Balloon Boy: Q & A
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 เม.ย. 2017
- After "Balloon Boy: The Untold Story" was posted on the main channel there were a lot of follow-up questions.
Here's a Q & A to address some of those.
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Polygraphs can only demonstrate a person's stress in response to questions, not the validity of their answers. It should never be used as evidence.
Rory Vazley Well, it can be used to support other evidence. It is an indication whether or not something is likely to be true or not.
Rory Vazley
Polygraphs are a fucking sham.
Not really , they are so easily beaten it's useless . It's not difficult for someone to calmly lie, especially if you knew it would keep you out of serious trouble and had time to practice (some people are good enough to beat it with no practice and zero military training on the subject). That is why they aren't admissible, that and the frequent false positives!
No More BS Please yeah that's true
Wrong. You underestimate the power of humanity's ability to lie.
when some guy who makes videos about 4chan history has better journalism morals than any other media
Welcome to "The Current Year".
I wonder why people in the media are so shitty. How owns the companies, what are their names?
here's a quote from a satire movie about medias:
"medias are sewage pumps, you just turn it on, and then sit there and watch the shit go".
they're just businesses, and how do business survive? by focusing on giving what sell
so they do that, they go for whatever stir the most shit and attention that give them the money, and what sell better than dominating negativity? so they keep at it, to hell the journalistic integrity!
And he's not getting paid for this.
Who owns them? Well a collection of different members of the tribe and Rupert Murdoch, who married into the tribe.
WRT mayumi's confession:
It's pretty much trivially easy to extract a confession from an innocent suspect if they don't have a lawyer present, just through confusing and pressuring them. Doubly so if they don't have english as their first language. Doubly doubly so if they're threatening you with deportation.
Remember, a police interrogator's job is presented to them as /extracting a confession/ rather than /finding out the truth/. They go in assuming the suspect is guilty and use all their tools to get them to confess.
That's really, really sad.
for real. _100%_ correct dude
Don't forget that they are allowed to lie. John Oliver did a piece on how fucked up the whole process is.
Now that Richard has reached out and fully explained his side, the chance of it being a hoax has decreased again in my opinion
Very true
yup. unequivocally perfect
Rich is a bad bad man and abused those poor boys.... very sad
if i wasnt an unemployed failure id totally support you on patreon dude. you're doing gods work son.
i donate a dollar a month cus im poor as fuck
V0lton Be successful is overrated. Life was better when I was a total fail. Now that I am about 60% successful, I am too tired to appreciate anything.
V0lton become a NEET
V0lton go get a job my boi
V0lton You're not a failure
Regarding the Mayumi interview, I've read on Quora that the Japanese people, unlike American people, are significantly more submissive towards police authority, to the point of confessing to crimes that they have not committed. This "respect" towards authority is deep-rooted in Japanese culture.
I thoroughly enjoyed all of your videos. Keep up the good work!
That's really odd, honestly.
that's some totallitarian shit dude!!!
Sheldon Ha ya it's a big problem in Japan. when people get arrested they don't even get to call anywhere who might provide an alibi
Confuzzled Tomato Hi Son.
Sheldon Ha In the US 90% of trials result in the defendant pleading guilty even when they're innocent. Plea bargains are so threatening that most people (again, 90%) are too scared to risk being found guilty and punished more severely
I'll confess. Evertime I see the face of the suttershock old man I here this voice.
Diego De Luque V
_Hide the pain Harold_
Hear*
When you spend time on memes but are secretly a smartass
It really sounds like this whole family has been tortured for years over a father’s very reasonable concern that his son was flying away and about to fall to his death. I wish the heenes the best and I don’t believe this was a hoax - they lost so much from this.
Well if it means anything, they were at least pardoned by the governor of Colorado
I appreciate that this video just starts. No bullshit introduction, or extended monologue explaining what the video is about. Straight to the point!
you're right. 110% true dude
Honestly, I love the funny videos you've done, and I think it's some of the best content in TH-cam. But this more analytical video blew my mind. It instantly become one of my favorite videos on this site, and I'd love to see one every now and again.
Rockstep Thanks, I really appreciate it!
Rockstep Thanks, I really appreciate it!
Rockstep Thanks, I really appreciate it!
Rockstep Thanks, I really appreciate it!
I'm used to the awesome recounts of internet phenomena from this channel, but the balloon boy video was exceptional because it made us be skeptical about a story that we had taken for granted for years. It was really exceptional investigative reporting, and I hope someone takes it up to look deeper into the facts of the situation so that we have a better picture of the truth of the matter.
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seventybroad Internet Dab haha
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Ah daddy broad
Internet bad
hey it’s that one guy
Damn man, your voice is so amazing
sometimes i can't tell if he's a posh australian or a german with really clear english
4chan Autism + Aesthetic Professionalism = Our Divine Leader
HangLooseMongoose Fuck Kim, this guy is where it's at!
cry w
who's kim?
Kim Jong Un
lolol excellent
PLEASE do more mysteries. That balloon boy video was fantastic. I love that I've found your channel and I can't wait for more great content.
Soliloquy - I find the Ballon Boy Mystery video was a happy accident. Like he said, he went into Ballon Boy thinking he was gonna make fun of him for five minutes. It just happened that the more he looked into things, the more interesting it got. It would be nice he made more Mystery vids though, it's just not something I think he could pump out as a series unlike his other videos simply recapping memes.
I agree, I just think it's good for the Historian to know we support this kind of work and if there's more accidents where he stumbles into this kind of work we still want to hear it
Soliloquy *memes
You are the Best thing on youtube at the Moment. Thanks for the great work!
Internet Historian, Count Dankula and Chris Ray Gun are all pretty fantastic.
I saw the footage of Heene chasing after that balloon and his panic and effort he put forward to catch that balloon indicates to me that he really believed his son was in it.
"Aim to make two a week"
How the turntables
This is why I love this guy. He actually gives a fair historical analysis of these events WHILE shitposting. What originally was going to be just some jabs at some asshole turned into an unsolved mystery. He actually does his research and it's great.
"Do you have a lawyer diploma?"
IH-"No; but I have some Doritos with me" (CRUNCH)
I love this
6:57
knows law better than the police
lol amazing comment
Chewing into a mic is f-cking annoying. It's such a horrible misophonia trigger, I wanted to strangle him multiple times.
How is a polygraph still considered reliable?
Kanakotka because coppers want to get people imprisoned. Ever hear of corruption? Why do you think a nickname for them is pig?
Polygraph gauge stress. Presumably if you are lying you might get stressed about it. Of course, you could just be stressed in general, or calm under pressure, in which case polygraph are useless. That's why they have a low rate of confidence.
2 years late, but polygraphs are inadmissible as court evidence. What they do is put the suspects on edge and make them 'afraid' of lying. They're basically just there to trick confessions out of suspects.
Polygraphs *are never used as evidence* but instead are just meant to try and scare some into confessions, the Polygraphs is just a box with string attached to you that they say will show if you lie to try and scare people who lie into confessions, *that's it* , but it would never result in someone giving a false confession like normal torture interrogation can,
Its not. Polygraphs are not admissable in court. Its a scare tactic to make people confess.
Chewing chips as loudly as possible into my earphones is really what I want from youtube content.
I have an idea, I know its been solved but its still a good topic, the mcdonalds hot coffee lawsuit, if you're not up to date on it basically mcdonalds sold an old lady a almost boiling cup of coffee and it spilled giving her 3rd degree burns and a ton of other problems, basically mcdonalds then declined to pay her medical bills she took it too court and it was settled for 1 million, in case of a future lawsuits mcdonalds then payed off everybody with a platform to slander the lawsuit and basically turn it into a story of she did it for the money and there is so much depth you can go into this story
ninja-c4 she's also the reason that all warm drinks are served in cups with temperature warnings now. It was a landmark case, sadly
Adamruinseverthingdida video on this
Took it to* court.
I remember seeing a video or article recently that was doing a retrospective on the 'dingo ate my baby' incident that became such a meme. The researcher discovered that it's actually possible, based on a lot of evidence that got ignored in the frenzy, that a dingo or other wild animal killed the baby. But because of the parents perceived negligence and the nature of the case everyone immediately put the blame on them. If what they said actually happened is true imagine how harrowing it must've been to lose your child, get crucified by almost the whole world, and then be turned into a meme. I think in cases like this, whether it was a hoax or not, turning it into a vicious joke against the potential victims is more harm than good. But it's the internet, so even if it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it wasn't a hoax, they'd still get memed to hell
Almost my thoughts exactly on this matter. The family was Lindsey Chamberlained into a guilty verdict.
A dingo ate that baby. If you hear the evidence it’s the conclusion you’ll come to, as well. There were reports of dingos hanging around the campground and taking food.
The issues with police intimidation and lies during interrogations are far more widespread than just this case. It's been shown to lead to a significant number of false confessions. It's counterintuitive, but has been empirically shown to happen.
I think the UK stopped allowing police to lie during interrogations for this specific reason (sometime in the 90s, I think). The US, not so much.
That's why you got to look them in the eye say I ain't telling you nothing.
The one reason why to me it wouldn't make sense that this was a hoax and a "family who wanted attention" was the fact that the wife was illegal in the US. You would not want people to pay attention to you and your life if you have a loved one who can get deported.
Was she illegal?
Others are saying she had a citizenship or a green card or something that says she's allowed to live with her husband. Just that the police were threatening to get her deported; and because of the corrupted system the red tape to get it all sorted would have taken a long time.
Also they were on the tv show wife swap just a few months before? Its not the same as having police around but that could draw attention
Yeah I'm not certain but I don't think they'd have gone on wife swap if she was undocumented, but honestly if she is a citizen that just makes the deportation threats even more sickening
@@diarmuidmacmurchadha8585 I dont know much about US citizenship laws but i thought if you married a citizen that granted you full rights as well? Especially if they've been together long enough to have several children
@@staceys5447 aye that's my point even if she was a legitimate citizen it just makes what the police did even more sickening
Poor Falcon....I can't imagine what kind a person circumstance forced him to be today, 9 years later.
When Internet Historian is a better journalist than any Mainstream media people.
Even if a parent knew, rationally, that their kid was most likely dead they'd still be in denial about it for a long time.
ive always thought when falcon said "we did this for the show" he was just confused and by "the show" he either meant the news show they were currently filming for, or he meant that the whole balloon experiment in general was done for "the show" as Richard was recording the whole thing for his experiment/research. i dont think he meant he did it for the hoax at all. the news/police just heard what they wanted to hear
A gap in the flap.... A tale as old as time
Fucking kudos to you for changing your views based on evidence. Not many people can do that nowadays.
Yeah Mayumi's confession was the biggest load of bollocks and any real self respecting judge would have that thrown out as evidence.
1) Its under duress
2) She's not a native english speaker
3) She doesnt have a lawyer present
4) No evidence of her miranda rights being read to her much less her understanding those rights
Anyone of these disqualifies the confession...doing all 4 is just running up the score
The fact that she didnt know what the hell a hoax was should've immediately had her whole confession thrown in the trash
I've heard multiple 911 calls where they do the same thing , usually in more extreme cases aswell. I think it is primarily to keep the caller on the line, for what reason idk but you can see lots of 911 calls where this happens.
911 operators are NOT a high skill, high paying profession. I don't know if it's minimum wage, but it's not far off. Quite simply, there are a lot of morons taking 911 calls. And for the ones who aren't morons, they have to DEAL with morons constantly abusing the system. I talked to one who told me they (the entire staff at her center) are on first-name basis with dozens of "frequent flyers" who have absolutely no reason to call, but dance around the edge of being able to get them on false reporting or whatever it's called. That's gonna jade even competent people into not doing their best work.
I do not mind the longer wait for longer videos, if you can have these unsolved mysteries 10-15 minutes, that is perfect length. Keep up what you're doing man, one of the best channels on this site!!
Drives me nuts that they kept calling it a flying saucer instead of a balloon, the 911 operator was annoyingly confused but that has to be part of the reason why
balloon is closed due to aids
I watched his video a couple days ago. I’ve made so many photoshops of people I know on the pools closed picture lately
I´m so glad I found your channel, it felt like finding gold. I need more of your videos, rigth into my bloodstream, please.
UGH I love you guys. I’m just glad you’re still around after three years
The great irony and delight of this video for me is that the Internet Historian's level of critical analysis about a godforsaken balloon boy hoax that puts the American media to shame. One guy with some video editing skills, critical thinking skills, an internet connection, and a mellifluous voice and he just so starkly highlights the problems with our media with his offhanded excellence.
love this channel, did more journalistic investigating than any mainstream source
Such a great channel, you put a lot of work into this stuff! keep it up!
There is a herstorian?!?!?
This was the video that got my to sub cause someone that has one idea and does their research and changes their opinions is a good person
loved it bro.
keep up with the unsolved internet mysteries dude!!
60/40 that it was a hoax? After your vid I was convinced it was an honest mistake
amazing work, you've done ten times the research than I thought you'd do for a video. Great work for 3 weeks of work.
This series is better and more interesting than 100% of what's on TV these days.
Love this channel can’t wait for more
I don't think it was a hoax at all, honestly. There's so much evidence that the police were lying, misquoting, and otherwise doing illegal shite and being crooked that I just don't think Richard did it.
Also, someone brought up the fact that Mayumi was here illegally. You don't want to bring attention to that
well he was exonerated last year.
@@fluke7506 Really? Do you have a link? Where did you hear that?
A Gap in the Flap - The Falcon Heene story
Your voice is asmr worthy
You've grown immensely. Would have loved to see 2 vids a week or at least one if it's at the quality you do.
please keep doing these ! i watch when i'm high so good
Love your videos man
The balloon boy video that you did is one of the best videos that the internet has seen.
I'm sure someone posted this at some point, but there are a lot of things the cops fucked up on.
1.) Polygraphs are inadmissible in court. So their use is borderline coercive means to get a confession, which is also inadmissible in court.
2.) No Japanese translator being present for a non-native English speaker is a major no-no as well.
3.) The kid doing something stupid and/or dangerous when it's all caught on camera isn't a reason to sic DHS on their parents, largely because...
4.) It isn't any investigator's job to assume guilt; It's to follow leads to whatever conclusion is most illuminating and all-inclusive for the case at hand. No credible investigator should ever allow the press to bully and intimidate any suspect, either. Those cops who were involved in this particular case are flat-out guilty of abusing their power at the very least, if not easily guilty of far worse. Someone should dig into all previous convictions attached to their arrest records. There's likely to be a lot of this kind of stuff in their past. There almost always is.
That's it, for me. Thanks for the video, and no, I'm not a cop or lawyer. I just know some things through having friends who are police officers and having had a lot of things explained to me by guys who know what cops aren't supposed to be doing, that's all. That's very important information to have, and can save you a lot of hassle in your life.
Internet Historian, you're such a lad. Keep it up! ;D
It's so disgusting that cops and DA's are encouraged to throw people on jail to get promotions and money. It's their job to bring justice and find truth but that kind of motivation has corrupted them.
Internet historian, you've changed my life for the better
Really good video for a 3 weeks worth of research and composition.
the funny vids u make are entertaining at certain times but these questions and answers are great along with the vids they are based on cheers m8
I love your content bro.
Great Intentions man!
Your channels make me feel like a professional internet. I'm gonna need a suit and tie now.
This is great man, I love you.
Brandon Willis Thanks :D
Do more videos like this please, kinda like a short podcast
I feel about 50-50 about whether it was a hoax after seeing your video but even 60-40 what happened to the family is a miscarriage of justice. It's too bad they took a plea because there's reasonable doubt that they did anything illegal.
I hadn't reached the end before I wrote this. The preponderance of evidence discussed in this video would apply to civil trials, but based on the initial video, since they were facing felonies that wouldn't apply here. Those are criminal charges, so the evidence to rule against them would have had to be beyond a reasonable doubt in the US (Which is about 90-10)
Keep them coming, Papi!
Man I thought that voice was put on for the Internet Historian videos. Mint.
Using polygraphs as evidence is like using the stars as an indicator of a crime. It's nonsense
2:18
The child said
" We did this for the show. "
He didn't say
" We did this for the hoax. "
“We’re doing this for the show”
Bruh they don’t have a fucking show
My theory is somewhere in the middle: I think they initially thought Falcon was in the balloon, then they found him after calling the police and then kinda decided to roll with it for the publicity.
Evidence?
Why would they be wondering up their attic while phoning the police?
Unless they're very short, you and I both know that you're way too much of a perfectionist to make 2 videos a week. So just do your thing (which you have been), and keep up the quality content :)
He wouldn't try to breathe through a gap. Hypoxia doesn't hurt. He would just pass out.
Let's be honest. We just love the sound of your voice and narrating style.
More Unsolved Internet Mysteries please they are a godsend for TH-cam
After watching Heene's video on this channel I'm pretty sure he was framed
Never ever get questioned without a lawyer for gods sake.
Jeez it's odd to hear you off script. Refreshing.
"It would be my aim to make 2 a week"
Oh, sweet, naive Harold...
this whole time I was waiting for him to say "elementary my dear" in response to the questions
If you ever do more videos like this, these deep investigations of mysterious internet phenomenon, think you could do a video on Nicolas Fedorov?
I fucking love your voice, dude
"Give this man a lawyers diploma!"
"no thanks, ill just take the doritos (crunch crunch)"
Fear and Malding just name dropped Inernet Historian, and this video today.
One million electron volts is 1.6 x10^-13 joules. An AA battery has roughly 4.75 quadrillion times more energy than that. Internet Historian, I think you mixed up your energy measurements. Ether that or heeney is a dumb scientist
Anthony I noticed that too. In a CNN transcript of the coverage, including the 911 call Heene refers to it as a high voltage experiment and then says that it's a few million electron volts.
It's only so suspicious to me that he specifically used eV- I can only imagine that whatever his theories were would have called for immense amounts of energy such that he would never be interacting with eV except on maybe a theoretical fundamental level?
Probably something the historian should look into
Anthony I'm sure he just meant volts dude
Hey historian now that you released the video directly of heene's words what would your conclusion be, 60/40 or something else? with time all things change and im curious
I can’t get over a 473 blood sugar being ignored. That is highly concerning.
I'm at least 60% sure it's no hoax. Didn't the fact the DHSS got an interview with the kids, separate from their parents, and the kids still denied it was all for show, convince you? And the real footage shows the Japanese wife never once described it as a hoax.
You can't make me believe that lady and those kids were following a script.
Yep, their tactics are pretty transparent. They kept pressing them until they messed up. They ignored all the evidence supporting their innocence and kept investigating until they managed to coerce her into giving them something to grab onto, then they stopped investigating. It's like how the EU presents referendums. They keep asking until you give the "right" answer, then they never ask again.
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How did you manage to not keep snacking on those delicious Doritos during the Q&A? Also- love this shit and love the other shit.
Dude the more i watch you and your channels the more i realize youre not some stupid memer, instead a dude who looks into a situation wholly with no bias then what is evident
What do you think now, with you being given Heene's account of things?
DUDE DO MORE UNSOLVED INTERNET MYSTERIES, IT WENT REALLY WELL
the Heene children now have a heavy metal band. Called HEENE BOYZ they claim they are the world's youngest heavy metal band
they suck, horribly, simply afwul
The lesson from the whole situation should be this - Never talk to cops without a lawyer. Fuck people who say that this indicates guilt, you do not talk to them without a lawyer, because what happened to this family could happen to you. Never to talk to cops without a lawyer. Never.
Could you make a small investigation about that guy who failed to chop coconuts?
waffleless I'm listening.
Go on.
Omuk and he never responded
Dude we’re waiting still!!
Never talk to media, never talk to police. If something happens, it might seem tempting, but that's what lawyers are for. Whether this guy's guilty or not, we may never know for sure. But talking to the media and the police didn't help him or anyone else. Both police and media can and will use everything you say against you.