The WEIRD resin printing trick that PERFECTLY tensions my resin vat FEP Sheets
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ก.ย. 2020
- So I cannot tell you how many FEP sheets I wasted because I could never get the tension right or had uneven tension, Then I figured out this simple hack that changed how I change my FEP vats on all my non Mars and Photon printers.
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Mounting the FEP is like stretching a canvas. Its best to start your mounting screws in the center of the armature not the corners otherwise the center will loosen as you poke holes. This allows you to tug the corner to maintain tension if needed and makes sure that the tightest point of the stretched material is the center where printing most often occurs.
That process definitely makes sense but does run counter to quite a bit of "official" instructions of most of the printers I own. Fortunately with most things in printing, there are several solutions to the same problem.
I do appreciate the clear explanation in mechanics of tensioning the FEP sheet like a canvas on a frame and I'll pin it to provide value to anyone else reading in the comment section
That's the way I do it too but this hack might make it even easier.
You are quite right, Dynath. Stretch from a point halfway down each side to the center of the opposite side, and then to the center of the two remaining sides, as with a canvas, rather than starting with a corner. I'm sure you know if you start with a corner, you can usually get the first side right-straight, but if you fail to keep tension on the second side, the line of holes can creep inward. Do that again for the third, opposite side, and you are, perhaps, setting the stage for a sag as you near the end of the fourth side...which would be pretty disappointing.
Well spotted!
Then proceed to corners? or lateral middles?
What about using a drum head tensioner to get equal tension all the way around.
Information starts at 4.30. . . .
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Thank you
Not all heroes wear capes.
I have failed twice at replacing my FEP and was getting frustrated. Watched this video and 20min later success, this worked like a charm, very easy to do and turned out better than the original. Much appreciated Hiro!!
As a new person to resin printing, I am glad I ran across this video early. I think you saved me some headaches in the future! Thx subbed
Welcome to the amazing rabbit hole of an adventure that is 3d printing.
Okay this is a wild and awesome tip! I’m 100% going to try this
Awesome! Glad you liked the tip. It really shines with larger vats. Another subscriber swears by the cardboard frames for replacing FEP sheets on his Transform.
It works perfectly
@Uncle Jessy everytime I see yiur pfp, I see Prince Sidon
Design and 3d print a jig for this on your FDM printer. I'm going to design one for my Saturn.
Video starts at 2:16
Shorten the intro, it will increase viewer retention. Good tip though!
thanks
4:16
Thanks. This isn't weird, it's a practical solution to a complicated problem and it is really appreciated. Your thinking is in order :)
Just wanted to say thanks. Saw this video posted on an FB group. First time changing an FEP, followed your technique, and it turned out great. Onward with printing!
Awsesome! Glad to hear the hack worked for you! More printer hacks to come :)
I've just changed my Sonic Mini 4k's nfep film with this trick and it's awesome!! I got successful tensioning before without this with a lot of effort but still was not perfect. With this I got perfect tensioning, first try, effortlessly. You rock!!
sounds great, haven't had the need to change my FEP sheet yet but I will try to remember the trick
About to change my first FEP, this looks to be an awesome way to ensure I don't have a bad time! Thanks!
Elegoo Mars owner here. Thanks for stating that the hack is not useful for me. Thumbs up on the video for that.
Finally a proper tip for installing the FEP, thank you!
Man that is great how you found this ideal. I would never though of this. Great job 👏
Thanks! I basically had the same idea, just to use tape insted of a stapler. Your video convinced me, that my idea was okay. And yeah: today for the first time in my
life I changed a FEP (on my Saturn 3 ultra) and it sits perfect at first try! 😸
Nice idea. Also your explanation of how the different vats are assembled answered the question I was looking for. Thanks!
Good stuff! I came up with a similar solution using the vat and frame to do the same thing, just without stapling to cardboard first. The advantage to your system is that you don't have to worry about the FEP slipping while you're setting the screws!
i came across ur method before i had ever needed to replace my FEP, so i have only ever used this and it works really well... i enjoy ur other videos also, many thanks for ur advice, glenn
Thank you so much! I'm finally getting prints again :)
So simple and yet so efficient ! I was searching for a way to get the good tension on my LD 002R vat, gotta try that one ! Thanks
Did it work for you?
I just did this, first time replacing the FEP and it worked perfectly, Went in nice and tight. Thank you.
Now if the FEP sheet manufacturers got wind of this, maybe they could start pre tensioning and mounting the FEP on cardboard during manufacture. It would make their product much easier to use
imagine if they came with a slight gasket like a car motor head gasket or something. unscrew old, clean tray, pull new one from an envelope, screw it in, attach vat and fill. easy.
@@aunderiskerensky2304 Yes please
Thanks for putting this together! I've been battling this on my Saturns for a few weeks now... Such a handsy process. Would be amazing if there was some sort of clamping, sealing type process to bypass all these screws and also to minimize tension issues.... Maybe in time we'll get some major leaps on these things.
You have no idea how happy I am to see a new video from you in my notifications!
I am slowly coming back online. So hopefully I will be more visible on the feeds
This worked perfectly for me! Thank you!!!!!
I can confirm that this hack does indeed work, and not just work... It works 1000%. I've been 3D printing for a little over a year and have been using this tip on all of my resin printers and the results are flawless. Getting the perfect amount of tension is vital for a successful print and although I have suffered some print failures this was never down to the FEP. So, Thank you SO SO much for sharing this tip it has saved me a fortune on buying replacement FEP as I have been able to use a single FEP sheet continuously for up to a month if not a little longer before needing to replace. :D
Impressive ! Gave you a thumbs up and you got another Sub. I don't own a 3d resin printer maybe next year, but I need to learn as much as possible before pulling the trigger. This video was very educational and provided a necessary process that one should learn. Thanks for sharing.
Really cool tip, I'll give it a got when time comes.
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Thanks! :)
DUDE: this hack is SIMPLY AWESOME AND THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
another tip i'd suggest is to not tighten down the screws in a circular motion. you should always use a "star" pattern to tighten things. you get each screw started and then tighten them corners first alternating from far corner to far corner all the way around the vat. you never fully tighten all screws at once you work them in slowly until all are tight.
Amazing hack. Thanks for sharing.
Great ideas are always simple...nice one!
would be cool if someone designed a fep-installation frame that can be 3d printed!
Great hack buddy. I'll definetly try it when I change my FEP sheet and I will give you a shout.
Great tip buddy, thanks!
this is actually pretty sick. Thanks man.
Awesome hack for keeping the FEP taught while installing it onto the vat!
Thanks! :)
Great idea. I was afraid of trying to change my fep, but not anymore
simply genious... great engineering solutions come from simple ideas like this... practial, low cost and efectice
guess i got lucky replacing ma first FEP
but I also understand the logic in what you are doing here.
nice idea!
got a feeling it's time to change ma current FEP.
will try this out
Brilliant! Just about to try it now. Liked & subscribed - thanks for the vid.
Awesome hack, Thank you
Great tip! Thanks!
Thanks! :)
Don't have a printer yet, but I watch all the vids I can. This is a GREAT video!!!! I'm now subscribed. THANKS!!!!
Thanks you so much, useful hack for my Halot One Pro
I love the vibe and style of your videos. I'm working on starting my channel, as well, and I wish you all the best on this journey, I think you've definitely got the right personality and content.
I'd love to see videos on exotic colors or formulas, if you have any of those!
Drop a link to your channel in the comments, I am always up for supporting fellow small creators.
I have been really blessed to be able to experiment and test with a ton of new experimental resin blends from an awesome new resin startup. I definitely have more resin content planned both for specifically about the resins as well as new things I learned about resins in general.
Fantastic, simple hack!
As a drummer, this is exactly the same as tensioning a tom. I even tap on the sheet with my finger at each screw location to listen for identical tone!
Brilliant. Great idea.
mate , ive had my phrozen tray needs it replaced this hack makes me not so scared, liked and subscribed :)
I think it would be very easy to over-tighten your FEP doing this exactly as shown. I don't mean like you suggest in your video, pulling it tight to the point it starts to deform - thats WAY beyond overtensioned: you actually need your FEP to be a little bit loose so that the peeling action is spread over the surface of your FEP. This is why some use a bottle cap under their Anycubic style gasket when replacing a FEP.
If your FEP is too tight then layers of the print, as they peel off will be in contact with the whole FEP. You want it to be a bit loose so that whilst it peels from the edge, the middle is still attached. This spreads the forces across the layer gradually, rather than everywhere at once. You'll see less suction related fails this way.
Yes, thats the awnser...i do it that way
Currently trying to find the distance for my FEP on an AnyCubic Photon M3 Max, I am sure a bottle cap is not the same between models and adjustment is needed for bigger films...
The manufacturers probably have some kind of installation jig that helps them install them quickly and easily, something like an external frame that they can quickly clamp onto a sheet to keep it just right.
I mean... I am very certain they don't have some guy sitting in a corner putting these in. This is definately machine work
Awesome tip, thank you
No problem!
It’s brilliant,let them hate you ,we love these hints ! Keep at it .
Good hack! Thank you so much
what a life saver man, thanks a lot
AMAZING, maravilloso. Ur a genius, too easy, to great.
Hey Hiro (Yasu) I’m new to your channel. Thank you for your educational tips!
Glad to have you here! Hopefully the new resin print tips is helping make printing easier for you.
i used this trick and it worked. thank you
Glad the trick worked out for you! :)
@@HiroCreations just used your trick again. worked again :)
@dumbcat Awesome! Glad the trick still holds up.
Just got my first resin printer, will remember this when the time comes to replace the FEP. i think I might try to design and print (on my FDM-printer) a frame for this purpose, maybe a two part one that clips or screws together to pretension the FEP.
Thanks! very clever!
That power armor is amazing!
Thank you for this - You've earned my sub.
works awesomely!
Holy shit!! Thank you so much for this!! I wanted to throw my printer through the window. 😂😂
thanks for this one,so so much better than how ive been doin it
I'm going to have to try that.
Got my sub with this vid. Thanks Hiro
really good video !
Simple and makes perfect sense
Awesome, I went through like 5 sheets for my elegoo saturn because of how frustrating it was. I ended up sending the whole printer back and going back to FDM printers. Just a big nope... but I may try again one day because of this.
great idea
Hey ppl so I'm new to this and I know this is an old video, so the FEP is similar to a drum head and if you go to a music store you can get yourself a head tensioner. I haven't used one but the other day I was tapping my Mars 2Pro FEP and realized that when I go to change it I will try it.
you only have 8k subs!? You deserve more!! Your vids are super helpful and awesome!
The sensual hand grab got you a sub. lol 😂
DUDE. BEST. HACK. EVER.
just tried ur trick... hope i did it right... fingers crossed for no leaks. Wish me luck! lol
Ha. You are so much fun to watch and listen to.
I love this method. The only things that made this feel sketchy was being told it wasn't sketchy and that manufacturers hate it.
Make a cheap rig to keep tension on your FEP, and saying it is wat cheaper and easier than designing, printing or building a permanent mounting tools is making a disposable frame...
I hate "company hates this trick" but I do love your content
I also hate click-bait titles like, the TRUTH about..., or before you buy, you HAVE to watch this. Gets old.
Nice, I’ve found a video with the same trick in the usb key of my SLA. About 2 years ago.
thank you for shairing
That's actually pretty neat!!!:) SUBSCRIBED:)
Subbing, this is a cool hack! I have the Mars Pro 2, so thinking it has the initial soluble vat feature but this is great to know
wow... this makes me so happy to have an elegoo.
Makes sense, thanks.
I think, you can do the same (without the cardbord frame) if you didn't push metal frame into the VAT just before pokeing and screwing the FEP!. Simply lay the FEP on the VAT, then lay the metal frame on the FEP (without pushing it), poke the holes and screw the FEP in few steps (first just to hold the FEP in right position , next few steps to increase eavenly the tension )
Elegoo sell their vats and I'm pretty sure they fit most of the other brands that use the same format. You'll have to put up with a red plastic vat (unless they started selling the metal ones again) but they work.
Found this by accident while searching for nFEP videos actually. Will try this trick out! Cheers :)
Subscribed too! Will check your other content when I get a chance!
Worked great on an Anycubic Photon M3. Just split the plastic original into the two halves and then did the trick....
Hold up, Anycubic is using plastic gaskets for machine as large as the M3?
Phrozen mighty 8k has the sandwhich style pretensioner for the fep -- purchased mine in february 2023. Gottta say -- the quality of the screws/threads is very tight. Maybe that means it'll last longer? But it's a PITA to change. Atleast they updated it to be less of a PITA though!!!
Sooner or later I need experience the 1st time to change my FEP, I hope with this method, it’ll work out so I can continue printing with the same quality as the old FEP from manufacturer ... :)
I learned that I don't have to worry about this with my Elegoo Mars. Very helpful information lmao.
beautiful tip*
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Thanks!
Got to ask if this will work on the vats with 2 part FEP frames? Looks like the one you were using is just the vat and one part frame that bolts straight to the vat. My Mono X has a 2 part frame and I was just wondering if this would work on it.
This hack is actually designed to mimic the effect of the dual frame designs that the Photon, Mars, and Mono X use to hold the FEP before you tighten it down. So this hack is not necessary for you.
@@HiroCreations do you know if the Elegoo Saturn also has the two part frame? I'm also new to resin printing and the new manager of 10 Saturns (I know, right?)
So I want to make sure I know how to not break them when the time comes to swap parts. We're actually doing the same type of printing as you! (Minis) We're doing it as part of vertical integration.
@@PuckLokin you'll be fine, I can't speak for newer batches of Saturn's but the older batches used a dual gasket to pretension the FEP.
what's your opinion on the PET/EVA laminating pouches hack?
I don't have enough hours of tests done but it sorta works, but I noticed its really "brittle" as a print failure usually guaranteed a leak onto the screen.
Orange 4k uses 2 gaskets. So, thanks for the tip!!
I started watching the video and you showed the leaks, and I thought, "Weird, I never get that." But I have an Elegoo Mars 2 Pro, and before I had an Anycubic Photon. I had no idea other manufacturers got this wrong.
Yup, and the irony is that the same manufacturers are still getting it wrong on vat design with their newer mono screen interations.