I live in the city where Anthrocon is held. The city actually loves it when the furries come. Here is a feel good story: There was a pizza place that was going to shut its doors the following week. But during the anthrocon weekend, they made enough revenue to stay open. (And are still in business today). As an homage to the furries, they have a dog bowl and a collar displayed that has Thank You Anthrocon engraved on it.
Regarding Question #8 on the chlorine "bombing"... Friends I have in the fandom heard on the grapevine that it was a couple of teens trying to make shake-and-bake meth using a mason jar, and it exploded. I mean, it makes the most sense. They didn't want to get caught doing it in a hotel room they were sharing, and didn't want to get caught transporting the finished 'product', so they quickly tried making some in the stairwell. Very stupid thing to do, but makes a lot more sense than someone just randomly throwing around chlorine.
@@kurt5079 a really REALLY shitty version of well made meth. Usually done in 2 liter bottles and made of some under-the-kitchen-sink chemical mixtures instead of simple chemical elements. Poor man’s meth.
my point was that it's only in the middle of nowhere relative to the united states. it's also almost the size of the us lower 48 states also, an island is mutually exclusive from continents by definition since it has to be subcontinental - otherwise you could call the entirety of eurasia an island just because they're surrounded by water
@@gairisiuil The commonwealth of australia is a country. The continents it’s on also has Papua, Papua New Guinea and West Papua. Also why are you so obsessed with America lmao
@@jb76489 point taken about the islands, but i mentioned the us twice because 1) spokane is there and 2) i live there (reasons for the mentions respectively)
The Chlorine Incident was Midwest Furfest at Hyatt Regency Ohare in Rosemont, IL, and was a shit night where people couldn't get back into the hotel for a few hours. A friend was one of the group that was hospitalized. People were awesome enough to turn their rooms at the surrounding hotels into hangout spots with snacks and water though.
FYI Spokane is a native American word. They named a lot of towns and cities off of Native American names (Snoqualmie, Wenatchee, Hoquiam, ect) It's often very hard to use the Latin alphabet to get the proper pronunciation.
@@bitchwormpuddin1499 that is true, like the apocalypse guy, I never heard of him, But like the fyre festival is also pretty famous tho, I'd just like to see tanacon because it's fun to shit on tana
At this point even if IH was in a furry suit, as soon as he speaks, the gig is up. Hope he can run fast in that costume because somebody is gonna rip that mask off and find out what he looks like. As it turns out, he's been the Stig all along.
Furries are a wierd subject for me, because the only furry I actually know in real life is some guy down the hall at my dorms who doesn't bathe or wash his clothes... ever... and is known for watching MLP (and other) porn in public at the dining hall, but on the other hand, I keep finding creators/streamers/etc. that I'm a big fan of, and then later learning that they're furries (thatguytagg, Adum from YMS, Shammy/the whole PST podcast crew probably,) and then reminding myself that pretty much every "community" has its fair share of scum, or at least people with scummy qualities, but also cool guys who don't deserve to have their reputations stained by the few jackasses.
Every group has jackasses in it. I remember when I was watching the Toronto Hokey playoffs against Vancouver with my Dad late at night, at first, things were tilting in the direction of Toronto, the croud sounded like a pack of animals...(coincidence?) But by the end, Toronto had lost, and a massive swarm of Torontonians had set someones car ablaze and were chanting for a rematch. It got so bad and massive that the police had to come in and threaten use of tear gas if the crowd did not disperse. Trust me, after you see that kinda stuff go down at an early age, a bunch of artists cosplaying as human-animal hybrids becomes the least of your problems.
Sir Billius Yeah, but based on what he said in his Zootopia review, he's still cool in daily life as well as YT stuff (i.e. he didn't howl in the movie theater or whatever and disapproved of the people who did)
Cheekki Brikki Oh yeah there are defiantly normal furries out there and he doesn’t seem like the mentally unstable type of person to act like a batshit crazy furry.
I've saw a heavyset wise guy Italian dude singing "Girls just want to have fun" out in the street and in broad daylight and I couldn't resist back up singing by yelling "they just wanna". The harmony and timing was fantastic. Thanks for being an eternal 80's girl, mama.
Please consider making a series on con-drama/youtube drama/drama pertaining to the internet in general. I thoroughly enjoyed the Rainfurrest, Fyrefest and Dash Con vids, you're super informed and your voice is so pleasant to listen to~
but thats the thing, its about a neutral narration of events, if you want drama, theres enough bs all over the internet with true malicious intent behind their videos
I think stayed pretty neutral, you stuck to the facts and weren't injecting your personal opinions into things. Not much you can do when people are being that terrible...
its mainly funny as fkng shit tbh i have no fkng idea how he does it with a straight face i diddle arnd with my throat, a lot, so i wanted to see if i could do it along with him. i got some of the timbres down but when i started getting close at all i fkng was just immediately violated by my own laughter, over n over again.
I dont think Dashcon was the biggest Disaster (at the time of this video, or else it was definitely Fyre) I mean Dashcon was the bigger failure as Con but Rainfurrest definitely was the bigger Disaster. What I mean by that is, Dashcon failed as a con, because it was only a boring and annoying shitshow for the people that were there, but in Rainfurrest shit was going down and stuff got destroyed and all which is more of a disaster. (And yet even though its a Furry con that was pretty fucked, it was probably more fun than Dashcon)
Yep. That's spot on. It's kind of like if you're IT for a firm, you have to make sure that everyone adheres to security policies. The moment someone stops and doesn't receive feedback, the whole thing is broken. As, if...say, the CEO decides that certain rules don't apply to them, then the CFO will decide so as well, and the next thing you know, there isn't a single person adhering to the policy. So, if someone is running a con or group of any sort, you HAVE to accept that enforcing the rules may be unpopular and have to do it anyway.
I know that there was a gas attack in 2014 at a furry convention near me (over in Rosemont IL). I visited the convention center for a different convention in 2018 and found out about the attack afterwards. It felt so surreal looking at the pictures of the Hyatt hotel that were taken and recognizing that exact area (the front entrance facing the parking garage)
@@irishboy_pa While I know you were just joking, in case you were actually a bit curious, those are names from the Native Americans who were indigenous to the area.
Something weird about these videos is that theyll will probably viewed in a couple of centuries as actual historic data, as by that time internet will actually be a footnote of human history
I'm involved with the furry community (I'm an artist and done some cons) though on the opposite end of the USoA. I did ask a couple friends who live in that neck of the woods what they thought about Rainfurrest after the video came out since it was the first time I'd heard of it. The way they tell it, there's something of a cursed mantle that floats around the furcons: the 'one for banned folks'. Rainfurrest for a while had caught this label. It was small enough to not be able to afford snubbing paying customers and the people attending who were banned elsewhere acted like no rules applied. So for all the local folks just having a good time, you've got a small clique of troublemakers not welcome at most conventions for one behavior issue or another.
Aight so really random thought, but I was listening to the music in the background and was like "oy, this is pretty modern music" and it surprised me cause subconsciously I process Internet Historian and András Arató as the same person, and I needed to consciously remind myself that he is not in fact a 76 y/o Hungarian man listening to lofi beats.
I mean, drugs, alcohol, and unprepared staff/security is just asking for trouble Despite this event, cons are really fun. I think it's so cool to see cosplayers and furries bringing their characters to life with the costumes.
Just found these videos and I love them! Me and a buddy of mine were actually at rainfurrest and most of this is perfectly accurate. I was only there for the first day as I was younger than but from what friends say the rest of the con went quite like it was said.
Well, glad to hear that you're open-minded enough to attend a convention. Though, I'd still recommend going to a reasonable one rather than some impending disaster.
>crush it like a japanese woman crushing a kitten's head first off it was chinese second off goddammit i know exactly which video you're talking about mr. historian man
16:31 You mention that you couldn't cover this story because it's essentially a stub - would it be possible to do a sort of 'anthology' type video on similar stories, or is there just not enough content?
For the love of god do a video on tanacon I’m assuming that Shane Dawson’s will be honest, but it would be nice to find an explanation video of what went down without someone who’s attached to tana or anyone else involved.
Hi, I was there. I witnessed some of the absolute horror it was. I tried to warn them at their complaint panel at the end of con. They said " if it gets us attention, we don't see a need to do anything to change it." I was dumbstruck. I was the person who stood on the table to clear the main hall for the paramedics so they could reach the kid ODing on shrooms who'd tried to drown himself in the pool. After I had managed to direct traffic to clear the room. I was holding the door to redirect traffic till the paramedics had finished. I overheard people saying " oh this is a major incident, this means ppl are going to recognize rainfurrest as a major con now." I immediately asked wtf they were talking about and it was explained that every major convention became considered that after the con had a serious major incident where someone got hurt or arrested. I had never heard this before, but a lot of ppl agreed so it seemed that is was a commonly known thing. So I replied and said " that is a terrible thing to aim as the reason for anything to be considered major. I wouldn't want this horrible thing to be what our convention becomes known for... that's going to give furries bad reputation. We struggle with this enough as it is. This convention is supposed to be clean all around fun. " And everyone was just quiet after that some made sounds of agreement and seemed to pause in reflection. After this. I heard this same rumor several times throughout the rest of the entire con. I would stop and tell whoever I heard saying this the same thing. At one one of them said I had a good point and I should bring it up at the hiss and scratch at the end of the convention. I didn't even know they had a complaints panel, but I literally stayed for the rest of the entire convention (which had been an absolute fking literal shit filled nightmare) just to go to this fking panel and bring up my concerns about everything that I had heard and personally witnessed myself. Which was a lot. There were a lot of fked up things a lot of the con attendees aren't aware of that actually happened. Or heard inaccurate rumors of the incident. I know the truth however cus I actually saw what happened or talked directly to the person that had been a part of the incident and got the story directly. I was very passionate about rainfurrest, it had been my favorite convention. I used to do Anime cons, but after I went to RF the first time, I stopped all other cons entirely. I had some of the best times of my life at this con. I felt the most at home with the furry community. I felt like I genuinely could just openly be myself, and rainfurrest was my local furry convention. I re-shaped my entire artistic direction and career off furries becuase of this con. So ofc I was highly sensitive to anything that was going to put a stain on it. However after I got that responce from having brought these things to their attention and that I had feared the conventions reputation with the Hilton, and feared that we might not be able to keep the con here if these things kept happening.. And their responce was to shrug and go "so?" The arrogance and entitlement of the con hosts was quite honestly appalling. After that I heard the convention was shut down and it was so bad that someone had written a letter to ever venue in the state to warn them and there was literally no place that would take them. That sucked for the furry attendees in WA, but served those con hosts right. I told them... I fkin told them...Their ignorance destroyed my favorite con. Shame these were the reasons rainfurrest became a major con... a major example of a majorly bad con. I hate to say I told you so, cus it's never anything good. And thats why I hate when I'm right, cus Unfortunately I have always been right... I never heard on that kid that had been taken by the paramedics though. I hope he was okay. The thing about the towels in the hot tub is incorrect, the reality is worse. First someone shit in the hot tub the day prior having it closed for the day while they did an entire water change. The next day when they reopened the hot tub, I assume the same person who had shit in it shit in an adult diaper and then shoved it into the hot tub filter, which clogged jammed and broke the motor. Having the hot tub permanently out of service for the rest of the convention. Some of the vandalism had to do with some rooms that literally had shit smeared all over the walls like a Jackson Pollock painting. I wish I was joking, however I saw it myself. There were some rooms that were open to the halls like an open room party, but instead you got hit with that horrid human fecal matter smell and discover.... yeah... it was not pretty. And I heard from several others it wasn't the only room that had this happen. The halls smelling like Sh!t is not a joke. The elevator had been broken far worse than mention in that statement. Ppl had broke buttons on the control panel and a large group had decided to jump on the elevator as it was ascending. Causing a lot of wear on the mechanism that pulled the elevator up. Which ultimately caused the elevator to take a really long time. And being the only elevator to the main area of the convention center and suiters unable to take stairs. It was a long wait to get to the main part of the convention center. Eventually they had to limit the amount on the elevator to about 3 ppl each trip and had a staff member on duty riding the elevator to work the elevator and monitor the activity. Before that happened though, a few baby furs had decided to all togeather wait for the elevator to fill up and doors to close before all taking a crap in their diapers. And with the elevator taking like 10-15 mins a trip.. you can imagine what this was like for the other attendees who were trapped in there with them. I know this happened because I saw someone come off the elevator crying and found out what happened first hand, as I had been waiting for someone else to make it upstairs.
@@mickeywild252 yeah, it did. I got photos to prove I was actually there. Not to mention my friends who were there with me, like the fursuiter Meep. who I was spotting for, who also witnessed. Cool trying to cover for the liars though.👍
I’m friends with a furry and he is a chill guy and he doesn’t talk about being one much. And by being with him I learned that their are two types of furries. Their are the normal ones who are like normal people and don’t act out of the ordinary and have manners and then their are the toxic furries who showed up to the convention and could show the slightest respect as they believed they had free reign to do what they wanted
Exactly. Furries are just people like everyone else with interests and fascinations in anthro characters. Unfortunately, many people, especially online, give the entire community a bad look, wether it be doing things like at rainfurest, sexual, illegal, and inappropriate behavior, and generally acting degenerative. It's unfortunate, because alot of people, myself included see it as an opportunity to express ourselves and to have fun. The community is known for its inclusiveness and positivity. I wish more people had a mindset as open as yours.
@Kill All Pedophiles How could they all be Degenerates if its literally just a hobby? That's like saying EVERY SINGLE gun owner is a school shooter because all school shooter own guns
Well, the last time a big TH-camr interviewed a furry trying to show they're good guys, that went splendidly! Nobody's gonna wanna touch that for a looong time.
@@roxas4930 when was what? Shane Dawson interviewed Kero like, a year ago.. and, since deleted it for obvious reasons but there's reuploads out there. I'm not positive when he deleted it, though, if that's what you're wondering but I'd assume shortly after the leaks regarding that zoosadist group.
I know it’s been said already, but my guess is that the cameraman was the saboteur because in the clip where the guy says he is almost certain who it is, he looks directly at the camera a couple times. If he can’t legally say something, but is unhappy about it, he’d likely nudge people in the direction of the perpetrator.
17:20 "It was a janitor cleaning the pool all along, and they didn't want to take responsibility." Well, you know what that calls for: POOL'S CLOSED. xD
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Oh I get it, it sounds like rain forest
........(sigh)
Off Beat Good boy, off beat, you've figured it out. You're such a cle... *sigh* you're such a clever boy off beat. *struggles to smile*
I Pee Nuts thats the point *winks at you*
I Pee Nuts you edited your comment too late
Off Beat I feel stupid for only noticing that now. 😖
I live in the city where Anthrocon is held. The city actually loves it when the furries come. Here is a feel good story: There was a pizza place that was going to shut its doors the following week. But during the anthrocon weekend, they made enough revenue to stay open. (And are still in business today). As an homage to the furries, they have a dog bowl and a collar displayed that has Thank You Anthrocon engraved on it.
Yeah, that's one of our highlights.
A dog bowl... Jesus, how dehumanizing
@@geegee4389 if anyone is dehumanizing furries it's themselves
@@geegee4389 i uhhhh... think thats what they want
For normal day civilians to notice and acknowledge their retardation with a dog bowl should never be a good thing smh
If Internet Historian thinks Fyre Festival was the biggest disaster then he clearly hasn't delved into Woodstock '99. Would love to see a video on it.
There was more than one Woodstock festival?
@@kosmikme Yes
@@kosmikme Yep, it was a full on riot.
@@Knightwolf1994 was that the one where security was hell's Angel's or whatever that biker gang was?
@@CarterSauceFrey05 Nah the Hells Angela one was in 1969.
Regarding Question #8 on the chlorine "bombing"...
Friends I have in the fandom heard on the grapevine that it was a couple of teens trying to make shake-and-bake meth using a mason jar, and it exploded. I mean, it makes the most sense. They didn't want to get caught doing it in a hotel room they were sharing, and didn't want to get caught transporting the finished 'product', so they quickly tried making some in the stairwell. Very stupid thing to do, but makes a lot more sense than someone just randomly throwing around chlorine.
I dunno, I would absolutely believe someone tried to chlorine bomb a bunch of furries.
WTF is shake an bake meth?
You've got some fucked up friends.
Hmm. Both theories sound probable. People being malicious versus people being stupid is hard to differentiate.
@@kurt5079 a really REALLY shitty version of well made meth. Usually done in 2 liter bottles and made of some under-the-kitchen-sink chemical mixtures instead of simple chemical elements. Poor man’s meth.
Let me know if you got a notification for this. because you shouldn't have... I turned it off for this one because it's just a reupload. Cheers
I always check my subscriptions tab, you show up there. But I'll hit the bell to see next time you upload.
I was also in my subscription feed.
I actually did
*I did, and I love you.*
I got a notification from this
im gonna copystirke these clouds
Those clouds are mine!
I'm gonna copystike these clouds
Just for raining on me.
It's a legit Time-Warner-Cable property since 1997. Shut this down, now!
Hey, can we copystrike these clouds?
Can we copystrike internet historian?
When the guy said he knew who the saboteur was, he looked straight at the camera..
i was the saboteur the whole time!
It was me the whole time
Maybe...we WE'RE the saboteur this time, guys, we need to confess now!
Maybe the real saboteur were the friends we made along the way
it was the cameraman btw if anyone wonders the answer till this day
You'd think a con about a ton of weird kinks would be able to find a Dom who could stop people from breaking the rules.
Avarickan Book/film reviewer are perfectly fitted for peacekeeping
Yeah, But that requires a mindset, where you don't think that actually enforcing rules is "Fash" and I doubt the Organisers had that.
The reason for this is that they're all subs. Don't ask me how I know that though.
Some guy: Does a bad
A dom in a german shepherd fursuit:
Except for the subs that intentionally break rules so they can be punished.
ah
Sealdrop How the hell are you a certified channel?
dead acc
crookback you sneaky pete
Sealdrop, despacito.
Ah
Internet historian: calls Spokane middle of nowhere
Also internet historian: Lives on a desert island
australia is a continent
@@gairisiuil That's an island
my point was that it's only in the middle of nowhere relative to the united states. it's also almost the size of the us lower 48 states
also, an island is mutually exclusive from continents by definition since it has to be subcontinental - otherwise you could call the entirety of eurasia an island just because they're surrounded by water
@@gairisiuil The commonwealth of australia is a country. The continents it’s on also has Papua, Papua New Guinea and West Papua. Also why are you so obsessed with America lmao
@@jb76489 point taken about the islands, but i mentioned the us twice because 1) spokane is there and 2) i live there (reasons for the mentions respectively)
"I'd wear a furry costume to retain anonymity" nobody knows what you look like?
I think you just want to wear a furry costume.
Maui Randall haha funny joke tho maybe 😬
Hmm...
A hazmat suit is more in season
Oh dang sorry to tell you but its called a fursuit
@@blap8776 Oh dang sorry to tell you that normal humans don't care
The Chlorine Incident was Midwest Furfest at Hyatt Regency Ohare in Rosemont, IL, and was a shit night where people couldn't get back into the hotel for a few hours. A friend was one of the group that was hospitalized. People were awesome enough to turn their rooms at the surrounding hotels into hangout spots with snacks and water though.
What if Behind the Meme is self aware and is hiatus making a video on himself exposing his master plan to destroy memes.
He played Metal Gear Solid 2 a little too much.
Getting caught was part of his plan?
Well it's been a year so this plan better be great.
He's quite simply not smart enough to either come up with, or even follow such a plan.
@@jimmyrustler9980 Of course. The next step of his master plan, you ask? Crashing his channel with no survivors.
FYI Spokane is a native American word. They named a lot of towns and cities off of Native American names (Snoqualmie, Wenatchee, Hoquiam, ect) It's often very hard to use the Latin alphabet to get the proper pronunciation.
How hard can it be? It rhymes with "qoquayine' for fuck's sake!
No it's just english not adhering to the latin alphabet.
What's it mean in english?
@Azono oh.....
Spokanne. There, it'll make people pronounce it properly then
Time to do Tanacon 2018
I think the reason he's not doing Tanacon is because:
1. It only lasted 1-day
2. Practically everyone knows where it went wrong
YEEEEEEEEEEES!
@@elcujo1347 yes but it's fun to shit on Tana anyway
Seba Seba yeah but the point of this channel is more obscure topics that people either havent heard of or are way more complex
@@bitchwormpuddin1499 that is true, like the apocalypse guy, I never heard of him,
But like the fyre festival is also pretty famous tho,
I'd just like to see tanacon because it's fun to shit on tana
At this point even if IH was in a furry suit, as soon as he speaks, the gig is up. Hope he can run fast in that costume because somebody is gonna rip that mask off and find out what he looks like. As it turns out, he's been the Stig all along.
Twist ending: Internet Historian is just Herstorian using a voice changer
@@zsasz21 Oooo. Good one. Very Mmmm Night Shamalan.
Furries are a wierd subject for me, because the only furry I actually know in real life is some guy down the hall at my dorms who doesn't bathe or wash his clothes... ever... and is known for watching MLP (and other) porn in public at the dining hall, but on the other hand, I keep finding creators/streamers/etc. that I'm a big fan of, and then later learning that they're furries (thatguytagg, Adum from YMS, Shammy/the whole PST podcast crew probably,) and then reminding myself that pretty much every "community" has its fair share of scum, or at least people with scummy qualities, but also cool guys who don't deserve to have their reputations stained by the few jackasses.
It's like a fetish, but slightly more so for some reason I don't understand. Seriously, I like some of the porn, but I don't get the costumes at all.
Every group has jackasses in it. I remember when I was watching the Toronto Hokey playoffs against Vancouver with my Dad late at night, at first, things were tilting in the direction of Toronto, the croud sounded like a pack of animals...(coincidence?) But by the end, Toronto had lost, and a massive swarm of Torontonians had set someones car ablaze and were chanting for a rematch. It got so bad and massive that the police had to come in and threaten use of tear gas if the crowd did not disperse. Trust me, after you see that kinda stuff go down at an early age, a bunch of artists cosplaying as human-animal hybrids becomes the least of your problems.
YMS is a furry! FUCK, REALLY?? Holy shit that blew my fucking mind!
Sir Billius Yeah, but based on what he said in his Zootopia review, he's still cool in daily life as well as YT stuff (i.e. he didn't howl in the movie theater or whatever and disapproved of the people who did)
Cheekki Brikki
Oh yeah there are defiantly normal furries out there and he doesn’t seem like the mentally unstable type of person to act like a batshit crazy furry.
I've saw a heavyset wise guy Italian dude singing "Girls just want to have fun" out in the street and in broad daylight and I couldn't resist back up singing by yelling "they just wanna". The harmony and timing was fantastic. Thanks for being an eternal 80's girl, mama.
TANACON.
VIDEO.
WHEN.
ILostMySanityToday y e s
@leah rose check the date u moron
@@johnapple6646 where is it ? Can't find it
@leah rose WHERE
@leah rose ok, but we thought you were talking about I.H.
Going to copystrike the alphabet
Well, last year someone literally copystriked the sound of forest trees in the wind sucesfully...
@@StrazdasLT REALLY?! Who was it?
@@MustardCrow I dont remmeber the company name, it was one of those genetic music company affiliates. It was all over the youtube reddit at the time.
Has anyone found out who was sending the letters, the answer always kept eluding me.
my guess is the camera man behind the rainfurrest clips
It’s probably the old guy who asks the girl where she’s at at the beginning of the video
the person tossing the diapers on the cars obviously. he was pissed that every other convention had banned him for his behavior.
yeah but who IS it
i was just about to ask the same thing
IH should do a video of 'Dead ends' where he talks about interesting stories that just have a dead end.
Hide the Pain Harold is alive. He appeared in a promo video for Manchester City FC earlier this year
A german company made an ad with him
Please consider making a series on con-drama/youtube drama/drama pertaining to the internet in general. I thoroughly enjoyed the Rainfurrest, Fyrefest and Dash Con vids, you're super informed and your voice is so pleasant to listen to~
but thats the thing, its about a neutral narration of events, if you want drama, theres enough bs all over the internet with true malicious intent behind their videos
Keep that youtube drama shit the fuck away from Internet Historian.
@@mynewaccount2361 What is up Historian Nation.
I guess I’m spending the rest of my day looking for the saboteur.
Edit: I’m pretty sure it’s the cameraman.
it’s definitely the guy who goes “it’s coming back” at the end
CHANGE
Holy fuck those are both good suggestions.
It was the butler in the kitchen with the silver spoon
I bet it was the guy with the power tools. He’s a really funny guy.
Sir Billius it was the purple fox asking “how you crinkle”
I usually watch podcast-type videos at 1.5x or 1.75x speed, but this guy’s voice makes it impossible for me to do so. Love him.
"I get lots of text messages.."
"I'm *very* popular"
*Dealer*
I think stayed pretty neutral, you stuck to the facts and weren't injecting your personal opinions into things. Not much you can do when people are being that terrible...
Cool sona
@@azalkathegunpowderdragon9439 perhaps
owo
@@bokoda7207 owo
@@azalkathegunpowderdragon9439 owo
your voice is so calming, you need a podcast
its mainly funny as fkng shit tbh i have no fkng idea how he does it with a straight face
i diddle arnd with my throat, a lot, so i wanted to see if i could do it along with him.
i got some of the timbres down but when i started getting close at all i fkng was just immediately violated by my own laughter, over n over again.
@@yuckyskunk2021re-recordings
"They keep on their side of the fence, and I keep to mine"
Underrated joke.
Please explain for the people
@@billowen3285 its funny bcuz theyre on the same side of the fence
I dont think Dashcon was the biggest Disaster (at the time of this video, or else it was definitely Fyre)
I mean Dashcon was the bigger failure as Con but Rainfurrest definitely was the bigger Disaster. What I mean by that is, Dashcon failed as a con, because it was only a boring and annoying shitshow for the people that were there, but in Rainfurrest shit was going down and stuff got destroyed and all which is more of a disaster.
(And yet even though its a Furry con that was pretty fucked, it was probably more fun than Dashcon)
Agreed, Id rather have witnessed the entire car crash that was Rainfurest rather than the sheer incompetence that was Dashcon.
Bigger failure than disaster. Accurate AF.
I'd argue that Dashcon was a bigger disaster due to all the people who got scammed thousands of dollars due to it.
Damage doesn't have to be physical.
Cardemis due due.
At least Rainfurrest was insured. The only problem was that the hotels simply never wanted it ever again
that wasn't the promised 4 minutes of black screen. I feel like you've cheated me of my promised 4 minutes of quality content.
Are you going to do the hilarity of Kilroy?
If iDubbbz is Metroman, Behind the Meme is Titan
accurate
iDubbzz is Hanibal Lecter, behind the meme is cancer
Bruh iDubbz is Robbie rotten and behind the meme is the brain tumour
RIP
behind the meme is a criminal, and idubbbz is the content cop
Yep. That's spot on. It's kind of like if you're IT for a firm, you have to make sure that everyone adheres to security policies. The moment someone stops and doesn't receive feedback, the whole thing is broken.
As, if...say, the CEO decides that certain rules don't apply to them, then the CFO will decide so as well, and the next thing you know, there isn't a single person adhering to the policy.
So, if someone is running a con or group of any sort, you HAVE to accept that enforcing the rules may be unpopular and have to do it anyway.
0:09 - "Tell us a little about yourself."
"Um. I feel like i'm in middle school."
Huh. i would have listed my hobbies or something.
honestly, im impressed how much you can assume just from that one line
@@User-1939t9 it truly is telling.
That Spokane part hit hard, I live there
My condolences
Big F momment
I know that there was a gas attack in 2014 at a furry convention near me (over in Rosemont IL). I visited the convention center for a different convention in 2018 and found out about the attack afterwards. It felt so surreal looking at the pictures of the Hyatt hotel that were taken and recognizing that exact area (the front entrance facing the parking garage)
Your channel is a beautiful work of art, man. Thank you
The fact he brings up behind the meme really dates this video.
Will a Fyre Q and A happen?
Reegarding Spokane, I'd love to hear you try and tackle Puyallup, Yakima and Enumclaw. XD (Go Seahawks)
Are you speaking English still 😂😂
Cpl of fucking fairies in tights pads and helmets? No challenge.
@@irishboy_pa While I know you were just joking, in case you were actually a bit curious, those are names from the Native Americans who were indigenous to the area.
I recognize Enumclaw from a Steve Hofstetter video, as the place with a "horse brothel".
Aussies have their fair share of native names as well, like kununurra oombulgurri, ampilatwatja lol
Something weird about these videos is that theyll will probably viewed in a couple of centuries as actual historic data, as by that time internet will actually be a footnote of human history
The chlorine bombing was at Midwest FurFest which is held in Chicago.
That's how it was referred to in Question #8 on the video. But he gave the wrong con name.
Speaking of that incident. Was the culprit ever caught?
Chlorine bomb? Like mustard gas?
@stewps What year and Con was it? Because I might have been there.
@@peepoobeepoo5842 Supposedly. It was enough to evacuate the entire hotel for a good 6 hours in the middle of Chicago in November. Good times.
Well he said he wanted to go in the field we need to create a fursona for internet historian for anthro con
Would a dinosaur work?
@@justafan9399 aight sounds like a good idea
Let me just thank you for shedding light on a thing that happened within my area of living that I have had almost no information on.
OMG it's Internet FurStorian, the most educated furry around! He's the sabateour!
The music is the album Beets 4 by Birocratic
I met him in 2019, he's cool as hell
Internet historian has such an awesome and relaxing voice to listen to
The more I find about these channels, the more I like... I've been missing out.
gotta get you for something, even if it's the tiniest thing...
Ps.
Question 5 stuff is basically:
Rainfurrest was a disaster in a hindsight, Dashcon was a disaster as it was happening
I think I’ve watched every one of your videos in two days. This content is gold among the mountain of shit that is TH-cam
"if you're gonna live in the middle if nowhere" Spokane is the second largest city in Washington
Yes, the second largest city in nowhere.
tcutshaw oi, Washington State has the 13th largest population count out of all 50 states. Fight me
@@ovi5986 A lot of nobodies in nowhere, what a surprise
I'm pretty sure he lives in Australia, so, yeah, none of that is relevant
@@edgarruiz4073 It's still relevant. The U.S. is a big ass place buddy
Behind the Meme is Lenny from Of Mice and Men
Fucking obliterated
that just made me sad lmao
Wait what xD
Still better than dashcon
Sirmatthewawesome horsefuckets don't deserve happiness, I'd assume this is quite the issue to saddle 😏😂😂😂
No, it's not. This went way worse than Dashcon.
At least in this con the organizers were competent.
@Ben Phone
No, this was the Tumbler con
The MLP con is different.
Hooded Man Nah. At least Rainfurrest was around for years before idiots caused the con to die. Dashcon was a disaster as soon as it started.
I'm involved with the furry community (I'm an artist and done some cons) though on the opposite end of the USoA. I did ask a couple friends who live in that neck of the woods what they thought about Rainfurrest after the video came out since it was the first time I'd heard of it. The way they tell it, there's something of a cursed mantle that floats around the furcons: the 'one for banned folks'. Rainfurrest for a while had caught this label. It was small enough to not be able to afford snubbing paying customers and the people attending who were banned elsewhere acted like no rules applied. So for all the local folks just having a good time, you've got a small clique of troublemakers not welcome at most conventions for one behavior issue or another.
It's still not gonna help your publicity
If the internet historian con doesn’t include an inflatable pool ball pit, I will be very disappointed.
Aight so really random thought, but I was listening to the music in the background and was like "oy, this is pretty modern music" and it surprised me cause subconsciously I process Internet Historian and András Arató as the same person, and I needed to consciously remind myself that he is not in fact a 76 y/o Hungarian man listening to lofi beats.
Or is he?
@@miko5742 "Vsauce music starts playing"
Internet Zerstorian sounds like Chills with a more normal voice
Number 15, furger king foot lettuce...
I mean,
drugs, alcohol, and unprepared staff/security is just asking for trouble
Despite this event, cons are really fun. I think it's so cool to see cosplayers and furries bringing their characters to life with the costumes.
Just found these videos and I love them! Me and a buddy of mine were actually at rainfurrest and most of this is perfectly accurate. I was only there for the first day as I was younger than but from what friends say the rest of the con went quite like it was said.
Well, glad to hear that you're open-minded enough to attend a convention. Though, I'd still recommend going to a reasonable one rather than some impending disaster.
WE WANT HWNDU 8
Especially since it's ended now because Biden won
>crush it like a japanese woman crushing a kitten's head
first off it was chinese
second off goddammit i know exactly which video you're talking about mr. historian man
The moment i watched it i knew for sure i would remember that shit forever. Was years ago
De Brain once I accidentally came across some actual murder photos and the same thing happened to me.
Can we just bomb China? They seem to be the world leader in animal abuse, fucked up diets, and pandemics.
@@natedash11
With the S500 system they have? Good luck.
I'm glad I've always had the instinct to click away from such videos. Except when you have to learn something like "How the Sausage is Made." Ew.
16:31
You mention that you couldn't cover this story because it's essentially a stub - would it be possible to do a sort of 'anthology' type video on similar stories, or is there just not enough content?
I'm thinking the same thing!
the saboteur was the cameraman recording the furryfest btw if anyone wanders the answer till this day
Ooooh thanks
7:39 "It might be the worst festival that's ever happened."
Well now you have to do astroworld festival
Its been a couple of years and I STILL DONT KNOW WHO TF HE IS TALKING ABOUT. Who tf put the diapers everywhere
My guess is the dude who says theres no truth to the rumors of rainfurrest being cursed
Camera man (probably)
Some people are saying it was a guy called uncle kage but there's apparently some debate over it (hence why no one wants to name him).
For the love of god do a video on tanacon
I’m assuming that Shane Dawson’s will be honest, but it would be nice to find an explanation video of what went down without someone who’s attached to tana or anyone else involved.
90% of questions: behind the meme
10% of questions: actual rainforest shit
"Let's talk about the worst thing ever: Behind the Meme"
The mic picked it up, it was perfect
Hi, I was there. I witnessed some of the absolute horror it was. I tried to warn them at their complaint panel at the end of con.
They said " if it gets us attention, we don't see a need to do anything to change it."
I was dumbstruck.
I was the person who stood on the table to clear the main hall for the paramedics so they could reach the kid ODing on shrooms who'd tried to drown himself in the pool.
After I had managed to direct traffic to clear the room. I was holding the door to redirect traffic till the paramedics had finished. I overheard people saying " oh this is a major incident, this means ppl are going to recognize rainfurrest as a major con now."
I immediately asked wtf they were talking about and it was explained that every major convention became considered that after the con had a serious major incident where someone got hurt or arrested.
I had never heard this before, but a lot of ppl agreed so it seemed that is was a commonly known thing.
So I replied and said " that is a terrible thing to aim as the reason for anything to be considered major. I wouldn't want this horrible thing to be what our convention becomes known for... that's going to give furries bad reputation. We struggle with this enough as it is. This convention is supposed to be clean all around fun. "
And everyone was just quiet after that some made sounds of agreement and seemed to pause in reflection.
After this. I heard this same rumor several times throughout the rest of the entire con. I would stop and tell whoever I heard saying this the same thing. At one one of them said I had a good point and I should bring it up at the hiss and scratch at the end of the convention.
I didn't even know they had a complaints panel, but I literally stayed for the rest of the entire convention (which had been an absolute fking literal shit filled nightmare) just to go to this fking panel and bring up my concerns about everything that I had heard and personally witnessed myself.
Which was a lot.
There were a lot of fked up things a lot of the con attendees aren't aware of that actually happened.
Or heard inaccurate rumors of the incident.
I know the truth however cus I actually saw what happened or talked directly to the person that had been a part of the incident and got the story directly.
I was very passionate about rainfurrest, it had been my favorite convention. I used to do Anime cons, but after I went to RF the first time, I stopped all other cons entirely. I had some of the best times of my life at this con. I felt the most at home with the furry community. I felt like I genuinely could just openly be myself, and rainfurrest was my local furry convention.
I re-shaped my entire artistic direction and career off furries becuase of this con.
So ofc I was highly sensitive to anything that was going to put a stain on it.
However after I got that responce from having brought these things to their attention and that I had feared the conventions reputation with the Hilton, and feared that we might not be able to keep the con here if these things kept happening..
And their responce was to shrug and go "so?"
The arrogance and entitlement of the con hosts was quite honestly appalling.
After that I heard the convention was shut down and it was so bad that someone had written a letter to ever venue in the state to warn them and there was literally no place that would take them.
That sucked for the furry attendees in WA, but served those con hosts right. I told them... I fkin told them...Their ignorance destroyed my favorite con.
Shame these were the reasons rainfurrest became a major con... a major example of a majorly bad con.
I hate to say I told you so, cus it's never anything good. And thats why I hate when I'm right, cus Unfortunately I have always been right...
I never heard on that kid that had been taken by the paramedics though. I hope he was okay.
The thing about the towels in the hot tub is incorrect, the reality is worse. First someone shit in the hot tub the day prior having it closed for the day while they did an entire water change. The next day when they reopened the hot tub, I assume the same person who had shit in it shit in an adult diaper and then shoved it into the hot tub filter, which clogged jammed and broke the motor. Having the hot tub permanently out of service for the rest of the convention.
Some of the vandalism had to do with some rooms that literally had shit smeared all over the walls like a Jackson Pollock painting.
I wish I was joking, however I saw it myself. There were some rooms that were open to the halls like an open room party, but instead you got hit with that horrid human fecal matter smell and discover.... yeah... it was not pretty.
And I heard from several others it wasn't the only room that had this happen. The halls smelling like Sh!t is not a joke.
The elevator had been broken far worse than mention in that statement. Ppl had broke buttons on the control panel and a large group had decided to jump on the elevator as it was ascending. Causing a lot of wear on the mechanism that pulled the elevator up. Which ultimately caused the elevator to take a really long time.
And being the only elevator to the main area of the convention center and suiters unable to take stairs. It was a long wait to get to the main part of the convention center.
Eventually they had to limit the amount on the elevator to about 3 ppl each trip and had a staff member on duty riding the elevator to work the elevator and monitor the activity.
Before that happened though, a few baby furs had decided to all togeather wait for the elevator to fill up and doors to close before all taking a crap in their diapers. And with the elevator taking like 10-15 mins a trip.. you can imagine what this was like for the other attendees who were trapped in there with them.
I know this happened because I saw someone come off the elevator crying and found out what happened first hand, as I had been waiting for someone else to make it upstairs.
Cool story sis, none of the stuff you wrote actually happened.
@@mickeywild252 yeah, it did. I got photos to prove I was actually there. Not to mention my friends who were there with me, like the fursuiter Meep. who I was spotting for, who also witnessed.
Cool trying to cover for the liars though.👍
Was surprised to hear Birocratic's jams in the background, love that
This background is mine.... And this triagonal sign!
I flagged this video for promoting terrorism. As usual, great content, m8. Keep it up!
In the Field: Incognito Harold Goes on Sa-furry. I would watch this nature documentary.
I’m friends with a furry and he is a chill guy and he doesn’t talk about being one much. And by being with him I learned that their are two types of furries. Their are the normal ones who are like normal people and don’t act out of the ordinary and have manners and then their are the toxic furries who showed up to the convention and could show the slightest respect as they believed they had free reign to do what they wanted
Exactly. Furries are just people like everyone else with interests and fascinations in anthro characters. Unfortunately, many people, especially online, give the entire community a bad look, wether it be doing things like at rainfurest, sexual, illegal, and inappropriate behavior, and generally acting degenerative. It's unfortunate, because alot of people, myself included see it as an opportunity to express ourselves and to have fun. The community is known for its inclusiveness and positivity. I wish more people had a mindset as open as yours.
Exactly, and that ratio of good to bad is like 10000:1. Some people are dicks that HAPPEN to be in some fandom or community.
@Kill All Pedophiles How could they all be Degenerates if its literally just a hobby? That's like saying EVERY SINGLE gun owner is a school shooter because all school shooter own guns
first motly crue n now this r u fucking kidding me
No such thing as "normal" furries. It's a mental illness.
"Live in the middle of nowhere"
Says someone living in Australia.
@IcyCrusader We call our middle of nowhere "Woop Woop".
what do you mean, only 98% of it is the middle of nowhere, the other 2% is the coastlines
Australia is like 1% suburbia where most people live and 99% middle of nowhere.
How come you don't just get a furry who actually went to Rainfurrest?
I'm sure you could find one who would be happy to talk about it.
I mean, Adum from YMS was frequent at the Con
Faith problem is... NOBODY WANTS TO REMEMBER THAT TRAINWRECK
Well, the last time a big TH-camr interviewed a furry trying to show they're good guys, that went splendidly!
Nobody's gonna wanna touch that for a looong time.
Rose Ella-Grace when was that again?
@@roxas4930 when was what? Shane Dawson interviewed Kero like, a year ago.. and, since deleted it for obvious reasons but there's reuploads out there. I'm not positive when he deleted it, though, if that's what you're wondering but I'd assume shortly after the leaks regarding that zoosadist group.
“Fyre fest might be the worst festival in history” Astro world said hold my beer after hearing that
Fyre Festival was bad in a funny memeable way, Astroworld was just tragic.
I live in mead, spokane Washington, and EVERYONE that lives here pronounces it Spo-can not Spu-kane...
too bad bud
I get it, I live in Nevada and anyone east of like Colorado massacre the pronunciation.
Rewatched the original video not too long ago , time to rewatch it again ;3
9:55 that foreshadowing was stunning
I know it’s been said already, but my guess is that the cameraman was the saboteur because in the clip where the guy says he is almost certain who it is, he looks directly at the camera a couple times. If he can’t legally say something, but is unhappy about it, he’d likely nudge people in the direction of the perpetrator.
I’m 2 years to late to the comment section but if you go to a con Historian you should go as RayCon Man!
Only three years and it feels like a different world!
as someone from Spokane, it has an e. It's should be "Spo-cane"
Nah, your opinion is wrong
I was at MFF that year and from conversations with staff, there's no real belief that it was an attack.
I dont trust people who say they're an "authoritative source" from a "community"
17:20 "It was a janitor cleaning the pool all along, and they didn't want to take responsibility."
Well, you know what that calls for: POOL'S CLOSED. xD
exactly my reaction aswelll
Looking forward to that fire festival video!
Timur Batukayev It's already out, this video is a reupload
Harold, for your closing question: it's because the got all them teef, but no toofbrush
13:37 this is like asking how all of history happened.... this is literally the entire world!
Does Internet Herstorian not like doing videos? I really liked the first Q&A with the two of you.
4:31 as a person who lives around that area I wholeheartedly agree
Oh thank goodness, I’ve been dying to see the Rainfurrest one.
I smashed that subscribe button as hard as I could, but now I need a new mouse. This is your fault. I demand compensation.
It was Internet Historian. Let's be honest.