Death Note but you can't hear the internal monologues.
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- Light Yagami must look weird as hell to the people around him lmao.
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POV: You are Ryuk
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"Ningen wa omoshiroi"
😭
😶🤔 light? It's not rocket science... Yknow i should stay quiet..
this is like when the npc aready finished talking and is waiting for you to choose the next dialogue option
thats accurate asf
Fallout 4
And then they start bobbing thier head
@@mrwhiteboy1350 L starts scratching his feet
Yea L looks dumb af here lol
It's actually quite calming to watch them just normally interact
That's what other people see but in between the 2 of them it's a constant battle to see who slips up heavily first and constantly trying to give each other a hard time
@@UnkownUnkown01 I wonder how it would look like if you watched it the first time with all internal monologues cut. Would you still get the tension given they always act so calm on the outside but you still see what both sides do
@@tomlxyzI’ve never seen Death Note before this clip. From this clip they sound like friends taking an IQ test. Only thing that makes me think there’s something going on is how curt the curled up guy talks. Makes it sound like he knows something the other doesn’t, but this could be chalked up to him being the straight man in the duo. I agree this does seem really calming, funny knowing how crazy the show is supposed to be
@@SporkEnthusiastthat is more or less a proper assessment of this situation while have it being accurate to its lore..Idr all of or even a lot of details of D note but I’d rewatch a monolouge’less version lol
Agreed, it's weirdly soothing when you don't see the constant inner turmoil.
I want the entire show to be like this, would honestly be hilarious
pretty sure there would be entire episodes completely silent
@@Felipera_mostly silent episodes would be interesting
A 10min scene of him eating those potato chips 😂
I would really wonder how someone who's never seen the show would interpret everything that's going on, would it be even remotely possible to keep up
another really interesting thing would be, if someone cut out everything that L wasn't there to witness, so we would basically get the show exclusively from L's perspective
Wtf did you do to Brock😭
I want to watch the whole show like this, from L's perspective. Then we could see how innocent Light came off as.
A version with only L's thoughts, a version with only Lights thoughts, and a version with neither. Those would be amazing to watch.
@@nef36 you're on to something
That sounds like it would ve so cool. XD
Well L ain't no good person as well
@@agilraj1145It's been so long I can't remember if that's so
L : You can take as long as you want to look them over
Light : And I took that personally
Dr. K: Can I think for a second?
@@cleverman383 Ah (clever) man of culture I see
Well canonically doesn't time pause when they go over their thoughts?
@@wile123456 I'd rather think not, those pauses seem reasonable for any human trying really hard to solve a riddle on his own.
@@jellymatsuryuka6853 yea I guess it's just the lack of animation making it suss. If he said "hmm" and shuffled the papers around and such it would be more convincing
It’s a bit amazing seeing how fast their deductive skills are in real time
Especially Light who is basically just a college student compared to a guy that has been working since he was 8
@@gamerstheater1187fr L just has more experience, Light is actually more intelligent if they started off with the same level
@@amnakhan2975no light kept making dumb mistakes like this over and over again
@@danielprince2548 I mean Light actually figured out What L was thinking several times lmao
@@BasicallynoOneAtAll L never actually figured out that light but had a strong doubt lmao...Even we heard it in his ep 9 monologue. The fact L cannot catch light shows more enough that light is good
Its interesting, the internal monologues sort of normalize Light to the viewer, and make the battle of wits feel much more even. When you remove the connection to Light and see him objectively like this though, it makes him seem far more suspicious and less proficient. L really was running circles around him.
Tbh like this the cat and mouse game becomes even clearer. L was running circles around him but Light still said stuff like at the end of the clip abt making Kira say something only he could know, cuz he knows L can’t know about the death note
Inner monologues arguably made it even worse. Light is so confident and knows what to say. Then L just beats him at it like a child. In this scene L was the one who had Light in his grasp. If he was willing to risk, he could capture him and Misa right now. He didn't know who is the second Kira, but a wild guess would prove correct when the killings would stop and never continue. L could even guess that Light keeps the note in a special place which would destroy it if you don't know how to operate the lock. And find a way to retrieve it carefully. Then everything would be over.
@@user-zj4zz4un5z That's a lot of wild guessing to do.
@@user-zj4zz4un5z Could L really guess about the exploding drawer thing...? I guess stranger things _have_ happened.
They're so polite, allowing eachother to gather their thoughts before speaking
No rushing for response whatsoever
ikr its the way i wish people would behave themselves irl around me.
like whats the rush.
why cant people enjoy silence, and save all their rambling for text. in text it wont go nowhere. its eternalized. its noiseless. you can read or not read it at liesure.
but speaking is noise
it is a thought interrupter
if you have too much outer dialogue, you have little internal dialogue. vice versa. But having internal dialogue means you can think, and would be better at planning, and these 2 guys are smart n trying to play mental chess
so in this situation they have to play smart, and speak this way because they have to.
But honestly its a polite way to converse in general.
People should be allowed time to meditate so that they can keep the unutterable unuttered, unexplainable unexplained, save you the bullshit and only vocalize the key point without an "uh" or stutter. Some people repeat themselves and say the same thing in 3 different ways over the course of a minute because they are using outer dialogue to simulate the main point in the same way inner dialogue could've simulated it. If they are outer only, it seems they are making noise because they legitimately are addicted to hearing their own voice. They end up in a loop where they are stuck on a thought because it keeps being externally casted instead of being left in the mental oven to develop and finish cooking, but they don't want the thought to cook because it means they no longer have whitenoise in their surrounding air.
Its amazing to me how I can spend six hours with someone in person
and they will speak a gillion words a minute, and by the end of the night , I realized there is not a damn thing that person said of substance.
in contrast
someone can only speak a phrase to me at a certain point in time. When it becomes relevant again, I remember it up to 20 years later like they had just got done saying it.
It takes more time to speak and listen to others speak than it does to type and read. Little known fact.
So why spend hours talking about nothing? When you could type SOMETHING?
Making sounds with your mouth just for the sake of it isn't human communication.
It is reasons like this I hate hanging out with a large crowd of friends. All of us could be intelligent in our own ways and interesting well spoken people. Put each other in a group and all we can seem to talk about is the same inane drivel we could've talked about with any other crowd and the entire night is just pointless jibber jabber smalltalk and "iknoooowwwriiiiiiite?!?!" And giggling at things that weren't funny because the Big Bang Theory Laugh Track has wormed it's way into unconscious behavioral patterns deep within our NPC code; laughing at our own jokes to hint at others a sense of "that was a punchline btw"
@@fluffypinkpandas damn you are cool.
@@fluffypinkpandas i’ve always said this and believed it. you described it very good. you are intelligient
@@fluffypinkpandas On one hand, I too wish people would shut up and let me think.
On the other, damn bro you just typed a whole essay. Did the text version of what you hate.
@@littlemoth4956 "and save all their rambling for text. in text it wont go nowhere. its eternalized. its noiseless. you can read or not read it at liesure" i do still think that person is corny though
The anime equivalent of sitcoms without the laugh track.
BAZINGA!
@@smokeweebs8700 bazinga
@@plutonash2545 bazinga
@@lilttiger bazinga
@NobodySuspiciousHere bazinga
The silence at 1:53 and then Light just looking up and staring daggers at L is way too funny without the internal monologue😂
Is the Best fuck You stare, it makes Light look like a dumb teen, is interesting how not being able to listen how he explains his actions how Bad he actually is to hide his emotions
"Well i never! >:["
@@DoctorFailhonestly lmao he looks like he is offended more than he looks mad
He looked like "Damn, why didn't you give me all the letters in the first place then?"
he kinda looks like when peppa pig gets annoyed 🤷♂️
L: Actually youre wrong
Light: 😡
This scene actually feels smarter without the internal dialogue.
Works for most anime. Most inner monologues in anime kinda treat their audience like children by giving throughout explanation. Without it there's more space for the audience to come up with theories and explanations
@randomassjellyfish well granted Shonen jump target audience is middle schoolers and early high schoolers that makes sense.
@@randomassjellyfish
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@@randomassjellyfishbut they need to get the point across to move the plot. If the entire show made the audience make their own theories, the show would fall.
I don't think the whole show would work without internal dialogue. Some of the resolutions Light and L come up with would make 99% of the audience be extremely confused, people would need to pause and figure it out.
I genuinely never realised the frames were so still. The act of just having audio really changes how I take in shows wow.
If you watch other anime, you’ll notice the same thing. Your eyes will be drawn to the character talking so you don’t notice how still the rest of the frame is.
He cut out a lot of stuff and froze on these frames since they relate to his inner monologue. Watch the actual episode, its cut completely different
Imagine watching One Piece without the music
Subtitles fill a lot of our attention although this version is dub.
You should watch NGE and their 30-60" scenes with one frame...
This scene is so smart is holds up completely even without the monologues. Obviously, it would be terrible writing to have your characters sitting there reading in silence, but it's 100% true to life. The only issue is Light's eyes not moving at all.
True, but when you think about the eyes it could just as well fit with the context of the scene; Light already knows what the notes say, and part of his loss to L's trick is that he responds as if he does
@@SAIMONch The animators could have at least made him blink or shuffle the 3 papers around while he was reading. Tiny bits of animation can add a lot and not make it look like a still painting.
@@SAIMONch Reading that I could just hear L's voice in my head, calmly observing, "Hmmm, I notice your eyes are not moving, as if you already know what the notes say..."
animes are basicallty paintings lol@@SebastienGendron-uk4po
I don't think it would be terrible writing tbh. That scene is tense and really interesting
"erm actually 🤓☝️my deduct-"
"Nuh uh"
Bro looks so insanely guilty no wonder L knew lmao
Hahaha fr but in the anime world time just slows down when you’re in an inner monologue.
I have this overwhelming urge to rewatch death note
@@falsedamage I get that like every month. Not enough shows about two dudes trying to outplay each other
@@SkittlesInYourHand My friend told me the live action is really good tho so I might try it
@@falsedamage the live action is garbage
This makes it feel like a Telltale game and Light is taking his time choosing the options
I wish there were more telltale games so much potential
@@mehgamermehgamer6746 too bad they went bankrupt
@@therabbit555 And they resurrected didnt you knew?
......
Shepard: I should go
@@therabbit555 They're backk
“I would try to get him to say something in public only Kira would know”
Wow, Light! All that brainpower and you can’t even see that is exactly what was done in this scene!
Had he been smarter he would have faked a double take afta a moment
Frfr dude was just way too full of himself here
@@cunningsmile4166 honestly yeah he couldve totally recovered if he just played it off as a "man now i feel dumb i shouldve asked if there were anymore notes" or something like that
L brought rope for Light and cut just enough so Light could hang himself with it
@@BitrateBillyYeah, honestly it does say a lot about Light how he would much rather incriminate himself than swallow his pride for a moment. Which to be fair, is perfectly expected of a guy who thinks he's a God
A simple explanation that doesn’t make it more complicated than it is:
Essentially… Only three notes were left by Kira, and only Kira himself, the police, and L know that, no-one else should know for-certain how many notes Kira left. So, anyone else would see the three-notes and realize that, when placed in numerical-order, the message is incomplete, so they’d probably ask if there was a fourth-note. However, since Light IS Kira, he knows there are only three-notes and that they aren’t intended to be read in numerical-order. So instead of asking if there are more-notes he says, “The numerical-order doesn’t make sense, Kira must’ve made a mistake and you have to read them out of order to get the message.” (Solving the message of the three-notes, while using reasoning to not seem suspicious). However, L pulls out a fourth-note. This is actually a fake-note, but if Light were innocent he wouldn’t know that. The fourth-note, when placed in numerical-order with the others, finishes the message. L then goes, “If you weren’t Kira, you would’ve asked if there was a fourth-note to finish the sentence. However, you seemed certain that there were only three-notes, and that the sentence HAD to make sense using only those three-notes. Only Kira, the police, and I know there are only three-notes, so you must be Kira.”
This is what people who think that this test is dumb is missing. L tells Light that these notes were written by criminals under the control of Kira which could imply that these are the only notes they got SO FAR. Meaning, they could potentially get more.
Honestly, the smart move for Light would be to ask what the numbers mean or where they are from since L did say they were photographed. It's pretty important since it could indicate the order Kira wanted the notes to be read in or what the police thinks the correct order should be. This could also provide a better reason/excuse as to why Light disregarded the numerical order version.
@@natperXD The main point is that Light fucked up. He slipped because it's REALLY hard to think not using all knowledge at your disposal. To make matters worse, Light is really childish and likes to win, so when L blatantly "cheats" on his face, he gets mad and defensive.
@@natperXD Light could have also just asked "are these all of them?" "So these are all the notes?" Instead of assuming L wouldn't make a fake note.
I disagree. When I get something from a colleague or whomever, I try to make sense of what's in front of me. Considering a possible missing message doesn't always cross my mind. So, to me, the fact that Light doesn't consider more messages is proof of nothing.
@@moneymo6417 yes, but Light from the outside does not even consider the possibility and he is not a just normal person like us who just do a puzzle or something like that, I think a skill detective will at least think about that possibility, and L say that he made this test with other detectives so probably has a even more perspectives
as someone who hasn't watched the show, this is incredibly funny to me
two guys look at each other, one reads some letters, and then goes "hey there's a secret message!" and other one goes "L bozo, there was an extra letter i didn't tell you about get owned"
that’s basically the show anyway
Never watched this show either aha
It's a great show with a questionable ending. I wish i could watch it again for the first time.
That's giving me "Updated autopsy report (Ace attorney Edgeworth)" energy lmao
Is it just me being a dumbass or did OP get L and Light's names mixed up?
Without the internal monologue, Light sounds like he's been caught -- it's almost like a Columbo scene, where the detective very clearly *knows* he's interacting with the killer.
No. Not it doesn't. L is reaching so far in this scene he's touching the stratosphere. "Why didn't you assume there was a fourth picture after I told you to make sense of three pictures?" is, as someone above said, a complete lack of social intelligence to the point it makes L look like a dumbass.
@@windrose5988 The "red hands" bit reads like a direct implication L *knows* Light's playing games. He told Light there were letters, not how many, and implied it wasn't a full list, but Light immediately assembled a message that assumed the opposite. Who else but Kira could build *exactly* the correct message on their first try from incomplete information?
@@SlayerEndX13 Kira music plays
Also, what is a Columbo scene?
@@robologo Columbo is a detective show structured around the audience knowing who the murderer is and the detective, a shabby, socially awkward man with a glass eye, figures out how they did the murder. Usually, he does this by revealing a small piece of evidence, like some gum, or a bit of dust, or a small piece of hair. In this case, L's small piece of evidence was Light's assumption there were only three notes -- unlike in Columbo, however, L recognizes his evidence might not stand up in court. He admits there must be *zero* doubt if he nails Kira or his target gets off the hook.
tasteful Columbo enjoyer
There’s something so interesting about the subtlety of the conversation without the monologue though. L producing the fourth letter really is a good catch. If Light was intuitive enough to figure out what the letters mean you’d think he’d at least ask if there was more, him dodging it completely is more indicative of him playing into an answer than actually considering anything.
When You say it like that it makes a Lot of sense, I've always thought that this was so L could catch Light being anoyed at the fact of having a famous detective saying he was wrong, but now I can see that it can be mixed with L checking if he was gonna get to the conclusión that fast
Not to disparage your argument but your statement of “if Light was intuitive enough to figure out what the letters mean” is flawed. Light was the one who made them write the letters so he is the one who truly understands the meaning.
The reason he didn’t ask for more was because he himself knew that there wasn’t more which was entirely the point of L’s trap in this scene, because only Kira himself would know for certain that there were only 3 notes
@@villagersupremacy5594and also mainly cos the sentence was incomplete the order in which that L put them forward. Instead of asking “are you sure there weren’t anymore photos?” He assumes they were the only ones and decides to correct the sentence using the photos. Only Kira knows the original sentence regardless of what order L showed it to him. Kira being Light, he slipped up and showed the correct way.
@@w2174 exactly
But since Light wrote the letters he'd intended there to be 3; why would a normal person think there would be 4? 😭
This is why I'm surprised the live action Death Note didn't work. With the right cinematography they can make tense scenes like this work, even without the internal monologue.
There were some Japanese live action ones- including a movie that didn’t actually feature the Death Note??? I think it involved a flood somehow. L: Save The World or something like that
@@runeanonymous9760 I've actually watched some of the japanese live actions recently and they do exactly what I said in my comment. They reduce the amount of internal monologues but the cinematography is solid enough to make the scenes still feel tense.
I didn't watch L Save the World. I was told it wasn't very good and honestly I really like the ending of the 2nd film, I don't want that ruined.
@@MADKapo It's ok, it doesn't mess with the ending of the second film.
Spoiler warning for the second film....
In the film there is a gap of several days between the time Light dies and the time L is scheduled to die by the Death Note. L Saves the World shows what happens during those days, with L behaving exactly in character by calmly going back to work solving cases until his time runs out. The plot of the movie is the big case he's given during that time. I can understand why some people wouldn't like it as much as Death Note, because both L and Light are both more interesting when each is playing off the other. Judging it on it's own terms without comparing it to its predecessor, I'd say it's fine for what it is.
I like how without the intense inner psychopath dialogue they both look like genius but socially awkward college kids. Seriously, Light sounds and looks just like some harmless good kid talking over coffee. That is, until L calls him out on the fourth note thing and his eyes narrow and the scene feels a lot colder for a split second, then from L's perspective it becomes a lot more feasible that this is definitely the psycho murderer they're looking for.
Like others have said, a remake from L's perspective would be a lot of fun to watch.
Honestly that part of the scene didn't give me psycho vibes at all lol.
It's just like he's going "Is this guy fucking serious??? OOoohhHhh AcTuAlLy ThErE aRe 4 LeTtErS~ Give me all 4 letters from the start then asshole!" in his head.
But he's too polite/repressed to actually say it so he just let's L "win" this one.
(Like I know he's actually Kira and was doing an evil monologue, but just from this? Nah he just seems sick of this weirdo playing mindgames.)
I mean even if I am not Kira and suddenly someone asks me about something like this, gives a pretty good answer hoping to impress them with my negligible deductive skills, then they just said "there's actually a 4th letter", I'll definitely be dissatisfied myself lmao.
there's a short novel called LA BB Murder Case, or something like that, you should give that a read
@@sixjhontongalamar979 It mostly doesn't work the same in english, they needed to use a different sentence example. With the Japanese, it should have been reasonable to look at the numbers on the back, say that then the sentence doesn't make sense and therefore there might be another card that makes it make sense
@@decus478 but it makes sense after rearranging the letters no? If it works within the given clues, would everyone really assume that there's a fourth clue?
As I've said, negligible deductive skills. Don't push my brain too hard xD
The silence and eye narrowing when Light realizes L caught him in a mistake somehow works even better without the monologue. Even without words, you can tell exactly what he's thinking.
yeah...
"fuuuuuuuuuuuck!"
Yeah it adds subtlety
No, I can't tell.
@@angelsadventure4996 You probably are young, give it some years and It will be blatantly obvious, my case atleast
The music got me
This scene is amazing, the subtext of the false note essentially saying that he just caught Kira red handed, is just brilliant.
Also you can see the last note had more recent ink
@@geminix365 Good catch, I totally missed that
Hell yeah
L: "You can take as long as you want..."
Light: "I WILL TAKE YOU UP ON THAT OFFER".
I'll never forget the moment I realized that L basically said he caught Light red handed in this scene. It was an amazing subtlety.
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How does this scene “catch” light?
@@Chiara-ep5er he responded with full confidence to the correct thing that Kira did, and his off guard reaction was consistent with being exposed and indignant that L "ruined Kira's masterpiece".
@@Chiara-ep5er I believe the fourth letter was fake, and Kira did not consider it because he didn't write it.
L produces it to show, how can you be so sure there are only 3 letters? Because he have only written 3 at that moment.
wow, good catch
This scene actually got really tense. It's up to you to interpret what they're thinking woah
No. It’s up to us to interpret what they’re thinking woah
Making out on the spot?
@@MrEquusQuagga no its up to me
@@TheFernandinho I'd like to think it's up to God, _whomst_ gave his only begotten son so you could live without sin.
Shout out to Jesus Christ everybody! 👏🏾 👏🏾
@@daviclemons6910may Allah guide you
2:25 imagine light looking silently at you like that for 10 seconds. Looks relly suspicious for me
Kira sounds like a genius with the internal monologue but without it it sounds like he’s going “well I have a suspiciously detailed explanation of this evidence of who could Kira be”
1:55 from the stare to the look of anger when L says he’s wrong is too funny to me
Fr he was like 'bro'😕
@@meriewandererbro 😂
He fr said “Boy wtf that ain’t how this works”
This makes me realize that hearing Kira's inner monoluges was a way of inducing the audience with his delusions, making it seem like he could swine his way out, when in fact, they were never believable.
This is like us seeing L's point of view. :>
It makes sense, L's genius wasn't deducing that Light was the one, it was proving it..
@@Runeite51 well he didn't prove it.. so was that really "his genius"? L immediately knew it was light, but was unable to prove it, whereas near was able to trap him but might not have been able to deduce that light was the one without L's work
@@kiiturii Near? STFU. Don't act like that season of the show is real. The show ended after L lost. L for losing. Get that trash tier writing out a hear.
@@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286 unable to tell the difference between "here" and "hear", and "of" and "a" while criticizing the writing of a masterpiece tier show
@@kiiturii
>desu note
>masterpiece writing
My sides
The moment Light insists that his deduction was “perfect” with the three photos he was given further solidifies how much Light matches L’s profile of Kira; “childish and hates losing”, just like L himself. At this point, L was actually completely certain that Light was Kira, but objectively speaking, only had 7% of the evidence he needed to make that call.
Jeez, without the monologue, my head is clearer and I can see why L knew who Kira was
Light: It's a good thing I can think 4 times faster than the average adult, this gives me plenty of time to properly analyze the situation without raising suspicion.
L: I've never been forced to make direct eye contact with someone this long. Please Kira, end my suffering.
poor L
L is my AuDHD spirit animal
@@madeliner1682 L is awesome but i would never let a dude with this posture be my spirit animal
@@zetasann spirit ANIMAL
@@zetasann lmfao
This edit is so fascinating. Light's instability is obvious to anyone who can hear him but he plays it perfectly straight in his interactions with others....or so we're conditioned to think. He really does look hella guilty in this light (Pun unintended).
He really looked like a criminal but not in an obvious way. It's in the subtle way his face changes responding to situations. His almost annoyed or dismissive staring even when from Ls perspective he's done nothing to annoy him.
Its so true, in the anime it always seemed like you needed to be as smart as L to notice, but even a child could gasp his fakes and weird reactions
hmm
@@OnePieceSS23 But that's mostly because they need to show him with some reaction, after all it's a show and they need dramatic scenes. If Light existed IRL and were as smart and cunning as he's supposed to be in the anime/manga, he probably wouldn't react at all, but that would be boring for an anime, as the point of these scenes is precisely to show the internal monologue and what's going on in the characters' heads. The creators show that through expressions and reactions and they are supposed to be exaggerated.
i don't see it he just looks normal he only looks guilty cause you know hes guilty
Holy shit this helps a lot to understand the scene actually. L stressing over the fact that why didn't Light ask whether there is any more notes, but instead assuming there are ONLY three notes /is/ his trap, not the fact that he could arrange the message in a certain way. Never noticed it before, brilliant.
Also the little dig about being caught 'red handed'.
So he’s using psychology smart except even he knew no conclusive answer or proof even though suspicious they both won’t give info not available but he’s seeing how he interacts
I think the scene already explains this reasoning well, and I had no problem with it, but yeah, it becomes more obvious like this
It probably helped raise his suspicion levels, but they were already about as high as they could be without having concrete evidence. And Light's reasoning did in fact make sense. L is really just feeling Light out. There's no trap, that would imply that this interaction proves anything.
Light was just intensely FUMING. L was EATING good lmao
The most suspicious thing is the fact he doesn't express surprise or revulsion at what he's looking at or ask L any questions about them. The way he says they're "interesting" makes him seem way too familiar with them, the fact he "deduced" the exact scenario Kira faced L with almost instantly is just a huge nail in Lights coffin.
I don't think so. To me, this was a test within a test. On the surface, L is testing Light's deductive reasoning. After all, being interested in becoming a detective as a gifted, brilliant highschool student makes his interest and lack of revulsion seem fine.
The real test though, to L, is figuring out if Light's personality and ego match that of what he's deduced Kira's to be. That's why he tells Light that he got the question wrong. If Light is Kira, or if he really is just a gifted student, he figures out the puzzle correctly. Fine. But if he reacts defensively (my deduction was perfect), especially under the immense pressure of "revealing something only Kira could know," his personality and ego match that of Kira's. Light isn't dumb, he sees this coming and concedes the test appropriately. But his first instinct, the one L is looking for, is to get defensive.
He can't hang Light with this. As he points out later in the same conversation, Light's odds of being Kira to L only go up a couple of points here. But if you're L, faced with a killing power unlike anything seen in human history that allows for total anonymity*, this is a MAJOR win in his book.
@@LonnyH that’s good! i didn’t think about that!! it’s a personality not a logical test
@@LonnyH Also Light is normally smart enough to at least ask about whether a missing piece could exist, him never even considering it a possibility is too much of a "normie" mistake to make (just taking the information as presented without sensing a trick). At best, Light isn't as smart as he seemed, and at worst, he knew there weren't any more letters because he wrote them.
@@LonnyH The actual test was that Kira actually wrote those first 3 messages. The fourth one is fake. At this point L knew Kira's personality very well, so he made a trap for Light.
He gave Light notes numbered 1 to 3. If Light had no previous knowledge of those notes, the first thing he would be expected to try is to order them 1 to 3. That would leave an incomplete message. If he ordered them correctly, however, he would get a sentence that makes sense. As such, if Light had no previous knowledge, his best possible answer would be "These messages are encoded, if you arrange them by what makes sense, it reads as follows, but if you order them by the numbers on the back the message seems incomplete. Either these numbers were another misdirection, or they have another meaning, or there is a fourth message that wasn't found".
But, Light is Kira so he KNOWS there is no fourth message. Thus, he makes the careless mistake of taking that knowledge only Kira should have into account. Because he knows he only wrote 3, there is no possible fourth message. The only correct order is the one that makes gramatical sense, and the numbers were a misdirection made by L. But that's a conclusion only Kira could reach, no other sane person who could figure out that much would make such a wild assumption at the expense of clear evidence.
To add salt to injury, Light argues back. He feels cheated because he knows there is no fourth message, and his childish side doesn't accept "losing" that little game in such an unfair way.
Of course, Light manages to slip out of this situation, and none of it was sufficient conclusive evidence that Light was Kira. Even if absolutely small, there was the chance that Light simply made a mistake and believed that L gave him all the information, and then was angry to fail. it's not as if only Kira and L are childish. But it does help to justify L's belief and his later actions.
It is pretty odd that he doesnt act surprised seeing random heart attack victims all writing messages that can be read in a way that seems intentional
Light's expression at 1:59 after being told there were 4 instead of 3 is perfect to show his dissatisfaction for L's deceit lol
Whole lotta "listen here you little shit" vibes going on
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I'M CRYING LMAOOO
HE'S THAT ONE MEME WITH THE BALD MAN WHO STANDS THERE WITH HIS KNUCKLES ON HIS HIPS, STARING AT LIKE 😐😐😐
That was my absolute favorite moment in this video. *He's so upset* and we just get to stare at that
@@scan_dinav THAT'S IT I KNEW IT LOOKED FAMILIAR
this has the same energy as big bang theory without laugh tracks
The silence makes me feel like this is a telltale game and I’m struggling to pick the right option
Now we can experience this conversation as if we're eavesdropping from a few tables away
2:23 I love how there's an inner monologue going but to L he's just giving him the Sigma stare
Which is worse:
❌ 10 seconds with your hand on a frying pan
❌ 10 seconds in a rodeo
✅ 10 seconds talking to Yagami💀
Alternate title: Death Note in third person
Now I want to see what the whole show is like without internal monologues for a good 20 something episodes but not really anything over 30
Me too, that would be hilarious
Without the internal monologues the show would probably be 25% shorter at least lol
Just bunch of awkwarf silences
@@RahulSharma-ot3wo Just like real life!
Ryuk's laugh has to stay though. Oddly enough it's even more fitting for him instead of just laying on the bed like a deadbeat roommate.
I thought this would be funny but now its just solidifying Light as a psychopath..
Why ? You needed more proof?
What's your opinion of sitcoms without laugh tracks? I saw people do this for friends and the big bang theory.
@@outofahat9363 What's your opinion of sitcoms without laugh tracks? I saw people do this for friends and the big bang theory.
Well... Yeah, but he's a cool psychopath.
Turns out L is really not as good as the anime makes him out to be.
"You can take as long as you want to look them over"
"Very interesting".
*LONG UNCOMFORTABLE SILENCE*
The way he just pauses to stare at L is hilarious
1:58 Light with that pouty face be like "I can't believe you've done this"
He looks genuinely frustrated with him too
And he breaks up with him.
This scene is actually genius. If L had continued, Light would've been caught right there. He presents 3 photos trying to see if Light slips and tells something the public couldn't know. Light is well aware of that so he tries to play safe. The genius is that L is aware that Light, if Kira, is well aware of L's perceived attempt, and moves accordingly through the scene.
So L presents 3 photos. Light, if Kira, wants to get in the task force to get L's identity, so he needs to impress him, but at the same time doesn't want to be cornered. So Light doesn't easily give the true hidden message, as he realizes the pages numbers were a trap set by L (only Kira would straight disregard the fake numbering). Though, because he's petty and competitive, and wants to join, he still gives the true message with the caveat of believing the "true" numbering renders them wrong (which would imply Kira is dumb and got sloppy with his 3 part letters). Arrogantly, he believes he just did a good job there.
Then L shits on him and throws one out a left field: a 4th fake picture, and asks "why were you so certain there were only 3 pics in the first place?🤔" So either Light says the fourth is a fake (and game's over), or he admits he was indeed acting under a suspicious certainty that there were only 3 pics - that was the true trap, not the numbers. He's mad cornered already, but it doesn't stop there.
L then says "You know what? This whole routine I did, I also've done it to all task members, but you're the only one who deduced everything so fast". Light was soo busy trying to not slip in front of L's traps, that he forgot to act his age and occupation (student), outpacing every professional in a special task force. That was another metatrap going on from the start.
Light even says "well, I sure look suspicious now, ain't I?", and starts to back off from the corner he's in. He tries to _deflect_ by saying "but this information doesn't help catching Kira anyways so..", but L ain't done and straight out throws another bone: "I want you in the secret task force, where you can get close to my name and identity".
Light, fumbled, has to either deny but not for no reason, or has to accept, but not too eagerly. So he opts to deny, justifying "I would, but I don't want to be at risk.. cus maybe _you're_ Kira". He goes in a whole rant of misdirection here to paint L as Kira, as an attempt to both deflect the corner he's in and to parse out if this dude is truly L or just sent by him. "You won't even show me the team or if you, Ryuuka, is truly L, or if L's really there, just because I can't prove you I ain't Kira. So nah, the deal is off". L, though, ain't done profiling, so he says "wait.. I don't remember ever saying I wouldn't show you the team. In fact, I'l take you there right now if you say you want it". Kira didn't know how to act and was saved by his dad having a random heart attack, ending L's barrage. L and Kira are not equals in intellect at all, L was just working against paranormal bs.
(Edit: eh, should've done this sooner, but for the ones who're still confused about the incomplete phrase, look at Linh Miu comment on the Japanese grammar)
I hate that this comment explaining this scene has no replies. So I’ll be the first.
You wrote an entire college discussion and I respect it. That was a great analysis of the scene, maybe I'll show it people who still say this scene was pointless
Beautiful analysis, really peeled back the layers for me. I never realized this scene ran THAT deep. Thank you!
One of the best analyses of this scene I have seen. Made me realize how Light would be toast
Considering he only gave him 3 pictures I'm pretty sure it would be normal to assume there should only be 3. Being suspicious of him for not thinking there was more is a bit of a reach. And you're forgetting that Light literally wants L to think he's Kira but just not be able to prove it, so he has no problem showing off how smart he is.
I love how Light actually looks like a Normal Person most of the time before his eyes narrow.
That long silence is just too obvious. Light is being really suspicious 💀
It feels kinda weird not having their internal monologues like the scene still makes sense without them but without the internal monologue you're missing the actual intent and thinking and reasoning of both the characters it's just real strange
Thats the point...
@@shrimpgaming1749 I know
The reason there are long pauses is for the viewer to understand their thought process, in real time there would probably be less time between the dialogues
Kinda reminds me of the elevator scene from nge
Imo, it makes sense for Light to have an irl pause here bc he's trying his best to appear normal even though he's a genius. If anything, while it is a little long, his pause makes perfect sense as he's trying to maintain that facade of a "junior detective", so to speak.
Bros eyes are not moving back and forth which means he's thinking and not reading. L could have figured out right then and there
The notes are written in Japanese up to down (vertically) so his eyes would be moving up and down as he reads
It’s just less obvious as someone reading horizontally that their eyes are moving
Also bc yeah he already knows what the notes say obviously but he has to “pretend read it” and is thinking at the same time so to the viewer we know he’s not really reading it but thinking instead
There's actually another, sneakier reason -- it's an anime and this is a still frame, you don't spend your limited budget on animating characters' eyes as they read when you don't have to
@@catherinestickels2591
Yeah for that reason too
I have seen other anime where they DO animate the eyes moving but the titles allude me
The truth was, the inner monologues happen in moments. When you think do you think at the speed you talk? No, they pretty much form quickly.
@@rdtiel
I guess it depends on how fast you can talk bc thoughts are basically talking to yourself inside your head
They call it “brainstorming”
for a reason bc it’s like a storm forming and brewing at the speed that you can talk
Some thoughts DO seem to be instant though depending on what the thought is like subconscious thoughts for example
STOP BECAUSE WHY IS IT SO FUNNY
No wonder why he thought Light was guilty 💀
There's some professional advice I heard about interviews that applies to this scene.
People forget awkward pauses.
People don't forget awkward statements.
Honestly, other than the long pause after L told Light his deductions were wrong, this actually flowed surprisingly smoothly. Usually monologues in anime take super long because the words themselves distract the audience from how much time has passed.
The longest pause was Light studying the notes, which... yeah. It would take someone a while to read all the notes and notice the coded message if they were seeing it for the first time. Even the less long pause when L brings out the 4th note can be interpreted as a regular detective thinking about whether to confront L with the "Well, I assumed that as a fellow detective, you would share relevant evidence. Hiding evidence sounds like a Kira thing to do".
If you listen to Light dialogue that Kira is mocking L and that gods of death love apples. Light basically dropped the biggest hint to L.
The crazy thing is after you’ve seen the show you can still understand their thought process through stuff like the music queues or slight changes in the animation
Lmaooo I love this. Could turn the whole show almost into a comedy by doing this because uncomfortable silences undo me every time.
It also made me realize how much they must have saved on animation by having long still shots during the internal monologues :'D
This!!
it really shows the tension happening in real time. We're usually so caught up in the monologue while viewing that seeing the scene actually play out from Ls perspective is really interesting
I always assumed that the inner monologues take up about a second in their time, and are just slowed down and articulated for the audience. Basically time "freezes" so that we can get the thought processes spelled out to us the dumb dumb audience, but because these two are geniuses, the actual monologue happens in a flash, so no awkward pauses like this... just my thoughts.
Edit: lots of pseudo-intellectuals in the responses, acting like this this an obvious assumption. My comment was not meant to be an "epithany" that I suddenly came to a day ago; thought going faster than speech is something I have been familiar with in media for quite some time, like Im sure many of you. Neither am I trying to criticize the video; it is a funny ass take on the matter, and I do not believe it's supposed to be a critique in itself either.
Edit 2: I am aware I mistyped epiphany, but Im not a coward so I wont edit it out.
yeah you're completely right
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You can see this is true when watching the scenes that involve intensely waiting looking at a watch and waiting for someone to die. A second passing on the watch actually takes several seconds of watching the show
Exactly
Exactly, it's anime time. Like Kishibe Rohan taking ten seconds to decide what to do in his 0.2 second reaction window.
I want to watch the entire series this way, almost like a "death note abridged" vibe could come of it lmao
Death Note but you are a guy in the booth next to the main characters
Absolutely make more of these cuz it's interesting to hear the interractions without the thoughts how Light should answer
Agreed! I haven't read Death Note in so long and forgot how this scene went, that Light saying, "There's a hidden message," threw me for such a loop lol. He practically incriminated himself right away.
L: is he trying to come up with the exact right answer?
Light: Hold on a sec L I'm monologuing a villain speech in my head right now.
Seriously though they both have them but this shows just how damn long and self-indulgent Light's are. You can barely tell L is thinking to himself
The internal monologues are presumed to be taking for way less time than perceived here as it's only stretched out for the sake of the audience hearing the explanation or context of the scene.
@@ipo7596 exactly.
And the thing is that in the manga, this would only take around 2 panels
But also this is probably a very normal amount time for someone to sit and think without talking, when given a puzzle like this to solve.
I feel so bad for L. I could not’ve sat through this. I cringed through the screen
Without the internal monologue Light’s reaction to L looks like a guy struggling to remain polite when dealing with an asshole. Just “you’re just fucking with me to make yourself feel smart, aren’t you, but I’ll remain professional” energy
I always thought the response after this of L increasing Light's probability of being Kira from less than 1% to 4% because he didn't think to ask about a possible 4th (fake) note, to be odd. Then this edit happened, and a decade plus later, I finally see what was probably very obvious to everyone else.
The time stops when characters do monologues, internal or external, so I dunno.
Why'd you expect more notes to begin with?
@@MarkoPolo1223 i though it was because Light acted as it he was sure that there was 3 letters. And pulling out a fourth letter confused Light, more even after L was pulling out a different message that the one Light said.
Obviously taking in mind that Light at that moment was taking everything personally after the tennis match with L
@Lecherous Lizard this became longer than I meant it to become. I am so sorry.
Only Kira and the police know how many notes there are. Light ignores the labeled numbers (1,2, and 4) on the back, saying the order doesn't make sense.
Now, here is where some knowledge of written Japanese is helpful. In Japanese, using a string of kanji can mean something very different than the individual kanji. Plus, they write from top to bottom in columns and then move right to left. Unlike in English, where we move left to right and then down the page. This changes the number of possibilities of what the fake note could contain to complete the message.
With that in mind, Light became so paranoid about being tested that he implemented himself by not asking for a note labeled 3. Again, only the police and Kira know there are only 3 real notes.
A perfect deduction would have concluded with either asking for the final note or saying it's an incomplete message. However Light insisted that the message was complete.
L used the limited scope of public knowledge to see how a genius soon-to-be detective will respond to the information given. Since Light didn't ask for a note labeled 3 and operated on the assumption that there wasn't another note, an assumption Kira would make, that is why L increased the possibility of Light being Kira, but only by 3%.
@@Another_El_User yeah that's what I'm saying. Light knew there were three because he wrote three, but then L pulls out a fourth. Light was sure he was right because he knew L was lying about the fourth and L believed that Light's confidence came from knowing there weren't any more.
@@LecherousLizardReminds me of Dio's time stop at the end of JoJo3. 60 seconds of monologue = 1 second has passed
Without the monologue, you can really appreciate the background music for these scenes
"I just thought you were really really slow"
I like how it gives Light time to read them, and doesn't make him read it unreasonably fast, and the cut to his eyes, and his small facial changes really put it all together tbh. Light's also look more human than L does.
You should do this with the tennis scene! That moment would be wildly different without the monologues
this actually makes the scene more tense IMO
This was alot less ridiculous than i thought. I liked the fact that without the internal monologue it was way more obvious that light was not really studying the photograph's but strongly thinking about what he should say.
This is how it feels when you keep missing the quicktime event
I need to rewatch the entire show like this
It'd be fun "not knowing"/"guessing"/"trying to remember" what the characters are/were thinking in these moments and then witnessing their subsequent actions
Reminds me how the orignal Evangelion had a low budget and ran out halfway which is how we got that elevator scene of Rei and Asuka just standing in an elevator saying nothing for an unnerving amount of time. It was like other parts of the show used to save budget but also had a neat effect of building suspense and realism.
A great artist makes the most of the tools they have, also you may have convinced me to give that show a shot, it keeps coming up, and that sounds like the type of scene i'd fuck with
was the kaworu scene budget constraints or artistic decision
@@lightningmonky7674evangelion is so good you should definitely check it out!! I finished it for the first time last week, watched the whole thing in only a week including the movies. the anime has tons of scenes where they are making the most out of a tiny budget, imo it’s really amazing
@@deansbian5607kaworu scene was shinji hesitating to kill him
@@perogun i got that but i couldnt decide if they chose to let the shot stay for a minute as an artistic choice or they ran out of money to animate shinji screaming and shit lol
light be looking super sus in this
I'm happy that I can read the message after about a year of learning Japanese. I feel like watching the series again now.
Whats written
@@fighter604 almost same as the dub. Only difference is "Who love apples" is written as "Who eat nothing except apples".
1:30 L, do you know gods of death who love apples (...missing)
But it sounds more jumbled up because of line to line translation.
Really? I've been studying for six months and all I don't know is what the middle line means.(aside from たべない.) It's pretty simple because the whole thing was written out in hiragana except the kanji 死 and 神, which when read separately read "death" and "God", but together reference gods of death. It's a clever acrostic on Light's part, and the dub did all right translating it.
2:25 someone gives you this look... you'd instantly think he is insane.
I mean from an innocent Light's perspective this pro detective just gave him three pictures, told him to make sense of them, then brought up how dumb and stupid he was for not thinking he actually had a fourth picture shoved up his ass. An innocent light is just looking at this mid 20 something year old detect essentially try to humiliate a highschool student because of his need to feel superior, I'd be pissed too.
The lightskin stare
It would be interesting if we could watch the whole series without the internal monologues and without the audience knowing who exactly is the Kira so the audience could be the judge of whether Light is innocent or guilty
L: The Animation
yes please
I don't remember much of death note but his behavior seemed fairly innocuous imo. I would expect him to act the same way an innocent person would.
Pretty sure we would know hes guilty as soon as we see him maniacally writing in the notebook labeled "Death Note"
@@carterf3585 I knew this comment would be here and I laughed my ass off when it was
The thrill in Death Note comes from Light finding ways to avoid getting caught while also being part of the team investigating his own crimes. L knows that Light is Kira, but he has to prove it and find a way to trap him/prevent the use of the Death Note's powers (which are unknown to L). Simply arresting Light (which does happen) isn't enough to stop him.
It wouldn't really be Death Note if it were a more conventional detective/mystery story.
If the WHOLE anime didn't show the internal monologues of these characters, everything becomes fifty times more funny. Seriously.
1:58 picking dialogue in games be like
Light: sits there in silence for an awkwardly long time
L: "Uh......Light? Are you okay? Hellllloooooooo? Earth to Light Yagami. Say anything if you're not Kira."
Light: continues to sit in silence
L: "Well..........I guess you're Kira then."
Light: "Sorry. I zoned out for a minute. What's going on?"
I would totally do that if i was in this position
Light looks totally guilty if you see those scenes in silence.
Cringe just like yer state...
"Uhh, I totally wasn't thinking up a lie."
What gave Light away was when Light was thinking the screen went red. Dead giveaway
As a regular person (with about 3 years of criminal justice as an elective) my first conclusion to seeing the notes would be that Kira's victims somehow know that they're going to die. Then, I would ask about whether any of them had any visitors beforehand, check the alibis of people who interacted with them, etc. I would think that Kira has grown cocky and decided to taunt the investigators. I wouldn't worry about some sort of code in the messages until that lead has gone cold. Of course, with a team I would delegate analysis of the letters just in case, but in this situation I wouldn't have one. Light had no reason to automatically assume that there was a code. While there is a precedent of killers sending coded letters, there is also a precedent of them sending regular letters.
Not only that, but Kira has been shown to be extremely cocky and brash. His first kill was clearly impulsive. If he had truly thought it through, he would've gone for a major public figure, such as Putin, because they have many enemies and their name and face is widely known. The same thing with the timing of the kills. He was clearly overconfident, not even considering that people might realize the connection between the deaths and his schedule as a student. It makes perfect sense that he would send regular letters to taunt the investigators, as he has shown that he feels very confident and secure in his identity not being figured out. That also adds to why I would investigate everyone who interacted with the victims because his confidence could have led him to meeting the victims personally beforehand. After all, they're not going to catch him, right? And his ego would also add to the appeal of such a thing because being able to meet with victims, tell them what to write, and then evade capture would be just the kind of thing that someone like him would enjoy.
I agree with everything but, he doesn't need to met with them to get them to write stuff. the death note can make someone do anything (within logical reason) including writing something again within logical reasoning all without meeting face to face. Light only needed a name and face. Its explained better in the anime but, basically they can't write something they don't know but its possible to take common knowledge to manipulate what could be said to make a hidden message its a loophole. The reason kira needed someone like L was due to the fact he was nearly untraceable i mean you would know if something like the death note was real most normal methods would be useless
@@azurephantom100 I know that, but I'm saying if I was in that universe, no knowledge of the death note, THAT would be my thought process. I wouldn't immediately assume that the same way Kira kills can control the actions of the victims before they die. I would assume that Kira somehow got into contact with them. Shinigami bullshittery is virtually unknown after all
This is a cool comment. Nice perspective, I used to think, “bold of him to show that he sees a code so quickly,” but I never really thought about how blatantly obvious he was being by even cracking the code in the first place. There were so many other things he should’ve been thinking about as an innocent man.
I love this perspective, thank you for sharing! It really shows off just how shortsighted and cocky Light is getting, and why L is able to catch him
Why would a Japanese schoolkid care about a Russian leader who has nothing to do with him or his country?
he took his damn sweet time reading those notes alright
Every pause light takes it is like there is supposed to be a selection menu for the player to puck the right option
somehow this scene is still just as tense to me without the monologues. not knowing what either one is thinking adds to the drama! bravo on the editing, can't wait to watch more of this
I watched death notes years ago and had mostly forgotten it. Having recently finished Crime and Punishment by Fyodor Dostoevsky, I can’t help but notice the similarities (although there are indeed huge differences) between Light and Raskolnikov, as well as L and Porfiry Petrovich. I highly advice all of you who enjoyed Death Note to give Crime and Punishment a chance (Literature hardly gets any better than Dostoevsky)
Looks like someone read Dostoevsky for the first time and now feels like the most enlightened person on earth haha
@@smfcx4685 ? Are you projecting? Lol. Some people might have missed this book and it's a pretty interesting read. This person wasn't acting enlightened, it was just a recommendation.
@@smfcx4685 “hey look at this thing I’m learning about for the first time! It’s cool and similar to this! If you also haven’t checked out this thing you totally should!”
You: check out ol’ smarty pants McGee over here! Get a load of this nerd!!
@@smfcx4685 berserk cringe profile picture that explains a lot
@@galois9978 their pfp isn’t what’s cringe. Their sub to sovereign citizen channels is 😂😂
Imagine you are asking some random guy a simple question and he answers you after 1 minute while death staring you like he is choosing dialogue options in fallout 😂
LMFAO this is why he got figured out so fast
To be fair, they took a reasonable amount of time to think and answer, thats why I love series like succession cause you can see their quick thinking and chess game on their acting and script
bro the silent staring and then the little musical notes had me crying
"Sir, should we be concerned that there's no animation from 0:31 to 0:42?"
"Nah, the sound guys will play an inner monolouge over it, nobody will notice."
He did say take as long as you want