20 Minutes Of Useless Coilover Info

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    WE ARE BACK with another 20 minutes of absolutely useless information about Coilovers. Well actually, its all very useful. In this video, Alex brings you guys a whole list of facts and information regarding Coilovers! Some you may know but others you probably don't! So sit back, grab your popcorn and enjoy the soothing voice of your favorite TH-camr!
    Let us know down in the comments what you guys want to hear about next! WE ARENT STOPPING!
    #Cars #uselessinformation #coilovers
    Time Stamps
    0:00 Intro
    1:05 General Coilover Questions
    3:19 Do You NEED an Alignment?
    4:25 Do You NEED Camber Plates?
    5:55 Is Cheaper Better?
    8:20 Pointless Products
    10:03 Let's Talk Pricing
    12:07 KW Coilovers
    14:28 BC Racing Coilovers
    16:18 Coilover Components
    18:10 What Are Swift Springs?
    19:27 Outro
    Let us know in the comment's down below what you want to see next
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  • @MartiniWorksOfficial
    @MartiniWorksOfficial  หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If you need coilovers, or ANY other car parts, mod your car at www.MartiniWorks.com!

  • @datguy013
    @datguy013 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Alex: "this information is useless"
    Us: "this is literally the most useful information"

  • @raptor_jdm
    @raptor_jdm หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    I’ve learned more from TH-cam than I ever did at school

    • @sopretty43vr
      @sopretty43vr หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      youtube university. same bro i grew up on here 98 baby

    • @jtlatt
      @jtlatt หลายเดือนก่อน

      Facts

    • @Aliens4ever117
      @Aliens4ever117 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TH-cam taught you grammar? TH-cam taught you how to read? TH-cam taught you letters and numbers? TH-cam taught you math? If TH-cam taught you more than school... keep wondering why you make min wage and waste your hours watching TH-cam 👌

    • @Aliens4ever117
      @Aliens4ever117 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@sopretty43vr I'm 92' what's that do with anything? TH-cam University but have no income, no saving, finance your cars and can't afford a mortgage... yeah.. go youtube university 😂😂😂😂 and people why yall are so dumb.

    • @sopretty43vr
      @sopretty43vr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Aliens4ever117 good thing i don’t have college debt ontop of all that lol and i guess your college education made you so smart you can see into strangers lives and know exactly how they are living

  • @datfoohomless
    @datfoohomless หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    keep this series up please!

  • @scottemf
    @scottemf หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I just learned that I'm a snob with my suspension.😂 Never knew that about KW but my dealer told me they're really nice and I know the name...😅

  • @JonBonazza
    @JonBonazza 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i think it’s important to also recognize that many coilover companies offer multile tiers of coilovers. a great example of this is Tein. their entry level coilovers are cheap and get the job done on the street. but they also make some incredibly good motorsports oriented coilovers like the SRCs that are much more expensive but much better quality

  • @DirtDude117
    @DirtDude117 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    For coilovers usually Camber Plates are only optional on McPherson or Strut bases suspension. It's not common on Double Wishbone

  • @skythundersky1544
    @skythundersky1544 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Please do not stop

  • @dantheman1689
    @dantheman1689 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Man, i sincerely appreciate the honesty as I could have over done it and gone with a more expensive set up despite my goal being a decent daily.

  • @Novafro
    @Novafro หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tbh, I think these videos spewing random facts picks up the grey areas where videos about "You want to buy this, here's what you need to know", leave out.
    I've been deciding on a set of Redshift BC coilovers vs KW for my own ride, and this video honestly helped in deciding what I think is right for me vs what might be somewhat overkill, since the most I do is aggressive spirited driving in the mountains, and on almost ever y freeway entrance and exit. So thank you.

  • @kylethompson4130
    @kylethompson4130 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    You guys are the best! Keep up the great content. The Three Amigos, riding together again...on coilover suspension.

  • @TheRealMrRoyal
    @TheRealMrRoyal หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For me on the daily driver, value end. Godspeed and maxspeedingrods t6 or t7 are best dollar for performance. Just look over them and make sure all the bolts/nuts are tight and you'll get just as many years as many $1000ish coils.
    Edit: I'm stating this opinion having owned 50+ cars but never one newer than 2002 other than a 2010 mazdaspeed 3 with godspeeds.

    • @Davorox1
      @Davorox1 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you tried their T7s?
      I'm heavily considering them for my 05 Saab Aero

    • @TheRealMrRoyal
      @TheRealMrRoyal หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Davorox1 yeah I've had them on 7 different honda's and have always been impressed for the price. Just make sure the top hat nut is tightened correctly and preload is even on all 4 (usually is) and I've had great luck with them both slammed as well as just a tad low. They feel nice and seem to last better than the no names or rev9 types.

  • @rishipetrolhead8141
    @rishipetrolhead8141 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Alex I found this video super informative, would love to see one about tires! If you don’t make one about tires they will just remain round pieces of rubber to me forever

  • @Iokua.
    @Iokua. หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The amount of information this man holds in that head of his is insane

    • @AlexMartini.
      @AlexMartini. หลายเดือนก่อน

      big car nerd

  • @JonBonazza
    @JonBonazza 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    i think a lot of people dont realize that certain coilovers are crap because they’ve never driven on a good coilover.

  • @richardjackson7875
    @richardjackson7875 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Glad to see you guys are doing great. Want to see if you have coilovers for '94 to '04 Mustangs. Kudos to you 😊

  • @slfrules1
    @slfrules1 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ohlins Road & Track DFVs been my goal coilovers as long as i've had my car. More i watch reviews i think i'd be better off in some Fortune 500s. An upgrade i always been curious about is Hyperco's hydraulic spring perches. Never seen them used in a build but seems like a solid concept

  • @Psy8ern3t1k
    @Psy8ern3t1k หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you, sir! Thank you for justifying my upgrade to Swift springs when I bought my BC Racing BR series coilovers my V6 New Edge Mustang drift project 😁 I clicked the button for it like, “idk what the difference is, but sure why not.” Now I know 👍 Thanks again! 🤘🏼🔥✌️

  • @SavageBluetick
    @SavageBluetick หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really enjoying the content.

  • @TheDeadCylinders
    @TheDeadCylinders หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    LEts gOOO... one sec gotta grab my notebook

  • @vWheezySzn
    @vWheezySzn หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the content Alex, could you do 20 minutes on lowering springs😭❤️hope to see your car in Appleton sometime 😍

    • @AlexMartini.
      @AlexMartini. หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm on it!

  • @SurgeX798
    @SurgeX798 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m ill so this was a great listen to relax, thanks

  • @thelastsignature
    @thelastsignature หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Loved this

  • @K_Swap_The_World_69
    @K_Swap_The_World_69 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Let's Go! I Love Learning! 😄
    💯💪🏽💯

  • @kevind_53
    @kevind_53 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very well explain 🚗💥💨🔥
    I love useless information like this🚀

  • @loganlovelace1045
    @loganlovelace1045 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just bought Tein coilovers for my GS300 Last night lol

  • @eliezergutierrez2472
    @eliezergutierrez2472 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video is just what I needed. I have a 19 wrx and it’s my daily but I want to take it to the track on occasions during the year. My budget isn’t that high 2k max if necessary. I’d like some recommendations I wanna get some coilovers that ride well on the street since I carry passengers all the time but that can do track duty on occasions

  • @projectjwoo
    @projectjwoo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Miata is the way! on my 2nd now :)

  • @jtlatt
    @jtlatt หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now do lug nuts and chassis bracing, would be cool to know what goes into that kind of stuff and whats good and whats junk

    • @Treaxvour
      @Treaxvour หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lug nuts?

    • @jtlatt
      @jtlatt หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Treaxvour yeah, there are a ton of aftermarket options with fancy “technology” that claim to be better than others. Since they’re the main things holding your wheels to the car would be interesting to know if theres more to them than just threaded metal and marketing.

  • @pennycopperhatch9315
    @pennycopperhatch9315 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOW!....Did not know BC Coils are ReBadged Silvers Coilovers!....lol.....
    I myself have ISC Coils they lasted 7yrs before I had to rebuild the front ones!....I like the Quality & Handling of the ISC Coilovers!

  • @flossum3309
    @flossum3309 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m dropping my 8th gen accord (sedan, k24) on Tein Flex Zs. I’m planning on dropping it 2 inches. Will I need any camber adjustment or arms?

  • @jacobochs5051
    @jacobochs5051 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yo alex i’m still kind of a newborn on coils and stuff like that but i bought some bc racing BR coils for my 2019 accord and i’ve found they’re kind of clunky (not their fault) in the midst of me ATTEMPTING to lower my car i believe i screwed up my preload but i’ll fix that once i figure out how to lower my car correctly. it’s a divorced set up and the back i can tuck tire but need to adjust the shock too not just the spring but the front i can’t get to budge ride height wise. is there a video you could link me to for learning purposes? plz and thank you! love all your content keep it cool brotha

  • @Osedread
    @Osedread หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bloody good info!
    Just got some Bilsteins for my daily. Any thoughts on the brand?

    • @AlexMartini.
      @AlexMartini. หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Great brand!

  • @sythenalpha2037
    @sythenalpha2037 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i just brought some used maxpeedingrods coilovers for my mx-5 for $13 (£10) i know they're not going to be good but ill be trying to sort all the known fitment issues with them and just have a laugh with how bad they are they might surprise me tho. after a respray and de rusting

    • @AngelWingrc
      @AngelWingrc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Give us an update!

    • @sythenalpha2037
      @sythenalpha2037 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AngelWingrc i will im waiting for my mate (a salvage guy) to get the other 2 as i only have the front at the moment but ill be buying the paint soon and getting to work on them i will be documenting it on instagram as and when

  • @mvp3100
    @mvp3100 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    How to dial in coilovers/ suspension parts for different application.

    • @VinRZ
      @VinRZ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Checkout Motoriq, Mike has a series on how to setup damper clicks. If you're talking about proper motorsport setup, you have gotta read up about roll center, bumpsteer, bump/droop ratio, critical damping, and anti geometries.

  • @ANT63
    @ANT63 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would say is the best exhaust for a 03 Subaru wrx?

  • @ZL279_
    @ZL279_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hooray for more “useless” info!

  • @akimbo.1887
    @akimbo.1887 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trying to decide between Feal 441+ and KW v1. Really wish the KWs came with Swift springs.

  • @blazeplayz227
    @blazeplayz227 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have any videos similar to this on air bags? I've watched you're old one at FI a long time ago but was wondering if you had any new inputs

  • @jub2650
    @jub2650 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any thoughts on k sport

  • @beawsome7722
    @beawsome7722 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've got a 97 Del Sol and wanted some advice for what a good OEM replacement would be for dairying and having it a bit sportier and lower. I see on Martiniworks that there are only kW's and they are way out of my price range.

    • @MartiniWorksOfficial
      @MartiniWorksOfficial  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey there! Great question and we can definitely help you out. We can get anything you need even if you don’t see it on the website. Send us an email to help@martiniworks.com and we will give you some options in your budget!

  • @Treaxvour
    @Treaxvour หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why did bc racing discontinue 280zx coilovers?

  • @JackkFrostyy
    @JackkFrostyy หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to ask and I understand if you cant answer but are Evolved Autosport coilovers actual good?

  • @lbmautos
    @lbmautos 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My next frs is going bc racing.

  • @JoeyVilleneuve
    @JoeyVilleneuve หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thoughts on HSD coilovers?

  • @jackwilder4538
    @jackwilder4538 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I gotta ask. I have a 2005 Mazda RX-8 Shinka Edition and I've been looking into Tein vs Raceland. I really like the warranty Raceland offers but want a similar coilover upgrade to some of the low tier/entry level modifications that will be reliable and/or at least covered and have good reviews. Do you think the Raceland set is on a similar level as some of those other sets or am I falling victim to marketing?

    • @samkuehl9609
      @samkuehl9609 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My rx8 that I bought with racelands installed by the previous owner, personally I feel like it ruined the driving experience. Now I'm not a coilover expert just my off hand experience. I am waiting till I have the funds to upgrade but I am not a fan of racelands on my 8. I share 2 rx8s between my dad and myself so that's where my comparison between the stock and racelands are from. Have not had the pleasure of driving one with proper coilover upgrade but hope to one day replace the racelands.

    • @jackwilder4538
      @jackwilder4538 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samkuehl9609 Wow I appreciate that. Can I ask how old they are? If you know?

  • @nicodc2r
    @nicodc2r หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just ordered a KW V1 for my DC2 because im in germany. My car needs TÜV and i live like 40km away from KW 😅.

  • @datfoohomless
    @datfoohomless หลายเดือนก่อน

    have you heard of / how do you feel about race land coilovers, i bought them for my mk7 gti and im about 2000 miles in without a problem so far, main reason i went with them is because they are local to utah.

    • @DropDedFred
      @DropDedFred หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I've had numerous people having them lose out to Solo Werks. 3 examples below.
      Buddy A (MK& GTI) on Solo Werks: Says they're good for the price, but nothing special. They get bumpy and jumpy after some time, roughly 2 years or so in his experience. Tried Race Land but went right back to Solo Werks after about 4 months.
      Buddy B (Focus ST) on Race Land: Hated the Race Land, had issues with failure, purchased Solo Werks.
      Coworker (MK5 GTI) on Race Land: This dude bought the car with Race Lands installed and just shat on them. Not very useful because he just said they sucked with no useful feedback
      Now, that's just 3 accounts out of thousands of people who probably have had no issues with Raceland and love them. Guess you might have to give it a shot and find out.

  • @Rebelranger-wr4yy
    @Rebelranger-wr4yy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, so if i want oem+ springs, who does it cause they all advertise lowering springs.
    Also can we see a video on who is enki and how do they produce all the japanese oem wheels pls

  • @mikecolby2951
    @mikecolby2951 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whats your opinion on Raceland coilovers for a BMW E90?

    • @erikestrada8141
      @erikestrada8141 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just get em or theyre gonna push their own expensive products on you. My ebay ones have been fine for 3 years for daily driving.

  • @ubergourry
    @ubergourry หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about progressive spring rates?

  • @jgfontanez8873
    @jgfontanez8873 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What's your opinion on D2 coilovers? I noticed that you didn't mention it.

  • @707DBC
    @707DBC หลายเดือนก่อน

    How do I get an alignment when they say I’m too low for an alignment at the shop ?

  • @DrVaxxine
    @DrVaxxine หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd enjoy seeing 20 minutes of useless information on how to set up your air suspension and all the options you have for hardware and electronics and how they affect the feeling of the ride.

  • @V9Rock
    @V9Rock หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ohlines on a S2000 worth it?

  • @nhloniphomthembu8043
    @nhloniphomthembu8043 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I didn't know you had your own channel.😭😭

  • @iJakku
    @iJakku หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So I'm at a predicament. I'm loving my kwv2's. But how does it compare to fortune auto 500/510's? I desire a comfortable street performance while also being able to perform and handle on track.

    • @ValentinoDriver
      @ValentinoDriver หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's all about the fluids bro, maybe you can check the fluid type and compression to help figure that out. Look up what the stock specs are and get the closest to it or more performance oriented one. Hopefully it's not too difficult to find out that information.

    • @MartiniWorksOfficial
      @MartiniWorksOfficial  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That should be a pretty similar comparison. Fortune Auto does have the ability to customize the set up a bit further if you want swift springs, and different spring rates

    • @VinRZ
      @VinRZ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Buying FAs will rob you your total suspension travel. You have to know what you're doing with setting up a set of 2 piece coilovers.
      While on the other hand, KW usually makes their shocks specific to the platform, such that they will retain a lot of the factory suspension travel, which is a key to your street comfort.

  • @biouuolf7409
    @biouuolf7409 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can anyone recommend lowering springs for my GR86 I use as a daily? I want the ride to be lower but to avoid riding rough if possible.

    • @VinRZ
      @VinRZ 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Get RCE T0 if you want to just lower the car.

  • @BlueFlame_Botan
    @BlueFlame_Botan หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone seems to recommends RS-R for my platform. Are they a pretty solid coilovers, I imagine so with the price you pay but was curious. Also 🚙

  • @The_SL0WRX
    @The_SL0WRX หลายเดือนก่อน

    What are your thoughts on ISC coils??

  • @toyotabrony
    @toyotabrony หลายเดือนก่อน

    @MartiniWorksOfficial
    Can you do a review of in depth, about KYB?
    Why KYB is the worlds most leading brand in automotive suspension in the aftermarket?
    Why KYB is the best choice for oem shocks and strut replacements?
    Why doesn’t KYB offers monotube like u get Excel G shocks and struts, and most of the time, they don’t offer Gas-a-just monotube shocks and struts for economy vehicles, crossovers?
    But they offer for older vehicles, trucks, SUV’s?
    I wish KYB Monotube shocks and struts for all vehicles. No matter if it’s for sports vehicles, economy, or truck/suv. Or even if it’s a demand or not.

  • @omgness1234
    @omgness1234 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buying coilovers is the easy part, it’s the setting up that’s difficult, and I don’t mean install.

  • @lucasgomide3369
    @lucasgomide3369 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just got Ohlins DFV for my ND Miata(yet to install), why do you never talk about those? are they overpriced for their quality in your opinion? *I've never tracked my car*

    • @throttle1400
      @throttle1400 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They don't talk about them because they don't sell them. Ohlins is accepted as a very good coilover. You'll be fine.

  • @marquisab007
    @marquisab007 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about truhart??

  • @TimRho
    @TimRho หลายเดือนก่อน

    Useless info is good info!
    Hks worth the money?

  • @fussyparts3566
    @fussyparts3566 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Static gang 🤟

  • @just.a.simplejoe
    @just.a.simplejoe หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy shit, nah man. I've had several coilovers from Silvers (direct) and been perfect - mind you I track all my cars. Never once an issue, if anything they worked better than my FA or car specific legacy brands. At only about 1400 - 1600$ considering swift upgrade and custom rates etc etc, Silvers has done me right. 😂
    Also Silvers in Europe is TUV certified in most applications, like miatas from sps in Germany. Also Silvers come from Taiwan, most my boxes still had Taiwanese stamps n shit.

  • @sp3gg
    @sp3gg หลายเดือนก่อน

    Coils on a Chevy Volt video perchance? 😸😸

  • @springfever2002
    @springfever2002 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is Bilstein always snubbed in every coilover video on TH-cam?
    They have been in the game for awhile, but every time I've asked about their coilovers from other enthusiasts, they automatically claim they are stock suspension and ride height (not true as they offer -1.5 ride height). Then proceed to say that I should buy the brands listed on this video for performance. Yet Bilstein has different teirs and price points for coilovers as well from $600- $3000. So i bought a set of B14's to see if they were trash.
    They are for the most part track coilovers for the street. I've had others drive my car and they are impressed with the coilovers as well. Yet the brand seems to be ignored. Why?

  • @ericcastillo207
    @ericcastillo207 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where the heck do you get tien for 400-500?

    • @AlexMartini.
      @AlexMartini. หลายเดือนก่อน

      At MartiniWorks babes

  • @julianrossi8460
    @julianrossi8460 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I swear if I hear 1 more person say "dampener" instead of "damper" I'm going to loose my mind! Dampener means it makes something less enjoyable, a damper is a device that regulates flow. BC Racing coil overs are dampeners because of their lack of engineered dampers.

  • @thatgoddamnpotato3367
    @thatgoddamnpotato3367 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You could probably do 30 minutes on wheels and tires.

  • @megacharzard10gameing79
    @megacharzard10gameing79 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ngl I be watching thses at the gym

  • @chase276
    @chase276 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Day 13 asking for a how to modify a 4g prelude

  • @lockmup8478
    @lockmup8478 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tires next please

  • @JCR631
    @JCR631 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ngl, the title make me click it lol

  • @crisantogarcia6646
    @crisantogarcia6646 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watch on 2Xs speed so it’s only 10mins 😅

  • @Alex-vz2jz
    @Alex-vz2jz หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Speaking of 20
    Day 20 How to Modify a Kei truck
    🚚💨

    • @Blakek.
      @Blakek. หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wrong channel maybe?... was this meant for mighty car mods

    • @Alex-vz2jz
      @Alex-vz2jz หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Blakek. Nope its for this channel.
      Alex started this channel along with his main channel shortly after leaving Fitment Industry.
      Longs story short, I wanted a So you want a Kei Truck video on FI but that never happend.
      Now that Alex created a new series How to Modify. That's it

  • @kc510
    @kc510 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ohlins?

  • @JonBonazza
    @JonBonazza 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    also just because a brand is shilled by yourubers doesnt necessarily mean its good. case in point, BC. is it good enough for the street? probably, but no one who knows what they are doing would ever run that junk on a track car

  • @throttle1400
    @throttle1400 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fortune Auto is probably the minimum coilover one should buy. Everything priced under that is cheaply assembled garbage that's not made with performance in mind. Yes they're stiff. Yes they will make you car low. But you'll be bouncing down the freeway rattling your teeth out. Even my Ohlins rode rough on crappy pavement. I'm sure the aluminum top hats did not help.

    • @mvp3100
      @mvp3100 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      This is Soo not true

  • @canadianpirateanders9951
    @canadianpirateanders9951 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Obviously don’t like maxspeedingrods

  • @souza5160
    @souza5160 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a project evo 9 and I feel every crack/bump on the road what’s the best daily coil over that will be comfy in, I was suggested ohlins. note I wanna feel like I’m in a Cadillac 😭