Info on standard NATO pickets, or ground anchors • Ground Anchor Stakes , It looks that have not changed since WW II. How to do a manual do a 5 to 1 pull - • Video 6 - Into the wor...
I love all these technical films from the 1940’s. My father was in REME and I like to think of him doing things like this. I never asked him when he was alive...I certainly wish I had.
Mine was too, in Egypt clearing up all the armour left behind. They saw 'things' left inside after the vehicles were destroyed by air or heavy guns. He never spoke of that side of his life, I guess it must have affected them deeply, but I know he was not in favour of war. What a pity the politicians and dictators who cause them, never actually fight on the field. God bless all our armed forces, who keep us safe in our homes.
Thanks. Block work has never & will never change. So the 5:1 lessons are still fresh. guess this clip/film would have taken twice as long if the crew wasn't double timing everywhere. Thanks again DOUGout
I love old training films or films explaining tactical and strategic operation, or showing new military equipment and technologies. They simply don't make em like this anymore.
Rare glimpses of a Scammell wearing her rear tracks and the soldier wearing his hand stained Dennyson smock showing the slow move to camo pattern uniforms. I actually have a Cook flak jacket from 1961 and have toyed with staining it, its surprising the garment is in pristine condition despite its age, last week I threw away a pair of 95 issue trousers as the fabric just wore out like tissue paper due to washing but my Cook jacket I lay in muck and mud in it and it washes up beautiful :)
And this shows why they made the M88 Recovery Vehicle. All that manual labor and time when a recovery vehicle can brute force armor recovery. Everything is heavy and put it in mud and its worse. All the tanks I saw recovered were in deep mud or sand
Excellent. Now if I come across a tank in the ditch here in Canada winter I know how to pull it out. Just need to get those parts & ropes into the trunk of the EEPmobile.
My Uncle was in the REME , he later opened his own Garage ..in time he aquired one of these Monsters for his breakdown , it was a total monster of a unit.
Step 1 Abandon tank; Step 2 order another tank; Step 3; Provide feedback to Tank purchasing group that too many tanks get stuck in gullies because the track plates break - on next contract stronger plates are used.
FASCINATING! I wondered how they would anchor that half track to take on such a monstrous pull! I would have liked more detail on how those Hold Fasts worked.
They are indeed tempered steel pins driven into the ground at an angle, the point toward load to be pulled. If in sand, their are wedge plow looking anchors embedded.
Simply a set of steel pickets, around 1m long, are driven through the openings, pinning the array to the ground. They conveniently omitted the driving and removal of the many pickets. Pulling pickets is the hardest part of a salvage operation.
My grandad, Craftsman E A Powell was in the REME at this time. He was great at his job but I can’t help thinking there would have been less running and more tea and cigarettes.
So the drive sprocket of the tank could not be used to haul the track into place for reconnection? That's how a tank crew would have done it. But in this whole video, I guess the tank crew were drinking tea. Tony the tankie 1978-84
I too was surprised that the tankies didn't put the track back on, I was even more surprised that the REME crew didn't hand the shovels to the tank crew that got the tank stuck and let them do the grunt work. They got the tank stuck, let them do the sweating.
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus : This is a military training film. Military chaps are like government chaps - they are instructed to only do what they are trained to do. The training trains them in accordance with what some desk-bound officer thinks it should do. In real life, tanks get stuck on active service - and as required everybody pitches in in case the enemy turns up, or while they are around to pick off tank crews and REME. This willingness to depart from training as may be required is what makes Western armies and navies better than Asian equivalents. It is interesting that Russian tanks have been stopped because Ukraine forces picked off just the lead tank in a column, or abandoned because they got bogged or had a minor breakdown. Or the Ukraines blew up a bridge across a small river. Wouldn't happen with Australian forces - they would improvise, cut down a few trees and make do, tow one tank with another, anything to get going again. Same with Isrealis against Arabs - Arabs abandoned tanks, Isrealis recovered them and put them to their own use.
I'm not a combat engineer, or a tanker, but I was a forward observer in both lav 25, and M1 Abrams. Not much has changed when it comes to this stuff tbh.
Great stuff. I'm not sure exactly how the holdfasts work, but it looks as if a big load (4/5 of the total) is taken by steel rods driven into the ground. I can imagine situations where this would not work, either because the ground is too soft, or where it is rocky.
But Rich, you are rich. 🤣 Also, I have a 70’s Military One Ton Landrover. Built on the same principles as these wartime behemoths but can be used as a daily drive. As long as you’ve got a set of spanner’s and don’t mind knuckles tattooed with grease. About 7000€ so not that expensive.
I was amused by this video. Because Australians who served in tanks in North Africa during WW2 first had British tanks, then when these all broke down they got American tanks. The called the American tanks "honeys" because they were a honey to crew. The British tanks kept throwing their tracks off, and the American tanks didn't. The American tanks couldn't match the firepower of German tanks, like the British tanks could, but that is no benefit if you are broken down and can't move.
The later version I had in the early 1970's had a 10 ltr Meadows Petrol engine , very slow running ,6 speed gear box . We normally moved off in 3 rd gear when not towing . Think it did about 5 miles to the gallon UK , the clutch was prone to slipping, the best method to alleviate that was to spray it from underneath with the pyrene fire extinguisher. A marvelous truck full of character and a joy to drive .
I find these videos fascinating. Take simple technology add a firm understanding of physics mix with a bit of work smart and the job is done. I always find it funny how much direction they want the crew to give the driver. You'd swear they think he can't see out his windows.
Hmmmm... I wonder which bright spark had the idea of training REME airborne units in tank recovery? Because perhaps I'm missing something, but airborne units in WW2 had no tanks because planes couldn't transport them. Moreover, planes couldn't transport the huge Scammel tractors needed in tank recovery either.... so let's make a training film about such an impossibly unrealistic situation. What can we say?.... Thank God for the Navy.... unless, of course, it was all part of a cunning plan (of the Baldrick variety) to let the training film fall into enemy hands so that they might believe that we actually could airlift such vehicles. Incidentally, my uncle joined REME at the beginning of WW2 as a 2nd Lieutenant and ended up as a full Colonel, (temporary Brigadier and reputed to be the youngest in the British Army) specialising in ... tank recovery, repair and refurbishment in battle zones. Unless my uncle was a genius, such rapid promotion can only have come about because REME was useless at it the beginning of the war, don't you think?
I love all these technical films from the 1940’s. My father was in REME and I like to think of him doing things like this. I never asked him when he was alive...I certainly wish I had.
What is REME?
Mine was too, in Egypt clearing up all the armour left behind. They saw 'things' left inside after the vehicles were destroyed by air or heavy guns. He never spoke of that side of his life, I guess it must have affected them deeply, but I know he was not in favour of war.
What a pity the politicians and dictators who cause them, never actually fight on the field.
God bless all our armed forces, who keep us safe in our homes.
@@paulloveless9180 Google it?
@@paulloveless9180 Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers I imagine.
Thanks.
Block work has never & will never change. So the 5:1 lessons are still fresh.
guess this clip/film would have taken twice as long if the crew wasn't
double timing everywhere.
Thanks again
DOUGout
I love old training films or films explaining tactical and strategic operation, or showing new military equipment and technologies.
They simply don't make em like this anymore.
Great to see these films. Shows how much physical work was needed too.
When scammell were king of the hill.
Now they use John Deere (Ukraine)
Rare glimpses of a Scammell wearing her rear tracks and the soldier wearing his hand stained Dennyson smock showing the slow move to camo pattern uniforms. I actually have a Cook flak jacket from 1961 and have toyed with staining it, its surprising the garment is in pristine condition despite its age, last week I threw away a pair of 95 issue trousers as the fabric just wore out like tissue paper due to washing but my Cook jacket I lay in muck and mud in it and it washes up beautiful :)
WOW this film would have taken MANY HOURS to film, awesome to watch, big thank you for posting it.
Boy that knowledge will come in handy, the next time my Mom jumps the track and ditches her captured German Panther.
Awesome vehicle, Scammell are in my top 10 best trucks of all time
Very nice 👍
Thank you for showing
How about a Soviet (Ukrainian) flying truck. As simple and flies as slowly as a truck drives:
th-cam.com/video/z7I3Illsuqg/w-d-xo.html
And this shows why they made the M88 Recovery Vehicle. All that manual labor and time when a recovery vehicle can brute force armor recovery. Everything is heavy and put it in mud and its worse. All the tanks I saw recovered were in deep mud or sand
Excellent. Now if I come across a tank in the ditch here in Canada winter I know how to pull it out. Just need to get those parts & ropes into the trunk of the EEPmobile.
My Uncle was in the REME , he later opened his own Garage ..in time he aquired one of these Monsters for his breakdown , it was a total monster of a unit.
I've never seen any workers run like this these boys mean business
Brilliant, great bit of Nostalgia.
Keep these coming please...almost makes me want to ditch a tank just to pull it out.
Good work boys.
American instructional film:
Step One: Abandon the tank
Step Two: Order another tank
Ah, no.
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Medals for all! Participation class, 😳😅🤭
Step 1 Abandon tank; Step 2 order another tank; Step 3; Provide feedback to Tank purchasing group that too many tanks get stuck in gullies because the track plates break - on next contract stronger plates are used.
Thank You ,good to know
FASCINATING! I wondered how they would anchor that half track to take on such a monstrous pull! I would have liked more detail on how those Hold Fasts worked.
It looked like very long steel pins driven into the ground.
That's the word I was going to use!
They are indeed tempered steel pins driven into the ground at an angle, the point toward load to be pulled. If in sand, their are wedge plow looking anchors embedded.
Simply a set of steel pickets, around 1m long, are driven through the openings, pinning the array to the ground. They conveniently omitted the driving and removal of the many pickets. Pulling pickets is the hardest part of a salvage operation.
@@geoffcrumblin9850surely they would just use the upper winch, to pull them out.
All good stuff
Clever arrangement
Thanks, neat to see.
The distinctive "mickey mouse" camouflage of black circular patches over (whatever shade of) green/khaki
My grandad, Craftsman E A Powell was in the REME at this time. He was great at his job but I can’t help thinking there would have been less running and more tea and cigarettes.
They sure do a lot of running !
So the drive sprocket of the tank could not be used to haul the track into place for reconnection?
That's how a tank crew would have done it. But in this whole video, I guess the tank crew were drinking tea.
Tony the tankie
1978-84
The tank crew were hiding inside while the recovery crew were dodging bullets from enemy snipers.
I too was surprised that the tankies didn't put the track back on, I was even more surprised that the REME crew didn't hand the shovels to the tank crew that got the tank stuck and let them do the grunt work. They got the tank stuck, let them do the sweating.
@@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus : This is a military training film. Military chaps are like government chaps - they are instructed to only do what they are trained to do. The training trains them in accordance with what some desk-bound officer thinks it should do. In real life, tanks get stuck on active service - and as required everybody pitches in in case the enemy turns up, or while they are around to pick off tank crews and REME. This willingness to depart from training as may be required is what makes Western armies and navies better than Asian equivalents.
It is interesting that Russian tanks have been stopped because Ukraine forces picked off just the lead tank in a column, or abandoned because they got bogged or had a minor breakdown. Or the Ukraines blew up a bridge across a small river. Wouldn't happen with Australian forces - they would improvise, cut down a few trees and make do, tow one tank with another, anything to get going again. Same with Isrealis against Arabs - Arabs abandoned tanks, Isrealis recovered them and put them to their own use.
Love the bit where its handed back to the crew....
I'm not a combat engineer, or a tanker, but I was a forward observer in both lav 25, and M1 Abrams. Not much has changed when it comes to this stuff tbh.
Spiffing good show, what?
Absolutely old boy! Mum's the word.
Jeez, you’d have to be well strong to do all of this!
Great stuff. I'm not sure exactly how the holdfasts work, but it looks as if a big load (4/5 of the total) is taken by steel rods driven into the ground. I can imagine situations where this would not work, either because the ground is too soft, or where it is rocky.
There are more pins driven into the ground, they only showed the first one.
If I were rich.....I'd be collecting old English vehicles. They're creative, interesting, and I love them...
But Rich, you are rich. 🤣
Also, I have a 70’s Military One Ton Landrover. Built on the same principles as these wartime behemoths but can be used as a daily drive. As long as you’ve got a set of spanner’s and don’t mind knuckles tattooed with grease. About 7000€ so not that expensive.
@@colinsavill3459 that would be worth a small fortune out here.
My wife was considering buying one of these for our recovery firm Scammell Tow services.. but things got a bit tight ....🙄
I was amused by this video. Because Australians who served in tanks in North Africa during WW2 first had British tanks, then when these all broke down they got American tanks. The called the American tanks "honeys" because they were a honey to crew. The British tanks kept throwing their tracks off, and the American tanks didn't.
The American tanks couldn't match the firepower of German tanks, like the British tanks could, but that is no benefit if you are broken down and can't move.
For all the criticism of the M1 carbine, it would beat the hell out of a sten!
Yeah if you like comparing apples and turnips it makes sense I suppose.
@@ThePaulv12 looks like they give stens to support troops here. Which is the exact reason for the M1 carbine.
Good video, imagine having all that tackle. I'd love to have one of those tuck/tractors l. And one know what they had for an engine?
The later version I had in the early 1970's had a 10 ltr Meadows Petrol engine , very slow running ,6 speed gear box . We normally moved off in 3 rd gear when not towing .
Think it did about 5 miles to the gallon UK , the clutch was prone to slipping, the best method to alleviate that was to spray it from underneath with the pyrene fire
extinguisher. A marvelous truck full of character and a joy to drive .
I would like some additional information on the fixtures put under the front wheels.
th-cam.com/video/MNJZ_myt9ng/w-d-xo.html
I find these videos fascinating. Take simple technology add a firm understanding of physics mix with a bit of work smart and the job is done.
I always find it funny how much direction they want the crew to give the driver. You'd swear they think he can't see out his windows.
How did they make the two ends meet? I noticed they cut that bit..But great old school recovery ..
Probably a Campagnolo Quick Link. Avoids using a riveter.
25:16 Seems odd to be waving your hands around in excitement.
Replace all Divets for good Landowner Relations .
I would do this , it would be an interesting experience.
Yank, yank, money in the bank.
each track weighs 3 tons, long
Works out as just over 3 tonnes.
@@ptonpc Long ton, 2,240 pounds.
Good work if you can get it. hahaha
My physics tells me it is a 4:1 but I could be wrong.
Isn't it the number of rope lines?
Four times diverted means five pulling lines.
You are wrong. There are 5 cables taking the load.
Hmmmm... I wonder which bright spark had the idea of training REME airborne units in tank recovery? Because perhaps I'm missing something, but airborne units in WW2 had no tanks because planes couldn't transport them. Moreover, planes couldn't transport the huge Scammel tractors needed in tank recovery either.... so let's make a training film about such an impossibly unrealistic situation. What can we say?.... Thank God for the Navy.... unless, of course, it was all part of a cunning plan (of the Baldrick variety) to let the training film fall into enemy hands so that they might believe that we actually could airlift such vehicles. Incidentally, my uncle joined REME at the beginning of WW2 as a 2nd Lieutenant and ended up as a full Colonel, (temporary Brigadier and reputed to be the youngest in the British Army) specialising in ... tank recovery, repair and refurbishment in battle zones. Unless my uncle was a genius, such rapid promotion can only have come about because REME was useless at it the beginning of the war, don't you think?
Five minutes later
Drive gets stuck in a next ditch 🤦♂️
A "Snatch block" means something totally different today. 🤣😂
"Snatch blocker" or "🐓" blocker.
War sucks.
Yeah. This practice was fun, not so much fun if you are being fired at.
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