Denzel as T'Chaka & John David Washington aka Denzel’s real son as T’challa, and have them come from different multiverses. T’Chaka’s universe has faught Doom and lost everything including his T’Challa & Wakanda. Then there’s the RDJ Doom universe with our new T’Challa who has to prepare for Doom with his dad’s help.
Since I knew they wouldn't recast t'challa I was hoping they would make killmonger king of the dead. Kinda like a sudo black panther. Him making up for what he has done and bast resurrecting killmonger during a desperate time. Idk would of been cool. Michael b Jordan would of killed it.
RDJ's return is irrelevant to opening the door to the multiverse. Johnathan Majors, who now has NO CHARGES against him, already did that. Why is KANG not returning?
Either we make it like black panther escapes death with recast or it’s not tchalla from our universe and the son is just a kid without a father until the recast version appears
I don't know why anybody thought that Marvel wouldn't recast T'challa. Just bcuz they didn't recast immediately didn't mean the recast would've happen. Boseman was beloved... nothin wrong with paying tribute to him. As far as the kid as the new T'Challa... thats stupid
Marvel probably should have delayed Black Panther 2. Part of the decision to not recast was the crew not wanting that, but I’d imagine they’d feel differently after some time had passed. Another in a long line of mistakes they made post endgame
Tchalla will be in Secret Wars most likely as the King of the Dead. Shuri was still Black Panther so it could work. Give it a couple films and the audience will literally crown him as the new king by BP 3
I am a comic book fan, I'm a black man I just want the character of T'Chala back not his son using his name. With a good story. While we're at it a comic book accurate Zuri not what they did after the movies I mean the bad ass one in the comics from before.
Personally, I think the whole situation put them in a horrible spot……they would get backlash ether way they went after Chadwick passed. Re cast him and people would be mad, do what they did in WF and people were mad, and if they decided to not do the character anymore people would be mad………so it is what it is for me. But I’d rather have the black panther back then not
Ryan, i agree that Disney is trying to shoehorn their biggest brands into their overall female dominant branding. Great way to explain it. I think ultimately they can make the 2nd movie better, as they didn't make Shuri the Queen,Mbaku is King.... So even they left the door open for Tchalla jr. Or a multiverse option. I thought they should've just waited on black panther to bring him back in the reboot, but if they can find a way to bring him back after not officially making her Queen as she's still grieving.... It can make that story actually better with an aged up son and actually recast tchalla in a way that makes sense. I don't think a multiverse Wakanda made sense at the time. Now with them spread across the world, it makes more sense
I know some folks aren’t going to get this… but there’s a racial component to this. If I’m a black actor in Hollywood and I’m familiar with Chadwick’s body of work on and OFF screen…. The last thing I would want to do is feel like I’m diminishing his legacy as a up and coming black actor in Hollywood. Because there are barely male black actors that are pulling staring roles and getting a great paycheck …. Not like the days of old. Do you remember Sean Connery, or Timothy Dalton…. Of course not…. But I say Daniel Craig the name “Bond, James Bond” immediately comes to mind. So who would want to go there with Chadwick’s legacy? So the list of black actors who I think might say yes are as follows - in 3rd place Rege-Jean Page… he left Bridgerton and has been hungry for a check ever since. 2nd place would be Aldis Hodge who plays Alex Cross on Amazon Prime. Hey I’d even thrown in D-Train from the Boys as a wild card. But I’m not sure who would be on top of executives list at this point. And yes I think it’s going to have to be a variant of Chadwick from another universe - the only way out… is through.
I’m with you on this one Josh. Marvels attempt to make all these girls clubs has brought it down. Even What if became a girls club… What If the girls became the dominant heroes… well it would suck!
None of it makes sense Why get an aged of variant of TJ When you can just toss 616 TJ into the quantum realm & age him up Something is getting lost in translation
It was not just the movies to have the “female club” but also the male dominated video games and comics thus causing the quality, story ark, and material to be “water down” versions of the original……..smdh
WF was a miserable movie. They didn't need to recast, but T'challa didn't need to die. He could have existed off screen like Brian in Fast and Furious.
Den of nerds.... TAKE A BOW SON. for your take on the, you are officially speaking for the recast T'Challa movement. I am exactly the same, can't watch it again since the cinema.
Too bad marvel doesnt have Pocahontas/Mermaid princess as comic Hero. Who knows maybe they'd found a Barbie Like Character If Disney researched better.
Marvel: we have news about the casting of Tchalla, there is no actor yet for the role of Tchalla..... ok so you don't have an update would be a more accurate statement. I was really excited when I saw these videos dropping and I could get to them after work. I spent 10 minutes watching another video for the summary to be exactly that.... just announce stuff when it's ready I'm so sick of this kind of advertising
If RDJ suddenly passed right before infinity war or endgame would yall want them to recast him…Hell no yall wouldn’t!!!! Chadwick poured everything into the character of black panther and we fell in love with his interpretation of black panther and the passion he put into the role that transcended just the movie screen he inspired a whole generation of kids and they did the right thing respecting his legacy and waiting for enough time to pass. Imagine trying to watch this new guy carry a story with a whole different vibe and make it fit with the chemistry of a whole cast thats dealing with the loss of a friend..yall gotta start thinking about things more from just our own selfish perspectives
You’re a movie fan. Not a marvel fan. You’ve never read stories about tchalla. He’s bigger than an actor. Much bigger. He has some of the best stories in all of comics.
Actually I’m a fan of both. But I’m also a logical person!! I’m not saying never recast the character but that they should allow enough time to past because if they don’t then the movie suffers which effects the storyline for the character itself. Using the multiverse makes sense because it doesn’t step on what chads version did while giving us a new one. This way the can say the new BP has history with Dr Doom and it works and we can still get the storyline with storm because X-men weren’t in chads BP universe either. Comic books don’t need chemistry movies do!!!!!
@@adonishardaway5106 not if the actor will never be seen on screen again. The story line is over and new story has to be made. You guys seem to forget he wasn’t just in 1 movie he was in 4 and was very prominent in the other 3 and an animated series. So chemistry amongst the other actors would be an issue and it would come off weird on screen for them to implant a new one with the same supporting cast which takes away from the movie. Rhodey, Ross, are easy to sub out because they weren’t main characters or super prominent when they were replaced. Hulk replacement worked because there had only been one hulk movie and enough time had passed that we were not super attached to him…again if RDJ died before infinity war would you want him replaced?? Or them to let time pass before they try to replace him???
It's the stupid decisions that marvel made ( like getting rid of Tony and Cap and not recasting T'Challa) that will lead to their downfall... Gunn must be loving the news... Now he'll cast Gina Corano as Wonder Woman just to rub it in Disney's face...
Getting rid of Tony and cap was the right move. Those endings needed to happen I'm not saying what they brought out after was good or well-received for the most part but the initial thought of ending those stories what's good
They didn’t “get rid” of them. They said they wanted to move on to other things. Some of y’all are clueless. Josh included sometimes. The OG actors can’t play these characters forever. Real life logic has to be applied. You have to let them go one day.
@@MrRobinson758 yeah I agreed with you! Some actors cannot played these characters like forever or decades. Foolish people are always thinking about this.
It all depends on who they cast for me . Aldis Hodge would be awesome with John David Washington. If it’s one of the crappy British actors then it’s a no for me
Seems strange to hear Jeff say it’s fair to assume Ryan Coogler is more likely to help cast the new black panther, considering he first showed in cap civil war, directed by the Russo bros. Did they not cast Chadwick Boseman ? LMK if I’m wrong but I’d assume the directors of the film he first appeared in helped in the casting the first time around.
Recast Tchalla with Denzel’s son & FIRE RYAN COOGLER AS THE DIRECTOR! Let the Russo Bros supervise BP3 & Beyond. They the only directors to get Tchalla right.
Idk about fire him 😂. Little extreme considering circumstances that his lead actor died after one of the most successful marvel movies period in the first black panther movie. Now Denzel's son fit, so would the guy who plays Alex cross and maybe lakeith... He just has to present himself and play a hero king ... That's a different type of persona so they have to convey that . Black panther doesn't just make choices, he always has wakanda in front of it all holding one of the strongest elements in all of marvel... Vibranium
I am at the thought that it was very unfair of Chadwick Boseman to not disclose his illness. I mean it’s heartbreaking and he did a great job, but I don’t think anybody owes him any sort of loyalty whatsoever.
Denzel as T'Chaka & John David Washington aka Denzel’s real son as T’challa, and have them come from different multiverses. T’Chaka’s universe has faught Doom and lost everything including his T’Challa & Wakanda. Then there’s the RDJ Doom universe with our new T’Challa who has to prepare for Doom with his dad’s help.
Since I knew they wouldn't recast t'challa I was hoping they would make killmonger king of the dead. Kinda like a sudo black panther. Him making up for what he has done and bast resurrecting killmonger during a desperate time. Idk would of been cool. Michael b Jordan would of killed it.
I wanted something similar to that too. A redeemed Killmonger would have been awesome 🔥
Please Cast Damson idris or Aldis hodge as T'challa 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Great picks 👍
Those are my top 2 picks too 🔥🔥
@@TerrellAustin19941 though if damson gets it it'd be funny to see tchalla serving the other avengers some hard lol
Maaan just finished Snowfall. Damson is my favorite actor right now Marvel would be lucky to get they hands on Damson for any role
or Michael James Shaw
Going with the kid is a dumb ass idea. Bring in another OG King T’Challa. Fiege can’t let these terrible decisions continue.
Unpopular opinion but Feige is the issue with the MCU
RDJ's return is irrelevant to opening the door to the multiverse.
Johnathan Majors, who now has NO CHARGES against him, already did that.
Why is KANG not returning?
as they say; The road to hell is full of good intentions.
Killing off tchalla and then bringing back tchalla by recasting tchalla... Idk how that works
Either we make it like black panther escapes death with recast or it’s not tchalla from our universe and the son is just a kid without a father until the recast version appears
The Son of T'challa should become the new black Panther. Maybe re- introduce him as a teenager who eventually grows up to become Black Panther.
Dude why can’t we get a new Black Panther??
There’s a sad 😞 video of chad saying he’s dead but nobody knew what he was talking about then but now they do know what he was trying to say
I don't know why anybody thought that Marvel wouldn't recast T'challa. Just bcuz they didn't recast immediately didn't mean the recast would've happen. Boseman was beloved... nothin wrong with paying tribute to him.
As far as the kid as the new T'Challa... thats stupid
Marvel probably should have delayed Black Panther 2. Part of the decision to not recast was the crew not wanting that, but I’d imagine they’d feel differently after some time had passed. Another in a long line of mistakes they made post endgame
Tchalla will be in Secret Wars most likely as the King of the Dead. Shuri was still Black Panther so it could work. Give it a couple films and the audience will literally crown him as the new king by BP 3
Black Panther should have been re-casted immediately.
U feel that way but Marvel wouldve had alot of Backlash to this day
@@StandOnBizness5From who? The woke?
I am a comic book fan, I'm a black man I just want the character of T'Chala back not his son using his name.
With a good story. While we're at it a comic book accurate Zuri not what they did after the movies I mean the bad ass one in the comics from before.
Thank you
Damson idris would be the perfect casting.
Personally, I think the whole situation put them in a horrible spot……they would get backlash ether way they went after Chadwick passed. Re cast him and people would be mad, do what they did in WF and people were mad, and if they decided to not do the character anymore people would be mad………so it is what it is for me. But I’d rather have the black panther back then not
Ryan, i agree that Disney is trying to shoehorn their biggest brands into their overall female dominant branding. Great way to explain it. I think ultimately they can make the 2nd movie better, as they didn't make Shuri the Queen,Mbaku is King.... So even they left the door open for Tchalla jr. Or a multiverse option.
I thought they should've just waited on black panther to bring him back in the reboot, but if they can find a way to bring him back after not officially making her Queen as she's still grieving.... It can make that story actually better with an aged up son and actually recast tchalla in a way that makes sense. I don't think a multiverse Wakanda made sense at the time. Now with them spread across the world, it makes more sense
I know some folks aren’t going to get this… but there’s a racial component to this. If I’m a black actor in Hollywood and I’m familiar with Chadwick’s body of work on and OFF screen…. The last thing I would want to do is feel like I’m diminishing his legacy as a up and coming black actor in Hollywood. Because there are barely male black actors that are pulling staring roles and getting a great paycheck …. Not like the days of old. Do you remember Sean Connery, or Timothy Dalton…. Of course not…. But I say Daniel Craig the name “Bond, James Bond” immediately comes to mind. So who would want to go there with Chadwick’s legacy? So the list of black actors who I think might say yes are as follows - in 3rd place Rege-Jean Page… he left Bridgerton and has been hungry for a check ever since. 2nd place would be Aldis Hodge who plays Alex Cross on Amazon Prime. Hey I’d even thrown in D-Train from the Boys as a wild card. But I’m not sure who would be on top of executives list at this point. And yes I think it’s going to have to be a variant of Chadwick from another universe - the only way out… is through.
They are not doing the kid. That son is going to disappear like the other Winslow kid on Family Matters.
I was hoping they’d do an rdj dr doom and make michael b jordan a tchalla variant like in another timeline tchalla dad died instead of killmonger’s
I’m with you on this one Josh. Marvels attempt to make all these girls clubs has brought it down. Even What if became a girls club… What If the girls became the dominant heroes… well it would suck!
Lately, all Marvel movies are the "girls club."
None of it makes sense
Why get an aged of variant of TJ
When you can just toss 616 TJ into the quantum realm & age him up
Something is getting lost in translation
It was not just the movies to have the “female club” but also the male dominated video games and comics thus causing the quality, story ark, and material
to be “water down” versions of the original……..smdh
So it would be two version of the same kid at different ages in the same universe
WF was a miserable movie. They didn't need to recast, but T'challa didn't need to die. He could have existed off screen like Brian in Fast and Furious.
Den of nerds.... TAKE A BOW SON. for your take on the, you are officially speaking for the recast T'Challa movement.
I am exactly the same, can't watch it again since the cinema.
Too bad marvel doesnt have Pocahontas/Mermaid princess as comic Hero. Who knows maybe they'd found a Barbie Like Character If Disney researched better.
Marvel: we have news about the casting of Tchalla, there is no actor yet for the role of Tchalla..... ok so you don't have an update would be a more accurate statement. I was really excited when I saw these videos dropping and I could get to them after work. I spent 10 minutes watching another video for the summary to be exactly that.... just announce stuff when it's ready I'm so sick of this kind of advertising
So RDJ really is saving marvel😂
yes Josh!
Te’Child wakanda forever!!!
He's a good actor been watching him since tv show Leverage his new show Cross is good too
i think Aaron Pierre turn it down, if not him then it was Damson Idris
as he should have
Taimak Guarriello...as an older illuminati Black Panther
If RDJ suddenly passed right before infinity war or endgame would yall want them to recast him…Hell no yall wouldn’t!!!! Chadwick poured everything into the character of black panther and we fell in love with his interpretation of black panther and the passion he put into the role that transcended just the movie screen he inspired a whole generation of kids and they did the right thing respecting his legacy and waiting for enough time to pass. Imagine trying to watch this new guy carry a story with a whole different vibe and make it fit with the chemistry of a whole cast thats dealing with the loss of a friend..yall gotta start thinking about things more from just our own selfish perspectives
You’re a movie fan. Not a marvel fan. You’ve never read stories about tchalla. He’s bigger than an actor. Much bigger. He has some of the best stories in all of comics.
Actually I’m a fan of both. But I’m also a logical person!! I’m not saying never recast the character but that they should allow enough time to past because if they don’t then the movie suffers which effects the storyline for the character itself. Using the multiverse makes sense because it doesn’t step on what chads version did while giving us a new one. This way the can say the new BP has history with Dr Doom and it works and we can still get the storyline with storm because X-men weren’t in chads BP universe either. Comic books don’t need chemistry movies do!!!!!
@@ovadoseod lmao them killing the character in a dumb way literally affected the storyline
@@adonishardaway5106 not if the actor will never be seen on screen again. The story line is over and new story has to be made. You guys seem to forget he wasn’t just in 1 movie he was in 4 and was very prominent in the other 3 and an animated series. So chemistry amongst the other actors would be an issue and it would come off weird on screen for them to implant a new one with the same supporting cast which takes away from the movie. Rhodey, Ross, are easy to sub out because they weren’t main characters or super prominent when they were replaced. Hulk replacement worked because there had only been one hulk movie and enough time had passed that we were not super attached to him…again if RDJ died before infinity war would you want him replaced?? Or them to let time pass before they try to replace him???
@ lmao he was not prominent in endgame or infinity war stop the cap his story line wasn’t even close to over and went out terribly stop the cap
Maybe he'll come from the new Fantastic Four universe.
Robert Downey jr. Is on the island list😢😢😢😢
It's the stupid decisions that marvel made ( like getting rid of Tony and Cap and not recasting T'Challa) that will lead to their downfall... Gunn must be loving the news... Now he'll cast Gina Corano as Wonder Woman just to rub it in Disney's face...
Getting rid of Tony and cap was the right move. Those endings needed to happen I'm not saying what they brought out after was good or well-received for the most part but the initial thought of ending those stories what's good
@spencerpommier806 yep get rid of the 2 main characters of ur whole cinematic universe with nobody ready to take their place.... Great decision...
@@jasondearham8243they can’t go one forever dude and plus the actors wanted to move on most likely
They didn’t “get rid” of them. They said they wanted to move on to other things. Some of y’all are clueless. Josh included sometimes. The OG actors can’t play these characters forever. Real life logic has to be applied. You have to let them go one day.
@@MrRobinson758 yeah I agreed with you! Some actors cannot played these characters like forever or decades. Foolish people are always thinking about this.
It all depends on who they cast for me . Aldis Hodge would be awesome with John David Washington. If it’s one of the crappy British actors then it’s a no for me
6 years too late
Never
Not too late but definitely late
There was 6 years between Guardian movies.
First black panther success but 2nd one sucked and a failure sadly
other credible places say otherwise!
like who???
BP3 will flop if they implement the child. #RecastTChalla son of T’Chaka.
Shh. Stop spreading negatively
@ You shh 🤫.
It would be the biggest flop in history.
Seems strange to hear Jeff say it’s fair to assume Ryan Coogler is more likely to help cast the new black panther, considering he first showed in cap civil war, directed by the Russo bros. Did they not cast Chadwick Boseman ? LMK if I’m wrong but I’d assume the directors of the film he first appeared in helped in the casting the first time around.
No Shade... but why are they consulting Chadwicks family?
Respect
good points.
Please give us a white t'challa as the ultimate antiwoke slap in the multiverse 🙏🏼
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
Recast Tchalla with Denzel’s son & FIRE RYAN COOGLER AS THE DIRECTOR! Let the Russo Bros supervise BP3 & Beyond. They the only directors to get Tchalla right.
Idk about fire him 😂. Little extreme considering circumstances that his lead actor died after one of the most successful marvel movies period in the first black panther movie. Now Denzel's son fit, so would the guy who plays Alex cross and maybe lakeith... He just has to present himself and play a hero king ... That's a different type of persona so they have to convey that . Black panther doesn't just make choices, he always has wakanda in front of it all holding one of the strongest elements in all of marvel... Vibranium
What!
I am at the thought that it was very unfair of Chadwick Boseman to not disclose his illness. I mean it’s heartbreaking and he did a great job, but I don’t think anybody owes him any sort of loyalty whatsoever.
Why not Michael B Jordan? It would be a fine multiversal twist.