, which is something he used to be known for at McLaren. I want to see him get that back so he can really show what he can do.
Still though, this year really is his last chance to prove he has the ability to be on the same level as the front runners.
He's not as good as Charles so the Bottas status will be a reality sooner rather than later. But hey, doesn't mean he cannot win races or get poles here and there like Bottas did.
If he continues this trajectory, he probably worse than bottas
He's a №2 in waiting after yesterday's bottle. God help that kid once the championship fight tightens up. I am surprised Ferrari is having so much patience in him. Carlos has lost it. He just can't deal with the car and I dunno how Ferrari can't help him work that out. I can't see them compromising much when Charles is on top of it.
My driver of the day was definitely lando. When I was younger I was hospitalized at least twice because of severe cases of tonsillitis and even now when I am still hit by it I can’t move for at least two days .. what he did in that heat driving that car and still getting points is nothing short of superhuman
"Mercedes are back".... no. They finally became quicker because of the updates, thats good. But they are still a lot slower than Redbull and Ferrari.
People need to start putting things in context.
Binotto:
“[In qualifying] they were seven tenths off the pace in the quali lap, which is still a short circuit. [In the race] they finished 30 seconds or more from the Red Bull, and it could have been maybe 40 seconds to Charles [Leclerc].
“Forty seconds, 66 laps, is still six, seven tenths per lap. Six tenths, seven tenths a lap is still significant. It's like Ferrari last year."
Totally true!
this is true..people hyping merc comeback is crazy..
They have a car that can race now, Ferrari and RB didn't have a problem to fix. Merc has now fixed the problem and this is the first race that they were in battle, unlike the other two teams. If the next 3 to 4 races merc will have the deficit you are pointing out then your point will make sense.
@@Muhammad-gw8oy They aren't back?
@@MrJohnhunk just like binotto said numbers dont lie..in miami russell finish 18 seconds behind max..in spain russell finish 32 seconds how is that is improvement???if charles finish in spain russell will 50+ seconds behind..
@@Muhammad-gw8oy in Spain Russel started p4 in Miami he never got even into q3. In Miami Merc were nowhere near Ferrari and RB. In Spain Max couldn't get past George and the GOAT easily breezed past Carlos before being told to slow down after falling behind to p19 at the beginning of the race. RB didn't allow Checo to defend against Max in Spain while he was in a battle with Charles the entire race in Miami. There was no safety car in Spain that helped out George strategy in Spain unlike in Miami. You can't just copy paste times and compare the difference without looking at circumstances. Toto also said Lewis would be battling for a win with Max and Charles had he not been taken hit by the Haas.
Sainz is too eager to prove himself, and I think We all know that he thinks he is better than Charles, so his main goal is to beat Charles and prove he is the best, this lead him to make crucial mistakes. In italy Ferrari planned for glorious day, they even didn't risk and used new engine. Sainz tried to prove himself to tifosis , So made many bad mistakes and ruined Ferrari plan. In spain, his hometown, he wanted to have a great day so he has very bad start and then span. he can not tolerate pressure.
Tifosi is already plural no need for s at the end! And good point sainz is definitely chasing Charles more than anything
@@PozzaPizz first of all I should correct Tifosi
Exactly... the difference between the best and the ones that languish in second seem to be concerned with where they think they should be and what result they want to get vs just kicking ass and racing perfect laps / perfect races. Unfortunate about the tail wind spin, and I'm glad Verstappen had it too because everyone was too fast to jump on the Sainz criticism, but the fact remains that his head is not in the race/lap/sector at hand, and it makes them vulnerable to getting their head out of the game once they try not to lose or spin instead of finding the edge and focusing on point.
@@enotdetcelfer 😍 exactly
I don't think he does think he is better than Charles. Have you seen what he said about him? "Leclerc’s strong start to the season has impressed Sainz, who said his team mate is “driving at a very high level. “He’s putting together super, very impressive lap times, staying aggressive in his way of driving and I can only admire and in some ways copy and in others try to put it a bit more to my liking to be faster and that’s it.”
Please add markers to your show and play the ABC trailers on full audio. People put a lot of work into these.
It was going to be quite dumb not to use the opportunity to put Max in 1st place in general standings with Leclerc out. Totally understandable team order. If Max finished 2nd he was going to be 1 point behind Charles
after last year i don't understand how people can't understand this. People say it is early in the season but every race matters the same, they are all equally important and if they lose the WDC by less than 7 points they would look like the biggest idiots in the whole Paddock.
@@_qwe_fk_1700 That wouldnt have happened, Max would get by easily even if Perez fight him, old mediums vs fresh softs, just go round the outside like Max is so good at. Perez never had a chance, team order was to avoid incidents, if you followed F1 long enough you know Perez is not the safest driver to get too close to, he had his fair share of penalties already before his Force India seasons.
@@pflaffik yup his fights with his teammate Ocon come to mind. Also yes the tyres was the other factor and on the start he immediately dropped off
I agree with this and switching them since max is overall more likely to have more points but I think the problem was with giving checko 3 team orders in one race….
I think the main problem is that when Checko had younger tires and came up behind Max trying to overtake George (with faulty drs) the team didn’t allow a switch between the two drivers to let checko overtake George (which he would’ve done easily with fresher tires, a quicker car and drs working) rather than holding checko up and letting max have several unsuccessful attempts at overtaking George.
Whereas when checko earlier in the race was behind another driver the team gave him one lap to overtake than ordered him to switch with max.
Do you not see the problem there? Checko was given one chance then told to move out of the way. Then when he was quicker per lap than max the team continually allowed max to make unsuccessful attempts rather than switching.
I think the final switch at the end half of the race was just the last straw that checko had had enough of team orders (3 in one race…)
@@erin6379 they did switch position because they could not overtake Russell on track so they had to do it with strategy, is that so hard to understand??
They literally could not have swapped them.
Katy doing voices is my new favorite thing in these podcasts!!😂
Totally disagree with the over the top Sainz criticism. Verstappen made the exact same error which tells you it was purely bad luck from tail wind gust. Max had better fortune to not have damage to his floor. Also when Carlos spun he was immediately down 6 spots whereas Max lost one spot?
Max didn’t spin, he got off track, but could rejoin faster. I think Max’s car control was better than Sainz.
How many times sainz spun that car this year?.....
why do people keep saying max spun, carlos spun hard but max manadged to correct and control his car in time a lot better to stop spinning uncontrollably. he just went off into the gravel straight.
Even if we count this spin as half mistake, he has already made 3 (now it's 3,5) mistakes, meanwhile Charles - 1, Max - 0,5 Checo - 0.
Matt: pole sitter wins the race
Tommy: it doesn’t happen a lot in Monaco
Katy: yeah, look at last year
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I think its better when you guys grade the drivers on your own time then reveal them to each other. You seem to influence each others grades! luvya
I think the drone could be a good addition to the broadcast for corners where the view from the helicopter is blocked by trees and buildings. I don't mind them not flying the drones over the track, it's more about placement/angle i think. i'm sure they will improve
Yeah that's what I was thinking. I quite like the drone shots despite the technical issue, and I appreciate different things being tried out... some people just love to complain.
I think their major weakness is that they don’t have a separate pilot and camera operator like the heli does. Therefore in most of the drone shots the cars are on the edge of the shot and the 60% in the center are grass and/or gravel.
With an additional camera operator on the drone with zoom on the cars it could be a nice addition.
@@hugonottmayr It's a racing drone with a fixed camera that the pilot uses to fly the craft. If the camera turned away to follow a car it would become unflyable.
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@Creative Drone Works The type of drone you are talking about has zero chance of keeping up with an F1 car. Only the light racing variety with a fixed camera, no GPS functionality at all, can manage.
For people saying it was too early to introduce team orders in race 6 Mercedes last year introduced team orders in race 4 and max is the clear favourite to fight for the 2022 WDC
There really was never any question that Max is Red Bull's number one, and I think David Coulthard expressed the situation perfectly... Checo's decision is basically "Do you want to be in Formula 1?", because there really isn't anywhere else for him to go right now.
With that said, he was on a suboptimal strategy but still put his car at the front of the pack on merit. And whilst he needs to find a way to be okay with what his position in the team really is, I would hope that if the driver's and constructor's championships are wrapped up before the end of the season, they take his reigns of and let the pair of them have at it.
I have no doubt that Max is fine with Checo being told to step aside. But they're both racers; and I have to believe that if you take away the need to protect points hauls for the championships (ie they're both decided), Max would want to race Checo properly because it is so much more rewarding than being waved through.
Checo would easily find another team. He could replace Riccardo at McLaren or Zhou in Alfa Romeo or maybe Sainz in a Ferrari. Don’t forget Checo was already in McLaren and he was an Ferrari Academy driver.
Red Bull should be happy to have him if you see how bad Gasly and Albon did.
We know all very well why Riccardo left Red Bull because of the preference for Max.
Don’t forget that Max get the Updates first and than Checo gets them. If he had the same Updates he would be easily faster.
@@peter4223 mclaren already put their money on arguably more successful driver (ric) and it didnt paid off. I doubt they will make same mistake again. Alfa Romeo needs external funding and they already have great driver (bottas) in 2nd seat. Ferrari already has great lineup, no point messing it up.
If it's not redbull for Checo, its retirement
@@peter4223 whatever you say, where were all those teams when Red Bull gave him that lifeline contract? Ricardo is currently under contract until the end of 2023, Sainz until the end of 2024, why would McLaren or Ferrari go to the expense of buying out those contacts (and the likely eye watering penalties that are involved) just to get Checo?
Zhou is probably only contacted until the end of 2022, but with Shanghai contacted until at least 2025, plus the finances behind Zhou, there isn't really a good reason for Alfa to want Checo in that seat instead.
Checo's a really good driver, but he really doesn't have the options you would like to think he has.
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@@peter4223 you are wrong. Sainz has a contract, Mclaren have some drivers lined up, Alfa have Pouchaire in F2. Perez was not that much faster compared to Albon.
WTF: "Carlos is bad for spinning out", also WTF "Oh Max doing the same thing - must have been something to do with the track"
Guessing that was more down to the, hey another car goes off at the exact same spot. Maybe it wasn't the driver then.
In linear time, that seems to be the correct order of things. Non-linear time would be like "Sainz who won next years championship will spin but finish 4th, and as you know Max will then spin on the same place"
@@yoeriw7099 ye sainz looked first like he had just extrem oversteer and lost it while max was drifting and still wasnt slowing down made it really obvious that the wind just pushed him but interesting how nobody else had it that day
This is the 3rd best thing after quali and the gp that I wait for.This podcast completes my race weekend,Love you humans.
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I agree, this caps off my weekend coverage same with Tommo post race chinwags
As a huge sainz fan this race hurt my soul
I love the face Matt pulls when he’s about to impersonate tommy 😂
“😄 Hello Everybody and 😆 WELCOME BACK 😩 TO THE W T F 1 PODCAST‼️” istg this the best intro energy so far 😂😂😂
I love looking forward to these podcasts after looking forward to the race weekend.
Unfortunately, I feel like the only case where Perez can have a point in asking to talk after the race is if there was a prior agreement like "If Max has problems with his car, you're fully allowed to pass him and finish ahead of him."
before this season started ,Ferrari seemed to have arguably the best driver pairing on paper with both drivers in their primes, sainz has made alot of mistakes and can't seem to get into the groove, you can argue this one was not his fault but when you see his previous mistakes such as the DNF in Australia, it gets really hard to argue against the pattern. He might cost Ferrari the constructors tbh
Yes Exactly !
He is simply not fast enough to overtake the Redbulls and he can’t match the pace of Leclerc on qualifying and Race Pace !!
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Hi guys, love the podcast and look forward to it every race week. Just an fyi Ive had 5 YT adds in the first 29 mins which does take way from the enjoyment a bit.
Otherwise keep up the great work.
I got a double unskippable ad not even 2 minutes into the video😣
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IMHO, RB already said their aim for this year is to defend Max WDC title. So...
Valtteri is driving the wheels off that Alfa this year. Also the team fked up his strategy.
In terms of lineup performance I still think Russell Hamilton are the best. Watch Mercedes get a 9th consecutive constructors championship.
Mercedes upgrades have worked very well, I think they might be in contention for pole at Monaco. Lewis has a very good record there and we all know George is Mr saturday so pole is up for grabs.
Monaco is actually one of his weakest tracks.
3 wins, and only 2 in dominant Mercedes cars. One due to a RB pitstop mistake, the other due to Nico being absolutely terrible in the wet.
To compare, Nico managed 3 in a row.
And before people say, “Well, Mercedes were always bad at Monaco.” That’s just wrong. They won 5 of the last 7.
@@theglitch312 The Merc wasn't that dominant around Monaco in 2016. Overall obviously but there's a reason other than Riccardo's brilliance he got that close to the victory he ultimately lost due to that pit stop. The RB was pretty damm good that weekend.
@@scotthenderson1218 Yeah exactly, one out of 2 years (2016, 2018) the Mercedes had basically no chance of winning at Monaco was one where he did win with a lot of luck.
2017 Bottas had a good shot at pole. Barely missed out by less than a 0.05s. Hamilton had trouble finding a clean gap, didn’t even reach Q3.
0.05s to Bottas’ a time Lewis should be able to beat. Same story for 2021, Bottas qualified within 0.03s of the race winner, Hamilton was a full 0.5s away. Likely again trouble finding a good gap.
He won Monaco on pure pace once in 8 attempts at Mercedes while Rosberg managed 3 wins in only 4 attempts and didn’t get 4/4 since he sucks in the rain.
2018 Mercedes was nowhere. 2019, they qualified half an insane 0.5s clear of the RB. At Monaco… With a super short laptime… So Hamilton finally got a second win with Mercedes, but he did have a vastly superior car to do it in.
I’m just trying to say that Hamilton’s track record at Monaco isn’t as stand out as the first commenter claims it is. I think he lost to Rosberg/Bottas in qualifying and/or races more at that track than any other track.
It’s objectively one of his weakest tracks. While Hungary and Silverstone are some of his strongest.
Lewis is terrible at monaco
Everyone so angry about the checko situation but LISTEN TO WHAT WAS SAID, "If Max is faster let him through" Max was faster, why hold him up and risk not getting the 1-2 and potentially binning it. Checko wasn't told to just let him go, people need to listen to the words that are being said
Based on speed alone, checo didn’t deserve this win anyway. He’s a great guy, but he’s not as good as Charles or Max
I think the main problem is that when Checko had younger tires and came up behind Max trying to overtake George (with faulty drs) the team didn’t allow a switch between the two drivers to let checko overtake George (which he would’ve done easily with fresher tires, a quicker car and drs working) rather than holding checko up and letting max have several unsuccessful attempts at overtaking George.
Whereas when checko earlier in the race was behind another driver the team gave him one lap to overtake than ordered him to switch with max.
Do you not see the problem there? Checko was given one chance then told to move out of the way. Then when he was quicker per lap than max the team continually allowed max to make unsuccessful attempts rather than switching.
I think the final switch at the end half of the race was just the last straw that checko had had enough of team orders (3 in one race…)
🤣🤣🤣 reverse the situation and honestly tell us if Max would have received the same message in that situation.
@@syndicategaming1668 LH44 beat Max in the first race of 2021 because he managed to defend perfectly. If Checo was given the opportunity to defend his position he would have won the race. Simple
You guys coming to Montreal for the Canadian GP? by any chance?
Yes matt if you say it every race... Even a broken clock is correct twice a day.
I think this was one of the least egregious examples of team orders ever. Your teammate catches you with a huge pace delta, on a different strategy, with over 15 laps to go? You should let him through. It would be a different situation if the pace difference was less, or the race was closer to the end.
I'm with Katy 100% max made a mistake, and checo had a clean race #blessed
I think max passing checo at the end was inevitable in the way the race turned out, but in the middle of the race when checo asked for max to get out of the way for him to get the full potential of his strategy
Checo shouldn't have been significantly slower then? It's not like they held him up, Max just made up a huge gap in a couple laps. Letting them fight would have achieved nothing but Max winning anyways, AND depriving Checo of the extra point he got from being able to pit for fastest lap. You could definitely argue they should have gotten max into the pits sooner behind george, but there is not a single logical reason anyone can give for them not swapping when they had that many laps left. It was just a no brainer.
They should have let perez go by to attack Russel, thats the fault of rb imo. The last one was reasonable cuz of differences in tyres
I recall George Russell getting warned about overheating in the engine quite early in the race so if he was a bit slower than Hamilton sometimes that is probably it. He was also battling with the Red Bulls so the defense will have slowed him down.
Hamilton was given a message to lift at 200m by lap 5 so overheating was plaguing both cars
Russell was alone much of the race, he just didnt have better pace, while Lewis would have taken Perez had Kmag not rammed him. Russells severe hay fever may have contributed to his slower pace.
@@pflaffik What are you? Some Lewis fan? This is totally false. Russell was ahead of or with the Red Bulls up until the last 20 laps. Lewis never had to race with the front runners so it’s impossible to speculate how he would’ve done without his first lap incident. He probably would’ve gotten stuck behind Russell and had an uneventful race.
Hamilton was lifting but it was the greatest lifting of all time. No driver could have come from so far to almost win like Lewis did.
Daniel has been put on notice by Zak as well properly for the first time after Spain with him saying he hasn't lived up to expectations
he's gone at this rate the first chance they get so they can get one of their young guns in
Gotta feel for DR but c'mon man this the top level of motorsport, there is no forgiveness to be expected. And McLaren has some young blood waiting in the wings.
@@karatekid951 there's already rumours that Aussie Supercars are getting ready to snag him
@@Sem5626 would be a smart move Marketing wise. He'd be a superstar in that series.
You should give Tommy 60 seconds to update everyone for Indycar. Especially with the 500 this weekend
Petition for baby Grace to also get a Leclerc onesie and we get a raceweek ‘spin the wheel’ to see which onesie she should wear, to keep the Drivers Championship battle interesting.
Katy, my fav checo fan
Everybody seems to be suggesting that Red Bull put Checo on the worse strategy on purpose, but they seem to forget that Max was on a 2 stop strategy as well because the seriously thought it would be the fastest. It wasn't until he got stuck behind Russell with his DRS problem that they switched him to a 3 stop strategy.
And in all fairness, the 2 stop strategy could work if managed properly. Not counting his lap 1 tire change Hamilton made it work by looking after his tires and going long. Without the issues in the final laps he would have had the fastest race time of anyone. So yeah, it makes sense for RB to as Checo to be patient and look after his tires after that first pitstop.
The pace is there for Carlos it’s not like he’s qualifying badly or anything. He just needs a string of good results that’ll bring his confidence back
He is absolutely miles off race pace wise. Was outqualified by 4 tenths at catalunya by charles and is 0-6 in quali.
Perez was held back 3 times this race and was put on the worse strategy in the 6th race... and points wise he's still in the mix.
at the end of the day. 1:5 in quali an generally much worse race pace. Perez beating Max is just not gonna happen.
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Because he only had 1 DNF and not 2. Pace wise he isn't.
"If it's a fine, it's fine!" 😂😂 This lady is something else.
I have been waiting all week for this!!!!
Max: 2 DNF , Q3 DRS malfunction ....... NO Fu*ks given
Charles : 1 Dnf ...... Omg so heart breaking ,,,poor Charles. Hypocrisy
And two training sessions lost in Miami. Also DRS malfunction in the race in Spain. He almost didn't have any clean weekends.
Team orders make perfect sense. The WDC is 110 to 104 for verstappen, if checo wins it, it would be 104 to 103 to Leclerc. So they would’ve given up the championship lead.
The championship lead is imaginary until the last race. They're giving up a small chance that without team orders, Max somehow doesn't win, and loses the championship as a result.
@@peterhuston7888 you win the WDC over the whole season. So points lost a te points lost no matter it’s early in the season ou at the end. So they are right doing it, since Checo inst on Max’s pace.
Matt Gallagher’s comment calling Aston Martin ‘The Greenbulls’. Funny. Classic. Haha.
Love you Katy for the savagery. ❤️
And love you Matt and Tommy as well. You guys are not far behind Katy.😀
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In 1999 Ferrari lost the title because of team orders they gave the team order to Michael and lost the title by few points with BC. If they never done that would of won the title that year.
Ultimately if Perez and Max don't end the season within 14 points of each other, this shouldn't really matter. Perez would be the only person on earth who doesn't know he's the number 2 driver if he keeps having digs at his team this season, he does know, surely.
Glad the camera direction was significantly better this week.
Russell outqualifies his teammate, finishes ahead in the race and gets a lower grade because Hamilton looked impressive while recovering from an incident?.... ridiculous.
Not really ridiculous, Lewis was bettering George’s pace on 15 lap old mediums whilst George was on new tyres. Also the collision wasn’t really Lewis’ fault so you can’t blame him for that. If the incident hadn’t of happened between him and KMag I’m certain Lewis would of finished ahead of George and might of even been fighting for P2
@@jakesidwell99 You can’t grade the race on speculation and surely it’s better to have a clean weekend than an incident. I see the incident as a pure racing incident but a clean weekend still deserves a higher score than a recovery.
People seem to forget that last year McLaren switched to Mercedes PU. It was new for Lando also.
Imagine both Max and Leclerc crash in Monako and Perez wins with the fastest lap, taking the championship lead
YOUHOOO SERGIO -- DRIVE FASTER - DRIVE FASTER- DRIVE FASTER- DRIVE FASTER- DRIVE FASTER- DRIVE FASTER- DRIVE FASTER
Not sure if "improve" is the right approach for Sainz.
We know for a fact that he is good, he has been most consistent last season and hardly made any mistakes in 21...
I think he just needs to chill or somehow dissociate from all the pressure and just do his thing. He seems so jittery and on edge all the time and surely that doesnt help towards mistake free driving😁
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HAM passed him too easily, i would assume Sainz' car had minor damage from the gravel.
I hope Checo pulls a Kimi 2007 title turn around. Kinda in the hunt but boom wins it last minute
no way he's allowed
Mercs were drivers of the day,
Ferrari was unlucky drivers of the day.
Red bulls were little bitchs of the day.
Change my mind.
I'm just gonna put this here. I feel some toxicity incoming..😅
@@realMaverickBuckley I'm waiting too, but it's so clear cut I don't think the haters and fan boys will show.
I agree but unfortunately Sainz is very rubbish and can’t win races on pure pace because considering he potentially had the fastest car this week but he flopped as usual so I think Ferrari must start considering their options to replace him
@@danyb97 I think Matt summed up the problem, it's snowballing, he is trying to push to make up for previous mistakes causing more and more mistakes. I think it's too soon to start thinking about replacement as the wind did mess him up,
That being said he has got to start relaxing behind the wheel otherwise yh he will be out of there.
I don't care about team orders but i find it hypocritical cause max didn't give place to Perez when battling George even though max didn't have drs and checo was clearly faster
I wonder what’s gonna happen between Hamilton and FIA in 3 days
Pliers
We all know that Latifi's days are numbered in F1, but really do you have to look so pained to give him some props when he has a decent race?
Best Podcast online regarding FI by a country mile .
7:50 "I think we've covered that already" Rehashes it again verbatim just a few seconds later.
Russel was slower because of a different setup they tried. wolf said so after. Great podcast guys!
I come back to this podcast every time Checo does well this season.
Feels like people are forgetting that Max was 1 second a lap quicker than Perez anyways. Even without drs and Checo defending it would probably been a somewhat easy pass
Cuz RB gave him the strat to go faster by putting more often
at some point Matt's "welcome to the W T F 1 Podcast" will take longer than the podcast itself
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I really liked this. Sounds like a group of friends discussing something they all love. A vibe.
Hot take, Bottas will have faster pit stop than last year.
Was there no Team WTF1 live podcast this week??
perez just needs to negotiate better , every time he has to give up a p1 for max he needs to get the p1 bonus aswell , makes it allot more bearable
One point about DRS - Whilst Im not a massive fan, I have come to accept and indeed appreciate it. People wanting to get rid (sorry Pete Windsor) are harping back to a past era with "angry old men" energy.
BUT - If DRS is too powerful on a weekend, move the DRS ACTIVATION zone 50/whatever yards up the road... if its not powerful enough, bring it closer to detection by 50/whatever yards. DRS then becomes dynamic for all cars and provides a way to fine tune it to get closer to the goldilocks target.
You can even do it at half race point...add another variable to confound strategists...
How much is 50 yards in non retarded units?
@@philhellmuth2771 around 200 EU bananas
@@rick-potts thanks, as a non-eu citizen this really helps
@@philhellmuth2771 ah, well without knowing your nationality I cannot provide context. About 20 fridge freezers? Does that help?
@@rick-pottssorry for not giving you the context. The metric system definitely needs the context of nationality.
I am swiss so you might want to use cheese, chocolate or stolen Jewish gold bars as a measurement
Meanwhile Alpine in KSA: grabs popcorn and enjoys the show
Can we get time stamps?
Yeahh, on the drone shots, maybe they were trying what they did in testing, which look good and epic, but it didn´t work --+needs polishing.
And, Hamilton, he was destroying that engine. Ironic. Those black and white flags don´t give out on their own.
Good race, great episode!
The moment Sergio Repaz start driving f a s t e r than Verstappen, beating him on track race after race, collecting more points and wins, he will have preference... until then.... he has to settle for second fiddle.
Even if he is faster from now on they’ll still do team orders
@@ItsTheMaddMark4Realz nah but checo doesnt prove that he has speed just look at quali 2 runs and max still beat him lol thats not good enough
@@ehrlichgesagt863 Sainz and Perez both. Max gets one run at the start of Q3, gets a comfortable P2 in a car that didn’t look fast enough for pole anyways, Leclerc fucks his first run and nabs pole by well over 3 tenths.
Meanwhile, their teammates with 2 runs are still comfortably behind them. That’s why Leclerc and Max will get preferential treatment.
@@ItsTheMaddMark4Realz When have they ever given Checo team orders when he was faster? When? Find literally one instance.
@@Jimbo7 i dont see it too max was still around Checo after losing 10-15 sec thats just talent
*Checo/Max - The team orders thing leaves a biter taste, but 100% the right thing for RB to do.
*Checo/Max - No way Checo doesnt know his place @ RBR. But Max is a significant step better and more likely.
*Sainz/Le Clerc - fastest pairing on paper - but probably most "emotionally" vulnerable on the grid.
*Hamilton/Russell - not so much good luck for George, but bad luck for Hamilton
*Hamilton/Russell - Russell has always had good one lap pace - Lewis' issue is that he has to beat him on Saturday.
*Ham/KMag - race incident and done with. Remember when we used to have those without all the blaming/flaming?
Note to KMAG or anyone overtaking on lap 1..."you cant win a GP on lap 1 - you can only lose one"
Note to KMAG or anyone overtaking on the outside of a corner... you do so at your own risk.
*These 2 together - better risk assessment. Kmag had softs, Lewis tyres would be 2 or 3 laps to get up. Patience and pick a better spot!
On the question of team orders at Red Bull... Does this mean that to win the drivers title, Mercedes needs to give team orders to Hamilton when Russell is behind him just because there is a gap between the points they've scored?
No. Because Russell has not been quicker than Lewis this year. They've had equal speed (if anything Lewis has been quicker in races), but Lewis has had worse luck. Max has been generally faster than Perez.
They don’t need to worry about team orders as long as they’re this far off from competing for the WDC.
Until they start winning multiple races in a row on merit they won’t be thinking about issues like team orders.
Im a Mercedes fan, obviously like Lewis, but George's driving, consistency, little or no mistakes and ability to defend, attack and car placement is really really good...a little overlooked too
Matt calling out the chainsaw literally as I got my chainsaw out in Super Animal Royale.
What a weird, weird moment.
Maybe if Checo hasn’t been dominated virtually his entire existence as Verstappens teammate it wouldn’t be a problem. It’s clear who the number 1 is, Verstappen is a level above everyone on the grid never mind his own teammate who has beaten by him in Quali as a teammate 26/28 times.
Checo knew he will be number2 when he took the job. All he can do is be faster than Verstappen which i dont see happening.
I disagree with that view.
Checo had to let Max through after he spun, wasn't allowed to overtake Max when he approached him with fresher tires and had to let him through again for the win.
And he got put onto the worse strategy despite having his first pit stop way later than Max.
And most important, he was a lot slower than Max.
@@pflaffik that’s because of the strategy my guy. Even tho max lost it in that corner they still provided him with the better strat even tho he was behind Checo
Justifying ham over saying that he wanted to retire with that fuels him is insane guys insane. It's like ham is justified for everything he does. If that were any other driver you would have destroyed him.
Do you think if he was in Renault he and got the max and lando support do you guys think he would won something with them
i feel like they’re ignoring that checo also had car issues. he dnfed 1 time, and his engine issues in miami prevented him from challenging for P3/2
Charles had the race in control, even before Max made the mistake he was pulling away from max with the soft tyres. According to Perez has been poor in qualification but very strong in race pace probably stronger than max. Sainz should prepare more in his race setups cause he has been terrible in that aspects. When you are in a big team that main goal is to win the championship he has to deliver, and stop making excuses.
Are you saying that Checo has had better race pace than Max? I'm not sure I'm reading your comment correctly
@@Jimbo7 Of course man the only difference is that Perez cannt attack Max, Cause of team orders. This year we can see that the car suits his style and he is very confident.
Katy acts like max was a long time behind russel when checo wanted the position swap. But it was 2 laps or something
It was definitely more than 2 laps
@@10parth10 it was around lap 26 when he asked for the position swap. Max pitted on lap 28. And it wasn't that perez was within a second of max when he asked.
Matt you need to get a Ferrari onesie before this weekend, if that won’t break the Monaco curse I dont know what will.
17:55 ferrari fixed their setup and charles was doing faster lap than max and george while being on a older soft
also merc arent there at all as mattia said and charles' pace prpved thier were around 7 tenth slower per lap and base on amus ferrari have much more budget compare to rb and merc so stop saying "ferrari will fall behind" the first upgrade package and they got their pace advantage back
Has anyone consider the fact that Lando might just be an EXTREMELY good driver? Maybe Danny Ric isn't washed?
Does this make George an extra EXTREMELY good driver since he beat him in F2?
(Just joking around, had to for how you put the word in caps) 😆
@@erin6379 lol just tryna gain some extra rep for my boy lando out here