HydrosPlus Pump Upgrade - Double the Hydraulic Flow in Your Tractor
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.พ. 2024
- Hydros plus performance kit install on a John Deere 2038R
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Remember this formula: HP= GPM x PSI x .0007. from this you know how many HP you have, throttle speed controls your flow, relief valves control max pressure. As long as your framework (bucket and back hoe) can handle the increase in force generated by the larger cylinders you will get more work done. The force generated by the cylinders is PUSH [3.14 x (Cylinder radius x Cylinder radius)] x pressure. PULL is [3.14 x (Cylinder radius x Cylinder radius) - 3.14 x (Rod diameter/2 x Rod diameter/2)] x pressure. Diameters are in inches, force will be in pounds.
Great video Brock, thanks!
Man, this is next level! You got my wheels turning now...
Looks like a must have.
Great video Brock. I really appreciate your opinion on this upgrade that I have thought about often.
Nice video Brock. I will have to check with them on upgrading my Kubota
I run the Lane Shark on my 3033R, and I just love that thing, it works so easy to cut and clean up trees and brush. Once you get, one you will love it!! They are so easy to work with also before and after the sale. They are working on a design to be able to hydraulic adjust the angle on the fly...
I've been following along this upgrade series with you Brock, really quite impressive.
Trying to find the exact same thing for my Deere Skid steer for a couple years now - ways to boost the 320G with some upgraded parts to increase performance.. and an LED kid to replace those empty cutouts they have for the side facing lights on the cab.
The ability to find a tier 4 delete kit would be a huge bonus, and a Hydro upgrade would really top things off.
I thought it may be possible to order some parts like the hydraulic rams from their 340 series skid to beef it up but no idea where one would start.
I have not been able to find any Tier 4 delete kits or hydro upgrades for these skid steers at all, let alone videos like you have done here.
Thanks for sharing!
Great information. As a new tractor owner and self diagnosed tinkerer, I’ve been loving this series of videos. I probably won’t perform these mods on my new L3302, but my father in law’s paid off BX could use some love.
Great video Brock I’ve been interested in doing the same with the Hydrosplus upgraded pump. You’ve just made my decision easier. 👍
Glad I could help. Tomorrow’s video is an eye opener
Been following hydrosplus for a while. When my warranty is out, I’ll be doing this, plus waiting on the final product for his turbo kit that he’s prototyping now
Awesome upgrade. I think it's better to have more than you need and not have to run it wide open. Just the pump upgrade made an obvious difference.
Nice video! Now to do some research and see if there's something similar for my New Holland. My grapple moves painfully slow unless I'm at full throttle - and I don't really want to be at full throttle while doing grapple work.
Looks like a nice upgrade. I’m thinking it will be easier to break things especially when you go to bigger cylinders.
Brock, those are gonna be great upgrades. That is going to be like a whole new machine when your done
If it doesn't brake first
@@davidsmathers5621 anything is possible. Chance people take. I'm sure it will work plenty of hours just fine
You "Know" this is GOING to put You "WAY Over the TOP" on the "likes& Hits" on your channel ; Mr.Brock. Thank you Sir for the Excelent vidio and happy safe tractoring. Best wishes with all your endeavours.
Thanks for watching
Making these videos is a job themselves.
Good work.
Thanks
I'm interested to see at what point stuff starts to break, great video!
New tractor
Nice!!
I've got a 3025e and changed the pump and cylinders on the loader. Big time game changer. Well worth the money with the difference its made
Yeah, I did those two upgrades and my cylinders on the backhoe. Very happy.
I did the pump and cylinders in 2022. After watching you I'm going to do the pressure adjustment and upgrade my backhoe cylinders. Never used that backhoe yet but I will if itll work like yours has now. Thanks Hydrosplus and thank you brother for your research
Good morning Brock. This is all well above my paygrade but I'm curious if you could do the backhoe test one more time with the increased hydraulic flow just for curiosities sake. But, I wouldn't want you to do any damage to your tractor like the hydraulic cylinders or anything. God bless and have a wonderful day. 👍👍🙂
You definitely are going to have the flow.Upgrading the cylinders is a different animal.No matter which pump you use,the cross sectional area of an upgraded cylinder is going to increase stress on the super structure of the loader.It has too.The new pump will definitely fill the larger bore of an upgraded cylinder,But at what cost?You should do a cross sectional Hyd calculation and show the difference between the 2 cylinders.I like these kinds of vids.Everybody learns something,even if the tractor may become the victim.
For details and in-depth information hydros plus is the guy to ask that question
I just grunt and do whatever pops into my head. I don’t know how anything works.
Something to consider. To fast can equal broken parts. I worked on a railroad gang in the 90’s. I have seen upgrades just like you are doing. Seemed great at first until the metal around the cylinders fatigued and started breaking. Be careful in the long run you will probably see more issues from the higher speed and or stronger cylinders if you go with bigger cylinders. Good luck.
Hey brock you need to check out the mower that sawing with sandy has for the front of his tractor
I was one of the first purchasers of the Hydros Plus 2R3E solution pump back in 2022. I had need of 10gpm+ performance for a piece of equipment that I have (Hoelscher 1000 bale accumulator). These pumps totally transform the tractor's abilities and efficiencies. The Hydros Plus pump is also made of steel rather than the factory aluminum pump. I have also made other Hydros Plus upgrades.
I installed the Stage 1 pump without removing the mid mount mower deck lift system. It was not easy having that in the way. I have subsequently installed the Stage 2 pump and chose to remove the mid mount mower deck lift system resulting in a much easier process of removing and installing pumps.
Is this the stage 2 pump or stage 1? I installed the Stage 1 last year and been very happy with it. And your description of the install process is spot on.
Yeah, I believe it’s the newer version
I just want to increase the hydralic pressure on my 1925r, just one full turn, tractor only can do so much. I also will increase the throttle a bit, get the engine to produce the 25hp that is made for.
When you chose to make a change like this you put yourself in the shoes of the engineers who made the original choices for that tractor. They would/should have had questions in mind like "what's safe?", "what's affordable?", "what fits?", "How do we keep this model tractor in it's place in the line-up?". It'll be fun not to be constrained to keep from robbing market share from bigger tractors. While I don't want to be called "Safety Sally", the point of my comment is just this: Keep it safe, and have fun doing whatever you can afford to do.
Very interesting Brock , I have a J.D. 3033R that also has the mid mount mower hdw....How hard was it to get that pump switched out ? Looking forward to your upgrade videos on this.
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Good stuff! Are you doing this to keep from wanting to go to a bigger tractor? Its going to be a very capable machine after all these upgrades.
Something like that
If you have it in your notes, what is the inside diameter of the suction hose?
I wonder if this upgrade would drive your Harley Rake?....if you can adapt the Deere to skid steer type connection
I did skid steer upgrade on my 4066r on loader and love it from factory
How long did it take you to install it?
Don't forget to bleed the air our of your lines!
This system is self bleeding
Morning
Morning
@@RockhillfarmYT maybe for 200,00 subscribers you can have a pump give away that fits a 4020 bobcat 🤪. And a anytime use of the attachment's u want or have 🤪
Morning. Running late this morning... 🤠
@@Cowboy_Steve at least you are still running 🤪
What is the higher continuous HP draw and heat load when just going over relief.
Fluid is only flowing across the relief when the pressure exceeds relief set point (3k psi or so) from maxed out cylinder travel or maxed out load limit, When no function is being called for by the operator the pump flow is being directed to tank and will not sheer across relief and cause continuous heat or hp draw
@@T_Humphries thanks for your comment. I looked deeper and see the flow path is open center on the control valves so that is correct. Just don't keep asking for movement if a function is deadhead. Thanks again for making me look deeper into the flow path.
@@keithriemersma9793 Y'sir!!
How much more will it lift? Or you just have more flow?
This video is just more flow. The video I’m releasing tomorrow is how much will it lift. That requires you to change the cylinders
1) I hope your warranty has already expired, because if you had any left, it is now void. JD is really shitty about stuff like that.
2) 2 functions at once - Observe when it's actually under load doing some work. Hydraulic flow is going to follow the path of least resistance.
3) Be careful with the idea of changing to larger bore cylinders. You may end up exceeding the strength of material of the implement itself, like the attachment points (pin diameters) and the frame in general.
What about the cost of this pump????
I put a link in the video description. It’s about 1600.
God, people gonna be tearing their tractors in two! That hoe works like my 710g, I want one...
You forgot I gave you something to put over the blade to keep that from happening....
To keep what from happening
Are you saying that Deere John didn't design it very well ???????
Not sure I follow you. I take the V6 engine out of my truck and put in a V8 that doesn’t mean that the manufacture had a port design. It means that I wanted more power.
There are a lot of factors to consider when designing a piece of equipment, and one of them is the cost.
Did that blueberry on your thumb come from the pump job 🤔
No. I was sliding pallet forks across the floor about a month ago and smashed it.
Do you ask people on the street questions like this? If you do, you're what's wrong with the world 🌎 today. Like, who asks this? Gotta love the internet.
@@LIFEISHARDSTUPID I disagree with your analysis of my question, if you're afraid to communicate your misshapes and help others to not be in the same situation you're what's wrong with the world today. I've had plenty of blueberries and was never offended by someone showing interest and listening to my story, usually it comes from sympathy.
Surprised they dont pack and plug the pump from the factory to avoid any mistakes buy a diy installer.
Is that the same pump for your hydrostatic drive or is that a separate pump, if so I bet you would really see the difference in the feel of your hydrostatic
separate. this is for steering, 3 point, & attachments only. Transmission has its own pump.
Do the recommended changing the hydrostatic pump also? And how would it effect travel speed and pulling power? Thanks
Watched this 2 minutes and I'm dumber, please get to tge point. I know you have a video length you are trying to reach. How's the ram transmission?
I have never intentionally added to a a video to make it a certain length.
I cut them down as short as I can without leaving out what I consider to be important information
@@RockhillfarmYT okay, I'm needing to replace my pump on an old skidsteer and trying to figure out how far I can go and work within the confines of my system. I watch a lot of youtube and when seeking information I like people who get to the point. We've all had enough of Kamala word salad.
Yup! Microwave is not fast enough for us, at this day and age! @ a rabbit style right? Girls hate that, 😂😂.
It’s cool but cannot help thinking you maybe just need a bigger tractor……
Didn't sound like Brock was interested in taking on additional debt, I suspect he will sell that skid steer at some point and fall into a sweetheart deal like TTWT has with leases.
Also he has invested a lot in making this tractor perfect for him so he would have to start most of that over on a new tractor.
@@davidmays2161 the fact he already has a skid steer which can carry the implements he talked about in the video makes this look even more of an upgrade for the sake of an upgrade. I appreciate there is a constant search for new content to stay relevant.
@@hagak1679 he has spent a lot of money trying to get his small tractor to perform like a bigger tractor or match the competition. It’s not like he works in confined areas where such a small unit is required. I agree with @davidmays2161 the skid steer will go and a bigger tractor will arrive when a suitable deal is worked out.
I have too much debt on these two machines. I may end up with one machine that’s between the size of the two. Hard to say what’s going to happen. If I did sell the skid steer, I need to be able to move logs with something.
On some level I’m just a guinea pig for showing people what you can do if you want to.