Actually, there's a major difference between the movie Ron and the book Ron. The movie Ron was just there because he was a key character in the books. The movies would have gladly killed him. The book Ron was street smart and reliable.
How do i not remember that? I've read the entire series a few times over in my teens..... Ron struck me as arrogant selfish stupid uncouth unreliable at best. He literally abandoned his team in thier darkest hour. If thier is angst in the "golden trio" it is ALWAYS r9n who starts it and usually can't even be asked to apologize. He spends pretty much the entire series as a hanger on of Harry's and even worse, will enjoy benefiting off Harry's fame, which Harry dislikes, he will even throw jealousy Harry's way... He constantly doubts his closest friends. He is weak. He is kinda ugly. He IS stupid. Being great at chess doesn't make you smart. Sure. Plot has dictated that Ron be present at important times and events. But honestly?... anyone else could have done his work. Literally. Anyone else. Besides the chess part, there isn't anything he did that was truly special and not doable by others. He was just in the right place at the right time. He has extreamly low self confidence, but walks around with a false "you're no better than me" attitude. He is just kinda pathetic. And worst of all... he got with hermione... for no logical reason. Hermione has spent most of the books being disgusted with him or neutral at best. He has made her cry half a dozen times and again, couldn't even be asked to feel bad about it most times. If Ron was a real life person and he wanted to be my friend... I would say thanks by no thanks.
@It's Aahana .M strong? Beautiful? He's an idiot. He's looks like a boy even when fully grown. He has no sense of decorum. He is ACTUALLY RACIST. The term mudblood is like saying the n word... and he called he best friend that. Imagine marrying a woman you called the n word..... I get it. You like the flawed character redemption. You must like big goofs. But in my head, his existence held Harry back... big time. Harry should have been studying and preparing. He should have been pushing himself to get stronger, wiser. But Ron was a massive distraction. Even worse than that, he actively dissuaded Harry away from doing what would have been in Harry's best interest. He is as bad as it gets without being evil. I can go on and on. Harry is interested in his sister. He blows up. Harry gets special attention, he blows up. Hermione gets attention, he blows up. He is an insecure little shit. And I know, you probably think that's cute. But it's not to me. It's pathetic. You see, nevil is also insecure. He lacks confidence as well. But he doesn't inflict his issues on others. Ron literally knows how much Harry hates being the boy who lives and he spends the first 5 books being a jealous pray about it. He simply doesn't think about consequences, or the safety and feelings of others. He is always his own first priority and even expects others to act as such. He's stupid comedy runtime is grating. Lol hahaha he is stupid!! Lol. Look at him eat like an idiot! Lol. Yeah, .... no. It's annoying. Being able to stand up on broken legs blah blah blah, doesn't wipe the other shit he did clean. Ron is the fuck up of the group. Who only succeeds in life because jk Rowling said so. In real life, a guy like that would get ripped apart and thrown from any self respecting group.
The movies never wanted to kill him, JK Rowling actually planned to kill him in the books. Watch the sit down "interview" between JK and Dan Radcliffe, she said she planned to kill him but realised she was in a dark place at that time in her life and was taking it out on the story. Its why she killed Lupin and Tonks despite them being some of her fave characters.
@@langthegang8677 That would explain why the movie writers disrespected the Ron character. I'm not a big enough fan of the Harry Potter series to care about delving into the continuing process. I always thought that Rowling had a rather haphazard idea of who lived and died. The books were still better than the movies.
Yeah, she didn't even mention he was friends with the most powerful Dark Lord of the time and wanted to rule over Muggles... Apparently, him being gay means he's not innocent...
I wouldn't say street smart. He's just good at planning for events and possibilities which is why he's so good at chess. I would have enjoyed seeing him actually help more with strategy in the events leading up to the battle, it would have been a nice boost of self esteem for his character to get to be asked to help. He could have gotten out of Harry's shadow a bit more.
I am still upset that Hedwig got killed off. Especially the way she went in the book. She was the first real gift Harry ever received in his life, and she was a very loyal companion. She deserved better.
“Hermione and Ron’s relationship wouldn’t always be filled with gumdrops and lemon squares”… No relationship ever is, that doesn’t mean they can’t be happy together. I get the feeling they could potentially compliment each other pretty well. Hermione is smarter then Ron which can’t be denied, (she’s smarter then darn near everyone) but Ron isn’t exactly dumb. Remember who won the chess game, who learned to say open in Parsletongue after hearing it said one time, and who came up with the idea to use the fangs from the chamber of secrets to destroy horcruxes?!
All you wrote is true except that Ron did not learn to say open in parsletounge by hearing it once, he says himself that he learnt it because harry talked in his sleep
@@Lydiazz1818 he actually learned it by hearing it twice, I forgot the whole ordeal with the locket but hearing him talk in his sleep wouldn’t accomplish anything. He would only use parseltongue in his sleep if he were either a snake or talking to one in his sleep and even if he was speaking parseltongue in his mouth it would only sound like a long string of sounds and it would be next to impossible to figure out where one single syllable or multi syllable word ended and the next began and completely impossible to figure out what each word meant as Harry was sleeping and Ron had nothing to associate the sounds too.
I always thought it was pretty obvious that Snape was grooming and preparing Harry in how to cope with the horrifying things he was about to see and do. Snape had both seen and traveled the deepest depths of the dark side. He knew one must have a certain degree of mental fortitude to cope with it, and he knew that Harry was going to be thrown head first into that pit with zero care in the world. So he deliberately pushed Harry gradually down that path and prepared him for it and taught him how to fight to keep ones sanity and love for life.
I disagree. It was Dumbledore who was grooming Harry. Snape didn't learn about it till Deathly Hallows! However Because of his love for Lily he felt responsible for Harry in her stead.
Ron in the books was much more likable. He was more charming, more outgoing, more popular and had good street smarts even if he was scared at times. The movie made him rather pathetic but in truth he was much more courageous and had strong loyalty to Harry even when he was mad at Harry. He was much more relatable because he was funny and petty at times. He knew a lot so he was obvious Y the person who helped Harry and Hermoine a lot. Loved loved loved his character. To me Hermoine was less charismatic by comparison in the book. She was much more feminine than the movie. She had courage but was more timid and not afraid to be scared. She depended just as much on Ron as Harry. It’s obvious to me how Ron and Hermoine ended up as a couple. They were worlds apart in some aspects but together they fit like a puzzle. I don’t like the movie as much as it made Hermoine seem like she was much stronger and more street smart than she actually was in the book. What pissed me off the most was when she took a lot of Ron’s important lines.
Ron was by far better in the books. But stop with the strong loyalty shit. He abandoned twice and while he regrets both times. Nothing is ever done about that, nothing fundamentally changes about Ron to correct this very bad character flaw. Really Ron is not stupid but Ron is honestly a D student who barely passes his classes and mostly due to the fact that Hermione did most of his homework for him or Harry did. Without those two Ron is 21 and still in hogwarts. Not because he is stupid but because he is lazy, he is the picture of unambitious and that is his flaw with Hermione. Hermione is ambitious, clever, driven, and wants to make a difference in the world. Ron is the polar opposite. He wants nothing more than to be handed everything, and he doesn't care if anything changes. He is a literally hinderence to Hermione. WE see this in the eulog where Ron brags to Harry that he got his license by just casting a spell on the instructor. Hermione asked him to go get a license that was it. Not fight Voldemort, to go get a license which most 15-16 years get fairly easily. So rather than learning something, putting in a minute amount of effort he just did the easiest thing and lied to Hermione about it. And then bragged to Harry about it. That alone shows that Ron even in his 30s is just a teenager mentally he doesn't care enough to actually put effort he just wants to go hang out or relax. Thats a problem when your partner is the poster child for being extremely ambitious and wanting to change the world. I pity Hermione as a character because she will always be stuck with this man-child who will never grow up. I doubt he changed diapers, I doubt he watched the kids much until they where old enough to play games. He worked to become an auror, got in and in two years quit because it was to hard of work. Even though he was working with his two best friends. When the going gets tough, ron gets going.
@@TheLastSane1 Are you talking about the play? Because that wasn't written by J.k Rowlings. That was more like fan fiction. Ron was actually pretty good grade wise and was made prefect.
@@kellharris2491 She co-wrote it she was just not the primary writer. It it still the OFFICIAL canon. Also no I was talking directly the Epilog at the end of book 7
@@TheLastSane1 barely passes his classes ?? really ??? ! The man who had 7/9 O.W.L.S without really working . I don't calling "barely passes his classes" . And actually Ron didn't leaving Auror career cause it was hardworking he leave to help George at the shop it was really hard for him without Fred . So a great kind and beautiful gesture .
I'm going to say something unpopular: Ron and Hermione are a better match than Harry and Hermione. Ron was absent from the trio twice: in GOF when he fell out with Harry due to jealousy, and in DH when he was affected by the horcrux. On both occasions, Harry and Hermione fell into quiet misery, because while Ron was the less competent and less accomplished wizard of the three, he was the one that cheered the other two up and made life bearable. Harry and Hermione were both entirely too serious. It's not really an accident that Harry and Hermione both married Weasleys.
Agreed. Ron may not have been as book smart as Hermione, but he had common sense. If he didn't then he would never had made it back to them in the last book or been so good at chess. I am a very emotional person and my husband, being a Marine, is not. We balance each other out. He helps me be calm and I help him remember that its ok to show emotions. No marriage is perfect, but I think that Ron and Hermione were a great couple. She would keep him going and he would teach her how to relax.
imo Harry should have ended up with someone who didn't care about how famous he was, like Luna or a foreigner. Hermione should have definitely found someone who can really appreciate her. Ron values comfort over everything else and so probably would have had a string of partners but none for terribly long as they would take a bit to realise, no, this really IS Ron. He's capable of more but can't be bothered.
Harry: I have something you’ll never have, Voldemort Voldemort: like what you don’t have a family, you don’t have friends, you don’t have dumbledore Harry: I HAVE A NOSE Voldemort: ....
The most disturbing theory was about Neville..... it was heartbreaking. And it's in the book that he kept all the sweet wrappers his mom gave him and covered his walls with... oh this really hurts.
Ron is NOT SLOW AT ALL. The director of this movie totally butchered his character. Ron has feelings just like everyone else in the movie including Harry. If the creator of this video had actually read this book, he would know that in the seventh book especially, (but all the other books as well), that he was very protective of Hermione and his love for her couldn't matched. It also wasn't just Hermione, but Ginny as well. At the end of The Half Blood Prince, Harry broke up with Ginny to protect her. At the beginning of The Deathly Hallows, Ginny gave Harry a happy birthday kiss. Ron waked in while they were kissing and was shocked and angry at the fact that Harry had broke Ginny's heart and just giving her a tease. Ron was very smart and loving. Ron shouldn't be someone to underestimate.
@@ogclasher8931 Just because you don't like it that doesn't automatically make it a bad argument. And you are deliberately ignoring all the examples Emily and Hattie's Channel have given when Ron was kind and brave.
@@cecilia8515 True but I think Ron was right there cause even though Harry didn't mean to hurt her he kind of was doing it by telling her they couldn't be together and then kissing her. He was really nice and the fact that he broke up with her for her own safety was so good but these mixed signals were no fooi
they even made a video saying that harry was a bad person and that he put other people's life's in danger so he can live longer. after all the hate they got they made the video private. you can see movie flame's video reacting to it. i was furious when i watched that video.
In the book it clearly states that the third brother, after having a family of his own relinquishes the invisibility cloak to his son and greeted death as an old friend. But yea JK did say she felt as though that fan theory had some merit to it, meaning that those characters represented the stories or reasons behind the wand, the stone and the cloak.
Actually Harry's dad James potter was, in fact, a descendant of one of the three brothers James's dad's dad was one of the three brothers, which means Harry is a direct descendant. Harry is also related to Voldemort if you didn't know
Probably because you didn't watch the last "fact"? It states that there's a fan theory about Dumbledore being death. Literally the impersonated death (from the tale of the three brothers etc). I guess that was meant to be the darc secret about Dumbledore 😅
Also, make him a 40 year old heroin addict who was just dreaming after he shot up a massive dose of smack, about fantasies about his troubled, abusive childhood and what could have fixed it in an ideal fantasy world.
Rowling is first and foremost a teacher and took the opportunity to convey some hard truths to her readers, death is final, war is costly even when necessary, people are not just good or evil their choices are.
With wizards turning into animals I always thought it would be great if Dumbledore was a Phoenix, it would explain why he has one hanging around all the time (his mate), and why he is so much more powerful than other wizards. Also you will note that most of his strongest spells are fire based. His obsession with immortally would also be explained, as he would be trying to understand more about himself and his kind.
@@alifelesordinary werewolves dont choose when they become wolves and they can only be wolves, nothing else. An animagus chooses when to become their animal form and their personality remain. Werewolves forget who they are... so i dont think you mean werewolves
@@carolinaapintoo not sure what wizards and will have to do with my original supposition, but ok. Point remains that Dumbledore being a Phoenix is a cool idea... and I don't mean an animagus I mean the opposite an animal that shifted into a human not the other way arround... or not... just thought it was a cool idea.
About Neville's parents....Yeah, that IS a tragic story, but it's one I find to be very well told. He starts out squirmish, insecure and a bit dumb, but grows to be amicable, strong and intelligent. His parents would be very proud of him! And his tragey is that he knows that, but his Mom and Dad are "gone forever", in a way. He is like Harry, without the "The whole wizarding world knows and cares" part. Just a normal guy dealing with an incredibly crappy situation. I like that; it's really good character building.
Funny thing though most of the wizarding world does know and his parents were very popular. Neville struggles so much more because of his personality. He is very awkward and makes a lot of mistakes. I always thought people like Mcgonigal was so hard on him was because she expected more. That was her tough love approuch. She didn't hold back to punish Harry either.
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Honestly since the third book I always thought of Ron and Hermione as parent like figures to harry (Especially Hermione she could read him like a book).They were there to support him almost till the end. Only leaving the last battle to him becoze they know he is capable. * I know a lot of people will hate it* just putting out my view.
Ron wasn't lazy in the books. He was just as helpful as hermione they just failed to show that BC the writers gave a particular liking twords Hermione so they gave most of rons and some of harrys moments to her.
Exactly, they changed the whole shooting schedules to assist her in her real schooling. Side note, Emma Watson speaks out on how men are treated so much better than women…uhhh what?
@@satan3862 I think Rowling wanted to show them arguing a lot, because thats how some (young) romantic couples act if they feel attracted to each other but they haven't said so yet and fear it's not reciprocal, and are too shy or afraid to try and find out. That mostly goes away once they have confessed their love for one another.
I always thought that Harry should've gone back to Hogwarts, captained the Gryffindor quidditch team, and then gone on to play quidditch professionally for a few years before going on to his career as an Auror. Also, everything these guys said about Ron is wrong. He is not lazy, nor is he slow or otherwise dimwitted. He just happens to be best friends with two of the most powerful people at the school and gets a little overshadowed sometimes. The movies did his character wrong.
When Harry "died", It cast a protection spell over all the remaining people similar to Lily's, so no one died after in the second round of battle. If we take the same rules, if Harry gave himself up straight at the start of the battle, Fred, Lupin, Tonks, Collin and many more could have survived 🙄🙄
Its all done by Dumbledore, he should have told Harry beforehand btw the pain i saw in Harry’s eyes when he was walking in heaven with Dumbledore *without his glasses* 💀
@@chaewsyun_ he learned that AFTER the first round though.... dunbledore didn´t bother to tell him beforehand and ordered snape to provide that info only when voldemort started to keep nagini close
@@dagrazytcom5492 tbh it is not really clear if she actually died, in the movies they show Hermione blasting off Greyback but he had already eaten her throat or whatever. But in the books, she was still *moving feebly* and also that Wizards and Witches are stronger than Muggles. As when Harry was blasted into one of the walls, he didn’t die, the same is with Lavender as she was thrown from the roof but still making slight movement.
@@megha9789 Bruh! Have you even touched the books, let alone reading them! Without Ron Voldy would have destroyed the whole world! And Muggles like you would probably be dead.....Never underestimate the King! WEASLEY IS OUR KING!!!!
@@megha9789 without Ron all Horcrux wouldn’t have been destroyed (he destroys the locket, found the sword to destroy the locket, gets the basilisk fangs so Hermionie can destroy the cup and saved harry at the river).....Infact Harry and Hermionie would be killed in the first year itself, because they would have never crossed the Chess Board, and voldy would actually be immortal as he will get the philosophers stone. So.....peaceout!
Well I took a quiz and it asked me who was Dumbledore in love with and ofc I said McGonnagal and it corrected me saying that it was Grindelwald and I was like "whaaa?!"
In the book, Arthur Weasley is obsessed with muggle culture and got excited of meeting Hermione's parents. Some sort of parental influence may had been a partial contribution to drawn Hermione and Ron closer together. The Granger's desire to have wizard in their bloodline and Arthur Weasley obsession with muggles, it is a win win!
I've always disagreed with the anti-Ron-Hermione group. Even JK herself. To me, they are an exact mirror of Molly and Arthur. Badass powerful witch, paired with a capable, but fun loving wizard.
My dad always told me that men tend (not always) to look for partners like their mothers. So I find that relationship to be not surprising at all. I think it's cute
Romione 4ever And to @thethings R0n and Hermione are extremley compatiable Ron isn't that stupid Hermiome always looks out for him Ron left the Golden Trio because of the Hocrux and he did come back Fan theories reveal that Lavender used a love potion on Ron And it's clear that Harry and Hermione only have brotherly-sisterly feelings towards each other Ron played chess in their first year and sacrificed himself When Malfoy callled Hermione a mudblood Ron attacked Malfoy When Grawp grabs Hermione Ron hits him with a stick He mutters Hermione when he's poisoned In the Deathly Hallows his worst nightmare is Harry Choosing Hermione over him Romione is just a really good ship name The Weasleys and the Grangers are family friends DO YOU NEED ANY MORE REASONS HATERS? (this is my mom's account)
This reminds me of that scene where Hermione asks Ron to back her up in an argument against Harry and Harry is reminded of Molly & Arthur in OotP and wisely doesn't mention it 😂😂 Gods, I love that scene
I never thought Snape was a good guy. He was pretty much a terrible person, other than loving Harry's mother. In some ways I think of his feelings as part of the ancient magic that she used to protect Harry. I did like how Rowling showed his side of things... the cruelty he was subjected to by "the good guys". We always think we're the good guys, even as we hurt others.
To be fair that had a lot to do with the whole Griffindor vs Sytherin. And Snape fought back and cursed them as well. He was the one calling people mudbloods and creating dangerous spells in school. He was a death eater willingly.
Snape was the son of a Witch and a Muggle man who abused and abandoned them and ultimately despised the magical world, so he was left with what seemed to be a mother who loved him and meant it well but had little to offer him and little ability to take care of him, not only on a practical and financial level, but also on an emotional one, maybe she had anaclitic depression or something similar. Barricading into his magical side was a psychological survival strategy to him, as to gain control and power over this whole sense of abandonment and powerlessness. The step from refusing to identify himself as partly Muggle to supporting magical supremacism is short, because like every single violent ideology, it works because it gives unhappy and people a sense of control and power.
Always figured Hermione, the bookworm and perfectionist that she is, went back to finish her schooling at Hogwarts as finishing it and her grades were important to her. Unlike her, Harry and Ron probably figured what they had done in the real world was beyond what they could learn at Hogwarts. However, I figured they had tested out and got their diplomas that way.
“they never got their diploma” firstly, you mean their NEWTs and secondly- NO ONE IN THEIR YEAR WOULD HAVE GOT THEM THERE WAS A BLOODY WAR GOING ON this channel needs to sort out her priorities
Not at all,,Their relationship is perfect... JK said Maybe Harry-Harmine was better but is this mean they haven't a perfectly complete relationship!!!!! Haven't interest on real boom I love this film & in film Their relationship is perfect..
Hermione could had done better with Harry be less stressful. The reason it turned out like this so all them could be related. Just like how they did with twilight. Her going with Ron was the only way for Hermione to still be related to Harry other than marriage and for Ron not to be left out.
Not sure if I agree with the last one. Technically, Harry had all three of the hallows at the end of the DEATHLY HALLOWS book, which would make him "master of death." Which is why, I believe, the Voldemort part of him died but Harry himself didn't. I think seeing Voldemort, Snape, and Harry as the three brothers is interesting, but this theory is far fetched, IMO.
You know I know that it's been confirmed that Dumbledore is gay but I just don't really see how it changes the story. I guess that it's interesting to know but I just don't get why some people tend to turn it into something huge. Most of the time I personally don't even remember it while reading the books and honestly Dumbledore is a fictional character and I personally feel that you should imagine him however you choose. Not to be distasteful to JK's work or anything I just sorta like the idea of Dumbledore with McGonagall. Does that make me a weirdo or are there other people like me? LOL 😁 😉 please note that this is just my opinion and you're aloud to feel however you want about it.
Dumbledore being gay destroys probably one of the first ships of our childood: him and McGonagall. Not dark but a funny memory for some kids. It went something like "he's old, she's old, so they are meant for each other!!!" It's so funny being a little kid.
Oh but it *does* affect the story, the whole fantastic beast series is based around the dumbledore/grindelwald relationship. If he wasn't gay, Ariana wouldn't have been killed - there would be no duel between them 🌷
It’s so sad that Hermione has a much shorter lifespan than Ron because she is not a pure blood.... Does that mean Ron has to be alone for another 100 years after Hermione dies?😢
or does being a witch extend her lifespan? After all, Dumbledore is technically half-blood with his mother being muggle-born, & he was set to have a very long life before he had to arrange his death
The reason Ron and Hermione COULD be amazing together is because with conscious effort, they would both drive each other to become more well rounded individuals. Ron gets Hermione to relax and live in the moment and Hermione gets Ron to put more thought into his actions. You see the changes later on in both of them somewhat. Hermione a bit earlier and Ron in the last book. Check out the relationship between INTJ and ENFP as an example of this. Not just speculation but as an INTJ who met the perfect person who not only made me happy but made me want to constantly better myself in order to make her happier every day than she was the last.
I do agree with you but I think Hermione is an ISTJ. INTJs tend to be more arrogant and even though they value rules they don't think they apply to them if it doesn't suit them. Plus they are more sarcastic, filled with dark humor and colder towards people. Another difference is that INTJs manage to be creative in some ways, while the same cannot be said for ISTJs or Hermione really. Finally Snake is an INTJ, Voldemort is an INTJ and I don't think Hermione has the same personality type as them. No offense is meant for the INTJs though, just sharing facts here and to be honest I am one myself so...
Is Ron really an ENFP? I'm an ENFP and I just don't feel that LOL. Anyways yes Ron and Hermione could have made each other better but the problem is Ron treats her like shit. He basically magically snaps out it near the end of the series, but that's not realistic. There's a reason J.K. Rowling has basically admitted that the pairing was a bad idea. If the author of the book can see it I don't know why other people can't 😂
Ron and Hermione work as a couple because they challenge each other. Ron challenges Hermione to take her nose out of books and enjoy real life. Hermione challenges Ron to be more thoughtful and considerate of people’s feelings. Both enjoyed the sparring between each other because they saw one another as worthy opponents. I think of the dynamic between Harry, Ron, and Hermione as very similar to the dynamic between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy in the original Star Trek. Also, here’s a link to a great video on how the movies really screwed up Ron’s character. th-cam.com/video/lCzxwcBZFuI/w-d-xo.html
I have a dark Harry Potter theory of my own that I never managed to post. It revolves around a character that was long hated by everyone even though he gave up any chance for love or glory so he could work as a double agent for Dumbledore under Voldemort and being the downfall of the Dark Lords army from within. Of course I am referring to… Peter Petigrew! What you didn’t see that coming? It’s actually a long involved story which I can’t put down in the comments box but the cliff notes version is- After Dumbledore hears the prophecy he realizes he has a chance to destroy the Dark Lord once and for all but he needs the help of one wizard to do it. A wizard who has always aspired to bravery but has never managed to find much of it in himself. He convinces Peter to put aside his feelings and his personal interests and do what’s best for the entire world which requires removing Voldemort from it! But to bring about Voldemort’s fall… sacrifices had to be made. Lily and James were sacrificed so Voldemort could “mark” Harry “as his equal” like the prophecy said and Sirius was framed so Harry could go to the Dursley’s where the protection spell carried by his Aunt Petunia could protect him until he came of age. It also would provide some time for the wizarding world to recover and allow Peter to fake his death so he could position himself to protect Harry in a less open form. Fast forward to Sirius’ escape from Azkaban, Dumbledore hadn’t planned for that and it almost derailed the entire plan. Peter had to hide out and then when caught play the part of a coward because revealing the real reason he betrayed Lily and James might turn them against Dumbledore and then it would all have been for nothing. After getting Sirius on the run Dumbledore decided his best choice was to accelerate his plans. In order for Voldemort to truly be destroyed they needed him exposed so he allowed Harry to be caught so the Dark Lord could return trusting Harry’s disarming skill and twin core wand to protect him and he had the only known two way portkey to ever exist to escape with. Why make a two way portkey for the trap you set up? It makes no sense to provide such an easy escape for the people you’re trying to capture! In the final book when Harry was captured isn’t it a bit “convenient” that Aberforth just happened to look in the mirror at the right time to see Harry needed help and managed to figure out the exact place to send Dobby to rescue them? Maybe he had already been told where they were and only checked the mirror to confirm. But if that’s the case who told him? I’ve got a guess! At the end of it all he pretended to try to stop them and die as a coward so that the kids would keep on the path. He had sacrificed everything, even his friends, his human life and any chance he once had of being seen as anything but a coward all to save the wizarding and Muggle world from the scourge of Voldemort and the death eaters. Thoughts? Questions? Comments?
I seem to recall that the 7th year at Hogwarts was optional. The characters were all considered adults at 17, before starting their 7th year, the Trace broke when they turned 17, the Weasley twins both left Hogwarts before finishing her 7th year, and I think at least 1 character directly said the 7th year was optional.
Technically all of Hogwarts is optional but leaving ur 7th counts as dropping out. Like Hermione did her 7th year but Kingsley Shacklebolt the new minister said that if anyone survived and fought in the battle of hogwarts he believed that they were good enough to be aurors
@@markmagician2471 yes exactly ron joined too and became an auror for some time but ended up working with George on the joke shop. Nevill also became an auror but later became a herbology teacher
I distinctly remember reading that Harry and Ron went back to school. Harry and Ginney were both seniors at the same time (even though Harry was a year older). It was during this time that Harry and Ginney deepened their connection and realized they were soul mates.
Actually, Dumbledore was born in 1881, and having died in 1997, he was 115. Though that doesn't actually debunk wizards living until 200, as despite being over 100, he had the spryness of a Muggle half his age until Half-Blood Prince, when the combination of his duel with Voldemort in the Ministry of Magic and being affected by the Withering Curse placed on the Gaunt Ring sapped his energy.
Rowling also mentioned once wanted to put her with one of the twins (Fred I think) but in the end it was Ron.. Harry or one of the twins would have been better with Hermione. Although I like (book) Ginny and Harry.
Harry Potter. Neville Longbottom. Teddy Lupin. Delphi Riddle. 4 kids who grew up with no parents. 3 kids who grew up with dead parents. 2 kids who grew up to be absolutely great. 1 kid who grew up to be normal. 1 kid who grew up to be evil.
Dear lord. Tom Riddle was a student in Hogwarts and opened the Chamber of Secret 50 years prior to Harry’s time. That made him a teen in early 1940’s. How did you think he lived to 130’s?
Honestly, it wouldn’t of made much sense for all three of them to go back to Hogwarts I mean imagine Harry sitting through defense against the dark arts when he Had won a battle against Voldemort
As far as I am concerned, the fact that they survived 9 months on the run while hunting horcruxes and being hunted themselves, to ultimately destroy all remaining horcruxes, and defeat Voldemort; they graduated. They used Defense Against The Dark Arts, Charms, Potions, Herbology, Transfiguration, Care Of Magical Creatures. They most definitely passed any test they could have been given in their N.E.W.T.s, and I believe the Ministry Of Magic acknowledged this when they hired Harry and Ron.
You are so clickbatey!!!! You said we would get information on how Dumbledor is not as innocent as he seems and what did you give us? Confirmation on one of jk Rowling's favourite theories about some symbolism!!!! And the thumbnail was somehow even *more* clickbatey!!!! Nowhere through the video did you hint that Hermione could have cheted on Ron!!!! Bloody hell!!!! Edit: so I did some research and I found that Dumbledor died 115 years old, not 150!!! Though I get how you may have been confused, they sound very similar, but you could at least have double checked your sources!!! Heck, Potermore has his birthday *and* deathday! It only takes subtraction to figure the age in which he died!!! Man, I'm mad!!!
Rowling recently said that Hermione would have been better off with Harry...but she contradicted her own work in GOF (which established they only see each other as siblings). So Rowling herself might be going a little senile.
@@robertmcintyre3480 well, I suppose that kinda makes sense, but if she had Ron and Hermione marry each other for "personal reasons" then maybe they are based on two people who eventually got married!!! I mean, Ron is, right?
ro781727 Rowling actually did think of putting Harry and Hermione tgt, but if they were tgt that means that Ron wouldn’t have a partner. So she thought it would be better to pair Ron and Hermione, since Harry can be with Ginny
I agree with the statement that a person's sexuallity shouldn't matter on who they are..... which is why the information of Dumbledore being gay being released before the information came out in fantastic beasts felt a little like a push for Rowling to show how woke and accepting she was and ruined the reveal. It didn't matter who or what Dumbledore was or did until Rowling made it matter.
Plot twist: J.K actually wanted to kill Arthur Weasley in the 5th book, but changed her mind so she just added on the whole part about the department of mysteries.
AAAND VOLDEMORT WAS FRICKIN 71 YEARS OLD WHEN HE GOT DEFEATED. HE WAS 11 WHEN HE JOINED HOGWARTS 17 WHEN LEFTED. THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS WAS OPENED 50 YEARS AGO WHEN HARRY WAS 11 SO VOLDEMORT WAS 61 SO WHEN HARRY WAS 17 HE WAS 71. GOSH YOU PEOPLE NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCHING OR USE BRAINS.
When the chamber of secrets was open, Tom was in his sixth year. That means he was 16 or 17. If it was opened 50 years before Harry was 12, that means Voldemort had 66 or 67. And when hr was defeated, he was around 71. So technically he's right
How dare you say that to the best person on earth.You're a Muggle and I'm sure the Dursleys will like you. By the way, get away from me, I'm a pure-blood.
@@chineseembassysarajevo1628 and you need to chill... she’s really not the best, and a lot of things in her series are actually pretty stereotypical -_-
You can effectively "test out" of school, skipping ahead to college, or whatever. I always figured Harry and Ron effectively did the same, in the wizarding world. They didn't "drop out" as much as they advanced past what the school had to offer. I always assumed they were granted "diplomas" for their real life achievements, in saving the world from an evil that adults could not.
I figured they could go far with Order of Merlin first class, but then could also take some N.E.W.T.s at the Ministry over the summer, like the Apparation Test.
1:51 You are so wrong. Ron and Hermione are complete opposites, which is what makes them so compatible. Hermione helps him keep organized and Ron makes sure she's taking care of herself. But the thing is, Ron is the only person who can keep up with Hermione for the most part. She loves a good debate and only Ron can give her that. It's also worth noting that with Hermione and Harry, Hermione "wilts" whenever Harry lets out his anger. Harry needs someone who can handle his anger and Hermione can't give him that. In short, he needs someone like Luna or Ginny. Hermione and Ron have always cared for each other and they both are a match made in heaven.
@@trishareddy2570 During the hunt for the horcrux.. when they traveled through time.. Ron and Hermione have been forced together because that's how the Rowling had decided to make the story go. But after distancing herself from the story, she said she regretted not making Harry end up with her, because ron and hermione would have had an unhealthy relationship.
Here's a suggestion: when you're gonna make a video about 'dark' theories, might as well add dark music. The jolly and cheery music in the background kills the vibe instantaneously.
I guess he is talking about the fans of the marauders who defend what james and sirius did was not bullying , that it was " rivalry" and snape also " did things to them'...yeah, because a bullying victim defends themselves doesn't make them less of bullying victim? And yeah he was absorbed into the death eaters, he regretted it and paid for that mistake with the rest of his life too. Also, yeah, surely a kid isolated who comes from an abusive home and is bullied and marginalized at school is not at all an easier target for brainwashing by basically a terrorist group, yeah, no correlation at all 🙄 🤦🏼♀️
snape was an awful person though. he bullied the kids he taught (forcing neville to almost poison his toad bc a potion had gone wrong, making fun of hermione’s teeth etc) and favoured his own house very blatantly, his obsession with lily was really creepy and didn’t even stop once she died. the only reason he stopped being a deatheater was because lily died and when she did, he literally just stepped over james’ body and ignored a crying baby in the room to hug her body?? he had absolutely no reason to be so shitty towards his students yet he did it anyway. i’m sick of people thinking he was a good person just because he wasn’t on voldemort’s side in the end
@@maijak2794 Yeah it's so weird to think that they bullied kid gets treated fairly and kindly by one person, couldn't possibly fall deeply in love with that person. To the point where he became extremely proficient at her best discipline, just to try and impress her. How could one think that's a thing, but no instead he's creepy....
A well played antagonist type character often becomes a fan favorite. Darth Vader, the Joker, Hannibal Lecter, Freddie Kreuger, the Terminator, and Thanos as examples.
Lafayette Levy I came for the thumbnail cuz I was like noooo hermione how could u. And then after watching the video realize they just did it for views.
I think JKR struggled to kill off Mr. Weasley as opposed to Fred, not Lupin. P.S. Hermione did not cheat on Ron as your thumbnail implies. And Hermione’s parents did not permanently lose their memories. Hermione restored them when she found them after the battle in (France.). Lockhart’s spell backfires and what is really dark was that he was using a spell with such force and effect that he suffered, on a teenage boy, Ron. What would have been the effect on Ron, close to the effect on him?
because we get to stand in the shadows and watch straight people have the conditioned idea in their head that it’s normal for them to dislike/hate their partner
And then, 6 years after our last scene from the movies, Hermione divorces Ron because of his gambling problem; then she comes out of the closet and moves in with Luna. Harry turns out to be a wife beater and Ginny ran off to fight ISIS and got killed. The Potter children get expelled from Hogworts and Harry winds up opening a used broom lot, becoming the Cal Worthington of the Wizarding World.
I feel like Harry, Ron and Hermione should have been allowed just to take final exams/N.E.W.T's instead of doing a final year. Hermione would refuse to take the exams since, "It just wouldn't feel right" to her, but Harry and Ron would take them and pass. They all demonstrated amazing magic and skill during the second war that it should have basically counted as graduating.
Actually, there's a major difference between the movie Ron and the book Ron. The movie Ron was just there because he was a key character in the books. The movies would have gladly killed him. The book Ron was street smart and reliable.
Can't believe they actually called him 'lazy' in this, wtf
How do i not remember that? I've read the entire series a few times over in my teens.....
Ron struck me as arrogant selfish stupid uncouth unreliable at best. He literally abandoned his team in thier darkest hour.
If thier is angst in the "golden trio" it is ALWAYS r9n who starts it and usually can't even be asked to apologize.
He spends pretty much the entire series as a hanger on of Harry's and even worse, will enjoy benefiting off Harry's fame, which Harry dislikes, he will even throw jealousy Harry's way...
He constantly doubts his closest friends.
He is weak.
He is kinda ugly.
He IS stupid. Being great at chess doesn't make you smart.
Sure. Plot has dictated that Ron be present at important times and events. But honestly?... anyone else could have done his work. Literally. Anyone else. Besides the chess part, there isn't anything he did that was truly special and not doable by others. He was just in the right place at the right time.
He has extreamly low self confidence, but walks around with a false "you're no better than me" attitude.
He is just kinda pathetic.
And worst of all... he got with hermione... for no logical reason. Hermione has spent most of the books being disgusted with him or neutral at best.
He has made her cry half a dozen times and again, couldn't even be asked to feel bad about it most times.
If Ron was a real life person and he wanted to be my friend... I would say thanks by no thanks.
@It's Aahana .M strong? Beautiful? He's an idiot. He's looks like a boy even when fully grown. He has no sense of decorum.
He is ACTUALLY RACIST. The term mudblood is like saying the n word... and he called he best friend that. Imagine marrying a woman you called the n word.....
I get it. You like the flawed character redemption. You must like big goofs.
But in my head, his existence held Harry back... big time.
Harry should have been studying and preparing. He should have been pushing himself to get stronger, wiser.
But Ron was a massive distraction. Even worse than that, he actively dissuaded Harry away from doing what would have been in Harry's best interest.
He is as bad as it gets without being evil.
I can go on and on.
Harry is interested in his sister. He blows up. Harry gets special attention, he blows up. Hermione gets attention, he blows up.
He is an insecure little shit. And I know, you probably think that's cute. But it's not to me. It's pathetic.
You see, nevil is also insecure. He lacks confidence as well. But he doesn't inflict his issues on others.
Ron literally knows how much Harry hates being the boy who lives and he spends the first 5 books being a jealous pray about it.
He simply doesn't think about consequences, or the safety and feelings of others. He is always his own first priority and even expects others to act as such.
He's stupid comedy runtime is grating. Lol hahaha he is stupid!! Lol. Look at him eat like an idiot! Lol.
Yeah, .... no. It's annoying.
Being able to stand up on broken legs blah blah blah, doesn't wipe the other shit he did clean.
Ron is the fuck up of the group. Who only succeeds in life because jk Rowling said so. In real life, a guy like that would get ripped apart and thrown from any self respecting group.
The movies never wanted to kill him, JK Rowling actually planned to kill him in the books. Watch the sit down "interview" between JK and Dan Radcliffe, she said she planned to kill him but realised she was in a dark place at that time in her life and was taking it out on the story. Its why she killed Lupin and Tonks despite them being some of her fave characters.
@@langthegang8677 That would explain why the movie writers disrespected the Ron character. I'm not a big enough fan of the Harry Potter series to care about delving into the continuing process. I always thought that Rowling had a rather haphazard idea of who lived and died. The books were still better than the movies.
"Stay tuned to see why Dumbledore wasn't as innocent as he seems to be."
Rita Skeeter?
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Yeah, she didn't even mention he was friends with the most powerful Dark Lord of the time and wanted to rule over Muggles... Apparently, him being gay means he's not innocent...
What do you mean about Rita Skeeter?
Omg most underrated comment here 🤣
"Ron is slow" yet he beats Hermione in chess. Hermione is book smart, Ron is street smart.
street smart is not a thing.
I wouldn't say street smart. He's just good at planning for events and possibilities which is why he's so good at chess. I would have enjoyed seeing him actually help more with strategy in the events leading up to the battle, it would have been a nice boost of self esteem for his character to get to be asked to help. He could have gotten out of Harry's shadow a bit more.
@@slaterbayliss2280 bet
More accurately Hermione is an intellectual and Ron is a tactian.
@@slaterbayliss2280 lol go tell some hood dudes that. Opinions can always change...
I am still upset that Hedwig got killed off. Especially the way she went in the book. She was the first real gift Harry ever received in his life, and she was a very loyal companion. She deserved better.
TRUE! and the scene just hits sooo hard!
that's why it has such a huge jolt factor
It’s might be upsetting but from a literature standpoint I think it made sense.
It’s symbolic for his childhood just dieing
no respect for the Happee Birthdae cake?
Actually. The theory about three brothers is NOT approved by JK.
It’s just her favorite fan theory
Get wrecked The Things!
Yeh but in a interview she said that it was true even though she posted that it was just her favorite theory
Honestly I love that theory though, I love seeing the fanart that comes out of it
@@beccagregory3586 which theory?
@@danikajayde8577 he is actually a decendant yes.
“hate” snape. Oh hunnyyyyyyy we hate umbridge the most
Nothing but facts
We hate umbridge more that voldemort too.
@@idikam.5257 yessir
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“Hermione and Ron’s relationship wouldn’t always be filled with gumdrops and lemon squares”… No relationship ever is, that doesn’t mean they can’t be happy together. I get the feeling they could potentially compliment each other pretty well.
Hermione is smarter then Ron which can’t be denied, (she’s smarter then darn near everyone) but Ron isn’t exactly dumb. Remember who won the chess game, who learned to say open in Parsletongue after hearing it said one time, and who came up with the idea to use the fangs from the chamber of secrets to destroy horcruxes?!
Agreed! I think they complemented each other well, which is WHY they worked.
All you wrote is true except that Ron did not learn to say open in parsletounge by hearing it once, he says himself that he learnt it because harry talked in his sleep
@@Lydiazz1818 he actually learned it by hearing it twice, I forgot the whole ordeal with the locket but hearing him talk in his sleep wouldn’t accomplish anything. He would only use parseltongue in his sleep if he were either a snake or talking to one in his sleep and even if he was speaking parseltongue in his mouth it would only sound like a long string of sounds and it would be next to impossible to figure out where one single syllable or multi syllable word ended and the next began and completely impossible to figure out what each word meant as Harry was sleeping and Ron had nothing to associate the sounds too.
Ikr
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I always thought it was pretty obvious that Snape was grooming and preparing Harry in how to cope with the horrifying things he was about to see and do. Snape had both seen and traveled the deepest depths of the dark side. He knew one must have a certain degree of mental fortitude to cope with it, and he knew that Harry was going to be thrown head first into that pit with zero care in the world. So he deliberately pushed Harry gradually down that path and prepared him for it and taught him how to fight to keep ones sanity and love for life.
Props to you. Your the first person I have come across to figure it out right away
I disagree. It was Dumbledore who was grooming Harry. Snape didn't learn about it till Deathly Hallows! However Because of his love for Lily he felt responsible for Harry in her stead.
did you just say “Ron is lazy and loose as a goose”? oh shut the heck up, the movies screwed him up.
True that
I agree
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Harry: "I'm a what?"
Hagrid: "A lizard!"
Harry: "A what?"
Hagrid: "A blizzard!"
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@@btdroo no you did it wrong
Ron in the books was much more likable. He was more charming, more outgoing, more popular and had good street smarts even if he was scared at times. The movie made him rather pathetic but in truth he was much more courageous and had strong loyalty to Harry even when he was mad at Harry. He was much more relatable because he was funny and petty at times. He knew a lot so he was obvious
Y the person who helped Harry and Hermoine a lot. Loved loved loved his character.
To me Hermoine was less charismatic by comparison in the book. She was much more feminine than the movie. She had courage but was more timid and not afraid to be scared. She depended just as much on Ron as Harry.
It’s obvious to me how Ron and Hermoine ended up as a couple. They were worlds apart in some aspects but together they fit like a puzzle. I don’t like the movie as much as it made Hermoine seem like she was much stronger and more street smart than she actually was in the book. What pissed me off the most was when she took a lot of Ron’s important lines.
Yeah some culture will do that.
Ron was by far better in the books. But stop with the strong loyalty shit. He abandoned twice and while he regrets both times. Nothing is ever done about that, nothing fundamentally changes about Ron to correct this very bad character flaw. Really Ron is not stupid but Ron is honestly a D student who barely passes his classes and mostly due to the fact that Hermione did most of his homework for him or Harry did. Without those two Ron is 21 and still in hogwarts. Not because he is stupid but because he is lazy, he is the picture of unambitious and that is his flaw with Hermione.
Hermione is ambitious, clever, driven, and wants to make a difference in the world.
Ron is the polar opposite. He wants nothing more than to be handed everything, and he doesn't care if anything changes. He is a literally hinderence to Hermione. WE see this in the eulog where Ron brags to Harry that he got his license by just casting a spell on the instructor. Hermione asked him to go get a license that was it. Not fight Voldemort, to go get a license which most 15-16 years get fairly easily. So rather than learning something, putting in a minute amount of effort he just did the easiest thing and lied to Hermione about it. And then bragged to Harry about it. That alone shows that Ron even in his 30s is just a teenager mentally he doesn't care enough to actually put effort he just wants to go hang out or relax.
Thats a problem when your partner is the poster child for being extremely ambitious and wanting to change the world. I pity Hermione as a character because she will always be stuck with this man-child who will never grow up. I doubt he changed diapers, I doubt he watched the kids much until they where old enough to play games. He worked to become an auror, got in and in two years quit because it was to hard of work. Even though he was working with his two best friends.
When the going gets tough, ron gets going.
@@TheLastSane1 Are you talking about the play? Because that wasn't written by J.k Rowlings. That was more like fan fiction. Ron was actually pretty good grade wise and was made prefect.
@@kellharris2491 She co-wrote it she was just not the primary writer. It it still the OFFICIAL canon. Also no I was talking directly the Epilog at the end of book 7
@@TheLastSane1 barely passes his classes ?? really ??? ! The man who had 7/9 O.W.L.S without really working . I don't calling "barely passes his classes" . And actually Ron didn't leaving Auror career cause it was hardworking he leave to help George at the shop it was really hard for him without Fred . So a great kind and beautiful gesture .
I'm going to say something unpopular: Ron and Hermione are a better match than Harry and Hermione.
Ron was absent from the trio twice: in GOF when he fell out with Harry due to jealousy, and in DH when he was affected by the horcrux. On both occasions, Harry and Hermione fell into quiet misery, because while Ron was the less competent and less accomplished wizard of the three, he was the one that cheered the other two up and made life bearable. Harry and Hermione were both entirely too serious.
It's not really an accident that Harry and Hermione both married Weasleys.
I agree with u
Agreed.
Agreed. Ron may not have been as book smart as Hermione, but he had common sense. If he didn't then he would never had made it back to them in the last book or been so good at chess. I am a very emotional person and my husband, being a Marine, is not. We balance each other out. He helps me be calm and I help him remember that its ok to show emotions. No marriage is perfect, but I think that Ron and Hermione were a great couple. She would keep him going and he would teach her how to relax.
imo Harry should have ended up with someone who didn't care about how famous he was, like Luna or a foreigner.
Hermione should have definitely found someone who can really appreciate her.
Ron values comfort over everything else and so probably would have had a string of partners but none for terribly long as they would take a bit to realise, no, this really IS Ron. He's capable of more but can't be bothered.
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Harry: I have something you’ll never have, Voldemort
Voldemort: like what you don’t have a family, you don’t have friends, you don’t have dumbledore
Harry: I HAVE A NOSE
Voldemort: ....
I care about you😂
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Most people coming out: Mom, dad, I’m gay
J.K Rowling coming out: Mom, dad, you’re gay
Alstra Fortnite Ok that is the funniest thing I have ever read.
So what if they are gay
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I hate this excuse of lgbt rep. You either do it or you don't. No in-between
Even though Ron is not one of my favourites, I have to point out that he is NOT slow. He just doubts himself a lot.
He is not slow or stupid. Ron is lazy, unambitious, and kind of just envious of everyone but not actually wanting to work for what they have.
@@TheLastSane1 Don't know what books you read...
The most disturbing theory was about Neville..... it was heartbreaking. And it's in the book that he kept all the sweet wrappers his mom gave him and covered his walls with... oh this really hurts.
Ron is NOT SLOW AT ALL. The director of this movie totally butchered his character. Ron has feelings just like everyone else in the movie including Harry. If the creator of this video had actually read this book, he would know that in the seventh book especially, (but all the other books as well), that he was very protective of Hermione and his love for her couldn't matched. It also wasn't just Hermione, but Ginny as well. At the end of The Half Blood Prince, Harry broke up with Ginny to protect her. At the beginning of The Deathly Hallows, Ginny gave Harry a happy birthday kiss. Ron waked in while they were kissing and was shocked and angry at the fact that Harry had broke Ginny's heart and just giving her a tease. Ron was very smart and loving. Ron shouldn't be someone to underestimate.
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I agree, but Harry was not just giving Ginny a tease. He did not deliberately hurt her, he genuinely loved her.
“Ron isn’t slow, he has feelings! He loved hermione!” Yeah great argument lmao
@@ogclasher8931 Just because you don't like it that doesn't automatically make it a bad argument. And you are deliberately ignoring all the examples Emily and Hattie's Channel have given when Ron was kind and brave.
@@cecilia8515 True but I think Ron was right there cause even though Harry didn't mean to hurt her he kind of was doing it by telling her they couldn't be together and then kissing her. He was really nice and the fact that he broke up with her for her own safety was so good but these mixed signals were no fooi
Most of these aren’t even theories. They’re literally in the books.
Yup. This channel is rubbish. The last is a fan theory that JK has never confirmed true, just said she thought it was clever
@@lawrencetalbot8346 I still don't understand how Dumbledore being gay is a "dark" theory lol
@@poppapalpatine8624 channel must be homophobic. There’s my dark theory about this channel.
they even made a video saying that harry was a bad person and that he put other people's life's in danger so he can live longer. after all the hate they got they made the video private. you can see movie flame's video reacting to it. i was furious when i watched that video.
@@poppapalpatine8624 i know, this channel is the most hated hp one ever bro, at least according to me
In the book it clearly states that the third brother, after having a family of his own relinquishes the invisibility cloak to his son and greeted death as an old friend. But yea JK did say she felt as though that fan theory had some merit to it, meaning that those characters represented the stories or reasons behind the wand, the stone and the cloak.
Actually Harry's dad James potter was, in fact, a descendant of one of the three brothers James's dad's dad was one of the three brothers, which means Harry is a direct descendant. Harry is also related to Voldemort if you didn't know
@@pearlwilliams1772 really?
@@pearlwilliams1772 I mean, presumably it would have been more generations than just Harry's great grandfather...
I don’t understand why Dumbledore being gay is “dark” wtf? Why?
I was about to comment the same thing until I saw yours
ikr lol
ngl i just left this comment n am now seeing yours. well done. n tf is with this lot???
Probably because you didn't watch the last "fact"? It states that there's a fan theory about Dumbledore being death. Literally the impersonated death (from the tale of the three brothers etc). I guess that was meant to be the darc secret about Dumbledore 😅
@@LeoTheDarkAngel no those were both separate “facts” that were given at different times in the video.
Say what you will about Snape (and I might agree,) but the guy served as the ultimate quadruple-agent for seventeen years, and that’s admirable.
He also was able to effectively lie to Voldemort's face and trick him -who else could do that?
No one!
Not even the faceless?
MaxFilmz he also made fun of his students 🤷🏻♀️
He was a triple agent not quadruple
Imagine if JK Rowling ends the series by saying ‘and then Harry woke up in the cupboard under the stairs’
Would have been much much better than making him the chosen one
Also, make him a 40 year old heroin addict who was just dreaming after he shot up a massive dose of smack, about fantasies about his troubled, abusive childhood and what could have fixed it in an ideal fantasy world.
@@546-apoorvaranjan7 through the whole series it was implied he was the special chosen one though
That would have been cruel
@@Demonmixer gotdamn 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Rowling is first and foremost a teacher and took the opportunity to convey some hard truths to her readers, death is final, war is costly even when necessary, people are not just good or evil their choices are.
You say “Ron is lazy and loose like a goose” while he destroyed a horcruxe and helped Harry
In the books he’s the one who figured out Voldemort’s name was taboos they didn’t give him enough credit in the movies
@@genesisyothers408 He didn’t figured it out… he just heard about it.
when they said snape was grey i thought they said he was gay lol
I thought when she said Dumbledore was death I thought she said def and It would make sense... it wouldn't
I thought, she meant gray-ace, when she said, Snape was gray. I don't think he is, when you think of Lilly
Maybe he was bi and he loved Dumbledore he did go both ways being gray as it was put.
Friends don't you realise that Snape loved Lily.
Don't give Rowling any ideas.
Imagine if the actor playing Dumbledore didn’t know that jk Rowling made his gay and when he found out...
“I-I’m a what?!”
Maybe his actor is gay in star trek's new films they made sulu gay this angered. george Takei who is actually gay
omg hi harry
hello potter
She told the screenplay writer he was gay, at least
u mean "I'm a wot"
With wizards turning into animals I always thought it would be great if Dumbledore was a Phoenix, it would explain why he has one hanging around all the time (his mate), and why he is so much more powerful than other wizards. Also you will note that most of his strongest spells are fire based. His obsession with immortally would also be explained, as he would be trying to understand more about himself and his kind.
Love this theory ❤️
Are you talking about animagus?
@@carolinaapintoo ...sure or werewolves
@@alifelesordinary werewolves dont choose when they become wolves and they can only be wolves, nothing else. An animagus chooses when to become their animal form and their personality remain. Werewolves forget who they are... so i dont think you mean werewolves
@@carolinaapintoo not sure what wizards and will have to do with my original supposition, but ok. Point remains that Dumbledore being a Phoenix is a cool idea... and I don't mean an animagus I mean the opposite an animal that shifted into a human not the other way arround... or not... just thought it was a cool idea.
About Neville's parents....Yeah, that IS a tragic story, but it's one I find to be very well told. He starts out squirmish, insecure and a bit dumb, but grows to be amicable, strong and intelligent. His parents would be very proud of him! And his tragey is that he knows that, but his Mom and Dad are "gone forever", in a way. He is like Harry, without the "The whole wizarding world knows and cares" part. Just a normal guy dealing with an incredibly crappy situation.
I like that; it's really good character building.
Funny thing though most of the wizarding world does know and his parents were very popular. Neville struggles so much more because of his personality. He is very awkward and makes a lot of mistakes. I always thought people like Mcgonigal was so hard on him was because she expected more. That was her tough love approuch. She didn't hold back to punish Harry either.
Hermione wasn't a cheater, Harry was always her bestfriend
This is a fact
@@wilg7735 no one will hate you for your opinion :)
@@wilg7735 ok but they would be cute tho 😂 I’ve never thought about them together before but it would work
That’s why they made out in a tent
@@wilg7735 hehe
expecto patronum?!
Voldemort: It's treason then....
@@thandisings I can't tell if you trolling or serious
@@bookchan9692 exactly
Or we're unworthy muggles. lol
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Honestly since the third book I always thought of Ron and Hermione as parent like figures to harry (Especially Hermione she could read him like a book).They were there to support him almost till the end. Only leaving the last battle to him becoze they know he is capable. * I know a lot of people will hate it* just putting out my view.
If only voldy made his horcrux a single grain of sand and let it loose to sahara dessert pretty sure he would've lived forever
How is it dark that Dumbledore is gay
sksk idekekekke
it isnt.
Idek
It's not but he can be gay but Harry cant date Draco
I know right it’s so inappropriate to say that
Ron wasn't lazy in the books. He was just as helpful as hermione they just failed to show that BC the writers gave a particular liking twords Hermione so they gave most of rons and some of harrys moments to her.
Yep. Fucking bull shit. Made Ron look like a fucking idiot
True. They even gave some of Dumbledore's moments to Hermione.
Exactly, they changed the whole shooting schedules to assist her in her real schooling. Side note, Emma Watson speaks out on how men are treated so much better than women…uhhh what?
Yeah its not true ron lazy but ron was a pretty big jerk to hermione and these 2 never stopped arguing so would say these 2 are a bad match
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I think Rowling wanted to show them arguing a lot, because thats how some (young) romantic couples act if they feel attracted to each other but they haven't said so yet and fear it's not reciprocal, and are too shy or afraid to try and find out. That mostly goes away once they have confessed their love for one another.
I always thought that Harry should've gone back to Hogwarts, captained the Gryffindor quidditch team, and then gone on to play quidditch professionally for a few years before going on to his career as an Auror.
Also, everything these guys said about Ron is wrong. He is not lazy, nor is he slow or otherwise dimwitted. He just happens to be best friends with two of the most powerful people at the school and gets a little overshadowed sometimes. The movies did his character wrong.
When Harry "died", It cast a protection spell over all the remaining people similar to Lily's, so no one died after in the second round of battle. If we take the same rules, if Harry gave himself up straight at the start of the battle, Fred, Lupin, Tonks, Collin and many more could have survived 🙄🙄
ikr harry knew he was a horcrux
Its all done by Dumbledore, he should have told Harry beforehand btw the pain i saw in Harry’s eyes when he was walking in heaven with Dumbledore *without his glasses* 💀
@@chaewsyun_ he learned that AFTER the first round though.... dunbledore didn´t bother to tell him beforehand and ordered snape to provide that info only when voldemort started to keep nagini close
What about Lavender Brown getting mauled to death by Greyback? He didn't use any spell, he ate her throat out.
@@dagrazytcom5492 tbh it is not really clear if she actually died, in the movies they show Hermione blasting off Greyback but he had already eaten her throat or whatever. But in the books, she was still *moving feebly* and also that Wizards and Witches are stronger than Muggles. As when Harry was blasted into one of the walls, he didn’t die, the same is with Lavender as she was thrown from the roof but still making slight movement.
Ron Is not slow. He is literally one of the most important characters in the entire franchise.
He is the best character
@@megha9789 he destroyed a horcrux, he saved Hermiones life, things wouldn’t have went the way they did I if it wasn’t for Ron.
@@megha9789 Bruh! Have you even touched the books, let alone reading them! Without Ron Voldy would have destroyed the whole world! And Muggles like you would probably be dead.....Never underestimate the King! WEASLEY IS OUR KING!!!!
@@megha9789 Couldn’t disagree more...
@@megha9789 without Ron all Horcrux wouldn’t have been destroyed (he destroys the locket, found the sword to destroy the locket, gets the basilisk fangs so Hermionie can destroy the cup and saved harry at the river).....Infact Harry and Hermionie would be killed in the first year itself, because they would have never crossed the Chess Board, and voldy would actually be immortal as he will get the philosophers stone. So.....peaceout!
The first time I read the Harry Potter books, I thought Dumbledore would end up with Professor McGonagall! I really don't know why 😂
Because the idea of them is kinda sweet
Lol
I thought that too, because they're the two old professors at the same school.
Lol same then I read the series agian
Well I took a quiz and it asked me who was Dumbledore in love with and ofc I said McGonnagal and it corrected me saying that it was Grindelwald and I was like "whaaa?!"
In the book, Arthur Weasley is obsessed with muggle culture and got excited of meeting Hermione's parents. Some sort of parental influence may had been a partial contribution to drawn Hermione and Ron closer together. The Granger's desire to have wizard in their bloodline and Arthur Weasley obsession with muggles, it is a win win!
she didnt just call ron “lazy, loose as a goose” like bruh, come back after uve read the books
Bro chill she said in the books that it’s different and Ron is pretty much the opposite in the book u should get ur hearing checked....
It's been confirmed that Dumbledore was 115 years old when he died not 150.
AROUND 150 not 150.
Yeah you are correct about that. How did they get that one wrong??
Billy Smith IT WASN’T CONFIRMED HOW OLD HE WAS IN THE FIRST PLACE 😤
Yes I read that j.k said 115 IDK how they got that wrong
Nightyarrow :3 how the hell is 150 anywhere near 115?! That’s 35 years apart!
I've always disagreed with the anti-Ron-Hermione group. Even JK herself. To me, they are an exact mirror of Molly and Arthur. Badass powerful witch, paired with a capable, but fun loving wizard.
My dad always told me that men tend (not always) to look for partners like their mothers. So I find that relationship to be not surprising at all. I think it's cute
@@kovanightshade Exactly!!!
Romione 4ever
And to @thethings R0n and Hermione are extremley compatiable
Ron isn't that stupid
Hermiome always looks out for him
Ron left the Golden Trio because of the Hocrux and he did come back
Fan theories reveal that Lavender used a love potion on Ron
And it's clear that Harry and Hermione only have brotherly-sisterly feelings towards each other
Ron played chess in their first year and sacrificed himself
When Malfoy callled Hermione a mudblood Ron attacked Malfoy
When Grawp grabs Hermione Ron hits him with a stick
He mutters Hermione when he's poisoned
In the Deathly Hallows his worst nightmare is Harry Choosing Hermione over him
Romione is just a really good ship name
The Weasleys and the Grangers are family friends
DO YOU NEED ANY MORE REASONS HATERS?
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This reminds me of that scene where Hermione asks Ron to back her up in an argument against Harry and Harry is reminded of Molly & Arthur in OotP and wisely doesn't mention it 😂😂
Gods, I love that scene
@@chithragopal4597 In the Half - Blood
Prince
I never thought Snape was a good guy. He was pretty much a terrible person, other than loving Harry's mother. In some ways I think of his feelings as part of the ancient magic that she used to protect Harry. I did like how Rowling showed his side of things... the cruelty he was subjected to by "the good guys". We always think we're the good guys, even as we hurt others.
To be fair that had a lot to do with the whole Griffindor vs Sytherin. And Snape fought back and cursed them as well. He was the one calling people mudbloods and creating dangerous spells in school. He was a death eater willingly.
Snape was the son of a Witch and a Muggle man who abused and abandoned them and ultimately despised the magical world, so he was left with what seemed to be a mother who loved him and meant it well but had little to offer him and little ability to take care of him, not only on a practical and financial level, but also on an emotional one, maybe she had anaclitic depression or something similar. Barricading into his magical side was a psychological survival strategy to him, as to gain control and power over this whole sense of abandonment and powerlessness. The step from refusing to identify himself as partly Muggle to supporting magical supremacism is short, because like every single violent ideology, it works because it gives unhappy and people a sense of control and power.
Always figured Hermione, the bookworm and perfectionist that she is, went back to finish her schooling at Hogwarts as finishing it and her grades were important to her. Unlike her, Harry and Ron probably figured what they had done in the real world was beyond what they could learn at Hogwarts. However, I figured they had tested out and got their diplomas that way.
“they never got their diploma” firstly, you mean their NEWTs and secondly- NO ONE IN THEIR YEAR WOULD HAVE GOT THEM THERE WAS A BLOODY WAR GOING ON this channel needs to sort out her priorities
Most students went back to school next year to take the tests, Hermione included, Ron and Harry simply decided not to.
@@eduardaarrais #lazyronandharry
Or worse, expelled!
You could have got us killed - or worse, EXPELLED!
@@ginnyweasley4908 To be fair i think harry atleast could find a job as auror easily seeing as he defeated one of the strongest wizards of that time.
Wait... Ron and Hermione don’t have a completely perfect relationship??? How could you “ruin” this for me? Wow so shocking.
Not at all,,Their relationship is perfect... JK said Maybe Harry-Harmine was better but is this mean they haven't a perfectly complete relationship!!!!! Haven't interest on real boom I love this film & in film Their relationship is perfect..
Honestly. Its not like everyone has a perfect relationship. Its just obvious. It would be nice tho considering romiones my favorite ship.
@@yourlocalblueberry1205 Well Said
Straight up you right
Hermione could had done better with Harry be less stressful. The reason it turned out like this so all them could be related. Just like how they did with twilight. Her going with Ron was the only way for Hermione to still be related to Harry other than marriage and for Ron not to be left out.
Not sure if I agree with the last one. Technically, Harry had all three of the hallows at the end of the DEATHLY HALLOWS book, which would make him "master of death." Which is why, I believe, the Voldemort part of him died but Harry himself didn't. I think seeing Voldemort, Snape, and Harry as the three brothers is interesting, but this theory is far fetched, IMO.
It's sad how Ron's been treated by the movies. In the books on the other hand he is portrayed as a really gifted wizard.
"10 Dark Harry Potter Theories that were proved by J.K.Rowling"...Dumbledore is gay
"Dark..."
Agree. Ben Sostaric you are right!!!
Ben Sostaric I literally thought the exact same thing lmao
Thanks for pointing this out to me! I never saw that :3
But still this is concerning "the things."
I hate you I hate you so much **Light chuckle**
The title says “10 DARK theories” Dumbledore being gay is definitely not DARK! Where’s the respect for the LGBT community?! 🌈😓
You know I know that it's been confirmed that Dumbledore is gay but I just don't really see how it changes the story. I guess that it's interesting to know but I just don't get why some people tend to turn it into something huge. Most of the time I personally don't even remember it while reading the books and honestly Dumbledore is a fictional character and I personally feel that you should imagine him however you choose. Not to be distasteful to JK's work or anything I just sorta like the idea of Dumbledore with McGonagall. Does that make me a weirdo or are there other people like me? LOL 😁 😉 please note that this is just my opinion and you're aloud to feel however you want about it.
Dumbledore being gay destroys probably one of the first ships of our childood: him and McGonagall. Not dark but a funny memory for some kids. It went something like "he's old, she's old, so they are meant for each other!!!" It's so funny being a little kid.
Oh but it *does* affect the story, the whole fantastic beast series is based around the dumbledore/grindelwald relationship. If he wasn't gay, Ariana wouldn't have been killed - there would be no duel between them 🌷
Yeah, a sexual orientation shouldn't make a difference in ANYONE's life! (Not just with a movie character as they said.)
SaySkygBlake he is way older then her though
It’s so sad that Hermione has a much shorter lifespan than Ron because she is not a pure blood....
Does that mean Ron has to be alone for another 100 years after Hermione dies?😢
or does being a witch extend her lifespan? After all, Dumbledore is technically half-blood with his mother being muggle-born, & he was set to have a very long life before he had to arrange his death
The reason Ron and Hermione COULD be amazing together is because with conscious effort, they would both drive each other to become more well rounded individuals. Ron gets Hermione to relax and live in the moment and Hermione gets Ron to put more thought into his actions. You see the changes later on in both of them somewhat. Hermione a bit earlier and Ron in the last book. Check out the relationship between INTJ and ENFP as an example of this. Not just speculation but as an INTJ who met the perfect person who not only made me happy but made me want to constantly better myself in order to make her happier every day than she was the last.
I do agree with you but I think Hermione is an ISTJ. INTJs tend to be more arrogant and even though they value rules they don't think they apply to them if it doesn't suit them. Plus they are more sarcastic, filled with dark humor and colder towards people. Another difference is that INTJs manage to be creative in some ways, while the same cannot be said for ISTJs or Hermione really. Finally Snake is an INTJ, Voldemort is an INTJ and I don't think Hermione has the same personality type as them. No offense is meant for the INTJs though, just sharing facts here and to be honest I am one myself so...
Is Ron really an ENFP? I'm an ENFP and I just don't feel that LOL.
Anyways yes Ron and Hermione could have made each other better but the problem is Ron treats her like shit. He basically magically snaps out it near the end of the series, but that's not realistic. There's a reason J.K. Rowling has basically admitted that the pairing was a bad idea. If the author of the book can see it I don't know why other people can't 😂
@@mary-catherineelizabeth7277 agrees with the author till they say dumbledore is gay and hermione is black
JK: Dumbledore is gag
Fan: I can’t see him as gay
JK: maybe that’s because gay people just look like people
efsdude 12 go gagged Dumbledore?
He's gag
It never actually gives us a proper reason for us to believe he is
Claire Goodchild she said he had a crush on Grindawald and Lockhart. At least that’s what I’ve heard.
@@user-ls2je3bc1u She said he is, and there is nothing to contradict it in the story, that's reason good enough
Conspiracy theory This channel is employed by Rita Skeeter
Why is this comment so underrated?
Could be true... A couple of things the woman said was completely wrong lol
Lol😆😂😂😂
And the take. I used to like it but they lost a subscriber
Ron and Hermione work as a couple because they challenge each other. Ron challenges Hermione to take her nose out of books and enjoy real life. Hermione challenges Ron to be more thoughtful and considerate of people’s feelings. Both enjoyed the sparring between each other because they saw one another as worthy opponents. I think of the dynamic between Harry, Ron, and Hermione as very similar to the dynamic between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy in the original Star Trek.
Also, here’s a link to a great video on how the movies really screwed up Ron’s character. th-cam.com/video/lCzxwcBZFuI/w-d-xo.html
I have a dark Harry Potter theory of my own that I never managed to post. It revolves around a character that was long hated by everyone even though he gave up any chance for love or glory so he could work as a double agent for Dumbledore under Voldemort and being the downfall of the Dark Lords army from within. Of course I am referring to… Peter Petigrew!
What you didn’t see that coming? It’s actually a long involved story which I can’t put down in the comments box but the cliff notes version is-
After Dumbledore hears the prophecy he realizes he has a chance to destroy the Dark Lord once and for all but he needs the help of one wizard to do it. A wizard who has always aspired to bravery but has never managed to find much of it in himself. He convinces Peter to put aside his feelings and his personal interests and do what’s best for the entire world which requires removing Voldemort from it! But to bring about Voldemort’s fall… sacrifices had to be made.
Lily and James were sacrificed so Voldemort could “mark” Harry “as his equal” like the prophecy said and Sirius was framed so Harry could go to the Dursley’s where the protection spell carried by his Aunt Petunia could protect him until he came of age. It also would provide some time for the wizarding world to recover and allow Peter to fake his death so he could position himself to protect Harry in a less open form.
Fast forward to Sirius’ escape from Azkaban, Dumbledore hadn’t planned for that and it almost derailed the entire plan. Peter had to hide out and then when caught play the part of a coward because revealing the real reason he betrayed Lily and James might turn them against Dumbledore and then it would all have been for nothing.
After getting Sirius on the run Dumbledore decided his best choice was to accelerate his plans. In order for Voldemort to truly be destroyed they needed him exposed so he allowed Harry to be caught so the Dark Lord could return trusting Harry’s disarming skill and twin core wand to protect him and he had the only known two way portkey to ever exist to escape with. Why make a two way portkey for the trap you set up? It makes no sense to provide such an easy escape for the people you’re trying to capture!
In the final book when Harry was captured isn’t it a bit “convenient” that Aberforth just happened to look in the mirror at the right time to see Harry needed help and managed to figure out the exact place to send Dobby to rescue them? Maybe he had already been told where they were and only checked the mirror to confirm. But if that’s the case who told him? I’ve got a guess!
At the end of it all he pretended to try to stop them and die as a coward so that the kids would keep on the path.
He had sacrificed everything, even his friends, his human life and any chance he once had of being seen as anything but a coward all to save the wizarding and Muggle world from the scourge of Voldemort and the death eaters.
Thoughts? Questions? Comments?
This makes to much sence, why else would he be in Griffin, damn what a true tragic path he walked.
If you read the series again with an open mind and this theory in consideration almost everything changes!
I seem to recall that the 7th year at Hogwarts was optional. The characters were all considered adults at 17, before starting their 7th year, the Trace broke when they turned 17, the Weasley twins both left Hogwarts before finishing her 7th year, and I think at least 1 character directly said the 7th year was optional.
Technically all of Hogwarts is optional but leaving ur 7th counts as dropping out. Like Hermione did her 7th year but Kingsley Shacklebolt the new minister said that if anyone survived and fought in the battle of hogwarts he believed that they were good enough to be aurors
It’s like how some people are 18 in the 12 year they don’t just leave because they can because that would mean dropping out
@@Vanilla_Icecream1231 so that's how Harry got to be one without finishing school?
@@markmagician2471 yes exactly ron joined too and became an auror for some time but ended up working with George on the joke shop. Nevill also became an auror but later became a herbology teacher
Wrong. 7th year is required. You must have some newts for your particular job. Not everyone goes for it and stick to owls.
I remember this channel now. *Put it on my list of channels to never visit again.*
XD I go here to rant.
Click baiting fans
Oof
Buffy8Fan why?
No
I distinctly remember reading that Harry and Ron went back to school. Harry and Ginney were both seniors at the same time (even though Harry was a year older). It was during this time that Harry and Ginney deepened their connection and realized they were soul mates.
Actually, Dumbledore was born in 1881, and having died in 1997, he was 115. Though that doesn't actually debunk wizards living until 200, as despite being over 100, he had the spryness of a Muggle half his age until Half-Blood Prince, when the combination of his duel with Voldemort in the Ministry of Magic and being affected by the Withering Curse placed on the Gaunt Ring sapped his energy.
It’s hardly a dark secret that dumbledore likes to have a wand up his diagon alley
I think I love you!
@@CreepyPasta221 I was going to go with ‘in his forbidden Forrest’
Someone with Reddit please put this on r/CursedComments
@@candykittenlove2504 I’ll do it RIGHT NOW
@@animalcrossingguru1013 can i have a dinosaur by my name
Actually Jk Rowling confirm about regretting Hermonie not being with Harry instead of Ron. Please use correct information
Rowling also mentioned once wanted to put her with one of the twins (Fred I think) but in the end it was Ron.. Harry or one of the twins would have been better with Hermione. Although I like (book) Ginny and Harry.
She never said she regretted that Hermione didn't end up with Harry. She only said that maybe Ron and Hermione wasn't the best couple.
HerMonie and harry should be a cuple
Katie Sawyers they would make the best cuple
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Harry Potter.
Neville Longbottom.
Teddy Lupin.
Delphi Riddle.
4 kids who grew up with no parents.
3 kids who grew up with dead parents.
2 kids who grew up to be absolutely great.
1 kid who grew up to be normal.
1 kid who grew up to be evil.
*Me re-watching the HP series*
My friend: You really watch this shit bro?
Me: Smh... filthy muggle!
I know a shocking fact
*Harry is Ron's brother in law*
@Renee McPhail stupidest lol
Lukepoketube TV why
"Best friend got the girl, so i nailed his sister." - Harry Potter
Well duhhh he is married to ginny rkns sister
Lukepoketube TV and
“Dark theories”
“Wizards lifespan”
"Dark theories" Dumbledore is gay
Dear lord. Tom Riddle was a student in Hogwarts and opened the Chamber of Secret 50 years prior to Harry’s time. That made him a teen in early 1940’s. How did you think he lived to 130’s?
Honestly, it wouldn’t of made much sense for all three of them to go back to Hogwarts I mean imagine Harry sitting through defense against the dark arts when he Had won a battle against Voldemort
As far as I am concerned, the fact that they survived 9 months on the run while hunting horcruxes and being hunted themselves, to ultimately destroy all remaining horcruxes, and defeat Voldemort; they graduated.
They used Defense Against The Dark Arts, Charms, Potions, Herbology, Transfiguration, Care Of Magical Creatures. They most definitely passed any test they could have been given in their N.E.W.T.s, and I believe the Ministry Of Magic acknowledged this when they hired Harry and Ron.
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You are so clickbatey!!!! You said we would get information on how Dumbledor is not as innocent as he seems and what did you give us? Confirmation on one of jk Rowling's favourite theories about some symbolism!!!!
And the thumbnail was somehow even *more* clickbatey!!!! Nowhere through the video did you hint that Hermione could have cheted on Ron!!!! Bloody hell!!!!
Edit: so I did some research and I found that Dumbledor died 115 years old, not 150!!! Though I get how you may have been confused, they sound very similar, but you could at least have double checked your sources!!! Heck, Potermore has his birthday *and* deathday! It only takes subtraction to figure the age in which he died!!! Man, I'm mad!!!
Rowling recently said that Hermione would have been better off with Harry...but she contradicted her own work in GOF (which established they only see each other as siblings). So Rowling herself might be going a little senile.
@@robertmcintyre3480 well, I suppose that kinda makes sense, but if she had Ron and Hermione marry each other for "personal reasons" then maybe they are based on two people who eventually got married!!! I mean, Ron is, right?
I angrily agree with you!!!!!!!
Ferga Ferger calm down friend, I completely agree with your annoyance 🙂
ro781727 Rowling actually did think of putting Harry and Hermione tgt, but if they were tgt that means that Ron wouldn’t have a partner. So she thought it would be better to pair Ron and Hermione, since Harry can be with Ginny
I agree with the statement that a person's sexuallity shouldn't matter on who they are..... which is why the information of Dumbledore being gay being released before the information came out in fantastic beasts felt a little like a push for Rowling to show how woke and accepting she was and ruined the reveal. It didn't matter who or what Dumbledore was or did until Rowling made it matter.
"A bit slow" is such a 'movie' way to describe Ron
Plot twist: J.K actually wanted to kill Arthur Weasley in the 5th book, but changed her mind so she just added on the whole part about the department of mysteries.
She also wanted to kill Ron but instead she killed off Fred
As she didn't killed Arthur, she in exchange killed Tonks and Lupin
@@dario6463 She killed the best people.
@@dario6463 bad choice if you ask me, Remus' arc is left incomplete
Draco: Hello
Hermione: Did u just slide into my dm's
Draco: I guess I may have slyther-ed-in
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dramoine is life
The movies may show it but draco and Hermione are no ship read the books you dumb muggles
“10 DARK fan theory’s that turned out to be true”
Later: Dumbledore is gay
"Dumbledore is GAY" I FKN lost it 🤣
AAAND VOLDEMORT WAS FRICKIN 71 YEARS OLD WHEN HE GOT DEFEATED. HE WAS 11 WHEN HE JOINED HOGWARTS 17 WHEN LEFTED. THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS WAS OPENED 50 YEARS AGO WHEN HARRY WAS 11 SO VOLDEMORT WAS 61 SO WHEN HARRY WAS 17 HE WAS 71. GOSH YOU PEOPLE NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCHING OR USE BRAINS.
When the chamber of secrets was open, Tom was in his sixth year. That means he was 16 or 17. If it was opened 50 years before Harry was 12, that means Voldemort had 66 or 67. And when hr was defeated, he was around 71. So technically he's right
And the chamber of secrets was opened when Harry was in his second year, that means he was 12 years old, btw
left*
SAME THOUGH LIKE DO U MATHS
Man Cee harry was 12 in the chamber of secrets
Yeah these were confirmed by Rowling but nowadays she’s gone nuts and will say anything to keep her book series alive and thriving
How dare you say that to the best person on earth.You're a Muggle and I'm sure the Dursleys will like you. By the way, get away from me, I'm a pure-blood.
@@chineseembassysarajevo1628 shes not the best shes literally transphobic
@@chineseembassysarajevo1628 and you need to chill... she’s really not the best, and a lot of things in her series are actually pretty stereotypical -_-
@@completelyuseless1387 Well you're right.
@@izzykelly9526 oh this is comment due to everyone trying to cancel her new book? Or is it some other thing she did? X
Dumbledore being gay was pointless. So pointless that it was never alluded to in the book.
Dumbledore was very close to Grindlewald while he was in Hogwarts.
You can effectively "test out" of school, skipping ahead to college, or whatever. I always figured Harry and Ron effectively did the same, in the wizarding world. They didn't "drop out" as much as they advanced past what the school had to offer. I always assumed they were granted "diplomas" for their real life achievements, in saving the world from an evil that adults could not.
As school projects go, defeating Voldemort, does seem like it should earn them top grades!
I figured they could go far with Order of Merlin first class, but then could also take some N.E.W.T.s at the Ministry over the summer, like the Apparation Test.
didnt go to college i suppose?
I hated that decision
1:51 You are so wrong. Ron and Hermione are complete opposites, which is what makes them so compatible. Hermione helps him keep organized and Ron makes sure she's taking care of herself. But the thing is, Ron is the only person who can keep up with Hermione for the most part. She loves a good debate and only Ron can give her that. It's also worth noting that with Hermione and Harry, Hermione "wilts" whenever Harry lets out his anger. Harry needs someone who can handle his anger and Hermione can't give him that. In short, he needs someone like Luna or Ginny. Hermione and Ron have always cared for each other and they both are a match made in heaven.
U read my mind
Khushi Thanki Look, name one time where Harry and Hermione had good, sexual chemistry.
@@trishareddy2570 During the hunt for the horcrux.. when they traveled through time.. Ron and Hermione have been forced together because that's how the Rowling had decided to make the story go. But after distancing herself from the story, she said she regretted not making Harry end up with her, because ron and hermione would have had an unhealthy relationship.
Thank you. My thoughts exactly
@Khushi Thanki they would be horrible together
*10 Dark Harry Potter Theories*
'Dumbledore is gay'
Me: wow so dark
10 dark theories:
“Dumbledore is gay”
Hmmmmmmm 🤔
Here's a suggestion: when you're gonna make a video about 'dark' theories, might as well add dark music. The jolly and cheery music in the background kills the vibe instantaneously.
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How is Dumbledore being gay considered a “dark theory”…?? That’s a big YIKES.
That last one is an extreme bruh moment, but makes so much ironic sense that it hurts.
“Many of us grew to hate and mistrust snape”he was my favorite character lollll
I guess he is talking about the fans of the marauders who defend what james and sirius did was not bullying , that it was " rivalry" and snape also " did things to them'...yeah, because a bullying victim defends themselves doesn't make them less of bullying victim? And yeah he was absorbed into the death eaters, he regretted it and paid for that mistake with the rest of his life too. Also, yeah, surely a kid isolated who comes from an abusive home and is bullied and marginalized at school is not at all an easier target for brainwashing by basically a terrorist group, yeah, no correlation at all 🙄 🤦🏼♀️
snape was an awful person though. he bullied the kids he taught (forcing neville to almost poison his toad bc a potion had gone wrong, making fun of hermione’s teeth etc) and favoured his own house very blatantly, his obsession with lily was really creepy and didn’t even stop once she died. the only reason he stopped being a deatheater was because lily died and when she did, he literally just stepped over james’ body and ignored a crying baby in the room to hug her body?? he had absolutely no reason to be so shitty towards his students yet he did it anyway. i’m sick of people thinking he was a good person just because he wasn’t on voldemort’s side in the end
@@maijak2794 he’s neither good nor bad. People are complex. JK Rowling wrote him really well. He’s a super complicated character.
@@maijak2794 Yeah it's so weird to think that they bullied kid gets treated fairly and kindly by one person, couldn't possibly fall deeply in love with that person. To the point where he became extremely proficient at her best discipline, just to try and impress her. How could one think that's a thing, but no instead he's creepy....
A well played antagonist type character often becomes a fan favorite. Darth Vader, the Joker, Hannibal Lecter, Freddie Kreuger, the Terminator, and Thanos as examples.
Roses are red, Violets are Blue, ( They're actually purple XD ) I came for the the thumb nail, so did you.
yes...
Lafayette Levy I came for the thumbnail cuz I was like noooo hermione how could u. And then after watching the video realize they just did it for views.
I did
Lafayette Levy No their Violet 😂😉😏
@@saraya_gacha2182 phew 😅
Also Potters because before Harry all in ancestors from his father's side were pure-bloods. Not just Weasleys
You can tell who ever wrote this only saw the movies…. Love how everyone in the comments knows the difference between book Ron and movie Ron .
*Dumbledore is death*
Yeah right.. ..
*Actually makes sense*
WAIT, WHAT?
@@GOTHAMDEFENSE oi, mate, issa joke. I wouldn't reply if I hated it
Makaylee Oof Well it isn’t funny. It’s rude and offensive and could hurt somebody.
I think JKR struggled to kill off Mr. Weasley as opposed to Fred, not Lupin.
P.S. Hermione did not cheat on Ron as your thumbnail implies.
And Hermione’s parents did not permanently lose their memories. Hermione restored them when she found them after the battle in (France.). Lockhart’s spell backfires and what is really dark was that he was using a spell with such force and effect that he suffered, on a teenage boy, Ron. What would have been the effect on Ron, close to the effect on him?
Werent they in Australia?
In the book Hermione did find her parents and restored there memory...however in the movie Hermione said Obliviate. No coming back from that.
missfangirlcentral I actually think that the video was correct, I swear I read somewhere that she killed lupin and tonks instead of Arthur
Mr. Weasley didn't die. She was contemplating killing him off in Book 5, but as we know she killed Sirius instead.
MissPXoXo
It’s actually both. She was going to kill either Sirius or Arthur in Order of the Phoenix then had the Deathly Hallows debate.
i love how she calls being a death eater a lifestyle
Dumbledore wasn't around 150 years old.
He was born in 1881, and died in either 1997 or 1998. Simple math equates the to 116/117
How is it dark to be gay?
How is it dark that wizards have longer lifespans?
because we get to stand in the shadows and watch straight people have the conditioned idea in their head that it’s normal for them to dislike/hate their partner
Well I guess since gay technically means happy then not at all dark
@@peytonepler516 I completely agree
I don't know
Deathly Hallows is the Infinity War of Harry Potter
@@lilsway5071 nah nah we talkin about the books
@@hellothere5030 holy chit man i commented that 5 months ago
@@lilsway5071 If you commented that 5 months ago, then that means you replied to the original comment 7 months ago.
@@hellothere5030 nahhh
And then, 6 years after our last scene from the movies, Hermione divorces Ron because of his gambling problem; then she comes out of the closet and moves in with Luna. Harry turns out to be a wife beater and Ginny ran off to fight ISIS and got killed. The Potter children get expelled from Hogworts and Harry winds up opening a used broom lot, becoming the Cal Worthington of the Wizarding World.
I feel like Harry, Ron and Hermione should have been allowed just to take final exams/N.E.W.T's instead of doing a final year. Hermione would refuse to take the exams since, "It just wouldn't feel right" to her, but Harry and Ron would take them and pass. They all demonstrated amazing magic and skill during the second war that it should have basically counted as graduating.