@@jellymatsuryuka6853 yea I guess it's just the lack of animation making it suss. If he said "hmm" and shuffled the papers around and such it would be more convincing
Bro is obvious af. It's like in Inside Out where the main character gets triggered over banalities. Here Kira just had to say "oh wow there's a 4th letter I'm such a nerd haha I thought i got it figured it out." Anyway he's thinking too long. He's not living the moment like dude has to start meditation or anything laid back. L is an adult already he can see through him.
Its one of the reasons I always come back to this series. Only the original Hellsing (not ova) comes close to the same style of calmy loungy music used
That's what other people see but in between the 2 of them it's a constant battle to see who slips up heavily first and constantly trying to give each other a hard time
@@UnkownUnkown01 I wonder how it would look like if you watched it the first time with all internal monologues cut. Would you still get the tension given they always act so calm on the outside but you still see what both sides do
@@tomlxyzI’ve never seen Death Note before this clip. From this clip they sound like friends taking an IQ test. Only thing that makes me think there’s something going on is how curt the curled up guy talks. Makes it sound like he knows something the other doesn’t, but this could be chalked up to him being the straight man in the duo. I agree this does seem really calming, funny knowing how crazy the show is supposed to be
@@SporkEnthusiastthat is more or less a proper assessment of this situation while have it being accurate to its lore..Idr all of or even a lot of details of D note but I’d rewatch a monolouge’less version lol
ikr its the way i wish people would behave themselves irl around me. like whats the rush. why cant people enjoy silence, and save all their rambling for text. in text it wont go nowhere. its eternalized. its noiseless. you can read or not read it at liesure. but speaking is noise it is a thought interrupter if you have too much outer dialogue, you have little internal dialogue. vice versa. But having internal dialogue means you can think, and would be better at planning, and these 2 guys are smart n trying to play mental chess so in this situation they have to play smart, and speak this way because they have to. But honestly its a polite way to converse in general. People should be allowed time to meditate so that they can keep the unutterable unuttered, unexplainable unexplained, save you the bullshit and only vocalize the key point without an "uh" or stutter. Some people repeat themselves and say the same thing in 3 different ways over the course of a minute because they are using outer dialogue to simulate the main point in the same way inner dialogue could've simulated it. If they are outer only, it seems they are making noise because they legitimately are addicted to hearing their own voice. They end up in a loop where they are stuck on a thought because it keeps being externally casted instead of being left in the mental oven to develop and finish cooking, but they don't want the thought to cook because it means they no longer have whitenoise in their surrounding air. Its amazing to me how I can spend six hours with someone in person and they will speak a gillion words a minute, and by the end of the night , I realized there is not a damn thing that person said of substance. in contrast someone can only speak a phrase to me at a certain point in time. When it becomes relevant again, I remember it up to 20 years later like they had just got done saying it. It takes more time to speak and listen to others speak than it does to type and read. Little known fact. So why spend hours talking about nothing? When you could type SOMETHING? Making sounds with your mouth just for the sake of it isn't human communication. It is reasons like this I hate hanging out with a large crowd of friends. All of us could be intelligent in our own ways and interesting well spoken people. Put each other in a group and all we can seem to talk about is the same inane drivel we could've talked about with any other crowd and the entire night is just pointless jibber jabber smalltalk and "iknoooowwwriiiiiiite?!?!" And giggling at things that weren't funny because the Big Bang Theory Laugh Track has wormed it's way into unconscious behavioral patterns deep within our NPC code; laughing at our own jokes to hint at others a sense of "that was a punchline btw"
@@fluffypinkpandas On one hand, I too wish people would shut up and let me think. On the other, damn bro you just typed a whole essay. Did the text version of what you hate.
@@littlemoth4956 "and save all their rambling for text. in text it wont go nowhere. its eternalized. its noiseless. you can read or not read it at liesure" i do still think that person is corny though
@@ambasing69 thanks man. I hope these people would see the obvious and stop making stup'd comments on how things are ridiculous when they're meant to be ridiculous
@@cjboyoI'm not sure that applies here at all lol you might want to google that again Light is a good at lying and manipulating. That's why he got away with it for so long in the show. It's just that without the monologue this feels less like anime and more like 'real life'. It makes it awkward as hell Light also isn't a narrator. I understand your confusion though >While the protagonist isn’t shown to be an unreliable narrator, the possibility of bias for his own actions does exist.
I would really wonder how someone who's never seen the show would interpret everything that's going on, would it be even remotely possible to keep up another really interesting thing would be, if someone cut out everything that L wasn't there to witness, so we would basically get the show exclusively from L's perspective
bro pauses for 30 seconds in between sentences and sends out the most calculated charismatic American psycho-type sentence, and he thinks he's slick. lmfao
@@YoursTruly78887 Is 30 seconds too long to read and analyze a note from a mysterious crime scene for you? It's probably because you're one of the smartest on this planet
@@Errors404 I was talking about the pauses afterwards when he’s getting pressed rather than the initial ones, those were pretty normal. Maybe even sus how with quick he was
Without the internal monologue, Light sounds like he's been caught -- it's almost like a Columbo scene, where the detective very clearly *knows* he's interacting with the killer.
@Wind Rose The "red hands" bit reads like a direct implication L *knows* Light's playing games. He told Light there were letters, not how many, and implied it wasn't a full list, but Light immediately assembled a message that assumed the opposite. Who else but Kira could build *exactly* the correct message on their first try from incomplete information?
@@robologo Columbo is a detective show structured around the audience knowing who the murderer is and the detective, a shabby, socially awkward man with a glass eye, figures out how they did the murder. Usually, he does this by revealing a small piece of evidence, like some gum, or a bit of dust, or a small piece of hair. In this case, L's small piece of evidence was Light's assumption there were only three notes -- unlike in Columbo, however, L recognizes his evidence might not stand up in court. He admits there must be *zero* doubt if he nails Kira or his target gets off the hook.
As you can see, fans get a bit hyperbolic about it, but it really is a good, unique show. My wife has zero interest in anime and she watched it compulsively after I put on the first episode. It's just so refreshingly highbrow. No talking cats or giant swords, just a solid Moriarty/Holmes battle of wits.
If you watch other anime, you’ll notice the same thing. Your eyes will be drawn to the character talking so you don’t notice how still the rest of the frame is.
Is the Best fuck You stare, it makes Light look like a dumb teen, is interesting how not being able to listen how he explains his actions how Bad he actually is to hide his emotions
I thought the internal monologue segments would be cut out completely, to make one seamless conversation. I always assumed that's how it was happening; most people can think faster than they speak. But this is *way* funnier.
That's what I assumed too. The only reason it feels more awkward and less natural is cos they literally are making it seem like a person can't think and do/say things at the same time. Obviously a person isn't gonna literally have a lengthy internal conversation with themself while in a social setting with another person. But I agree this is hilarious
I assume that’s how it’s meant to play out in the show his monologuing/thinking is happening within seconds, and it only takes as long as it does for us. Since it’s normal for anime to say “5 for seconds till this happens” and you skip 15 second and they still have more time left
@@Strip4Dreezylol oh yeah, man I hate when characters do that 😂 “we only have a few seconds to stop this literal world ending event, omg hurry!!!” Then the actual pacing is like 40 seconds of long dramatic pauses and holds on their expressions. It really takes away from the tension for me which is ironically the exact opposite of what they’re trying to do 😂
@@mimthyss At the top of the episode when characters say something bad is going to happen in five minutes, then at the end of the 23 minute episode you end on a cliffhanger where the bad thing is just about to happen.
Stares at the notes, immediately tells L the secret code, gets given a fake note and visibly reacts like “wait I didn’t write that one” Master of deception at work here
To be honest it was very good bait. Light obviously tried to be helpful and gave L what he wanted, he surely underestimated him again and got punished for it. But moments like this made this show awesome. One mistake and it could be over.
I mean it kinda just looks like a basic ass way to encode messages that anyone could figure out and he went for the most logical option of hidden message that worked, that's how I would've solved the 3 letters myself even if I wasnt kira
He reacted to being wrong and not the 4th letter. His reaction comes before L mentions or pulls out the letter. Which means L sees light was certain of his answer rather than just being surprised by the last letter. Everyone else would’ve been open to the possibility of having been wrong
as someone who hasn't watched the show, this is incredibly funny to me two guys look at each other, one reads some letters, and then goes "hey there's a secret message!" and other one goes "L bozo, there was an extra letter i didn't tell you about get owned"
The silence and eye narrowing when Light realizes L caught him in a mistake somehow works even better without the monologue. Even without words, you can tell exactly what he's thinking.
@@BasicallynoOneAtAll L never actually figured out that light but had a strong doubt lmao...Even we heard it in his ep 9 monologue. The fact L cannot catch light shows more enough that light is good
Works for most anime. Most inner monologues in anime kinda treat their audience like children by giving throughout explanation. Without it there's more space for the audience to come up with theories and explanations
@@randomassjellyfishbut they need to get the point across to move the plot. If the entire show made the audience make their own theories, the show would fall.
I don't think the whole show would work without internal dialogue. Some of the resolutions Light and L come up with would make 99% of the audience be extremely confused, people would need to pause and figure it out.
Light: It's a good thing I can think 4 times faster than the average adult, this gives me plenty of time to properly analyze the situation without raising suspicion. L: I've never been forced to make direct eye contact with someone this long. Please Kira, end my suffering.
Instead of "you got me there," he should've admitted his supposed mistake. "I guess that means I'm too eager to settle with answers I like without considering alternatives."
I like how without the intense inner psychopath dialogue they both look like genius but socially awkward college kids. Seriously, Light sounds and looks just like some harmless good kid talking over coffee. That is, until L calls him out on the fourth note thing and his eyes narrow and the scene feels a lot colder for a split second, then from L's perspective it becomes a lot more feasible that this is definitely the psycho murderer they're looking for. Like others have said, a remake from L's perspective would be a lot of fun to watch.
Honestly that part of the scene didn't give me psycho vibes at all lol. It's just like he's going "Is this guy fucking serious??? OOoohhHhh AcTuAlLy ThErE aRe 4 LeTtErS~ Give me all 4 letters from the start then asshole!" in his head. But he's too polite/repressed to actually say it so he just let's L "win" this one. (Like I know he's actually Kira and was doing an evil monologue, but just from this? Nah he just seems sick of this weirdo playing mindgames.)
I mean even if I am not Kira and suddenly someone asks me about something like this, gives a pretty good answer hoping to impress them with my negligible deductive skills, then they just said "there's actually a 4th letter", I'll definitely be dissatisfied myself lmao.
@@sixjhontongalamar979 It mostly doesn't work the same in english, they needed to use a different sentence example. With the Japanese, it should have been reasonable to look at the numbers on the back, say that then the sentence doesn't make sense and therefore there might be another card that makes it make sense
@@decus478 but it makes sense after rearranging the letters no? If it works within the given clues, would everyone really assume that there's a fourth clue? As I've said, negligible deductive skills. Don't push my brain too hard xD
@@TheFernandinho I'd like to think it's up to God, _whomst_ gave his only begotten son so you could live without sin. Shout out to Jesus Christ everybody! 👏🏾 👏🏾
@@Chiara-ep5er he responded with full confidence to the correct thing that Kira did, and his off guard reaction was consistent with being exposed and indignant that L "ruined Kira's masterpiece".
@@Chiara-ep5er I believe the fourth letter was fake, and Kira did not consider it because he didn't write it. L produces it to show, how can you be so sure there are only 3 letters? Because he have only written 3 at that moment.
This edit is so fascinating. Light's instability is obvious to anyone who can hear him but he plays it perfectly straight in his interactions with others....or so we're conditioned to think. He really does look hella guilty in this light (Pun unintended).
He really looked like a criminal but not in an obvious way. It's in the subtle way his face changes responding to situations. His almost annoyed or dismissive staring even when from Ls perspective he's done nothing to annoy him.
@@OnePieceSS23 But that's mostly because they need to show him with some reaction, after all it's a show and they need dramatic scenes. If Light existed IRL and were as smart and cunning as he's supposed to be in the anime/manga, he probably wouldn't react at all, but that would be boring for an anime, as the point of these scenes is precisely to show the internal monologue and what's going on in the characters' heads. The creators show that through expressions and reactions and they are supposed to be exaggerated.
Light, internally "is actuay writing a thesis and developing complex mindmaps for the most natural non-suspicious answer at top speed, brain operating in overclock" Light: I dunno
I can take as long as I want? Ok, let me sleep on it then. My subconscious brain comes up with stuff sometimes that I'd never think of when actively trying.
This scene is so smart is holds up completely even without the monologues. Obviously, it would be terrible writing to have your characters sitting there reading in silence, but it's 100% true to life. The only issue is Light's eyes not moving at all.
True, but when you think about the eyes it could just as well fit with the context of the scene; Light already knows what the notes say, and part of his loss to L's trick is that he responds as if he does
@@SAIMONch The animators could have at least made him blink or shuffle the 3 papers around while he was reading. Tiny bits of animation can add a lot and not make it look like a still painting.
@@SAIMONch Reading that I could just hear L's voice in my head, calmly observing, "Hmmm, I notice your eyes are not moving, as if you already know what the notes say..."
I had a job interview recently (and got the job!) which required reading over some legal jargon related to the job and trying to deduce what it meant. Felt exactly like this.
Me, listening to Light's internal monologues in the show: ah, that thought process makes sense. Surely you'll be less suspicious if you say that. Me, hearing Light's responses without the internal monologue: what the fuck.
Its interesting, the internal monologues sort of normalize Light to the viewer, and make the battle of wits feel much more even. When you remove the connection to Light and see him objectively like this though, it makes him seem far more suspicious and less proficient. L really was running circles around him.
Tbh like this the cat and mouse game becomes even clearer. L was running circles around him but Light still said stuff like at the end of the clip abt making Kira say something only he could know, cuz he knows L can’t know about the death note
Inner monologues arguably made it even worse. Light is so confident and knows what to say. Then L just beats him at it like a child. In this scene L was the one who had Light in his grasp. If he was willing to risk, he could capture him and Misa right now. He didn't know who is the second Kira, but a wild guess would prove correct when the killings would stop and never continue. L could even guess that Light keeps the note in a special place which would destroy it if you don't know how to operate the lock. And find a way to retrieve it carefully. Then everything would be over.
@@azearaazymoto461 tbh wild guessing is kind of how L rolls. The killings happen on weekdays = Kira must be a student. Kira changed his schedule = Kira must be connected to the police somehow. And voila we've narrowed it to like 50 people. And those early assumptions are literally never revisited. Meanwhile during scenes like this that make Light look guilty as hell L is like "hmm i guess this makes you like 2% more likely to be kira, anyway wanna join the investigation team?"
Kira sounds like a genius with the internal monologue but without it it sounds like he’s going “well I have a suspiciously detailed explanation of this evidence of who could Kira be”
here's the thing, that kind of pause isn't actually that unreasonable. Especially if you're supposed to be reading the notes for the first time and trying to consider and compare alternative explanations.
@@sandromateus9274 That's what L wanted Light to say, right? That didn't go well, even if it's obvious it was him. He did "notice" the hidden message though
even without the internal monologue you can tell how narcissistic light truly is "I had perfect reasoning even without the fourth note" ,, like bro even if u did
The most suspicious thing is the fact he doesn't express surprise or revulsion at what he's looking at or ask L any questions about them. The way he says they're "interesting" makes him seem way too familiar with them, the fact he "deduced" the exact scenario Kira faced L with almost instantly is just a huge nail in Lights coffin.
I don't think so. To me, this was a test within a test. On the surface, L is testing Light's deductive reasoning. After all, being interested in becoming a detective as a gifted, brilliant highschool student makes his interest and lack of revulsion seem fine. The real test though, to L, is figuring out if Light's personality and ego match that of what he's deduced Kira's to be. That's why he tells Light that he got the question wrong. If Light is Kira, or if he really is just a gifted student, he figures out the puzzle correctly. Fine. But if he reacts defensively (my deduction was perfect), especially under the immense pressure of "revealing something only Kira could know," his personality and ego match that of Kira's. Light isn't dumb, he sees this coming and concedes the test appropriately. But his first instinct, the one L is looking for, is to get defensive. He can't hang Light with this. As he points out later in the same conversation, Light's odds of being Kira to L only go up a couple of points here. But if you're L, faced with a killing power unlike anything seen in human history that allows for total anonymity*, this is a MAJOR win in his book.
@@LonnyH Also Light is normally smart enough to at least ask about whether a missing piece could exist, him never even considering it a possibility is too much of a "normie" mistake to make (just taking the information as presented without sensing a trick). At best, Light isn't as smart as he seemed, and at worst, he knew there weren't any more letters because he wrote them.
@@LonnyH The actual test was that Kira actually wrote those first 3 messages. The fourth one is fake. At this point L knew Kira's personality very well, so he made a trap for Light. He gave Light notes numbered 1 to 3. If Light had no previous knowledge of those notes, the first thing he would be expected to try is to order them 1 to 3. That would leave an incomplete message. If he ordered them correctly, however, he would get a sentence that makes sense. As such, if Light had no previous knowledge, his best possible answer would be "These messages are encoded, if you arrange them by what makes sense, it reads as follows, but if you order them by the numbers on the back the message seems incomplete. Either these numbers were another misdirection, or they have another meaning, or there is a fourth message that wasn't found". But, Light is Kira so he KNOWS there is no fourth message. Thus, he makes the careless mistake of taking that knowledge only Kira should have into account. Because he knows he only wrote 3, there is no possible fourth message. The only correct order is the one that makes gramatical sense, and the numbers were a misdirection made by L. But that's a conclusion only Kira could reach, no other sane person who could figure out that much would make such a wild assumption at the expense of clear evidence. To add salt to injury, Light argues back. He feels cheated because he knows there is no fourth message, and his childish side doesn't accept "losing" that little game in such an unfair way. Of course, Light manages to slip out of this situation, and none of it was sufficient conclusive evidence that Light was Kira. Even if absolutely small, there was the chance that Light simply made a mistake and believed that L gave him all the information, and then was angry to fail. it's not as if only Kira and L are childish. But it does help to justify L's belief and his later actions.
A simple explanation that doesn’t make it more complicated than it is: Essentially… Only three notes were left by Kira, and only Kira himself, the police, and L know that, no-one else should know for-certain how many notes Kira left. So, anyone else would see the three-notes and realize that, when placed in numerical-order, the message is incomplete, so they’d probably ask if there was a fourth-note. However, since Light IS Kira, he knows there are only three-notes and that they aren’t intended to be read in numerical-order. So instead of asking if there are more-notes he says, “The numerical-order doesn’t make sense, Kira must’ve made a mistake and you have to read them out of order to get the message.” (Solving the message of the three-notes, while using reasoning to not seem suspicious). However, L pulls out a fourth-note. This is actually a fake-note, but if Light were innocent he wouldn’t know that. The fourth-note, when placed in numerical-order with the others, finishes the message. L then goes, “If you weren’t Kira, you would’ve asked if there was a fourth-note to finish the sentence. However, you seemed certain that there were only three-notes, and that the sentence HAD to make sense using only those three-notes. Only Kira, the police, and I know there are only three-notes, so you must be Kira.”
This is what people who think that this test is dumb is missing. L tells Light that these notes were written by criminals under the control of Kira which could imply that these are the only notes they got SO FAR. Meaning, they could potentially get more. Honestly, the smart move for Light would be to ask what the numbers mean or where they are from since L did say they were photographed. It's pretty important since it could indicate the order Kira wanted the notes to be read in or what the police thinks the correct order should be. This could also provide a better reason/excuse as to why Light disregarded the numerical order version.
@@natperXD The main point is that Light fucked up. He slipped because it's REALLY hard to think not using all knowledge at your disposal. To make matters worse, Light is really childish and likes to win, so when L blatantly "cheats" on his face, he gets mad and defensive.
I disagree. When I get something from a colleague or whomever, I try to make sense of what's in front of me. Considering a possible missing message doesn't always cross my mind. So, to me, the fact that Light doesn't consider more messages is proof of nothing.
@@moneymo6417 yes, but Light from the outside does not even consider the possibility and he is not a just normal person like us who just do a puzzle or something like that, I think a skill detective will at least think about that possibility, and L say that he made this test with other detectives so probably has a even more perspectives
It feels kinda weird not having their internal monologues like the scene still makes sense without them but without the internal monologue you're missing the actual intent and thinking and reasoning of both the characters it's just real strange
The reason there are long pauses is for the viewer to understand their thought process, in real time there would probably be less time between the dialogues
Imo, it makes sense for Light to have an irl pause here bc he's trying his best to appear normal even though he's a genius. If anything, while it is a little long, his pause makes perfect sense as he's trying to maintain that facade of a "junior detective", so to speak.
There’s something so interesting about the subtlety of the conversation without the monologue though. L producing the fourth letter really is a good catch. If Light was intuitive enough to figure out what the letters mean you’d think he’d at least ask if there was more, him dodging it completely is more indicative of him playing into an answer than actually considering anything.
When You say it like that it makes a Lot of sense, I've always thought that this was so L could catch Light being anoyed at the fact of having a famous detective saying he was wrong, but now I can see that it can be mixed with L checking if he was gonna get to the conclusión that fast
Not to disparage your argument but your statement of “if Light was intuitive enough to figure out what the letters mean” is flawed. Light was the one who made them write the letters so he is the one who truly understands the meaning. The reason he didn’t ask for more was because he himself knew that there wasn’t more which was entirely the point of L’s trap in this scene, because only Kira himself would know for certain that there were only 3 notes
@@villagersupremacy5594and also mainly cos the sentence was incomplete the order in which that L put them forward. Instead of asking “are you sure there weren’t anymore photos?” He assumes they were the only ones and decides to correct the sentence using the photos. Only Kira knows the original sentence regardless of what order L showed it to him. Kira being Light, he slipped up and showed the correct way.
The moment Light insists that his deduction was “perfect” with the three photos he was given further solidifies how much Light matches L’s profile of Kira; “childish and hates losing”, just like L himself. At this point, L was actually completely certain that Light was Kira, but objectively speaking, only had 7% of the evidence he needed to make that call.
Apparently, when he throws out numbers like “7%,” he’s actually hella convinced. So by this point, in his head, he’s most likely looking at Kira. He needs a good reason to let go, otherwise. But he’s stubborn (and smart enough to be correct early)
@@iheartblock3792 It is, but iirc, the mangaka's confirmed that L lies when he says that. He tells people what they want to believe, where 7% would probably put them on guard, but not have them believe that L's totally onto them.
@@joseantoniorodrigueslopes6979 He brings up the % multiple times in the story, saying it aloud. Both to Light and the investigation team, iirc. Either way, the mangaka himself confirmed these were lies: _Although L tells Light that he is among the least likely suspects with one of the lowest percentages of probability, in reality L is "pretty certain" that Light is Kira. As series writer Tsugumi Ohba said laughing, making light of L's tactics: "The truth is, he's a liar."_
This scene is actually genius. If L had continued, Light would've been caught right there. He presents 3 photos trying to see if Light slips and tells something the public couldn't know. Light is well aware of that so he tries to play safe. The genius is that L is aware that Light, if Kira, is well aware of L's perceived attempt, and moves accordingly through the scene. So L presents 3 photos. Light, if Kira, wants to get in the task force to get L's identity, so he needs to impress him, but at the same time doesn't want to be cornered. So Light doesn't easily give the true hidden message, as he realizes the pages numbers were a trap set by L (only Kira would straight disregard the fake numbering). Though, because he's petty and competitive, and wants to join, he still gives the true message with the caveat of believing the "true" numbering renders them wrong (which would imply Kira is dumb and got sloppy with his 3 part letters). Arrogantly, he believes he just did a good job there. Then L shits on him and throws one out a left field: a 4th fake picture, and asks "why were you so certain there were only 3 pics in the first place?🤔" So either Light says the fourth is a fake (and game's over), or he admits he was indeed acting under a suspicious certainty that there were only 3 pics - that was the true trap, not the numbers. He's mad cornered already, but it doesn't stop there. L then says "You know what? This whole routine I did, I also've done it to all task members, but you're the only one who deduced everything so fast". Light was soo busy trying to not slip in front of L's traps, that he forgot to act his age and occupation (student), outpacing every professional in a special task force. That was another metatrap going on from the start. Light even says "well, I sure look suspicious now, ain't I?", and starts to back off from the corner he's in. He tries to _deflect_ by saying "but this information doesn't help catching Kira anyways so..", but L ain't done and straight out throws another bone: "I want you in the secret task force, where you can get close to my name and identity". Light, fumbled, has to either deny but not for no reason, or has to accept, but not too eagerly. So he opts to deny, justifying "I would, but I don't want to be at risk.. cus maybe _you're_ Kira". He goes in a whole rant of misdirection here to paint L as Kira, as an attempt to both deflect the corner he's in and to parse out if this dude is truly L or just sent by him. "You won't even show me the team or if you, Ryuuka, is truly L, or if L's really there, just because I can't prove you I ain't Kira. So nah, the deal is off". L, though, ain't done profiling, so he says "wait.. I don't remember ever saying I wouldn't show you the team. In fact, I'l take you there right now if you say you want it". Kira didn't know how to act and was saved by his dad having a random heart attack, ending L's barrage. L and Kira are not equals in intellect at all, L was just working against paranormal bs. (Edit: eh, should've done this sooner, but for the ones who're still confused about the incomplete phrase, look at Linh Miu comment on the Japanese grammar)
You wrote an entire college discussion and I respect it. That was a great analysis of the scene, maybe I'll show it people who still say this scene was pointless
Considering he only gave him 3 pictures I'm pretty sure it would be normal to assume there should only be 3. Being suspicious of him for not thinking there was more is a bit of a reach. And you're forgetting that Light literally wants L to think he's Kira but just not be able to prove it, so he has no problem showing off how smart he is.
Holy shit this helps a lot to understand the scene actually. L stressing over the fact that why didn't Light ask whether there is any more notes, but instead assuming there are ONLY three notes /is/ his trap, not the fact that he could arrange the message in a certain way. Never noticed it before, brilliant.
So he’s using psychology smart except even he knew no conclusive answer or proof even though suspicious they both won’t give info not available but he’s seeing how he interacts
It probably helped raise his suspicion levels, but they were already about as high as they could be without having concrete evidence. And Light's reasoning did in fact make sense. L is really just feeling Light out. There's no trap, that would imply that this interaction proves anything.
Why would _anybody_ assume there's more notes? The only reason you would assume there's more notes is if you would assume L was deliberately trying to pull a fast one on you. And why would an innocent person assume that?
I always assumed that the inner monologues take up about a second in their time, and are just slowed down and articulated for the audience. Basically time "freezes" so that we can get the thought processes spelled out to us the dumb dumb audience, but because these two are geniuses, the actual monologue happens in a flash, so no awkward pauses like this... just my thoughts. Edit: lots of pseudo-intellectuals in the responses, acting like this this an obvious assumption. My comment was not meant to be an "epithany" that I suddenly came to a day ago; thought going faster than speech is something I have been familiar with in media for quite some time, like Im sure many of you. Neither am I trying to criticize the video; it is a funny ass take on the matter, and I do not believe it's supposed to be a critique in itself either. Edit 2: I am aware I mistyped epiphany, but Im not a coward so I wont edit it out.
You can see this is true when watching the scenes that involve intensely waiting looking at a watch and waiting for someone to die. A second passing on the watch actually takes several seconds of watching the show
If we take the second monologue's pause to a reasonable time frame in a verbal interactions(1, maybe 2 seconds max), then it's not outlandish enough to warrant serious suspicion. It definitely makes him a person of interest though!
@@agamemnonofmycenae5258 It's more how Kira answered like a whiny bitch that got exposed. Any other, normal person would've asked "wait, is that real? That's written in completely different font and looks fake as hell, no way that's the same guy right?
Honestly, other than the long pause after L told Light his deductions were wrong, this actually flowed surprisingly smoothly. Usually monologues in anime take super long because the words themselves distract the audience from how much time has passed.
The longest pause was Light studying the notes, which... yeah. It would take someone a while to read all the notes and notice the coded message if they were seeing it for the first time. Even the less long pause when L brings out the 4th note can be interpreted as a regular detective thinking about whether to confront L with the "Well, I assumed that as a fellow detective, you would share relevant evidence. Hiding evidence sounds like a Kira thing to do".
Tbf like this, Light seems like an overeager teen that wants to help so badly he says anything that comes to mind.. which is pretty in-character for the son of a detective who also is smart.
L: is he trying to come up with the exact right answer? Light: Hold on a sec L I'm monologuing a villain speech in my head right now. Seriously though they both have them but this shows just how damn long and self-indulgent Light's are. You can barely tell L is thinking to himself
The internal monologues are presumed to be taking for way less time than perceived here as it's only stretched out for the sake of the audience hearing the explanation or context of the scene.
@@mynameisben123 Honeslty it should be 20-40 minutes of awkward silence and “well…. Maybe maybe…. Or maybe maybe…. Maybe…. Ugh….” You know. How people solve puzzles WITHOUT knowing the answer beforehand?
it really shows the tension happening in real time. We're usually so caught up in the monologue while viewing that seeing the scene actually play out from Ls perspective is really interesting
no it doesn't. the monologues don't happen in real time. which is why during monologues everything, including the rain falling in some scenes, completely stops.
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“What do you think of that?”
Light: 🗿
damn light's so petty he acutally turns this back in that deleted grave scene
Light is so cool
I nearly cried by laughing, thats comedy gold 😂
"Take your time reading them" oh he will
yeah he'll be taking a long ass time 😭
Bro was just taking out his google translate
Him taking time to "crack the code" was perfectly reasonable. What gave it away was the pause after L handed him the fake photo.
Bro The Silence was loud and audible
ironically it makes it more realistic for a situation that regular films would've sped up as if the characters know speed reading
L : You can take as long as you want to look them over
Light : And I took that personally
Dr. K: Can I think for a second?
@@cleverman383 Ah (clever) man of culture I see
Well canonically doesn't time pause when they go over their thoughts?
@@wile123456 I'd rather think not, those pauses seem reasonable for any human trying really hard to solve a riddle on his own.
@@jellymatsuryuka6853 yea I guess it's just the lack of animation making it suss. If he said "hmm" and shuffled the papers around and such it would be more convincing
> gets exposed
> proceeds to just stare at him 30 seconds
> "You got me there haha"
> Wonders why he's a suspect
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I chocked from laughing reading your comment 😂
😂😂
Breaking Bad reference
Bro is obvious af. It's like in Inside Out where the main character gets triggered over banalities.
Here Kira just had to say "oh wow there's a 4th letter I'm such a nerd haha I thought i got it figured it out."
Anyway he's thinking too long. He's not living the moment like dude has to start meditation or anything laid back. L is an adult already he can see through him.
this is like when the npc aready finished talking and is waiting for you to choose the next dialogue option
thats accurate asf
Fallout 4
And then they start bobbing thier head
@@mrwhiteboy1350 L starts scratching his feet
Yea L looks dumb af here lol
The silence helps me realize just how good the background music is.
Its one of the reasons I always come back to this series. Only the original Hellsing (not ova) comes close to the same style of calmy loungy music used
Reminds me of Persona 5
I don’t go here (here being the Death Note Fandom), but the music is A+++! Gonna seek it out on my own!
I was going to say it, but you already did. I particularly liked the baseline that came in at 2:24
Esp the guitar tracks!!
Bro is choosing his next dialogue option
But he actually is tho lol
You're not original
@@archivedocumentaries6776nothings original anymore deal with it let people say whatever.
@@archivedocumentaries6776you know, they actually did a study recently, and it turns out that absolutely no one cares
@@archivedocumentaries6776 it was funny tho
I always assumed that time stopped or slowed down during the inner monologue parts
Same
thats definitely how its supposed to be but this is also really funny LOLL
Especially since humans can think insanely fast, the reason all media makes it so slow is so human thoughts can be understood
Yeah!
Or that at least the thoughts/thinking are roughly double the actual speed.
It's actually quite calming to watch them just normally interact
That's what other people see but in between the 2 of them it's a constant battle to see who slips up heavily first and constantly trying to give each other a hard time
@@UnkownUnkown01 I wonder how it would look like if you watched it the first time with all internal monologues cut. Would you still get the tension given they always act so calm on the outside but you still see what both sides do
@@tomlxyzI’ve never seen Death Note before this clip. From this clip they sound like friends taking an IQ test. Only thing that makes me think there’s something going on is how curt the curled up guy talks. Makes it sound like he knows something the other doesn’t, but this could be chalked up to him being the straight man in the duo. I agree this does seem really calming, funny knowing how crazy the show is supposed to be
@@SporkEnthusiastthat is more or less a proper assessment of this situation while have it being accurate to its lore..Idr all of or even a lot of details of D note but I’d rewatch a monolouge’less version lol
Agreed, it's weirdly soothing when you don't see the constant inner turmoil.
They're so polite, allowing eachother to gather their thoughts before speaking
No rushing for response whatsoever
ikr its the way i wish people would behave themselves irl around me.
like whats the rush.
why cant people enjoy silence, and save all their rambling for text. in text it wont go nowhere. its eternalized. its noiseless. you can read or not read it at liesure.
but speaking is noise
it is a thought interrupter
if you have too much outer dialogue, you have little internal dialogue. vice versa. But having internal dialogue means you can think, and would be better at planning, and these 2 guys are smart n trying to play mental chess
so in this situation they have to play smart, and speak this way because they have to.
But honestly its a polite way to converse in general.
People should be allowed time to meditate so that they can keep the unutterable unuttered, unexplainable unexplained, save you the bullshit and only vocalize the key point without an "uh" or stutter. Some people repeat themselves and say the same thing in 3 different ways over the course of a minute because they are using outer dialogue to simulate the main point in the same way inner dialogue could've simulated it. If they are outer only, it seems they are making noise because they legitimately are addicted to hearing their own voice. They end up in a loop where they are stuck on a thought because it keeps being externally casted instead of being left in the mental oven to develop and finish cooking, but they don't want the thought to cook because it means they no longer have whitenoise in their surrounding air.
Its amazing to me how I can spend six hours with someone in person
and they will speak a gillion words a minute, and by the end of the night , I realized there is not a damn thing that person said of substance.
in contrast
someone can only speak a phrase to me at a certain point in time. When it becomes relevant again, I remember it up to 20 years later like they had just got done saying it.
It takes more time to speak and listen to others speak than it does to type and read. Little known fact.
So why spend hours talking about nothing? When you could type SOMETHING?
Making sounds with your mouth just for the sake of it isn't human communication.
It is reasons like this I hate hanging out with a large crowd of friends. All of us could be intelligent in our own ways and interesting well spoken people. Put each other in a group and all we can seem to talk about is the same inane drivel we could've talked about with any other crowd and the entire night is just pointless jibber jabber smalltalk and "iknoooowwwriiiiiiite?!?!" And giggling at things that weren't funny because the Big Bang Theory Laugh Track has wormed it's way into unconscious behavioral patterns deep within our NPC code; laughing at our own jokes to hint at others a sense of "that was a punchline btw"
@@fluffypinkpandas damn you are cool.
@@fluffypinkpandas i’ve always said this and believed it. you described it very good. you are intelligient
@@fluffypinkpandas On one hand, I too wish people would shut up and let me think.
On the other, damn bro you just typed a whole essay. Did the text version of what you hate.
@@littlemoth4956 "and save all their rambling for text. in text it wont go nowhere. its eternalized. its noiseless. you can read or not read it at liesure" i do still think that person is corny though
The anime equivalent of sitcoms without the laugh track.
BAZINGA!
@@smokeweebs8700 bazinga
@@plutonash2545 bazinga
@@lilttiger bazinga
@NobodySuspiciousHere bazinga
The way he looked just straight up mad at L, when he pulled 4th note
🤣🤣🤣
He was like bitch, I didn’t write no fourth note
Now I want to see the potato chip scene without internal monologues
I think about that scene a lot
there actually is a vid of that exact scenario lol
The only problem with that is that it is the "I'll take a chip, and EAT IT!!" That makes that scene so funny
@alexisz5570 I too think of that scene randomly way more than I need to.
Man just hit mute
first date kinda nervous
❤❤❤💜 v e r y g o o d ❤❤❤ who who😊😊😊😅
real
I rub my big toes together on the first date too. Silly nervous habit.
😂😂
💀💀💀
Bro it’s so awkwardly funny when they don’t speak and just look at each other.
Do you know why? Because the show is made to include those inner monologues, not to look and sound lika a natural interaction
@@xiiir838Good job bro you are a genius 👏🎉
@@ambasing69 thanks man. I hope these people would see the obvious and stop making stup'd comments on how things are ridiculous when they're meant to be ridiculous
@@xiiir838you must be fun at parties
@@xiiir838Sorry man, they were being sarcastic. You were the one who missed the joke.
01:59 Light's face is so funny, he looks like the "no talk me, I'm angy >:c" kitty
Aaww
Girl what
cheeseburger alert
You made it cute!!
Damn ngl he doesn't seem like such a good liar without him constantly telling the audience how good he is
Trueee
Yup, it’s called an “unreliable narrator”
He walks into obvious traps, dudes a moron
@@cjboyoI'm not sure that applies here at all lol you might want to google that again
Light is a good at lying and manipulating. That's why he got away with it for so long in the show. It's just that without the monologue this feels less like anime and more like 'real life'. It makes it awkward as hell
Light also isn't a narrator. I understand your confusion though
>While the protagonist isn’t shown to be an unreliable narrator, the possibility of bias for his own actions does exist.
@@Verzam420 He is the narrator. He’s the POV character and his perspective is the only one we see as an audience.
This makes it feel like a Telltale game and Light is taking his time choosing the options
I wish there were more telltale games so much potential
@@mehgamermehgamer6746 too bad they went bankrupt
@@therabbit555 And they resurrected didnt you knew?
......
Shepard: I should go
@@therabbit555 They're backk
I want the entire show to be like this, would honestly be hilarious
pretty sure there would be entire episodes completely silent
@@Felipera_mostly silent episodes would be interesting
A 10min scene of him eating those potato chips 😂
I would really wonder how someone who's never seen the show would interpret everything that's going on, would it be even remotely possible to keep up
another really interesting thing would be, if someone cut out everything that L wasn't there to witness, so we would basically get the show exclusively from L's perspective
Wtf did you do to Brock😭
L:"Light, you are wrong."
Light: "😡..." (stares at him in awkward silence for 10 sec)
i can see why L thought he was suspicious
yeah, is always the quiet ones...
bro pauses for 30 seconds in between sentences and sends out the most calculated charismatic American psycho-type sentence, and he thinks he's slick. lmfao
@@YoursTruly78887 Is 30 seconds too long to read and analyze a note from a mysterious crime scene for you? It's probably because you're one of the smartest on this planet
@@Errors404 I was talking about the pauses afterwards when he’s getting pressed rather than the initial ones, those were pretty normal. Maybe even sus how with quick he was
@@YoursTruly78887Yes, because anime time is identical to reality time. Great deduction
Bro looks so insanely guilty no wonder L knew lmao
Hahaha fr but in the anime world time just slows down when you’re in an inner monologue.
I have this overwhelming urge to rewatch death note
@@falsedamage I get that like every month. Not enough shows about two dudes trying to outplay each other
@@SkittlesInYourHand My friend told me the live action is really good tho so I might try it
@@falsedamage the live action is garbage
I want to watch the whole show like this, from L's perspective. Then we could see how innocent Light came off as.
A version with only L's thoughts, a version with only Lights thoughts, and a version with neither. Those would be amazing to watch.
@@nef36 you're on to something
That sounds like it would ve so cool. XD
Well L ain't no good person as well
@@agilraj1145It's been so long I can't remember if that's so
Light: =__________________________=
Light: ... You got me there 😅
Just the popular smart kid and the less popular smart kid getting paired up for an essay.
😂😂😂😂
Real
L's deduction:
1) light is kira
2)light has a brain tumor and should really get that checked out.
3)light enjoys long awkward pauses.
Light's deduction L does not enjoy any kind of pauses he only stops at the very end of a thought.
lol yeah
I mean there's a gay christian LxLight fanfic that goes exactly like option (2) 😭
@@ben-oz9fj what 😭
@@ben-oz9fj what the actual- A GAY CHRISTIAN FANFICTION?
Without the internal monologue, Light sounds like he's been caught -- it's almost like a Columbo scene, where the detective very clearly *knows* he's interacting with the killer.
@Wind Rose The "red hands" bit reads like a direct implication L *knows* Light's playing games. He told Light there were letters, not how many, and implied it wasn't a full list, but Light immediately assembled a message that assumed the opposite. Who else but Kira could build *exactly* the correct message on their first try from incomplete information?
@@SlayerEndX13 Kira music plays
Also, what is a Columbo scene?
@@robologo Columbo is a detective show structured around the audience knowing who the murderer is and the detective, a shabby, socially awkward man with a glass eye, figures out how they did the murder. Usually, he does this by revealing a small piece of evidence, like some gum, or a bit of dust, or a small piece of hair. In this case, L's small piece of evidence was Light's assumption there were only three notes -- unlike in Columbo, however, L recognizes his evidence might not stand up in court. He admits there must be *zero* doubt if he nails Kira or his target gets off the hook.
tasteful Columbo enjoyer
@@faceless2302 yeah, just like Jotaro
He looks so awkward at 0:56 as if he's trying his best to act like it's not him who wrote those notes
Bro I’ve never seen death note before but the silence made brown haired dude look so damn guilty lmao
Why the hell haven’t you seen death note before! Are you a child?! Go watch it! 😂
It's weird I have told so many people I was rewatching the show after 10 years and they say "oh I never seen it" like HOW
As you can see, fans get a bit hyperbolic about it, but it really is a good, unique show. My wife has zero interest in anime and she watched it compulsively after I put on the first episode. It's just so refreshingly highbrow. No talking cats or giant swords, just a solid Moriarty/Holmes battle of wits.
Really weird to ask if someone is a child because they haven't seen an anime.
@@endxofxeternityunneeded comment
awkward ass date
exactly
They're so cute together
guy didn't even wear shoes to the date, maybe he's trying to reverse game? idk
fr they are so gay lol
@@pennywright3274 reverse game?
1:58 the 4-5 seconds of silence with lights low quality face staring at L is the funniest part of this whole thing
And the goofy agghhhhhhhrrr owwwww fuckkkkkkk ahhh synth kickin in at 2:00 lmao
>:/
for real 😭😭💀
I died laughing 🤣
He looks so angry 😭😭
I still can’t get over that toe shot 😭😭
The animators were WILD for that
I genuinely never realised the frames were so still. The act of just having audio really changes how I take in shows wow.
If you watch other anime, you’ll notice the same thing. Your eyes will be drawn to the character talking so you don’t notice how still the rest of the frame is.
He cut out a lot of stuff and froze on these frames since they relate to his inner monologue. Watch the actual episode, its cut completely different
Imagine watching One Piece without the music
Subtitles fill a lot of our attention although this version is dub.
You should watch NGE and their 30-60" scenes with one frame...
The silence at 1:53 and then Light just looking up and staring daggers at L is way too funny without the internal monologue😂
Is the Best fuck You stare, it makes Light look like a dumb teen, is interesting how not being able to listen how he explains his actions how Bad he actually is to hide his emotions
"Well i never! >:["
@@DoctorFailhonestly lmao he looks like he is offended more than he looks mad
He looked like "Damn, why didn't you give me all the letters in the first place then?"
he kinda looks like when peppa pig gets annoyed 🤷♂️
I thought the internal monologue segments would be cut out completely, to make one seamless conversation. I always assumed that's how it was happening; most people can think faster than they speak. But this is *way* funnier.
That's what I assumed too. The only reason it feels more awkward and less natural is cos they literally are making it seem like a person can't think and do/say things at the same time. Obviously a person isn't gonna literally have a lengthy internal conversation with themself while in a social setting with another person.
But I agree this is hilarious
I assume that’s how it’s meant to play out in the show his monologuing/thinking is happening within seconds, and it only takes as long as it does for us. Since it’s normal for anime to say “5 for seconds till this happens” and you skip 15 second and they still have more time left
@@Strip4Dreezylol oh yeah, man I hate when characters do that 😂 “we only have a few seconds to stop this literal world ending event, omg hurry!!!” Then the actual pacing is like 40 seconds of long dramatic pauses and holds on their expressions. It really takes away from the tension for me which is ironically the exact opposite of what they’re trying to do 😂
@@mimthyss At the top of the episode when characters say something bad is going to happen in five minutes, then at the end of the 23 minute episode you end on a cliffhanger where the bad thing is just about to happen.
@@mimthyssLike when frieza said namek was going to explode in 5 minutes and their fight took like 20 episodes
He’s just standing there… menacingly💀
Stares at the notes, immediately tells L the secret code, gets given a fake note and visibly reacts like “wait I didn’t write that one”
Master of deception at work here
To be honest it was very good bait. Light obviously tried to be helpful and gave L what he wanted, he surely underestimated him again and got punished for it. But moments like this made this show awesome. One mistake and it could be over.
I mean it kinda just looks like a basic ass way to encode messages that anyone could figure out and he went for the most logical option of hidden message that worked, that's how I would've solved the 3 letters myself even if I wasnt kira
@@goldenweeb2081 true, what makes light look guilty here is the "it would be interesting to learn if kira could control his victim's actions" line.
He reacted to being wrong and not the 4th letter. His reaction comes before L mentions or pulls out the letter. Which means L sees light was certain of his answer rather than just being surprised by the last letter. Everyone else would’ve been open to the possibility of having been wrong
@@salehaljalal7893 except a narcissist, like kira was
as someone who hasn't watched the show, this is incredibly funny to me
two guys look at each other, one reads some letters, and then goes "hey there's a secret message!" and other one goes "L bozo, there was an extra letter i didn't tell you about get owned"
that’s basically the show anyway
Never watched this show either aha
It's a great show with a questionable ending. I wish i could watch it again for the first time.
That's giving me "Updated autopsy report (Ace attorney Edgeworth)" energy lmao
Is it just me being a dumbass or did OP get L and Light's names mixed up?
The silence and eye narrowing when Light realizes L caught him in a mistake somehow works even better without the monologue. Even without words, you can tell exactly what he's thinking.
yeah...
"fuuuuuuuuuuuck!"
Yeah it adds subtlety
No, I can't tell.
@@angelsadventure4996 You probably are young, give it some years and It will be blatantly obvious, my case atleast
The music got me
the first time i watched death note i was so baffled at how L knew light was kira but after watching stuff like this i get it 😭
It’s a bit amazing seeing how fast their deductive skills are in real time
Especially Light who is basically just a college student compared to a guy that has been working since he was 8
@@SirToaster9330fr L just has more experience, Light is actually more intelligent if they started off with the same level
@@ErenAhmedKhanno light kept making dumb mistakes like this over and over again
@@danielprince2548 I mean Light actually figured out What L was thinking several times lmao
@@BasicallynoOneAtAll L never actually figured out that light but had a strong doubt lmao...Even we heard it in his ep 9 monologue. The fact L cannot catch light shows more enough that light is good
This scene actually feels smarter without the internal dialogue.
Works for most anime. Most inner monologues in anime kinda treat their audience like children by giving throughout explanation. Without it there's more space for the audience to come up with theories and explanations
@randomassjellyfish well granted Shonen jump target audience is middle schoolers and early high schoolers that makes sense.
@@randomassjellyfish
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@randomassjellyfishbut they need to get the point across to move the plot. If the entire show made the audience make their own theories, the show would fall.
I don't think the whole show would work without internal dialogue. Some of the resolutions Light and L come up with would make 99% of the audience be extremely confused, people would need to pause and figure it out.
Light: It's a good thing I can think 4 times faster than the average adult, this gives me plenty of time to properly analyze the situation without raising suspicion.
L: I've never been forced to make direct eye contact with someone this long. Please Kira, end my suffering.
poor L
L is my AuDHD spirit animal
@@madeliner1682 L is awesome but i would never let a dude with this posture be my spirit animal
@@zetasann spirit ANIMAL
@@zetasann lmfao
Instead of "you got me there," he should've admitted his supposed mistake. "I guess that means I'm too eager to settle with answers I like without considering alternatives."
I like how without the intense inner psychopath dialogue they both look like genius but socially awkward college kids. Seriously, Light sounds and looks just like some harmless good kid talking over coffee. That is, until L calls him out on the fourth note thing and his eyes narrow and the scene feels a lot colder for a split second, then from L's perspective it becomes a lot more feasible that this is definitely the psycho murderer they're looking for.
Like others have said, a remake from L's perspective would be a lot of fun to watch.
Honestly that part of the scene didn't give me psycho vibes at all lol.
It's just like he's going "Is this guy fucking serious??? OOoohhHhh AcTuAlLy ThErE aRe 4 LeTtErS~ Give me all 4 letters from the start then asshole!" in his head.
But he's too polite/repressed to actually say it so he just let's L "win" this one.
(Like I know he's actually Kira and was doing an evil monologue, but just from this? Nah he just seems sick of this weirdo playing mindgames.)
I mean even if I am not Kira and suddenly someone asks me about something like this, gives a pretty good answer hoping to impress them with my negligible deductive skills, then they just said "there's actually a 4th letter", I'll definitely be dissatisfied myself lmao.
there's a short novel called LA BB Murder Case, or something like that, you should give that a read
@@sixjhontongalamar979 It mostly doesn't work the same in english, they needed to use a different sentence example. With the Japanese, it should have been reasonable to look at the numbers on the back, say that then the sentence doesn't make sense and therefore there might be another card that makes it make sense
@@decus478 but it makes sense after rearranging the letters no? If it works within the given clues, would everyone really assume that there's a fourth clue?
As I've said, negligible deductive skills. Don't push my brain too hard xD
1:55 from the stare to the look of anger when L says he’s wrong is too funny to me
Fr he was like 'bro'😕
@@meriewandererbro 😂
He fr said “Boy wtf that ain’t how this works”
L was seriously into feeling vibes. He’s only half listening. He’s watching…
This scene actually got really tense. It's up to you to interpret what they're thinking woah
No. It’s up to us to interpret what they’re thinking woah
Making out on the spot?
@@MrEquusQuagga no its up to me
@@TheFernandinho I'd like to think it's up to God, _whomst_ gave his only begotten son so you could live without sin.
Shout out to Jesus Christ everybody! 👏🏾 👏🏾
@@babidavi6910may Allah guide you
I'll never forget the moment I realized that L basically said he caught Light red handed in this scene. It was an amazing subtlety.
O
How does this scene “catch” light?
@@Chiara-ep5er he responded with full confidence to the correct thing that Kira did, and his off guard reaction was consistent with being exposed and indignant that L "ruined Kira's masterpiece".
@@Chiara-ep5er I believe the fourth letter was fake, and Kira did not consider it because he didn't write it.
L produces it to show, how can you be so sure there are only 3 letters? Because he have only written 3 at that moment.
wow, good catch
I love Light's little angry face. He's so angry a third of his mouth disappeared.
He was totally pouting lol
U sound gay asf lil bro
Timestamp
@@lilbabytears 1:58
@@lilbabytears 2:00-2:06
This is actually one of those scenes which make enough sense without the inner monologue, because he's reading the letter
This edit is so fascinating. Light's instability is obvious to anyone who can hear him but he plays it perfectly straight in his interactions with others....or so we're conditioned to think. He really does look hella guilty in this light (Pun unintended).
He really looked like a criminal but not in an obvious way. It's in the subtle way his face changes responding to situations. His almost annoyed or dismissive staring even when from Ls perspective he's done nothing to annoy him.
Its so true, in the anime it always seemed like you needed to be as smart as L to notice, but even a child could gasp his fakes and weird reactions
hmm
@@OnePieceSS23 But that's mostly because they need to show him with some reaction, after all it's a show and they need dramatic scenes. If Light existed IRL and were as smart and cunning as he's supposed to be in the anime/manga, he probably wouldn't react at all, but that would be boring for an anime, as the point of these scenes is precisely to show the internal monologue and what's going on in the characters' heads. The creators show that through expressions and reactions and they are supposed to be exaggerated.
i don't see it he just looks normal he only looks guilty cause you know hes guilty
they seem so chill and relaxed without the monologuing
Light, internally "is actuay writing a thesis and developing complex mindmaps for the most natural non-suspicious answer at top speed, brain operating in overclock"
Light: I dunno
L: "You can take as long as you want..."
Light: "I WILL TAKE YOU UP ON THAT OFFER".
Hiiiiiiiii thereee😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤
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in reality L would never be able to find out who the kira is
*stares blankly at same spot in paper without moving eyes or blinking*
I can take as long as I want? Ok, let me sleep on it then. My subconscious brain comes up with stuff sometimes that I'd never think of when actively trying.
seriosuly tho- the brain’s thoughts can move faster than normal talking, and so really, the long pausing would realistically be just a small moment.
This scene is so smart is holds up completely even without the monologues. Obviously, it would be terrible writing to have your characters sitting there reading in silence, but it's 100% true to life. The only issue is Light's eyes not moving at all.
True, but when you think about the eyes it could just as well fit with the context of the scene; Light already knows what the notes say, and part of his loss to L's trick is that he responds as if he does
@@SAIMONch The animators could have at least made him blink or shuffle the 3 papers around while he was reading. Tiny bits of animation can add a lot and not make it look like a still painting.
@@SAIMONch Reading that I could just hear L's voice in my head, calmly observing, "Hmmm, I notice your eyes are not moving, as if you already know what the notes say..."
animes are basicallty paintings lol@@SebastienGendron-uk4po
I don't think it would be terrible writing tbh. That scene is tense and really interesting
2:23 I love how there's an inner monologue going but to L he's just giving him the Sigma stare
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2:27 who is bro mewing for 💀🙏
2:25 imagine light looking silently at you like that for 10 seconds. Looks really suspicious for me
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with a dope bass track
I feel like it just makes light seem like he hates losing which tbh he does which made L suspect him some more
@@averageazraelno,sorry
Perfect meme material, comedy gold
I had a job interview recently (and got the job!) which required reading over some legal jargon related to the job and trying to deduce what it meant. Felt exactly like this.
yeah its totally normal to read something carefully that is important
Me, listening to Light's internal monologues in the show: ah, that thought process makes sense. Surely you'll be less suspicious if you say that.
Me, hearing Light's responses without the internal monologue: what the fuck.
Its interesting, the internal monologues sort of normalize Light to the viewer, and make the battle of wits feel much more even. When you remove the connection to Light and see him objectively like this though, it makes him seem far more suspicious and less proficient. L really was running circles around him.
Tbh like this the cat and mouse game becomes even clearer. L was running circles around him but Light still said stuff like at the end of the clip abt making Kira say something only he could know, cuz he knows L can’t know about the death note
Inner monologues arguably made it even worse. Light is so confident and knows what to say. Then L just beats him at it like a child. In this scene L was the one who had Light in his grasp. If he was willing to risk, he could capture him and Misa right now. He didn't know who is the second Kira, but a wild guess would prove correct when the killings would stop and never continue. L could even guess that Light keeps the note in a special place which would destroy it if you don't know how to operate the lock. And find a way to retrieve it carefully. Then everything would be over.
@@АлексейКазаков-и5ц That's a lot of wild guessing to do.
@@АлексейКазаков-и5ц Could L really guess about the exploding drawer thing...? I guess stranger things _have_ happened.
@@azearaazymoto461 tbh wild guessing is kind of how L rolls. The killings happen on weekdays = Kira must be a student. Kira changed his schedule = Kira must be connected to the police somehow. And voila we've narrowed it to like 50 people. And those early assumptions are literally never revisited. Meanwhile during scenes like this that make Light look guilty as hell L is like "hmm i guess this makes you like 2% more likely to be kira, anyway wanna join the investigation team?"
Kira sounds like a genius with the internal monologue but without it it sounds like he’s going “well I have a suspiciously detailed explanation of this evidence of who could Kira be”
2:43 SUBTITLES: If you were me faced with someone who might be *cuter*. I am dying XDD
0:44 L is prob sleep at this point
Not with all the sugar he eats 😂
Now we can experience this conversation as if we're eavesdropping from a few tables away
L: Actually youre wrong
Light: 😡
**Light will remember that**
Toe scratch
I love that emoji
JAJJAAJAJAJJAJA
I mean I’d be pissed too 😂
here's the thing, that kind of pause isn't actually that unreasonable. Especially if you're supposed to be reading the notes for the first time and trying to consider and compare alternative explanations.
This. Plus it is a puzzle….. normal person would get hang up for 30 minutes
"So what do you make of that?"
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"Well you got me!"
That laugh delay was soooo uncomfortably long. *chef's kiss*
"I didnt think of another letter because I only wrote three, because of that"
@@sandromateus9274 That's what L wanted Light to say, right? That didn't go well, even if it's obvious it was him. He did "notice" the hidden message though
Walt Whitman.... Walter .. White ?
✋🏼😮✋🏼 you got me
@@wtftelex actually its ''Willy Wonka? Walter White?'' but you're close enough
even without the internal monologue you can tell how narcissistic light truly is "I had perfect reasoning even without the fourth note" ,, like bro even if u did
@@adairarae rukia is dose like me Oh dear We Going Die
he’s the ruler of their game of course his reasoning was perfect
POV: You are Ryuk
PFFFT
"Ningen wa omoshiroi"
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😶🤔 light? It's not rocket science... Yknow i should stay quiet..
This turned into Death Note: The Indie Film.
Hey, man are you the killer
Naw bro. You wanna get ice cream and hit some narley waves after?
Bet
He seems like a genius analizing something he is excited about. Impressive really. Innocent even.
Light's expression at 1:59 after being told there were 4 instead of 3 is perfect to show his dissatisfaction for L's deceit lol
Whole lotta "listen here you little shit" vibes going on
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I'M CRYING LMAOOO
HE'S THAT ONE MEME WITH THE BALD MAN WHO STANDS THERE WITH HIS KNUCKLES ON HIS HIPS, STARING AT LIKE 😐😐😐
That was my absolute favorite moment in this video. *He's so upset* and we just get to stare at that
@@scan_dinav THAT'S IT I KNEW IT LOOKED FAMILIAR
The most suspicious thing is the fact he doesn't express surprise or revulsion at what he's looking at or ask L any questions about them. The way he says they're "interesting" makes him seem way too familiar with them, the fact he "deduced" the exact scenario Kira faced L with almost instantly is just a huge nail in Lights coffin.
I don't think so. To me, this was a test within a test. On the surface, L is testing Light's deductive reasoning. After all, being interested in becoming a detective as a gifted, brilliant highschool student makes his interest and lack of revulsion seem fine.
The real test though, to L, is figuring out if Light's personality and ego match that of what he's deduced Kira's to be. That's why he tells Light that he got the question wrong. If Light is Kira, or if he really is just a gifted student, he figures out the puzzle correctly. Fine. But if he reacts defensively (my deduction was perfect), especially under the immense pressure of "revealing something only Kira could know," his personality and ego match that of Kira's. Light isn't dumb, he sees this coming and concedes the test appropriately. But his first instinct, the one L is looking for, is to get defensive.
He can't hang Light with this. As he points out later in the same conversation, Light's odds of being Kira to L only go up a couple of points here. But if you're L, faced with a killing power unlike anything seen in human history that allows for total anonymity*, this is a MAJOR win in his book.
@@LonnyH that’s good! i didn’t think about that!! it’s a personality not a logical test
@@LonnyH Also Light is normally smart enough to at least ask about whether a missing piece could exist, him never even considering it a possibility is too much of a "normie" mistake to make (just taking the information as presented without sensing a trick). At best, Light isn't as smart as he seemed, and at worst, he knew there weren't any more letters because he wrote them.
@@LonnyH The actual test was that Kira actually wrote those first 3 messages. The fourth one is fake. At this point L knew Kira's personality very well, so he made a trap for Light.
He gave Light notes numbered 1 to 3. If Light had no previous knowledge of those notes, the first thing he would be expected to try is to order them 1 to 3. That would leave an incomplete message. If he ordered them correctly, however, he would get a sentence that makes sense. As such, if Light had no previous knowledge, his best possible answer would be "These messages are encoded, if you arrange them by what makes sense, it reads as follows, but if you order them by the numbers on the back the message seems incomplete. Either these numbers were another misdirection, or they have another meaning, or there is a fourth message that wasn't found".
But, Light is Kira so he KNOWS there is no fourth message. Thus, he makes the careless mistake of taking that knowledge only Kira should have into account. Because he knows he only wrote 3, there is no possible fourth message. The only correct order is the one that makes gramatical sense, and the numbers were a misdirection made by L. But that's a conclusion only Kira could reach, no other sane person who could figure out that much would make such a wild assumption at the expense of clear evidence.
To add salt to injury, Light argues back. He feels cheated because he knows there is no fourth message, and his childish side doesn't accept "losing" that little game in such an unfair way.
Of course, Light manages to slip out of this situation, and none of it was sufficient conclusive evidence that Light was Kira. Even if absolutely small, there was the chance that Light simply made a mistake and believed that L gave him all the information, and then was angry to fail. it's not as if only Kira and L are childish. But it does help to justify L's belief and his later actions.
It is pretty odd that he doesnt act surprised seeing random heart attack victims all writing messages that can be read in a way that seems intentional
Now I want to see what the whole show is like without internal monologues for a good 20 something episodes but not really anything over 30
Me too, that would be hilarious
Without the internal monologues the show would probably be 25% shorter at least lol
Just bunch of awkwarf silences
@@RahulSharma-ot3wo Just like real life!
Ryuk's laugh has to stay though. Oddly enough it's even more fitting for him instead of just laying on the bed like a deadbeat roommate.
"something that only kira could know"
yeah like what a god of death looks like
2:12 schlawg we didnt need to see a close up of Ls feet
LMAOOO
we did
i needed it
foot cam
Speak for yourself
A simple explanation that doesn’t make it more complicated than it is:
Essentially… Only three notes were left by Kira, and only Kira himself, the police, and L know that, no-one else should know for-certain how many notes Kira left. So, anyone else would see the three-notes and realize that, when placed in numerical-order, the message is incomplete, so they’d probably ask if there was a fourth-note. However, since Light IS Kira, he knows there are only three-notes and that they aren’t intended to be read in numerical-order. So instead of asking if there are more-notes he says, “The numerical-order doesn’t make sense, Kira must’ve made a mistake and you have to read them out of order to get the message.” (Solving the message of the three-notes, while using reasoning to not seem suspicious). However, L pulls out a fourth-note. This is actually a fake-note, but if Light were innocent he wouldn’t know that. The fourth-note, when placed in numerical-order with the others, finishes the message. L then goes, “If you weren’t Kira, you would’ve asked if there was a fourth-note to finish the sentence. However, you seemed certain that there were only three-notes, and that the sentence HAD to make sense using only those three-notes. Only Kira, the police, and I know there are only three-notes, so you must be Kira.”
This is what people who think that this test is dumb is missing. L tells Light that these notes were written by criminals under the control of Kira which could imply that these are the only notes they got SO FAR. Meaning, they could potentially get more.
Honestly, the smart move for Light would be to ask what the numbers mean or where they are from since L did say they were photographed. It's pretty important since it could indicate the order Kira wanted the notes to be read in or what the police thinks the correct order should be. This could also provide a better reason/excuse as to why Light disregarded the numerical order version.
@@natperXD The main point is that Light fucked up. He slipped because it's REALLY hard to think not using all knowledge at your disposal. To make matters worse, Light is really childish and likes to win, so when L blatantly "cheats" on his face, he gets mad and defensive.
@@natperXD Light could have also just asked "are these all of them?" "So these are all the notes?" Instead of assuming L wouldn't make a fake note.
I disagree. When I get something from a colleague or whomever, I try to make sense of what's in front of me. Considering a possible missing message doesn't always cross my mind. So, to me, the fact that Light doesn't consider more messages is proof of nothing.
@@moneymo6417 yes, but Light from the outside does not even consider the possibility and he is not a just normal person like us who just do a puzzle or something like that, I think a skill detective will at least think about that possibility, and L say that he made this test with other detectives so probably has a even more perspectives
2:02 he sounds so offended lol. Maybe I'm just gullible, but without the internal monologue he plays idiot so well I'd buy it
Voice actor is amazing
It feels kinda weird not having their internal monologues like the scene still makes sense without them but without the internal monologue you're missing the actual intent and thinking and reasoning of both the characters it's just real strange
Thats the point...
@@shrimpgaming1749 I know
The reason there are long pauses is for the viewer to understand their thought process, in real time there would probably be less time between the dialogues
Kinda reminds me of the elevator scene from nge
Imo, it makes sense for Light to have an irl pause here bc he's trying his best to appear normal even though he's a genius. If anything, while it is a little long, his pause makes perfect sense as he's trying to maintain that facade of a "junior detective", so to speak.
There’s something so interesting about the subtlety of the conversation without the monologue though. L producing the fourth letter really is a good catch. If Light was intuitive enough to figure out what the letters mean you’d think he’d at least ask if there was more, him dodging it completely is more indicative of him playing into an answer than actually considering anything.
When You say it like that it makes a Lot of sense, I've always thought that this was so L could catch Light being anoyed at the fact of having a famous detective saying he was wrong, but now I can see that it can be mixed with L checking if he was gonna get to the conclusión that fast
Not to disparage your argument but your statement of “if Light was intuitive enough to figure out what the letters mean” is flawed. Light was the one who made them write the letters so he is the one who truly understands the meaning.
The reason he didn’t ask for more was because he himself knew that there wasn’t more which was entirely the point of L’s trap in this scene, because only Kira himself would know for certain that there were only 3 notes
@@villagersupremacy5594and also mainly cos the sentence was incomplete the order in which that L put them forward. Instead of asking “are you sure there weren’t anymore photos?” He assumes they were the only ones and decides to correct the sentence using the photos. Only Kira knows the original sentence regardless of what order L showed it to him. Kira being Light, he slipped up and showed the correct way.
@@w2174 exactly
But since Light wrote the letters he'd intended there to be 3; why would a normal person think there would be 4? 😭
The moment Light insists that his deduction was “perfect” with the three photos he was given further solidifies how much Light matches L’s profile of Kira; “childish and hates losing”, just like L himself. At this point, L was actually completely certain that Light was Kira, but objectively speaking, only had 7% of the evidence he needed to make that call.
Apparently, when he throws out numbers like “7%,” he’s actually hella convinced. So by this point, in his head, he’s most likely looking at Kira. He needs a good reason to let go, otherwise. But he’s stubborn (and smart enough to be correct early)
@@ron4tronto be fair, when you’re in a district of tens of millions, 7% for one person is RIDICULOUSLY high.
@@iheartblock3792 It is, but iirc, the mangaka's confirmed that L lies when he says that. He tells people what they want to believe, where 7% would probably put them on guard, but not have them believe that L's totally onto them.
@@ron4tronHe didn't said it, tho. That was a thought of L. He told Light he had 1% sure it was him.
@@joseantoniorodrigueslopes6979 He brings up the % multiple times in the story, saying it aloud. Both to Light and the investigation team, iirc.
Either way, the mangaka himself confirmed these were lies:
_Although L tells Light that he is among the least likely suspects with one of the lowest percentages of probability, in reality L is "pretty certain" that Light is Kira. As series writer Tsugumi Ohba said laughing, making light of L's tactics: "The truth is, he's a liar."_
bare feet in a public cafe is diabolical and I will not stand for this.
This scene is actually genius. If L had continued, Light would've been caught right there. He presents 3 photos trying to see if Light slips and tells something the public couldn't know. Light is well aware of that so he tries to play safe. The genius is that L is aware that Light, if Kira, is well aware of L's perceived attempt, and moves accordingly through the scene.
So L presents 3 photos. Light, if Kira, wants to get in the task force to get L's identity, so he needs to impress him, but at the same time doesn't want to be cornered. So Light doesn't easily give the true hidden message, as he realizes the pages numbers were a trap set by L (only Kira would straight disregard the fake numbering). Though, because he's petty and competitive, and wants to join, he still gives the true message with the caveat of believing the "true" numbering renders them wrong (which would imply Kira is dumb and got sloppy with his 3 part letters). Arrogantly, he believes he just did a good job there.
Then L shits on him and throws one out a left field: a 4th fake picture, and asks "why were you so certain there were only 3 pics in the first place?🤔" So either Light says the fourth is a fake (and game's over), or he admits he was indeed acting under a suspicious certainty that there were only 3 pics - that was the true trap, not the numbers. He's mad cornered already, but it doesn't stop there.
L then says "You know what? This whole routine I did, I also've done it to all task members, but you're the only one who deduced everything so fast". Light was soo busy trying to not slip in front of L's traps, that he forgot to act his age and occupation (student), outpacing every professional in a special task force. That was another metatrap going on from the start.
Light even says "well, I sure look suspicious now, ain't I?", and starts to back off from the corner he's in. He tries to _deflect_ by saying "but this information doesn't help catching Kira anyways so..", but L ain't done and straight out throws another bone: "I want you in the secret task force, where you can get close to my name and identity".
Light, fumbled, has to either deny but not for no reason, or has to accept, but not too eagerly. So he opts to deny, justifying "I would, but I don't want to be at risk.. cus maybe _you're_ Kira". He goes in a whole rant of misdirection here to paint L as Kira, as an attempt to both deflect the corner he's in and to parse out if this dude is truly L or just sent by him. "You won't even show me the team or if you, Ryuuka, is truly L, or if L's really there, just because I can't prove you I ain't Kira. So nah, the deal is off". L, though, ain't done profiling, so he says "wait.. I don't remember ever saying I wouldn't show you the team. In fact, I'l take you there right now if you say you want it". Kira didn't know how to act and was saved by his dad having a random heart attack, ending L's barrage. L and Kira are not equals in intellect at all, L was just working against paranormal bs.
(Edit: eh, should've done this sooner, but for the ones who're still confused about the incomplete phrase, look at Linh Miu comment on the Japanese grammar)
I hate that this comment explaining this scene has no replies. So I’ll be the first.
You wrote an entire college discussion and I respect it. That was a great analysis of the scene, maybe I'll show it people who still say this scene was pointless
Beautiful analysis, really peeled back the layers for me. I never realized this scene ran THAT deep. Thank you!
One of the best analyses of this scene I have seen. Made me realize how Light would be toast
Considering he only gave him 3 pictures I'm pretty sure it would be normal to assume there should only be 3. Being suspicious of him for not thinking there was more is a bit of a reach. And you're forgetting that Light literally wants L to think he's Kira but just not be able to prove it, so he has no problem showing off how smart he is.
Holy shit this helps a lot to understand the scene actually. L stressing over the fact that why didn't Light ask whether there is any more notes, but instead assuming there are ONLY three notes /is/ his trap, not the fact that he could arrange the message in a certain way. Never noticed it before, brilliant.
Also the little dig about being caught 'red handed'.
So he’s using psychology smart except even he knew no conclusive answer or proof even though suspicious they both won’t give info not available but he’s seeing how he interacts
I think the scene already explains this reasoning well, and I had no problem with it, but yeah, it becomes more obvious like this
It probably helped raise his suspicion levels, but they were already about as high as they could be without having concrete evidence. And Light's reasoning did in fact make sense. L is really just feeling Light out. There's no trap, that would imply that this interaction proves anything.
Why would _anybody_ assume there's more notes? The only reason you would assume there's more notes is if you would assume L was deliberately trying to pull a fast one on you. And why would an innocent person assume that?
I always assumed that the inner monologues take up about a second in their time, and are just slowed down and articulated for the audience. Basically time "freezes" so that we can get the thought processes spelled out to us the dumb dumb audience, but because these two are geniuses, the actual monologue happens in a flash, so no awkward pauses like this... just my thoughts.
Edit: lots of pseudo-intellectuals in the responses, acting like this this an obvious assumption. My comment was not meant to be an "epithany" that I suddenly came to a day ago; thought going faster than speech is something I have been familiar with in media for quite some time, like Im sure many of you. Neither am I trying to criticize the video; it is a funny ass take on the matter, and I do not believe it's supposed to be a critique in itself either.
Edit 2: I am aware I mistyped epiphany, but Im not a coward so I wont edit it out.
yeah you're completely right
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You can see this is true when watching the scenes that involve intensely waiting looking at a watch and waiting for someone to die. A second passing on the watch actually takes several seconds of watching the show
Exactly
Exactly, it's anime time. Like Kishibe Rohan taking ten seconds to decide what to do in his 0.2 second reaction window.
I still can hear "Is He STUPID?" 😭
Watching the entire series like this must make it an entirely different experience
it would be unbearable to see how guilty light actually makes himself when he's not constantly talking about how good he is at lying 😭
If I wasent listening to light monologues and we followed Ls perspective this alone would make me 99% sure he was Kira
right like this scene alone exposed him so bad in my opinion. That’s why I liked L so much the whole show
If we take the second monologue's pause to a reasonable time frame in a verbal interactions(1, maybe 2 seconds max), then it's not outlandish enough to warrant serious suspicion. It definitely makes him a person of interest though!
@@agamemnonofmycenae5258 It's more how Kira answered like a whiny bitch that got exposed. Any other, normal person would've asked "wait, is that real? That's written in completely different font and looks fake as hell, no way that's the same guy right?
@@agamemnonofmycenae5258its probably not the real time most people can think why faster than they can talk
Honestly, other than the long pause after L told Light his deductions were wrong, this actually flowed surprisingly smoothly. Usually monologues in anime take super long because the words themselves distract the audience from how much time has passed.
The longest pause was Light studying the notes, which... yeah. It would take someone a while to read all the notes and notice the coded message if they were seeing it for the first time. Even the less long pause when L brings out the 4th note can be interpreted as a regular detective thinking about whether to confront L with the "Well, I assumed that as a fellow detective, you would share relevant evidence. Hiding evidence sounds like a Kira thing to do".
If you listen to Light dialogue that Kira is mocking L and that gods of death love apples. Light basically dropped the biggest hint to L.
Thinking for an eternity then proceeds to say
“well, I didn't think of that”
I didn't realise just how much of a menace L was without internal monologuew
Tbf like this, Light seems like an overeager teen that wants to help so badly he says anything that comes to mind.. which is pretty in-character for the son of a detective who also is smart.
L: is he trying to come up with the exact right answer?
Light: Hold on a sec L I'm monologuing a villain speech in my head right now.
Seriously though they both have them but this shows just how damn long and self-indulgent Light's are. You can barely tell L is thinking to himself
The internal monologues are presumed to be taking for way less time than perceived here as it's only stretched out for the sake of the audience hearing the explanation or context of the scene.
@@ipo7596 exactly.
And the thing is that in the manga, this would only take around 2 panels
But also this is probably a very normal amount time for someone to sit and think without talking, when given a puzzle like this to solve.
He was given three notes that had a secret message in them. Was he supposed to just notice this at a glance?
@@mynameisben123 Honeslty it should be 20-40 minutes of awkward silence and “well…. Maybe maybe…. Or maybe maybe…. Maybe…. Ugh….”
You know. How people solve puzzles WITHOUT knowing the answer beforehand?
If Light were so smart, he would have just pretended to be stupid.
Death Note but you are a guy in the booth next to the main characters
Light was just intensely FUMING. L was EATING good lmao
it really shows the tension happening in real time. We're usually so caught up in the monologue while viewing that seeing the scene actually play out from Ls perspective is really interesting
no it doesn't. the monologues don't happen in real time. which is why during monologues everything, including the rain falling in some scenes, completely stops.
npc pov when you are indecisive on the dialogue.
i just love how in 1:42 light just goes “:0”
You should do this with the tennis scene! That moment would be wildly different without the monologues
it would literally just be 2 dudes playing tennis lmao